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Hugh Pavletich

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… CHINA UPDATE …

Weekend Briefing … Interest Co NZ

https://www.interest.co.nz/news/100795/ny-fed-scrambles-protect-message-canada-retail-disappoints-china-faces-pressure

… extract …

… In China, banks sold a net NZ$28 bln of foreign exchange in June, the biggest one-month net sale in two years, as pressure from the trade war builds, in turn adding to pressure on the Chinese currency.

And yet another in a growing list of companies in the Middle Kingdom is having trouble meeting its debt obligations as they fall due.

China is now actively working to keep foreign companies from leaving the country, dangling special benefits so that the advantages of staying outweigh the heavy tariffs imposed by the Americans. More than 50 global companies have announced or are considering plans to move production out of China. And not just foreign companies. Chinese manufacturers as well are part of the planned exodus.

And to reinforce the point, it turns out that Vietnam’s port throughput now exceeds that for Hong Kong, a major China trade gateway. Vietnam is a major winner from the trade war.
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Something Just Broke In China As Repo Rate Soars To 1,000% Overnight | Zero Hedge

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-19/something-just-broke-china-repo-rate-soars-1000-overnight

China’s Top Carmaker Guides For First Annual Sales Drop In 14 Years | Zero Hedge

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-19/chinas-top-carmaker-guides-first-annual-sales-drop-14-years-0
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July 21, 2019 8:06am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Your stuff is often interesting, Hugh, but linking to webshites like zerohedge doesn’t build credibility.
  
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  July 21, 2019 9:06am
  - pdm
    
    Hugh will be thrilled – he now has one supporter here.
    
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    July 21, 2019 9:15am
  - sooty
    
    What’s this mutual pats on the bags and hugs and feelzs?
    
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    July 21, 2019 9:17am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I only found the first 1,000 interesting before realising it is always the same turd with different glitter.
    
    Downtick, move on.
    
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    July 21, 2019 9:18am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      I felt it important to give David Chaston of Interest Co NZ excellent concise narrative on China a good airing. It is superb.
      
      You are correct on the Zerohedge front Mike … where considerable culling is required.
      
      My sense is that China;s economy is likely in more serious trouble than we realize at this stage.
      
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      July 21, 2019 9:53am
  - wreck1080
    
    Zerohedge have been predicting global economic crashes for years now.
    
    Once in a blue moon, they get it right.
    
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    July 21, 2019 10:37am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Zerohedge is just a platform for many different informed views. Too often contrary views are dismissed in a fit of hubris. People don’t like the presentation of bad news and economists typically forecast after the events.
      Hugh is just picking up the flags that a serious downturn is lurking. I don’t see how we can have that and the former Twyford housing ambitions come to pass. If the international recession continues deepening NZ will have an interesting time ahead.
      
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      July 21, 2019 12:18pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        wreck is correct. zerohedge is garbage. Someone once wrote that Tyler Durden has accurately predicted 300 of the last 3 recessions.
        Ex-Kiwiblogger and proud Nazi EAD was a big fan.
        
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        July 21, 2019 12:42pm
    - gravedodger
      
      Stopped clock right twice a day like um ahh like.
      
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      July 21, 2019 4:30pm
      - Tall Man
        
        She will never be right.
        
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        July 21, 2019 6:23pm
Wired-one

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/114272849/winston-peters-has-been-a-malign-influence-on-nz-politics-its-time-simon-bridges-finished-him-off

National need to come out and say that a vote for Winston is a vote for Labour. I dont want us to even contemplate the idea that he may choose our side. Cut that wart off now.
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July 21, 2019 8:08am
- mikenmildagain
  
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  If a National leader said that, but NZ First hold the balance of power after the next election, how long would that promise stand?
  
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  July 21, 2019 9:08am
  - Monique Watson
    
    [deleted by mods. Don’t just abuse people Monique)
    
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    July 21, 2019 9:37am
    - Tall Man
      
      Mods… some people just need to be abused.
      
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      July 21, 2019 11:49am
      - Batman
        
        Then doing it in something more creative or thought out than a two word insult would get through.
        
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        July 21, 2019 11:53am
      - Martin Williams
        
        You spring to mind.
        
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        July 21, 2019 1:01pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Here goes.
      
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      July 21, 2019 1:26pm
      - David Farrar
        
        To remove any doubt, it is never acceptable to use the cunt word in reference to another person. Your comment will be edited or deleted if you do, and you may get a strike.
        
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        July 21, 2019 2:50pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        To DPF: Point taken. I will try and behave myself.
        
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        July 21, 2019 3:23pm
  - calendar girl
    
    It would stand.
    
    If for no other reason than that Peters himself would never lower himself to offer an olive branch to a party leader who had publicly criticised and rejected him.
    
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    July 21, 2019 9:48am
  - The Feed
    
    Irrelevant. Rule him out. On principle.
    
    That’s what National must realise. See Brexit. See Trump. See Australia.
    
    Make a stand.
    
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    July 21, 2019 9:50am
- Monique Watson
  
  He’s
  
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  July 21, 2019 9:10am
  - Colville
    
    [moderated]
    
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    July 21, 2019 10:15am
    - Colville
      
      I only said that
      
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      July 21, 2019 11:13am
- Chuck Bird
  
  National will make a decision next year. If it looks like NZF will get between 3 and 4% would it be better they get that than most of those votes go to the left instead?
  
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  July 21, 2019 9:16am
  - Monique Watson
    
    Yeah! That’s a dilemma I wake up every day. Whether to sell my soul to the devil. Wrongbirders @Chuck. Fuck winston and fuck him again over and over. And the voters will flock when we get that straight.
    
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    July 21, 2019 9:36am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Those votes won’t go anywhere if NZF don’t get an electorate seat, and that won’t happen.
    And National will get at least another 5% of the party vote if they rule out working with the drunken old prick.
    Cut him loose Simon.
    
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    July 21, 2019 10:19am
    - kowtow
      
      The Ardern regime is allowing Hand Shandy Jones to spend like a drunken sailor to buy a seat next time round.
      
      The media make a huge deal about a similar cosy arrangement the Gnats have with ACT , but when it comes to this and it does almost amount to a corrupt practise , they remain mute.
      
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      July 21, 2019 10:36am
      - dubya
        
        The media conveniently forget that Epsom likes ACT, and particularly liked Hide and Seymour. Probably less so Banks but he was better than expected until the Dotcom rubbish. Epsom is highly educated, wealthy and has a huge number of self employed or business owners. Many of them admire ACT because it rejects the sops to the left and populism which National often make in government.
        
        I recall Jim Anderton didn’t face the same level of scrutiny in his electorate.
        
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        July 21, 2019 12:07pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      I reluctantly agree. He’s not the Winston he once was and I suspect his fitness to serve. His announcement rejecting capitalism was an indicator that his judgment was unsound. He may have some form of mid dementia or alcoholic disorder.
      I expect he won’t go easily.
      
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      July 21, 2019 12:25pm
      - Tall Man
        
        He’s gone already Kev, it’s just that he doesn’t know it yet.
        
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        July 21, 2019 6:19pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    You going back to drink at the well Chuck?
    
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    July 21, 2019 11:31am
    - Tall Man
      
      “Stirrer”….
      
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      July 21, 2019 12:14pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Chuck, my gut feeling is that National would not “do the deal” that “what’s in it for wynston” wanted but rather than acknowledge that he was able to “con” a sweet deal from the idiot ardern.
    
    He would never have gained the deputy role and certainly tosser would not have gotten his $3 billion.
    
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    July 21, 2019 12:13pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Warts need to be burned, so they don’t come back
  
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  July 21, 2019 9:34am
- Monique Watson
  
  Choke the turkey.
  
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  July 21, 2019 9:38am
  - Nutta
    
    Shane’s on it.
    
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    July 21, 2019 11:29pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  One of the very few times I agree with something in Stuff. Rather in opposition than dealing with the Traitor.
  
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  July 21, 2019 9:53am
  - Martin Williams
    
    If you don’t like New Zealand, go back to South Africa.
    
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    July 21, 2019 1:02pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Where do you emanate from marty… who cares, just head on back.
      
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      July 21, 2019 6:16pm
- brett68
  
  Never happen, Bridges is desperate to gain power, his political career rests on him winning 2020.
  
  He’d lick Peters boots while wearing a dobby costume on the front lawn of parliament if that is what it would take to make him Prime Minister.
  
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  July 21, 2019 10:18am
  - cmm
    
    “He’d lick Peters boots while wearing a dobby costume ”
    
    Seems you’re mirroring what PriNZess did.
    
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    July 21, 2019 10:33am
    - dubya
      
      That was a Momo costume.
      
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      July 21, 2019 12:08pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Did? Does on a daily basis.
      
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      July 21, 2019 12:14pm
- cmm
  
  A vote for Winston is a vote for Labour.
  A vote for Winston is a vote for the Greens.
  A vote for Labour is a vote for Winston.
  A vote for Labour is a vote for the Greens.
  A vote for the Greens is a vote for Labour.
  A vote for the Greens is a vote for WInsoton.
  
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  July 21, 2019 10:31am
  - stephieboy
    
    cmm, so who will be National’s coalition partners?
    
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    July 21, 2019 11:29am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      If Liarbore fuck up the second half of their term as badly as they have the first half, they won’t need any.
      
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      July 21, 2019 11:52am
  - tf78
    
    A vote for National is a vote for New Zealand. Tick blue.
    
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    July 21, 2019 11:51am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      ☑️ ☑️
      
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      July 21, 2019 12:27pm
  - redeye
    
    And while Peters is banging on about how he prevented the CGT etc. National can remind the soft centre how the coalition got zilch achieved because of him.
    
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    July 21, 2019 12:59pm
- MCos
  
  Winston’s track record was well & truly established by the time results were declared after the last election.
  The Nats would still undoubtedly have formed a coalition with NZF if they could reach an agreement. At no point before the election did they rule out supping with the devil & the next time it’ll be just the same.
  I doubt if Labour are particularly enthusiastic about the current situation, but on balance they decided that governing with one arm tied behind their back is better than complete powerlessness – again.
  
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  July 21, 2019 11:59am
  - MCos
    
    Jaw dropping coalitions and partnerships happen all the time in politics in the lust for power.
    Hitler & Stalin.
    Hone & Dotcom.
    Winston & the Greens.
    May & the DUP
    Trump & all sorts of people who previously traded insults.
    The Māori Party and the Nats, to the detriment of both eventually.
    
    About the only one who’s survived, and with a grin on his face, is Winston, which is unusual in NZ because small parties that form part of coalition governments in NZ usually take a big hit.
    
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    July 21, 2019 1:27pm
    - Tall Man
      
      It’s not a “grin”, he just needs to fart.
      
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      July 21, 2019 5:43pm
  - Tall Man
    
    I think history will reveal that “what’s in it for wynston” was politely told to take his wee willie winkie and fuck off.
    
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    July 21, 2019 6:14pm
Happychappy

This is not helping fix poverty, homelessness or other names you need to call our welfare problems, all this is doing is encouraging more people to give up paying rent in the dwellings the were in and moving on to something the Government is giving for free. This is Labour everytime it obtains power create problem like they did with housing and just keep throwing money at it without any hope of fixing it and continue to blame the last Government the problem.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018704936/govt-spends-record-amount-on-emergency-housing
The next problem will be National nevr built enough Motels and Tourism is suffering from their neglect.
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July 21, 2019 8:16am
- septic skeptic
  
  Don’t worry about tourism, enough rentals are swapping over to Air Bnb.
  
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  July 21, 2019 8:54am
JibberJabber

Too much to expect the cops to do their jobs?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/113545350/deported-bikie-outlaws-are-threatening-to-inflame-gang-violence-in-small-town-nz

Nothing will change tho` when this is the attitude to criminality in this country,

She said the men were good people, driven by their addiction.

Personal responsibility and consequences have been expunged from the NZ psyche for decades aided and abetted by weak politicians and weaker judges.
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July 21, 2019 8:24am
- rightoverlabour
  
  Cops are focussing too much on “evil guns” than dealing with real criminals. The top brass are a disgrace, and I really feel for the poor buggers on the beat who are generally good guys. No wonder so many leave disillusioned.
  
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  July 21, 2019 9:55am
- kowtow
  
  Yep that article was rubbish on so many counts.
  Our racial gangs are so much nicer than ‘their’ racial gangs .
  And ” “Most gangs in New Zealand are actively recruiting, and social media is without doubt a key component to this.”
  Ok , given the huge damage these apes do to our society why ain’t Cinders having a conversation ’bout it …..
  
  And last but not least , where did this hackette study ?
  
  ‘He said although internationalisation of gangs wasn’t knew in New Zealand,’
  
  Knew for new , who knew ? FFS.
  
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  July 21, 2019 10:05am
- cmm
  
  Above the law.
  
  If they do get investigates, they normally get diversion of sorts.
  If they do end up in prison, well that’s just a taxpayer funded gang pad.
  
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  July 21, 2019 10:35am
G152

I see Goff and some-one who missed the koha are pissed that a large cosmetic shop opened in Auckland with all the razzamataz and used paper confetti.
Shock horror Spitting Phil is going crazy because its going to get into the waste water system and end up in the harbour.
Along with the sewerage that pollutes all the inner harbour beaches there will be paper confetti.
Be great if he got the sewer leakages solved instead
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July 21, 2019 8:40am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Why can’t both be done?
  
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  July 21, 2019 9:10am
  - Tall Man
    
    Bio degradable confetti.
    
    Please explain what the problem was?
    
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    July 21, 2019 12:17pm
- wreck1080
  
  I did think it was a bit funny — the maori fella was lamenting the hypocrisy of youth. Who fight against climate change and pollution, yet, as soon as the lipstick is on sale they don’t care.
  
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  July 21, 2019 10:39am
- Rob2
  
  I actually agree with Goff.
  Why should that be washed down the stormwater?
  
  That is not wanted in any harbour now in any stormwater system.
  
  To think otherwise indicates someone who is brain bloody dead.
  
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  July 21, 2019 11:16am
  - Tall Man
    
    But, biodegradable…. Please explain the problem.
    
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    July 21, 2019 12:17pm
    - dubya
      
      Newspaper is also biodegradable. However you wouldn’t hose it down the nearest sewer as a matter of course. Even if it bio degraded in a few days, it could easily block the stormwater system if there was enough of it. Should have been swept up and disposed of responsibly.
      
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      July 21, 2019 12:47pm
      - dubya
        
        Can’t work out why saying don’t wash paper waste down the stormwater drain is deserving of a down tick. If you know anything about silt control and drainage you’d realise it’s stupid. Take a look outside any building site and you’ll see silt mats fitted to adjacent drainage grates. It’s a consent requirement.
        
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        July 21, 2019 4:09pm
      - Tall Man
        
        But this was not newspaper.
        
        “”The confetti used was bio-degradable, water soluable and plant based.””
        
        “We worked closely with Auckland Council to meet all requirements, including waste management and health and safety plan, for its approved event permit to ensure the confetti was safe for the enviroment.”
        
        I left the spelling mistakes as a shining example of the “quality journalism” we have foisted upon us.
        
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        July 21, 2019 5:42pm
    - rangitoto
      
      Raw sewerage is also bio degradable but we don’t like to dump that in the harbour – unless you are Auckland city council.
      
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      July 21, 2019 1:10pm
Nukuleka

Interesting news on the University of Canterbury gender-neutral toilet front! The two gender-neutral toilet facilities in the expensive brand-spanking new facility have now been designated one as male (no urinals, of course!) and one a female. Golly gee. Meanwhile portaloos are being installed outside the building: one a set of gender-neutral loos to cater for all the transgenders that are flooding in to study at UC and the other a set of much-needed urinals for the lads. These new arrangements have all been announced alongside a plea for the lads to discontinue their habit of peeing in frustration on the grass outside the building.

And none of this extra cost and inconvenience and shenanigans would have been necessary had they followed the traditional pattern of a Ladies and a Gents. Pandering to extremes of ‘diversity’ has its costs and unintended consequences.
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July 21, 2019 8:47am
- Psycho Milt
  
  Is there a particular reason you’re interested in news about the University of Canterbury’s toilets?
  
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  July 21, 2019 10:22am
  - Jack5
    
    It’s an interesting example of the LGBT push for unisex toilets.
    
    The sanitary aspect (dribbling urine) may be a surprise to unisex-toilet advocates who have had limited or no experience of sharing facilities with males.
    
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    July 21, 2019 11:49am
    - SGA
      
      who have had limited or no experience of sharing facilities with males.
      
      Most people have in domestic situations, which probably contributes to why women seem less keen on the unisex approach than men. Don’t forget we leave the seat up too….
      
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      July 21, 2019 1:17pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Are trying to be more like steffy girl?
    
    If so, mission accomplished.
    
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    July 21, 2019 12:18pm
  - Nukuleka
    
    Yes, Psycho, because it is a good indicator of ideologically-driven decisions being made without any thought to the unintended consequences. It is also an example of how money is wasted in the pursuit of such ideologically blinkered decision-making because the cock-ups that result then have to be remedied.
    
    My two posts made have made the above points extremely clear. That you have chosen to question them is more an indicator of your dodgy character than mine, Psycho.
    
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    July 21, 2019 2:23pm
    - Tall Man
      
      psycho exhibits little real “character”.
      
      He’s just another troll with an affinity for the “lipstick”… still, it’s better than admiring the pig.
      
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      July 21, 2019 5:37pm
- kowtow
  
  The displays of neo Puritanism of modern universities is frightening.
  
  ‘Earlier this year the College announced that it had “shuttered” the bell off from view while it investigated its origins.
  
  The move came after Cambridge University announced that it will launch an inquiry to see how the 800-year-old institution benefited from the slave trade.
  
  Researchers have been commissioned to pore over the university’s archives to how much it gained from the “Atlantic slave trade and other forms of coerced labour during the colonial era”. ‘
  
  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/07/19/cambridge-college-admits-bell-had-display-decades-slave-plantation/
  
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  July 21, 2019 10:40am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    There goes Stormont Castle too as the money to pay for it came from a slave owners widow who returned from Jamaica( ?) to Ireland. This is in my wife’s family Hugeot family line history.
    
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    July 21, 2019 12:37pm
- 3-coil
  
  These hamfisted makeshift toilet arrangements are evidently wildly out of compliance with requirements of section “G1: PERSONAL HYGIENE” of the New Zealand Building Code. Do NZ Government owned buildings not have to comply with the standards set in NZBC?
  
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  July 21, 2019 11:02am
- The King
  
  UK politician who lobbied for gender neutral toilets is jailed for child sex offenses
  
  imagine my shock.
  
  https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/uk-politician-who-lobbied-for-gender-neutral-toilets-charged-with-child-sex-abuse
  
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  July 21, 2019 3:24pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Probably fell out because he wouldn’t share…..
    
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    July 21, 2019 5:35pm
Hugh Pavletich

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Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern lying about housing …

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern puts a stake in the ground ahead of the 2020 election | Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/114387965/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-puts-a-stake-in-the-ground-ahead-of-the-2020-election

… extract …

… Ardern insisted Labour was not walking away from its housing promise to the generation of Kiwis currently locked out of home ownership, and still believed the best way to deliver was to intervene in the market which had failed them.

Labour’s mistake was trying to resolve the problem with one policy, she said.
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[Mod: Reference to Twyford deleted as it is repetitive]
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July 21, 2019 8:49am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Mod –
  
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  July 21, 2019 9:21am
- srylands
  
  “… still believed the best way to deliver was to intervene in the market which had failed them.”
  
  Yes let’s double down. ?
  
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  July 21, 2019 9:31am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  … A gentle reminder of Labours comprehensive housing policies going in to the 2017 election …
  
  Housing – New Zealand Labour Party
  
  https://www.labour.org.nz/housing
  
  … reporting on the Speech from the Throne post 2017 election …
  
  Speech from the throne pledges that Auckland’s urban limit will be removed and density controls will be freed up in this term of Government | interest.co.nz
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/property/90780/speech-throne-pledges-aucklands-urban-limit-will-be-removed-and-density-controls-will
  
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  July 21, 2019 9:42am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Hugh, do you have cattleprod rights with the COL to actually enable them to do anything?
    Comprehensive housing policies are irrelevant without the executive ability to realise them. Passing a policy to a Dept to make it come to pass requires that the Dept’l Head has that superpower too. A rarity.
    Where the policy cuts across multiple Authorities and numerous existing law those have to be dealt with first. Resources need provision too: that means assured supply including labour. As others have effective monopolies already the measure of the vision asked is greatly enlarged.
    The housing vision is not impossible to achieve but not by the present amateur COL.
    
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    July 21, 2019 12:53pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Downtick for “engaging” with him….. 😉
      
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      July 21, 2019 5:34pm
  - Happychappy
    
    I hope they are going to give people buying there house more room for the kids to exercise than the houses they have built under the kiwibuild banner on the Pegasus site just out of ChristChurch.
    https://trademe.nz/property/new-homes/house-land/canterbury/waimakariri/pegasus/listing/2158028082
    I think there is a metre each side of the dwelling to your Neighbor’s boundary, no space back, front or side for Children to play.
    
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    July 21, 2019 1:40pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      THE ‘NEW ZEALAND DREAM’ IS STILL ALIVE … WENDELL COX … NEW GEOGRAPHY
      
      http://www.newgeography.com/content/006327-the-new-zealand-dream-still-alive
      
      … exract …
      
      … The Westpac NZ Housing Preferences Survey …
      
      … Among the respondents, nearly one-half (49 percent) considered a back yard “essential,” while another 42 percent rated the back yard as “nice to have.” Only nine percent considered a back yard to be “not important.” Among first home buyers, there was an even greater larger 55 percent considered a back yard as “essential.”
      
      A house with a yard is even more important that one close to work. Only 18 percent of respondents considered proximity to work to be “essential,” well below the 49 percent wanting a backyard. While nine percent of respondents considered a backyard to be “not important,” nearly four times as many said that proximity to work was “not important” (33 percent).
      
      House location also scored much lower in proximity to schools or child care, which was considered “essential” by 22 percent of respondents and parks/recreational facilities, “essential” to 21 percent. Only 11 percent considered living in social hubs (with “eateries and bars”) to be “essential. … read more via hyperlink above …
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      .
      Survey finds Kiwis’ backyard dream still alive and well – Westpac Bank Survey … Scoop NZ
      
      http://business.scoop.co.nz/2019/05/28/survey-finds-kiwis-backyard-dream-still-alive-and-well/
      
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      July 21, 2019 3:45pm
Happychappy

You can expect this type of story right up to the next Election as it suits the NZ Medias narritive.https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/114369999/jacinda-ardern-has-some-unfinished-business
I don’t know what will be worse over the next twelve months the lies told by Jacinda or those that the media keep Manufacturing.
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July 21, 2019 8:59am
- srylands
  
  It is worth reflecting that at the same point in the cycle of the last government, they had spent two years dealing with the GFC and the first Canterbury earthquake was about to hit. There was lots of unfinished business.
  
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  July 21, 2019 9:22am
- niggly
  
  Yet another Tracy Watkins PR puff-pieice on Jacinda, but wait there’s more, there are two Tracy Watkins PR puff-pieces on Jacinda today!
  
  Pity Stuff has turned off the Comments section on both PR puff-pieces – as it would have been nice to see what a cross-section of Kiwi’s are thinking in relation to the articles.
  
  Tune in again next Sunday (or even mid-week) for Tracy’s next PR puff-piece installment!
  
  (Interesting in the other puff-piece, Jacinda reveals she feels like an “imposter”. Must give Jacinda a bit of credit for admitting the truth I suppose)!
  
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  July 21, 2019 9:46am
- Swifty
  
  Unfinished?
  
  FFS – what have they even started?
  
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  July 21, 2019 3:00pm
Monique Watson

We just turned around an aircraft carrier in the Hormuz!Oh fuck off Hugh.
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July 21, 2019 9:06am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Who is ‘we’?
  
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  July 21, 2019 9:11am
  - Jack5
    
    Does he mean us, Milky?
    
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    July 21, 2019 11:37am
Tony Stuart

I hear the Guinness brewery is working an extra shift tonight in anticipation of Irishman Shane Lowry winning the Open Championship…
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July 21, 2019 9:16am
Yvette

Does Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters still have an legal case actively seeking the person or persons who “leaked” his so-called “personal details” regarding superannuation payments, or seeking damages for the “leaking” – with the “details” never being more defined than those statements that he himself voluntarily gave to the media?
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July 21, 2019 9:29am
Morrissey

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‘Gaza! Gaza! Don’t you cry. We will never let you die’.

That was the chant 11 years ago when we used to demonstrate in Kensington High Street adjoining Palace Green where the Israeli Embassy is located. The Met had helicopters overflying and squads of personnel in vans in the side streets ready for kettling the protesters, some of whom ended up unjustly with prison sentences. The police also had German Shepherd dogs in tow.

I have just read this about yesterday’s demonstrations on the Gaza ‘border’.

67th Friday of Demonstrations in Gaza: 122 Wounded, including 45 Children, Four Women, Three Paramedics, and Three Journalists

On 19 July 2019, the sixty-seventh Friday of the Great March of Return (GMR), Israeli forces continued to use live fire, amounting to excessive force, in policing unarmed protests. 122 people were injured, including 45 children, four women, three paramedics, and three journalists. Of the injured, 57 sustained wounds from live fire, while 13 were hit directly by tear gas canisters. According to medical sources, five of the injured, including three children, are in critical condition.’

The documentation is by the Al Mezan Center for Human Rights. http://www.mezan.org/en/post/23549

The details of the injuries on the link are horrific. All the Palestinians were able to do was to set fire to Israeli flags.

Thanks to Mary, at The Lifeboat News
http://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/msg/1563629137.html
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July 21, 2019 9:33am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Didn’t read it, just an automatic downtick because it’s Morrissey.
  
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  July 21, 2019 11:57am
  - The Feed
    
    Likewise. Phone is off the hook to all things left these days.
    
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    July 21, 2019 12:28pm
  - Swifty
    
    I’ve thought about this a bit recently.
    
    I am rapidly reaching the conclusion that the Palestinian leadership have few rivals for the most useless, corrupt, venal and treacherous bunch a people have had inflicted upon them in modern times.
    
    They not only don’t want peace for their people – they know well that they can continue to enrich themselves as long as the conflict continues.
    
    Google Mahmoud Abbas (and family) net worth and prepare to be disgusted.
    
    He, and many other Palestinian Authority officials, have refined the embezzlement of their own people’s money in to an art form.
    
    Of course, they had a great teacher in Arafat.
    
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    July 21, 2019 12:31pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Fair point you make about the less than stellar leadership of the Palestinians, Swifty. However, the American people have been inflicted with an even more useless, corrupt, venal and treacherous bunch of leaders than that. Does that give some totalitarian and merciless government the right to kill and maim American women, children, journalists, paramedics, crippled people, doctors, nurses, and human rights workers? Or is that treatment acceptable only for untermenchen?
      
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      July 21, 2019 2:49pm
      - Swifty
        
        Fuck off.
        
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        July 21, 2019 3:46pm
    - Tall Man
      
      “what’s in it for wynston” would give them a run for their money……..
      
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      July 21, 2019 5:26pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    ditto
    
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    July 21, 2019 1:30pm
  - Morrissey
    
    I don’t believe for a second that you didn’t read it, Cap’n, any more than you didn’t look at the pictures in those copies of Playboy and Penthouse mags you buy ostensibly for the interviews. The reason you pretend you “didn’t read it” is not because it’s this writer, i.e., moi, but because you support the murder of those 45 children, four women, three paramedics, and three journalists
    
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    July 21, 2019 1:57pm
    - Swifty
      
      You’re sick in the head.
      
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      July 21, 2019 2:49pm
    - Swifty
      
      Actually Mods, why isn’t this fucker banned from here?
      
      We’ve lost many good posters from here since the move to moderation post March 15 – but here we are with this guy openly claiming other posters support the murder of women and children, repeatedly linkwhoring to his own site and posting the same shit multiple times a day, a la Mr Pavlova.
      
      [Mod: Bannings are the sole prerogative of DPF]
      
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      July 21, 2019 3:45pm
      - Morrissey
        
        this guy openly claiming other posters support the murder of women and children
        
        I don’t “claim” it, I state it as a fact.
        
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        July 21, 2019 5:24pm
      - Swifty
        
        Then you’re more sick than I thought.
        
        Get help man.
        
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        July 21, 2019 7:37pm
- Fletch
  
  You do realize that Israel gave Gaza back in 2005? They evicted around 9000 of their own Israeli citizens. And what happened? The “palestinians” who moved in voted in the terrorist Hamas govt and started lobbing missiles into Israel. They also smashed the many glasshouses that Israel left there for them to help kick off their economy.
  
  So yeh – a great encouragement to Israel to move toward a two-state solution – NOT.
  
  I haven’t read about what is happening there now, but I can GUARANTEE you that Israel are not killing people indiscriminately and without provocation.
  
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  July 21, 2019 1:13pm
  - Morrissey
    
    You do realize that Israel gave Gaza back in 2005?
    
    It “gave Gaza back” in the same way the Germans gave the Warsaw Ghetto back to the Jews of Poland. The fact that you are a blithering, bloody-minded ignoramus means that won’t impress you one bit, but thoughtful and serious people do realize it.
    
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    July 21, 2019 2:52pm
    - Fletch
      
      Um, it wasn’t a “ghetto” when 9000 Israeli people were living there; in fact, who didn’t want to move.
      
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      July 21, 2019 4:19pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Nope, you don’t got it.
        
        Ever thought of reading a book on the subject?
        
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        July 21, 2019 5:21pm
- Twinkletoes
  
  When will Hamas stop bussing these poor women and children to demonstrate at the border knowing they could be injured or killed? But then, our Govt. don’t actually think they are a terror group – I would be terrified of them if I lived in Gaza because of what they would do to my family and extended family if I refused to join the demonstrations.
  
  I think this is one of the major differences between our cultures – we do not use our children as frontline fodder. I still remember the Iranians giving their boys a key to Heaven and sending them into the minefields during their war with Iraq.
  
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  July 21, 2019 2:01pm
- The King
  
  Funny how the commenters here have no problem with jews blowing up muslims yet seem upset when an aussie does it go figure.
  
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  July 21, 2019 2:55pm
  - The King
    
    Ah 5 downboats must be over the target catching flak. The hypocrisy is duly noted.
    
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    July 21, 2019 6:48pm
Classic Liberal

Antisemitic murder in France, excused by judge because the murderer was high on cannabis!

France used to be a civilised country.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/france-jewish-woman-antisemitic-attack-cannabis-high-sarah-halimi-kobili-traore-paris-a9006631.html
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July 21, 2019 9:55am
- kowtow
  
  “Some people did some things”
  
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  July 21, 2019 11:57am
- Morrissey
  
  JIM MORA: All right, it’s Susan Baldacci with what the world’s talking about. What have you got for us today, Susan?
  SUSAN BALDACCI: First up is this story of a British school which has banned children playing cops and robbers.
  JIM MORA: Did you play with toy guns when you were a boy?
  DAVID SLACK: I think I had a toy gun and a holster but I don’t think I enjoyed it very much.
  
  The Panel, Radio NZ National, Friday 8 March 2013
  
  https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2019/07/absurd-political-correctness-watch-no-1.html
  
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  July 21, 2019 2:21pm
Tauhei Notts

I was pleased to see the New Zealand netball team do so well. It was neat that Israel’s missus was so good.
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July 21, 2019 9:59am
Happychappy

I see the Prime Minister had her say on the young Girl who Ann Tolley reduced to tears in the young MP’s debate in Parliament last week. I am not saying the Speaker was right or wrong but would Question Jacinda’s motive after her dismal failure at the Young Labour Summer Camp episode and the hidden facts about the sexual assaults that took place. This case still hasn’t seen the Supreme Court yet and has had name suppression , but hopefully without any more Political interference that happened when the offence occurred the young people that were assaulted will get long overdue justice.
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July 21, 2019 10:10am
- Batman
  
  District Court 🙂
  
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  July 21, 2019 11:40am
  - Happychappy
    
    My apology Batman you could of edit it for me as it was in moderation for nearly two hours and Its hard enough in the few minutes we do get to change anything.
    
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    July 21, 2019 12:09pm
  - calendar girl
    
    Scheduled to commence in the Auckland District Court on 2 September, 2019. Why is it taking nearly 18 months for this case to be brought for trial in a Court of Law ?
    
    “Justice delayed is justice denied”
    
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    July 21, 2019 2:21pm
    - namron
      
      I can only guess that it is hoped that we all will forget about this case.
      [If I lived in Auckland I would be lining up to attend the case on 2 SEPT at the AUCK DISTRICT COURT!!]
      The obvious procrastination [perhaps the result of some devious “special arrangement,”] would appear to indicate they hope that the case will be forgotten and will quietly happen unnoticed.
      Of course this approach tends to suggest BIG concern from Labour about the result of the court case.
      With 43 days before the Court Case – the result could add to the ongoing dissatisfaction with Labour, and about 12 months before the election in 2020.
      
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      July 21, 2019 5:33pm
- freethinker
  
  Auckland district court 2/9 all will be revealed, hopefully.
  
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  July 21, 2019 5:26pm
rightoverlabour

I was having thoughts about next year’s election. We need to emasculate the “Jacinda Affect”. Suppose 4 months out from the election Nikki Kaye gets the nod. My reasons are such: Can’t accuse her of bullying a lady. She has no Judith “baggage”. She has beaten Jacinda twice in the usually red seat of Auckland central. She speaks well, is intelligent, works hard, and cares strongly about the issues that face her electorate. Thoughts?
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July 21, 2019 10:12am
- Swifty
  
  The left and their media lapdogs would put Kaye through hell.
  
  They reserve a special sort of hate for people they believe should be lefties but are not i.e. any women, non-whites, gays, blue collar etc who don’t vote left.
  
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  July 21, 2019 11:54am
- Tall Man
  
  Such a move would sink the ship in my opinion.
  
  National need to “campaign” on unity and policy.
  
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  July 21, 2019 12:22pm
  - Gravelroad
    
    Yep.
    National shouldn’t need to resort to copycat gimmickry to win an election with a figurehead “leader”.
    I’d be happy with someone who looks reasonable, can string a few sentences together without a lot of
    “Ums and ahs” and can relate with some sense of genuine interest to a wide cross section of voters.
    But mostly, I want to see a party with policy points of difference, a plan and a vision that actually stands for their core values.
    At the moment, National is too keen to jump on the latest emotion-fuelled bandwagon with little thought of the unintended consequences eg- the rushed and idiotic gun law “reforms”.
    
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    July 21, 2019 2:02pm
    - The Feed
      
      Yes, learn from Trump. And Brexit.
      
      Make a clear stand on something against “wokeism as usual”. Trump owns the media because they respond in utterly predictable, Pavlovian fashion.
      
      They amplify his talking points loud and clear, thinking people will find it “oh so awful”, forgetting of course that Trump isn’t talking to media luvvies and socialists. He’s talking over them to Everyman. To the silent majority.
      
      Don’t try and appease the media class. Do your best to irritate them at every turn. Let them amplify your clear position.
      
      But you must have a clear position.
      
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      July 21, 2019 7:12pm
Jack5

?Gas Unlimited. The gas fittings company whose owner-boss did work at the Christchurch house the day before it exploded.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/114388788/gas-contractor-who-worked-on-exploding-house-very-stressed
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July 21, 2019 10:53am
- tf78
  
  I’ve been thinking about that explosion – maybe the pilot light wasn’t restarted.
  
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  July 21, 2019 12:01pm
- slightlyrighty
  
  There are a number of reasons why this explosion could have happened. The fact that there was a service agent present the day before may well be a contributing factor, but it could well be a faulty product in the first place, which is why you might call a gas fitter.
  
  Admittedly it’s not a good look, but leaping to conclusions won’t be helpful.
  
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  July 21, 2019 12:51pm
Happychappy

Labour and the Coalition are big on talking up problems concerning Mental Health but Quick to remove solutions that National put in place in 2014 when other were calling for Nurses to monitor some Police Cells.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/07/nurses-axed-from-police-station-national-claims.html
It sounds and looks like Jacinda’s Policies are the only ones that will work.
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July 21, 2019 10:58am
Notsofast

After listening to the RNZ report on uplifting babies this morning, it seems that this happens mainly because the male near the mother might harm the mother or child. It was asked if there were safe facilities available for mother and baby as an alternative, the answer of course no.
Would this solve the problem?
Answer yes.
So mother Jacinda has done zip nada to organise this. The unspeakable grief these women experience could be reversed immediately with safe housing.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/insight/audio/2018704174/babies-in-oranga-tamariki-care-safe-or-seized
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July 21, 2019 11:14am
- jcuk
  
  I doubt if this simple solution would solve the pronlem and I would suggest that you read this Canadian opinion piece where they have similar problems,
  https://www.nzcpr.com/new-zealands-maori-child-welfare-problem/
  Male female attraction is such that the men causing the problems would simply follow the women and would be welcomed too I expect.
  
  My first thought was that it was a great idea but learning more about the problem I am no longer so sure
  I listened to the RNZ programme but thought it did little more than describe the situation with few solutions.
  
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  July 21, 2019 12:37pm
- Piniwi
  
  Perhaps this is why they got $12 million to do up the pa’s as the tribes finally do something for their people? Maybe not since their cultural status of females would not be appropriate.
  
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  July 21, 2019 1:51pm
Southern Raider

A good read on how NZ is trying to emulate California in madness

– no gas for new houses and new businesses
– gas is half the cost of electricity for heating and twice as efficient
– every new house must install solar panels

Most electricity comes from neighbouring states who use coal to generate power!!

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/daniel-turner-berkeley-natural-gas-ban-new-homes-businesses

Big difference is in Cali you can just drive 100 miles to cross into another state. Big harder in NZ to escape the madness
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July 21, 2019 11:29am
- jcuk
  
  The price differential is artificial and should not be permitted to affect things, Gas is a good thing to have for when weather etc causes power cuts and I have that but not as a replacement.
  For those who can I suggest my policy of personal heating rather than trying to warm the whole home or even a room. Electric blankets protected by at least two coverings used to warm but not continuosly.
  
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  July 21, 2019 12:51pm
- dubya
  
  Given both the large size and poor quality of New Zealand homes by world standards, retrofitted gas fired central heating is the most sensible way to raise the average temperature of them in winter. My observation is that Kiwis would rather spend $20k on a flash deck than a good boiler and radiator system, though. A heat pump system just doesn’t cut it in many parts of NZ, particularly in older homes which are difficult to effectively insulate.
  
  Expect the average winter temperature inside NZ homes to now stagnate or even decrease as fewer people install such systems thanks to the uncertainty created by the oil and gas captain’s call.
  
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  July 21, 2019 12:57pm
- MCos
  
  I bet those people in Ch’ch wish they’d had a heat pump
  
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  July 21, 2019 1:56pm
  - mark15
    
    Too soon!
    
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    July 21, 2019 4:42pm
Jack5

Pro-Beijing, pro-police rally in Hong Kong ahead of expected new pro-democracy protests that are expected today:

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-hongkong-extradition/thousands-in-pro-police-rally-as-hong-kong-braces-for-another-mass-protest-idUKKCN1UF08P
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July 21, 2019 11:44am
- kowtow
  
  There’s an awful lot happening there that our shit media aren’t prepared to cover , not that they don’t have the space , that’s taken up with anti Trump garbage and other tripe.
  
  A bomb factory has been found , two police stations have been petrol bombed ( almost unprecidented actions) and some of the violence instigators have scoped a bolt hole in Taiwan , prior to the attack on Legco.
  
  There’ll be trouble there again after tonights’ march .
  
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  July 21, 2019 12:11pm
- Jack5
  
  Taiwan is considering giving asylum to the Hong Kong democracy protesters:
  
  https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/07/20/asia-pacific/taiwan-may-give-hong-kong-protesters-asylum/
  
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  July 21, 2019 2:20pm
Swifty

What is there to admired in this story?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/114096809/the-dash-the-incredible-story-of-gus-nketias-escape-to-new-zealand

They ran out on their family, their team and their country by using the privilege of being selected to represent their country in the Commonwealth Games to thwart their visa conditions.

Oh, and then they buggered off to Aussie.
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July 21, 2019 12:12pm
- kowtow
  
  What do the hosts get out of C’wealth Games . There’s always stories of illegal overstaying by team members , but these don’t get highlighted by the msm.
  
  What’s to be admired in that story ?
  The collapse in the concept of the rule of law in the face of the diversity dividend.
  
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  July 21, 2019 12:46pm
stephieboy

I want to share this marvellous piece by a relatively unknown English composer Gerald Finzi (14 July 1901 – 27 September 1956) Also so evocative of the English Countryside. ( of special appeal to me ) Also elegiac in mood and atmosphere. Something that needs to be listened to alone or with” kindred spirits.”

Gerald Finzi – Introit for Solo Violin & Small Orchestra – Op. 6 (Molto Sereno)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pxw3ysDw5o
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July 21, 2019 12:13pm
Swifty

David Slack offers up the oh so predictable and Pavlovian response:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/donald-trumps-america/114273520/so-does-donald-trump-think-i-should-go-back-to-my-country-where-even-is-that

Yawn.

Also, he needs reminding that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
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July 21, 2019 12:19pm
- Scott
  
  You do wonder if the anti Trump crowd posing as journalists will ever get sick of their own rhetoric? Probably not because Trump provides the thing the left must have – an enemy, simply put, someone to hate.
  
  But Slack who is not a serious writer should think about the deep waters he is swimming in. Does every country have to invite in foreigners who may have absolutely no intention of assimilating? Do we have to give up our ways and customs to placate every new person who wants to live here?
  
  And is it racist to criticise Omar and wish her to go back to Somalia if she hates America? I don’t think it is.
  
  I actually think the same about James Cameron who now lives in the Wairarapa amd wants us all to eliminate meat from our diet and get rid of our cows. Is it racist for me to say to an American billionaire – love it or leave it?
  I don’t think so.
  
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  July 21, 2019 1:06pm
  - Morrissey
    
    And is it racist to criticise Omar and wish her to go back to Somalia
    
    Yes it is, and you know perfectly well it is.
    
    ….if she hates America?
    
    She doesn’t.
    
    I don’t think it is.
    
    It is.
    
    She loves America, by the way, she just doesn’t like American criminals, liars and psychopaths. Here she is outwitting and humiliating one a few months ago….
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV9BEpgbr4w
    
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    July 21, 2019 3:18pm
    - Fletch
      
      She hates America, and Trump is right. If she dislikes it so much, why not get the heck out? She compared ICE agents to Nazi concentration camp guards, refused to condemn an Antifa terrorist attack on an ICE facility, infamously said that the September 11, 2001, terrorist attack by al-Qaeda was merely “some people did something.” She also support terrorists such as Gehad Khaled and her husband. She has also lobbied for the release of The Muslim Brotherhood Leader, Hoda Abdelmonem, and other ISIS members.
      
      Most recently, she claimed the US is responsible for the situation in Venezuela. Ilhan Omar’s response to Venezuela’s murderous dictator? 1) Refuse to support global coalition backing Guaido 2) Back the socialist regime 3) Demonize US aid.
      
      She says she is “unapologetically Muslim,” but what she is is anti-American. Everything she says and does shows it. And let’s not get started on her antisemitism (as are the other women in her “squad”).
      
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      July 21, 2019 4:55pm
      - Morrissey
        
        You’re raving.
        
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        July 21, 2019 5:19pm
    - The King
      
      Yo Morrisey is it racist to point out Ilhan Omars district has the highest terrorist recruitment for all of the USA?
      
      https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/fbi-statistics-ilhan-omars-district-terror-recruitment-capital-us/
      
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      July 21, 2019 6:45pm
      - Morrissey
        
        No, Minnesota is not even in the top five. Top five terrorist recruitment states are Georgia, South Carolina, Idaho, Alaska, and Texas.
        
        https://taskandpurpose.com/states-highest-lowest-enlistment-rates
        
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        July 21, 2019 8:21pm
- SGA
  
  Also, he needs reminding that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
  
  Actually, the full Wilde quote is “Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but the highest form of intelligence.”
  (Just a trivia FYI, not taking a position on an article I haven’t read)
  
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  July 21, 2019 1:27pm
- Jules99
  
  He’s a ‘celebrity’ who is paid to read words. No thinking required.
  
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  July 21, 2019 2:02pm
- Inandout
  
  Swifty, he is Slack by name and slack by nature. Most people who read his article will dispose of it like Delhi Belly.
  
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  July 21, 2019 2:23pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Good point. See: InandOut
    
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    July 21, 2019 6:52pm
- Morrissey
  
  David Slack? Oh, God, no.
  
  JIM MORA: All right, it’s Susan Baldacci with what the world’s talking about. What have you got for us today, Susan?
  SUSAN BALDACCI: First up is this story of a British school which has banned children playing cops and robbers.
  JIM MORA: Did you play with toy guns when you were a boy?
  DAVID SLACK: I think I had a toy gun and a holster but I don’t think I enjoyed it very much.
  
  The Panel, Radio NZ National, Friday 8 March 2013
  
  https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2019/07/absurd-political-correctness-watch-no-1.html
  
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  July 21, 2019 2:26pm
  - Swifty
    
    Reported for repeat posting of the same material..
    
    2.21pm and 2.26pm.
    
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    July 21, 2019 3:06pm
- Jack5
  
  David seems to have been suckered in for one of those genealogy DNA kit tests. He notes: “I also have some Scandinavian lineage.”
  
  So many people want to be descended from Vikings.
  
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  July 21, 2019 2:29pm
  - Jack5
    
    The other ancestors people like to hear about include North American Indians and Jews.
    
    So the DNA kits unearth things like 3 per cent Ashkenazi Jewish and 2 per cent North American native.
    
    A smidgen, like the proportion that can get you into Ngai Tahu.
    
    Re Morrissey’s transcript of David on the Red Radio Panel: perhaps David confused the cowboy pistol draw with a cannabis draw.
    
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    July 21, 2019 2:52pm
RW Capitalist

https://www.national.org.nz/a_do_as_we_say_not_as_we_do_government
A good approach, philosophy.
Leaving it to personal choice and requirement.
But leading (yes LEADING) by example.
One thing of major concern… the number of vehicles WE own via the public service.
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July 21, 2019 1:05pm
Paulus

It appears that the last week has been probably one of our Princesses worse days of her reign.
Is she really losing it – looks like it.
Her trip to Melbourne, the home of the Australian Labor movement, was full of disasters.
Firstly her speech about Good Governance to the selected 2,000 Labor Party members and her sycophants was a closed meeting. It was that which she was to have given when she thought that Labor would win the election, which middle Australia thwarted.
She failed then to give any media briefing and question time to the Australian media, but did to the New Zealand contingent which she took with her.
See today what the Australian media thought of her.
She then openly insulted Australia by calling our relationship toxic by calling out the fact that New Zealand Criminals are being deported from Australia. This is very heavily supported by both country’s people.
Lastly her private plane broke down again.
She and her inner staff caught an Air NZ plane as she had to get back to feed baby.
How many passengers were bumped to get her etc on the first flight.
When her sycophantic supporters asked how were they going to get home and who was going to pay they were given two fingers and told to get on their bikes. That went down like a brick.
Not a good week – looks as though she is losing it big time – not surprising.
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July 21, 2019 1:22pm
- tf78
  
  I saw a photo of Scott and Jenny, Jacinda and Clarke meeting around a table, just the four of them – Clarke was sitting there looking at his cellphone. I just can’t believe the ignorance of the man, let alone how rude it is.
  
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  July 21, 2019 3:21pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I can.
    
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    July 21, 2019 5:21pm
  - Martin Williams
    
    He was googling the word ‘compassion’.
    
    Morrison had never heard of it.
    
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    July 21, 2019 6:04pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      It’s definitely in South African versions of the English Dictionary. Do remember, that Governor George Grey was also the Governor of South Africa. That’s why New Zealanders and South Africans are so similar in so many areas…..
      
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      July 21, 2019 6:27pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        George Grey was governor of Cape Colony for seven years between his two terms as governor of New Zealand. Perhaps it was his experience in South Africa that persuaded him that military conquest was the best policy for New Zealand…
        
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        July 21, 2019 8:35pm
    - Tall Man
      
      So mods, this numbnuts can poke the borax at the Australian PM but here we cannot take the piss out of gayford or ardern?
      
      Was it the Tinder reference or the horse one you didn’t like?
      
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      July 21, 2019 8:53pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Is there a bigger fuckwit on this site than Martin Williams?
      Oh I forgot, he’s in a tie with Morrissey.
      
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      July 21, 2019 9:27pm
      - Martin Williams
        
        You’re right up there.
        
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        July 21, 2019 10:50pm
Jack5

The Philippines and Vietnam are heightening their coastal defences because of the South China Sea stand-off with China:

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3019409/chinas-neighbours-bolster-their-coastguards-stand-stokes
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July 21, 2019 2:26pm
- Tall Man
  
  Oops….
  
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  July 21, 2019 3:54pm
Tall Man

More “woke” rubbish.

https://www.yudu.co.nz/news/end-of-the-line-for-brilliant-jerks/46616/?ref=nzhhome
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July 21, 2019 3:53pm
- Inandout
  
  Another company to dodge?
  
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  July 21, 2019 5:10pm
  - Tall Man
    
    You betcha.
    
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    July 21, 2019 6:29pm
tranquil

An idea to **get the message out there** about how LOUSY the Labour Party’s policies are (and how abysmal a PM Jacinda is…..).

Get a truck with a video screen as shown in this Youtube video –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiIIqY9DNIU

This is a **brilliantly-direct** approach that really puts the moronicness of the government into people’s faces!
It’s the next best thing to making the *sky* a giant video-screen!
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July 21, 2019 7:24pm
Morrissey

ILHAN IS VERY, VERY POPULAR WITH NORMAL DECENT PEOPLE FROM THE HEARTLAND

Trump is afraid of her, and his mouth-breathing “base” thinks it hates her, but they’re just stupid, ignorant people without a clue. People that know her—-her constituents—-just love her.

With Omar under attack, supporters within her district, which she won with a stunning 78% of the vote in 2018, are rallying behind her.

“What’s happening right now is so horrifying that standing with her in solidarity is so important,” said Rita Farmer, a fifth-district resident from north-east Minneapolis. “Not only to send a message to her that we support her, but to the rest of the world that we stand by her.

“That support isn’t going away. If anything, these recent attacks on her just strengthen it.”

Omar grew up in Minneapolis, which has a large Somalian and East African community. Her district includes Little Mogadishu, the base of the Somali community in Minneapolis, and previously elected Keith Ellison, the first Muslim to serve in Congress who is now state attorney general.

To Farmer, “appalling” attacks from Trump need to be called out. But the fact that Omar has continued to focus on her agenda, including support for Medicare for all, which she touted in a town hall on Thursday evening in Minneapolis, has made Farmer “that much prouder to stand by her”.

“People aren’t just standing by her for symbolic reasons,” Farmer said. “She’s got the policy proposals. She’s got the bold ideas to back it up. That’s what really excites people and keeps them coming back.”

Erica Mauter was heartened that the community rallied round. But the president’s attacks chilled her, raising concerns about the congresswoman’s safety – and her own.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/21/ilhan-omar-minnesota-trump-the-squad-minneapolis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnGjfMH4p08
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July 21, 2019 8:28pm
Monique Watson

Under the headline: oh do fuck off:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/114387965/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-puts-a-stake-in-the-ground-ahead-of-the-2020-election
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July 21, 2019 9:21pm
Monique Watson

Has anyone got a joke?
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July 21, 2019 9:28pm
Monique Watson

“First time fucking Mum. Maybe the voice of anxiety is telling you something Mum. Like stay the fuck away from climate change if we don’t want our boys offing ourselves in numbers.
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