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mikenmildagain

Happy Armistice Day!
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November 11, 2019 8:01am
- SGA
  
  Sure is. Liverpool 3 Man City 1 🙂
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:12am
  - pdm
    
    Look out for Biscuit – he will be fizzing this morning.
    
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    November 11, 2019 9:37am
- krazykiwi
  
  Uptick from me. This is a genuinely important day.
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:14am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month.
    
    Stand silent for a minute or even two at 11.00 this morning in solidarity and to remember those who gave so much.
    
    So much so that we can be here to comment on this blog amongst the 1,111’s of other everyday things that we do that are just white noise until the alternative is thought about.
    
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    November 11, 2019 8:40am
    - Michael
      
      Paulus
      Did you have your 1 min of silent contemplation?
      
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      November 11, 2019 11:07am
      - Michael
        
        12.07 now
        
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        November 11, 2019 12:11pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Yes.
        
        It’s called values. Thank you for asking
        
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        November 11, 2019 1:35pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Billy Ray Cyrus’ song lyrics, ‘All gave some, some gave all.’
      Lest we forget.
      
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      November 11, 2019 12:12pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  They had an Armistice Day function at Karapiro on Saturday. The advertising blurb mentioned that they would also acknowledge the Boar War. I cannot recall any New Zealand forces involved in The Bay of Pigs fiasco.
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:56am
  - Steve James
    
    Is that supposed to be funny?
    
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    November 11, 2019 9:44am
    - Tauhei Notts
      
      As one of few New Zealanders who has visited the monument at Mafeking and seen the little museum at Colenso, near Spion Kop; yes, it was a pathetic attempt at humour, but more a piss take on the spelling ability of journalists.
      
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      November 11, 2019 10:42am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    It was the Boer War and my Grandad was there. Was also in WW1 and my Dad was in WW2. So between them a total of 11 years service.
    Im very proud of both of them. I have their photos and medals framed and a copy of their service records to hand on to my children who are also very proud of them.
    
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    November 11, 2019 9:59am
    - stephieboy
      
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      lastmandstanding, they would be rolling in their graves for siring such a wimp!
      
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      November 11, 2019 10:31am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Sicko.
        
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        November 11, 2019 11:23am
      - Luke Piewalker
        
        Stephieboy you are truly a revolting person
        
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        November 11, 2019 11:27am
    - Nookin
      
      Given the subject of the thread and the sentiments expressed by lastmanstanding, it is difficult to understand the mentality that prompted such a comment, Stephieboy. Was it really necessary to descend to such gratuitous and out-of-place abuse?
      
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      November 11, 2019 12:55pm
      - igm
        
        Bet the vile bastard is progeny of conscientious objectors . . . he would be a typical left-wing wimp very much like his hero Goff.
        
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        November 11, 2019 2:47pm
      - Michael
        
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        DPF and his mods clearly enjoy it or allowing it.
        Stephie does it week after week and he’s still here!
        
        [Some comments speak for themselves without needing moderation for breaking a specific rule – Mod]
        
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        November 11, 2019 3:50pm
    - curry4me
      
      A great, great uncle served in the Boer War.
      
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      November 11, 2019 9:22pm
- Fletch
  
  Does anyone remember season 2 of Sapphire and Steel with the young soldier and the 11,11,11,11?
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9Dws0VivK0
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:08am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    I loved that show.
    
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    November 11, 2019 1:07pm
- pb
  
  This lil 2minute vid from British Army quite powerful:
  
  https://youtu.be/ahGRNKi8-18
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:28am
- Brian McDonald
  
  I’m sure that my great Uncle George McMahon who came home with the 2nd highest military award (probably would have been the VC if he wasn’t of Irish blood as he just about spent more time in the German trenches than they did themselves) and my great Uncle Sonny Moore buried in Europe just before the war finished would have marvelled that someone objected to War being over with a down tick.
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:33am
  - Jack5
    
    Plenty of VC’s awarded to Irish soldiers, Brian, including two awards during the New Zealand land wars.
    
    The Irish Republic was neutral in World War 2, but four of its citizens were awarded the Victoria Cross.
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irish_Victoria_Cross_recipients
    
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    November 11, 2019 5:40pm
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  Remember the day, but I think wishing people a ‘happy’ Armistice Day somewhat misses the point.
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:44am
krazykiwi

Spaniards have just gone to the polls again for the second time this year.

The election was triggered by the failure of Pedro Sánchez, caretaker prime minister, to win parliament’s backing to form a government. Opinion polls suggest his Socialists will retain first place, although on a lower share of vote than the 29 per cent they scored in the last election.

In all likelihood this election will result in continued problems forming a government. Whatever the problem, fewer socialists as the helm is a bonus.
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November 11, 2019 8:01am
- krazykiwi
  
  Ya gotta hand it to The Guardian, that bastion of socialist thought. When they’re not begging for my money on every page refresh, they’re lamenting “Sánchez set to fall short of majority – live updates”. Qué desastre!
  
  He secured 29% in April so the prospect of a majority was nothing more than a Socialists wet dream.
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:35am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    29% is a majority though if youre a Comrade
    
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    November 11, 2019 10:36am
- krazykiwi
  
  So, tweet sized analysis of the result:
  1. The right cannibalized itself, move further right, and gained a few seats.
  2. The left lost a few seats.
  3. The election was called to end the hung parliament. It hasn’t.
  
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  November 11, 2019 11:31am
slightlyrighty

Winston has been lying again….

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2019/11/11/901678/to-these-civil-servants-words-matter-mr-peters#

He claimed that he had paid back “way less” than $18,000 to MSD as a result of his overpayment.

He actually paid back $17,936.43 according to Court Documents.
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November 11, 2019 8:03am
- igm
  
  Pity he has not paid back $158,000 he owes N taxpayers . . . plus interest and penalties. Why do MSM ignore this dishonesty, is it because he is a boozing mate of Soper?
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:18am
  - Brian McDonald
    
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    You mention this weekly but what is your proof of debt and why hasn’t it been pursued? I looked into it some years back and don’t recall that it was a provable debt against WP.
    
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    November 11, 2019 10:00am
    - Brian McDonald
      
      This appears to show he/NZF paid $158,000 to Starship hospital? https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10481938
      
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      November 11, 2019 10:05am
      - Nickc2
        
        The debt was between NZ1st and the Crown, not Starship. This was the act of a smart arse lawyer. Peters at the time was looking for some charity to accept the payment, many refused.
        
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        November 11, 2019 10:21am
      - backster
        
        No acknowledgement reported by Starship of having received the money though. Does anyone believe a word Peters says. (apart from you) and Yvette
        
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        November 11, 2019 10:37am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        But didn’t they refuse to accept it? Where did it go?
        
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        November 11, 2019 10:42am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        No receipts have been produced to show who eventually got the $158,000.
        A payment to a third party without the debtor’s (Crown) consent does not expunge a debt.
        
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        November 11, 2019 11:01am
      - sooty
        
        Trousered!
        
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        November 11, 2019 12:22pm
- sooty
  
  $63.57 less! Yer lying turd and were’s our $158,000 as well and the lady that Bell tried to kill in the pub?
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:22am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Winston Peters should henceforth be known as The $63.57 Man, or when he asks a question, the person should reply “Ah Mr Peters, that’s the $63.57 question” 😀
    
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    November 11, 2019 12:54pm
    - Michael
      
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      Excellent suggestion..
      
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      November 11, 2019 3:52pm
- Yvette
  
  The entire case is that Winston Peters’ “private details” should not have been publicly disclosed.
  
  There is not one detail I am aware of that has been disclosed that Winston himself has not confirmed, or indeed in many cases enlarged on, through his own voluntary answers to media or statements he has himself made.
  
  Except the amount involved, $18,000 as estimated by media, but denied by Peters.
  However that amount, $17,936.43, is now known too
  – ironically via the court case Winston has launched.
  
  So, thus far, all “private details”, supposedly leaked, have by Winston’s own voluntary actions been confirmed as “public details”
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:39am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Aren’t ALL incomes of MP’s, made on the list of pecuniary interest? Just like rental properties etc, and therefore of public interest and can NEVER be private info.?
    
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    November 11, 2019 9:24am
  - Brian McDonald
    
    Yvette. You’ve got the point of the civil action now, but you are misinterpreting the reason for its disclosure – evidence for which was given last week.
    
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    November 11, 2019 9:58am
  - cut n paster
    
    “The entire case is that Winston Peters’ “private details” should not have been publicly disclosed.”
    
    Of Course! His private details should be exposed.
    This is a career politician who’s ripped us off for 40 years.
    So far the case shows he thinks he’s very and far too important to do, what normal people do everyday. Forms? the arrogance!
    What other smelly deals is he hiding from us?
    He’s very protective of his private details.
    After a life time of showmanship, at the level of complete charlatan….
    Well, you’d think there would be some openness from all the honesty and transparency that have been hallmarks of the fading Peters dynasty. /sarc
    
    This is transparency….that is not.
    
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    November 11, 2019 10:03am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Where are Winnies marbles? He’s a lawyer and must know that that he has to prove the actual damages claimed both in substance and by value in each case. This makes the case nonsense.
    
    His scattering of embroidered facts about what has happened has relieved anyone of accountability because Mr Ed has give all the facts. How could anyone be said now to have given info before Mr Ed?
    If Winnie still has his marbles is this a clever way of attacking National? Who’s paying for this? Some part is surely going to have to be met by Winston Incorporated.
    
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    November 11, 2019 10:57am
  - tf78
    
    I would argue that the “public” pay his pension so it should be publicly disclosed.
    
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    November 11, 2019 11:07am
- freethinker
  
  So would it be fair to summarize peters statements as, largely untrue, unsupported and designed to mislead?
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:45am
- peterwn
  
  The $64 difference is what Paula would spend on flowers to try and make Winston’s day when the case falls flat on its face.
  
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  November 11, 2019 9:32am
- artemisia
  
  To be charitable, Mr Peters was uncertain how to complete a complicated government form. Look, it happens as folk age, move along, nothing to see here..
  
  Did I mention he later became Deputy Prime Minister?
  
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  November 11, 2019 12:30pm
alloytoo

It’s getting harder and harder for Peters to claim reputation damage.

His court case has allowed the Ministry of Social Development to refute many of his assertions to the press.

Good on them.

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2019/11/11/901678/to-these-civil-servants-words-matter-mr-peters#
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November 11, 2019 8:04am
- sooty
  
  He has no reputation to be damaged!
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:27am
  - Nickc2
    
    Agree Sooty. IMHO, he lost all credibility even as a lawyer with the Owen Glenn debarcle.
    
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    November 11, 2019 10:00am
    - sooty
      
      So he went to uni, 55, 60 yrs ago and law clerked for a couple. It didn’t make him Perrt Mason!
      
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      November 11, 2019 12:30pm
- alex Masterley
  
  The word “unreliable” springs to mind.
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:31am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Questionable credibility too.
    
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    November 11, 2019 9:49am
  - peterwn
    
    The word “unbelievable” also springs to mind.
    It must have made Brendan Boyle’s (MSD chief) day when all this hit his desk.
    
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    November 11, 2019 9:52am
    - rightoverlabour
      
      There are words that come to mind, but they will be deleted. I’ll leave a list of letters though
      
      IKCNTUUCGNF
      
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      November 11, 2019 10:47am
- Yvette
  
  A precedent? – Justice Toogood delivered his 250-page decision on Thursday, finding Mr Slater … did defame Mr Craig, but that most of the damage to Mr Craig’s reputation “resulted almost entirely from his own actions”, so no damages were awarded.
  
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  November 11, 2019 9:28am
- Colville
  
  Winston has a fantastic reputation!
  As a liar, cheat and thief!
  
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  November 11, 2019 9:40am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Perhaps the Court will order the defendants to send Winston an invoice, for enhancing his reputation.
    
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    November 11, 2019 10:08am
- MrLovebucket
  
  The only damage to his reputation would be if he actually did something that benefited others over himself for a change. He has a long standing and well known reputation for simply looking after himself.
  
  Can’t see it ever happening though.
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:46am
- peterwn
  
  Tim Murphy (Newsroom) was one of Winston’s early targets but was let go (and I think received costs) quite early in the piece. Cam Slater commented at the time thought Tim was not finished with yet and still faced a real roasting. Instead Tim was laughing his head off and poking the bear. The MSD evidence that is coming out must be making his day. I enjoy Tim’s commentary on the case.
  Since Winston would have seen the briefs of MSD evidence, he must have been crazy forcing it to trial. I think Brendan Boyle and Victoria Casey QC will be looking forward to this week as MSD evidence demolishes Winston’s claims. The other problem is Winston is too well known so MSD staff at office X would have remembered the occasion well.
  I can only think that Winston is losing it. He seems to be on a hiding to nowhere. I hope his legal advisers are not raising false hopes. He is in line for another lot of flowers from Paula.
  Things will be worse off for anyone trying a Winston stunt against MSD in the future. In Winston’s case they had to go through boxes of papers at a storage facility. More recent paperwork would have been scanned and would be available at the click of a mouse.
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:46am
  - alex Masterley
    
    The case shows that despite the derision that ministries such as MSD are treated they employ competent and capable people.
    It also shows that there is admirable attention to detail and even handed treatment of people who are on their books even politicians.
    Their record keeping is pretty good as well.
    Which means facts trump bullshit and bluster.
    
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    November 11, 2019 12:34pm
Maggie Pie

got POLIO*?

Me neither.

THANKS SCIENCE.

*or diptheria, pertussis, tetanus, measles, mumps, rubella, Hep A, Hep B,
varicella, Pneumococcus, HPV, Haemophilus
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November 11, 2019 8:04am
- hullkiwi
  
  It was good comedy reading the fun the two North Shore Barrys were having with the anti-vaxxers. Even if half of what H Barry has received as vitriol from the anti-vaxxers is true, the anti-vax mob are indeed a feral mob….
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:15am
- cmm
  
  …and all the processes that make Krispy Kremes perfect – all science….
  
  But don’t forget the engineers too – scientists took months to brew up one dose of penicillin. It was chemical engineering that made billions of doses available for close to “free”.
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:57am
- srylands
  
  and smallpox.
  
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  November 11, 2019 9:49am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Thank Rotary too Maggie. We decided in the mid-1980’s to make the eradication of polio our #1 goal. From around 350,000 cases worldwide in 1988, polio is now endemic only in two countries, Pakistan and Afghanistan, and only in remote border regions of those countries.
  
  We won’t stop until the world is polio-free, and we’ve got a fantastic partner in the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, who have given more than a billion dollars to the End Polio Now initiative.
  
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  November 11, 2019 9:51am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Has it been eradicated from Nigeria again ? It was nearly eliminated there but radical Islamists pushed the theory that the vaccinations were designed to sterilize the Muslim population (which is similar to campaigns in Pakistan and Afghanistan) so the disease wasn’t completely eliminated.
    
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    November 11, 2019 12:10pm
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Yes. It’s likely that the World Health Organisation will certify Nigeria (and by extension, the African continent) polio-free within the next few months. The third anniversary of the last recorded polio case in Nigeria was reached about a month ago.
      
      Interestingly, Islamic leaders have recently issued a fatwa in Afghanistan and Pakistan to the effect that the polio vaccine contains no ingredients which are prohibited by Islamic law. That will definitely help with the vaccination effort in those last two polio-endemic countries.
      
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      November 11, 2019 12:59pm
      - simpleton1
        
        It is getting very close to the end of polio,
        Did not realize there were different types of polio, and the “vaccine-derived polio” which is very unfortunate.
        
        Thanks be to everyone world wide in the work to take down this virus.
        http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2019/10/world-polio-day-wild-poliovirus-type-3-declared-eradicated
        
        So near, to the finish of it.
        
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        November 11, 2019 1:29pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        Tony, do you know about China’s interior? I had heard that polio was still transmitted there (+ Pakistan and Afghanistan)? Thx in advance
        
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        November 11, 2019 3:03pm
  - alex Masterley
    
    Tony, I think that when Polio is eradicated Rotary will move onto a new target, so Rotary wont stop.
    It will keep working on projects that are similar, Measles maybe?
    
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    November 11, 2019 4:08pm
JibberJabber

“We cannot Ban, Tax and Protest our way to Prosperity.”

A great line from Vernon Tava this morning.

Of course for this current “govt” and especially the Greens, “prosperity” is an anathema to them, an equal sharing of misery is their utopian dream.
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November 11, 2019 8:07am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Anyone seen Pania lately?
  
  Pania who I hear you ask.
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:43am
  - kevn
    
    @Paulus… She was a legend (to some) for 5 minutes.
    
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    November 11, 2019 9:50am
- freethinker
  
  Whist this new party is unknown & untested it appears that it will take votes off The Greens (Great) and Labour (Good) so who will they favour if they (Unlikely) achieve 5%?
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:48am
  - rockape
    
    I will be happy if they just take enough of the Green vote to ensure they dont make the 5%.
    
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    November 11, 2019 9:54am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      That would be a win-win scenario.
      
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      November 11, 2019 1:00pm
  - slightlyrighty
    
    It depends on the approach that the parties take.
    
    Should the Sustainability Party get a 5% toe hold in Parliament, much will be made of the approach that the relevant parties make in negotiations.
    
    With NZ First, the negotiations seemed to be centered on what the major party can give to the minor party. There will always be an element of that. However, I think Tava would be more open to an approach that asks what the minor party can do to help the major party.
    
    If Vernon wants to differentiate his party, I suggest that he instigate a policy that any coalition agreement agreed to will be made public in its entirety. A democratic country has a right to see a document that outlines how the government of the day plans to operate.
    
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    November 11, 2019 10:03am
    - Michael
      
      Good Point.
      
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      November 11, 2019 11:13am
- RW Capitalist
  
  “prosperity” is an anathema to them,”
  But only when it applies to us.
  When applied to themselves…………
  
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  November 11, 2019 9:27am
- Ruahine
  
  To my observations of the people in Parliament calling themselves members of the Green Party this equal sharing of misery is for others not for these self proclaimed experts on all things.
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:03am
sooty

How long will Jimmy Shaw last as green co leader?
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November 11, 2019 8:08am
- JibberJabber
  
  Hands up all those who give a shit ?.
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:13am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Including those at labour party camps where one has to take them out of someone else’s pants first . . .
    
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    November 11, 2019 8:45am
Souvlaki

This is the portfolio of St Jacinda the Vapid. What sayeth she to this valid analysis? Hope Hosking gives her a workout on this issue on Tuesday!
http://nzh.tw/12284001
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November 11, 2019 8:09am
G152

After watching the latest on the news a thought occurs.
In every case you see trees and the remains of burnt trees in and about
the destroyed houses.
So

Clear the trees away from towns, villages, houses and roads.
That should reduce property damage and deaths.
Example.
All roads seen in the news are bordered by trees right up to
the seal and people tying to escape the fire have to drive through
that wall of fire.
Removing those tees back to a 100 meters from the side of the road will
allow safer emergency exits for every-one
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November 11, 2019 8:11am
- kevn
  
  @G152… In Aussie the greens ban residential tree culling. California has the same problem.
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:23am
  - NoCash
    
    Well… nature has taken care of it.
    
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    November 11, 2019 8:36am
  - MarkF
    
    You’re right CA does have the same issue but it appears as if the guardians of the Getty Museum have out-smarted the greenies. They bring the goats once a year and give them free reign. Natural solution so they can’t complain. Maybe a thought in Aus?
    
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    November 11, 2019 8:55am
  - Colville
    
    In eucalyptus forest the bark and leaf litter is tinder.
    Staying on the coast in oz a few weeks ago the people were busy clearing around their house and burning up the rubbish
    Signs everywhere.. Clear up before fire season.
    
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    November 11, 2019 9:49am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      With fire? That sounds dangerous.
      
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      November 11, 2019 6:19pm
- Rich Prick
  
  The Australian Greens made it impossible to do such a sensible thing. They should be sent a bill for all of the loss.
  
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  November 11, 2019 9:13am
  - Michael
    
    kicking out of Parliament would be a start….
    
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    November 11, 2019 3:55pm
- MCos
  
  Alternatively don’t build the houses amongst the trees.
  Either way it’s a moot point because if these fires had been regular occurrences in the same the locations previously both the houses and the trees wouldn’t be there.
  
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  November 11, 2019 9:24am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Wrong, both California and Australia have these ecosystems where fires are endemic. They can damage and kill fully grown trees but typically don’t kill all, they just burn all the litter and debris and provide fertile ground for more trees.
    
    Both places learnt that you can largely mitigate the risk by removing the understory and litter around housing and in strategic areas; and that was widely applied up until relatively recently. What you have now, especially in California, is an active move out of the major cities, a desire to build “in harmony with the surroundings” (meaning amongst the trees basically, and a lot of regulations that allow housing amongst trees but largely forbid the clearance of litter and under-story vegetation to reduce fire risk.
    
    You can find videos of previous years fires on a “town” called (I think) Paradise. It had 14,000 off inhabitants living amongst wooded surroundings. A majority of the houses were burnt to the ground, but most of the mature trees remain standing and recovered.
    
    If people are to live in such areas, either the risk of fires is simply accepted, or actions must be taken to reduce the risk. Those actions are well understood, but blocked by foolish regulations.
    
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    November 11, 2019 12:18pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Perhaps they need to get some advice from Finland on raking the forests.
      
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      November 11, 2019 1:10pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        You’ve got the principle right…
        
        reduce the fuel load.
        
        https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/12/12/trump-was-right-about-raking-finnish-forests/
        
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        November 11, 2019 4:37pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Yep, the town is Paradise and the Camp Fire was it’s most recent disaster.
      
      The Town was on a ridge.. one road in & out.
      There had been at least 13 large wildfires in the locality in the previous decade!
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Fire_(2018)
      
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      November 11, 2019 2:05pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Gigantic clearings would be required including access ways. Fire can jump.
  I see the houses among the trees and feel the losses too. But everyone knew those were the risks-eucalypts fill the air with flammable vapours giving the Blue Mountains landscape. The trees also produce a burnable bark as fire figures in their natural ecology. Humans who chose to live in that places are not wise.
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:43am
- KevO'Brien
  
  You can’t clear trees they’re carbon sinks. Fire sinks humans.
  Golly gaia, how do we peel nut cases?
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:46am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It’s a perennial problem for Australia.
  
  Here’s a good summary of Bushfire history and the debate on reduction burning in New South Wales presented to the NSW Parliament following the 2001-2002 Fire season.
  
  https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/researchpapers/Documents/bushfires/05-02.pdf
  
  A bit out of date… with maps showing locations of some of Australia’s major bushfires
  http://romseyaustralia.com/firesum.html
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:48am
Odakyu-sen

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/environment/news/article.cfm?c_id=39&objectid=12283947

First they eliminate the foreign trees.
Then they eliminate the foreign people.
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November 11, 2019 8:14am
- Paginus
  
  Well they’ve already started eliminating our history and place names. I give it about 20 years till shit hits the fan, by then the English population will be old and almost below 50% of the population.
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:23am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    I should think the English portion of our population would be closer to 5% than 50% already.
    
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    November 11, 2019 1:11pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      It depends on whether you mean:
      – English native speakers (as would be an ethnic Chinese/Korean/Japanese/Filippino youth born in Auckland)
      – Ethnic English (3rd-generation New Zealanders whose grandparents migrated to NZ after WWI)
      – English passport holders (whose parents could have been born in Uganda in the 1960s)
      
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      November 11, 2019 4:03pm
KevO'Brien

Killing Assange softly.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/un-envoy-issues-grim-warning-over-assanges-life
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November 11, 2019 8:26am
- Lizziep
  
  KevO’Brien, I have just finished an interesting book called The Secret Life by Andrew O’Hagan regarding Julian Assange. Don’t think he is living in reality according to Andrew. Very strange man.
  
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  November 11, 2019 9:46am
  - Ruahine
    
    Assange is just another weirdo living off largely the stolen leavings and takings from government and business digital messiness. A bit like someone else I can think of.
    
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    November 11, 2019 10:12am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Assange’s beliefs are irrelevant to the conduct of the UK Courts and prisons. Are we back to the dungeons when the US want’s someone to interrogate?
    
    What has gone wrong with society that we tolerate such inhumane and bullying Courts?
    
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    November 11, 2019 10:31am
Maggie Pie

The new guy on our team, [a Saffa], definitely fancies his chances.
So much so, that i’ve already had to read him his horoscope a couple of times.
I actually made the mistake on Saturday of telling my partner, he threatened to come and clean his clock.
Anyway, ‘gods gift’ never turned up for last nights shift. Phoned in sick. It still didn’t stop him emailing me…

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIoxJEKXsAExm2S?format=jpg&name=small
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November 11, 2019 8:38am
- Michael
  
  Sometimes a Klap is all people will listen too.
  
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  November 11, 2019 3:59pm
Lee C

Bears repeating: https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2019/11/11/901678/to-these-civil-servants-words-matter-mr-peters#
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November 11, 2019 8:39am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Those MSD Public Servants have done the Public a service with their meticulous record keeping.
  
  How easy it has been for our Deputy PM and complicit MSM to attempt to trash their work.
  
  He is the fool who cannot fill in a form correctly and cannot recall events correctly and cannot admit when he has blundered.
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:56am
  - alex Masterley
    
    The most important point for me is (or was) the reported reaction of Paula Bennett to the news of the overpayment, and Mr Peters immediate repayment of the amount overpaid.
    It was something along the lines of well done for dealing with the issue as he did. If she was out to make political capital of the issue she wouldn’t have said that.
    
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    November 11, 2019 9:12am
    - Ruawai
      
      Seems the only reason it was discovered was when his partner Trotman became eligible for her pension.
      
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      November 11, 2019 10:30am
      - sooty
        
        Yep, that was my take as well!
        He got shafted as it came to light he had not filled in the paperwork correctly, when comparing his to hers!
        
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        November 11, 2019 12:39pm
      - Hollyfield
        
        Maybe it’s simply a matter of the difference between the sexes – she sees love and relationship and he sees no relationship at all!
        
        (meant as humour – in reality I think he’s a deliberate fraud and a cheat)
        
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        November 11, 2019 6:16pm
    - Brian McDonald
      
      Not so sure.
      
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      November 11, 2019 1:09pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    I put Winston’s problems down to age damage, including excessive living.
    There is another semi-professional group who can’t fill in paper work too. Many of them now in the COL numbers.
    
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    November 11, 2019 10:25am
krazykiwi

German City Razes Over 600 Acres Of Forest To Build Giant Wind Turbines

What follows is an example of how German decisionmakers go about protecting the environment: chop down hundreds of acres of forests and pour thousands of tons on concrete reinforced with hundreds of tons of steel on huge beds of gravel, all hauled in by hundreds of truckloads. Then install skyscraper tall industrial bird-killing monstrosities.

Result: an idyllic forest gets turned into an industrial complex that can be seen and felt from miles away – in order to protect the climate.
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November 11, 2019 8:50am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Might be the swan-song of large wind farms in Germany though..
  
  https://www.focus.de/finanzen/news/die-politik-hat-uns-den-stecker-gezogen-windkraft-riese-enercon-streicht-3000-jobs_id_11328472.html?fbclid=IwAR3J3Godo-AzcM-TiXffz8APemVXguPiwh-a0L9Tqi3fxGZ7OE8N2UAaPqo
  
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  November 11, 2019 9:56am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Are humans and birds covered by climate or do they just get the green left overs?
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:22am
Happychappy

Cactus Kate and her view on Winston Peter’s needs Respect from his whiskey drinking mate Richard Griffin.
https://asianinvasion2019.blogspot.com/2019/11/respecting-winston-peters.html?m=1
Also good to see Kimbo commenting on another blog used to really appreciate his comment on Kiwiblog before he got sick.
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November 11, 2019 8:59am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Kimbo was commenting a bit on Pete George’s blog a few months back.
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:00am
- Ruahine
  
  Kate has always been a very good read. Glad she restarted her blog.
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:18am
MCos

Amusing tweet, depending on how offended you get by fun being poked at your hero
https://twitter.com/schainapunim/status/1193597973114081282?s=21
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November 11, 2019 8:59am
- stephieboy
  
  Stormy would say that’s a bit generous!
  
  https://twitter.com/crazymcmama/status/1193615415651524608
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:47am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    How the hell would Stormy remember which is which. She’s probably chewed on more than most.
    
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    November 11, 2019 6:02pm
secondcumming

*WEEKEND HEADLINES*

SBW rumored to have signed staggering *$9 million deal* with Toronto Wolfpack – richest contract in rugby history.

SBW mulls *$4 million purse* to fight league great Paul Gallen next year.

Iran’s President Rouhani announces discovery of massive new oil field worth *Trillions of dollars*

I wonder if *Khoder* is PR Manager for both parties?
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November 11, 2019 9:07am
- stephieboy
  
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  secondcumming, giggle, giggle, snigger!
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:42am
pjams

Looks like the Tomorrow’s School’s report is about to be released and apparently without the (mind boggling insanely) stupid Hubs idea.
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November 11, 2019 9:11am
oldpark

Maybe it is time to give Winston a break . How about concetrating on the wee girl called Zoe from the far left lunatic Green Party. Yes that pack of self styled free loading blood suckers who seemed to overlook the plight of some of their female acquaintances allegedly sexually attacked in the office of Winston Peters NZ selected PM Ardern .
Yes that pack of bludgers kept their heads down when the claims were made.
Seems with a income of $200,000 each for saying nothing about the plight of their female compadres ,why would they get involved.
Yes it took a virtual also ran called Zoe in that coven to expose the type of free loading that allows a virtual nobody to abuse and use the system. . The claim to fame for the far left lunatic Green party is cat calling and promoting the legalislation of drugs ,any which way . MMP what a ******* joke.
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November 11, 2019 9:12am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Her name is Chloe. By all means criticise her behaviour, but at least get her name right.
  
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  November 11, 2019 9:58am
  - Jack5
    
    And you don’t wanna forget Chlöe Charlotte Swarbrick’s umlaut!
    
    Though most folk with this name put the umlaut over the “e” – spelling it “Chloë“.
    
    I don’t speak German, but I understand that “umlaut” in German means change of sound. According to Google Translate, it appears in über (meaning “above”), now everywhere meaning (the umlaut dropped) the taxi-type company.
    
    Google Translate seems to suggest that the German pronunciation of ö would make our Y’s gal MP’s Christian name pronounced something like Clue- ee.
    
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    November 11, 2019 12:03pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Fun fact: Putting the umlaut on Jäck gives the pronunciation ‘jerk’.
      
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      November 11, 2019 1:17pm
      - Jack5
        
        ? You’re mispronouncing ä, Milky, but, great to see you striving to find your gallant side. Keep looking!
        
        Won’t do you any good though, Milky. To Y’s gal Greenies like Chlöe, you can never be more than another tax-guzzling, methane-making boomer.
        
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        November 11, 2019 5:16pm
  - oldpark
    
    Thank you Happy Monday.
    
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    November 11, 2019 12:47pm
  - oldpark
    
    Thank You Tony Stuart .Happy Monday.
    
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    November 11, 2019 2:41pm
- stephieboy
  
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  oldpark, blah, blah, blah…
  
  Or in other words get a life.
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:48am
- cut n paster
  
  Someone say
  “plight of some of their female acquaintances allegedly sexually attacked in the office of Winston Peters NZ selected PM Ardern .”
  
  WE remember Jacinda and we’re not paid half a million a year…
  https://ibb.co/YfbN0nW
  
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  November 11, 2019 11:17am
Lee C

Ten typical statements by Winston Peters – each fact-checked and torn to shreds.

But that’s how these people treat civil servants isn’t it?

This surely deserves a post of its own.
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November 11, 2019 9:17am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Slight niggle..
  we have public servants in NZ not civil servants.
  https://ssc.govt.nz/spirit-of-service/future-of-the-public-service/
  
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  November 11, 2019 9:29am
  - Lee C
    
    Duly noted Maggy.
    
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    November 11, 2019 12:00pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      It’s the Newsroom journalist/editor -Tim Murphy- that should know better.
      
      https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2019/11/11/901678/to-these-civil-servants-words-matter-mr-peters#
      
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      November 11, 2019 12:11pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Is it deliberate misnomer?…public SERVANT?
    
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    November 11, 2019 1:24pm
Happychappy

What will Labour do about the the Public Service and its demand on the Government to do something about sexual assault and discrimination and how can a Government with the worst reputation in deceiving the public on several sagas of this nature be in charge of such happenings after being caught out trying to stop them reaching the media.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/117304462/public-service-susceptible-to-misuse-of-power-for-sexual-gain–petitioner
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November 11, 2019 9:32am
Maggie Pie

I don’t mean to brag, but my posts are enjoyed by well over 30 people worldwide.
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November 11, 2019 9:35am
- Lizziep
  
  Well done you that’s terrific, are you sure there are not more. I think you may have underestimated.
  
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  November 11, 2019 9:50am
- chaos
  
  Hoe many of those 30 are split personalities?
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:04am
- stephieboy
  
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  30 bores worldwide?
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:49am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Some people lack the ability to laugh at themselves.
    That’s where I come in.
    
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    November 11, 2019 11:23am
    - sooty
      
      Yes Maggie, so we can all laugh at him not with him!
      
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      November 11, 2019 12:53pm
Jack5

Boomer runs amok! The kookiest murder of the year …

Russian history professor, 63, chops up girl student, and then plans to commit suicide dressed as Napoleon.

St Petersburg police fished him out of the Moika River. He had a backpack containing some of the girl’s limbs.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/11/10/russian-professor-admits-murder-womans-severed-arms-found-in-bag-a68112
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November 11, 2019 9:37am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  and who knew that Cannabis seeds could be used as fish bait?
  https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/11/06/90-year-old-russian-professor-convicted-over-hemp-fishing-bait-a68058
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:07am
- cut n paster
  
  What an Armed Professor?
  Call the Armed Offenders Squad!
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:10am
- Jack5
  
  More on Professor Sokolov, this time from the Telegraph:
  
  Sokolov teaches history at Saint Petersburg State University, President Vladimir Putin’s alma mater, and was close to the Russian authorities.
  
  He told investigators that he shot and killed his lover during an argument and then sawed off her head, arms and legs, local media reported.
  
  And …
  
  The historian, who also taught at Sorbonne University, is the author of books on French emperor Napoleon Bonaparte.
  
  He acted as a historical consultant on several films and took part in historical re-enactments of Napoleonic wars.
  
  Both he and his lover studied French history and liked to wear period costumes, with Sokolov dressing up as Napoleon.
  
  Students described Sokolov as both a talented lecturer who could impersonate the French emperor and his generals and a “freak” who called his lover “Josephine” and liked to be addressed as “Sire”.
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:12am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Napoleon: “From the sublime to the ridiculous it is only one step”
  
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  November 11, 2019 1:26pm
igm

Bet Hannah gets a lot more votes than media and many others realise. Seems they have a few good ideas, even if they were NZ1 policy, they need consideration.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/11/hannah-tamaki-s-vision-nz-says-it-will-ban-the-construction-of-mosques-temples-and-other-foreign-buildings.html
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November 11, 2019 9:45am
- chaos
  
  How is restricted ones freedom a good policy? Whether you agree with this religion or others to ban them privately building and funding their place of worship is wrong. Perhaps she could start by stopping taking the money from vulnerable families in her own cult
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:29am
- MCos
  
  She’s alienating a fairly substantial number of people right there.
  Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Roman Catholics, Church of England, Mormans . . . . . . .
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:46am
- Scott
  
  IGM – interesting idea. Although I don’t particularly like mosques, I do believe in freedom of religion. We Baptist Christians believe in the separation of church and state. So therefore we would generally be opposed to a state ban on building mosques and places of worship for other religions.
  
  It is a hard one though. I do think common sense should apply. So the idea of Saudi Arabia financing huge mosques that take up the centre of town would be very problematic in my view. That’s where councils need to be vigilant on planning laws and also defending the character of the town. So the building of huge minarets broadcasting the Muslim call to prayer at 5 o’clock in the morning would be anathema to most New Zealanders. Not DPF who thinks it’s marvellous.
  
  But I guess the bottom line is that if you are going to allow Muslims to come into our country then you cannot in good conscience ban them from their religious observance and practices. That would not be right.
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:53am
  - DigNap15
    
    A friend told me that there are more mosques in Enlgand than churches.
    Is that what you would like here.
    
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    November 11, 2019 11:10am
    - chaos
      
      ah, no, not even close, but why bother with facts when you can make a stupid comment like that
      
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      November 11, 2019 12:42pm
    - Scott
      
      DigNap15 – I absolutely would not like more mosques here and I would not like there to be less churches. However the point I am making and the only point is that freedom of religion is important. So for the state to ban the construction of mosques in New Zealand would not be right. The same way that the state in Saudi Arabia bans the construction of churches.
      So I cannot in good conscience argue for freedom of religion in Saudi Arabia and deny freedom of religion in New Zealand.
      
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      November 11, 2019 2:33pm
    - igm
      
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      November 11, 2019 3:00pm
    - chaos
      
      Oh by the way, if you educate yourself before making fake statements you would know in the uk there are about 1800 mosques compared to just under 50,000 churches.
      
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      November 11, 2019 6:14pm
  - Michael
    
    Last good point Scott.
    
    Another point.
    REM Elizabeth in Holland quoting Pres Erdogan’s words “Our mosques are our forts”?
    The EU prosecuted her for Hate speech as part of their Dhimmitude.
    
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    November 11, 2019 11:29am
    - Michael
      
      12:16
      Just bought her book on Amazon.
      Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff – The Truth is no Defence.
      
      She battled through the Austrian courts then to the EU court.
      So freedom of speech doesn’t matter if it is the truth in the EU.
      
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      November 11, 2019 12:17pm
      - sooty
        
        Maybe could start with no overseas funds used in constuction!
        
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        November 11, 2019 12:55pm
  - Jack5
    
    Saudi Arabia is financing mosque building throughout the West.
    
    There should be a bit of reciprocity in religious exchange.
    
    The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia in 2012 declared that all churches in the Arabian Peninsula must be destroyed. There are no churches in Saudi Arabia, but he was angry about a Catholic cathedral in Kuwait.
    
    Coptic Christians from Egypt and Christians from the Philippines and elsewhere who work in Saudi Arabia are not allowed to practise their religion openly.
    
    The Vatican last year dismissed as false reports that it had negotiated an agreement with Saudi Arabia to build churches in the country.
    
    Meanwhile discrimination exists against the West taking Christian refugees from the Middle East, according to this report:
    
    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/britains-shameful-secret-bias-against-christian-refugees/
    
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    November 11, 2019 11:30am
    - stephieboy
      
      Jack5, an email to the Whitehouse would be timely!
      
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      November 11, 2019 2:39pm
  - Jack5
    
    Scott, after your mention of Baptists, I have a couple of questions for you as an adherent (sincere and not merely seeking to score a point).
    
    Were the Baptists the main religious force in the Confederacy during the American Civil War?
    
    Are there two streams of Baptists in the United States, separated by race, or has that all been left well behind?
    
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    November 11, 2019 11:40am
    - Scott
      
      Jack 5 – those are all good questions but I have no idea of the answers. We are part of the New Zealand Baptist churches, not the American ones. Sorry I can’t help.
      
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      November 11, 2019 2:30pm
    - curry4me
      
      I gather many of the Southern Baptists are largely African-American. Many of the other Baptists aren’t
      
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      November 11, 2019 9:59pm
  - Swifty
    
    Well said Scott.
    
    Having said that I firmly believe the further spread of Islam in NZ is not in our interests.
    
    Significant social problems will result. Just look at the rest of the world, particularly Europe.
    
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    November 11, 2019 12:05pm
    - Scott
      
      Thanks swiftly. I was at a Baptist conference on the weekend in Christchurch and both taxidrivers to and from the airport were Muslims. One was from Singapore and the other was a Muslim from Afghanistan. He was in the mosque when the evil Australian started shooting and got shrapnel in his head. Most of it has been removed but one piece of shrapnel kept moving and is still in there.
      
      He seemed a decent chap and is working hard making a living for him and his family. He talked to me about what Mohammed says in the Koran and I talked about what Jesus says in the Bible.
      
      So it is possible to get along with Muslims and many of them are nice people. So my comments are not based on personal animus towards Muslims. But like you I am concerned about mass Muslim immigration. I’m concerned about terrorism.
      
      So as a policy I would definitely like to see the number of Muslims coming into our country to be very low. Because it just seems that the more Muslims you have, once they get over a certain percentage of the population, then you have real problems. France and Belgium are good examples of this.
      
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      November 11, 2019 12:24pm
      - Nickc2
        
        Scott, the problem is not necessarily with the number of Muslims who come here. I believe regardless of how many are here at any one time, [deleted by Mod] they establish their own enclaves and rules associated with such (Sharia Law).
        We only have to look at the UK and more close to home, Australia. Both the UK and Australia have ‘no go zones’ where Sharia Law applies and the authorities are powerless to change things, even if they could. I seriously doubt London will ever have a non Muslim mayor again.
        
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        November 11, 2019 12:58pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Scott,
        
        “… I am concerned about mass Muslim immigration. I’m concerned about terrorism.”
        
        Mass Muslim immigation Aoteraroa NZ ? Terrorism?
        
        Like 23/0319?
        
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        November 11, 2019 1:17pm
      - Swifty
        
        I’ve nothing against Muslims as individuals. I’ve met good ones and crap ones and try my best to judge all people on their actions and character.
        
        However, Islam is a set of ideas and rules. Many of which (I’m not saying all) I believe incompatible with modern secular democracies.
        
        It seems a great pity that as a nation we seem unable to discuss the fact that of the thousands of Middle-Eastern refugees we are and will continue to allow here (depending where exactly they hail from):
        
        30% believe gays should be executed
        70% believe gays should be imprisoned
        Over half believe those who leave Islam should be killed
        Between 30 and 40% believe the sharia should hold mastery over NZ law
        Approximately half believe NZ would be better off under sharia
        A majority believe that democracy is wrong because it places ‘man-made law’ above ‘god’s law’
        Etc, etc, etc
        
        And I won’t even start on the status of women and girls, other religions, separation of the sexes, women’s suffrage, the saturation of Islamic teaching in the education of children, the unwillingness to allow criticism of Islam etc
        
        For those NZers who believe that as soon as these people step off the plane they will all magically turn into true blue Kiwis and embrace all our values, behaviours and attitudes then of course this isn’t a problem.
        
        For the rest of us though………
        
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        November 11, 2019 1:18pm
      - stephieboy
        
        I’ve nothing against Muslims as individuals..
        
        Oh sure?
        
        For the rest of us though………
        
        Whom?
        
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        November 11, 2019 4:35pm
      - Swifty
        
        You never answer our questions – why should we answer yours?
        
        How many Sunni on Iraq?
        What is a ‘low-powered’ rifle?
        Show me one example where I’ve made a racist post here?
        Why are you so stupid?
        Why do you never admit when you’re wrong?
        
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        November 11, 2019 4:59pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Keep Muslim prayers out of NZ’s Parliament too.
    
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    November 11, 2019 1:21pm
- stephieboy
  
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  igm, yes brilliant fit for you. From your link,
  
  “Tamaki made headlines last month when she shared a doctored image of NZ First’s Shane Jones, making it look like he’d been using an image of a Muslim woman for target practice…”
  
  Why not nominate yourself as Vision NZ’s mascot?
  
  LOL
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:54am
- Paginus
  
  I’ve always said NZ needed it’s own Reconquista.
  
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  November 11, 2019 11:32am
  - Batman
    
    Good news, all of you above can now go off and vote for Hannah Tamaki, since she is taking up your desires for no mosques
    
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/11/hannah-tamaki-s-vision-nz-says-it-will-ban-the-construction-of-mosques-temples-and-other-foreign-buildings.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true
    
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    November 11, 2019 7:42pm
Maggie Pie

Can you believe the Yellow Eyed Penguin has been voted as Bird of the Year?
I went for the Cockatoo.
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November 11, 2019 10:05am
- plc
  
  I voted for my black cat (who for the purposes of this competition identified as a bird).
  
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  November 11, 2019 11:16am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    A black bird they? Any particular or peculiar gender?
    
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    November 11, 2019 1:55pm
  - Pharmachick
    
    Comedy GOLD! Keep posting 🙂
    
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    November 11, 2019 3:53pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Is it gay or transgender?
    
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    November 11, 2019 6:06pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  And I can’t see a common Turdus or a Brown Booby winning in the near future.
  
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  November 11, 2019 11:26am
  - Jack5
    
    Maggie Pie, wouldn’t you be campaigning for magpies?
    
    They’re interesting birds, much maligned but quite smart, and bold. I like them.
    
    Shall we say the bird most likely to be keen blogger.
    
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    November 11, 2019 11:35am
    - sooty
      
      KEA!
      
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      November 11, 2019 12:57pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        Sssshhhh lest you raise him from the dead!
        
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        November 11, 2019 3:54pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Alive and squawking over on YSB… even expressing fond memories of KB..
        
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        November 11, 2019 4:30pm
- GoVege
  
  Wasn’t it the native pigeon last year?
  I so hope that deterred people from illegally hunting and eating them….
  
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  November 11, 2019 11:58am
  - Pharmachick
    
    I have seen a kereru in the wild just once (forced hike in H/S that suddenly became totally worth it for 30 sec seeing that bird), but also I saw a couple recently when squiring a foreign friend around Fairy Springs/Rainbow Springs [whatever its called now] in Rotovegas in August… They are sooooo beautiful.
    
    Unfortunately, they also look like better eating than your average chicken! (just saying)
    
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    November 11, 2019 3:56pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  I wanted to vote for some Great Tits or a Shag.
  
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  November 11, 2019 7:45pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    we’ve only got a little tit, but there’s a choice of shags.
    
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    November 11, 2019 9:25pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  I think we have more cuckoos,
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:50pm
Maggie Pie

Hannah Tamaki has been one of my friends on Facebook and Twitter for yonks.
I’ve always really really loved what she has to say.
[Just a shame about her hubby]
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November 11, 2019 10:48am
- Michael
  
  Her Hubby’s alright, his heart’s in the right place, but his communication skills are a bit wayward some days.
  
  I joined them at the “Enough is Enough” protest at Parliament. The first protest I have ever gone to as a participant.
  
  They were very professional, with medic support and old ladies in HiVis to check on people and hand out water.
  
  Oh and don’t forget the boys in Black.
  I’ve never felt safer.
  
  The blowtards from the homo lobby (no trans then) were so vicious verbally to the kids in the family groups.
  The NZPolice just stood there and listened and did nothing.
  
  But the Blowtards backed off the boys in Black.
  Cowards, chiselling at kids.
  But that’s the left I guess.
  
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  November 11, 2019 11:35am
  - Swifty
    
    ‘Her Hubby’s alright, his heart’s in the right place….’
    
    Good grief Michael.
    
    The man lies for a living and lines his pockets with money taken from desperate and naive NZers.
    
    Easily one of the most contemptible people in NZ today.
    
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    November 11, 2019 12:33pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Yup, your right there Mike. They do have the country’s best interests at heart.
    Actually, my partners mum has a lot of time for The Bishop. She reckons he’s come a long way since his dad used to dive for pennies off the Whakarewarewa bridge 😀
    
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    November 11, 2019 12:47pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    old ladies in HiVis
    
    Anyone else read this as ‘old ladies in HiVs’?
    
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    November 11, 2019 1:30pm
    - Michael
      
      16:07
      Sorry only a twat would read that like that mmild,
      Hi Vis
      
      you are as bad as Stephie some days.
      
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      November 11, 2019 4:07pm
chaos

Jeremy Corbyn, Alexa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcoF4cHoX4g
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November 11, 2019 11:05am
stephieboy

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The best proof is experience as the saying goes,

” Australia drought: The ‘unlikely’ group calling for climate action”

Australia has just experienced its hottest summer and a succession of extreme weather events – making climate policy a key issue in May’s national election. Now one traditionally improbable group is increasingly calling for action: farmers. Gary Nunn reports from Sydney.

“Who better than capitalist conservative farmers to push the government on climate change?” asks Verity Morgan-Schmidt, who grew up on a farm and now heads lobby group Farmers for Climate Action.

It’s an issue that has rapidly shifted opinions in recent years and according to cattle producer Will Graham, farmers are emerging as somewhat unlikely campaigners in this space.

“Five, 10 years ago, no farmers would’ve believed in climate change – they were saying these are just weather cycles,” he says. “Now they accept it, they talk about it – and they want action.”
The shift, they say, is because farmers are seeing the devastating impacts of extreme weather on their land, as a prolonged drought cripples vast swathes of the nation….”

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-47890319
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November 11, 2019 11:10am
- secondcumming
  
  Come on *stephieboy*…… surely there must be a few more goats out there that need bothering?
  
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  November 11, 2019 12:39pm
- marcw
  
  The BBC promoting CC hoax – who would’ve thought!
  
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  November 11, 2019 12:43pm
- Michael
  
  yes Stephie
  it’s a pity the mod’s and DPF don’t live by that or you wouldn’t be here based on yours!
  
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  November 11, 2019 4:08pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Michael, whats the longest you’ve kept your head buried in the sand?
    
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    November 11, 2019 7:04pm
DigNap15

The New Conservatives
(some good far right policies)
Public Meeting in Tauranga with leader Leighton Baker
Wednesday 20th November 12.00-1.30 pm
Citizens Club 13th Avenue

I plan to go and have a listen
I’ll be wearing my red MAGA hat (Ardern)
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November 11, 2019 11:10am
- stephieboy
  
  DigNap15,
  
  (some good far right policies)
  
  ??
  Like Murri, Muslim and other minorities bashing?
  
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  November 11, 2019 12:59pm
- curry4me
  
  Give them a thumbs up from me. I hope they get several MPs in 2020.
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:07pm
Herodotus

The dirty little secret in this migration debate
Remember during the election the promise by all the parties that comprise the current govt regarding reducing our immigration – pity they do not follow up those promises . No wonder schools, hospitals roads etc. are failing us.

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2019/11/11/899072/the-dirty-little-secret-about-this-migration-debate
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November 11, 2019 11:11am
DigNap15

What with ACT getting a lot of support for its stance on the ETS
And now the New Greens
And Shane on NZ First Indians go home
And Hannah Tamaki no more mosques
And the New Conservatives

As they say, the next few polls will be interesting
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November 11, 2019 11:12am
- stephieboy
  
  DigNap15,
  
  Refer above ^
  
  In 2004, Tamaki predicted the Destiny Church would be “ruling the nation” before its tenth anniversary in 2008.[10]
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Tamaki
  
  LOL!
  
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  November 11, 2019 1:01pm
rightoverlabour

Always great when Commie Unionists go for the low hanging fruit. Fuckers.
From the Herald:
“I am spitting tacks over this’: Auckland bus strike disrupts students sitting exams, father outraged”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12284073
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November 11, 2019 11:43am
cut n paster

Ol’ Snaggle tooth is gasping for relevance at the Guardian…
Helen Clark: ‘I’d like to think I was ahead of my time’
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/11/helen-clark-id-like-to-think-i-was-ahead-of-my-time
I really hope she’s not looking for more than the Mt Eden NIMBY club.
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November 11, 2019 11:44am
- sooty
  
  Ohit ‘s been liberating not having her as our PM, trouble is her spawn inherited the job and stuffed it up!
  
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  November 11, 2019 4:26pm
Maggie Pie

And the more i hear from Chris Luxton on Twitter –
the more I like him as well 😛

https://twitter.com/Chris_Luxon/status/1193332873576636416
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November 11, 2019 11:51am
- Ruawai
  
  Parody account.
  
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  November 11, 2019 1:08pm
GoVege

Why is it certain subjects in the news seem to quietly go away?
Abuse within the Women’s Refuge a few weeks ago… Melbourne Cup racehorses sent to the meatworks to be turned into petfood, instead of enjoying some of the profits they earned for their humans?
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November 11, 2019 12:02pm
chaos

This is pretty disgusting, an unannounced strike affect school buses during exam time

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12284073
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November 11, 2019 12:05pm
srylands

This surprised me. Australia is vilified by many New Zealanders on climate change yet its emissions have declined sharply since 1990, totally the opposite of New Zealand.

“Australia’s emissions have decreased by 10.9 per cent (66.0 Mt CO-e) since 1990, reaching
538.9 Mt-e in the year to March 2019.”

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.environment.gov.au/system/files/resources/6686d48f-3f9c-448d-a1b7-7e410fe4f376/files/nggi-quarterly-update-mar-2019.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiyg4K94ODlAhVCpo8KHYeAA9sQFjAJegQIBRAC&usg=AOvVaw0pbwCYR5fGihs9Atp1zp3b
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November 11, 2019 12:10pm
- sooty
  
  Just been blown out in the bush fires!
  
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  November 11, 2019 1:02pm
- stephieboy
  
  srylands, a different view,
  
  “Australia’s carbon emissions continue to rise despite Government assurances about climate change policy”
  
  New figures show Australia’s carbon emissions are continuing to climb despite Federal Government assurances it has the policy framework to address climate change….
  
  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-30/emissions-drop-but-year-long-trend-on-the-rise/11464816
  
  However I must say that the Australian government appears to take these issues rather seriously unlike Climate ( heads buried in the sand ) deniers !
  
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  November 11, 2019 1:12pm
  - srylands
    
    You have a comprehension problem. You cannot have a different view on facts. The material I linked to is from the official emissions inventory.
    
    You act like a dumb person.
    
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    November 11, 2019 2:58pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Srylands
      
      You act like a dumb person.
      
      Stephieboy is “Kiwiblog’s dumbest commentator”
      Source: Tom Hunter (2016)
      
      Stephieboy is “a fuckwitted jelly brain”
      Source: Mikenmildagain (2019)
      
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      November 11, 2019 3:14pm
    - RW Capitalist
      
      I’m pretty sure…he’s not acting.
      
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      November 11, 2019 4:21pm
Fletch

We in NZ would have had our Poppy Day today as well, but the ship carrying the poppies to NZ for the very first Poppy Day was late, and so we decided to have it the next ANZAC Day…

The Returned Soldiers’ Association planned to hold its first Poppy Day appeal around the time of Armistice Day 1921 as other countries were doing. The ship carrying the poppies from France arrived in New Zealand too late for the scheme to be properly publicised. The association decided to wait until the next Anzac Day, 1922.

https://nzhistory.govt.nz/war/anzac-day/poppies
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November 11, 2019 1:11pm
srylands

This is insane. Climate activist does not want to fly to the North Island because planes bad. So she drives to Picton on a petrol powered car and then gets the cook strait ferry that using huge amounts of heavy oil. ?

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/no-flights-climate-conference-attendee
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November 11, 2019 1:34pm
- alex Masterley
  
  The stupid is strong in this one.
  If she sat down and worked out the emissions from each form of transport flying would be a no brainer.
  
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  November 11, 2019 4:03pm
  - sooty
    
    She could have caught a bus or train. But that would mean hobnobing with a lower class of people!
    
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    November 11, 2019 4:22pm
Chuck Bird

I will be going to this debate. Does anyone want to join me? I can book a table.

If so message me on my Facebook.

Live from the Chapel Bar – Climate crisis or climate hoax with:
National Party Climate Change Spokesperson – Scott Simpson
Leader of TOP – Geoff Simmons

School Strike 4 Climate Auckland coordinator – Luke Wijohn

Magic Talk Host – Peter Williams
Hosted by Bomber Bradbury & live-streamed on The Daily Blog

https://www.facebook.com/ChapelBarNZ/
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November 11, 2019 1:34pm
- cut n paster
  
  Nah Thanks though Chuck a great idea…
  But like the activist in the post above, I’m concerned about the environment and man made climate change, so I’ll try to dial in via Skype into the conference and sadly miss out on the rooting and free feeds.
  (Like never said by any virtue seeking Climate activist twat.)
  
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  November 11, 2019 4:15pm
- Debbie
  
  I shall be there.
  
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  November 11, 2019 5:17pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Did you make it Debbie?
    
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    November 11, 2019 11:24pm
- Debbie
  
  I just realised I possibly spoke to you. There didn’t seem to be many national supporters there….. I was wearing brown top and walked out about a third of the way through?
  
  It was an absolute shit show. Worst “debate” I have ever attended. So rude and so disrespectful.
  
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  November 11, 2019 9:20pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    I was wearing a black leather jacket.
    
    I was annoyed that there were not more National supporters there. The fault for that lies with National. Scott Simpson should have got the word out.
    
    I am a National Party member. National needs to look at Trump. If he or another Republican was in a debate there supporters would be encouraged to be there.
    
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    November 12, 2019 8:28am
Lee C

https://youtu.be/Vlqyj_uyzBc
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November 11, 2019 1:39pm
- stephieboy
  
  Lee C,
  
  The war against science-based medicine ,
  
  Antivaccine hero Andrew Wakefield: Scientific fraud?
  
  Pity poor Andrew Wakefield.
  
  “Actually, on second thought, Wakefield deserves no pity at all. After all, he is the man who almost single-handedly launched the scare over the MMR vaccine in Britain when he published his infamous Lancet paper in 1998 in which he claimed to have linked the MMR vaccine to regressive autism and inflammation of the colon, a study that was followed up four years later with a paper that claimed to have found the strain of attenuated measles virus in the MMR in the colons of autistic children by polymerase chain reaction (PCR). It would be one thing if these studies were sound science. If that were the case, then Wakefield’s work would have been very important and would have correctly cast doubt on the safety of the MMR. Unfortunately, they were not, and, indeed, most of the authors of the 1998 Lancet paper later withdrew their names from it….”
  
  https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/antivaccine-hero-andrew-wakefield-scientific-fraud/
  
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  November 11, 2019 2:21pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Anti-vaxxer rubbish.
  
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  November 11, 2019 3:52pm
- Pharmachick
  
  Oi!
  
  first of all, he is not Dr. Wakefield any longer as he has been struck off. So “Dr Wakefield” is factually incorrect, and an insult to all the real doctors of medicine and philosophy etc out there.
  
  What are you thinking linking to dangerous propaganda that is KILLING CHILDREN? Let it be on your conscience every single person you personally convert with your link nonsense could kill a child.
  
  STOP IT
  
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  November 11, 2019 4:11pm
lifesgood

I saw a photo on Twitter today of Scott Morrison giving a comforting hug to a distressed old man who had lost his home in the bush fires. Do you think he will be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for that?
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November 11, 2019 2:07pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Was he wearing a headscarf?
  
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  November 11, 2019 4:06pm
- Michael
  
  He’ll have done more than Obama when he was nominated!
  
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  November 11, 2019 4:11pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Dear Aucklanders,

Please refrain from flushing after rain
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12284100
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November 11, 2019 2:26pm
- rangitoto
  
  Must be all those dairy farms in Auckland.
  
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  November 11, 2019 2:54pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Actually, I reckon this is all bullshit. There is a river that flows out of Johannesburg (the Jukskei) that has some informal settlements ( squatter camps) along its banks. The river is used to shit in, wash in and as a supply of drinking and cooking water. All the road runoff from central Johannesburg flows into this cesspit of a river. And as far as I know, people still live there, and somehow stay alive….. Maybe they just make Saffa tougher (ask the English Rugby Team)….
  
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  November 11, 2019 7:41pm
Nickc2

Remember all that money the Auckland Council allocated to a homosexual fisting festival? How many sewer lines would that have fixed?
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November 11, 2019 2:35pm
- Batman
  
  While I certainly don’t agree with taxpayer funding for a fisting event, it should be noted that event wasn’t funded directly but was a sub-event which was under the umbrella of the main festival.
  
  Still bloody hilarious though ????
  
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  November 11, 2019 2:53pm
Hugh Pavletich

CHINA …

How Bad Is China’s Debt? A City Hospital Is Asking Nurses for Loans … Alexandra Stevens and Cao Li … The New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/10/business/china-debt-hospitals.html

RUZHOU, China — When the call came for local doctors and nurses to step up for their troubled community, the emergency wasn’t medical. It was financial.

Ruzhou, a city of one million people in central China, urgently needed a new hospital, their bosses said. To pay for it, the administrators were asking health care workers for loans. If employees didn’t have the money, they were pointed to banks where they could borrow it and then turn it over to the hospital.

China’s doctors and nurses are paid a small fraction of what medical professionals make in the United States. On message boards online and in the local media, many complained that they felt pressured to pony up thousands of dollars they could not afford to give. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Look Within for China’s True Growth Threat … Christopher Balding … Bloomberg

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-11-09/china-s-demand-threatens-global-growth-more-than-trade-war

China is going ex-growth … David Llewellyn – Smith … MacroBusiness Australia

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/11/china-is-going-ex-growth-2/
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November 11, 2019 2:44pm
Maggie Pie

ME: “Do you have any books about Turtles?”

GIRL IN PAPER-PLUS: “Hard back?”

ME: ” Yeah, with little heads”

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November 11, 2019 2:47pm
- JibberJabber
  
  Why there aren`t as many Female comedians as there are Male,
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=112&v=-I3qREbKqLw&feature=emb_logo
  
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  November 11, 2019 3:42pm
  - sooty
    
    Because they don’t want to look as stupid as Guy Williams!
    
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    November 11, 2019 4:18pm
- chaos
  
  Little heads? Must be the cold oceans
  
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  November 11, 2019 4:10pm
Nostradamus

Brisbane mum Renee Dikeni ditches car and embraces bike transport ‘for the environment’

Most of us reach for the car keys every day, but could you ditch the car to make way for your bike for 365 days and still get to work, get the kids to sport and pick up the groceries? Grade One school teacher Renee Dikeni plans to survive a year without using a motor vehicle.
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“Being a teacher, I’m just waiting for the report cards to be done and busyness to subside and then I have a six-week holiday to figure out how it’s all going to work and I’ll hit the ground riding. “The rule is no car. Public transport and bikes only — no Ubers and no taxis.”

She needs a six-week holiday to figure out how it’s all going to work?!
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November 11, 2019 3:19pm
- sooty
  
  Give them all a hop card and get one of them granny shopping trollies for shopping and give up kids sport!
  
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  November 11, 2019 4:17pm
- MCos
  
  It’s interesting how many more things become ‘indispensable’ as the years go by and how much shit people get if they choose to live without stuff which, in some cases, didn’t even exist maybe thirty years ago.
  When I first went flatting with three other guys in Wellington in 1967 none of us had a car. We didn’t have a TV, microwave, automatic washing machine, shower. Our phone was on a party line because it was cheap.
  Years before office buildings were designed so everyone could sit by a window. As a result I worked in one or two places where a power outage didn’t necessarily mean an interruption to production.
  
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  November 11, 2019 4:21pm
chaos

Let’s not move down a path where police can do this without a warrant.

* Wide police powers are being considered to prevent dangerous people from having firearms, being in a home that has firearms, or being in the company of people with firearms.

Those powers might also enable police to search a certain property and confiscate firearms without a warrant.*

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12284181
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November 11, 2019 3:57pm
- sooty
  
  What a big black SUV will roll up and kick your doors down!
  
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  November 11, 2019 4:15pm
chaos

Sad and disgusting that people would even do this.

* A scorching new documentary has revealed how thousands of UK children are being sexually abused by gangs to smuggle drugs.

The Channel 4 production, Britain’s Child Drug Runners, exposes how children as young as seven have drugs inserted inside them to traffic and sell Class A drugs like cocaine.*

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2019/11/disgusting-new-doco-exposes-how-uk-children-are-used-to-smuggle-drugs.html
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November 11, 2019 4:02pm
Happychappy

It looks and sounds like the Coalition with the help of the police will make a law on who is allowed guns after asking for consultations from the public on what their thoughts are first, Nash was asked what they thought and answered they have a preference but will not release details until they hear the public’s view.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12284181
Beware this is a decision to take firearms off people that have expressed the view against different laws and people before that have had a mental health issues without violence, Nash is a A grade arsole that I would never trust.
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November 11, 2019 4:30pm
Jack5

Jacinderella and police minister Nash are suggesting police be empowered to issue prohibition orders blocking people from living at, visiting a property or being in a vehicle where firearms are held.

They may have gangs in mind as targets. But the orders wouldn’t hamper gangs, beefed up as they are with tough deportees from Australia, from having guns.

The orders would give the police more power to harass law-abiding shooting enthusiasts, farmers, and hunters.

We have a national police chief who, at best can be described as luke warm on the right of freedom of speech, and our Lefties want to increase the force’s power over citizens?

If only Seymour hadn’t choked in the vote on firearms regulations after the mosques massacres, this, at the next general election, might have sent ACT galloping to meaningful coalition partner strength.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/403016/govt-wants-to-limit-firearms-access-for-those-deemed-high-risk
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November 11, 2019 4:33pm
- cut n paster
  
  Am I high risk?
  I quite like that title, how much will that licence cost? Who takes the test? Do they tell you when you pass?
  Or does a Police constable need to say “Dangerous” three times over the RT, for the right amount of risk to materialize.
  The higher the risk the greater the return….FIRE
  
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  November 11, 2019 4:54pm
Jack5

Trouble in Hong Kong today.

Transport disrupted and a protester is hit by a live round fired by the police. One train has been set on fire.

Another protester died on Friday from injuries suffered when he fell from a car-park building during a police operation.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3037135/shots-fired-hong-kong-anti-government-protesters-cause
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November 11, 2019 4:43pm
- DigNap15
  
  I wonder how long before China sends in the army.
  Those people and their spokesmen are very brave.
  
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  November 11, 2019 5:44pm
Happychappy

This afternoon in there stand up to the media Jacinda and Stuart Nash said the National remit wanting gangs guns being taken off them did not go far enough hence there asking for the Publics consultation.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/11/government-considers-national-s-bid-to-give-police-greater-powers-over-gun-control.html
So now we a have a media outlet saying that Government considers National’s bid to give police greater powers over Gun Control. This is Labour trying to distance themselves from what is actually their bid to blame others for what they will implement.
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November 11, 2019 5:22pm
chaos

And Shane Jones isn’t the minister, who would of guessed it would be these guys

* Newshub can reveal public officials have been attempting to access websites with content such as live sex chats, bondage and smelly sock fetishes.

Department of Conservation staff have been blocked from accessing pornography websites 148 times since January 29, with 51,000 attempts to access other blocked sites between July 31 and August 30.

Documents obtained by Newshub under the Official Information Act show of the 148 blocked porn sites, 54 were classified as referrals and 94 were direct access requests. *

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/11/live-sex-chats-bondage-and-smelly-sock-fetishes-the-websites-public-officials-attempt-to-access.html
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November 11, 2019 6:27pm
- sooty
  
  Calling Matt Nippert, calling Matt Nippert!
  You’re slipping ducky, best you pull finget!
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:47pm
Fletch

I’ve just seen a TV ad for the Seven Sharp programme tonight, and it has these school kids removing straws from cardboard cartons of Fonterra milk and looking very smug and pleased with themselves. God, this stuff makes me mad. Self righteous little prats who think they’re saving the world or something. I blame the adults for pushing this sort of shit. I’m just sick of it. It’s not even funny any more. It’s virtue signaling of the highest order, “look at us! We started a campaign to remove straws! Aren’t we swell! Look at how righteous and moral we are!” While at the same time babies are being aborted and it’s just considered to be “healthcare” and ignored.

It’s like the verse in the Bible, “Blind guides! You strain your water so you won’t accidentally swallow a gnat, but you swallow a camel!”

Society is so concerned with things that don’t really matter while being accepting of the immorality all around them.
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November 11, 2019 6:36pm
- chaos
  
  Some in society are so concerned with trying to tell others what they can and can’t do with their body.
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:32pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Seven Sharp? Who watches that shit?
  
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  November 11, 2019 9:10pm
Happychappy

So Winston Peter’s bleats to farmers he is the one that helps them and now we find out Simon Bridges quest for the farmers to be left out of the emissions scheme in his dealings with James Shaw was stopped by Winston Peter’s when the Green Leader wanted make farmers exempt.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/117328000/nz-first-kept-methane-target-from-exiting-zero-carbon-bill
Now this again is another example of the blatant lies Peter’s tells farmers and the voter.
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November 11, 2019 6:38pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  His name is PETERS. NO APOSTROPHE!
  
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  November 11, 2019 9:37pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/117337397/free-epipens-to-go-towards-thousands-of-atrisk-new-zealanders

What is the bet that Jacinda will claim the kudos for this ?
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November 11, 2019 6:41pm
Happychappy

Jacinda Ardern has doubts over Vernon Tavas sustainable Party.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/11/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-throws-doubt-on-vernon-tava-s-sustainable-nz.html
If the Prime Minister was not worried about the new Party why did she take time to slag them.
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November 11, 2019 6:52pm
stephieboy

Before the 11th recedes from us as the year races on a fitting way to remember the era is with these lines from a poem,

“If I should die, think only this of me: That there’s some corner of a foreign field That is for ever England.”

“In April 1915, Britain mourned when poet and national hero Rupert Brooke died on a troopship in the Dardanelles during World War One. Often compared to a Greek god because of his blond good looks, Brooke had written a series of famous sonnets that reflected the optimistic mood at the beginning of a conflict that would claim tens of millions of lives. Simon Watts introduces the memories of three of Brooke’s friends, as recorded in the BBC archives…’

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3csyx1s

He found his final resting place on the Greek Isle of Skyros of a land whose classical history and literature he loved ,

https://www.rupertbrookeonskyros.com
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November 11, 2019 6:57pm
RW Capitalist

I see they want to move Auckland port to North Port.
Going on about “ugly boxes” and car yards etc.
To be replaced by a stadium perhaps.
Haven’t told anyone, that half the population on NZ live within 2 hrs of Auckland.
If you move the port to Northland, all goods will take an extra day to get to half the population of NZ and will cost significantly more to transport.
Please spell this ridiculous idea as….INFLATION.
Also, what makes them think that, to access this population % easier than from Northland, the shipping companies will just go to Tauranga?
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November 11, 2019 6:59pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Moving Auckland Port to North Port makes as much sense as moving Wellington Airport to Eketahuna.
  
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  November 11, 2019 9:13pm
chaos

Cyclist shows what an asshole he is

* An aggressive cyclist on an Auckland train has caused an uproar after he laid down on four priority seats, preventing a mum and baby from having a seat.

On Wednesday passenger Stuart Dawson boarded the Onehunga line to the CBD at 7.18am, but when he got on the packed train he came across a cyclist having a sleep across four seats.

At the very next station a mother with her baby and pram boarded the train and had nowhere to sit.

Dawson managed to discreetly get the train manager’s attention and point him to the situation unfolding.*

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12283150
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November 11, 2019 7:05pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  This is a cyclist on a train with his bike lying beside him
  On the road they’re even worse. Aggressive pricks.
  
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  November 11, 2019 9:14pm
- krazykiwi
  
  1. Arshole – Yes.
  
  2. Typical cyclist – No.
  
  3. Is it more common for a non-cyclist be be an asshole like this – Yes (I have a track record of asking passengers to stand up if I see this happening)
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:23pm
chaos

Jacinda sounds worried, and so she should be. We have seen a few articles recently that green members aren’t happy with what their party is doing. There is a place in our politics for a true Green Party, not the joke social engineering party we currently have called the greens. This party will take votes from the greens and labour.

* Jacinda Ardern has hit out at the newest political party Sustainable New Zealand, saying the Government is already catering to the environmental needs it’s offering.

“I do believe that environmental matters are a huge focus for this Government and I don’t see that there’s necessarily a space that [Sustainable NZ] need to fill,” the Prime Minister said Monday.

Sustainable NZ, launched on Sunday by former Green Party member Vernon Tava, promises to boost environmental conversation fundin*

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/11/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-throws-doubt-on-vernon-tava-s-sustainable-nz.html
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November 11, 2019 7:10pm
wreck1080

Why are people such pussies these days?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12283150

If it were me, i’d have gone nuclear on this dickhead.
At minimum, they should have called the police to meet the train at the next stop and trespass this cyclist for a year.

Now, everyone knows you can do what you want on auckland trains , you just need to get aggro.

Typical behaviour from a cyclist though. Those wannabe olympic cyclists are absolute dicks on the road, and now it seems they are just as bad off road too.
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November 11, 2019 7:22pm
- sooty
  
  Give the gaurds tazars. That’ll fix um!
  
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  November 11, 2019 8:43pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Typical behaviour from a cyclist though.
  
  Typical. Yawn. I’m glad you’re not a typical driver.
  
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  November 11, 2019 10:20pm
rightoverlabour

What is it with Nethandrals and chopping trees down? It is a disgrace that the Auckland council have allowed these fascists to rape and pillage these beautiful parks. Fuck them.
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