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Sir Cullen's Sidekick

I am eagerly waiting for the presidential debates!!
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August 28, 2020 9:43pm
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  It’ll be a blood bath, if they actually happen. No doubt some excuse will be found to call them off.
  
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  August 29, 2020 7:33am
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    Biden will miss the debate, and be found arguing in a corner with a pot plant!
    
    The Media will call it a master stroke and cede him as having won.
    
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    August 29, 2020 8:54am
    - The Proper Ghandi
      
      Or he’ll place a pair of underpants on his head, stick a couple of pencils up his nose and say … wibble.
      
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      August 29, 2020 10:43am
      - Loddenthinks
        
        A wand’ring minstrel I….
        
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        August 30, 2020 9:02pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  How can there be a debate with Biden? No wonder there are problems with government in the world when socialists offer incompetents as leaders.
  The moneyed classes are laughing all the way to their bank, the workers get driven into the ground and the political rulers enjoy the fruits of power.
  What ‘s the price of lawnmowers now?
  
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  August 29, 2020 8:33am
  - DLC
    
    I have no doubts that if and when Biden does appear the questions will somehow “mysteriously” appear on his podium like they did with Clinton!!
    
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    August 29, 2020 3:10pm
- Philview
  
  Pelosi was in the news yesterday saying that Biden should skip the debates. Biden was making noises about doing the debates on something like Zoom. The Republicans are concerned that in a Zoom type debate Biden can be spoon fed what to say.
  
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  August 29, 2020 12:28pm
The Proper Ghandi

Pretty good speech, imo. Not the same insurgent energy as in 2016, but you would expect that from an incumbent.

Trump hammered the Democrat’s policies and there implications. He pointed out his successes in halving legal immigration and heavily restricting illegal entries. He advocated for a strong and respected police force, while pointedly criticising the criminal radicals, subversives, rioters and looters who have been at it for 90-odd days (I think his strategy may well be to let them do their thing as an effectively resonant and visceral anti-Democrat election campaign strategy, keeping the blame for the civil disruption largely in the hands of the Democrat governors and mayors, before clamping down with greater force in the final month or so before November 3).

Trump was as usual extremely patriotic and nationalistic, in complete and stark contrast to the anti-American Democrats, putting great stead in the historical American people and their pioneering efforts. The symbolism, pomp and pageantry (for instance the flags, the White House setting, the enthusiastic live crowd in attendance, his beautiful family on hand in support, and the impressive fireworks display – giving a middle finger to the Washington liberals who could not have avoided it) all added up to an event that absolutely eclipsed and wiped the floor with the Democrat’s recent efforts.
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August 28, 2020 9:48pm
- old skool reactionary
  
  Trump needs to go hammer and tong on Dem #BLM commie riots and be the leader who stands for Law and Order.
  
  White support for #BLM has collapsed now it is obvious they are violent murderous commies cheerlead by the Dems.
  
  Things are looking up for Trump!
  
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  August 29, 2020 7:54am
  - The Proper Ghandi
    
    Yes, BLM are mostly Marxists, but the more concerning and pertinent feature of the group is their rampant, militant, and explicit anti-white rhetoric.
    
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    August 29, 2020 9:18am
    - Brian Marshall
      
      The other night a 17 year old militia volunteer who went out to protect businesses and help anyone injured, was attacked. He shot 3 people attacking him, 2 of whom have died. It appears that all 3 have a serious of convictions for violent offences. It seems that the BLM: Antifa lot are heavily infested with criminals.
      
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      August 29, 2020 10:50am
      - Critical Thinker
        
        Speaking of Antifa.
        Checkout their website: ?
        http://antifa.com
        ?
        
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        August 29, 2020 2:20pm
Don Beckett

Watched some of it. Quite inspirational.
He’s right, that if Biden wins the presidency, America as we know it is over. But with Trump America will thrive, as it has done thus far under his presidency, despite a media campaign that few people could withstand.
You don’t have to like the guy, but the USA is a better place because of him and his Republican team.
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August 28, 2020 10:12pm
- MikePm
  
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  You have to be fucking kidding me. He sounds like he’s had a few – slurring, hair waving around like a fucking carpet sample blowing in the breeze.
  
  I’m no Biden fan – he’s as hopeless as Hilary. Nonetheless this isn’t a battle where you choose sides. Trump is obviously a complete and total disaster. If Obama did anything like he has done, acted the way Trump has, you bastards would be up in arms.
  
  America is lost, it’s power descendant rather than ascendant.
  
  Trump is a gross caricature of a failing state. Stupid, ignorant, crass, dishonest… it’s as if early 1990’s Wall Street became a person.
  
  No right-thinking person could ever vote Trump. I wouldn’t want Biden either. But fucking Trump? Seriously?
  
  What a sorry fucking state of affairs.
  
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  August 28, 2020 11:10pm
  - The Proper Ghandi
    
    Relax mate.
    
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    August 29, 2020 7:34am
  - JibberJabber
    
    LoL @ the tears of impotent rage
    
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    August 29, 2020 7:34am
  - tf78
    
    MikePm – I’d hate to live in a world without President Trump- you want socialism boy you won’t know what hit you. Good luck with that, but it’s certainly not a world I want to live in.
    
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    August 29, 2020 7:45am
  - Steve
    
    Sad to see someone so fooled by the msm. If you check the FACTS of President Trump’s achievements you will see he has done more for the people in under four years than his predecessors achieved “for the people” in fifty years.
    
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    August 29, 2020 7:49am
  - old skool reactionary
    
    No, you Globalists destroyed America – endless wars, corporate financial looting, destroying white working class, mass immigration from the 3rd World, attacking White culture and history, race and gender quotas, No Fault divorce and gay marriage liberalization, unaffordable housing,
    
    Thanls a lot Boomers.
    
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    August 29, 2020 7:59am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Lots of factors there, but mainly no-fault divorce, huh?
      
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      August 29, 2020 9:08am
      - gump
        
        They capitalised it, so it is obviously very important to them.
        
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        August 29, 2020 7:52pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Huh? How did no fault divorce and gay liberalisation harm the economy?
      
      As long as I don’t have to pay for people’s divorces, I don’t care. Though personally I try to only make promises I can keep.
      
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      August 29, 2020 9:25am
  - calendar girl
    
    I don’t understand why such crude language (i.e. MikePm at 11.10pm) is tolerated on DPF’s Kiwiblog.
    
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    August 29, 2020 2:08pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      *clutches pearls*
      
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      August 29, 2020 3:13pm
- krazykiwi
  
  “You don’t have to like the guy”
  
  If I wanted to have a beer and watch a game, I’d choose Biden. Affable company, where Trump is boorish and egotistical.
  
  If I wanted to have someone run my country, I’d choose Trump. A proven record and administration, where Biden is dodgy and delivered nothing over 40 years.
  
  Horses for courses.
  
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  August 29, 2020 7:13am
  - Inandout
    
    krazy, Joe would have to be reminded by you where he is and what you were watching. Behind the scenes he is just another corrupt politician with a really dodgy son.
    
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    August 29, 2020 7:57am
  - old skool reactionary
    
    Biden delivered big time to Globalism, outsourced American jobs to the 3rd World, welcomed the 3rd World in. Got rich doing it.
    
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    August 29, 2020 8:01am
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    I wouldn’t, he’d creep onto the kids, start an incoherent argument, then he’d grope the wife, and demand a cheque and a Board role for his grifter son on the way out.
    
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    August 29, 2020 8:56am
- DigNap15
  
  Well said Don
  He has done all the despite the MSM and the celebrities all being against him
  
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  August 29, 2020 12:53pm
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Biden is NOT a socialist. Trump is mistaken. He would be a logical and dependable President.
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August 28, 2020 10:28pm
- Crisplion
  
  He’d be president for about five minutes before being declared incompetent due to advancing senility, whereupon his woke VP would take over and further enable the assault by the extreme left on America’s cities, monuments and democratic values.
  
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  August 29, 2020 7:39am
- wimpston peeeders
  
  for about 6mnths untill kamala takes over
  
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  August 29, 2020 7:44am
- lifesgood
  
  Fisani lefties be lefties. Lol.
  
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  August 29, 2020 7:45am
  - Tall Man
    
    And fools be fools.
    
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    August 29, 2020 8:52am
- Steve
  
  Spoken by somebody who has probably never had a job. President Trump looks after the workers and their families while Democrats simply line their pockets, just like Labour and the Greens.
  Joe Biden is one of the most corrupt politicians in American history and that’s saying something.
  
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  August 29, 2020 7:53am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Thing is, Biden has been doing it so long he thinks it is normal. Same with the likes of Pelosi, Sanders, Obama, Clinton etc. How do you get a net worth of $96M on a salary of $400000?
    
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    August 29, 2020 9:37am
- David George
  
  Uncle Joe Biden is the non threatening Trojan Horse for a mad house of justice warriors, end of times climate nutters, wet wokeists and deranged socialists. I’d be voting for Trump – way more sane.
  
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  August 29, 2020 8:07am
  - rockape
    
    More rocking horse or crazy horse than Trojan horse.
    
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    August 29, 2020 10:28am
- peterwn
  
  Just had an email from an inlaw-inlaw in USA. He does not like Trump but thinks Biden is reasonable. However he thinks Republican policies are reasonable while Democrat policies are heading towards being loony left (ie the opposite of the Labour Party situation in NZ – a once reasonable party but the leader wants to take it towards the loony left). So he will vote Trump and the Republicans.
  
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  August 29, 2020 8:15am
Nukuleka

As I type this there is a banner advertisement at the top of the post that reads THANK MICHELLE OBAMA. It is sponsored by an organisation called STOP REPUBLICANS.

How on earth does this happen on a NEW ZEALAND blog?

I’d much prefer one that read STOP SLEEPY DEMENTED OLD JOE.

Trump #2020
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August 28, 2020 10:40pm
Chinarugby

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Also took time to watch.

This man is a deluded, insincere, immoral person.

A shell of a human being.

That he can lie and distort at will and without any sense of shame is just an awful thing to see.

Just irredeemably awful.

Trumps America – what is that?

A country at war with itself cheered on by a dictator wananbe.

How anyone with any objectivity can be pleased by the actions of this degenerate is beyond common sense.
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August 28, 2020 11:38pm
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  How did you get hold of these CNN bullet points?
  
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  August 29, 2020 7:36am
- Steve
  
  Chinarugby? Is this Hilary Clinton?
  
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  August 29, 2020 7:56am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Can you provide an example of a lie? I’ll wait
  
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  August 29, 2020 9:08am
Rich Prick

Hate him as much as the left do, he’s not sniffing young girls nor hiding in his basement. Nor gabbing dementia word salads. Were it not for COVID-19, leftists rioting, looting and murdering in Democrat cities, Trump would have an awesome record. Fucking Democrats.
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August 29, 2020 12:21am
Ticket To Ride

How anybody could prefer to watch Biden over this is impossible to understand.

As Don says, “He’s right, that if Biden wins the presidency, America as we know it is over.” But not only America, but the whole world. Under Biden, Iran will go nuclear. With any issue, China, Iran and North Korea will thumb their noses at Biden and say “What ya gonna do about it?” And Biden will cave every time. And Russia will go anti. That twerp Bill Clinton had a perfect opportunity to make Russia a firm ally in the 1990’s, but did nothing and let Yeltsin flounder – Bill was too busy with Monica. We cannot afford Russia to be an enemy that viscerally hates us.

This is one of the most critical American elections ever, probably the most critical.
Trump may have some flaws, but he is a hell of a lot better than the alternative, which will truly be an utter disaster.
Those who want Ardern out here, yet want Trump out there suffer a serious case of cognitive dissonance.
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August 29, 2020 1:30am
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  I’d replace Ardern (or any other NZ politician for that matter, perhaps except Seymour) for Trump in a heart beat. He’s rough around the edges, but his zealous detractors seem to want a polished turd instead of a rough diamond.
  
  Ultimately, the reason there is a constant campaign to undermine him is because he loves America and his enemies don’t. They hate nation states, and want a global political system.
  
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  August 29, 2020 7:42am
- tf78
  
  Ticket – Well said!
  
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  August 29, 2020 7:48am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  There is a lot of respect between Trump and Putin. They would like to have more but the warmongers will not let them an both sides. Putin is not the baddie that the MSM say
  
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  August 29, 2020 9:11am
tas

Pro tip: If you have two teleprompters – one on each side – and keep switching back and forth, then people won’t notice how much you’re relying on them.
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August 29, 2020 5:04am
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  Good, insightful take away. I’ll pass that pro advice on to Donald, from … who are you again?
  
  Of course they all use teleprompters these days, including your boy Biden, and not to mention his boss Obama. This is not too different from the paper notes they all used to use, so I don’t know what your point is supposed to be. JFK always read important speeches from notes, for instance.
  
  The teleprompter actually constrains Trump’s natural ability to take an audience along with him. Trump won in 2016 in large part, not for his teleprompter skills, but for his off-the-cuff oratory, and the affinity he has with people. He’d give 90 minute speeches on the fly and could actually engaged with his supporters. I’ve never seen anyone else in recent years do this, particularly the virtually non compos mentis hollow man Joe Biden.
  
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  August 29, 2020 7:31am
  - Fletch
    
    Here’s Obama without a teleprompter…
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU
    
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    August 29, 2020 11:01am
    - Brian Marshall
      
      I’ve referred to Former President Obama as the ‘teleprompter in chief’ before. He really is a great orator when he has a teleprompter. Otherwise he’s ‘all hat’ as the Texans say.
      
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      August 29, 2020 12:34pm
  - tas
    
    It’s a pro tip from Trump to us all.
    
    Trump is barely coherent without a teleprompter. He rambles on and doesn’t finish half his sentences.
    
    …and then Trump attacks Biden’s oratory.
    
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    August 29, 2020 12:12pm
- wimpston peeeders
  
  sweet, you remember that next time youre addressing 300mil ppl on live tv.
  
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  August 29, 2020 7:47am
- Nukuleka
  
  Your point being? Are you seriously suggesting that you would expect a political figure to deliver an hour long prepared speech from memory? What planet are you on?
  
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  August 29, 2020 8:09am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Jaspinda can. She will not give you anything but she can easily waffle for 60 minutes
    
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    August 29, 2020 9:13am
  - tas
    
    The point is that Trump’s supporters make fun of Biden using a teleprompter, but he uses two!
    
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    August 29, 2020 10:43am
    - Fletch
      
      Every speech is set up with two teleprompters, one on each side. So the politician can look left and right and it now be obvious he is reading….
      
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      August 29, 2020 11:02am
    - septic skeptic
      
      Joe had three but he forgot where the other two were. They switched on him!
      
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      August 29, 2020 11:26am
    - The Proper Ghandi
      
      I’ve never heard of anyone making fun of Biden for using a teleprompter, just his senility.
      
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      August 29, 2020 11:29am
      - Batman
        
        Given how Melania and Donald look when using promoters, it’s thin ice to try and go after Biden on it, so fair enough.
        
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        August 29, 2020 12:05pm
    - Critical Thinker
      
      You do realise that it’s very common for 2 teleprompters to be used right? ?
      
      Here’s Joe “Dementia” Biden 4 years ago for example:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf8BHFGqlQo
      
      Please check your tedious TDS tas ?
      
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      August 29, 2020 11:35am
      - tas
        
        Trump and Biden both have dementia. Whoever wins will be the oldest president ever.
        
        My point is simply that every criticism of Biden’s mental faculties is doubly true for Trump.
        
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        August 29, 2020 12:16pm
      - Critical Thinker
        
        @tas
        Well it’s good to know that you recognise the fact that Biden has Dementia.
        
        Trump on the other hand recently passed a Dementia test, proving that he in fact doesn’t have it ?
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2OZpH8bVcE
        
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        August 29, 2020 1:06pm
- Tall Man
  
  Or be like cindy and stick an earpiece in and hide it with your hair 🙂
  
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  August 29, 2020 8:53am
- rouppe
  
  When I watched a snippet of Bidens speech, he was staring fixedly at the teleprompter. He read the whole thing.
  
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  August 29, 2020 11:01am
JibberJabber

https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/08/26/dem-womans-heartbreaking-call-to-c-span-about-riots-explains-why-trump-is-going-to-win/
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August 29, 2020 7:36am
Simon

Trump will win. That is all.
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August 29, 2020 7:37am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Trump 2020 landslide will be yuge
  
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  August 29, 2020 9:14am
Steve

And here’s a reporter showing President Trump some respect. Unusual these days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i-VhfSxuM0
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August 29, 2020 7:44am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  OANN is in a different league than CNN and MSNBC – Acosta and Madcow.
  Check OAN Final Point with Liz Wheeler – she calls them all out
  
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  August 29, 2020 9:42am
JibberJabber

Only 26 seconds for Democrat fans and their short attention span.

https://twitter.com/BlackVoices4DJT/status/1299408667163463680
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August 29, 2020 7:47am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Sorry meant uptick
  
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  August 29, 2020 12:45pm
Milhous

Wow!

Low low energy . It’s almost as if he’s given up.
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August 29, 2020 7:54am
mikenmildagain

What a litany of bullshit. Here is just a selection, possibly not even the most egregious.

On Covid, he said he is:

“delivering life-saving therapies and will produce a vaccine before the end of the year or maybe even sooner.”

There are no life-saving therapies. Where some treatments have been successful, Trump had no role. Convalescent plasma will not “save thousands of lives,” while no one really expects a vaccine by the end of the year.

Trump claimed the election would decide

“whether we save the American dream or whether we allow a socialist agenda to demolish our cherished destiny.”

Biden is, of course, no socialist.

Trump boasted of withdrawing from the “job-killing” Trans-Pacific Partnership (which, in fact, would have increased jobs and provided a multinational check to Chinese expansion for which he blames Biden.

He also touted his withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal, the consequence of which has been the resumption of Iran’s nuclear activity.

Trump claimed to have:

“done more for the African American community than any president since Abraham Lincoln”

This ignores Truman integrating military, let alone Johnson passing the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.

Trump claimed that Biden:

“has promised to abolish the production of American oil, coal, shale, and natural gas.”

Not even the most extreme Green New Deal advocates have gone this far.

etc, etc
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August 29, 2020 8:03am
- BeeJay
  
  Thanks Mike, it’s great to hear some commonsense comment following all the Trumpers spouting their usual rhetoric! If Trump wins the US is far from being saved! Four more years of the moron Trump will only prove the point that he will have screwed Americans, not saved them! The worst president ever! I agree that Joe is not the greatest but he’s certainly a better option than crazy Trump!
  
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  August 29, 2020 9:27am
- Simon
  
  Lol – ok Russian truther.
  
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  August 29, 2020 9:32am
- Critical Thinker
  
  – Trump recently approved the use of Convalescent Plasma. Which has been shown to help decrease the mortality rate by 35%. And he has continually pointed out that HCQ decreases the mortality rate by a huge amount. Which has been continually proven by the vast majority of studies:
  https://c19study.com/#early
  
  That is one of the reasons why the fatality rate with COVID in the US is far less than the EU (US 3.1% vs EU 7.8%):
  https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&country=USA~EuropeanUnion&cfrMetric=true&interval=total&aligned=true&hideControls=true&smoothing=0&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc
  
  – Most of the Democrat party has swung to the far left. This is obvious and undeniable. Biden and Harris have proven track records of pandering to the far left. Be it open borders, Green New Deal, BLM/Antifa rioters, Cultural Marxism, Cancel Culture etc.
  
  – Biden opposes the TPP as well.
  
  – Obama & Biden gave billions of dollars to the terrorist state of Iran.
  
  – African Americans achieved record employment and wages under Trump. He also signed an historic criminal justice reform long-sought by the black community. And many more initiatives.
  
  – Biden has promised to ban “new oil and gas permitting on public lands and waters.”
  https://youtu.be/MOCJvjv7Fqk?t=14
  
  ???
  
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  August 29, 2020 10:09am
- Fletch
  
  To take but one of your examples – the Civil Rights Act. Yes, it was passed by a Democrat president but only because of Republican intervention. The Democrats filibustered the Civil Rights bill (as it was then) for 57 days, and it took Republican Senator Everett Dirksen to go around and get votes – cajoling, cashing in on past favours, etc etc to get it through and break the filibuster. Even Time magazine acknowledged the passing of the bill was due to him, featuring him on the cover in July, 1964, and saying, “it is Dirksen’s bill, bearing his handiwork more than anyone else’s.”
  
  Cover – http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19640619,00.html
  
  https://npg.si.edu/blog/everett-dirksen-forgotten-civil-rights-champion
  
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  August 29, 2020 11:10am
  - Batman
    
    Fletch why are you so obsessed with this historical nonsense about who passed what and gets credit?
    
    The only rational explanation is that the Republican party has been so morally bankrupt for the last 30 years that the 1960s is the last time they really did anything socially useful. You know it but can’t admit it.
    
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    August 29, 2020 12:00pm
- Chinarugby
  
  Fantastic comments – cheers.
  
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  August 29, 2020 11:37pm
Chuck Bird

The Dow is less than a 1000 off its record high in February this year.

A week or two ago I bet $300 on SportsBet Aust that trump would win. I was be paid $2.20. This morning they are paying $2.00.

The gap is closing quickly.
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August 29, 2020 8:08am
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  Trump is basically Iron Man. Most, lesser men, would have crumbled within the first six months of the ongoing soft coup. The harder they try, the stronger he gets.
  
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  August 29, 2020 8:17am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The Dow will break 30000 very soon – before Nov 3rd. Good recovery in such a short time
  
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  August 29, 2020 9:21am
- IC5000
  
  > The Dow is less than a 1000 off its record high in February this year
  
  It’s pretty much a meaningless indicator. If you look at the composition they switch out the badly performing companies like Exxon (Going from $70 to $40 since March). Companies like Apple are overweight in the index and their gains have allowed the index to appear at the same level. The Current index is not the same one you are referring to in March and so it has limited value as a tool of comparison. Obviously many here are going to deny this but that’s just indicative of an inability to confront economic reality.
  
  This is why Trump refers to the share market all the time as a metric for the economies health. It isn’t for those who don’t know better. It’s just a metric to be gamed which doesn’t reflect reality. Have a look at the retailers who are filing for bankruptcy to see how consumer sentiment really is doing.
  
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  August 29, 2020 12:19pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Tech companies here and in the US are the future The NZX is also at a record high.
    
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    August 29, 2020 1:53pm
    - IC5000
      
      That’s not the point you were making. You were using the index as a broad based indication of the health of the US economy. Now you’re shifting it to some Star Trek ‘tech is the future’ argument.
      
      My contention was that an indices which is overweight in tech stock that have been subject abnormal market gains is not indicative of the overall health of the economy because FANGS do not employ the majority of Americans. These companies and their revenues are global so their share prices is not solely predicated on the US economy. It’s a complex issue and it appears you don’t fully grasp it although not many people really do.
      
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      August 29, 2020 3:05pm
David George

The Herald “covered” the speech with the usual derogatory headline, a short selected clip and followed up with, of all things, a selection of comments from the twittersphere mad house. This is journalism as defined by the The NZ Herald.
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August 29, 2020 8:15am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Is the herald showing any news of those huge ‘boatillas?’
  Tell me again that Trump will not win
  
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  August 29, 2020 9:23am
peterwn

So petty minded people are complaining that he gave his acceptance speech from the White House (ie using Government property for political purposes). Some common sense is needed especially in difficult times. He would have preferred to give his speech at the main convention venue as is normal, but this convention is spread all over the place because of Covid.
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August 29, 2020 8:19am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Previous Presidents never gave speeches from The Whitehouse //
  
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  August 29, 2020 9:25am
  - peterwn
    
    These are unusual times. Donald would far rather have given his speech in a packed convention hall. Also using the White House is easier for the Secret Service and also helps the President with Covid isolation.
    
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    August 29, 2020 10:46am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      A packed convention and the MSM would have a field day, you would never hear the end of it
      
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      August 29, 2020 10:56am
- IC5000
  
  > Some common sense is needed especially in difficult times.
  
  Agree. Like mail voting.
  
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  August 29, 2020 4:57pm
Billy Collins

The clearest difference between Trump’s speech and Biden’s is that Biden spoke in platitudes, while Trump spoke with specifics. Biden couldn’t point any numbers or quotes (besides the “very fine people” lie), he was just saying he will solve everything. How? Doesn’t matter. Meanwhile Trump was pulling all the numbers, all the Biden quotes.
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August 29, 2020 8:28am
- Komata
  
  Billy C@0828.
  
  And with your comment you’ve effectively highlighted the difference between Biden and the President.
  
  Biden has NO policies except (ike all lefties) to raise taxes, and is running on a ‘Get Trump out’ ticket.
  
  The President, conversly is very specific about what he wants to do FOR America, and spells it out repeatedly, together with facts about his previous accomplishments to date.
  
  Platitudes and vague wafflings don’t win votes, whereas employment, an improved standard of living, and food on the table do. In such situations, I know whom I would vote for…
  
  The American people seem inclined towards similar sentiments…
  
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  August 29, 2020 9:25am
gravedodger

So lets pile on Trump and elect Biden??
Nec minit Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Gerry Nadler, Ocasio Cortez, Omar, Pressley, Tlaib and all their media cohorts pile out of the Trojan Horse Harris, selected as an electable replacement for a dementia suffering Potus under the 25th amendment. Goodbye America welcome to the Disunited Socialist States of West Atlantic.
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August 29, 2020 9:16am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Gee, lots of TDS trolls here today
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August 29, 2020 9:26am
Fisiani

I can understand posters here liking the Republican party principles but how can anyone like Trump. He is self obsessed and already proven that he is unable to cope with the job. Biden is nether demented nor sleepy and such jibes are cheap lies.
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August 29, 2020 9:28am
- Cinematic
  
  Why do you think people need to like Trump in order to vote for him?
  
  In difficult times people will vote for whomever they feel has their back and the ability to fight for them. Trump is a clear winner on both.
  
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  August 29, 2020 9:39am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Liking someone is quite different from respecting them
    
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    August 29, 2020 9:56am
- DigNap15
  
  Watch a few videos by people like Scott Baio
  Trump owns hotels as we all know.
  He often goes into to them and chats with the staff and takes an interest in their personal life!
  They love him
  
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  August 29, 2020 12:56pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    He even worked for a day with his staff. Room service, dog walking, cleaning toilets, making beds. The staff loved it
    
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    August 29, 2020 2:29pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Forgot – bellhop.
      
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      August 29, 2020 2:29pm
  - IC5000
    
    > Trump owns hotels as we all know.
    
    Hotels are split into two main operating units. The first is entity which actually owns the physical building and the second is the entity which operates and owns the brand. Trump is in the business of licensing his name to apartment and hotel business as a branding exercise. This enables him to appear to be more successful than he really is while not taking the risk and leaving his silent partners to competently complete projects so it’s a win-win. Given his track record of bankruptcy and stiffing his creditors maybe it for the best.
    
    If you look at his reputation 20 years ago he was such a joke to mainstream bankers they refused to Lend to him and he had to go to Deutsche Bank which was at the time a shitty regional operation who were so desperate for growth they’d take on any client.
    
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    August 29, 2020 3:18pm
beadgame

Trump is the worst President in modern history:
1. Trump has been a disaster on trade with approach that is corrupted by his personal interests
2. USMCA is marginally worse than NAFTA. Trump made zero deals of merit
3. Trump is willing to trade security for soybeans with China
4. Trump is willing to trade voting security for Congressional votes on Covid.
5. Trump belittles friend and foe and allies anytime anyone disagrees with him.
6. Trump is willing to use racial or ethnic slurs, for example calling Elizabeth Warren “Pocahontas”
7. Trump’s administrative sleaze and rolling staff appointments are unprecedented.
8. Trump demands loyalty over truth and competence.
9. Trump is the biggest narcissist ever
10. Trump lies incessantly and is quick to blame others for his own failings
11. Tump promotes alt-right conspiracy theories with no evidence to support
12. Trump fans the fires of racial hatred and injustice
13. Trump is being investigated for tax fraud and the charge is easy to believe
14. Trump has praise for dictators like Kim Jong Un in North Korea and Putin in Russia
15. Trump’s budget deficit is out of control and was even before Covid hit
16. Trump requested and received ridiculous amounts of military spending.
17. Trump-sponsored tax cuts that primarily benefited the wealthy
18. Trump has actively sought to undermine the integrity of US elections
19. Trump’s handling of Covid was abysmal
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- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Severe TDS.
  #3. I thought China played hardball, refusing tariffs, so the US soybeans went to Japan- which really pissed China off?
  #5. Just like Obama and Iran?
  #10. How about an example?
  #13. Untrue. The Dems just want his Tax Returns made public.
  #14. It is called ‘respect’ Showing respect gets respect, you do not have to like the person to show respect.
  #19. Untrue. He closed borders early, unlike Jaspinda.
  Now get back to the basement before your Mum finds out where you are
  
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  August 29, 2020 9:54am
  - beadgame
    
    I fully admit I have never thought Trump had the skills for the US Presidency.
    #3 – Hardly fair to call China’s rejection of Trump’s tariffs as playing hardball. Trump’s China strategy has been incoherent and destructive, unless viewed from the lens of what’s best for Trump, as opposed to what is best for the US and world.
    #5 – No, Obama was working to build trust with Iran – He achieved the nuclear deal, which was a big step in this direction. The intelligence community is in general agreement that Iran was abiding by the deal.
    #6 – if you need an example, you must not be from this planet.
    #13 – I support transparency of financial and tax affairs by our elected leaders, and this has been accepted practice in the US for some time. There are too many instances of corruption of leaders worldwide. I do recognize this has not been practice in NZ, but support changing this.
    #14 – Respect is something that is earned.
    #19 – But he only banned foreign travel from China, there were still lots of people freely bringing the virus into the US from China and Europe. Also, Her name is spelled Jacinda. Please show some respect.
    Amazing the lack of civility, and that people condone this…….
    
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    August 29, 2020 11:43am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Jesus H Christ, your TDS is overwhelming. You have no idea how money works.
      Btw, I will call the lying PTPM whatever I wish
      
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      August 29, 2020 12:32pm
    - tom hunter
      
      Amazing the lack of civility, and that people condone this…….
      
      The Liberal blogger Ann Althouse has a tag for articles about this. She calls it “Civility bullshit”
      
      The Democrats have been uncivil fucks for at least the last twenty years, as Bush, Palin and others could attest.
      
      Incidently Althouse is a retired law professor, very liberal on social issue and has voted Obama, Obama, Hillary in the last three US Presidential elections, so she can’t be dismissed as a RWNJ, as desirable as that would be.
      
      And even she’s had enough of the bullshit of the Democrats and their Antifia/BLM buddies.
      
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      August 29, 2020 12:34pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        “They started it!”
        
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        August 29, 2020 3:22pm
- barnacle bill
  
  @beadgame
  Trump is for Trump, that is all that matters to him.
  He uses the Republican Party for his own uses.
  
  The current regime is the Trump Party, it is shown by the way he paraded the whole bloody clan up on stage during the convention.
  Interesting viewing below –
  
  https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/the-bottom-line/2020/08/republican-leaders-urging-voters-vote-democrat-200827082645554.html
  it is long but well worth watching.
  
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  August 29, 2020 9:57am
  - Tall Man
    
    And cindy is for us all?
    
    Fancy that, a politician using family to get votes ….
    
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    August 29, 2020 10:08am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Would never happen in NZ, oh wait …
      
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      August 29, 2020 10:58am
- coge
  
  So what you’re saying is, “Orange man bad”?
  
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  August 29, 2020 10:08am
- rouppe
  
  #1 Ardern slapped CP in front of TPP and called it a much better trade deal.
  #2 Ardern has made zero deals. Full stop.
  #5 Ardern said Trump “was not as orange as I thought”. That is a personal directed insult
  #6 Ardern is willing to isolate for ridicule people who don’t agree with her using the “team of 5 million” approach
  #7 At least he doesn’t sweep sexual assaults under the carpet based on the “close relationship” the offender has with a senior minister
  #8 Twyford? Clark?
  #10 Ardern: We have plenty of PPE. We have plenty of flu vaccines. Everyone at the border is being tested. Lie. Lie. Lie.
  #11 Ardern (to be fair everyone Left) blames anything bad that happens as far-right. Like the Left has never done anything bad throughout history.
  #12 If you look closely, almost every incidence of “inclusion and diversity” involves excluding someone
  #14 Which world leader that we have difficult relations with has Ardern sought contact with? None.
  #15 Ah hello? 11 billion dollar “hole” has turned into 150 billion catastrophe
  #16 Ardern has agreed to order several brand new naval ships. And new aircraft to replace both the Hercules and Orion. And replacements for the LAV. Whatcha call that?
  #17 How do you implement a tax cut that doesn’t affect the wealthy. Cut, remember.
  #18 Ardern really wanted the elections held while she was fronting daily 1pm televised speeches. She only moved it when a majority of parliamentarians – basically everyone except Labour – insisted.
  #19 Self isolation which ended up being holidays around the country? Thelma and Louise? Not testing everyone arriving at the border? Saying you fixed it and still not testing everyone at the border? Delaying lockdown to try and get a photo shoot on March 15? Yeah, totally in control here too
  
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  August 29, 2020 11:35am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Now you’re just picking on her to make her look bad – but wait a mo …
    
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    August 29, 2020 2:32pm
- Brian Marshall
  
  Amazingly, everyone of those things except arguably maybe #14& 15, are false. Not sure how you did that, but well done for being so wrong.
  
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  August 29, 2020 3:32pm
- IC5000
  
  > Trump is the worst President in modern history
  
  This judgement is contingent on the historical context. If Trump has been elected in WW2 then he would have done a deal with Nazi Germany and we would still be contending with an Fascist occupied Europe. If he was elected in the 60s he probably would have withdrawn early from Vietnam although we could the world may have been toast because of his penchant for dick swagger.
  
  Maybe without covid Trump would continue his idiot dick swagger to a second term and been a relatively ineffectual president but covid has significantly decreased those odds. It’s sad to think it’s may take 500k deaths to fumigate the White House.
  
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  August 29, 2020 4:23pm
  - The Proper Ghandi
    
    > Trump is the worst President in modern history
    
    “This judgement is contingent on the historical context”
    
    Clearly. What else could it be contingent on?
    
    “If… If he …Maybe … It may take …”
    
    In judging someone, let’s stick to what is in fact the case, either right now or on the record, rather than swerving off course into the irrelevant, hypothetical weeds that abound in your imagination.
    
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    August 29, 2020 5:34pm
beadgame

I will be voting for Ardern on 17 Oct and for Biden on 3 November (each by mail-in ballot). While I don’t think one can compare the Trump republican party to National, it is concerning that so many National supporters on this blog are also Trumpists. Is this representative of National supporters more broadly??
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August 29, 2020 9:41am
- Milhous
  
  Most National voters despise Trump in my experience.
  
  I think it’s the porn star tainted, corrupt self aggrandising , using the office for financial gain malignant narcissism that turns them off.
  
  Jeez if Ardern / Clinton/ Biden did half the the things Trump does the Trump sycophantic swivel eyed loons would be Apocalyptic with rage.
  
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  August 29, 2020 10:04am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Examples of those ‘things’
    
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    August 29, 2020 11:00am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Maybe ‘the porn star tainted, corrupt self aggrandising , using the office for financial gain malignant narcissism’?
      
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      August 29, 2020 3:24pm
  - Inandout
    
    Milly, just go back to bed and dream of the good times before Covid.
    
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    August 29, 2020 1:07pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Promoting a partner’s TV show and allowing the taxpayer to fund some of the costs, using a child shamelessly in front of the world (which wasn’t watching) to promote further personal international aspirations, destroying an entire industry within a country to earn a few “greenie points” from other losers, entering into a coalition with a corrupt partner then refusing to tell the country what the terms of the agreement are….
    
    Corruption like that you mean?
    
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    August 29, 2020 2:08pm
- Steve
  
  beadgame…..more like headgame. Well done trying to wind people up. I don’t think you will be voting at all, there’s no mail-in ballots from prison.
  
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  August 29, 2020 10:09am
- Tall Man
  
  So is that dumb and dumber?
  
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  August 29, 2020 10:11am
  - Tall Man
    
    I guess the downtickers are going for dumbest 😉
    
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    August 29, 2020 2:09pm
- Christopher Thomson
  
  Probably the same reason that people that like Marxism also like Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, and Che Guevara.
  
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  August 29, 2020 10:50am
- BlairM
  
  Well you just said you’re voting for Ardern, so your judgment is already questionable. If you can’t make good voting decisions in New Zealand, I wouldn’t expect better judgment when it came to the United States.
  
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  August 29, 2020 12:22pm
Critical Thinker

Yet another historic speech from Trump. And it’s very heart warming to see the Likes to Dislikes ratio and the overwhelmingly positive comments on the over an hour long C-Span video ?

It sure is looking like it’s going to be a truly epic landslide victory for Trump and the center right on Nov the 3rd. Which should prevent the real risk of a civil war that the corrupted Dems have planned. The future is truly looking bright now ?
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August 29, 2020 10:30am
- Critical Thinker
  
  Self-Described Former Democrats Flood C-span With Pro-Trump Calls After His Great Speech ??
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxXcZ3YjntE
  
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  August 29, 2020 12:01pm
EuropeanCanon

Satanic violence and lawlessness is unleashed in America. Its part of the end times. Trust in God, not in man. All men are liars, God alone speaks the truth.
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August 29, 2020 11:38am
- RichardX
  
  Stop telling lies
  
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  August 29, 2020 12:29pm
- Tall Man
  
  Off the coffee are you?
  
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  August 29, 2020 2:04pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Someone left the gate open
  
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  August 29, 2020 2:37pm
FatTony

When they make him stick to the teleprompter it’s pretty obvious he can barely read. Amazing.
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August 29, 2020 11:42am
- Inandout
  
  FT, he has to tread carefully because the Media Mob is waiting for the tiniest mistake. You know that Mob that call looting rioters ‘protesters’.
  
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  August 29, 2020 1:11pm
  - Brian Marshall
    
    “Peaceful protestors”™️
    
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    August 29, 2020 3:36pm
DigNap15

As I said DF, Trump is going to win by a landslide.
Every sane American who cares for their country will vote for him
The rest are just angry left wing deviants who want to bring their country to its knees and into anarchy!
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August 29, 2020 12:59pm
tom hunter

An accurate summation of the Democrat Party’s deeper problems:

tied to a past, that is, of which Democrats themselves are ashamed. NAFTA, signed under Bill Clinton, and the Trans-Pacific Partnership, championed by Biden within the Obama administration, are not things that Biden or his party want to celebrate today. Nor is the Iraq War for which Biden voted. Nor is the crime bill that Biden sponsored in 1994. Even Barack Obama’s policy achievements — the Affordable Care Act and the Iran Deal — are not sources of much enthusiasm among Democrats these days. The Iran Deal hardly merits mention, and Obamacare is now an old warhorse. The Democrats are fresh out of ideas, and even the recent ideas, like Obamacare, that they do defend are not thought by anyone to be bold solutions to the 2020s’ challenges.
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August 29, 2020 1:23pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  I’m still wondering what it was that convinced you to go all-in for Trump, tom…
  
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  August 29, 2020 3:26pm
- beadgame
  
  US GDP per person is 6x higher than Mexico. Given the disparate economies I have no problem with, and support NAFTA, even though Mexico might have gained more jobs than the US. US GDP per person is 6x higher than Mexico’s. In the long run, things that are done to improve Mexico’s standing will benefit the US. It shouldn’t be all about the US “winning”. This is a short term populist political strategy. both Dems and Republicans (and National and Labour) should do better at helping those that are displaced by trade deals, and those that benefit from trade deals should understand and recognize this.
  
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  August 29, 2020 5:01pm
virtualmark

Earlier in the week he was a lot more energetic.

Then in this acceptance speech he was very low energy and monotonal.

The next day (Friday in US) he’s back to being a bit frenzied.

Pro tip: He’s an Adderal addict (today, earlier in week). And his doctors have him on benzodiazepines (acceptance speech). Your lord and master is a drug addict.
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August 29, 2020 1:50pm
- virtualmark
  
  Oh, and note his loss of balance climbing up a short set of stairs today.
  
  Loss of balance is a key physical indicator of dementia. Compare with Biden riding a bicycle a few weeks ago … I very much doubt Trump would be able to ride a bicycle in his current state.
  
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  August 29, 2020 1:54pm
- virtualmark
  
  Wow, you Trumpanzees should really watch his NH speech (Friday US time, at the airport). If that’s not a drug-fuelled manic rant then Trump is the best actor since Marlon Brando.
  
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  August 29, 2020 2:35pm
- Critical Thinker
  
  Donald Trump demands a DRUG TEST before first election debate with Joe Biden ?
  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8668117/Donald-Trump-demands-DRUG-TEST-election-debate-Joe-Biden.html
  
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  August 29, 2020 2:38pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Everything with Trump is either lies or projection.
    
    If I were Biden I’d say that I welcomed both candidates having a drug test before the debates, as long as the results of the tests were made public.
    
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    August 29, 2020 3:11pm
- IC5000
  
  > He’s an Adderal addict (today, earlier in week). And his doctors have him on benzodiazepines (acceptance speech). Your lord and master is a drug addict.
  
  Apparently it helps him read and feel in control. It’s a pity he’ll never admit to something which can help improve his life if treated.
  
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