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JackRabbit

I’ve been saying for many months, that hotels are the worst possible place to have Managed Isolation and Quarantine because of the shared air. In fact I have been calling it Managed Incubation Quarters.

The reality has finally hit home that MIQ really is Managed Incubation .

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300203698/covid19-mysterious-cluster-in-brisbane-a-warning-to-stop-using-hotels-for-managed-isolation-experts-say
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January 15, 2021 8:01am
- cmm
  
  A cruise ship is a hotel on the water.
  A hotel is a cruise ship on the beach.
  
  Yup, it would have been much better to put them in real isolation – eg tents in a place far from the middle of a city.
  
  What’s wrong with having a 2 week camping holiday?
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:19am
  - JackRabbit
    
    Plenty of free space up at Ihumātao.
    
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    January 15, 2021 8:33am
  - Frank the tank
    
    It’s purely economic. The health ministry was pushing for the army bases to be used as pure quarantine facilities.
    
    The boffins in MBIE and Treasury won out though from an economic point of view and Grunter and the Blairite sided with them.
    
    The same argument was used in Australia to their detriment. It’s one of the great ironies of the whole Little Aotearoa approach to WuFlu.
    
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    January 15, 2021 8:38am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Army bases? All three or four of them that are, amazingly, used to house soldiers?
      
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      January 15, 2021 9:29am
      - Frank the tank
        
        Army bases/airforce bases – you get the drift. The plan was Whenuapai, Ohakea and Army Bay.
        
        There is plenty of spare space in all three, it’s not like there is going to be any additional deployments for a couple of years and the armed forces are already engaged in MIQ so your argument is baseless.
        
        I would prefer Waiouru through. If you could escape and get to civilization good luck to the escapee.
        
        Of course all your lovvie mates wouldn’t have it so easy on the taxpayer dime and probably couldn’t ‘handle the jandal’.
        
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        January 15, 2021 10:14am
      - Engelbert Humperdink
        
        Campervans as Personal Medical Isolation Units distanced around the base grounds patrolled by soldiers already on the base. Try to keep up.
        
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        January 15, 2021 10:43am
    - Dougal10
      
      Using Tekapo army base in the middle of winter would slow up the arrivals of visa holders.
      
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      January 15, 2021 11:59am
  - MCos
    
    Having been camping in bad weather I could think of think of a few.
    
    I would suggest that the more unattractive the accommodation the more likely there would be to be serious trouble with the inmates. Two weeks cooped up in a room, any room, is a trying experience, let alone a canvas one with no insulation.
    Telling people they don’t know how lucky they are might wear a bit thin for the more rambunctious even by day two.
    
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    January 15, 2021 8:49am
    - cmm
      
      Pathetic.
      
      While between houses in 2013, my family lived in tents for 3 months. This was in autumn, up in the Canterbury hills, so there was frost on the ground etc.
      
      We used 3 tents – all up cost was around $500 for those.
      
      Perhaps the new definition of extreme hardship is not having double glazing and only having last year’s XBox.
      
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      January 15, 2021 9:02am
      - Brian McDonald
        
        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
        For an immigrant you seem pretty down on other people arriving in NZ cmm? Like people that were born here.
        
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        January 15, 2021 9:08am
      - MCos
        
        Maybe you did cmm.
        
        My point is that other people don’t have your true grit.
        As you know plenty of people have escaped from what we have going now. Mark my word it’ll be far worse if they’re all made to stay in some camp out in the countryside with social distancing and all the rest.
        
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        January 15, 2021 9:23am
      - JackRabbit
        
        @Brian McDonald
        
        In places like Africa, adventurers pay a small fortune to spend weeks camping in tents out in the open amongst the antelopes, zebras, snakes, monkeys, baboons, lions, leopards, rhinoceros, wildebeests and many many more.
        
        Read a book or two from Peter Allison, and you will realise what real outdoor camping is all about. People that are born here have no idea how pampered they are.
        
        https://www.allenandunwin.com/authors/a/peter-allison
        
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        January 15, 2021 9:24am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Luxury. We used to live in t’ shoebox in t’ middle o’ road.
        
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        January 15, 2021 9:32am
      - Exclamation Mark
        
        Cardboard box? You were lucky!
        
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        January 15, 2021 10:10am
      - Brian McDonald
        
        I know they do Jack. I know such a company that takes tours which has an office in the same building as my wife.
        The big difference is choosing to go on adventure compared to coming home and getting stuck out in wops. Especially for older folks, or those with kids.
        Stupid bloody idea.
        
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        January 15, 2021 10:23am
      - NoFax
        
        It’s like people have different tastes in holidays – not everyone likes your Strength through Joy holiday camps.
        
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        January 15, 2021 10:27am
      - Liberty
        
        Mike
        
        “live in t’ shoebox”
        Was it a designer label shoe box or from the bargain basement shop?
        
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        January 15, 2021 10:33am
    - Frank the tank
      
      Fuck them. Want to come back into the country there’s a price.
      
      The point is Hotels ain’t quarantine and when the inevitable fuck up occurs it’s not the hotels or the government that pays the price – it’s our locked down business(es) or having mandatory contract tracing/masks when we could have almost eliminated the risk with proper quarantine.
      
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      January 15, 2021 10:18am
  - Than
    
    Ummm… the fact that camping utterly sucks.
    
    We’re already putting people who have done absolutely nothing wrong into what is effectively two weeks of low-security prison. A roof and four walls is the least we can offer. We might even deign to give them hot and cold running water.
    
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    January 15, 2021 9:00am
    - JackRabbit
      
      Four walls with an increased certainty of catching Covid-19. Or:
      
      Two weeks spent doing what many New Zealanders do at Christmas time anyway, camping near the shores of Lake Benmore, or at Wanaka or hundreds of other camping spots around the country, with a zero chance of catching Covid-19.
      
      Or maybe even a popup camper. Or perhaps in the 100,000 empty Kiwibuild homes.
      
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      January 15, 2021 9:59am
      - Than
        
        I’ll take the four walls and negligably increased chance of catching COVID-19 thanks. Better than two weeks in the cooler.
        
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        January 15, 2021 10:13am
      - The Proper Ghandi
        
        Moreover, not so long ago, we would hear so much about the widespread desire to recreate our youths by all “swimming in rivers.” That crisis has apparently been put on the backburner with the other ones.
        
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        January 15, 2021 10:43am
    - Frank the tank
      
      As opposed to letting the virus run unchecked? Fuck them. The vast majority had ample time to get back to NZ without having to quarantine.
      
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      January 15, 2021 10:32am
  - Colville
    
    cmm
    You might want to think on the fact that people need to shit and shower and obviously cant do that in a shared space.
    
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    January 15, 2021 10:07am
    - IC5000
      
      Maybe thats how its done in the country cmm immigrated from. Given NZ is a 1st world country we have higher standards.
      
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      January 15, 2021 12:15pm
    - cmm
      
      Never been to a campground?
      
      Putting up a few extra showers etc is a pretty trivial exercise. Even Twyford could get it right.
      
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      January 15, 2021 1:22pm
      - IC5000
        
        Covid can spread by contact with contaminated surfaces. I’m sure putting up a few showers would mitigate this risk. Do you even know what you are talking about?
        
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        January 15, 2021 3:37pm
- Over40SingleMan
  
  I’ve been trying to arrange overseas travel to connect with a loved one for months now.
  I accept that I will need to quarantine at my destination and again upon my return.
  I can easily book a variety of isolation hotels at my destination at any time in the conceivable future. For my return to NZ there are no options! The managed facilities here are booked out and there is no availability uploaded beyond March!
  I did read somewhere that the government is currently negotiating with their current providers to lock in rooms from April – how’s that going?
  Planning overseas travel takes months in advance in the best of times. It is highly likely this quarantine madness will carry on all of 2021. Why is there no availability!?The optics are that the management of these facilities is a joke. Returning Kiwis are being locked out of there own country by incompetence and miss management.
  The management of these facilities are yet another example of this hopeless government’s non delivery.
  
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  January 15, 2021 9:46am
  - Brian McDonald
    
    Going to have a 1,000 returning students to add to the waitlist as well.
    Not that I think the students coming back is a bad idea. Maybe we need to pull finger and build some purpose-built as the article says.
    
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    January 15, 2021 10:26am
  - Master Mariner
    
    How do you think I get on.
    
    No chance of getting a flight on an unknown date to enable me to get a Voucher.
    You need eticket first to get a voucher.
    Incidently i have an e Ticket booked in March Just so to get a Bloody Voucher.
    Very near impossibility of useing it as Sign off date unknown.
    Be another 3 months overdue for Crew change for me. Last time was 4 months over due only to come home and stare out a Bloody window for 2 weeks in MIQ.
    At least I could get home then, Now not too sure as impossible due to fully booked out MIQ Vouchers.
    I run the very real chance of being detained if I cannot get an Emergency Voucher.
    A very high probability when we do crew change ( 2-3 days notification only. ie not pre planned.
    https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/new-zealand-accepts-vaccines-should-go-to-coronavirus-hotspots-first
    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-marine-sector-workers-tested-vaccinations-mpa-13960784
    Communications with MBIE have been nothing short of appalling.
    Until shipping comes to a Grinding halt ( Not getting better) we may as well live in tents as be very little on shelves, And what is no one can afford it.
    What is the Plan?
    Lets Wing this
    
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    January 15, 2021 12:31pm
    - sealegs
      
      I,m in a similar situation, we have been informed that getting home from Montevideo end of next month is going to prove very challenging if not impossible. I have pretty much accepted that I will have to do a further 8 months on vessel until I can get home as hopefully changes would have taken place. On the plus side when I get home I am going to refuse to work until the next financial year as I absolutely refuse to pay Cindy’s envy tax and therefore the government tax take from me will be less than the previous year.
      
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      January 15, 2021 3:34pm
      - Master Mariner
        
        Hi Sealegs, Was discussing the issue regarding taxation too.
        If you can get home , Then how the hell do they expect to take your tax.
        Lets be honest, they are not very good at spending it wisely.
        As for us, We have 6 weeks of “arranging” all ducks in a row to enable crew change. Without the added stress of MIQ Voucher.
        Best of luck, Keep the Faith mate
        
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        January 15, 2021 5:06pm
- Colville
  
  JackRabbit.
  If this is a concern (and I dont know the size of the bug Vs grade of filtration) it would be childs play to close off the return air side of the HVAC and have every suite as a positive pressured chamber.
  Hotels as a rule do not have central plant airconditioning but have separate units in a bulkhead above the door into the suite. Yes there is a fresh air component and a return air duct (usually the ceiling space itself is the RA path) but recirc can just be turned off with the flick of a switch.
  
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  January 15, 2021 10:15am
  - JFK69
    
    Colville is right
    Recirc air is used to reduce energy costs i.e. return air is warmer than fresh supply air so less energy required to heat 100% fresh air to room temp
    So they can turn off recirc and spend a bit more $$$ on energy
    Problem solved
    
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    January 15, 2021 11:43am
    - fisho
      
      Even if it’s not on recirc the incoming fresh air will push stale air out somewhere, in hotels where the windows don’t open it’ll be pushed out places like gaps under doors out into corridors, bathroom fan ducts etc. More fresh air and sunlight is one of the best solutions, roll out the tents and barbed wire fencing, our own little Gaza.
      
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      January 15, 2021 5:22pm
  - JackRabbit
    
    Every Hotel is different.
    
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    January 15, 2021 1:04pm
- Happy1
  
  We have had tens of thousands through the managed isolation facilities including several hundred with covid. Along the way there has been a few slip ups but, when investigated, it’s been things like lift buttons etc. None attributed to the air con. As regards to placing families in tents etc. that may be who you are but it’s not who we are. Treat people as we would have them treat us. Be kind.
  
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  January 15, 2021 10:29am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Yes, been saying it for a year.
  The “influenza pandemic response plan c 2017”
  on the MoH web site.
  Said “Keep it out” so shut the border…they didn’t.
  I would have then prepared Ohakea air base for Quarantine with ICU facilities etc, built accommodation etc then slowly brought people into the country via Ohakea and perhaps ferried to other Army bases similarly prepared.
  Therefore NO ECONOMICALLY DISASTROUS LOCK DOWN
  
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  January 15, 2021 10:50am
- SPC
  
  In the hotels, room isolation until a negative day 3 test result is the next step (there will be false negatives to the day zero and day 1 test). Or just room isolation to the end of the first week, if this is still not tough enough a regime for the new strain.
  
  As for pre arrival from the UK (and maybe the USA) we should run a system where Kiwis book in at an airport hotel 3 days days before the flight and we hire contractors (preferably those vaccinated or recovered from infection) to go to the hotel to test them and get a lab result for them. Then another test on the day of the flight out and they send results to us electronically – so those positive are separated out at the airport on arrival and straight to the quarantine hotel.
  
  The test pre flight involves risk of people getting infected leaving lockdown to get a test and or picking up the result from a lab to get on the flight. This has to be managed, or it will result in more people arriving infected, not less.
  
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  January 15, 2021 1:02pm
Happychappy

Coronavirus: Maori calls for cuts to border arrivals , kaumatua to have vaccine priority. This after they let their own run bullies tactics and roadblocks at the the last Government lockdown.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/01/coronavirus-m-ori-group-calls-for-cuts-to-border-arrivals-kaum-tua-to-have-vaccine-priority.html
Can anyone tell me Kaumatua feared over Treaty Settlements and who ended up poorer because if you listen to the older generations take on what happened the top in Maori got more wealth and the bottoming Maori those that were struggling got poorer. This is the same group that blame the system for failures they help to create themselves.
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January 15, 2021 8:01am
- Yvette
  
  Don’t rush the Covid-19 vaccine rollout, WHO warns New Zealand
  “If you have the luxury of low transmission you can also have the luxury of planning your rollout of the vaccine very well and that’s very, very important.
  “Now we don’t know if any of the vaccines actually prevent transmission … so at this point we’re really focusing on vaccinating the groups that are most likely to get severe disease.” – 1 News
  
  Media reports indicate Pacific Islanders in Los Angeles are a particularly hard hit group, and may be at greater risk here in New Zealand, than are Maori.
  
  As Los Angeles County contends with a surge in coronavirus cases, public health data indicates one group continues to die at a higher rate from the disease than any other group: Pacific Islanders.
  
  The Los Angeles County Public Health Department reports that the death rate for Pacific Islanders is 91 per 100,000 people, compared to the lowest rate: 22 per 100,000 for white residents.
  Pacific Islanders are dying at four times the rate of white people.
  Pacific Islanders also have the highest case rate of any group: 2,350 per 100,000. For white residents it is 351 per 100,000. – https://laist.com/2020/07/16/pacific_islander_native_hawaiian_california_los_angeles_covid-19_coronavirus.php
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:28am
  - Frank the tank
    
    “Media reports indicate Pacific Islanders in Los Angeles are a particularly hard hit group, and may be at greater risk here in New Zealand, than are Maori”.
    
    What? So WuFlu is racist now? I’m sure it’s nothing to do with the general physical condition of the individuals. I’ll guess (purely hypothetical) that P.I.s in L.A. have at least 4 times the rate of obesity than white residents.
    
    Is that a racist comment – will my non-existent twitter and ‘Faceslut’ pages be suspended?
    
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    January 15, 2021 8:43am
    - Yvette
      
      Frank
      … many Pacific Islanders face a heightened chance of viral exposure because of their work in the service sector and a communal culture with multi-generational households and emphasis on group gatherings. Some in-person funerals reportedly continue, despite the pandemic.
      
      This will likely be in addition to co-morbidities like the rate of obesity you mention, and heart and respiratory conditions.
      
      People may be racist. Diseases less likely.
      
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      January 15, 2021 9:14am
      - Happy1
        
        Maori and P.I. are more susceptible to diseases such as this because they haven’t be subjected to the same selection pressure as Europeans over the years of plagues etc.
        
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        January 15, 2021 10:35am
      - Frank the tank
        
        So nothing to do with their ethnicity then just their collective behaviors. Good that we cleared that one up.
        
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        January 15, 2021 10:45am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Lack of Millenia of exposure to coronaviruses in their genomic evolution is probably more of an issue (I know the woke ignorati of today equate pointing out the existence of real population genetic differences with racism but reality doesn’t care about their feelings). High percentages of New-World natives were wiped out by exposure to new pathogens that only minimally impacted evil colonials.
      
      The much higher rates of cross breeding between Maori and Europeans probably affords NZ ‘Maori’ (mostly <<50% Maori ancestry) more protection than more racially 'pure' Pacific Islanders.
      
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      January 15, 2021 9:20am
      - rangitoto
        
        It’s thought that the demise of Western hunter gatherers and other neolithic peoples of central, western and south Eurasia may have been due to exposure to the plague brought by the horse riding steppe people who had better resistance to it. So yeah disease can be racist and is why such a large number of people in the world today speak Indo European languages, which are all derived from the lingo of a small tribe who lived in the Eastern Ukraine.
        
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        January 15, 2021 11:26am
  - Brian McDonald
    
    We also want to get the best vaccines. Britain and the States are rolling out vaccines that have been released under emergency approval – something we would wish to avoid.
    
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    January 15, 2021 9:12am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Yep,
      that’s Prof Graham Le Gros’ view:
      
      Professor Graham Le Gros says it’s better to wait for the full data if we can.
      
      “I would just calm it down a bit… take our time because we’re in a good position at the moment we should just wait to see what happens, we’re learning a lot at the moment, what’s the best way to roll out this vaccine.”
      
      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/01/calls-for-tougher-border-testing-as-no-vaccine-fast-track-likely.html
      
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      January 15, 2021 10:18am
  - kevn
    
    @Yvette…
    Planning-
    Very-
    Well.
    never happen with the incumbent clown circus.
    Not in their DNA.
    
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    January 15, 2021 1:23pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/new-zealand-accepts-vaccines-should-go-to-coronavirus-hotspots-first
    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-marine-sector-workers-tested-vaccinations-mpa-13960784
    
    We will just “Dither” along Yvette.
    
    First thing is identify Essential / Key workers then mitigate.
    
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    January 15, 2021 8:52pm
Juliet2554

More evidence is coming out of face matching those at the capitol riot to BLM & ANTIFA last year. The guy who stole Nancy’s podium is BLM.
Also according to CNN the FBI have said this riot of the capitol was pre planned. How did Trump encourage it then? https://twitter.com/SicarioScott/status/1349531457308532736?s=20
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January 15, 2021 8:02am
- Juliet2554
  
  https://twitter.com/SicarioScott/status/1349531457308532736?s=20
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:08am
  - MCos
    
    You can clearly see the guy in the top picture has had his hair edited.
    
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    January 15, 2021 8:55am
    - Inandout
      
      MCos, so has Nancy.
      
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      January 15, 2021 9:38am
    - Juliet2554
      
      How?
      
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      January 15, 2021 10:04am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  How very inconvenient for legacy media narratives
  
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  January 15, 2021 9:21am
- Surely Knott
  
  The guys name is John Sullivan. He has been arrested. He wen TV into the capital wearing a trump hat but he is a democrat supporter and rebel groups leader who spoke at a rally in august and said,” “We … about to burn this s— down,” he said. “We gotta … rip Trump right out of that office right there,” he continued, adding, “We ain’t about … waiting until the next election.” He then led the crowd in a chant of, “It’s time for revolution.”
  
  His Twitter account is still up. You can buy the Antifa handbook on Amazon or get it free at Auckland library.
  
  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/anti-trump-activist-entered-capitol-wednesday
  
  https://mobile.twitter.com/realjaydenx/status/1349584348257820672
  
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  January 15, 2021 9:43am
  - Juliet2554
    
    Yes and there have been undercover MAGA people in Antifa for months.
    
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    January 15, 2021 10:05am
    - Surely Knott
      
      It’s not illegal to be undercover as antifa. In fact antifa claims to not be a group anyways so interesting that you can be undercover as antifa. But what is illegal is to force your way into the capital building and to encourage others to do so by calling for them. And that is why John Sullivan was arrested because he was inside the capital building. In fact he was in there first filming the first people climbing the walls and shouting others to follow.
      
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      January 15, 2021 10:58am
    - Sacha
      
      Listen to this man, Michael Yon, a veteran of hundreds of protests describing the tactics employed by BLM at the Capitol demonstrations last week.
      What he says, rings true.
      
      www.https://youtu.be/4bieKj7fZ8U
      
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      January 15, 2021 11:19am
  - RichardX
    
    Are you saying the guy in your links is supposed to be the same guy as in Juliette2554’s fantasy?
    
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    January 15, 2021 10:33am
  - Fletch
    
    I remember seeing a video where he changes clothes once inside, so he can walk back out unidentified. It’s a tactic they often use.
    
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    January 15, 2021 11:03am
  - Paul Marsden
    
    No its not. Sullivan is a black guy (also antifa). He was also next to Ashli Babbitt, when shot
    
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    January 15, 2021 11:16am
    - IC5000
      
      I think he was there to document the MAGA riot as part of Insurgence USA. There is footage he took where he shouts out to the rioters stop they have guns drawn just before Babbitt climbs through the window and is shot. Far from inciting the rioters he actively tried to prevent deaths.
      
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      January 15, 2021 3:45pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      you mean to say that a black guy managed to mix with a crowd of ~~white supremacists~~ Trump supporters without being lynched? How can this be so? I am assured by legacy media that they are all Nazis.
      
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      January 15, 2021 4:13pm
- Juliet2554
  
  https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/fbi-arrests-antifa-leader-john-sullivan-utah-storming-us-capitol/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
  
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  January 15, 2021 1:05pm
  - Nick R
    
    Gateway Pundit? Hahahahahahaha….
    Would you like to buy a bridge? I have a nice one for sale. NewInnofensiveName was going to buy it, but he seems to have vanished. Strange, that.
    
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    January 15, 2021 2:41pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Can I pay in instalments!
      
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      January 15, 2021 2:53pm
      - emmess
        
        Yes, you can pay me
        https://youtu.be/CBNqiG98Wjo
        
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        January 15, 2021 11:17pm
Maggie Pie

Trumpy prepares letter for his final day as President…

Dear Joe,

https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/12966
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January 15, 2021 8:03am
- Scott
  
  The more I watch the fate of the current president of the United States the more I believe that the movie The Matrix was prescient. In the movie Neo is offered a red pill that would enable him to see the world as it really is, that they are in a matrix controlled by overlords and that what they ordinarily see is not real.
  
  Hear me out. What if we are in a matrix where our news, our social media, is controlled by big tech overlords who have conditioned us into the following ideas? That Donald Trump is a horrible person and totally unfit to be president of the United States. That mass immigration from Third World countries is a good thing and anyone who opposes mass immigration is a “racist”. That all manufacturing must be done in China and we must outsource everything and the New Zealand worker and the American worker will be fine because they will learn to program or some such thing. That our country’s borders do not matter, our religion does not matter, our traditions do not matter, our racial composition does not matter, we must become part of the global village. Anyone who does not see it that way is a racist and a nativist and xenophobic.
  
  For the last five years we have been given blue pills by the media and our big tech overlords. The blue pill say that even though the American economy is booming and unemployment is at its lowest level ever amongst minority groups, Donald Trump is still a racist and we will never mention the booming economy. If we do it will be only to give credit to former Pres Obama who is an awesome fellow and anyone who does not agree is probably racist.
  
  In 2020 we were told Cova 19 is an existential threat to the world and everyone must lockdown and the lockdowns are working and the lockdown strategy does work, we just are not wearing enough masks or we are not social distancing enough or we are not locking down enough. Whatever happens we must listen to the experts for whom no Covid measures are too extreme. Above all we must live in fear of a virus that over 99% of people under 70 will recover from. We must lockdown fit young people even though when they test for the virus and have the virus no one thinks they are going to die.
  
  And we must take blue pills to ensure that we accept that an ageing Joe Biden won more votes than any other presidential candidate in history. That the five swing states that stopped counting on election night was perfectly okay and that when they opened up in the morning the vote counts were totally different, even though they had stopped counting, just take your blue pills and believe CNN! To believe that the election was fraudulent means that you have been red pilled, even though no major news outlet will actually investigate the election. Why not talk to the hundreds of people that have sworn affidavits alleging massive election fraud? No, take your blue pills and accept the election result – your globalist overlord big tech masters have spoken.
  
  For me I’m taking the red pills. I’m sick of globalists, I’m sick of experts with no common sense, I’m sick of secularism, I’m sick of our country going downhill, our kids can’t read and write, we have no affordable housing, our New Zealand debt keeps skyrocketing and our globalist government continues to consign us to mediocrity. Just take the blue pills and adore our wonderful Prime Minister they say.
  
  Stuff it – I’m taking the red pill!
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:07am
  - Juliet2554
    
    I agree. I have been following it closely for months & it is disgusting. USA is so corrupt!
    Julian Assange famously said that 90% of Washington Dc was corrupt. He then was asked why he hadnt published anything on Trump. He said there isnt anything.
    Trump has been investigated like nobody before & they have nothing
    
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    January 15, 2021 8:17am
  - Paulus
    
    Did not 75,000,000 plus Americans vote for Trump in November – now we are all supposed to have always hated him according to the media !
    
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    January 15, 2021 8:26am
    - mikenmildagain
      
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      It’s almost as though millions more voted for his opponent…
      
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      January 15, 2021 8:51am
      - JackRabbit
        
        That’s right, the dead, half the residents of the Pennsylvania state cemeteries, the non-existent people behind identities who only exist to rip of state welfare, those with dementia, those still in nappies, those who will never vote, all the illegal Mexicans, hell even all the retail store polystyrene clothes dummies voted for Biden.
        
        “It’s almost as though…” But didn’t.
        
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        January 15, 2021 9:02am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Millions more dead ones- and illegals, and fake ballots
        
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        January 15, 2021 9:09am
      - virtualmark
        
        Steve … name one.
        
        Come on, if there’s millions of them then surely it can’t be too hard for you to find just one name.
        
        I *can* name one. As far as I’m aware the only person charged with using a dead person’s identity to vote is this … https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-pennsylvania-voting-general-elections-elections-1ca8e98960f9ee749ffe08ad88830756
        
        He used his dead mother’s details to vote for Trump. Not Biden.
        
        So until you can front with evidence why don’t you just stop lying to us all about a “stolen election”.
        
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        January 15, 2021 9:23am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        yes non-corporeal voters that exist only as unverifiable pieces of paper and digital ghosts that all seem to live in Democrat controlled urban slums.
        
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        January 15, 2021 9:25am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Virtualmark, is your google thingy broken? Suck on this:
        https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54874120
        
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        January 15, 2021 9:52am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Spectacular own goal there, Steve.
        Your link debunks your claim!
        
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        January 15, 2021 9:58am
      - RichardX
        
        Steve Otto(North Shore)
        Virtualmark, is your google thingy broken? Suck on this:
        https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54874120
        
        JANUARY 15, 2021 9:52AM
        
        Wow…just wow.
        
        An article clearly debunking the whole “dead voter” meme used as evidence that “dead voters” was actually a thing.
        
        Did Steve actually read the article?
        
        Was the headline of “US Election 2020: The ‘dead voters’ in Michigan who are still alive“ not enough of a clue as to the content of the article?
        
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        January 15, 2021 10:42am
      - Fletch
        
        Numbers of fraud becoming apparent as Dems distract with impeachment.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwzr8Vd1Vqw
        
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        January 15, 2021 11:05am
      - Sacha
        
        @ mike: At the risk of being accused of trawling, your comment brings the recent NZ election to mind.
        People did, but that doesn’t remove the doubt . . . . .
        
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        January 15, 2021 11:24am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Mike. There were people voting twice – dead and alive. Exposed as dead and caught out.
        
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        January 15, 2021 11:57am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Democratic Ballot harvester finally arrested. The one videoed confessing by Project Veritas. Amazing that it’s taken 2-3 months rather than 2-3 days. Judicial system falling over itself to do everything within its power to ignore evidence of such activities – just as with all the other ballot fuckery in this election.
        
        Please note that this is for sure the only incident of Large scale Democratic voter fraud in this election. Honk Honk.
        
        https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/ag-paxton-san-antonio-election-fraudster-arrested-widespread-vote-harvesting-and-fraud
        
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        January 15, 2021 12:22pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Steve, you claimed dead people were voting. You then posted a link showing that was a false and debunked claim. Try harder, please.
        
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        January 15, 2021 12:34pm
    - surfing
      
      75 million voted for the republican party, because that’s what they do.
      
      My ‘back of a napkin’ estimate is maybe a third of those numbers support Trump.
      
      Trump supporters confuse confidence with competence. They must get a bit confused when he gets caught out lying (generally when he opens his mouth).
      
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      January 15, 2021 9:37am
  - Positan
    
    Scott, your algebraic synopsis explains so many things. The leftist media here have exalted the U.S. election “result” – ignoring and dismissing all the indicators that underline how the “result” was cooked. We deserved far better than to have TVNZ and Newstalk ZB use CNN’s fake news to “inform” us. For newsreaders to virtually bubble with delight as they read the slightest anti-Trump news, as does Newstalk’s Niva Retimanu, negates any and all expectations of fairness and objectivity from our media.
    
    Obama’s measures initiated all that is to come. On current readings, unless there is a coup by the U.S. military, as a nation the U.S. is doomed under Biden and Harris. Biden sold out to the Chinese Communist Party in 2016 – and we’ll see that proven with total U.S. inaction when the CCP invades Taiwan. Remember Trump’s policy? “If CCP touches Taiwan, they touch us.” Under Biden we’ll see the complete opposite.
    
    The Left, here and in the U.S. have done so much to destroy the lifestyle we once enjoyed and expected. If we wanted to preserve what we once had, then we never should have adopted MMP and accorded free-entry to all those party-placed, nation-damaging incompetents we’ve permitted to enter our parliament.
    
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    January 15, 2021 9:04am
    - Chris R
      
      Positan: That Niva is the worst newsreader I have ever had the displeasure to have to endure. You’re right…the gloomier the news the chirpier she bleats. Her ridiculous anti-Trump rhetoric is an insult to all of us who simply want to receive news in its classical settings.
      
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      January 15, 2021 11:01am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    https://pics.me.me/don-t-pop-pills-kids-otherwise-you-ll-be-chasing-36725698.png
    
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    January 15, 2021 9:10am
  - Brian McDonald
    
    Give up that stuff Scott it’s got the better of you.
    
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    January 15, 2021 9:16am
    - MCos
      
      What did he say?
      I couldn’t be bothered reading it.
      
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      January 15, 2021 9:25am
      - Inandout
        
        MCos, he used big words and more than one paragraph, I can understand your dilemma.
        
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        January 15, 2021 9:51am
      - Brian McDonald
        
        I gave up as well.
        
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        January 15, 2021 10:28am
      - MCos
        
        a poor player,
        That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
        And then is heard no more. It is a tale
        Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
        Signifying nothing.
        
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        January 15, 2021 10:46am
  - chukar
    
    Scott,
    Almost enough to drive me to a cyanide pill!
    No the commies are far too sophisticated to supply them any more.They have other methods.
    
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    January 15, 2021 9:26am
  - IC5000
    
    > Stuff it – I’m taking the red pill!
    
    So does this mean you’ll start lifting and spin plates?
    
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    January 15, 2021 3:47pm
- SB2
  
  Maggie Pie, not the same Tommy Robinson as this far right prat?
  
  https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-44577573
  
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  January 15, 2021 1:34pm
Tony Stuart

Remember Greg Presland? He was taking a shot at the Taxpayers’ Union last night, for questioning who’s paying Stuff’s rather hefty bills:

Greg Presland @GregPresland

The really interesting thing about @TaxpayersUnion is who is influencing their campaign decisions. They STILL haven’t told the public who funds them.
A straw man organisation that has no assets is controlled by its funders.

What makes this tweet “really interesting”, is that it was Greg Presland who infamously set up secret trusts for his close friend David Cunliffe. Cunliffe was running to become Labour Party leader, and the trusts set up by Presland were designed to allow people to donate to support Cunliffe, without being identified. This was, of course, before the days when Labour aspired to be the most open and transparent government New Zealand had even seen; cough, cough…

Did Presland think we’d forgotten him? No show of that!
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January 15, 2021 8:06am
- mikenmildagain
  
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  Heh, the Taxpayers’ ‘Union’. That little ACT/National astroturf outfit doesn’t really fool anyone – except perhaps a few assorted rubes who send them money thinking they are some kind of independent watchdog.
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:20am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Some things never change; mikenmild attacks the messenger, as usual.
    
    As for the Taxpayers’ Union, it was absolutely outstanding that they had their mascot Porky the Waste Hater sitting directly behind Trevor Mallard at a recent select committee hearing; until a humourless Labour MP demanded Porky’s removal!
    
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    January 15, 2021 8:56am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Removal ha! Typical left, don’t like it, ban it
      
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      January 15, 2021 9:11am
    - Brian McDonald
      
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      Actually you attacked the messenger Tony, Presland knows from his own experience how donor’s identities can be hidden while pointing out that could apply to the Taxpayer’s Union. So who “infamously” set up the Taxpayer’s Union ability to hide donors Tony? I think that was probably his point.
      Keep an eye out that you don’t start drinking out of the kettle.
      Being a little precious when both sides do the same Tony and if what Presland did for Cunliffe was so bad why are is the TPU doing the same.
      Come on Tony cough up, how much do you donate and why? Or do you hold the purse strings, you’re quite a shill this year – new job? Semi-retirement and a few bucks on the side?
      
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      January 15, 2021 9:30am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        True. the Taxpayers’ ‘Union’ was set up by a small group of National and ACT people. there is no evidence of it being any kind of membership-based organisation.
        
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        January 15, 2021 9:35am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Mikie
        Then why do they keep asking me to be a member?
        
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        January 15, 2021 11:17am
      - IC5000
        
        I always thought the tax payers union was just an astroturfing subsidiary of ACT.
        
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        January 15, 2021 12:22pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Perhaps you should ask them to show they have any members before you consider donating.
        
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        January 15, 2021 12:36pm
- Frank the tank
  
  Should be easily identified via their financials.
  
  Don’t worry trading insolvent is almost exclusively fatal. It’s just a matter of time with Stuff like terminal cancer.
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:46am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Govt handing out another $75million to compliant news media will keep them in Chardonnay and Che T-shirts for another few years.
    
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    January 15, 2021 9:28am
    - Paulus
      
      UrbanNeo
      “Few Years” – you mean 6 months maximum before they come back for more
      
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      January 15, 2021 10:50am
- Happychappy
  
  Just like Neale Jones ex Labour Chief of Staff calling out Simon Bridges on his Twitter views , but quite happy to hide his posts so only the selected few can view. When National were the Government you wouldn’t have had to look far for who was one of their major critics or what most people call trolls , including Neale Jones himself.
  
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  January 15, 2021 9:21am
  - Juliet2554
    
    Neale blocks everyone who disagrees with him. The Ultimate troll
    
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    January 15, 2021 1:06pm
fredonas

“Macaulay Culkin expresses support for having Trump removed from Home Alone 2” Oh, FFS, could the US leftists be any more ridiculous at this point? https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/300205613/macaulay-culkin-expresses-support-for-having-trump-removed-from-home-alone-2
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January 15, 2021 8:08am
- F E Smith
  
  Yep, but the left have form for this. They believe that you are able to punish your political opponents and in the USA have set about doing just that.
  
  The desire to ‘disappear’ Trump out of pre-existing pictures, though, is just Stalinist. Which is what most of the left and many of the never-Trumpers seem to want.
  
  The problem for the never-Trumpers, though, is that this purge will not stop with people described as ‘far right’. Already we are seeing the use of the word ‘right wing’ being used instead of ‘far right’. Just wait, the line of acceptability will narrow to where only those who are truly centrist will be acceptable.
  
  Otherwise you will be called an ‘actual Nazi’.
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:25am
  - fredonas
    
    I agree, the general mood on the left in the US is one of mindless self-righteous petty vindictiveness. e.g. this article titled “Now Is the Perfect Time to Ruin Donald Trump’s Life”. https://level.medium.com/now-is-the-perfect-time-to-ruin-donald-trumps-life-7dc34315ef82
    
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    January 15, 2021 10:02am
- emmess
  
  Uncle Joe would be very proud
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:27am
  - Paulus
    
    Vlad P is delighted with the way the USA is behaving – he could not have fixed it better himself.
    
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    January 15, 2021 10:52am
- Fletch
  
  Hitler and Stalin used to airbrush people out of their photos, too. I am not surprised at all that today’s liberals are carrying on the tradition.
  
  https://bit.ly/2XIeCIM
  
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  January 15, 2021 3:26pm
Juliet2554

BREAKING: Democrat donor and Biden supporter, Gang Chen was arrested for illegally selling secrets to China while employed by MIT. The professor received $19M from the Obama administration and $29M from the Chinese Communist Party.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/mit-professor-arrested-and-charged-grant-fraud
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January 15, 2021 8:08am
- RichardX
  
  Please provide evidence that he is a Democrat donor and all of the funding he received was from the Obama Administration.
  
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  January 15, 2021 10:24am
fredonas

“BREAKING: Democrat donor and Biden supporter, Gang Chen was arrested for illegally selling secrets to China while employed by MIT. ” Get used to more of this kind of headline. https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1349783080882601985
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January 15, 2021 8:09am
- Paulus
  
  No, headlines like this even in New Zealand will be discounted out by the paid for media.
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:30am
  - Inandout
    
    Won’t make ZB, just bad Trump even this close to the handover. At least with music stations you can walk away when the news comes on.
    
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    January 15, 2021 10:04am
    - Southtop2
      
      In&Out: one of the things that gets me about ZB is that some of the hosts seem to have a balanced view of the world and then …………. at the top of the hour Neva reads crap from the Clinton News Network (CNN) WTF?
      
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      January 15, 2021 11:29am
  - SB2
    
    Paulus , extensively covered by American MSM,
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW4L-Baa484
    
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    January 15, 2021 10:57am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Ha! Dems control House, Senate and Presidency, so expect arrests of this type to cease, after all can’t be messing with the lucrative business of selling everything to China to enrich DNC members – it’s their raison d’etre.
  
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  January 15, 2021 4:22pm
cmm

Dudge to the rescue!

A teen is being released from prison and having his sentence changed to home D so that he can avoid the Mongrel Mob.

Two years of prison to three months in prison + 9 months home D.

It sounds like he’s being bullied etc and is resisting the Mob and wants to stay away from them so getting him away from the mob sounds like a good idea…. except that he actually WANTS to join the Mob.

If he wants to join the Mob then home D won’t change much.

“The parents, Justice Dunningham said, would provide solid support for the defendant during a spell of home detention.” Well of course they will. They’ve done a brilliant job so far.

The violent teen who beat up his “fucking bitch”, “staunch for a white chick” girlfriend broke her skull. He has swastika tats. Hope D is not going to change much.

I’ll bet a servo pie this boy will:
1) Ignore home D restrictions.
2) Join the Mob.
3) Be a repeat customer.

This sets a dangerous precedent that prison for violent teen offenders will be seen as manifestly unjust.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/teen-freed-from-jail-after-brutal-assault-so-he-can-avoid-mongrel-mob/XJNRGRCOLFROYZBOF5PJTYAH3E/
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January 15, 2021 8:13am
- pdm
  
  Aahh but Kelvin is pleased – prison numbers reduced by 1.
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:34am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Kelvin is pleased – Maori prison numbers reduced by 1.
    
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    January 15, 2021 10:35am
    - SB2
      
      Not forgetting the overwhelming majority of Maori who don’t do prison time.
      
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      January 15, 2021 1:37pm
  - cmm
    
    Well it’s bloody easy to halve the prison muster – just let the sods out earlier.
    
    The Mob boy in ICU in Christchurch was released after only 2 months of a 15 month sentence.
    
    Ok, he had served 6 months on remand, but that should really be taken as punishment for breaking his bail conditions.
    
    And now he ended up in ICU during a drug deal (or whatever) gone wrong. No doubt he was breaking his parole conditions.
    
    If people were actually serving the sentences handed down there would be almost twice the number of prisoners.
    
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    January 15, 2021 1:28pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  Well we do have to get those prison numbers down. Why is there not more public out cry about this?
  This guy needs to be in jail. He is a danger and shows no remorse and is likely to re-offend.
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:45am
- Gravelroad
  
  cmm- I read right to the bottom of the linked article and found this:
  “How to hide your visit
  If you are reading this information on the Herald website and you’re worried that someone using the same computer will find out what you’ve been looking at, you can follow the steps at the link here to hide your visit. Each of the websites above also have a section that outlines this process.”
  
  It is sobering to think that there are people (mostly women I suspect) who can’t even safely read an article without being in fear of some controlling arsehole monitoring them and then challenging them about it – often with a bit of gratuitous violence thrown in as a punishment.
  Sad.
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:59am
  - cmm
    
    It is sad.
    
    Worse still the people who are showing them this “love” are then being released from prison 3 months into a 2 year sentence.
    
    Does anyone really think that this guy is going to respect the restraining order or his home D?
    
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    January 15, 2021 9:04am
    - Bobba Fret
      
      My bet is he will re-offend, probably bash someone while on home D within next 4-6 months.
      Then judge will get really angry with him and extend his home D by a couple of months!
      
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      January 15, 2021 9:12am
  - JackRabbit
    
    “…who can’t even safely read an article without being in fear of some controlling arsehole monitoring them…”
    
    You mean other than your ISP, Facebook, (whether or not you have a Facebook account), Microsoft, Apple, and a dozen other trackers, as well as the herald that like all websites track your IP address and details about the computer you use and who is logged into it?
    
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    January 15, 2021 9:14am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    “If you are reading this information on the Herald website and you’re worried that someone using the same computer will find out what you’ve been looking at, GET THE FUCK OUT NOW. DO NOT TELL ANYONE WHERE YOU’RE GOING, JUST GET THE KIDS AND GET OUT!”
    
    I think that’s what they meant to say.
    
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    January 15, 2021 10:37am
- kowtow
  
  Here’s another one.
  
  “Witana-Gates tooted his horn and yelled “sieg heil” aggressively at the victim, making gang gestures with his hands.
  
  The victim gestured to the defendant, asking what was wrong, and got out of his car. He took one of his children from the back seat and went to the defendant to apologise.
  
  The defendant got a briefcase containing two sawn-off .22 calibre pistols, took one out and pointed it at the victim, who was about 4m away, saying words to the effect of “I wouldn’t if I were you”.’
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/crime/road-rage-gun-pointed-father-and-child-nazi-salute-shouted
  
  ‘Due to the lack of a suitable address for home detention, Judge Gilbert sentenced Witana-Gates to 19 months’ jail ‘
  
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  January 15, 2021 9:46am
- cmm
  
  I see the Herald has changed the headline to:
  
  “Teen freed from jail after brutal assault so he can avoid gangs”
  
  This is grossly misleading. It sounds like he was brutally assaulted when, in fact, he did the brutal assaulting.
  
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  January 15, 2021 9:55am
Maggie Pie

‘Missing Link’ describes woman he viciously assaulted as a “f—- b—-”
but tells Probation Officer she was…….. “staunch for a white chick”

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1349785976961462274
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January 15, 2021 8:19am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Not sure why so many down ticks for this Maggie?
  
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  January 15, 2021 9:13am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    The thing is Bobba, you’ll find even on KB there’s a small number of people who log in here that either wear a wig, or use public transport.
    Haters will hate 😀
    
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    January 15, 2021 9:54am
Juliet2554

Presidential letter to Nancy Pelosi yesterday.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/text-letter-speaker-house-representatives-president-senate-011321/

Word on the street is they caught her selling GE Aviation to China at the end of last week. Deal was on her laptop that the military have & this is why she is panicking. She was to benefit from this deal. You have to wonder. How is she so rich? She has been on a politicians salary for 40 years. How is Biden so wealthy? Again he has been a politician.
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January 15, 2021 8:20am
- mikenmildagain
  
  ‘her laptop that the military have’
  And there’s still time for Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act, right?
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:50am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    The military themselves may just step in.
    If you think a country can be run in a constant state of fighting, as Hilary’s mob have done for the past 4 years, and agree that a President can be impeached by those who stole his election you deserve your expectations to be frustrated.
    Expect more.
    
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    January 15, 2021 11:09am
    - RichardX
      
      KOB, “The military themselves may just step in.”
      
      Is this part of what you believe will be announced on the “morning of 18 Jan?
      
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      January 15, 2021 12:07pm
      - Vory v zakone
        
        More likely the next day…
        National Popcorn Day
        January 19, 2021
        Stock up now! ??
        
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        January 16, 2021 3:34am
- Biscuit
  
  Your point?
  
  Your idol, the soon-to-be-ex-POTUS, essentially accumulated ‘HIS’ wealth by gifts from his Daddy.
  
  Re Polosi, it took me 2.767 seconds to get this from Wikipedia:
  
  Nancy D’Alesandro met Paul Francis Pelosi while she was attending college. They married in Baltimore at the Cathedral of Mary Our Queen on September 7, 1963. They moved to New York after they wed, then moved to San Francisco in 1969, where Paul’s brother Ronald Pelosi was a member of the City and County of San Francisco’s Board of Supervisors.
  Nancy and Paul Pelosi have five children: Nancy Corinne, Christine, Jacqueline, Paul, and Alexandra; and nine grandchildren.
  
  Pelosi resides in the Pacific Heights neighborhood of San Francisco. Her 2016 financial disclosure report lists among her assets a combined home and vineyard in St. Helena, California, two commercial buildings in San Francisco, and a townhouse in Loomis, California.
  
  Financial status
  The nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics (CRP) estimated in 2009 that Pelosi’s average net worth was US$58,436,537, ranking her 13th among 25 wealthiest members of Congress. In 2014, CRP reported Pelosi’s average net worth was US$101,273,023 having ranked 8th out of 25 wealthiest members of Congress. Business Insider reported that Pelosi’s worth was $26.4 million in 2012 and made her the 13th richest member of Congress. In 2014, Roll Call estimated that Pelosi’s net worth was $29.35 million, ranking her the 15th wealthiest member of Congress.
  
  Roll Call said Pelosi’s earnings are connected to her husband’s heavy investments in stocks that include Apple, Disney, Comcast, and Facebook. Roll Call reported that the Pelosis have $13.46 million in liabilities including mortgages on seven properties. According to Roll Call, Pelosi and her husband hold properties “worth at least $14.65 million, including a St. Helena vineyard in Napa Valley worth at least $5 million, and commercial real estate in San Francisco”.
  
  Doubtless you will find something ‘wrong’ there…
  
  Check Biden yourself: Wikipedia is surprisingly easy to troll through!
  
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  January 15, 2021 9:23am
- virtualmark
  
  You need to explain to me how Nancy Pelosi could sell a company that she doesn’t own.
  
  Sheesh.
  
  In other news … I do have a lovely bridge that I’d sell to you very cheaply.
  
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  January 15, 2021 9:27am
  - Biscuit
    
    virtual, GE Aviation is a subsidiary of General Electric.
    
    Juliet will accuse Pelosi of owning General Electric next…
    
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    January 15, 2021 10:29am
  - Fletch
    
    It will probably be about getting rich enabling the sale. Same as the Bidens did enabling the sale of a firm to China which supplies the military.
    
    In September 2015, the Obama-Biden administration approved the sale of a strategically sensitive Michigan manufacturer, Henniges Automotive, to a firm connected to Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, and a Chinese military contractor that was on an American watch list because of its close ties to the People’s Liberation Army. Hunter Biden’s equity fund, backed by the Communist Chinese government, and the Chinese contractor, Aviation Industry Corporation (AVIC), needed special approval for the deal from the Committee of Foreign Investment in the U.S. (CFIUS) because Henniges produced technology with potential military use.
    
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/23/code-name-project-hanson-insider-documents-reveal-how-hunter-biden-associates-helped-chinese-military-contractor-acquire-michigan-dual-use-manufacturer/
    
    It’s a game of follow the money, but when it comes down to it, it’s selling your country out to foreign enemies for monetary gain. China probably has that secretive technology now thanks to the Bidens.
    
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    January 15, 2021 11:12am
- MCos
  
  ‘Word on the street’
  
  I don’t know what street you live on.
  
  Word on the street round here is what a lovely day it is.
  
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  January 15, 2021 9:35am
  - Biscuit
    
    Yep, MCos, word on the street here is that my Missus is taking me to a nice, over-the-hill-and-away-from-the-city restaurant for ‘a decent brunch’…
    
    I tells thee, when I next sit her down for her regular Performance Review she’s gonna get her usual decent sized tick!
    
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    January 15, 2021 10:08am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Have you tried sheep dip for the tick? 😉
      
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      January 15, 2021 12:53pm
- Paulus
  
  Don’t forget that Obama is now a very rich man even that he did like all Presidents not get paid much.
  He has just bought a beach house for a mere $40 million along with his Washington mansion.
  
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  January 15, 2021 1:35pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Maybe he wrote some best-selling books…
    
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    January 15, 2021 2:51pm
Juliet2554

Read this –
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-president-donald-j-trump-011421/

Especially the words “I will always”
It is like he isnt going anywhere. Where is the popcorn. Dont worry guys, I will provide you with the real news since partisan hacks in journalism dont do their job.
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January 15, 2021 8:24am
- Vory v zakone
  
  Don’t forget Juliet
  
  NATIONAL POPCORN DAY
  January 19 2021
  ????
  
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  January 16, 2021 4:34am
Maggie Pie

If you do nothing else today, spend 30s watching this…..

https://twitter.com/BrettEverest/status/1349699502966534144
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January 15, 2021 8:31am
- KiwiSapper
  
  I did. Why Oh Why such an unprovoked and horrifying act of violence.
  Hang the piece of dog turd………..It can not and never will be worthy of life.
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:47am
  - KiwiSapper
    
    Damn………….I now wish I had not viewed as I can’t get the horror out of my mind and fear it will return to haunt me many times.
    
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    January 15, 2021 9:15am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Not making any excuses but I wouldn’t be surprised if this person has been treated this way themselves so it is just a normal act to them.
    Some inadequate, violent adults kick little kids who are playing with toys on the floor. They will also kick the dog similarly. – often just because they feel like it.
    The sheer casualness of the action indicates this is a learned behaviour – from a very young age.
    
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    January 15, 2021 9:26am
- Ruahine
  
  That won’t be on any of ‘OUR’ news outlets on Sunday or any day.
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:55am
- cmm
  
  It must be tough trying to manage all the harms that colonialism inflicted on him. Sometimes I suppose it must bubble over as hard as he tries.
  
  I’m sure it’s really my fault one way or another.
  
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  January 15, 2021 9:07am
  - fernglas
    
    It’s Seattle. He’s not Native American. What has colonialism got to do with it?
    
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    January 15, 2021 9:25am
    - cmm
      
      Without colonialism there would be no black people in USA. The colonialism brought the slaves.
      
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      January 15, 2021 9:34am
      - alloytoo
        
        So, who sold the slaves?
        
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        January 15, 2021 9:53am
      - Tall Man
        
        Come on people, the tongue is clearly in the cheek here…….
        
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        January 15, 2021 11:12am
      - Don Beckett
        
        The Arabs
        
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        January 15, 2021 11:19am
      - SB2
        
        cmm , Untrue! No the demand for free labour to work the lucrative cotton fields and industry brought the slaves
        
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        January 15, 2021 1:41pm
      - cmm
        
        SB: Without colonialism there would not have been cotton fields and industry in USA.
        
        However, in general, slavery is part of the human condition since forever and nobody has done more to stamp out slavery than the British Empire.
        
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        January 15, 2021 3:18pm
  - SB2
    
    cmm,”
    
    I’m sure it’s really my fault one way or another.”
    
    Not mine. Move on
    
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    January 15, 2021 9:26am
  - kowtow
    
    According to Chris Trotter in his latest , it is literally our fault .
    Funny too how the left love to attack “conspiracy theorists” and yet he’s pushing one very hard here ie the lack of cops to defend the Capitol .
    
    “Moore learned that out of the more than 2,000 Capitol Police personnel available, barely a fifth had been rostered-on for duty that fateful Wednesday.”
    
    Another issue is if this is the leftist view of our history , we better get ready for very dangerous , divisive times when the teaching of “history” becomes compulsory . There’ll be more blood on the streets when generations of children are taught even more aggressively that the democratic traditions of our colonial past and indeed the very foundations of this state are illegitimate .
    
    Strange times .
    
    “Americans and New Zealanders, and in this context those terms refer to the descendants of the European immigrants who subjugated the indigenous populations of both countries and built upon their confiscated territories what they anticipated proudly would become a shining (white) city on a hill, have much in common. Both peoples were raised in the deadly coils of Nineteenth Century capitalism and the blood-soaked imperial networks that kept it fed. Slavery and its successor institutions may have made the culture of the United States more vicious, but the racism that exonerated both peoples’ colonial excesses is embedded no less deeply.”
    
    http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2021/01/will-new-zealands-body-politic-be.html
    
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    January 15, 2021 10:11am
    - plc
      
      Seriously….does he believe the shite he writes?
      
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      January 15, 2021 1:10pm
      - RichardX
        
        ‘Seriously….does he believe the shite he writes?'”
        
        That question needs to be asked after many of the posts here these days.
        
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        January 15, 2021 3:12pm
- SB2
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  MP, and spend 30 secs reading this,
  
  Dagenham racist attack: Police release image of wanted man
  
  Police have released an image of a man wanted in connection with a racially motivated knife attack in east London
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  A black man in his 30s was slashed across the face during an assault on Bragg Close, Dagenham, at 21:28 BST on 21 July 2019.
  
  Police believe more than 20 people, who had been drinking in the nearby Roundhouse pub, attacked the victim.
  
  Det Con Adelaide Halliday said: “This was a violent, unprovoked, racially motivated attack.”
  
  https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-53483672
  
  Trroll Hunter AKa Katie Hopkins a sick F…!
  
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  January 15, 2021 9:25am
  - Jack5
    
    Wow, SB2: as rostered-on ?Stephieboy poster that 9.25 burst was a bit dis-“jointed”.
    
    For goodness sake, take it easy chewing kat when you’re on duty. It’ll bugger your teeth, too.
    
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    January 15, 2021 10:03am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    If you bothered to watch the vid that I posted, you would probably understand the reaction.
    
    And you’ve got the effrontery to call Katie Hopkins a “sick F…”, you sick F….. !
    
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    January 15, 2021 10:06am
    - SB2
      
      She or he is because the tweet was racist with intent!
      
      And you gleefully lapped it all up.
      
      Now, who is the sick F ?
      
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      January 15, 2021 11:02am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Admittedly, I did say that to my partner once 😛
        
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        January 15, 2021 4:08pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, Seattle is the Dem city known for many riots and pillaging so this man was merely expressing ‘what it feels to be downtrodden’.
  
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  January 15, 2021 10:14am
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  That is an act of pure anti-white hatred. Reverse the races, and this incident would spark yet more George Floyd-type civil unrest. That it is not doing so shows us the anti-white/pro-non-white narrative being promulgated. It is allowed and even encouraged. This is the future for white people who share their countries with too many members of tribal, angry, vengeful and low-impulse control non-whites.
  
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  January 15, 2021 11:12am
- Paul Marsden
  
  Why would any right-thinking person down tick this? Is it because they want to see this sort of stuff occurring on the streets of New Zealand? Well too late, this sort of behaviour is already here
  
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  January 15, 2021 1:58pm
cha

Not so sublte message to meal team six and cosplaying gravy seals considering disrupting proceedings.

The 20,000 National Guard troops preparing for pro-Trump demonstrations this weekend in the nation’s capital will be armed and permitted to use lethal force, the headquarters overseeing them says, marking a striking escalation in the way authorities there are preparing for repeat violence after last week’s deadly mob.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2021-01-14/national-guard-at-capitol-authorized-to-use-lethal-force-in-aftermath-of-mob
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January 15, 2021 9:09am
- Inandout
  
  cha, Lady Gaga will be performing at Joe’s concert in Washington. It will be all fun and frivolity.
  
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  January 15, 2021 10:16am
  - Paulus
    
    There will be at least 20,000 people at Uncle Joseph’s concert – all in Uniform.
    
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    January 15, 2021 1:38pm
  - curry4me
    
    Inandout: So, Lady Gaga, and ‘president’ Gaga will be in the same room together. I guess ‘Dr Jill’ will be there too.
    
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    January 15, 2021 1:53pm
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  Where were the 20,000 National Guardsmen throughout the American summer, when people of a different political persuasion were actually rioting and committing violent acts? How far America has fallen when those gathering to voice concerns about election probity are threatened with lethal force. Washington, Adams, Hamilton et al must all be spinning in their graves
  
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  January 15, 2021 10:53am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Those gathering to voice concerns about election probity
    
    Oh dear.
    They expressed their ‘concerns’ by rioting, assaulting the capitol and terrorising legislators. You don’t think some extra security might be warranted for the inauguration?
    
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    January 15, 2021 12:41pm
- Fletch
  
  Meanwhile the media reported the violent rioting during Trump’s inauguration in a sort of matter-of-fact way. They didn’t call it antidemocratic or anything like that.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr0i6piW_ak
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCu2gxVZ4E8
  
  But that’s different right?
  
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  January 15, 2021 11:17am
Maggie Pie

See where the Auckland City Council is now raking in over a MILLION A WEEK in traffic fines!
No wonder Queen Street is dying. We were just discussing this very thing at the tennis club the other night. It’s the boutiques like Chanel, Louis Vuitton, etc that you have to feel sorry for. We were all trying to think if anyone of us knew of a cyclist, or a bus user, who would likely ever be a client of those establishments.
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January 15, 2021 9:44am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Name me an average Kiwi who can afford to buy overpriced tat from them.
  
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  January 15, 2021 9:52am
- alloytoo
  
  No one wants to work in the CBD and without cruise liner business no one will be entering these shops except perhaps for shoplifters.
  
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  January 15, 2021 9:56am
- Biscuit
  
  Maggie, I walked down Queen Street about a month ago and was depressed to my core at the lack of activity…
  That said, my visits to stores like Chanel and Louis Vuitton have been thankfully few and far between over the years, heh.
  My contributions to Auckland’s ecomomy involved the purchase of a few books (for me), some sushi/sashimi (which I, nobly, shared with the partner) and a few bits of Americas Cup paraphenalia for the family’s littlies…
  
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  January 15, 2021 10:15am
  - MCos
    
    That’s because Queen St is awful.
    It’s basically a strip of asphalt useful for getting somewhere else.
    
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    January 15, 2021 8:22pm
- Ehlana
  
  Is the million a week really coming from Queen St or CBD traffic fines? Seems unlikely.
  
  Why feel sorry for the boutiques? Is it really more important that they survive, rather than stores which serve the people who actually live or work in downtown? I note that for the price of a Louis Vuitton handbag you can buy an electric bicycle, which would get you to and from the tennis club quite handily.
  
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  January 15, 2021 10:31am
  - fernglas
    
    Maggie’s just taking the piss. She and her mates all get fake Louis Vuitton when they are on their package holidays in Thailand.
    
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    January 15, 2021 11:13am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Not taking the p*ss at all ferny. Check it out for youself…
      
      https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1349767053910167553
      
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      January 15, 2021 11:36am
- Nickc2
  
  I dunno what’s worse, parking wardens, parking meters or the protected people thrusting plastic cups in my face begging for money as I walk up Queen Street?
  The answer to all this is of course Phil Goff.
  Get off your arse Phil and do something about it and preferably before tourists arrive on Cruise Liners.
  We Aucklanders must appear to tourists as a sick bunch of puppies (unless of course they come from San Francisco) because we (but not me) elected this Council.
  
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  January 15, 2021 11:29am
I remember when

‘The property crash is coming.’
While the lack of housing is always going to result in upwards pressure on house prices, there are two factors that must (?) eventually restrain the market.
Firstly, eventually the ability of the rental market to afford further increases in costs. How much more can the average renter afford to pay.
If this part of the market fails who will remain in the property buyer category. Will first home buyers increase as a share of the market.
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January 15, 2021 9:48am
- cmm
  
  “The property crash is coming.’
  
  Well yup, just like an earthquake, flood and a plague of locusts, a property crash and a stock market crash etc are always coming.
  
  But is it coming this year, next year or in 10 years time? And will it be a soft or hard landing? Those are the real questions.
  
  There is unsustainable debt in the largest consumer nation in the world, so when they stub their toe there will be ripples through the world.
  
  Yanks, every man woman and child of them – including the illegals – owe USD85000 EACH in national debt. Add approx same again for municipal and state debt. Then “only” half as much for consumer debt. Each Yank is born owing around USD200k.
  
  And there’s no appetite for reeling in the spending, let alone reducing the debt. So yes, there’s a huge crunch coming sometime.
  
  That’s one of the reasons our government’s turning on the dollar taps was a dumb idea – they’ve signed us up for a generation of debt. That reduces our room to move when some real problems come down the path.
  
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  January 15, 2021 1:44pm
Jack5

Anyone read the interview with Christopher Luxon behind the paywall in the Herald?

Luxon is so Woke meth couldn’t hype him any higher.

Burning ambition to learn Maori language? Okay, but photographed in a hongi with Rawiri Waititi, who’s taken off his cowboy hat for the occasion. Mmm.

Diversity can raise profitability 30 per cent, Luxon says of his experience at Air New Zealand, and recounts lifting the ban on visible tattoos on “hospitality staff”.

ACT, the road to power is opening up.
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January 15, 2021 9:49am
- Jack5
  
  Interest stoked by the Herald interview, I Googled Luxon and found this piece about the man who will be in our political future – he’s an “evangelical Christian”. As a heathen, I presume that means a “Born Again” type:
  
  https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2019/11/08/chosen-to-rule-what-sort-of-christian-is-chris-luxon/
  
  This seems to be Christopher Luxon’s church – the Upper Room:
  
  https://upperroom.org.nz/
  
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  January 15, 2021 10:20am
- Doc Holliday
  
  From Airbus to bandwagon.
  
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  January 15, 2021 10:35am
- kowtow
  
  yep , read that .
  
  Woke as fuck .
  
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  January 15, 2021 10:50am
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  Luxon seems to embody everything wrong with the current National Party, so he’ll no doubt be a shoo-in as the next leader.
  
  They will never out-woke Labour, so they need to present a viable alternative that rejects the liberal consensus and instead advances an alternative paradigm. Playing Labour’s game poorly will never work for National.
  
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  January 15, 2021 10:56am
  - Juliet2554
    
    terrible strategy
    
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    January 15, 2021 4:00pm
  - Ruahine
    
    Luxon ,Muller. Whats the difference?. Tweedle dum and Tweedle dumb.
    
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    January 15, 2021 4:11pm
- Tall Man
  
  “ACT, the road to power is opening up”
  
  I doubt that very much.
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/01/act-rescinds-support-for-chris-liddell-s-nomination-as-oecd-secretary-general-after-failure-to-denounce-riot-at-us-capitol.html
  
  and yet
  
  “5:35pm – Chris Liddell, the Kiwi who is reportedly considering resigning as Trump’s deputy chief of staff, says he is “horrified” at the riots and “unconditionally” condemns them, he told the NZ Herald.”
  
  https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/live-democracy-under-assault-biden-condemns-riots-as-trump-claims-again-election-was-a-fraud/ar-BB1cwTyP
  
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  January 15, 2021 10:56am
  - Jack5
    
    Why did ACT take a position on Liddell?
    
    There are heaps of issues at home in NZ.
    
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    January 15, 2021 1:59pm
    - Tall Man
      
      A good question.
      
      I for one have doubted the long term viability of ACT under the current leadership.
      
      He’s good at making the right noises, most of the time, like labour did in opposition but they don’t seem to be able to bring in a team that could actually achieve much, also like labour.
      
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      January 15, 2021 3:51pm
      - tf78
        
        Tall Man, I’ve always thought it’s so easy for David as a one man band to make loud noises but once you have other people’s opinion involved your judgment tends to get clouded.
        
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        January 15, 2021 6:06pm
Doc Holliday

The Economist says:
The article of impeachment that passed on January 13th accuses Mr Trump of inciting an insurrection. As president, he tried to cling to power by overturning an election that he had unambiguously lost. He spread a big lie to convince his voters that the election was stolen from them. Having failed to force state officials to override the vote, he whipped up a violent mob and sent it to intimidate Congress into giving him what he wanted. And as his supporters ransacked the Capitol and threatened to hang the vice-president, Mr Trump looked on, ignoring lawmakers’ pleas for him to come to their aid. In a democracy, no crime is higher and no misdemeanour more treasonous. The Senate should make him the first American president in history to be convicted.
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January 15, 2021 9:53am
- Juliet2554
  
  Just lies
  
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  January 15, 2021 10:20am
- surfing
  
  I think people forget that with great power comes great responsibility.
  
  Trump was the most irresponsible president in living memory.
  
  In saying that, I’m not sure he should have been impeached. People knew who they were voting for and he behaved as such. He had a mandate to behave like a tyrant in some respect.
  
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  January 15, 2021 10:22am
  - plc
    
    Peter Parker’s Uncle Ben
    
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    January 15, 2021 1:16pm
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  Emotively-worded BS. Overlooking the obvious helps the case against Trump. No incitement is necessary if you are one of the 75 million who have had the corrupt State apparatus rub your nose in their subversion of the will of the people.
  
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  January 15, 2021 11:05am
  - Doc Holliday
    
    The Economist is no lefty woke pushover.
    
    No rational informed person would disagree with its summary of events.
    
    So that just leaves the rest.
    
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    January 15, 2021 11:31am
- Nickc2
  
  Are you one-eyed in both eyes Doc?
  
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  January 15, 2021 11:38am
  - Doc Holliday
    
    I know a scoundrel when I see one.
    
    Trump isn’t even a very good conman – which doesn’t say much for his victims.
    
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    January 15, 2021 2:46pm
- Philview
  
  Lawyers are already arguing that the assault on Capitol Hill was a pre planned process and so could not have been incited by Trump on the day.
  
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  January 15, 2021 2:19pm
  - Doc Holliday
    
    So you don’t think the continuous lying about the election being stolen from him and whipping the drongos into a frenzy had anything to do with it – his instructions to fight or they wouldn’t have a country etc etc etc.
    
    I guess not.
    
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    January 15, 2021 5:13pm
- tf78
  
  Doc, when all the facts actually come out you will need a Holiday.
  Pelosi and possibly McConnell were both advised of what was to occur. The since resigned police chief asked them for back up from the National Guard which fell on deaf ears. Trump was not advised of any of it but THEY were.
  
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  January 15, 2021 6:12pm
lazza

Today’s GD is mostly inane drivil and navelgazing from the same tired hacks. Note I did say “mostly”
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January 15, 2021 10:05am
- oldfella
  
  Iazza, as opposed to the slightly less inane drivel and navelgazing on other days?
  Where can I find that? 😉
  
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  January 15, 2021 10:56am
- SB2
  
  lazza, mostly? Then what took your fancy?
  
  Directly above your post?
  
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  January 15, 2021 11:08am
- Tall Man
  
  I’m not tired, although a couple of mods may think I’m tiresome ……..
  
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  January 15, 2021 11:10am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Waiting for my sausage rolls to get warm, so thought I’d quickly scroll back and check out a few of ‘lazza’s’ earlier comments on here
  Not one of them i could see, has ever achieved the ‘Gold Background’ award.
  
  Just saying. LOL!!
  
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  January 15, 2021 11:57am
Juliet2554

Does anyone know much about the new US Military Space Force or Space command? They can control any satellite in the world & put anything on our tvs that they want. WOW
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January 15, 2021 10:06am
- Ehlana
  
  Says who?
  
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  January 15, 2021 11:30am
  - Juliet2554
    
    look it up
    
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    January 15, 2021 11:37am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Does anyone know much about the new US Military Space Force or Space command?
  
  Rocket Lab might
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/06/rocket-lab-puts-nasa-us-spy-satellites-into-orbit.html
  
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  January 15, 2021 11:53am
- cmm
  
  I don’t think we’re going to see Space Stormtroopers any time soon.
  
  What we will see are more future-thinking orgaisations at this stage looking at:
  1) Developing strategies to defend space assets from destruction and interference for purposes of terrorism and military or criminal advantage.
  2) Developing strategies to attack the space assets of others to fight terrorists, criminals and foreign forces.
  
  The only things that really matter in space are satellites and their integrity is vital to make all our terrestrial technology work (eg. GPS is vital for cell phones, networks, electricity supplies etc).
  
  On the battlefield, satellites provide pictures, communications and weather reports (needed to shoot artillery accurately).
  
  So having a plan to protect space is as vital as having aircraft was in in WW1.
  
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  January 15, 2021 1:57pm
- Jack5
  
  They (US Military Space Force can “put anything on our tvs that they want.”
  
  Why would they want to? How would they do that?
  
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  January 15, 2021 2:03pm
Loddenthinks

“1984” was an instruction manual, and the Thought Police are tooled up and gunning for everyone.

Golfer Justin Thomas three-putted in a tournament the other day and was picked up on the course microphones – since there’s no crowd to make any other noise – calling himself a faggot. Very quietly, to nobody else, you can barely hear it – but OMG when they did hear it, everyone’s head exploded.

Instead of the correct response (“Get a life, faggots. I was talking to myself and I’ll continue to do so.”) he took an ever-so-slightly conciliatory stance, no doubt after the PR people got to him, and offered this:

“There’s just no excuse. I’m an adult, I’m a grown man. There’s absolutely no reason for me to say anything like that. It’s terrible. I’m extremely embarrassed. It’s not who I am. It’s not the kind of person that I am. But it’s … unfortunately I did it and I have to own up to it and I’m very apologetic.

“Like I said, it’s inexcusable. I’m speechless. It’s bad. There’s no other way to put it. I need to do better. I need to be better. It’s definitely a learning experience. I deeply apologise to everybody and anybody who I offended and I’ll be better because of it.”

I’m not sure if that apology extended to himself, for offending himself after calling himself a homophobic slur, but I expect so.
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January 15, 2021 10:16am
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  Judging by his groveling atonement, it seems his self-description was right.
  
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  January 15, 2021 11:01am
- fredonas
  
  “Justin Thomas‘ father Mike is his coach and has been teaching him the game since he took it up as a youngster.” That explains a lot 🙂 https://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/features/the-game/justin-thomas-coach-163263
  
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  January 15, 2021 12:53pm
- cmm
  
  What’s wrong with a person calling himself a bit of firewood?
  
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  January 15, 2021 1:58pm
  - fredonas
    
    Also an offal based sausage type dish in the UK. My Nana once stopped conversation dead in its tracks at the Christmas dinner table by saying she had fond memories of her childhood “middle of winter, outside the butchers, queueing for [bits of firewood]” 🙂
    
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    January 15, 2021 5:07pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Pork faggots
      https://www.thespruceeats.com/classic-british-faggots-recipe-435283
      
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      January 15, 2021 7:03pm
Juliet2554

Mc Connel has blocked Democrats impeachment hopes. Why are the dems so scared?

Also whistleblowers from Twitter are coming forward.

You know when nothing happens for years & then everything happens in a couple of days!!!

Where’s my popcorn?
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January 15, 2021 10:38am
Juliet2554

There’s a disgusting liberal on twitter who is doxing right wing voters. Is this illegal?
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January 15, 2021 10:38am
- Inandout
  
  Juliet, with so many alternatives out there why would anyone stay on Twitter?
  https://thebfd.co.nz/2021/01/15/sick-of-censorship-support-big-tech-alternatives/
  
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  January 15, 2021 12:09pm
oldfella

Thought this was worth repeating here. Basically, a list of useful ways to describe our woeful Labour Govt and the useless idiots it attracts. Apply at needed. 😉

A Few Clowns Short of a Circus
A Few Fries Short of a Happy Meal
An Experiment in Artificial Stupidity
A Few Beers Short of a Six-Pack
Dumber Than a Box of Hair
A Few Peas Short of a Casserole
Doesn’t Have All Her Cornflakes in One Box
The Wheel’s Spinning, But the Hamsters Dead
One Fruit Loop Shy of a Full Bowl
One Taco Short of a Combination Plate
A Few Feathers Short of a Whole Duck
All Foam, No Beer
The Cheese Slid Off Her Cracker
Body by Fisher, Brains by Mattel
Couldn’t Pour Water Out of a Boot With Instructions on the Heel
He Fell Out of the Stupid Tree and Hit Every Branch on the Way Down
An Intellect Rivaled Only by Garden Tools
As Smart as Bait
Chimney’s Clogged
Doesn’t Have All His Dogs on One Leash
Doesn’t Know Much but Leads the League in Nostril Hair
Elevator Doesn’t Go All the Way to the Top Floor
Forgot to Pay Her Brain Bill
Her Sewing Machine’s Out of Thread
His Antenna Doesn’t Pick Up All the Channels
His Belt Doesn’t Go Through All the Loops
If She Had Another Brain, It Would be Lonely
Missing a Few Buttons on His Remote Control
No Grain in the Silo
Proof That Evolution Can Go in Reverse
Receiver is off the Hook
Several Nuts Short of a Full Pouch
Skylight Leaks a Little
Slinky’s Kinked
Surfing in Nebraska
Too Much Yardage Between the Goal Posts
Not the Sharpest Knife in the Drawer
The Lights are on, but Nobody’s Home
24 Cents Short of a Quarter
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January 15, 2021 10:53am
- SB2
  
  oldfella, must apply also to those voters who gave the same Labour government a landslied victory?
  
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  January 15, 2021 11:36am
  - Tall Man
    
    Nope, just numbnuts.
    
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    January 15, 2021 9:48pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  A modern medical miracle
  That any mammal with an IQ that low could still be breathing.
  
  I have weatherboards on my house smarter than him
  
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  January 15, 2021 12:44pm
- alloytoo
  
  7 bits short of a Byte.
  
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  January 15, 2021 1:38pm
- kowtow
  
  Deprived a village of its idiot.
  
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  January 15, 2021 2:01pm
oldfella

Just came across this on Instapundit. Worth reposting here.
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In the novel Fahrenheit 451, author Ray Bradbury depicted a world in which firemen do not put out fires; they ignite them. In Bradury’s dystopian world, books have been outlawed, and it is the fire department’s job to go around burning them, with the eventual goal of eliminating books entirely from society. That way, the authorities reason, they can control peoples’ access to information. And by controlling what information people may access, they can control public opinion.

“You can’t build a house without nails and wood,” one character explains. “If you don’t want a house built, hide the nails and wood.”

“If you don’t want a man unhappy politically, don’t give him two sides to a question to worry him; give him one,” the same character later says in defense of the society’s book-burning efforts. “Better yet, give him none. Let him forget there is such a thing as war. If the government is inefficient, top-heavy, and tax-mad, better it be all those than that people worry over it.”
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January 15, 2021 11:08am
Surely Knott

French Teen , Elois Rolland, tragically went missing in the Waitakere ranges.
Woman, ex police staffer, claims she rang and told police twice that she saw Elois on an Uber Bike in Piha central 13km kilometres from where they were looking. This was unusual place to see this type of bike. Other locals also saw this.
But police have not been able to locate the correspondence. And Uber has never been contacted.
This needs looking into ASAP.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300201475/missing-french-teen-eloi-rolland-reportedly-sighted-13km-from-last-known-location?fbclid=IwAR0hHdaeRiJyg5UGzNUyVI4D1Dcao1vkNYGcqNj-NfVEVe3BAg2ZzGzN36E
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January 15, 2021 11:19am
- Sacha
  
  He’s been missing since March last year –
  
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  January 15, 2021 11:51am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

What did Jake Angeli’s Mum say to him on the way to jail?
“Bison”
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January 15, 2021 11:25am
- Juliet2554
  
  that isnt his real name. please catch up
  
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  January 15, 2021 11:36am
- mikenmildagain
  
  But is he getting his organic meals?
  
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  January 15, 2021 12:44pm
RW Capitalist

https://www.foxnews.com/media/howard-kurtz-responds-aoc-media-commission
from the article
During a lengthy Instagram Live stream Tuesday night, Ocasio-Cortez responded to a question about whether lawmakers had discussed “truth and reconciliation or media literacy initiatives” by saying: “there is absolutely a commission being discussed but it seems to be more investigatory in style … so I think that’s an interesting concept for us to explore.”
Here starts the death of free speech.
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January 15, 2021 11:29am
- tf78
  
  RWC – there starts the Ministry of Truth.
  
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  January 15, 2021 6:39pm
SB2

Wifey like Hubby ?

“Melania Trump’s ex-advisor lashes out calling her an ‘abuser of the worst kind’

Melania Trump’s Former advisor has lashed out at her for her silence on the Capitol riots, calling her an “abuser of the worst kind,” and adding she is “ashamed” to have worked with her.

Stephanie Winston Wolkoff became Melania’s advisor in 2017 following a long time friendship between the pair, she left the role in February 2018 amid controversy over inauguration spending.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2021/01/melania-trump-s-ex-advisor-lashes-out-calling-her-an-abuser-of-the-worst-kind.html

Breaking Donald Shuts down Ivanka’s desire to attend the Inauguration!

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2021/01/donald-trump-reportedly-shuts-down-ivanka-trump-s-plan-to-attend-biden-s-inauguration-insider.html
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January 15, 2021 11:31am
Fletch

Mark Levin has gone over the 70 page impeachment document, says there is not one instance of a high crime or misdemeanor. Nothing impeachable, just like last time…
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January 15, 2021 11:31am
- tf78
  
  Fletch of the 70 pages, twenty one of those were indexes, the rest, news articles and opinions.
  
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  January 15, 2021 6:31pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/12/no-donald-trump-did-not-incite-an-insurrection/?
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January 15, 2021 11:34am
oldfella

Perhaps the Democrats should consider this as they try to crush Trump for upsetting them so much over the last four years.

“Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.”
Attributed to Confucius

Not sure Crazy Nancy is listening.
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January 15, 2021 11:35am
- Juliet2554
  
  she is too worried about her laptop
  
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  January 15, 2021 3:29pm
Juliet2554

Obamagate being declassified today!!! according to Lou Dobbs. Where is my popcorn!!? PS Obama spied on incoming president elect back in 2016. 5 eyes did too I think….
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January 15, 2021 11:36am
lazza

One more inane blog… though just short of a masterpiece
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January 15, 2021 11:38am
Fletch

Very good article in the Federalist about the totalitarian path America is heading down.

[Democrats] have made no secret of their agenda, which includes such items as mass amnesty for illegal aliens, statehood for Washington, D.C., statehood for Puerto Rico, and federal enshrinement of mail-in voting through a re-upped H.R. 1. Needless to say, total leftist political control will erode liberty and justice, and be used to target dissenters in cruel and unusual ways.

In the near-term, the Capitol Hill riot has served as a pretext for other corrosive political acts: calls for the 25th Amendment to remove a sitting president, a second impeachment vote; consultations between the speaker of the House and the Pentagon about preventing the president from accessing the nuclear codes and discharging his other duties; and calls by our national security and legal apparatus against conservatives and their speech — all under the pretense of combatting domestic terrorism and punishing “incitement.”

… [abridged – mod.]

Yes, we are headed towards something like China’s “Great Firewall,” where, albeit without the power of a government gun, big tech will silence speech that challenges the ruling class’s official narratives, disappear the digital profiles of those who run afoul of its ever-changing terms of service, and take down websites where alternative ideas might proliferate.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/13/democrats-are-using-the-recent-capitol-riot-to-consolidate-power/
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January 15, 2021 11:41am
- tf78
  
  Sounds like our March 15th.
  
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  January 15, 2021 6:33pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Still think Trump supporters were the rioters? Don’t let the truth change your mind.
https://rumble.com/vcm7dl-they-knew-another-setup-by-dc-the-swamp.html?
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January 15, 2021 11:41am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  After 4 years of Antifa and BLM terrorising the American people, the media is calling Trump supporters terrorists.
  A similar thing happened in Germany in the 1930s.
  Do you know what that was?
  
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  January 15, 2021 11:46am
  - Juliet2554
    
    People need a history lesson. Idiots.
    
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    January 15, 2021 1:35pm
- Fletch
  
  Yeh the Capitol police chief heard wind of possible violence, asked for backup, and was ignored – two days before.
  
  The outgoing head of the Capitol Police requested that D.C. National Guard units be placed on standby in case his small force was overwhelmed by violent protesters last Wednesday, but he was rebuffed by House and Senate security officials and a top Pentagon commander, he said in an interview on Sunday.
  
  Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund, who resigned under pressure last week, said he made the request two days before Wednesday’s riot after reviewing intelligence that indicated the demonstration would be larger and more violent that previously anticipated — and repeated his request as he watched the rioters attacking his officers.
  
  “If we would have had the National Guard, we could have held them at bay longer, until more officers from our partner agencies could arrive,” Mr. Sund, who served in the top post for under a year, told The Washington Post.
  
  https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/11/us/capitol-police-backup-ignored.html
  
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  January 15, 2021 11:49am
- Fisiani
  
  You appear to have gone down the same rabbit hole as the satanic paedophile nut jobs. Don’t you recognise fake news when you see it? Hundreds have been arrested and all are Trump supporters. Yet you still want to deflect the truth.
  
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  January 15, 2021 12:16pm
  - tf78
    
    Fisiani – what if, unfortunately you can no longer recognize the TRUTH.
    
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    January 15, 2021 6:34pm
- Juliet2554
  
  Here is the video of the guy from BLM under arrest.
  https://youtu.be/9o8Mc82gi2o . his channel is interesting for sure.
  also the best story is the photojournalist from CNN who also stormed the capitol. She told the guy to delete the video but he didnt. it is all over twitter so CNN was in on it too. I am going to run out of popcorn.
  
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  January 15, 2021 3:28pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Just for the woke wankers.
https://babylonbee.com/news/new-feminist-tickle-me-elmo-doll-just-says-that-was-not-consensual?
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January 15, 2021 11:53am
Fisiani

The most likely source of a Covid outbreak is from a MIQ facility. The most likely vectors to the community of Covid are workers in a MIQ. These people need vaccinated TODAY. We only need a few thousand vaccine doses and every day without vaccinating the border workers puts the freedom of the 5 million at risk. Vaccine is available so why is not being used in NZ.
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January 15, 2021 12:05pm
RichardX

Juliette2554 is a paid agent of the Russian state.
The 2554 is her control number and the military have her laptop.
Having videos on her phone is the only thing stopping her from being disappeared but that will change on the 20th of January.
It is true because I read it on the internet
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January 15, 2021 12:12pm
- Juliet2554
  
  No i just do my research. thank you! Got the video of the guy who organised the capitol raid too. what a fool for bragging on his youtube channel. he has been arrested.
  
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  January 15, 2021 3:26pm
Fletch

Music break. The best early Beatles song that the Beatles never wrote?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4FsMlzPwT8
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January 15, 2021 12:46pm
Maggie Pie

Just been listening to that whingey-whiney voiced Francessa Munchkin on ZB.
She’s taking calls from ‘struggling’ first home buyers. One just called in and said, “…..the government needs to step in with legislation to bring prices down so she and her husband can afford to buy a house” …..LOL!!

Suck it up sweety! If you haven’t got at least 3 mill in the bank, you ain’t going to get shi*t in Auckland these days” 😀
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January 15, 2021 12:47pm
- Tall Man
  
  A bit harsh Maggie.
  
  What were your rates again? I think that is going to be an issue for many, especially if councils are permitted to continue their wasteful spending.
  
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  January 15, 2021 2:58pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    That’s just it TM. As much as anyone, governments have a vested interest in high property prices. Imagine what the GST take is on residential rates – the vast majority of which can’t be claimed back.
    My partner was saying it’s in the hundreds of millions!
    
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    January 15, 2021 4:55pm
    - tf78
      
      Maggie, don’t crow too loudly about your most fortunate position in life, because if they bring in the Annual Land Tax it will dig very deeply into your pockets – which of course is the plan.
      
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      January 15, 2021 6:42pm
Cobolt24

House prices rose almost 20% this year, December alone they rose $323 each day in Auckland
https://www.interest.co.nz/property/108601/2020-capped-19-rise-house-prices-year-despite-sharp-jump-volumes-sold-prices-were
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January 15, 2021 12:49pm
Fletch

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey, secretly recorded by a Veritas insider, says that censorship will continue on long past inauguration day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFhHg8QXTE8
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January 15, 2021 1:17pm
- Juliet2554
  
  how can people down vote this? Who are these communists?
  
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  January 15, 2021 3:25pm
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    Fraser House Ferals.
    
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    January 15, 2021 4:58pm
chukar

MP
Watch this space !
Inflation will take care of house prices.
Controlled inflation ,which the RB will inevitably lose control of. And interest rates will become another burden again.
The losers will be anyone with savings, on fixed incomes etc etc,
A major internal redistribution of real wealth.which socialists are so good at.

We will all have to “suck that up”,
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January 15, 2021 1:18pm
curry4me

https://www.ntd.com/nasa-researcher-pleads-guilty-to-concealing-china-ties_553268.html

NASA Researcher Pleads Guilty to Concealing China Ties.

A senior NASA scientist pleaded guilty on Jan. 13 to lying about his ties with a Chinese-backed program designed to harvest talents from the West and transfer intellectual property to China, the Justice Department announced.
Meyya Meyyappan, 66, joined NASA (National Aeronautics and Space Administration) in 1996 and has been the chief scientist for exploration technology at NASA’s Ames Research Center in California’s Silicon Valley since 2006.
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January 15, 2021 1:20pm
curry4me

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-gop-rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-introduce-articles-impeachment-joe-biden-january-21-abuse-power-video/

Beiing Biden Impeachment Scheduled for Jan 21st.

Freshman Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) announced on Wednesday night she will introduce articles of impeachment against Joe Biden on January 21, 2021 over his abuse of power.
Biden’s son Hunter Biden is currently under investigation over the criminal contents contained on his laptop computer that was turned over to federal investigators last year. I bet Nancy Pelosi will be keen to see this happen / sarc.
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January 15, 2021 1:21pm
I remember when

In the production of ‘the sins and failings’ of President Donald Trump.
Have too many of his critic spent too much time in the make-up room!
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January 15, 2021 1:26pm
- Tall Man
  
  Or some not enough
  
  https://www.bizpacreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/SG-nancy-pelosi-drunk-senile-slur-words.jpg
  
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  January 15, 2021 2:54pm
Juliet2554

Breaking News – Antifa arrest for the capitol raid & more to come.
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January 15, 2021 1:35pm
Hard Cheese

Interesting….looks like the Herald may have accidentally breached name suppression on the All Black being sentenced for punching a woman in the face in a taxi. I was reading all about this person in the article, then switched to Stuff who said his name was suppressed for a week

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/123930987/former-all-black-sentenced-for-punching-woman-in-the-face-but-name-kept-secret-for-now

Switched back to the Herald, the article is gone. Oops.
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January 15, 2021 1:46pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Bit of a Catch-22 these days…

Try employing Te Reo in Council messages and get slammed for appropriating other folks’ words.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/ldr/434566/council-apologises-after-appropriating-maori-campaign-slogan
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January 15, 2021 1:53pm
- Tall Man
  
  And yet we find Bridgerton, a period drama, has chosen to insert a significant number of non British looking people and that’s ok it seems.
  
  https://people.com/royals/writer-of-new-netflix-drama-bridgerton-defends-depicting-queen-charlotte-as-black/
  
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  January 15, 2021 2:50pm
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    You can bet your DNA that there were no “Coloured” Dukes and the only “Coloured People” would have been servants.
    
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    January 15, 2021 3:24pm
  - Juliet2554
    
    I turned it off as not reflective of history
    
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    January 15, 2021 3:24pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      I certainly wouldn’t watch any TV drama that portrayed Jesus as a white man.
      
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      January 15, 2021 4:29pm
  - Andrei
    
    And there is a new TV series coming about Anne Boleyn played by Jodie Turner-Smith, a black actress in a bid to “challenge conventions’ and shine a ‘feminist light’ on her story.”
    
    But que the outrage if we were to resurrect the early 20th century conventions of minstally and have people perform in blackface
    
    The recent filum about Mary Queen of Scotts also challenged conventions with non British looking people playing historical figures – it b0mbed at the box office
    
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    January 15, 2021 3:56pm
- graham
  
  So even when people try to ‘do the right thing’ and keep the ‘precious language’ alive – as we are all told is so-o-o vital – they get slammed.
  
  Same as when someone makes a genuine effort to speak Maori, and gets told off for mispronouncing some word and accused of being lazy or insulting.
  
  Why would you bother? If you’re going to get scolded for appropriation, mispronunciation, misuse, or similar, then it’s simply not worth it. Obviously they’re not as concerned with keeping the language alive as we’re being told, if they’re going to get all snarky and oh-so-precious about it.
  
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  January 15, 2021 3:08pm
- tf78
  
  Maggy I have the question of 2021 for you to answer if you can.
  
  If sign language is done from a speech spoken in English can everybody understand it?
  
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  January 15, 2021 6:46pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

At 9.52am I posted a reply to virtualmark about dead people voting and included a link. That link was not my intended one, it was a fuckup. The link I meant has now gone (how about that?)
It sure was an own goal. I apologise for leading people astray – even you Mike. It still does not mean that dead people voted though.
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January 15, 2021 2:06pm
- Doc Holliday
  
  Not counting the 73,000,000 brain-dead who voted for Trumpy.
  
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  January 15, 2021 2:16pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    Who is brain dead?
    
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    January 15, 2021 8:01pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Good on you. Kiwiblog is not usually a forum for admitting error.
  
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  January 15, 2021 2:44pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I always own my own shit Mike, it’s just how I am
    
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    January 15, 2021 3:03pm
    - Doc Holliday
      
      Your intentions my be good but your judgement is woeful.
      
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      January 15, 2021 5:18pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Nice insult, thankyou. Are you a real Doctor or just a doctor of say politcal science? Reason being, I would like to kick your arse with my ingrown toenail
        
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        January 15, 2021 7:00pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        Pot – kettle.
        
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        January 15, 2021 8:01pm
Maggie Pie

Spent the last half-hour going back thru my posts from yesterday and toting up the number of ‘upticks’. Thank you.

I thought the ‘Response Of The Day’, would probably have to go to ex Socialist Unity Party member, former ACT MP, and well known lawyer, David Garrett, who in reply to my post relating to Trumpy’s Impeachment, took the opportunity to describe me as…..”vacuous”.

The best part however, was when ol Dave then went on to admit, “……he has worn the same pair of shoes for the last 30 years”

LOL!!!!
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January 15, 2021 2:15pm
- Doc Holliday
  
  It’s just David “doing a line”.
  
  For his epitaph: He was a shoe-in.
  
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  January 15, 2021 2:24pm
Belinda

Oh dear did granny Herald slip up today, I swear I had a notification about who the ex AllBlack was in court today for assault, yet when I go to Stuff he has name suppression.
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January 15, 2021 2:31pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Americas Cup Prada Series in 24 minutes. Live on Youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwfu1-24T7Q
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January 15, 2021 2:37pm
- greybeard
  
  And free-to-air on TV1.
  The preambles are a bit boring but the actual racing is terrific.
  These boats are incredible things.
  
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  January 15, 2021 5:04pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    TV1? who watches that shit? Most of those children have no idea where Auckland is, and they fucking live here
    
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    January 15, 2021 7:03pm
oldfella

For those of you applauding the demise of Trump… not so fast.
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Donald Trump will be an ex-president like no other because he is a political force like no other — at least since Theodore Roosevelt. Trump will not just be an ex-president. He will be the leader of a powerful movement, one that is very much alive and still very much in control of the Republican party.
https://spectator.us/topic/nevertheless-persisted-trump-2024/
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January 15, 2021 2:37pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  TRUMP 2024! Hopefully with one of his idiot spawn on the ticket to add extra comedic value.
  
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  January 15, 2021 3:19pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I’m hoping Candace Owens Mike
    
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    January 15, 2021 3:55pm
    - Inandout
      
      One classy lady that one.
      
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      January 15, 2021 6:41pm
  - Inandout
    
    m&m, I sense fear in your comments.
    
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    January 15, 2021 6:42pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  This is the man that gets thousands of boats on the water and like 12000 people (somewhere in Florida)
  Same man gets a car rally 96 miles long. 96 miles is Auckland to Hamilton ffs. The true Patriots will follow him.
  Republics prob won’t win again until the cheating and corruption is fully exposed. That will be Trumps goal – to take them down and drain the swamp. The swamp is yuger than he thought, that is why the Dems want trump out of the picture
  
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  January 15, 2021 4:00pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

These are the people who tell you not to open your business:
https://rumble.com/vctjt1-fail-democrat-congressman-takes-off-mask-to-sneeze.html?
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January 15, 2021 2:40pm
- Inandout
  
  Steve, one of the symptoms of sneezing:
  ‘Drug withdrawal’.
  
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  January 15, 2021 6:43pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Could be. Shit in. shit out – so I am told
    
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    January 15, 2021 7:06pm
pdm

Could someone tell TVNZ we are watching Americas Cup to see boats racing – not to listen to all the drivel they are dishing up.
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January 15, 2021 2:57pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The children at play school TV1 know nothing about yacht racing. Quite childish really. Turn sound off or livestream on Youtube.
  Congrats to the Poms – first win. What have they done? Prada will be looking close
  
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  January 15, 2021 4:04pm
  - pdm
    
    So true Steve – Jack Tame gives me the guts ache with his waffle and the alien language he spouts out.
    
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    January 15, 2021 4:24pm
  - sooty
    
    Did you think for a minute it was not all about the pretty talking heads and their pretty friends!
    
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    January 15, 2021 5:00pm
    - sooty
      
      Bet the duck was out on the water watching the sailing, free of charge sucking on more free shit!
      
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      January 15, 2021 5:17pm
  - lifesgood
    
    Why does the maori guy speak English with a weird accent like it’s his second language.
    
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    January 15, 2021 5:43pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The ‘your fellas’ guy?
      
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      January 15, 2021 7:08pm
- alex Masterley
  
  pdm,
  I don’t waste my time watching TeeVeeNZ’s coverage.
  Amateur hour is the best description.
  Youtube’s coverage is far better with the comentators (apart from McIvor) knowing what they are talking about.
  
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  January 15, 2021 6:57pm
  - pdm
    
    Peter Lester is very good – but the rest at TV1 are below par at best.
    
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    January 15, 2021 8:23pm
    - Batman
      
      Watch the YouTube version. Far better if you know which bit is the front and which is the back already
      
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      January 15, 2021 8:34pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        There is a sharp end and a blunt end
        
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        January 16, 2021 8:35am
- alex Masterley
  
  Oh and well done to the Poms. Didnt see that one comming.
  
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  January 15, 2021 6:58pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yes, but what did they do after 6 lost?
    
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    January 15, 2021 7:09pm
mikenmildagain

How about a new Kiwiblog feature: most moronic GD comment of the day?
I have some nominations from this thread:
Juliet 2554
Maggie Pie
SB2
Easiest way to vote would be to put your favourite inanity in a reply to this comment, and let the karma ticks do the rest.
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January 15, 2021 3:01pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Bono and the Edge walk into a bar.
  
  Barman: “Oh no. Not U2 again”
  
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  January 15, 2021 3:55pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I think he just busted his keyboard with his head
    
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    January 15, 2021 4:05pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Pfffttt, no keyboard is that soft.
      
      Smarmy requires slime, not grist.
      
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      January 15, 2021 10:10pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Mike – you forgot yourself. Fuck, you should be top of the list
  
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  January 15, 2021 4:06pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Feel free to select your favourite moronic comment of the day, Steve. I was going to nominate you for your spectacular own goal, but you graciously acknowledged, where a proper moron would have doubled down.
    
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    January 15, 2021 4:08pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Uptick sonny, and thanks
      
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      January 15, 2021 7:10pm
- Biscuit
  
  Aw, mike.
  
  I might (and often do) disagree with folk in here but I’m not a ‘hater’ … and I’m not one to call ANYONE ‘moronic’…
  
  One of my favourite poetic lines:
  
  We live on a minor planet attached to a minor star at the far edge of a minor galaxy. We live here briefly … and then we’re gone. And when we’re gone, we’re forgotten. The only morality that makes any sense is to make sure you’re first in line for any food that is on offer.
  
  Actually, I just MAY have stuffed up that ending…
  
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  January 15, 2021 5:35pm
  - tf78
    
    Biscuit I totally agree with your sentiments – we are basically pointless.
    
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    January 15, 2021 7:46pm
  - Tall Man
    
    But shit bickie, as Maggie would say, We’re here 🙂
    
    No need for a police box 😉
    
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    January 15, 2021 10:13pm
- Inandout
  
  m&m, quit while you are behind.
  
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  January 15, 2021 6:45pm
  - sooty
    
    The labour default position. Behind!
    
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    January 15, 2021 7:48pm
- Tall Man
  
  You need to be number 1 at something?
  
  Sad really mikey.
  
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  January 15, 2021 10:24pm
Maggie Pie

Can honestly say we have never once been harshly spoken to, batoned, bitten, pepper spayed, arrested, or handcuffed by the Police.
And we’re never ever likely to be!!

If this silly old coot had done what he was told…….neither would he.

https://twitter.com/RebelNewsOnline/status/1349821705217310728
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January 15, 2021 3:02pm
- Tall Man
  
  Less of the “old” thanks Maggie.
  
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  January 15, 2021 3:54pm
Fletch

Dems introduce bill to ban Trump from the Capitol for the rest of his life…

Democratic Congresswoman Nikema Williams introduced a bill to ban President Trump from entering the U.S. Capitol building for the rest of his life.

https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/trump-capitol-ban/

FFS, I’ve never known people so petty and vindictive. They truly are pathetic. Like little children. Lincoln really should have disbanded the Democrat party after they lost the Civil War, but he wanted to me merciful and unifying. I guess they only would have started up again under another name.
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January 15, 2021 3:04pm
- Doc Holliday
  
  Trump is a lying turd prepared to disrupt democracy and if you can’t see that you are the very sad result of religious brainwashing.
  
  It will take years for America to recover from this narcissistic madman.
  
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  January 15, 2021 5:28pm
  - Inandout
    
    Doc, get a grip mate, don’t spout CNN guff.
    
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    January 15, 2021 6:47pm
    - Doc Holliday
      
      How long have you been out?
      
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      January 15, 2021 8:40pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Don’t panic Doc, crazy joe will have it sorted next week, or last week or next week or …… what’s a week?????
    
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    January 15, 2021 10:07pm
    - Doc Holliday
      
      As long as Biden surrounds himself with decent honourable people and not the criminals and scumbags who protected Trumpy…
      
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      January 15, 2021 11:11pm
Inandout

https://trends.gab.com/item/6000fe49e2101a2c7114ff75

Can he come over here to sort out Jacinda’s friend?
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January 15, 2021 3:50pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  You just leave the man with a girl’s name alone ok?
  
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  January 15, 2021 7:15pm
Biscuit

Pepper-spaying sounds PAINFUL, Maggie!

(Soz, couldn’t resist…)

Same here, though. Years and years ago – like I was at Uni at the time – a mate and I decided to do some nude dead-antsing on the way home from a night out.

Mr Cop and his mate, passing by in their patrol car, made a really hurtful comment about ‘If mine was that small, I’d not flash it in public’ and basically suggested we go home…

We went home…

(It WAS a cold night, I should hasten to add, ha…)
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January 15, 2021 3:54pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Oh gawd – reminds me of the time in Y11 boarding when we were going on the school bus to a dance at St Pats Boys. Me and my bezzie were sitting in the back seat and saw a cop car behind us. We decided to lift our skirts and give the driver a moon. All he did was flash his red and blue lights for a couple of secs and gave us a thumbs up. Turned off not much later. Honestly, our hearts were beating sooo fast.
  
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  January 15, 2021 7:19pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Hard to find a gay cop … well done Maggie 😉
    
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    January 15, 2021 10:03pm
- chukar
  
  Would have thought spaying required a veterinarian!
  Did not know pepper could do it.
  Live and learn
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:06pm
Maggie Pie

YAY!!

Eden Park has been given permission to hold concerts.

Not that it concerns us one way or the other – but just knowing how H1 must be feeling, makes it alll worthwhile 😀
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January 15, 2021 5:32pm
- greybeard
  
  She probably spends about 10 days a year max at her home anyway and it was more a case of ensuring her voice was heard and keeping-up her public profile than a genuine aversion to the hoi-polloi having a bit of fun.
  
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  January 15, 2021 5:43pm
  - sooty
    
    I would say it’s done wonders for her public profile.
    She NZ’s most hated lady. What’s changed?
    
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    January 15, 2021 7:42pm
    - Tall Man
      
      2nd most hated ……
      
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      January 15, 2021 10:00pm
Biscuit

Exactly, Maggie.

I regard ‘Music’ as ‘Glorified Noise’, heh, and can’t REMEMBER the last concert I went to but, free enterprise and all that, I wouldn’t want to be the Auntie Helen that bans a few each year…
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January 15, 2021 5:39pm
Fletch

Inauguration meme –

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/061/940/449/original/c0bdc08e11db139c.jpeg
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January 15, 2021 6:15pm
- Inandout
  
  Fletych, I love memes that strike the truth. And the Biden Wall was erected faster than a teenager’s erection.
  
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  January 15, 2021 6:51pm
Fletch

Trump to declassify the foot high stack of intel related to Obamagate on Friday.

BREAKING: @jsolomonReports reports that Pres. Trump has ordered the declassification of intelligence docs from Obamagate, including Christopher Steele’s debriefings and FBI asset Stefan Halper’s instructions. Expected to be released tomorrow or Monday. #MAGA #AmericaFirst #Dobbs pic.twitter.com/8xFBV6wMPQ

— Lou Dobbs (@LouDobbs) January 14, 2021

Of course, the media will probably yawn and ignore it all. Even if it contains evidence of serious crimes. That’s the way things are at the moment.
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January 15, 2021 6:47pm
- Inandout
  
  Fletch, the real blogs won’t ignore this, the ones that a huge number of people have joined.
  
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  January 15, 2021 6:53pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

If you need 20000 armed soldiers to protect your inauguration from the people; then you were probably not elected by the people ……..
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January 15, 2021 7:26pm
- Doc Holliday
  
  Cf Adolph Hitler – another German, although Austrian by birth. Pied Piper and rats …
  
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  January 15, 2021 11:14pm
Wired-one

http://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13749423/blm-activist-arrested-inside-capitol-during-riot/amp/

Interesting…
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January 15, 2021 7:33pm
Maggie Pie

What’s going to happen when Biden tweets and no one gives a shit?
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January 15, 2021 8:08pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Jack will send Biden the bill, which will be paid by China
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:13pm
- Fletch
  
  It will be by his handlers anyway. Biden probably has no idea how to use the Twitster
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:33pm
- Doc Holliday
  
  The only reason normal people watch Trump is to prepare for chaos and disaster.
  
  The man is a cyclone of shit and feathers.
  
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  January 15, 2021 8:37pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    Perhaps you should try to convince his 80,000,000
    followers – it won’t work just telling us your obsession.
    
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    January 15, 2021 9:50pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Whereas crazy joe is … slow and slower, dumb ad dumber, retarded and jacinda…
    
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    January 15, 2021 9:50pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Oh dear,and ardern is ……. no feathers 🙂
    
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    January 15, 2021 9:58pm
- Tall Man
  
  Clever, 10 points Maggie 🙂
  
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  January 15, 2021 9:55pm
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https://www.ysense.com/?rb=59429643
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