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Happychappy

Labour, JacindaArdern and Megan Woods lie and spin on public housing.
Half of ‘New’ public houses not accually new stock. Only half of the “new housing places souced by the Goverment in its bid to stem a burgeoning waiting list are additional newly – built houses, howeverdata analyzed by stuff shows “places sourced” does not mean new supply-figures and revealed fewer than 3,500 of those will be new builds.
This is because while Kainga Ora (formally Housing New Zealand) will have built around 4,800 homes in that time frame, it will also have demolished 2,700 homes meaning more like 2,100 net houses.
Another1,300 of new builds were souced from community housing providers, the rest of the “places” will have been leased or bought in the private market or sourced from Councils and Community providers and reclassified- a move call redirected.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/124306169/half-of-new-public-houses-not-actually-new-stock
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February 24, 2021 8:00am
- cmm
  
  The biggest “housing crisis” is that we have people living in motels.
  
  These are mainly the worst behaved people and they are getting a reward for behaving badly.
  
  Behave badly and you end up with free cleaning and washing done by the motel. Heck they’re probably getting their beds made every day too.
  
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  February 24, 2021 9:04am
  - alloytoo
    
    Many people seem to be unaware of how many motels are being utilized.
    
    Rooms in Porirua cannot be had for love nor money (but for free if the government gives it to you.)
    
    This is going to start to effect the citizen in the street, be it business or holiday travelers.
    
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    February 24, 2021 9:58am
    - Harriet
      
      This won’t change until international travel is back up and running…..
      
      ….supply and demand….
      
      ….these ‘jobless people’ are being held as hostages by Labour and the media as they will have no ‘new or public homes’ to go to.
      
      …a proposed tourism levy is going to build them all new homes.
      
      more ‘negotiations’…..but this time with an international ‘woke’ cheer squad. It’s getting expensive. 😎
      
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      February 24, 2021 10:19am
    - Maxx
      
      And when the writing is on the wall that the gravy train is ending, watch how many of these suddenly go on the market.
      
      Years of max occupancy as standard rates (govt doesn’t even try to negotiate) will really bump up the price to only be purchased by someone who is unsuspecting.
      
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      February 24, 2021 10:22am
    - artemisia
      
      HUD reports monthly on public housing – there’s a lot of it and not just state houses and motels. Cost – ginormous.
      
      The report and charts are highly instructive as they show trends over time.
      
      There is a chart at the bottom of transitional housing (mostly motels I guess). September 2016 looks like about 600. December 2021 – closing on 4,000.
      
      The Sustaining Tenancies chart is also instructive. This programme helps households stay in their tenancy and not get booted out. Rent arrears mostly I assume. Until very recently this was for social housing tenants only. That would be tenants on cheap as chips rent. Cost? No doubt reported in a 4 point footnote somewhere.
      
      Seldom if ever see these numbers reported in the media. Not even a thank you to taxpayers.
      
      https://www.hud.govt.nz/assets/News-and-Resources/Statistics-and-Research/Housing-Dashboard-2020/Housing-Dashboard-December-2020.pdf
      
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      February 24, 2021 12:26pm
  - Pharmachick
    
    @cmm – sorry about yesterday evening. Probably a bit OTT. For context, I had spent a couple of hours Zooming with a Prostate Cancer Support group and many are vaccine hesitant because of mis-information. Thats an explanation not an excuse, I’ll try harder not to be a dick.
    
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    February 24, 2021 3:25pm
    - cmm
      
      I didn’t see what you said, but in all my interactions with you I have failed to detect systematic dickness. I am sure I’d have put it down as a bad day at the office.
      
      Thanks for the apology anyway – big of you!
      
      As one on the verge of entering the prostate cancer target zone, I find it an interesting disease.
      
      Most men of an age (something like 90%) develop prostate cancer, but relatively few die from it.
      
      There is unfortunately a lot of complete horseshit (in both directions) about CV19 vaccines which is limiting people from making an informed choice. It seems to be a big race to see which side can scare people the most. Data doesnt (or shouldn’t) have sides.
      
      Would I get a CV19 vaccine? Maybe if I was getting frail (70 or so) but still had at least an expected 5 years to go. I don’t think I’ll get one at my current status (59 with minor heart issues). I don’t think I would get one if I had an ETA for death of less than a year – eg in a rest home since that indicates you typically only have short lifetime left (average stay in rest homes is under 18 months – so you’re already on a greasy perch) – so what’s the point? But who knows – I’ve changed my mind about heaps of things before.
      
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      February 24, 2021 3:57pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Sensitive subject for me. I am having a biopsy on Friday, as long as the Covid nutters don’t cancel out. I am 3 months overdue for this. It is called ‘active surveillance’ which is an oxymoron if there is no ‘action’ being taken.
      A few cages might be rattled very loud
      
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      February 24, 2021 5:47pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        Yes I know. I have been working in this area for quite a while, not just drug development, but also outreach and with many support groups here in Canada, explaining prognosis, side FX, drugs etc.
        
        SteveO if you want to reach out email me, I’m abby[dot]collier[at]ubc.ca
        
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        February 24, 2021 6:00pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Low level – Gleasons 6
        
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        February 24, 2021 7:17pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        @steveO… yah I know what Gleasons 6 means… not doing this in public, contact details provided before. Let me know, as above, if there’s anything I can help with, not really sure you want that out there… As an aside: Hang Strong Mate!
        
        These comments tonight also go for anyone else out here, contact details are provided, I cannot give medical advice (not a medically qualified physician), but can answer direct drug questions, etc. within my expertise.
        
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        February 24, 2021 7:32pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Beds made? of course! And when or if they finally do get a State House, Jaspinda will have support groups to come around and make the beds, do the washing
    
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    February 24, 2021 5:42pm
- Maxx
  
  PM misleads the public and nods her head showing she cares while the MSM eat it up – in other news, the sky is blue.
  
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  February 24, 2021 10:19am
- PeeJay
  
  This has been going on for years – just first time in a long while that someone from the media has actually bothered to look into the numbers reported. HNZ did this for years and Kainga Ora are just carrying on the fine tradition – anyone working with or for them could tell you they went on a massive buy up of units for sale prior to their annual reporting.
  
  Their development programmes always missed targets, so a few months prior to the end of the financial year, the acquisition teams went on a buying spree – you wouldn’t believe the crap they bought all to try and hit the forecast ‘numbers’. In South Auckland in particular, developers could almost bank on being able to get rid of their dregs around that time! And then rinse and repeat next year.
  
  But hey……cool new name, so problem sorted right?
  
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  February 24, 2021 11:04am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    cool new name Kainga Ora?
    Literally: Family living. Where’s the housing?
    
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    February 24, 2021 12:50pm
krazykiwi

Which ‘difficult to get explain’ statistics will the Ardern government ‘adjust’ today, in time for tonight’s news cycle? This trick solved child poverty yesterday. The possibilities are endless.
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February 24, 2021 8:10am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Get the results then change the criteria.
  Maybe we could get each kid to write down 100 answers.
  and
  The examiners could read them and set the questions accordingly.
  Everyone gets 100%
  
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  February 24, 2021 8:18am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    or they could all just write
    42
    Isn’t that the answer to the question of life the universe and everything?
    ake author Douglas Adams’s popular 1979 science-fiction novel The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, the first in a series of five. Toward the end of the book, the supercomputer Deep Thought reveals that the answer to the “Great Question” of “Life, the Universe and Everything” is “forty-two.”
    
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    February 24, 2021 2:14pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I was hoping 42 would be the months she was in office – there is still time ….
      
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      February 24, 2021 5:52pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  No stats today – but Orr’s got a OCR call — Robbo could try massaging that?
  
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  February 24, 2021 8:20am
  - pdm
    
    Orr and Ardern are kindred spirits.
    
    Maximum personal publicity – zero results that benefit New Zealand and its people.
    
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    February 24, 2021 10:58am
- Happychappy
  
  I am sure KK that if asked there would be plenty of us that comment on this blog that could come up with 50 blatant lies the Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has told in her nearly 4 years as the Prime Minister of New Zealand and the sheep will just laugh and continue to vote for her.
  
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  February 24, 2021 8:38am
  - Gravelroad
    
    But, but, but @happychappy – did you not see dear Leader on Seven Sharp last night giving a bed time story about the lost rabbit at the airport?
    So lovely. So kind. Such wonderful profile delivered by state TV.
    Funniest bit was when the TV entertainers turned up at the child’s house to surprise him with his long, lost toy. Turned out he had a couple of identical models anyway.
    As I was watching in a state of cringe, I could not help but think how similar Ms Ardern’s performance was to that of the gormless Alice in the Vicar of Dibley.
    
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    February 24, 2021 11:12am
- Paulus
  
  But Jacinda is always right so she will have a good explanation for the increases in child poverty.
  It’s the Virus see !
  
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  February 24, 2021 8:40am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Very tricky, that virus!
    
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    February 24, 2021 9:39am
    - oldfella
      
      Loddenthink, the virus is not only tricky, but very useful. People on KB have been saying this for some time, and now even Bloomberg has finally caught up.
      ++
      “Virus Hands World Leaders Sweeping Powers They May Never Give Up”
      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-25/virus-gives-world-leaders-sweeping-powers-they-may-never-give-up
      
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      February 24, 2021 10:35am
  - Maxx
    
    Yep – I’m sure the new cases in Auckland will today justify upping the lockdown level again which will lead the news.
    
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    February 24, 2021 10:24am
igm

Sorry family, you appear to be wrong colour, wrong religiom, and self-sufficient!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/124321596/skilled-migrant-desperate-for-his-wife-and-children-to-join-him-in-wellington
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February 24, 2021 8:12am
- Sacha
  
  Come on Faafoi!
  What game are you playing at?
  Get your act together and let these families of valuable contributors to our society in.
  I reckon it would take at most a couple of days for Immigration to make a list, commandeer the quarantine rooms (yes!), and advise the families to get a flight to fit.
  
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  February 24, 2021 9:01am
  - oldfella
    
    Yeah, come on Faafoi. You let in the partner of that Mexican Green MP. What will he contribute to this country?
    
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    February 24, 2021 10:38am
    - igm
      
      Oldfella: Like the rest of the leeches he will contribute nothing . . . but he sure as hell will live a life of Riley at taxpayers’ expense along with his LGBGT husband.
      
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      February 24, 2021 1:32pm
hullkiwi

When did playing the yo-yo (badly) become a must have skill set for a prime minister?

When did political complacency, lying (badly) and throwing out destruction stories become the must have skill sets for a Director General of Health (to see these skills on display, watch Bloomfield’s interview with Garner after 7.00am)?
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February 24, 2021 8:14am
- hullkiwi
  
  Destruction should be distraction. Bl**dy predictive text and not rereading before hitting post, sorry.
  
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  February 24, 2021 8:39am
  - The Proper Ghandi
    
    I think “destruction” still works vis a vis Covid lies.
    
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    February 24, 2021 10:55am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Yo-yo. Suits Jaspinda. Spins one way, then the other way
  
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  February 24, 2021 5:56pm
Maggie Pie

No wonder the UK is in the mess it’s in 🙁
According to a twitter bestie, this footage shows the beach landing in Kent just a few hours ago, of yet another boatload of illegal immigrants.

Each and everyone could well be a Covid superspreader!
Where are the border forces ??

https://twitter.com/BLANOsVideos/status/1364171979843121154
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February 24, 2021 8:15am
- RW Capitalist
  
  They have made (the Americans) holes in the boarder wall, allowing Illegals through.
  In a few months they will wonder why the drug problem is back to where it was and covid has ha yet another spike.
  
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  February 24, 2021 8:20am
  - curry4me
    
    RW Capitalist: And the human trafficking too. It was down under President Trump.
    
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    February 24, 2021 11:47am
  - ISeeRed
    
    OK, I need to ask this. Why is misspelling “border” as “boarder” so prevalent nowadays? It never used to be.
    
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    February 24, 2021 12:01pm
    - Matt Long
      
      Probably a function of auto correct. Border is a swear word.
      
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      February 24, 2021 2:04pm
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Dyslexic digit?
      or is that
      exslicdyl ditig?
      
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      February 24, 2021 2:16pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I think ‘boarder’ is correct. It is something that come to your house, and won’t leave until thrown out
      
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      February 24, 2021 5:59pm
- Martin Williams
  
  Don’t worry, returning British holiday makers are spreading way more.
  
  These refugees appear confused though. Why would you wear a life jacket while entering the country with one of the very worst Covid responses and the very highest death tolls from the pandemic.
  
  One action seems counter to the other…
  
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  February 24, 2021 8:25am
  - krazykiwi
    
    UK’s lockdowns were recently ranked for severity against those of more than 120 other countries. They were, IIRC, in the worst/strictest 3. I’m glad you agree that this type of authoritarian overreach is ineffective
    
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    February 24, 2021 8:50am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Kk, catch this morning’s news. Johnson announces when lockdown measures will end, and the first thing the Brits do, is book their holidays for the summer in the Med. So, like last year the Europeans will go to the Med, party up large and spread the virus like they did last summer. The Brits and the Europeans behave in this manner every year, and why should Covid change the habits of the sheeple?
      
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      February 24, 2021 9:02am
  - kowtow
    
    Illegal immigrants.
    
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    February 24, 2021 8:53am
  - The Proper Ghandi
    
    They are coming from Europe, Martin. They are illegal immigrants, not refugees.
    
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    February 24, 2021 10:56am
    - ISeeRed
      
      They are not even “immigrants”. That word still has a ring of legality and legitimacy to it. They are illegal aliens. Foreign trespassers. International squatters. Outside intruders.
      
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      February 24, 2021 12:04pm
- I remember when
  
  Darren Grimes Tweet:
  ‘We’ve had one of the world’s most successful vaccine rollout schemes, yet will be one of the last nations to reopen.
  It just doesn’t make sense and is driving folk to utter despair.’
  They need Jacinda to show them how!!!
  
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  February 24, 2021 8:27am
  - oldfella
    
    IRW, you currently have 9 downticks! The bots are busy this morning. /s
    
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    February 24, 2021 10:41am
    - I remember when
      
      Downticks are just Upticks that have lost their way!
      
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      February 24, 2021 11:12am
- Benedict Yu
  
  While the woke hate it, Australia has reduced its illegal boat arrivals to zero by making it certain that such arrivals will end up in some hell hole in PNG. The UK could do exactly the same. Put them on some freezing islet in North Scotland. And simply say “Anyone can go home whenever you like”. Very quickly arrivals would drop to zero.
  
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  February 24, 2021 8:30am
  - WaveyDavey
    
    Heh! Real life has beaten you to it:
    
    “Syrian refugees want to leave safe haven on remote Scottish island because ‘it is full of old people waiting to die”
    
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1501918/syrian-refugees-want-to-leave-safe-haven-on-remote-scottish-island-because-it-is-full-of-old-people-waiting-to-die/
    
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    February 24, 2021 9:07am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Bute is hardly a remote Scottish Island… It’s in the Firth of Clyde… a short ferry ride to the mainland…and 50km to Glasgow.
      
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      February 24, 2021 9:49am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        All of Scotland would count as remote for the Sun.
        
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        February 24, 2021 10:04am
      - kowtow
        
        Being as close as 50 k’s to Glasgow should be enough to put anyone off.
        
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        February 24, 2021 12:15pm
      - lifesgood
        
        Still bloody freezing in winter.
        
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        February 24, 2021 12:17pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    I only for see one problem in your logic
    the
    “Put them on some freezing islet in North Scotland”
    Most of these Islet’s in North Scotland, also house some of the best Whiskey distilleries in the world.
    
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    February 24, 2021 2:20pm
- WaynelSexton
  
  They’re just as British as Johnny Wilkinson, now they have set foot on the magic dirt.
  
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  February 24, 2021 9:55am
Yvette

National leader Judith Collins is calling for New Zealand to deport an Australian woman who’s refusing to take a Covid-19 test in managed isolation.

What, then, will Collins want to happen to any New Zealander who actually declines to be vaccinated – about perhaps 25% of the population as recent polls would indicate.

As some regard the Treaty to be an answer to all things, even if not all was in fact apparent at the time of signing, can any principle of protection for Māori actually be meet if large numbers refuse vaccination, especially perhaps that this will be the decision of a number of Māori, as well as non-Māori?

Can Collins outline the financial liability that may befall the nation if the Treaty fails to protect Maori?

The three “P’s”, as they are often referred to, are the principles of partnership, participation and protection. These underpin the relationship between the Government and Māori under the Treaty of Waitangi. These principles are derived from the underlying tenets of the Treaty.
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February 24, 2021 8:15am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Kia ora
  
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  February 24, 2021 10:24am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Pointless.
    
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    February 24, 2021 12:54pm
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  While no doubt this current government is uninterested in protecting our rights if they conflict with their plans, and they can change the legislation with a bare majority, the BoR Act 1990 affirms (not gives us) our right not to be subjected to medical or scientific experimentation (s10) and our right to refuse to undergo medical treatment (s11).
  
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  February 24, 2021 11:03am
- slernz
  
  Twenty-five percent of people may not get vaccinated? That is OK, it is their choice. However, there will be consequences for them. I believe many countries will ban travellers who are not inoculated; airlines may also not allow passengers who are not inoculated to take international flights. People who are not inoculated may become modern-day lepers; shunned by many in society, cancelled and unfriended on Facebook. I am looking forward to the next few months seeing what unfolds, there will be laughs aplenty.
  
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  February 24, 2021 11:38am
  - Diogenes
    
    I am not intending at this stage to take the vaccine. I am prepared to be a modern-day leper.
    
    “Shunned by society” : I am of an age where I don’t need to care about what society thinks of me. I care about my family, my friends, my church community, and their care for me will not be dependent on whether I take a vaccine. And God will not shut me out of heaven because I don’t have a vaccine passport.
    
    “Cancelled by Facebook”: I have been weaning myself off Facebook — it’s time has come and gone, and I couldn’t care less what it may or may not attempt to do to me. Most of my Facebook “friends” are actually little more than casual acquaintances. I use Facebook for very little now; I prefer other means of communication, like phone calls. Incidentally, how will Facebook know whether or not I have had a vaccine? If they have a way of knowing, that is one scary thought.)
    
    I am a superannuitant, and manage on that reasonably well. I receive a small weekly honorarium for some work I do for a community trust, and as most of that work is computer based I strongly doubt they will require me to have a vaccine.
    
    So, slernz, bring on the laughs.
    
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    February 24, 2021 2:20pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  one problem at a time
  refuse vaccine
  no entry into or back into NZ
  Foreign nationals…deport
  NZers….into MIQ with you
  
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  February 24, 2021 2:23pm
- Unity
  
  The meaning today of the Treaty doesn’t compare one iota with the original Treaty which was only to bring Maori under the same laws as the rest of us. At the time of signing we were being run from NSW and didn’t annex from them and become a country in our own right until 16 May 1841. All this current nonsense about the Treaty is a blatant fraud. It’s been reinvented. Also, today’s Maori are not the people who signed the Treaty. They have intermarried and most are more ‘other’ than Maori. It’s time we were taught the truth as this lie is costing us millions.
  
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  February 24, 2021 4:53pm
Rusty

The govt wants to solve child poverty like the housing problem and endless other causes they deem as problems in NZ.

Who said it was their job to be the ultimate problem solver in the first place?
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February 24, 2021 8:18am
- KevO'Brien
  
  That’s what they are paid for. Who else has the job?
  
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  February 24, 2021 8:48am
  - kowtow
    
    Parents’.
    
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    February 24, 2021 8:58am
  - hullkiwi
    
    They are not paid for solving “problems” they imagine or create. They are paid to represent.
    
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    February 24, 2021 9:51am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Executive Government is the sworn function of Her Majesty’s Ministers. If all they are, are representatives, who makes the decisions, initiate action, supervise and takes responsibility for that? The so called Public Service have lapsed into sycophants and rendered mainly useless likewise. The are to advise and bring to being assigned tasks.
      
      Once there were Labour Governments who actually governed and Dept’s like the MOW actually did things like build hydro dams. They solved problems and were not the problems themselves.
      
      National need to wake up too. Govt means action and is not all about feeling good. The more vigorous the better. New Zealand is being allowed to self destruct. Dollops of $50M by the govt to the media must be considered as corrupt bribery. How can anyone have a different opinion to the hopeless rulers in that regime? COVID will go to climate change lock down because it heals the planet and makes Gates richer. Oop’s, Gates, ever the eugenicist, wants you out of the way if your not of adequate quality and supportive of him and his elite mates.
      
      The time for inattention is over.
      
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      February 24, 2021 1:16pm
  - The Proper Ghandi
    
    The role of the state is to use its collective power to achieve the things that individuals cannot achieve for themselves, due to the scale of the matter at issue. Defence of the realm, for instance. It is not the role of the state to micromanage everything to the minutest detail, with individuals and families abdicating all responsibility to the state. The cause of child poverty is bad parenting, usually intergenerational.
    
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    February 24, 2021 11:08am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    With responses as these, no wonder we got a Do-Nothing gobblement.
    
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    February 24, 2021 12:55pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Just the 2 words “personal responsibility”
    The best job a govt. can do is
    1. Stay out of the way of the people.
    2. Clear the way in front of the people
    3. Protect the people from those that would harm them or their advancement.
    
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    February 24, 2021 2:25pm
- artemisia
  
  Voters and others who want taxpayers to cater for their every need.
  
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  February 24, 2021 8:48am
  - kowtow
    
    Teddy Bear cultists.
    
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    February 24, 2021 11:26am
Martin Williams

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What does our host and KBers think of the the LNP covering up the rape of Brittany Higgins. I haven’t seen a post about it yet.

I remember there was a lot of criticism of the Labour Party for not having systems in place to deal with such incidents and I wondered if they’d like to excoriate Scott Morrison in the same way they did Jacinda Ardern?
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February 24, 2021 8:18am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It’s a F***ing disgrace…
  
  https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/brittany-higgins-liberal-party-scramble-after-deleting-disgusting-facebook-comments/news-story/45c7b4103dab255bcc83e0986e656bbe
  
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  February 24, 2021 8:49am
  - Sacha
    
    I have just read that grubby and sensational article.
    The only comments I have to make are that: it is well known that alcohol loosens inhibitions, especially those of young women, and predatory men have long used it to satisfy their sexual ‘desires’. It’s not just politicians –
    And young women should be warned of the dangers of the alcohol/men combination, and if they choose to ignore them, then so be it. We all do silly things, but sometimes they have unintended consequences and we must take the blame ourselves.
    
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    February 24, 2021 9:20am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Slut shaming.
      
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      February 24, 2021 9:27am
      - Loddenthinks
        
        Calling her a slut – classy as always
        
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        February 24, 2021 9:49am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Yes, Sacha was not very classy there, was he?
        
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        February 24, 2021 10:06am
      - The Proper Ghandi
        
        Sluts gonna slut, mike. Like it or not. 2nd wave feminist Camille Paglia (hardly a mysogynist) often stresses the point that women cannot expect to remain totally blame-free, when they give off every signal (verbal or non-verbal) that they are seeking and consenting to sex. You cannot always blame the lion for devouring the guy wearing a meat suit while walking through its enclosure.
        
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        February 24, 2021 11:15am
      - Sacha
        
        Don’t be silly mike.
        When has it ever been wrong to point out to the young that there are risks in life – which can be avoided if they are careful.
        The shame is that some parents these days DON’T think to teach their children. And some adult children seem to feel no responsibility for their own sexual safety – apparently it is everyone else’s fault if things go wrong, AND SOMEONE MUST PAY!
        
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        February 24, 2021 12:27pm
    - oldfella
      
      Sacha, nothing is your own fault. Someone else is always to blame. Strangely, not sure I ever heard that growing up. Must be a new invention. /s
      
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      February 24, 2021 10:46am
    - Bob
      
      Sacha, you should know that in NZ any misfortune event of an individual is someone else’s fault
      
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      February 24, 2021 12:14pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Why should we indulge this distraction from our incompetent Ardern R. here in New Zealand?
  
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  February 24, 2021 8:51am
  - MCos
    
    So you’re saying we shouldn’t be paying any attention to stuff that is not only going on offshore, but anything here that doesn’t make the PM look bad, for example Simon Bridges white anting of the caucus leadership? Kev
    
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    February 24, 2021 9:45am
    - Happychappy
      
      MCos still trying to blacken Simon Bridges name just like he did when Tova O’Brien used Jamie Lee Ross and his bullshit to do political hits for Jacinda Ardern.
      
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      February 24, 2021 1:17pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  You do realise that sexual abusers and harassers of female staff are found across the political spectrum, don’t you?
  
  The handful of Labor women who are also alleging privately to me that they have been victimised are also staying schtum. Their reasons include that they don’t want to damage their side’s chances at the next election.
  
  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-23/brittany-higgins-sexual-assault-fourth-allegation-parliament/13178072
  
  Familiar story?
  
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  February 24, 2021 10:00am
  - SB2
    
    Yes “,sexual abuses and harassers of female satff “is politically blind.
    
    But when it does happens on the left an awful amount here on KB appear to get decidedly priggish.
    
    Why is that?
    
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    February 24, 2021 10:37am
    - JibberJabber
      
      St Lukes Mall resident Ogler in Chief chimes in ↑
      
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      February 24, 2021 11:09am
    - The Proper Ghandi
      
      It’s politics, stephieboy. It’s a battle, and in a battle, hypocrisy is a legitimate tactic. If they do it: bad. If we do it: don’t talk about it. Why should one side attempt to be wholly consistent, when the other side never attempts consistency? That’s a losing strategy.
      
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      February 24, 2021 11:19am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      All I know SB2 is that when I posted items about authorities covering up reports of girls and young women being sexually abused, you launched a load of personal attacks against me labelling me as racist and an alt-righter.
      
      Why did you do that?
      
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      February 24, 2021 12:03pm
- EssenX
  
  Politicians and their staffers should not rape or abuse others, whether they are drunk or not, male or female – it should not happen, full stop. Your host and most KBers would agree with that.
  
  What’s really interesting, Martin, is that the Australian media – including those that could be labelled conservative or ‘right’ – are excoriating the LNP and Morrison in a way that our media never will with Ardern. This is because some people on the left would prefer to sweep “minor indiscretions” under the carpet rather than potentially hurt a popular prime minister and distract from “progress” and the “greater good”. I absolutely detest this tribal sort of politics, which is on the rise and it won’t be long before we see polarisation in NZ similar to that which is occurring elsewhere.
  
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  February 24, 2021 10:12am
  - oldfella
    
    EX: it’s like the woman who accused Joe Biden of a serious sexual assault, but was largely ignored by the lefty MSM. To be fair, ’60 Minutes ‘ did do an interview with the accuser, but it was ’60 Minutes Australia’. The US ’60 Minutes’ wouldn’t touch the Aussie version, or do their own story. And no one in the MSM challenged Biden about it, even though Kamala Harris said she believed the accuser, before shutting up and taking the VP job.
    
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    February 24, 2021 10:54am
I remember when

Judge Becroft bemoaned the number of children being born into poverty.
This raised the question of how many people living in poverty are having children. Rather than how many parents are slipping into poverty because they have had a child.
Are there two problems rather than one.
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February 24, 2021 8:19am
- cmm
  
  Perhaps there is a single underlying problem: poor judgement and impulse control.
  
  People with poor judgement and impulse control are more likely to take the loser offramp on the highway of life and are less likely to form effective careers, relationships etc.
  
  People with poor judgement and impulse control are less likely to think about their obligations to their children and are less likely to control their fertility.
  
  People with poor judgement and impulse control are less likely to budget well and are more likely to end up broke every month – even with the dole.
  
  Where these all intersect is child poverdee.
  
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  February 24, 2021 8:53am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    It is wise to reward poor judgement and impulse control?
    (You will get more of it.)
    
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    February 24, 2021 8:57am
- igm
  
  Maybe if these breeders realised if they can’t feed them, don’t breed them . . . I am sick of seeing these pregnant, bludgers sittting around smoking and frivolicking when decent respectable women are either home looking after their households or at work.
  Cut the DPB and other taxpayer-funded top ups and there will be no need for Becroft and his leeches.
  
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  February 24, 2021 9:03am
  - MCos
    
    You’re a mean spirited bastard.
    
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    February 24, 2021 9:47am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Particularly as he receives a welfare benefit himself.
      
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      February 24, 2021 10:08am
    - kowtow
      
      Easy to be generous , with other people’s money.
      
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      February 24, 2021 10:18am
    - The Proper Ghandi
      
      MCos
      Deflect all you like, but he’s correct. Is it not “mean spirited” to expect people who behave appropriately to cough up endless dosh for those who have no intention or ability to do so?
      
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      February 24, 2021 11:24am
      - sooty
        
        Would it be better to fund birth control,
        Rather than the millions of money spent on other things!
        
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        February 24, 2021 12:22pm
      - Sacha
        
        The govt could help a lot of people understand their family responsibilities if it capped Family Support at 2 or 3 children.
        More than that, and you’re on your own.
        
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        February 24, 2021 12:36pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Breeding by ethnicity and socioeconomic decile: For Maori the poorer you are the more kids you have, for asians the poorer you are the less kids you have. Pasifica and Europeans are generally pretty flat until they get to a big uptick at the poorest decile where baby-farming is a big thing thing for all ethnicities except Asians.
    
    Pretty fucked that middle classes are having to pay poorest to have kids that they can’t afford to have themselves. Truly a theft.
    
    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1177083X.2018.1534746
    
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    February 24, 2021 3:45pm
G152

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I see where the Maoriori are finally getting justice.
Kick all the plastics off the Chathams as they have no rights to the land where their ancestors butchered and enslaved the inhabitants.
Come to think of it there are places and people in New Zealand who would have to do a lot of moving to redress ancient grievances
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February 24, 2021 8:22am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Here’s the speeches on the first reading of the Moriori Settlement Bill
  
  https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/combined/HansDeb_20210223_20210223_20
  
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  February 24, 2021 8:46am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Interesting that our Maori Party friend took off his hat when speaking in that debate, but not when making a contribution on behalf of his party to the Notice of Motion about the Christchurch earthquake.
    
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    February 24, 2021 10:29am
- Scott Hamilton
  
  ‘I see where the Maoriori are finally getting justice’
  
  Your concern would be more convincing if you could spell Moriori.
  
  ‘Kick all the plastics off the Chathams as they have no rights to the land’
  
  A pretty large number of the Moriori living on Chatham are also Maori, with ancestors who invaded in 1835, so under your rule they’d have to deport themselves. Moriori leader Maui Solomon has said he is tired of Pakeha using Moriori as a stick to beat Maori with. Perhaps you should heed his words.
  
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  February 24, 2021 8:55am
  - Jack5
    
    A “pretty large number of the Moriori” are also Maori AND also White.
    
    Much of the Maori proportion of the genes likely is similar to the White genes of the majority of Black Americans: a result of master-slave relationship, in this case Maori master and Moriori slave.
    
    (Roughly relevant: about 4 per cent of White Americans have Black genes, according to a Harvard study reported in 2014. The American Journal of Human Genetics reported, also in 2014, that the average African-American genome is 73.2% African, 24% European, and 0.8% Native American.)
    
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    February 24, 2021 10:25am
    - Scott Hamilton
      
      And indeed, one Moriori family is part African American. Chatham was incredibly diverse in the 19th century, with people from round the world washing up there. But non-Moriori blood didn’t mean Moriori weren’t discriminated against by the state, for example in the 1870s court hearings that robbed them of 97% of their land, and in the 20th century propaganda published in School Journal about their being an inferior pre-Maori people. Hence the Waitangi Tribunal’s Rekohu Report and the Treaty Settlement.
      
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      February 24, 2021 10:52am
      - Jack5
        
        So, Scott, you are saying that taxpayers in fact didn’t compensate Moriori descendants for the genocide and enslavement perpetrated by Taranaki Maori before the Treaty of Waitangi?
        
        That taxpayers paid up $18 million because the colonial government didn’t abolish Maori-established slavery and land injustices soon enough; as well as for post-Treaty transfer of land titles – presumably sometimes, or even often, to Maori conquerers or their descendants?
        
        That the Crown, that is New Zealand, apologised for post-Treaty actions to the by-then part-Moriori and Moriori population, while Taranaki Maori have never been expected to apologise to Moriori for the genocide, enslavement, and land seizure? [Isn’t this a bit as though British, Americans, and Russians were forced to apologise to the Jewish people for not reaching the death camps sooner?]
        
        That Taranaki Maori, as with other Maori slave owners, were never held to account for their brutality because the colonialists didn’t arrive soon enough to be blamed?
        
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        February 24, 2021 11:22am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        This emphasis on the School Journal item seems to be just a distractor for the mass slaughters and starvation of the Moriori which reduced their population significantly.
        
        I recall nothing about Moriori being referred to as an inferior people during my schooling.
        …and that wasn’t because I was unaware of the Moriori or the Chatham Islands.
        
        My uncle went to the Chathams in 1959 as a relief teacher.. My family was due to fly over to spend that Xmas with him and my cousins.
        The Flyingboat crash in the Te Whanga Lagoon put an end to that summer venture.
        
        I was due to undertake a botanical inspection of Pitt Island some 20 years later, but Lands & Survey decided they wouldn’t risk sending me when I told them I was pregnant! (The good old days in the NZ Public Service).
        
        I finally got to the main Island just after the opening of the Kõpinga Marae.
        https://chathamislands.co.nz/see-do-stay/culture-history/kopinga-marae/
        
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        February 24, 2021 11:43am
      - Scott Hamilton
        
        I think we’ve been through this before Jack. You should read the Treaty settlement and the Rekohu report, or read some of the speeches in parliament today. Moriori have been compensated for the fact that the Crown repeatedly ignored their pleas for intervention in the 1840s and ’50s, for the fact that the Crown gave nearly all Moriori land to Ngati Mutunga in the 1870s, despite the fact that Ngati Mutunga had left Chatham Island by the end of the 1860s, and for the fact that the Crown promoted the myth that Moriori were an extinct and inferior people in the 20th century, through the NZ School Journal.
        
        I agree that Ngati Mutunga o Wharekauri should apologise to Moriori; they’ve got bugger all money so they can’t pay any compensation; Moriori are by far the richer group. But I found that talking with Ngati Mutunga o Wharekauri about this is like talking with redneck Pakeha. You just get a bunch of stuff about history should be in the past, how we’re all one people now, how we should look to the future, how Moriori are on the indigenous gravy train, and so on.
        
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        February 24, 2021 12:55pm
Maggie Pie

My partner is so loyal he doesn’t even watch porn with girls in it.
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February 24, 2021 8:33am
Maggy Wassilieff

When are we going to bubble-up with Australia?

“I’ve always hoped Prime Minister Ardern would return the favour to NSW because we’ve certainly been accepting New Zealanders since October/November last year,”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/124338604/return-the-favour-nsw-premier-sends-strong-transtasman-border-message-to-jacinda-ardern
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February 24, 2021 8:41am
- KevO'Brien
  
  These are Federal matters surely.
  
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  February 24, 2021 8:53am
Swifty

Great New Zealanders you may not have heard of.

Bernard Diederich:

https://oztypewriter.blogspot.com/2015/12/the-great-new-zealand-journalist.html

https://www.nationalpressclub.org.nz/content/292-greatest-living-adventurer-dies

“The Great New Zealand Journalist Bernard Diederich: Melville, Conrad, Hemingway and HST All Rolled Into One!…”
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February 24, 2021 8:44am
- Sacha
  
  Great article. We met Bernard Diederich back in the ’50s, when in our early 20s, and followed his adventures for many years afterwards.
  I never knew of his early life – a ‘kiwi’ upbringing that often seems to produce men of outstanding character and ability – and lost track of his later career.
  
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  February 24, 2021 9:44am
  - Swifty
    
    Wonderful.
    
    What a life.
    
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    February 24, 2021 10:06am
- Jack5
  
  Bernard Diederich gets good coverage in a recent, praised biography of Graham Greene: “The Unquiet Englishman”, by (unrelated) Richard Greene.
  
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  February 24, 2021 10:15am
Ruahine

A great piece from Peta Credlin concerning the forced de-industrialsation of the West. Well worth a listen.

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6234563387001
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February 24, 2021 8:46am
Saks

I think I’m outraged…

Was booked in for a scan on an injured shoulder, only to be advised “just letting you know that it will be a Male sonographer, are you ok to continue with the booking?”. Now I have an undoubtedly Male sounding name and talking to me on the phone would leave no doubt as to my gender. Why would it be of any importance as to the gender of my medical professional for a non invasive procedure on my shoulder?

Intrigued, I asked why this was being declared and if they would have told me if it was a female sonographer? The answer? No. We only advise if its Male.

What so a Male is now a bad thing and it is ok to decline treatment from one? Imagine if I refused treatment from a female because she was a female… I’m guessing I would be redirected to the far queue and probably have my national health number cancelled.

I then asked whether they would advise me if my sonographer was gender non binary. At this point I had exceeded the intellectual capacity of the person booking me in as well as my welcome apparently!

Perhaps it would just be easier to advise that my scan will be carried out by the non gestational sonographer…
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February 24, 2021 8:47am
- MCos
  
  I’m guessing here, but they probably never get anyone objecting to anyone other than males performing these procedures. So to cover all the bases they ask the question.
  Every now and then you see in the court news someone is charged with molesting patients so I suppose some people are a bit nervous.
  
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  February 24, 2021 10:03am
  - Saks
    
    As always, make decisions to please the minority, at the expense of the majority.
    
    NZ – a reverse democracy!
    
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    February 24, 2021 10:37am
    - MCos
      
      “At this point I had exceeded the intellectual capacity of the person booking me in as well as my welcome apparently!”
      
      Sometimes it’s just easier for everyone just to go with the flow rather than pick a fight with the messenger.
      
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      February 24, 2021 2:24pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  May be a female sonographer who uses he/his pronouns…?
  
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  February 24, 2021 10:34am
hullkiwi

Impertinent questions for Ashley.

1. The Pullman case in Northland late Jan, we were told was the South African strain. The latest cases in Sth Auckland, we were told is the UK variant. So, why did Bloomfield say in his interview with Garner this morning they were the same strain? How can this be?

2. When news of the South Auckland cases broke, we were told: a) it is the UK strain, b) it is new to NZ, and c) a possible cause could be a face mask. If, all of this is true (which I am now doubting). The person who brought the virus strain into NZ should have been in MIQ over the past 4 weeks. In fact, given how few people come in on each plane, they should have isolated the potential cases, and by now those people should have had 2 tests and shown positive if they were breathing the virus into a face mask. None of this has happened, so the basic question is what haven’t we been told?

My guess is MIQ is not what the politicians, Bloomfield and the media have been telling us. Indeed, my view is that the “song & dance” about MIQ been just that, a “song & dance”, and that there are people who are resident of South Auckland, that have been coming in the border without going into MIQ? There is no other explanation for undetetected cases to be in the community.
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February 24, 2021 8:56am
- hullkiwi
  
  My theory also explains what happened last August.
  
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  February 24, 2021 9:12am
- Happy1
  
  Hulk, you misunderstood Bloomfield, he said that today’s case was linked to the previous Papatoetoe cases. They are not linked to any cases found in isolation. The mother worked in a laundry which handles laundry from airplanes. It is suggested that this was the source. Transiting aircrew are not tested so no one would know if one of them had this particular bug.
  
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  February 24, 2021 9:23am
  - hullkiwi
    
    No, I didnt. Yes, he said yesterday’s cases are all linked to the original Papatoetoe cases.
    
    However, he specifically referenced the Northland case (twice) He said (twice) that the Northand case and the current are the same strain. Which I agree, does not reconcile with what has previously been said.
    
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    February 24, 2021 9:43am
- artemisia
  
  Yesterday afternoon the media (HDPA) asked Minister Hipkins about the rumour of two more community cases. He was not aware and obfuscated (poorly). Turns out the rumour was true.
  
  Minister for Covid-19 Response – you have one job.
  
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  February 24, 2021 10:04am
Scott Hamilton

Troubling to see Kelvin Davis threatening a protest group and a fellow MP with prosecution for inciting a riot. The Free Speech Coalition should take up this case. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/124337458/corrections-refers-prison-pamphlet-to-police-over-concerns-it-might-incite-riot
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February 24, 2021 8:57am
- kowtow
  
  Lefty, racebaiter infighting, always entertaining.
  
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  February 24, 2021 9:08am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    No one does infighting like the Left!
    
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    February 24, 2021 12:58pm
- The Housekeeper
  
  The protest group is People Against Prisons Aotearoa (PAPA). I’m not sure whether to laugh or cry at their website.
  
  https://papa.org.nz/our-kaupapa/
  
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  February 24, 2021 9:33am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    How about:
    
    Help
    All
    Rehabilitating
    Downtrodden
    Ethnic
    Reformers
    
    People
    Against
    Prisons
    Aotearoa
    
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    February 24, 2021 10:26am
  - The Housekeeper
    
    “They were burning the unit down to take a stand for future generations”
    
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    February 24, 2021 10:28am
    - kowtow
      
      Such socially motivated lads ……..//
      
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      February 24, 2021 11:24am
- Jack5
  
  Scott, this is akin to the issue, often cited by you Leftists when freedom of speech is being discussed, to yelling – falsely – “fire!” in a crowded cinema.
  
  It is covered by other legal restrictions, as you well know.
  
  Incitement of a slew of offences is covered under the Crimes Act, including such foreign practices as inciting female genital mutilation.
  
  Scott, your participation in Cancel Culture, rules you out as a supporter of freedom of speech.
  
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  February 24, 2021 9:44am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    How, exactly, do you think Scott doesn’t support free speech?
    
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    February 24, 2021 10:09am
    - Jack5
      
      Scott’s capable of defending himself, Milky, so piss off and troll somewhere else on the thread.
      
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      February 24, 2021 10:29am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Just wondering if you think ‘cancel culture’ ie, objecting to someone’s views, is the same as denying free speech.
        
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        February 24, 2021 11:29am
      - Jack5
        
        Milky, you are the living whack-a-mole of the blogosphere.
        
        An example of how Scott’s Cancel Culture infringes on free speech?
        
        Scott’s hectoring of an Akaroa restaurant owner to change the eatery’s name from Bully Hayes, because Hayes was, more than a century earlier, a nasty pirate.
        
        Scott’s Cancel Culture pressure for renaming streets that carry the names of (White) land wars soldiers.
        
        Cancel culturists want to override the right of citizens to assign naming words of their choice to businesses, streets, and, in the case of New Zealand’s Hamilton, cities.
        
        Cancel culturists don’t say: “we dislike the names of X or Y or Z”. They demand they be changed. They don’t want discussion. They demand change. Cancel culturists aren’t interested in freedom of expression, speech, writing names – except for themselves.
        
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        February 24, 2021 12:39pm
      - The Proper Ghandi
        
        Cancel culture is not simply objecting to someone else’s views, it is taking the additional step of silencing those views. On this basis, cancel culture is identical to denying free speech. They are one and the same.
        
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        February 24, 2021 12:56pm
Tony Stuart

Breaking news: Tiger Woods has been involved in a single vehicle wreck in Los Angeles, and is currently in surgery for “multiple leg injuries”.

Given his recent back surgery, and barring a Ben Hogan-like comeback, could this be career-ending for Tiger?
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February 24, 2021 8:57am
- Tony Stuart
  
  He didn’t half make a mess of his car!
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/golf/300237830/tiger-woods-has-surgery-for-multiple-leg-injuries-after-single-car-crash-in-la?fbclid=IwAR2Y99dDr4REqDRSnfK8ITri8uYLPMI4X93VBnFRywiJkux-kfsa-e9xE8I
  
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  February 24, 2021 9:28am
- Maggie Pie
  
  People saying he even looked buzzed in this TV interview….
  
  https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1364305909263052802
  
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  February 24, 2021 9:39am
- cmm
  
  He’s had few recent incidents including being found drugged up in a motor vehicle.
  
  I’m not saying he’s trying to top himself, but he does seem to be getting a bit careless about preserving his life in the last wee while.
  
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  February 24, 2021 10:37am
  - kowtow
    
    Brand Tiger Woods doesn’t do the brand any favours .
    
    Pretty hard for the sponsors and media pardy to cover up spectacular crashes.
    
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    February 24, 2021 11:22am
    - sooty
      
      Hope he’s better at putting, than driving!
      
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      February 24, 2021 12:33pm
  - Tony Stuart
    
    He had one incident , in 2017.
    
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    February 24, 2021 1:10pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  Tiger needs to learn how to “drive”!
  
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  February 24, 2021 3:58pm
Bill Felt

Statistics: Gang numbers up 47.5% under Labour

Thank you Ardern.
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February 24, 2021 9:04am
- alex Masterley
  
  No doubt the Prime Minister will shortly appoint a Gang Liaison Minister to oversee all interactions between the crown and gangs.
  Willie or Kelvin would be leading candidates for the role.
  
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  February 24, 2021 9:14am
  - Frank Thomas
    
    Never a truer word said in jest….
    
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    February 24, 2021 9:29am
    - Parnell Gun Club
      
      Exactly. This is already the de-facto position so they may as well make it official.
      Government agencies are already enabling, facilitating and perpetuating gangs and their activities. WINZ, Housing NZ and the Police are all in “partnership” with them.
      I regard the activities of gangs to be harmful and detrimental to society. These government agencies are brazen in their complicity.
      
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      February 24, 2021 10:02am
      - sooty
        
        I thought Andy Coster already had that job!
        
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        February 24, 2021 12:34pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Nah, next time these numbers come out there’ll just be a “recalibration” of what constitutes gang membership showing that the numbers have actually gone down.
    
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    February 24, 2021 10:12am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Simon Bridges is just so disrespectful to the Police Commissioner
  
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  February 24, 2021 10:37am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Andy ‘Cap’ Coster 😀
    
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    February 24, 2021 11:21am
    - sooty
      
      Maggie Pie, you missed the R in that sentance!
      Andy “Crap” Coster! Fixed it for ya!
      
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      February 24, 2021 12:37pm
    - Paulus
      
      Did I not understand that Coster was at school with our Wonder Woman ?
      
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      February 24, 2021 2:02pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I very much doubt it…
        He’s an Auckland boy…. King’s College education.
        
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        February 24, 2021 2:44pm
  - kowtow
    
    While the Politically Correct Kommissioner is so disrespectful to middle New Zealand .
    
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    February 24, 2021 11:52am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    It would be hard not to be. Why has the Commissioner ignored his oath and not dealt with unlawful Maori activists occupying land? The Maori blocking roads seem to be law breakers too.
    
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    February 24, 2021 1:27pm
- Martin Williams
  
  Thank you ~~Ardern~~ Australia.
  
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  February 24, 2021 10:57am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    Heh, might I suggest that you approach Aussie voters directly (possibly use a targeted Facebook campaign).
    
    The injustice of sending criminal NZ citizens in Aus back to NZ is an issue of massive importance to the average Aussie voter and a sure fire vote winner for any Aus political party that chooses to pursue it…
    
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    February 24, 2021 11:36am
- oldfella
  
  Anyone know the percentage of Maori in our gangs?
  I assume it would be 90% or better.
  
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  February 24, 2021 11:17am
- kowtow
  
  What crimes and who were the victims of each of those criminals “earning” their “patch”.
  
  Our Media Pardy are very soft on the real story.
  
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  February 24, 2021 11:20am
- GJM
  
  And apparently the Ozzie imports are a miniscule part of the gangs.
  Nice PR spin media but BS. It ignores the Ozzie gangs setting up here and carving out their patch. It also ignores the fact that many of these are experienced, ruthless and have the contacts and aren’t thick local dropouts. The influence far exceeds the numbers.
  
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  February 24, 2021 9:27pm
Maggie Pie

Alison Mau, senior journalist with Stuff, has been covering this most intriguing court case of the ‘wealthy businessman’ on trial for sexual assault and trying to pervert the course of justice, since it first began.
My partner reckons he knows who the accused is, but because of suppression orders wont even tell me! One of the girls from tennis was saying she thinks they might even live in her street. How embarrassing.

https://twitter.com/NZStuff/status/1364127865302786053
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February 24, 2021 9:14am
- Jack5
  
  Maggie Pie, you slipped into using the plural “they,” Woke style, to refer to the businessman on sex charges. ??
  
  Or, or … have you heard some sort of rumour that multiple personalities are/is being offered as a defence?
  
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  February 24, 2021 10:02am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Can’t say much for obvious reasons Jacko….
    but no, not ‘multiple personalities’. More like ‘multiple weirdos’ from what we’ve heard 😀
    
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    February 24, 2021 11:00am
Happychappy

Ok this is a pamphlet but really what about Kelvin Davis and his accusation that a Judge is wrong in his ruling of actions taken by Corrections staff and two woman prisoners, isn’t that giving Maori the same chance to abuse those that make decisions against Maori.
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February 24, 2021 9:20am
JibberJabber

Vote Labour, Celebrate Failure

https://twitter.com/Megan_Woods/status/1364092419612938242
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February 24, 2021 9:22am
- burt
  
  12…. At that rate they should get to 1,800-4,000 in about 200-350 years.
  
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  February 24, 2021 9:55am
Jack5

Some interesting ideas on solving New Zealand’s housing problem, including creating a (presumably small-scale) New Zealand version of Vonovia, which rents 400,000 dwellings across Germany, Sweden, and Austria.

This is one of the points at the Landlords web site. I’m not a landlord, but it’s an interesting site.

If there’s anyone awake but not aWoken at National, apart from Bridges, they should read this article for ideas:

https://www.landlords.co.nz/article/976518192/opinion-a-solution-for-nzs-housing-crisis
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February 24, 2021 9:31am
- kowtow
  
  Time to stop importing uber drivers and liquor store clerks.
  
  As easy as that.
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/property/109159/government-will-need-consider-immigrations-effect-housing-demand-it-starts-reopening
  
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  February 24, 2021 10:13am
  - oldfella
    
    kowtow, also stop importing movie projectionists. That Mexican fellow was so unskilled he became a Green MP.
    
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    February 24, 2021 11:24am
    - kowtow
      
      Low grade international students , who drop out , like the Mexican did should be deported .
      
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      February 24, 2021 12:13pm
      - hullkiwi
        
        Exactly. Dropped out, Visa should have been cancelled.
        
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        February 24, 2021 9:25pm
Maggie Pie

Imagine if your MiL was Iranian 🙁

The ‘SunUK’ reports….

https://twitter.com/NatashaFatah/status/1364245766886293505
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February 24, 2021 9:48am
- kowtow
  
  Kicked away the chair . That’s not death by hanging ,that’s torture .
  
  No wonder she had a heart attck if she had to watch 16 men die slowly in front of her .
  
  What’s our MSM and “kind” gubmint got to say about that .
  
  They’ve found an easy target in Burma , I guess they don’t buy much in the way of our exports.
  
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  February 24, 2021 10:52am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Yep, This will be another Foreign affairs Blunder.
    With China pulling the strings.
    We already had a “shot accross the Bow” with China banning 2 seafood plants in NZ.
    You really need people who understand the World stage instead of spouting out nonsense.
    NZ has a very weak underbelly and ripe for foreign interferrence.
    Interesting response to Burma from ASEAN countries. They know which side of there bread is buttered.
    Heading into Yangon tomorrow again, Running the Gauntlet.
    
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    February 24, 2021 3:13pm
    - Master Mariner
      
      Bloody internet.
      Not sure how this ended up here.
      Apologies. Should of been in other article about Foreign Affairs.
      
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      February 24, 2021 6:24pm
- The Housekeeper
  
  Maggie, I read the Sun article which was chilling but as it was the Sun I googled crane executions in Iran. I feel sick. That humans could even imagine such cruelties beggars belief but when they are state-sanctioned they plummet the very depths of human depravity.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_executions_in_Iran
  
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  February 24, 2021 10:56am
- Ruahine
  
  ‘We’ must respect other ‘peoples’ culture.
  Perhaps the Green member of Parliament Golriz Ghahraman could enlighten us all on this aspect of Iranian Culture.
  
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  February 24, 2021 11:13am
- Justitia
  
  “They R Us”.
  
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  February 24, 2021 11:42am
burt

Did the government cancel the latest payment to the MSM, what do they think they are doing publishing stats like this that don’t pretend the government is doing well.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/124306169/half-of-new-public-houses-not-actually-new-stock
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February 24, 2021 9:54am
- mandk
  
  Careful Kirsty!
  
  The PM will put on her most frowny face when she reads your piece.
  
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  February 24, 2021 10:07am
  - burt
    
    If it’s not published in The Spinoff she won’t even know it exists.
    
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    February 24, 2021 1:31pm
- greybeard
  
  But Megan Woods is still blaming the last National Government !
  
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  February 24, 2021 10:52am
Swifty

Was in the car yesterday arvo and caught a snippet of an interview on RNZ. The subject was the poverty figures just out and the interviewee was banging on in a way that caused me to think he was some unionist or poverty campaigner such was his prescription for resolving this issue.

Anyway I was interested enough to listen to the full piece once home and bugger me if the interviewee wasn’t Andrew Beecroft!

I can’t recall being so disappointed with such an influential person’s contribution to matters of such significance. His prescription?

1. Higher benefit payments
2. More government-built housing
3. Railed against the lack of a capital gains tax
4. Suggests ‘rent regulation’ and rent controls

Not a single observation as to why we have insufficient housing in the first instance. Not a single observation as to why we have the unemployment rate we do. Not a single observation about the fact that around the world rent controls are universally derided as counter-productive. Not a single mention of the clearly unsustainable growth of government spending which is taking even greater amount of dough from NZ families’ pockets. Not a squeak about the greater and greater amounts of regulation and cost government heaps on business; throttling their ability to grow and take on more staff. Not the merest whimper about the fact that nearly 40% of our school leavers are functionally illiterate and of whom the majority are Maori or Pacific.

I could go on and on.

Beecroft is advocating for BAD public policy (and I note not a single note or caution or concern from Wallace Chapman or the panelists) in that it is all treatment of symptoms – and not addressing the fundamental CAUSES. If we started looking at the causes then we might get somewhere.

The full interview here as from the 1.00 mark.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=2018784808
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February 24, 2021 10:04am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Social Justice Warriors don’t do economics. Beecroft is good in his paddock but lost outside it. Without a productive economy govt’s can only give handouts from borrowing. All the largess sprinkled round for extra holidays etc. has to come out of somewhere-you or your grandchildren. I know enough small businesses barely hanging on and the dole rate will go higher. The COVID lock down has done enormous damage.
  
  Child poverty for many comes out of an inability to cope. Rising prices make budgeting difficult and children get what’s available. With some it’s a bad choice by parents but every generation has parents criticised for that and partly for non-compliance with current social mores.
  
  In NZ benefits are generous. There is little reason why beneficiaries should expect to live at a superior grade of living when with care it is possible to exist and even have a holiday. It is not well known how many possible payments WINZ makes. If a car needs fixing a loan may be available. Teeth will likely have a free subsidy. The biggest problem is the individuals and not everyone can avoid having to be worse off some times than others.
  
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  February 24, 2021 1:48pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    Was he any good as a judge? Given the utterances I’ve heard from his mouth, I doubt it.
    
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    February 24, 2021 9:29pm
Fletch

Biden has reopened the border cages for kids that Trump shut down. Media don’t much care this time. Refer to it as “migrant facility for children” now that Trump isn’t president.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/02/23/wapo-biden-admin-torched-over-re-opening-of-migrant-facility-for-children-amid-border-uptick-1033779/
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February 24, 2021 10:04am
oldfella

Anyone else noticed this latest begging-bowl pitch from Stuffed? What’s going on? ‘New Zealand’ is in the header, they also use the term ‘New Zealanders’, and NO mention of Ayoteearower. Has the worm turned?
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Whether you visit Stuff for hard-hitting investigations that hold the powerful to account or lighthearted stories to lose yourself in, it is our mission to provide trustworthy reporting for all New Zealanders. If Stuff is an important part of your day, please join other loyal readers in supporting our independent journalism.”
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February 24, 2021 10:31am
- Joely Doe
  
  Nah, Stuff is still well and truly Woke / Stuffed.
  Just a bit awkward to use “… ‘Aotearoan’ owned” and ‘Aotearoans’.
  Bet it is coming though.
  
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  February 24, 2021 11:03am
Swifty

Joel Maxwell continues his race-baiting:

“This year, about one in 11 Pākehā children in the survey lived in material hardship.

One in five Māori children lived in material hardship.

One in four Pasifika children lived in material hardship.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/124331004/mind-your-ms-and-ps-when-youre-talking-about-child-poverty

Hey Joel, how many (NZ) Chinese kids live in material hardship? If you’d care to look into this Joel, you’ll find many of the answers you seek.
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February 24, 2021 10:48am
- Surely Knott
  
  Shouldn’t that be one in 11 pakeha children who IDENTIFY as european live in Material hardship. One in five who IDENTIFY as maori live in hardship.
  
  How does statistics NZ’s survey work that neatly categorises you into one race when most people are a mix of races?
  
  Stats nz says that Maori population increased by 17,100. 12,700 of that is new babies. And the remaining 4,400 are migration and “inter-ethnic mobility (those changing their ethnic identification to include Māori, minus those no longer including Māori in their ethnic identification).”
  
  So more people who previously identified as something else, are now identifying as Maori. Surely with the government giving significant housing grants education and health priority by race then you are now incentivised to identify as that race. Particularly if you need those housing grants and government services.
  
  The issue of how you identify (race and gender) is an interesting one and how that will impact on statistical measures.
  
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  February 24, 2021 12:00pm
I remember when

Why is there serious questioning of the success of use of masks for covid prevention in Sweden, while we are demanding their use in New Zealand.
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February 24, 2021 10:58am
- Don Beckett
  
  Masks are useless – don’t achieve a thing except infect the wearer with a potential viral load.
  
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  February 24, 2021 11:50am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Correct, there is a reasonable body of research on the use of cloth masks and the scientific conclusion is quite unequivocal – masks are ineffective in preventing the spread of a respiratory virus.
    
    People advocating for masks are either terminally stupid or malicious. May as well make people where yellow stars on their clothes – same reasoning and same reason.
    
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    February 24, 2021 12:15pm
  - SB2
    
    Don Beckett, as Covid 19 denier Trump would say from personal expereince.
    
    LOL
    
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    February 24, 2021 3:01pm
- Tall Man
  
  Because they are a country of intelligent adults being led by a government with intelligent adults.
  
  We on the other hand …….
  
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  February 24, 2021 4:36pm
Maxx

Arderns captains call is the gift that keeps on giving with Methanex having to mothball one of their plants in Taranaki.

Oh well, I guess the shortfall of methanol now in the world market can be made up by clean burning coal.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300237857/methanex-mothballs-waitara-valley-methanol-plant-job-losses-expected
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February 24, 2021 10:59am
- Ian Boag
  
  The plant has interesting history. Back in the day when the Maui field was discovered there was a need to create a large use for gas in a relatively short time because the govt had a take-or-pay contract with the field developers.
  
  There was talk of expanding CNG use and LNG transport to the South Island. In the end they decided to go with the mobil gas-to-gasoline process. It looked like the price of oil was on a one-way up so the sums sort of made sense. GtoG was done by turning the gas into methanol, then running it through a small plant on the end that turned the methanol into gasoline. The overall conversion efficiency was not particularly flash – CNG in vehicles worked better from that point of view. It was a Think Big thing.
  
  We led the world. NZ was the first (and AFAIK) the only place to buy this technology. The gasoline sums apparently never worked. Eventually they turned the gasoline bit off and suddenly NZ was a methanol producer.
  
  It was built primarily as a way to soak up a large lump of gas that was coming on the market. Now the world has changed …
  
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  February 24, 2021 2:32pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    Good comment Ian, Was not Methanex going to be used for carriage of Hydrogen and hence stay in operation once all these “Utopian” plans were enacted.
    
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    February 24, 2021 3:20pm
    - Ian Boag
      
      The first step in methanol production is steam reforming which produces hydrogen. This is how most of the world’s hydrogen is made. I suppose they could make hydrogen from the remaining gas instead of methanol ….. dunno.
      
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      February 24, 2021 6:39pm
I remember when

‘Tomorrow’s World: Are you ready for the Great Reset?’
‘One such vision gaining great traction is being called the”Great Reset”. If you don’t know about it yet, you need to, as some of the most powerful men in the world are seeking to make it a reality.’
If the Right Wing were doing it, it would be called helping your (extra) ‘Rich Mates’.
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February 24, 2021 11:09am
Maggie Pie

Up for a bit more of old ‘Joe’ this morning? LOL

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1364008103834869762

80,000,000…….YEAH RIGHT!
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February 24, 2021 11:16am
- Ed Snack
  
  At some stage, all the fools who supported “bad touch” Biden and speciously claimed that he wasn’t already largely senile are going to have to admit that they were wrong. Be interesting to see how they deal with it.
  
  And you’ll have President Harris – the candidate for POTUS who was so unlikeable that she couldn’t even get to the first Democrat primary vote before dropping out.
  
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  February 24, 2021 12:18pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING…

‘Judith Collins reins in Simon Bridges over ‘wokester’ comment’

Simon for PM!!
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February 24, 2021 11:30am
- Gravelroad
  
  Absolutely Maggie Pie.
  Should never have been booted out of leading the National Party in such a gutless way in the first place.
  
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  February 24, 2021 11:34am
  - lifesgood
    
    The National party panicked. They drank the koolaid of the left who had their knives out for Simon only because they were terrified of how good he is. Gutless behaviour, National. Not cool.
    
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    February 24, 2021 2:14pm
- Justitia
  
  I’m over Collins – absolutely useless, and why is Muller still hanging around, not to mention Goodfellow? National will never win by blending into the socialist wallpaper.
  
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  February 24, 2021 11:46am
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  That just confirms to me that Collins needs to go. She is tone deaf. She’s been given her chance and has failed spectacularly.
  
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  February 24, 2021 11:52am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Interesting to hear of several recently retired Police officers on Peter Williams’ programme this morning, united in their disappointment in Coster, and some of the decisions coming out of PNHQ, aka Bullshit Castle.
  
  Bridges’ criticism of Commissioner Coster would appear to be right on the money, and it will be worth watching Coster’s appearance at the select committee tomorrow morning.
  
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  February 24, 2021 1:21pm
- SB2
  
  MP, we live in desperate times.
  
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  February 24, 2021 3:06pm
oldfella

Oh, Canada! Well done. Even though Cindy’s mate, well known soy-boy, Justin Trudeau, refused to grow a pair and abstained.
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Canada’s parliament declares China’s treatment of Uighurs ‘genocide’
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56163220
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February 24, 2021 11:36am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6y4OemBGk
Beiing Bidens ‘administration’ in Action.

Mr Garland has never visited the Southern border. He
Knows about human trafficking, and the working of
Drug cartels gaming the system.
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February 24, 2021 11:38am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwdtJIspIv0
Biden is Letting Iran Win Against US to Simply Spite Trump and Heal Obama’s Ego.

Beiing Biden is pursuing this Iran deal to spite President Trump, and stoke Obamas ego.
[I guess this time the Mullahs will get Bitcoin, rather than cash.]
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February 24, 2021 11:38am
mikenmildagain

The latest Kiwis Count Survey shows 69% of New Zealanders trust the public service, a major increase from 51% the previous year and the highest result since the survey began in 2007.

“New Zealand’s public servants deserve to feel proud. They are the least corrupt and most resilient government workforce on the planet, and their fellow citizens place well deserved faith in them,” says PSA National Secretary Kerry Davies.
“You learn who your friends are during a crisis, and 2020 taught us all how much we rely on well-funded, well-organised public and community services. The people of New Zealand have been protected from the pandemic by border workers, health workers and so many other public servants all over this country.”
The Kiwis Count Survey has consistently revealed very high levels of public approval for their interactions with local councils and government agencies.
“Whether applying for a passport, filing a personal tax return or visiting the public library, New Zealanders are overwhelmingly satisfied with the service they receive,” says Ms Davies.
“Public servants are sometimes unfairly attacked by unscrupulous employers or cynical politicians, so it’s great to see a vote of confidence from the people who really matter. New Zealanders do not want their public services cut or their public assets privatised. They trust their public servants to get on with the job and help this country thrive.”
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February 24, 2021 11:45am
- Don Beckett
  
  Problem is there’s far too many of them – public servants that is. Our Communist govt. has employed so many more it stopped the unemployment rate sky-rocketing. //
  
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  February 24, 2021 11:56am
  - MCos
    
    In 2018 there was 403,000 (18%) people in the public sector.
    In the early eighties it was around a third of the workforce. Back in those days NZ was much more socialist than today in that the administrations had their fingers in every pie and controlled all manner of things.
    
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    February 24, 2021 1:19pm
    - 70andstilllearning
      
      Bit like comparing an apple to a banana. Today’s “public sector” is nothing like yesteryear’s! MOW, NZED, Telecom (part of NZ Post), etc, etc ……….. all partly or fully privatised. Also if you adjust for population growth my back of the packet calc puts the number of public sector at about 373k people in those days based on your 1/3 and 2018 18%.
      
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      February 24, 2021 2:15pm
      - MCos
        
        I think the 18% is the relevant number.
        I working in the Vogel Building for a year or so for the MWD in the Roading Division. (Now NZTA more or less)
        A friend of mine was brought out from the UK to work in the Architectural Division as an Architect for a minimum of five years. Except the office sat around all day inactive. He left and the Government wanted their money back, he refused so they took him to court.
        Bad move.
        A two page spread in the Truth about the trial detailed the evidence of a string of defence witnesses who said they were employed to work in the office, but were not given any work.
        He still lost , but never did pay the money.
        
        Years later the MWD was gone and some people I knew walked away with big payouts.
        A few days later they were working for the Consulting Engineers who picked up the public work that still needed to be done.
        
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        February 24, 2021 6:16pm
  - SB2
    
    Our” communist government” ?? So saith the paranoid and deluded of mind
    
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    February 24, 2021 3:05pm
- Swifty
  
  “New Zealanders do not want their public services cut or their public assets privatised. They trust their public servants to get on with the job and help this country thrive.”
  
  Nope. Lies. Union spin.
  
  Davies heads a parasitic organisation that would bankrupt us all if she had her way.
  
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  February 24, 2021 12:00pm
- Ed Snack
  
  Most overpaid and incompetent in reality. But it does show the advantages of having the media dominated by leftist propaganda with a complete lack of any journalism standards.
  
  The sheep will believe what they are instructed to believe – and where their useless masks as they are told.
  
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  February 24, 2021 12:21pm
  - chukar
    
    Question?
    How many workers and New Zealanders rely on government including local ,for their jobs?
    Take the consenting/ environment industry where firms such as Boffa Miskel and many many others rely on government sourced income streams for survival and yet claim to be private.
    Similar for many construction firms.
    Then we move on to the welfare industry,health sport you name it.
    Covid has also increase these streams hugely.
    
    The claim of 18% is utter bullshit.
    Government is in the pockets and purses of everyone!
    
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    February 24, 2021 5:39pm
    - MCos
      
      Don Beckett was talking about public servants. That is to say people who are directly employed by the government. (The 18% also includes local government employees)
      You are talking about contractors, who are clearly not public servants.
      
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      February 24, 2021 6:30pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Mike: I think this places a better perspective on this “release”. One quarterly outlier data point over a 10 year period? Kind of reminds me of yesterday’s poverty “stats”. 😉
  
  https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/our-work/kiwis-count-survey
  
  Perhaps Simon may have pressed a button or two with his “woke” comment.
  
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  February 24, 2021 12:49pm
- Tall Man
  
  And 53% voted for ardern.
  
  Says it all really doesn’t it. Only 16% of the workers of NZ trust the public service 😉
  
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  February 24, 2021 4:27pm
oldfella

Woman on twitter wonders if ‘my body, my choice,’ applies to masks and vaccines, or just killing babies.
https://twitter.com/thesamsorbo/status/1363922255319863306
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February 24, 2021 11:47am
oldfella

This woman is sooo talented, she would have made a great president…
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“Hillary Clinton to Put Her Name on ‘Political Thriller’ —
A few years ago, Bill Clinton “wrote” a political thriller called The President Is Missing, by which I mean James Patterson wrote it and Clinton got top billing. I’ve never read the novel and don’t care to consort with anyone who has, but I’d like to imagine it’s about a U.S. president who goes into hiding after his wife catches him with his pants around his ankles and a White House intern working above her pay grade. Plenty of rubes bought the book, though, because there’s a sequel coming out this year. And now, Bill’s furiously vindictive wife is getting in on the action. If he can have a schlocky novel ghostwritten for him, why can’t she??”
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/jim-treacher/2021/02/23/hillary-clinton-to-put-her-name-on-political-thriller-n1427656
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February 24, 2021 11:57am
- Fletch
  
  I wonder if it will be the story of a woman who lost the election because of political intrigue….
  
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  February 24, 2021 12:56pm
- SB2
  
  oldfella, so what!
  
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  February 24, 2021 3:03pm
oldfella

Seems to be the case these days that every white man who does black face is bad. Well, maybe not all of them. Lefty favourites tend to get a pass. https://mobile.twitter.com/micah_rate/status/1363270259973763082
I actually saw this movie (terrible!), but appreciated this actor doing what actors used to do once upon a time without fear or favour. You know, pretending to be someone else.
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February 24, 2021 12:06pm
Maggie Pie

Can u believe this shit!!

Magic replacing Shaun Plunkett with DANNY WATSON!!

FFS – GO WOKE GO BROKE
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February 24, 2021 12:10pm
- Fletch
  
  I don’t know much about him after Spot On
  
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  February 24, 2021 12:57pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Well look at him now 🙂
    
    https://www.tpk.govt.nz/en/mo-te-puni-kokiri/our-stories-and-media/show-me-the-honey
    
    https://www.facebook.com/seidoakl/photos/ecnf.100000305667501/1241080109241384
    
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    February 24, 2021 4:25pm
- Tall Man
  
  He started a bit soft when he first came on to ZB. A few years in the studio sorted him and he was quite reasonable when he finally walked away.
  
  I think he will be fine after a while and he has the ability to appeal to a wide range of people … in my opinon.
  
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  February 24, 2021 4:20pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Ya’ reckon? Wait till you hear him correcting callers about their ‘Moodie’ pronunciation of place names.
    
    He was the single reason Remmers switched away from 1ZB.
    
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    February 24, 2021 5:27pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Ring him up and complain about his “Kiwi” pronunciation then …….
      
      He is a black belt though 😉
      
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      February 24, 2021 8:57pm
Maggie Pie

Would coalmining be considered an inherently racist activity?

#blackface
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February 24, 2021 12:58pm
Maggie Pie

Just watched the latest Covid update.

Obviously Dr. Bloomfield’s mum never told him…..
“Stop Frowning Ashley!”

😀
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February 24, 2021 1:24pm
Tony Stuart

Newshub puts the boot into Ricardo Menéndez March:

Green MP Ricardo Menéndez March tried not once, but twice, to get an emergency spot in managed isolation, the first time as a “critical health service” and the second time as “required for national security”.

In a written parliamentary response to National MP Chris Bishop, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins confirmed that both applications for an emergency spot in managed isolation and quarantine (MIQ) were declined.

Menéndez March spent two weeks in MIQ after spending seven weeks in Mexico to be with his father who underwent major surgery and his step mum who has been battling breast cancer.

Green Party co-leaders James Shaw and Marama Davidson say Menéndez March sought approval to travel during the COVID-19 pandemic and followed the correct procedure – but questions were raised about why he sought an emergency spot in MIQ.

Spaces in MIQ are currently “extremely limited” due to high demand, according to the Ministry for Business, Innovation and Employment (MBIE), which oversees MIQ operations. The MIQ website shows spaces booked until May.

The written response from Hipkins shows Menéndez March first applied for an emergency spot in MIQ on January 13 under category 2b.

It’s reserved for people whose entry to New Zealand is time-critical for the purpose of delivering specialist health services required to prevent serious illness, injury or death; or the maintenance of essential health infrastructure.

He then applied for a second time on January 15, under category 2d, for New Zealand and non-New Zealand citizens, where urgent travel is required for national security, national interest or law enforcement reasons.

“It is extraordinary chutzpah for a new MP to claim they are critical to delivering public health services, or critical for national security. It just beggars belief,” Bishop told Newshub. “The emergency MIQ allocation is not meant to be for MPs trying it on to come home.”

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/02/green-mp-ricardo-men-ndez-march-tried-not-once-but-twice-to-get-emergency-spot-in-miq.html

The MP for Tijuana seems to have a nasty case of Entitleitis. He’s the Green Party’s Aaron Gilmore!
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February 24, 2021 1:32pm
- Maxx
  
  Its still not clear when he first applied. If he left the country with no MIQ spot allocated for his return then this is an even greater issue.
  
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  February 24, 2021 2:20pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    It was a supposed family emergency , So It would suggest not dont you think.
    
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    February 24, 2021 5:12pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Where’s my magenta?
  
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  February 24, 2021 3:43pm
DeepBlue

There’s been awareness about the potential environmental impact of Earth’s switching magnetic field for a while. Here is some actual evidence of the effects. Interesting the latest weakening started about 170 years ago, that seems eerily similar to the whole industrial CO2 argument.

https://www.newatlas.com/environment/ancient-tree-geomagnetic-field-shift-environment-chaos/
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February 24, 2021 2:09pm
- cmm
  
  The South Atlantic Anomoy (SAA) has been growing.
  
  While my colleagues mainly worry about the effects on satellites etc, there are far wider implications.
  
  The magnetosphere protects the ozone layer etc. Change the ozone layer and you disrupt the atmospheric chemistry. This has wide impact, including how various gases (especially methane) break down.
  
  The SAA has many times more impact on the functioning of the atmosphere that human-made CO2 does.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Atlantic_Anomaly
  
  https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-researchers-track-slowly-splitting-dent-in-earth-s-magnetic-field
  
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  February 24, 2021 3:13pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    One crediable hypothisis is that 2 molten balls have split and hence changing the Earths Magnetic poles.
    instead of one big molten ball in the middle of Earth.
    
    It is also of interest the magnetic field has been weakening. This is of concern to UV penetration and satilites and of course CLIMATE CHANGE.
    Not too mention Ozone in Stn hemishere.
    
    This is where Science papers should be researched and money put into such projects more thoroughly.
    
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    February 24, 2021 3:37pm
    - cmm
      
      I struggle to believe that a molten ball could split into two molten balls due to the way gravity works (it would be a bit like a full bath splitting into two parts – except a bazzilion times more unlikely.
      
      What is credible though is that the gyres (essentially whirlpool-like structures) molten core changing direction or moving or such.
      
      Yes, it indeed stuffs up satellites – especially the weakly protected ones designed to work close to the atmosphere (ie. with a lot of magnetosphere protection). Not all sats are designed for a hammering. Apparently this problem causes electronics on the space station to crash/reset.
      
      Many of the sats that we care about are geostationary and are along the equator – currently far from the anomaly and well protected, but many other sats move (and pretty fast too) – such as GPS and Starlink. They will go through the anomaly quite often and some will be resetting.
      
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      February 24, 2021 4:59pm
      - Master Mariner
        
        Yes, It does seem unnatural for “Blobs to split into 2”..
        
        Yes Geo stationary LEO ( Low earth Orbit), Used for communications etc.
        Russian GLONASS uses high Earth Orbit and go around the poles.
        
        Not too sure Galieao and Chinese system use, But would assume LEO.
        
        Interesting all the same and nowhere can it be seen to be associated with Climate Change and this definately will be I believe, In some shape and form. Especially with reduced Magnetism ( Flux).
        
        Check out the distance Mag North/South have Moved in last 5 years.?
        
        With reduced magnetism and for when Solar flares in height of 11 year cycle does not bode well for UV and Ozone, Not to mention all communications land based as its the Magnetism that protects us.
        Interesting dont you think.? NOAA have good info on there site I believe.
        
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        February 24, 2021 5:21pm
- Master Mariner
  
  I have been mentioning this for a while.
  It is of great concern and no real mention in regards to changing climate.
  The magnetic poles have reversed through out history and no one can explain why?
  Ie North Pole becomes South Pole.
  Currently Magnetic North is racing Eastwards after being relatively stable in Hudsons Bay area Canada.
  This should be at the top of the list in scientific studies as consequences are not known.
  Ive been following this for a few years now.
  And being a student of Magnetism ( Compass) in my profession I have an interest.
  This is going to be big news in following decade I’m sure.
  
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  February 24, 2021 3:31pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    This shift has accelerated in recent years – yes?
    
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    February 24, 2021 5:38pm
    - Master Mariner
      
      Absolutely, Ill find a link.
      
      https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/magnetic-north-update-navigation-maps
      https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00007-1
      
      Major “real” concern. We now have to have compasses adjusted annually due to Variation in Mag Field.
      
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      February 24, 2021 6:32pm
      - rockape
        
        I thought compasses were adjusted for Deviation, not variation!
        
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        February 24, 2021 8:34pm
      - Master Mariner
        
        Both my friend,
        Variation and deviation.
        In simplistic terms Variation is Mag North and True North.
        Deviation is ships induced magnetism .
        True
        virgins
        make
        Dull
        company
        Thats how you figure out Mag hdg and true heading.
        Dont you love Nautical terminology.
        Dont ask about the “niggers head” and for that matter about Gypsies.
        Least of all ” The Golden Rivet”
        
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        February 24, 2021 11:29pm
      - rockape
        
        I have swung compasses on both aircraft and sea going vessels and corrected for dip and deviation. But never adjusted a compass for variation as it’s variable and considerably so in higher latitudes. I remember in norther regions operating with 47 degrees of variation ! Greenland . I remember walking down a pontoon in Nelson were a mate was having his compass swung on his 50 ft yacht. The adjuster was struggling even to produce a deviation card. It was ok once I pointed out the electrical fan on the other side of the wooden bulkhead on which the compass was sited.
        
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        February 25, 2021 3:19pm
      - rockape
        
        I have swung compasses on both aircraft and sea going vessels and corrected for dip and deviation. But never adjusted a compass for variation as it’s variable and considerably so in higher latitudes. I remember in norther regions operating with 47 degrees of variation ! Greenland . I remember walking down a pontoon in Nelson were a mate was having his compass swung on his 50 ft yacht. The adjuster was struggling even to produce a deviation card. It was ok once I pointed out the electrical fan on the other side of the wooden bulkhead on which the compass was sited. Ps I thought we had to use “Cadburies Dairy Milk Very Tasty “ to be PC these days!
        
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        February 25, 2021 3:23pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Yep,
      
      Recent north magnetic pole acceleration towards Siberia caused by flux lobe elongation
      https://www.nature.com/articles/s41561-020-0570-9
      
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      February 24, 2021 9:00pm
cmm

If Bridges hadn’t walked out he should have been kicked out.

Calling Mallard a twat is stating the obvious and should be seen as an unacceptable waste of parliamentary time.
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February 24, 2021 3:17pm
Maggie Pie

My partner bets they’d taste like shit raw anyway….

https://twitter.com/V_actually/status/1363652865097629706
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February 24, 2021 3:21pm
- cmm
  
  I suppose it’s softer than kitty litter.
  
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  February 24, 2021 4:00pm
Maggie Pie

And I wish Christopher Luxon would stop saying… “I guess”

Somebody needs to tell him it’s not a f- -king guessing game.
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February 24, 2021 4:00pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/wellington/124343946/three-20th-century-wellington-sites-given-heritage-status
I sincerely hope that in the next 24 hours we have a bloody great earthquake which will flatten all of these monstrosities.
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February 24, 2021 6:20pm
- Tall Man
  
  And the people in them?
  
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  February 24, 2021 9:00pm
Maggie Pie

Just sitting in the conservatory and having a Rum & Coke before dinner.
Saw the News of the car crash Tiger was involved in.
My partner reckoned he was trying to ‘act less white’
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February 24, 2021 6:27pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Meme from FB.
“The only reason our Government would want to disarm us after 243 years, is because they are planning to do something to us that we would shoot them for. That folks, is the truth”
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February 24, 2021 6:30pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The Great Reset. Wtf is Gates up to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg0c2x74mgU&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR1wkYZ0ezp9kLkPgwuKPyUY88D-e-i9Xn3i_V_cYpVsSCAD3jx2IxWTlaA
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February 24, 2021 6:39pm
gorse

I am probably on my own with this rant.

The Covid “crisis” has become a game of one one-upmanship for the Wests Governments. The population are the pawns in this game. Our Government have tried to take the King position – elimination. This is the highest position in the world as no one else has it, we nearly have. Other Governments, eg UK, US, try to minimise it and have killed their economies doing so. Their leaders, on a world stage, look like they are up there. Not as good as ours though, nearly eliminated here. This will go on and on as each “leader” tries to outdo the others.

The end result of this, and historians one day will record, is the end of the Western economy. The biggest and best in all of human history.

Let the leaders battle it out, I would rather be out of this exercise.
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February 24, 2021 6:41pm
- Tall Man
  
  Nope, not on your own.
  
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  February 24, 2021 8:59pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Phuck.
Years from now, some of you will look back & admit that you spent an entire year of your life wearing a mask, cooped up in your house & avoiding all the people you love. ? A year in your life that you’ll never get back.
Every single day is a risk.
Car accident, flu, etc.
Our days were numbered from the moment we took our first breath. Life isn’t a race where we win against the inevitable! That has not changed since the beginning of time!
BUT, we should not be forced to live in fear.
We went from being a free nation to being told we:
? couldn’t go to school
? couldn’t go to church
? couldn’t go to our grandma’s house
? couldn’t pay respects to a loved one through a funeral
? couldn’t leave our homes
…and when we were allowed to do these things, we were told:
? how long we could be there
? how far apart we have to be
? which direction to walk
? what to wear
? what we can buy/not buy
? where we could shop/not shop
? whether we could sing/worship/take communion
? what time we had to be home
Yes, our health matters.
But you know what else matters?
✅ Family.
✅ Friends.
✅ Church.
✅ School.
✅ Sporting events.
✅ Family vacations.
✅ Neighborhood BBQs.
✅ Life.
✅ Fitness.
✅ Hugs.
✅ visiting the hospitalized
Etc..etc…
? One day, you’ll hug your grandma, mom, dad, or brother for the last time.
? One day, your best friend will cry on your shoulder for the last time.
? One day, your child will play their last ball game.
? One day, they’ll have their last day of school.
? One day, you’ll spend your last day laughing with a loved one.
? One day, you’ll dance your last dance.
Don’t waste the days you have by living in fear.
Your time here on earth matters.
Live your life while you have the chance.
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February 24, 2021 6:55pm
Jack5

Good post at Karl du Fresne’s blog …

Relaunch of Free Speech Coalition planned – this time as the Free Speech Union, an incorporated society.

Quote from a letter by the coalition’s Jordan Williams:

“We recommend the reorganisation as a Union to recognise that freedom of speech is being threatened by broadcasting and other media employers.

“It is threatened by social media providers.

“It is threatened by professional associations and HR departments demanding that people sign up to new ideological statements, some of them negating scientific or religious orthodoxy.

“It is threatened by universities, hospitals, businesses that are expressly declaring themselves intolerant, rejecting the necessary self-restraint of people with power, and abandoning humility about what is true and what may not be true.”

https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/
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