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March 12, 2021 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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Greg Ettridge

You have meeting, then delay announcement.
These people are just out of control, freaks.
Not one entrepreneurial thought amongst this gaggle of thoughtless hopeless idealists.
They must feel so proud sticking it to a whole city for as long as they can stretch out the fear, shock, and awe.
What a disgraceful exhibition of power and manipulation.
The sheep just suck it up, but for how long.
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March 12, 2021 8:00am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  There is that word again – ‘control’
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:03am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    AAHHH
    falling for the distraction.
    While you are all begging mummy to drop Auckland to level 1.
    You are failing to ask ….When we will dispense with all this “level restriction” and get the govt. OUT of our lives?
    We employ them to “REPRESENT US” not for them to control our every move.
    Even a “level zero” leaves the “level” system and tracking etc on the statutes to be increase at any whim of the naked empress, denuded of ideas, foresight, talent and even work ethic.
    
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    March 12, 2021 8:20am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      The Cabinet are sworn in as members of HM’s Executive Council.
      
      The govt are not merely representatives. Those seeking the top jobs must have executive ability as they have to decide and fund options for action and carry those out through their Deptl Heads.
      Way beyond fishnchip ladies.
      
      Those offering themselves for the task of MP need to be vetted for suitability. Ideology and access to the exchequer are not sufficient.
      
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      March 12, 2021 8:30am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        And how would you ‘vet’ candidates?
        
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        March 12, 2021 8:42am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        I agree with the vetting for ability but…….
        They apply for the job of MP at the election and all speak of representation, but many, forget that the second they attend that “HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES”.
        Even their meeting place is named for the JOB, they are supposed to do there.
        
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        March 12, 2021 8:49am
      - Nickc2
        
        Agree Kevin but who within this Govt has the talent to do what is required of a PM? I certainly can’t spot anyone.
        
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        March 12, 2021 9:11am
      - Flossie
        
        Those on the Party List are really not applying for the job to represent us – just to represent their party. To get the good ones or refuse the others you have to vote for,or not for, the whole party
        
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        March 12, 2021 9:12am
      - Nigel Kearney
        
        The way I would vet candidates is as follows:
        
        I would have people called journalists. They would assess and compare the candidates and write up the results. Voters would then be able to use that analysis in deciding what party to vote for.
        
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        March 12, 2021 10:18am
      - sooty
        
        But where do we find these people called journalist? They all died out years ago and were replaced by those woke soy boys and lickspittle
        (wo)men.
        
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        March 12, 2021 10:50am
      - Sacha
        
        I agree. Candidates for selection should bring some degree of specialisation or at the very least long experience in their field of work. Along with general intelligence, an ear for other people’s opinions . . . . . . . . and common sense..
        I don’t think that, for instance, working in the community housing-for-the-homeless group, is a qualification. Well, maybe it would be if the candidate had 20 years of successful intervention.
        What I loathe is the number of people who get into Parliament on the Lists, who have nothing to offer but their own convictions about/how other people should live, and what they believe is good for them
        Add: sorry Mike (below). I think I may have inadvertently
        reported you.
        
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        March 12, 2021 12:18pm
      - Master Mariner
        
        Simple,
        
        All should be phychometric tested and results published.
        
        If you have facebook / twitter profiles then why not.
        
        The great thing about this is they can learn more about themselves and put in place tools for there development.
        A no brainer. Should be compulsory for all Government / Council employees, Board members, Working groups , whether private or public should be a priority .Getting the mix right for it efficiently function. Instead of diversity, Gender equality etc .
        
        This is how to get Results.
        
        I would imagine it be interesting reading character profiles on this lot.
        
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        March 12, 2021 2:12pm
    - Apropos of the Wet Snow
      
      The answer is never. Since the idea is now established, the alert levels will never be removed. You will note that our current “terror alert level” is medium. This system was implemented 20 years ago after 9/11, yet the system has never been rescinded.
      
      https://www.nzsis.govt.nz/our-work/counter-terrorism/national-terrorism-threat-level/
      
      Don’t expect the equivalent virus alert levels to be completely gone in two decades either, if ever. They were not using the phrase “the new normal” without a reason. “Perpetual/indefinite threat” and “mission creep” are the relevant concepts.
      
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      March 12, 2021 8:31am
      - Crisplion
        
        I’m afraid you might well be correct. And we might also expect a ‘climate alert level’ system to come into play. After all we are already in a state of ‘climate emergency’. Ardern has discovered that scaring the bejesus out of people is an excellent way to make them accept authoritarianism … and she is, at heart, an authoritarian despite her facade of ‘kindness’.
        
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        March 12, 2021 9:04am
      - Apropos of the Wet Snow
        
        Yup. Fear is the most powerful emotion we have. If people are frightened enough, they’ll accept almost anything, no matter how onerous or odious the consequences.
        
        Think in the abstract: would any of the so-called covid response measures be acceptable to you absent the flimsy pretext we have been given? Unlikely.
        
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        March 12, 2021 9:20am
    - namron
      
      Are we due for any opinion polls?
      When was the last one – seems to have been months ago.
      Do you think the “Poll people” are too frightened to show us that jacinda is not our favourite person any more?
      
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      March 12, 2021 10:21am
      - Southtop2
        
        not finished resetting yet – be kind
        
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        March 12, 2021 1:11pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        We do not have ‘opinions’ Only the media do – and I thought their job was to report the news.
        ‘No matter what we say, no matter what we do, the polls don’t change’ Which socialist play school TV1 pretender said that?
        
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        March 12, 2021 3:27pm
  - Paulus
    
    And 53% of the voters gave her that control and will have to suck it up – for now, but pride goes before the fall, more like rank arrogance, and she is well towards it.
    Going to be a long cold Winter of our discontent made known.
    
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    March 12, 2021 8:23am
    - Gravelroad
      
      One of the main tools the government has used to keep control, goodwill and the “fear factor” is via the doling out of money.
      The kindness of money works wonders for the fearful.
      Many, many people can get Covid related subsidies one way or another, whether that be by direct donations or through food banks and similar.
      Very few care where this money actually comes from as long as it keeps coming.
      Those basement money printing machines are in overdrive.
      Let’s hope there’s no technical breakdown because I don’t think Ms Ardern and her merry band have the ability to fix it. But they must in order to keep the comfort of free money flowing.
      Turn off the money. See what happens.
      
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      March 12, 2021 10:29am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    “The problem isn’t that Johnny can’t read. The problem isn’t even that Johnny can’t think. The problem is that Johnny doesn’t know what thinking is; he confuses it with feeling.” -Thomas Sowell.
    Jaspinda knowsthis – and milks it.
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:58am
- Frank the tank
  
  There are far more sheeple than you realize that enjoy this perverse shit show. (little) Aotearoans love the whole process – these are the same type of person that would rarely travel out of their suburb therefore closing the country to the rest of the world is like a full body orgasm for them.
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:06am
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    This proves the truth of a major tenet of Conservatism: the fixity of human nature. We don’t all think exactly like these people, but, be it 5000 years in the past or 5000 years in the future, we never lose that primitive and ineradicable part of our psyche, aka our “lizard brain.” We can all potentially be lead about by those with an agenda who know how to stimulate that area, usually with fear or the associated sense power of control over others. All that is necessary is for a significant proportion of the populace to be thus affected. It’s a significant explanatory factor in all of the atrocities that have occurred throughout history.
    
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    March 12, 2021 8:47am
  - kowtow
    
    The psychology of the whole thing is interesting , innit .
    
    I suspect a majority love being part of the team , to buy into the idea that they’re doing their bit .
    
    A bit like the post modern version of “what did you do in the war” . Now it’s “I played my part in Covid’s downfall”
    
    Like the tweens virtuously marching for the climate , their parents now have wuflu activism .
    
    And the political class know how to both activate and exploit this “spirit’ with all their talk of “front line ” workers , sacrifice , death , mobilisation etc
    
    Well count me in as a conscientious objector to this particular bun fight . No doubt field punishment No 1 won’t be far off ……..
    
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    March 12, 2021 8:51am
    - Apropos of the Wet Snow
      
      This goes to the comments I and others posted yesterday: it’s a religion, as is climate change fanaticism. We can deny it all we like, but it won’t change the fact that all of us have a religious urge, a need for transcendence beyond our individual selves. What is the real difference, in principle and effect, between Ardern at her Podium of Truth and the preacher at his? The main difference is that Ardern is a fallible human being like all of us yet is the primary focus of the adoration, whereas at least a preacher is ostensibly a mere conduit of a higher power.
      
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      March 12, 2021 9:30am
  - Ruahine
    
    Cactus Kate had a great post on this yesterday in her blog. Just so true.
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:26am
    - SB2
      
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      Another Katie Hopkins Pauline Hanson wannabe!
      
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      March 12, 2021 10:35am
      - ISeeRed
        
        You say that like it’s a bad thing.
        
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        March 12, 2021 11:18am
      - Fuzzysnuggleduck
        
        even if that were even true, far better than a drive-by small-brained troll.
        
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        March 12, 2021 11:24am
      - SB2
        
        IseeRed.
        
        A bid thing?
        
        Yes!
        
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        March 12, 2021 1:14pm
- G152
  
  My niece is taking back control.
  Leaving Auckland for the milder wilder pastures of the mid North Island.
  A much recommended move for them with the skills
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:09am
- oldgolfer
  
  Not much longer, I fancy.
  The shine is wearing.
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:13am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    She has been using that “shine” (MSM created) to dazzle and blind them to the crisis
    Housing…not just rising house prices but emergency housing and housing benefits (that she said was so unacceptable in 2017).
    poverty
    unemployment
    forestry
    as they attempt to get us to focus on tourism and hospitality, while the rest of the economy does a passable impression of Atlantis (sinking).
    etc etc
    
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    March 12, 2021 8:26am
    - kowtow
      
      Energy
      Crime
      Education
      Measles
      Race division
      
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      March 12, 2021 8:52am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Sony and Cher, philosophers of our age?
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS3O5zg290k
        
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        March 12, 2021 9:49am
- Maxx
  
  Announcements aren’t timed to support business. They’re timed for voters. That’s there thinking. If you think they’ll change their spots, I have a bridge that (admittedly needs replacing) to sell you.
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:35am
  - SGA
    
    Announcements aren’t timed to support business. They’re timed for voters
    
    Often that’s probably the case. I’m not sure how I see how that works in this particular instance though. How is the timing of today’s announcement (which will annoy quite a few) better timed for voters than at prime time last night, say?
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:18am
    - godruelf
      
      I was thinking about the timing myself 11.30 Friday strange. Then I realised the Boat Race starts at 4 pm Cindy might not like the competition for the audience
      
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      March 12, 2021 10:13am
      - sooty
        
        Who thinks that by noon the gates are thrown open, whether she wants or not!
        
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        March 12, 2021 10:53am
- PeeJay
  
  I am genuinely baffled as to how the clown show and ringmaster in chief Ardern can continue to be so popular. On every single thing they have promised to do, or asked to be judged on, or been their ‘reason for being in politics, they have not only missed the goal but haven’t even been in the right stadium! In terms of results, they have been awful – you name it, kiwibuild, dunedin hospital, waiting lists, light rail, poverty – sorry – poverdee stats, so bad it’s actually hard to watch.
  
  But their popularity is as high as ever. I’ve chatted with seemingly normal folks who when I point out the magnitude of their failures, there is the slightest flicker of doubt from most folks I talk with, then normal service resumes – isn’t she wonderful they state – so empathetic and nice. What the actual fuck? This is someone that actually stood in front of millions and did a bullying hit job on some fucking kids at the last lockdown! If that is ’empathetic and nice’ I think i need a new dictionary!
  
  I suspect that until she decides she’s had enough and fuck’s off to her UN gig, we are going to be stuck with the clown show for a while yet. Got to hand it to her, she is untouchable, she know’s it and there is very little the right can do to get through to the average voter on this.
  
  As one of my favourite sayings goes, this too shall pass, but when it does, it’s going to be an almighty mess to fix.
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:49am
  - Paulus
    
    Sadly UN will not have her other than in a very minor role.
    She does not have Helen Clark’s brains or skills.
    She will remain as big top fish in this little pond with all the power she has, and wants, rather than a stickleback in a huge corrupt pond.
    
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    March 12, 2021 11:11am
    - Master Mariner
      
      The UN will have very little influence and even less after this covid crisis is over.
      
      I see the UN was playing it safe in regards to Myanmar with the ever present threat of veto power held by China in security council .
      
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      March 12, 2021 2:21pm
  - Mark
    
    Pee Jay the lady has two more election wins in her ,suck it up butter cup.
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:07pm
- Brian McDonald
  
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  Exquisite and sheeplike panic Greg. Careful you don’t run into a corner.
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:16am
  - JibberJabber
    
    You’d happily slip on a Commissars uniform tho’ wouldn’t you, Brian?
    With your experience and all, eh?
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:23am
    - Apropos of the Wet Snow
      
      It’s always the criminals and thugs who are recruited, given a uniform and weapon, then let loose as enforcers.
      
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      March 12, 2021 10:07am
      - SB2
        
        Much like SS and Stormtrooper thugs?
        
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        March 12, 2021 10:37am
      - JibberJabber
        
        Indeed Steffy, you are slowly getting the picture, there’s not a lot of difference between SS Stormtroopers and NKVD Commissars given the former are National Socialists and the latter are International Socialists.
        
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        March 12, 2021 11:52am
      - Master Mariner
        
        Correct, Eastern Europe is prime example pre 89.
        
        Myanmar most recent with letting out all criminals in jails to threaten protesters.
        
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        March 12, 2021 2:23pm
    - Fuzzysnuggleduck
      
      Yes, SB2, for once you are right. Even if don’t realise it, and you miss the point.
      
      The SA were revolutionary street fighters, and the adoption of the red in the swastika banner was no accident. It was taking aspects from Marxists. It is one reason Hitler crushed the SA, due to such revolutionary and rough edges. “There will be no 2nd revolution” he said as he snuffed out their leadership. (As the Dead Kennedy’s said to Skinheads in the sing Nazi Punks Fuck Off – “when the real ones come, you will be the first to go).
      
      The SS and the NKVD were working together under the Nazi Soviet Pact, even sharing tips on enhanced interrogation. Gulags, Concentration Camps. Tomatoe, Tomayto
      Stalin and Hitler even have recorded quotes of admiration around each other. Stalin said of Hitler after the Night of Long Knives, “what a lad!” and Hitler of Stalin, in a speech ahead of operation Barbarossa “…a monster, but in his own way quite a fellow”.
      The SS had a division which was largely recruited from criminals in the late war (due to manpower issues), effective for anti-partisan duties and later in putting down the Warsaw uprising. Some of the SS Divisions and standarten focused on political ethos and brutality over any notion of soldiering or drill. Constrast the Totenkopf with the Leibstandarte for instance.
      
      So thugs and outlaws and even sadists, then and now, are useful for revolutionary movements. Whether it be the noted former criminal element amongst the jihadis active in the West, or the anarchists and existing revolutionaries rebranding as Extinction rebellion.
      
      But then you don’t actually ponder any of this, do you?
      Yours was another lazy Whataboutism troll. That is all.
      
      Trying to turn it into a Right vs Left moral point scoring thing.
      In truth right/left extremism is not a sliding scale at all, but more a circle which meets at the middle on the extreme ends of politics.
      
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      March 12, 2021 11:42am
      - SB2
        
        What I ponder is that that if Hitler invaded Russia and Stalin lost the war would of lasted a lot longer and cost so many more lives.
        
        The SS were in fact recruited from largely ordinary Germans some of whom had high academic qualifications among many things.
        
        This makes that fact rather frightening and puzzling.
        
        How Did Ordinary Citizens Become Murderers
        
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        March 12, 2021 1:26pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        How Did Ordinary Citizens Become Murderers
        
        The exact same way that anonymous trolls on this site think they have a right to lie about and defame other citizens.
        
        Did it never enter your little head, steffieboy, that someone who had married and bred with one of Hitler’s despised groups of people was never going to belong in the Alt-right?
        
        Do you not realise that ordinary folks lying about their fellow citizens is how totalitarian and fascist regimes function?
        
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        March 12, 2021 2:20pm
      - Fuzzysnuggleduck
        
        Thanks for responding with what seems like a sincere post, SB2.
        These monsters always lurk amongst.
        The ISIS monsters reminded me of the monsters in the rape of Nanking, with their new conquered population.
        Even the National Gaurd having fun a Abu Graib could, given time, become monsters.
        There is a theory of ‘resocialisation’, and ‘diminished personal responsibility’, which means even people who arent monsters might take part in terrible deeds.
        And another theory was ‘the banality of evil’, for the likes of Adolf Eichmann. Out of uniform, an unassuming nerby type. A bank manager or accountant. But very good at making trains run on time.
        Even if you read the history of the NZ division in WW2, you will find shocking matter-of-fact shooting of prisoners ‘just like shooting rabbits’ by kiwis, and even cold blooded killings at that.
        We should not pretend the Germans are unique.
        We all have this lurking.
        Some just are more like ducks to water, when the chance comes.
        I would like to think I would refuse to shoot a mother and child, if ordered. There are very rare examples of SS balking at this, but I suspect that is why their motto was ‘Honour is Loyalty’.
        To follow the order was honour.
        Not everyone found it easy. Alcohol was used freely in down time by Einsatzgruppen. You might grow numb with time.
        It is a fair enough question: What makes a monster?
        Because the only real monsters are people.
        
        & yes, the war was won and lost on the Eastern Front. 3/4 of the German army was engaged their essentially.
        
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        March 12, 2021 3:40pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Clap, clap, clap, Maggy. Oh yes, insults in blog comments are just like the origins of totalitarian societies.
        Kudos to SB2 and Fuzzsnuggleduck for trying a reasoned discussion.
        
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        March 12, 2021 4:57pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        For SB2
        
        About 40% of the denunciations to the Gestapo were personally motivated.
        
        https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/careless-whispers-how-the-german-public-used-and-abused-the-gestapo-1.2369837
        
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        March 12, 2021 5:20pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @mikemnmildagain
        
        insults in blog comments
        
        They are not just insults are they?
        
        Some are lies.
        
        The smears and nasty/creepy sexual comments were designed to humiliate me .
        
        The constant lies about my mental condition are to harass me.
        
        I note you have failed to explain why you posted on this blog that I don’t care about the environment and why you have repeatedly tried to smear my name.
        
        But good effort in trying to minimise your abusive behaviour on this blog.
        
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        March 12, 2021 6:44pm
  - plc
    
    And Brian knows all about collateral damage….you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette
    
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    March 12, 2021 10:43am
    - david
      
      “….. would of lost the war ………”
      Appalling misuse of the English language.
      
      Can we call it an “education system” any more?
      
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      March 12, 2021 2:20pm
- Bob
  
  But the unelected ‘first fisherman’ is allowed to know the answer.
  So much for confidentiality with Adern.
  
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  March 12, 2021 10:15am
  - TWEEDSE
    
    I think that used to be referred to as pillow talk.
    
    And with that thought in my mind, time to find a bucket.
    
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    March 12, 2021 5:03pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  Business people have pointed out the earlier than usual announcement (pre-midday) is probably to allow the Cup event to go ahead in the afternoon at Level 1. Hosking said this was working on the Stockholm syndrome, and a thankful populace.
  But business commentary was not pleased, since the Government knew yesterday whether we go down or not, yet businessesy still have to prepare the extra staff and seating under the ‘three S’ for Level 2, and delaying it even to before midday the same day still has impacts on business around incurred costs anyway.
  Again it suggests the government playing with those levers are not listening, or not thinking it though, from a struggling business perspective.
  
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  March 12, 2021 11:21am
  - david
    
    A little bit of lateral thinking would not have gone astray here. Liquor Licensing requirements almost invariably call for the provision of a selection of food to be available from the Licensee. With the risk of the Alert Level not being dropped, many bars would not have geared up in either preparing or ordering food which might go to waste.
    It is quite possible therefore that many bars will be in breach of their Licences so it remains to me seen whether the Auckland City License Inspectorate will be true to their sworn duty and blitz those bars who are aqlready teetering on the brink of bankruptcy.
    
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    March 12, 2021 2:27pm
Tomtoddy

“Your Majesty, all await your momentous announcement with great anticipation and affection for your gracious consideration of thy servant’s humble predicament. Your courtiers, your media eunuchs, your pliable sycophants, your sausible harem spread throughout the land are waiting with great anticipation the kind and eminently wise words from your worthy empress. If it pleases thee the royal court will assemble before the Beehive throne awaiting the entrance of your highness.”

Interpretation: Get on with it you silly arrogant woman or we are all f…ked.
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March 12, 2021 8:03am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Impossible for her to comprehend that. Can you please translate into ‘kindyspeak?
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:05am
Paulus Gnome

I want Adhern to keep Auckland at Level 2 until Monday.

The ire generated will be the beginning of the visible downfall of her clown show government
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March 12, 2021 8:04am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Do you really think we are going to get through winter without a few more lockdowns?
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:15am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Grant might be getting a little worried–the country is quietly sliding down hill as more and more businesses are going under. Those stupid MP’s, who talk of businesses who can’t afford their wage aspirations so should not be operating, may just get their wish. What then are they going to do with the newly displaced? Unborn generations are not yet ready to feed them.
    
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    March 12, 2021 8:37am
    - Apropos of the Wet Snow
      
      Never fear, they will Build Back Better! All the world’s politicians are reading from the same script. They are destroying free enterprise and liberty in order to take control of every aspect of our lives. Dramatic? Yes. Obviously true? Absolutely.
      
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      March 12, 2021 9:00am
      - Bob
        
        Part of the ‘One World Government’ ambition of the United Nations totalitarian majority.
        
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        March 12, 2021 10:22am
    - Crisplion
      
      Easy… borrow and spend to create a multitude who, dependent on the state in perpetuity, will vote Labour forevermore. Forget Greece, Venezuela here we come.
      
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      March 12, 2021 9:08am
    - pdm
      
      Grant almost certainly does not understand the dangers to the economy.
      
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      March 12, 2021 9:39am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I doubt if he understands why he is a State Sector Employee. I can tell him. 4 hours in the private sector and he would be on the dole.
        As much use as an ashtray on a motorbike
        
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        March 12, 2021 3:31pm
    - Paulus
      
      When new minimum wage comes in on April Fools Day then all differentials will have to go up too !
      Idiots.
      
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      March 12, 2021 11:12am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        Ouch! That hasn’t been mentioned elsewhere.
        
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        March 12, 2021 12:16pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Including my hourly rate? I don’t think so Tim.
        Socialism just makes all of us equal, equally miserable
        
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        March 12, 2021 3:33pm
  - Bobba Fret
    
    Yes it is going to be interesting come winter when we are in our coughs and colds season, I believe she is going to be very unpopular if Auckland goes to level 3 every time someone catches as cold or flu.
    
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    March 12, 2021 10:16am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      She is unpopular now, but still in ‘control’ That is all that matters – control
      
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      March 12, 2021 3:35pm
- Shendy
  
  Here you go, our duly elected representative has clarified the issue for us.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-clarke-gayford-says-final-test-results-today-to-determine-aucklands-alert-level-move/G6ELBZQ4IV3BC7X67IKJKEZZHY/
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:39am
  - Surely Knott
    
    So she won’t take interviews from Hoskings. She won’t take call in questions from the public on newstalk zb. But we can tune into her instagram broadcasts for updates, or get clarifications from Gayford, or get positive government messages designed by ad agencies from the motorway signs. Accountability plus.
    
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    March 12, 2021 12:04pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Are you saying ‘she’ is using social media platforms to get the message out? I guess the NZ media has had a gutsful of covering her lies.
      Trump did this but he got banned for telling the truth
      
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      March 12, 2021 3:39pm
    - Mark
      
      I RECALL YOUR CLAY FOOTED CLOWN KEY BEING TOO WOOSY TO BE INTERVIWED BY KIM HILL.BIG BRAVE SOOK HE WAS.
      
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      March 12, 2021 3:48pm
      - Dougal10
        
        Angry much
        
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        March 12, 2021 6:28pm
      - Mark
        
        Dougal old fruit truth hurt much.Yeeees I thought so.However as we have noticed whenever the Gnats get caught with their stickies in the till ,crickets from their big brave warriors like Tones Stuart ,Shortarse ,Tauhei,Rich prick ,and all the other dribbling gooses.Er crikey they are beyond pathetic.
        
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        March 12, 2021 8:50pm
      - Mark
        
        Hello there you gutless guppies ,don’t down tick me rebut the arguments ,you just advertise by down ticks how week minded you are.Man up ya pussies or fuck off .
        
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        March 12, 2021 9:05pm
Kiwi_in_Paris

When countries suspend a “vaccine” for safety concerns you know you are being ruled by “dangerous conspiracy theorists”. I love the way they refer to death as a side-effect, I mean death is hardly as terrible or serious as Covid right?

https://www.rt.com/news/517808-denmark-minister-astrazeneca-covid19-vaccine/
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March 12, 2021 8:07am
- RoboRob
  
  The entire EU is attacking the Astra zenica vaccine. Hint, it’s nothing to do with the vaccine but everything to do with the country that developed it (UK). This is political point scoring after the EU forgot to order vaccines for themselves and are now being out classed by an ex member.
  
  How many AZ vaccines have been used vs how many ‘issues’?
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:05am
  - Kiwi_in_Paris
    
    Yeah, and not only that, the Brits are made of sterner stuff, just compare them always going over the wall compared to the Italians running away from battle to save their lives.
    
    No matter how many people drop dead from the experimental jab in the UK, Boris will keep pushing them to take it. Rule Britannia and all that, stiff upper lip chaps!
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:26am
  - Surely Knott
    
    The article says
    
    “Austrian authorities suspended the use of a batch of AstraZeneca Covid-19 jabs after a person was diagnosed with multiple thrombosis (formation of blood clots within blood vessels) and died 10 days after vaccination. ” Plus three other people with similar symptoms after vaccine.
    
    ** Isn’t the way the UK actually measures the covid deaths – is any death within 28 days of a positive covid test is a covid death. But a death 10 days after a vaccination has to be proven to be linked to the vaccination?
    
    The EMA said there is “no indication that vaccination has caused these conditions.”
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:26am
    - RoboRob
      
      The way the UK, US and NZ (and others) measure Covid deaths is stupid. It is designed to give lthe largest # of deaths possible. It is much more sensible to actually establish a link between something before reporting an association. This is the standard scientific way of doing things.
      
      Just becuase the politicians have used a poor system for covid doesn’t mean we need to apply it to everything.
      
      It is possible there is an issue with the AZ vaccine but automatically assuming it is bad becuase someone dies of something after taking it is the same poor science being used by politicians.
      
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      March 12, 2021 11:06am
      - Sacha
        
        And, I think that many people realise that, RoboRob, hence the reluctance of some people to be vaccinated unnecessarily. The research has not been done, nor can it be, for some years, until all the statistics are gathered and analysed.
        At present I think that these are valid reasons to query whether the vaccines are either necessary, or beneficial as a Public health measure.
        
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        March 12, 2021 12:29pm
I remember when

Prisoner advocate slams Australian minister for calling deportees trash.
Unfortunately many in New Zealand, including at least some in the NZ government, agree with him.
At least for the worst of them.
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March 12, 2021 8:07am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Chris Hipkins certainly put his Size 9 in his mouth yesterday, describing the deportees as “garbage”
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/03/chris-hipkins-quickly-backtracks-after-saying-australia-is-exporting-its-garbage-to-new-zealand.html
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:13am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Has Labour stopped believing in the inherent dignity of each human?
    
    Has Chris Hipkins forgotten the words of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?
    
    All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.
    
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    March 12, 2021 8:24am
    - KiwiSapper
      
      No argument with that. But, it is what they do after being born which can rightly strip that freedom, dignity and rights from them.
      It ain’t a unassailable lifetime allocation as if they abuse that freedom, dignity and rights, especially of others, then damn right, they loose theirs.
      
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      March 12, 2021 8:39am
  - Local Miller
    
    Sounds like he didn’t get the “be nice” memo.
    
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    March 12, 2021 8:34am
  - mikenmildagain
    
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    And he apologised for it, but you’d rather dump on him than Dutton, right?
    
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    March 12, 2021 8:41am
    - JibberJabber
      
      It’s never stopped you lot before.
      If it’s good for the Goose, then it’s good for the Gander, no?
      We’re all fully aware that you leftists and your hypocrisy can never be appeased.
      
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      March 12, 2021 9:27am
    - 3-coil
      
      You are the “apologist” Mikey – Hipkins didn’t apologise, he just said he might’ve chosen the wrong words.
      
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      March 12, 2021 9:30am
    - WaveyDavey
      
      And you’d rather dump on Dutton than your tribe, eh Mike?
      
      plus ça change
      
      personally I think they were both correct – Hipkins before the grovelling apology though
      
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      March 12, 2021 9:31am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      He didn’t apologise for it, and like many current Ministers, couldn’t even string a comprehensible sentence together.
      
      His exact words were “I don’t necessarily completely agree with that sentiment (in other, less weaselly words “I agree with that sentiment for the most part”) and I probably could have used a better frame of words“.
      
      Does he mean a better turn of phrase? That he could have framed his words better? That all the 501s were framed? Please explain, Minister.
      
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      March 12, 2021 9:51am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      Yes Mike we would.
      
      Hipkins is a key Minister in the Ardern Ministry who’s motto is: BE KIND
      
      And he is on the record as rubbishing people… Apology not withstanding, it doesnt remotely mesh with their declared ethos
      
      So yes having a chisel at Chippie is 100% appropriate and warranted… Your sniveling snark in his defense just reinforces that Labour are liars and hypocrits. You know all the things Ms Ardern said were unnecessary in politics
      
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      March 12, 2021 10:56am
    - Dougal10
      
      Dutton’s not pretending to be one of us.
      
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      March 12, 2021 11:15am
  - WaveyDavey
    
    TBF a stopped clock is right twice a day
    
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    March 12, 2021 8:46am
  - igm
    
    At least there is one in Labour who realises criminals are scum . . . we should be deporting criminals not born here, not throwing taxpayers’ money at them in luxurious prisons.
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:14am
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    The truth escapes a liars mouth once in a while.
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:47am
  - jonnycomelately
    
    Chris Hipkiss demonstrates how conceited this government has become. only a few weeks ago he claimed Pacific Islanders couldn’t afford to visit Queenstown!!
    
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    March 12, 2021 1:21pm
- kowtow
  
  I love how the hypocrites in our Media Pardy make such a big deal out of the Ugly Okkers for deporting crims , when we do exactly the same to Pacific Island nations , who arguably aren’t in such a good position to accomodate our “trash” that we send them .
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:19am
- Swifty
  
  I strongly urge people to see this piece on Dutton and then say he’s doing the wrong thing by Aussies and by Australia:
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoKX82kjpfs
  
  He’s doing what any decent responsible Minister would do.
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:28am
  - 3-coil
    
    Swifty: not only is Australian Minister Dutton doing the right thing, our NZ Coronavirus Minister (Chris Hipkins) agrees with him – saying that Australia is exporting its “garbage” to NZ.
    Edit: Although I heard an “Iwi in Oz” spokeslady on NatRadio this morning telling us that “Minister Hopkins (sic) didn’t mean what he said”!!
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:18am
  - rererangihirihiri
    
    [Deleted – save your over-the-top racist language for your Facebook fans. Not welcome here. Mod.]
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:40am
Tony Stuart

I posted the following on Twitter this morning, as a thread of three tweets:

Dear Aucklanders

You should be waking up this morning in Level 1, free to go about your business without restrictions. Instead, this callous government is keeping you on tenterhooks until 11.30 this morning, too late for many businesses to plan or have a normal day’s trading.

Cabinet made its decision yesterday, but instead of an immediate announcement, we’ve got the charade of a carefully orchestrated media conference this morning to announce what is obvious to everyone; a return to L1, as there have been no community cases for almost two weeks.

Is this the mandate you gave the government in October? To play political games with lives and businesses? It’s time to tell the Prime Minister to relax her vice-like grip on Auckland’s throat.

The timing of the announcement is less about the announcement itself, but all about Brand Ardern and Brand Labour. Unfortunately for the PM, this has probably been the worst week of her 3 1/2 year tenure, and the brand has been significantly tarnished.

Even people like Max Tweedie, event manager for Pride Auckland has been critical of the government, as he tweeted last night:

Wait what??? They’ve made the call but haven’t announced it?

There are so many arts events, Pride, AAF, that are waiting for this announcement. We need to know as soon as possible.

I’ve been a huge supporter of the Government’s response to COVID-19, but this makes no sense.

Certainty is invaluable to us in the arts and events at the moment, the Government should provide that as soon as they’ve made a decision.

I sent a tweet to Max noting that this was perhaps the only issue on which he and I might agree! When the PM is alienating people right across the political spectrum, trouble is brewing. The political management of the latest Covid cluster has been woeful, and the ineptitude of the government has been exposed.
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March 12, 2021 8:11am
- Tomtoddy
  
  We have a very upset daughter in the food business. She is hanging on through Covid by the skin of her teeth. She could have a big weekend but she needed to be in her kitchen at 5,00am this morning preparing. She could not afford the risk of spolied food.
  
  This arrogant media seeking PM is ruining lives so she can get a moment in the sun. Disguting.
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:17am
  - Paulus
    
    Did you and your daughter vote for her ?
    
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    March 12, 2021 8:25am
    - Tomtoddy
      
      No, neither. I voted Labour, once only in 1987 with a peg over my nose because I thought they may complete the reforms they were promising but a spineless PM of the day listened to the pillow talk and threw in the sponge.
      
      Our daughter is an ACT/Nat voter.
      
      By the way how many Labour/Green voters do you know who have the bottle to start their own business? Dont they get cushy jobs in universities, teaching, and working for the council?
      
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      March 12, 2021 9:11am
      - igm
        
        In the current line up the only Labour MP who has tried business is Parker . . . he went belly up in good trading conditions, totally demolishing his partner (business), then running off to Labour, where he even misled parliament, getting sent to thee back of the room by Clark.
        There is not one of them who could prepare a tax return, in fact, the PM does not know the difference between GST and FBT!
        
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        March 12, 2021 9:24am
      - Loddenthinks
        
        @igm: well she’s proven she has no idea what GDP means, so I’m picking most acronyms are beyond her, other than perhaps 2FC.
        
        Two fish and a scoop please Aunty Jack.
        
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        March 12, 2021 9:54am
      - Mark
        
        Nada .had the furniture making business for many years ,35 staff got an award fro Sir Les Mills for employing people with disabilities in large proportions.They were not all Gnational party supporters tho.One was ,he was the one we caught stealing .Typical .
        
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        March 12, 2021 9:00pm
- kowtow
  
  They voted for it , f#ck ’em. ( and all the rest)
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:20am
  - plc
    
    Exactly….can I suggest putting a teddy bear in the window
    
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    March 12, 2021 8:30am
- Brian McDonald
  
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  When you did your little tweet Tony were you up to date with all the latest Covid information? For example, the test results of the close contacts of the airline staff positive case? I’m sure you were, but just thought I’d ask.
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:29am
- Loddenthinks
  
  Yeah I don’t know if it’s been the very worst week Tony. I mean, she managed to spark a conversation about the Royal Wedding while visiting Hawkes Bay orchardists doing it tough due to her government’s ridiculous over-reaction and determination to control us all like so many lab rats.
  
  That proved to be yet another master distraction as all the fawning acolytes squealed with pleasure while hopping from foot to foot. Imagine it! The Royal Wedding! Here in the Hawke Bay!!!!
  
  The economic boost from the women’s mags alone is easily enough to offset the $100m Hawkes Bay (and NZ) will lose through leaving fruit to rot on the trees and the ground.
  
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  March 12, 2021 10:01am
- Bob
  
  ..”and the ineptitude of the government has been exposed.”
  Was it ever really hidden. Those of us with the ability to THINK and read between the lines recognised the ineptitude in Labour way back in the 1900’s
  
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  March 12, 2021 10:28am
Maggy Wassilieff

Look folks our PM is a busy lady…

she has to go on Tele to make a big announcement at 11:30 today.

Once upon a time Newsreaders made those big announcements on behalf of the PM ….but now we have a PM who can read out a prepared script all by herself.
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March 12, 2021 8:11am
- Frank the tank
  
  Cmon don’t be mean she probably has a couple of engagements at primary schools to make this morning as well
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:15am
  - Scooter
    
    Or busy giving Clarke an ear full after his tweet. Christ those 2 wouldn’t have a brain cell between them.
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:19pm
- oldgolfer
  
  Vainglorious, and that will – is – tripping her up.
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:15am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  In the crayon colour of her own choice! With bonus sparkles!
  
  Decision made by the ‘Kitchen Cabinet’? Kindy Cupboard more the like.
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:17am
- kowtow
  
  Anyone else notice the fist cab off the rank when she opens to the floor ……
  
  “Yes Jessica” , with a flick of the imperial hand .
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:22am
  - oldfella
    
    kowtow: ‘fist cab’? I thought that was a gay taxi? 😉
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:24am
  - JibberJabber
    
    It’s us getting the first “Fist” kt, if you know what I mean…
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:31am
    - kowtow
      
      Oops , I dropped an “r” there , better than dropping the soap ……..
      
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      March 12, 2021 11:57am
- KevO'Brien
  
  It takes a while in the mornings to get the deep fryer fat off her face.
  The French didn’t tolerate rulers like this.
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:40am
  - kowtow
    
    A majority approve .
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:14am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Only misguided Labour basement dwellers.
      
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      March 12, 2021 10:05am
    - Crisplion
      
      Dunno why you got a downtick for that kowtow. You merely stated a fact – an unpleasant fact to be sure, but one that needs to be taken seriously if we are to limit the damage being done by Ardern and her catastrophic cabinet of cretins.
      
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      March 12, 2021 10:45am
      - kowtow
        
        Funny innit , just stating the bleedin’ obvious.
        
        The other thing is the point I was trying to make is :K OB appears to imply , and not for the first time ,the answer is mob justice ala the garlic and onion eating Frogs but we ( happily) live in a democracy and as I’ve said so many times before the current majority are clearly in favour of surrendering their freedoms for perceived safety and are happy to keep the servile status quo.
        
        I didn’t vote for this bunch and frankly I’m aghast at what we’ve come to , but that’s democracy and one must abide with that , and not suggest that mobocracy is the answer.
        
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        March 12, 2021 11:54am
- nathie
  
  “now we have a PM who can read out a prepared script all by herself.”
  
  Crikey, we better hope the autocue doesn’t fail otherwise the PM might be left floundering, lost for words and unsure what to say!
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:44am
  - oldfella
    
    nathie: would be interesting to see Cindy ‘do a Biden.’
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:25am
- Flossie
  
  She’ll probably drop another hint or two about The Wedding and thus hope to deflect our attention from her government’s failings.
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:57am
- Martin Williams
  
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  She kept you alive, Maggy. You should be grateful.
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:16am
  - nathie
    
    Oh Martin – I bet ya if it were a National government in power, you would NOT be saying ‘be grateful”!
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:46am
  - BeaB
    
    What rubbish! If we hadn’t been scared stiff of dropping dead or causing our loved ones to drop dead, we wouldn’t have taken any notice of her, however much she pleaded with us.
    We kept ourselves alive by staying home.
    She was the public mouthpiece but did no more or less than any PM would have – except for turning the health announcements into party political broadcasts.
    I stopped watching them very early on and was no less well informed than the tragics who were glued to their TVs every day.
    
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    March 12, 2021 10:26am
  - Crisplion
    
    For your sake Martin, I really hope this is an instance of Poe’s law.
    
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    March 12, 2021 10:52am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    You forgot the sarc tag……or did you believe the ‘80,000 dead’ line?
    Have you looked into that at all?
    Otago Covid research group had 14k dead, but at 98% probability it would not happen.
    You need to understand models.
    We we never going to be 36x time worse than Milan.
    The media chose an outlying scenario outcome from the less reliable modelling to choose from, and scared the shit out of a lot of people.
    …So did you forget the Sarc tag?
    Or are you a dumbass?
    
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    March 12, 2021 12:01pm
  - Swifty
    
    Risible.
    
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    March 12, 2021 12:24pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    She failed to act quickly enough and 22 old folks died.
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_Zealand#New_cases_and_fatalities
    
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    March 12, 2021 2:32pm
    - Fuzzysnuggleduck
      
      Very close to how many died from the swine flu in 2009.
      Did we even notice that one?
      
      No, because it was even less death than the average flu season.
      
      That is not to say that potentially more couldn’t have died from Covid-19. It could have been worse.
      Alternatively, less may have died, if we really went hard and early, and it hadn’t gotten into a particular Christchurch dementia ward.
      
      Only thing we know, is that the Centre for Research Excellence and media footage overseas ICU wards in NY and Milan scared the bejesus out of people. Including me, albeit for a rather short time compared to some who still clutch their teddy bears.
      
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      March 12, 2021 3:47pm
      - Tall Man
        
        I thought the number was 35.
        
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        March 12, 2021 7:48pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  When are we going to see the PM on the huge electronic billboards around town? She could fill in drive time too.
  
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  March 12, 2021 12:30pm
  - igm
    
    She already uses our taxes to buy favourable msm, so your idea is quite credible.
    
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    March 12, 2021 2:02pm
    - Mark
      
      Did not the Gnational party ,forgo 34 million in debt to Steven Joyces old radio business .Yes yes I do recall,any of you right wing retards want to refute this fact.Don’ tdown tick it just reinforces how pathetic you are .Ignore the habits of a life time stand up argue your corner .Or most likely not.
      
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      March 12, 2021 9:18pm
Frank the tank

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/03/prisoner-advocate-slams-aust-mp-peter-dutton-for-calling-kind-caring-501-deportees-trash.html

Maybe DPF can do some research into some of these kind, caring deportees.

I had to laugh last night when an “advocate” on HDPA said this trash needed free gym memberships in order to integrate into NZ society – what so they are fit when they re-join the gang?
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March 12, 2021 8:12am
- Clyde
  
  Agree. Would be really good to have a deep analysis of these 501 deportees. I can only assume that most of them are East Polynesians by the news coverage. But is that true? I heard one apologist on Moaning Report saying that a young person had been deported for stealing a six pack. I’d like to know if this was true or whether other convictions were brushed aside.
  
  But frankly, if I was an Ozzie, I wouldn’t have too many problems in having a Government Minister using his powers to get rid of “trash”. Why would you want to keep them when they cause so much trouble?
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:37am
  - Don Beckett
    
    The obvious answer is to deport Tarrant – but they won’t have the nuts to do so.
    
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    March 12, 2021 10:50am
    - Frank the tank
      
      No they would rather have it cost millions of dollars a to house the cretin. A proactive government would have made an agreement with Turkey et al and deport the POS to a Muslim country.
      
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      March 12, 2021 11:13am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      We don’t deport criminals until they have completed their sentences. In his case, that will be a very long time.
      
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      March 12, 2021 11:22am
  - Paulus
    
    These so called trash all have numerus serious convictions and are not kicked out for minor transgressions.
    They each have many jail convictions.
    
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    March 12, 2021 12:55pm
Swifty

Another apparent unnecessary death from neglect in Kelvin’s prisons:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/124513956/auckland-woman-dies-of-lung-cancer-in-prison-after-being-undiagnosed-for-months

Where’s the outrage from the left?
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March 12, 2021 8:12am
- plc
  
  You’re so 2017….move on.
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:31am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Nothing new. Not being neglected is a privilege in prison.
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:42am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It is shocking to see that prisoners cannot access medical or nursing help in a prompt manner.
  Why does have a prisoner have to wait weeks to see a nurse?
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:43am
  - plc
    
    Because of “Nine Years of Neglect” and or “Serco”
    
    Get with the programme!!
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:00am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Because a guard may be offended or their behaviour doesn’t merit privileges.
    These are places of forcible control.
    
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    March 12, 2021 10:08am
    - igm
      
      Sounds like the Ardern narrative!
      
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      March 12, 2021 10:48am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        No it’s a bully’s world.
        
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        March 12, 2021 12:33pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Non prisoners are facing exactly the same problem. Do you think prisoners should be further up the queue Maggy?
    
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    March 12, 2021 10:41am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Yes, I do.
      
      We at least have access to pharmacists and perhaps neighbours/friends who can offer some assistance if we can’t get a timely medical appointment.
      
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      March 12, 2021 12:01pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Happy to accept that you and Swifty have higher comprehension skills than I, reading between the lines, but I read pain in September, numerous doctor and nurse appointments, specialist in January and diagnosis in February.
        
        Many in the community are waiting 6 months or more for the specialist appointment and even longer for surgical treatment.
        
        A more churlish answer would have been “don’t like the medical treatment standards in prison, don’t import drugs that may kill many young Kiwis who are stupid enopugh to take them”.
        
        But I’m not churlish ….
        
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        March 12, 2021 3:17pm
      - Swifty
        
        Yep, fair points TM.
        
        Except the churlish one that you didn’t make… 🙂
        
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        March 12, 2021 4:34pm
    - Swifty
      
      Come on TM – people waiting months just to get to see a GP?
      
      Nope, don’t buy it.
      
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      March 12, 2021 12:03pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Not what I read and yes, months for a referral and often wrong diagnosis in the interim.
        
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        March 12, 2021 3:18pm
  - Sacha
    
    Probably because there aren’t enough nurses 🙂 Prisons, by definition, are not the most attractive workplaces.
    
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    March 12, 2021 12:38pm
- oldfella
  
  Swifty, the unfortunate woman was Asian, and even our PM sees them as fair game at the moment – especially if they’re young and work at KFC.
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:27am
  - igm
    
    Bet if she were a follower of Islam she would have been left alone by Ardern and media.
    
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    March 12, 2021 10:49am
- SGA
  
  I knew someone, not in prison, who had a similar experience – treated for allergies and asthma rather than checked for lung cancer. Finally insisted on a chest x-ray which revealed a large tumour. Age, gender, and smoking history meant the likelihood of lung cancer was on the low side, so the GP never went looking for it. Under treatment, they ran into at least one other with a similar story (undiagnosed for considerably longer, in fact).
  Not excusing the prison system, just saying such stories aren’t limited to prison.
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:28am
Happychappy

Nationals blame game and disfunction is the man that’s writes the fluff articles for Jacinda Ardern to the overseas media, they are already leaking the information out of the secret enquiry is another of his bullshit quotes.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/political-roundup-nationals-blame-game-secrecy-and-dysfunction/WKA2R2YSYYLZ3DJGUQGZDBPIZE/
It’s taken three or four months to see anything written by Bryce Edward’s and New Zealand has not had to read his opinionated and bias crap supporting Labour and the Green party so crawl back into the hole you crawled out of until you can release facts and proof of what you have written.
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March 12, 2021 8:13am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Churnalists repeating churnalists con variazioni. Each repetition is further embroidered so while there are no facts only hints of speculative implications the whole presents as serious allegations of truth.
  
  Good reason why I don’t read Stuff or the Herald.
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:49am
mikenmildagain

Happy World Day Against Cyber Censorship!
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March 12, 2021 8:13am
- RoboRob
  
  Considering your political views, wouldn’t you be all for censortship and government control?
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:07am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Um, no.
    
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    March 12, 2021 11:23am
    - RoboRob
      
      You know that this is essentially Labour / Green policy right?
      
      The anti bullying bill (as a single example of many similar policies) is all about governments monitoring what people say on line and forcing it to be blocked where the government feels it is bad.
      
      Tha same applies for the LBTQI geneder stuff. Left wing governments all around the world a putting in place policies where posting is blocked or removed where, for example, incorrect pronouns are used.
      
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      March 12, 2021 11:38am
      - Mike
        
        Even if Labour and the Greens were all in for ‘government censorship and control’, what would that have to do with MY political views?
        
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        March 12, 2021 1:00pm
      - RoboRob
        
        @Mike
        I wasn’t talking to you I was commenting to mikenmildagain, who is generally pro Labour / left with their posts.
        
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        March 12, 2021 3:17pm
      - Sponge
        
        Why is mikenmildagain allowed to post as Mike as well?
        
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        March 12, 2021 3:32pm
Maggie Pie

AOTEAROA – the new ‘Commonwealth Penal Colony’

Peter Dutton putting out the trash (video)

https://twitter.com/franks_chung/status/1369870344685678593
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March 12, 2021 8:14am
- Ruahine
  
  Certainly one of us.
  
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  March 12, 2021 12:08pm
pdm

Should there be a sweep on how long she spouts on about her own special interests before she gets to the nitty gritty of the announcement.

I have heard 7 minutes and 8 minutes so far.
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March 12, 2021 8:16am
Swifty

Space Marines!

Quire remarkable stuff from an Aucklander, Syama Pedersen, and solo apparently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7hgjuFfn3A

Looks pretty good to me.
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March 12, 2021 8:18am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Poor Harry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJsLS_Onnvk
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March 12, 2021 8:24am
- lifesgood
  
  He’s an idiot.
  
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  March 12, 2021 12:02pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    United Spot is satire
    
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    March 12, 2021 1:05pm
I remember when

RNZ: 22/04/20.
‘Coronavirus Scientists want a Kiwi-made vaccine.
Some of the country’s top scientists say New Zealand cannot afford to wait on other countries to develop a covid-19 vaccine.’
All those in favour of buy ‘Kiwi-made’ line up behind me.
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March 12, 2021 8:24am
- cmm
  
  Let me run translate that for you:
  
  “Troughing scientists can see their trough being depleted….”
  
  Making a vaccine when they are available on the market is ridiculous.
  
  We don’t make our own cellphones from scratch in NZ because they’d cost $50,000 each to amortise the cost of all the equipment. Same basic deal with vaccines.
  
  We don’t need Kiwivax any more than we need Kiwiphone.
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:48am
- RoboRob
  
  Considering farmac cand even verify vaccines in a timely mannor, the Pfizer one is the only vaccine they have verified and it took them 3-10x longer than any other first world country, if we wait for Kiwi vaccine we might be in lockdown for 100yrs!
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:09am
Maggie Pie

While refusing to go into detail, people with knowledge of the topic, have confirmed that the ‘Morrinsville RSA’ has been booked for what they will only describe as “…an upcoming major event”

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1369888659500072960
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March 12, 2021 8:27am
Flossie

Why did the government not announce their decision last night?
People, sports, businesses, entertainment all have lives to organise and common decency would indicate let them know the situation as soon as possible.
It’s all about pontificating. Are we supposed to be grateful to this arrogant woman and her government?
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March 12, 2021 8:29am
- Inandout
  
  Flossie, why are Aucklanders so obliging and weak?
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:47am
  - kowtow
    
    The majority have a hand out .
    
    The business / productive class is a very small minority and despite the fact they drive the wealth of the nation , in a ‘social” democracy they can very easily be ignored.
    
    Also now with ‘credit’ so cheap gubmints believe they can print and spend their way out of any crisis …….. so aren’t answerable to any but themselves , as long as they spend enough on their voter base.
    
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    March 12, 2021 9:18am
- nathie
  
  Looks like Ardern and Labour are totally tone death and out of step with real world people’s thoughts, oh and add totally ignorant of how businesses work (eg cafes need to prepare food hours beforehand and/or order it the day before etc).
  
  How can Ardern and Labour be so out of step with reality? Especially when people/businesses are telling not only Ardern this, but also her MP’s?
  
  Are the MP’s simply compliant sheep, not wanting to tell their ‘dear leader’ what the ‘plebs’ are saying?
  
  Life on Planet Labour is like a magazine shoot – all pretend, lots of self-importance and ego stroking, and no sign of any ‘plebs’ to ruin the fairytale (plebs are kept well away)!
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:54am
Maggy Wassilieff

Looks like Climate Change isn’t a pressing worry for most NZers

Short-term worries displace climate change concern, survey shows
https://www.nbr.co.nz/node/229322
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March 12, 2021 8:29am
- SB2
  
  MW, obviously the covid pandemic is for the time being our chief concerns.
  
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  March 12, 2021 10:47am
  - Ruahine
    
    Yes. 200 rapes are reported monthly in New Zealand. However Covid is far more important. Unless perhaps you are one of those getting raped.
    200 rapes is just absolutely appalling and that will only be those that are reported.
    
    https://nopunchespulled.com/2021/03/12/lock-em-up/#more-2366
    
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    March 12, 2021 11:37am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    If you read the article, you would see that #1 concern is: Cost of living,
    as well as:
    Child safety, House prices, Violence, access to Health care
    
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    March 12, 2021 12:08pm
    - SB2
      
      MW , right those issues are important that wont go awayv magically away even under Judith’s tenure.
      
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      March 12, 2021 1:35pm
      - cmm
        
        But Cindy said she’d fix it all…
        
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        March 12, 2021 2:12pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Yeah…you lefties could never walk and crew gum at the same time.
    
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    March 12, 2021 12:58pm
- Master Mariner
  
  “Take away the common enemy all you get is Chaos”
  
  The new common enemy ( Covid ) has put the old one back on the shelf ( Climate Change) To be repackaged and ready to be brought out when required.
  
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  March 12, 2021 2:43pm
WaveyDavey

Two-tier justice system anyone?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300249641/south-auckland-police-frustrated-at-new-requirement-to-get-approval-for-arrests
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March 12, 2021 8:38am
- cmm
  
  Geez, none of that looks good.
  
  This is all just pathetic stuff to try massage the numbers.
  
  “Having a senior sergeant there increases decision-making capability and enables greater focus on the day-to-day running of the unit.”
  
  Reading between the lines…. the management think constables are too poorly trained to arrest anyone.
  
  “It can be frustrating when you’re the officer on the street having to deal with the offenders.”
  
  No shit. When someone is in West Auckland you can arrest them, if they cross the demarcation line into South Auckland turf they’re now “safe”. What is this? Some big game of tag?
  
  Criminals have a negative impact on the whole of NZ and it is worse for the most vulnerable members of society (of whom there are many in South Auckland). Going soft on crime in South Auckland is going to make life far worse for the people living there (except of course the crims who will thrive there).
  
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  March 12, 2021 10:29am
  - WaveyDavey
    
    Quotas…
    
    “Bro we’ve banged up too many brown fellas this week, only nick whiteys for a bit”
    
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    March 12, 2021 11:11am
  - Nickc2
    
    IMO, the Maori Caucus are running the show. When they say jump, Cindy and the woke Commissioner jump in unison until they are told they may come down.
    Didn’t we have major disruptions in NZ when South Africa was doing similar things only in reverse?
    This lunacy has to stop!
    
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    March 12, 2021 2:32pm
- kowtow
  
  Another nail in the policing by consent myth.
  
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  March 12, 2021 11:32am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Must be close to being illegal as it does not impliedly give equal rights to all citizens.
  
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  March 12, 2021 12:41pm
I remember when

Botswana tried something daring when children were learning via mobile phone.
They grouped students by reading and maths mastery, rather than age or grade.
The result was a 31% improvement in basic maths skills after 4 weeks.
Botswana’s schools have reopened, but they,ve kept this approach in place.
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March 12, 2021 8:43am
- cmm
  
  Streaming kids 101.
  
  Of course learning is more efficient when people are grouped according to ability.
  
  When bright, and sub-bright, kids are mixed some very negative things happen:
  1) The brighter kids get bored and their time is wasted. A 45 minute maths class becomes a 5 minute class because all the time is wasted trying to get Thick Johnnie to understand. The bright kids disengage.
  2) Thick Johnnie always feels stupid compared to the other kids and gives up. The less bright kids disengage too.
  
  So the activists do achieve their goal of equitable outcome – unfortunately at the expense everyone performing lower than they should.
  
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  March 12, 2021 1:14pm
Maggy Wassilieff

The demise of wood-processing in NZ

https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the-detail/story/2018786934/new-zealand-s-mills-are-in-trouble
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March 12, 2021 8:48am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Look what exporting jobs did to US cities.
  How can we plan housing here in mass if we don’t have control of the industrial base? Do we wan’t to import houses from China?
  Can we have a govt that can actually think and do?
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:09am
- Ruahine
  
  Not to mention the one billion trees that Shane Jones said would be planted. No pun intended.
  
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  March 12, 2021 12:15pm
Local Miller

Is it just my imagination, or has DPF taken on board the idea of “white listing” those of us who’ve not got a history of being moderated? I’ve posted two comments today and neither of them went to moderation.
Much appreciated if this is correct 🙂
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March 12, 2021 8:52am
Maggy Wassilieff

Why won’t our PM handle tough questions?

Many commentators are saying this government doesn’t look like it can stand up to tough questions.

“When you have been the government that promised to be the most transparent government. They were supposed to break this slide, this slide since the 80s of less and less accountability and the politicians having more and more power over the media, and the reluctance from the politicians to debate and engage and face tough questioning. She had promised to change that,” says Watkin.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/03/the-detail-media-expert-on-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-pulling-out-of-mike-hosking-interview-slot.html
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March 12, 2021 8:53am
Maggie Pie

TRENDING….

My partner reckons it will be interesting to see who the ‘high profile sportsman’ is, once name suppression is finally lifted later day.
Particularly as the Judge has suggested the Police may have not done a full investigation into the scope of his involvement with an international drugs ring, from the outset. Very odd.

https://twitter.com/NZStuff/status/1369865048852631555
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March 12, 2021 8:54am
- cmm
  
  As the Big Cop told us, we now have policing by consent.
  
  Perhaps the “high profile sportsman” did not consent to being investigated?
  
  Having mates in the right places will sort out a lot of problems.
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:03am
  - JibberJabber
    
    I thought I’d heard it’s a Boxer…
    
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    March 12, 2021 1:20pm
- cmm
  
  Hey Maggie. What sort of sport does your partner think this guy plays?
  
  I’m picking it’s going to be something like kick boxing. That bet has had good returns in the past.
  
  But then cricketers have been delivering well over the last few years too…
  
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  March 12, 2021 10:14am
  - Swifty
    
    League?
    
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    March 12, 2021 12:30pm
  - cmm
    
    Woop! That bet pays again.
    
    There’s just something about those boxing/kick-boxing/whatever gyms that pulls in the toe rags and drug dealers.
    
    They start by dealing in steroids etc, then find the same avenues give them access to expand their enterprises. Add to that the beefed up layabouts that frequent these places are up for some enforcement.
    
    Before you know it that trading a few bits of steroids turns into a major drug operation.
    
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    March 12, 2021 2:20pm
- skyblue
  
  A high profile ex rugby league player.
  
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  March 12, 2021 10:14am
  - WaveyDavey
    
    What a Beastly thing to say.
    
    Mind you, you could be Boxing clever there.
    
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    March 12, 2021 12:42pm
I remember when

There is/was no reason why the signaling of the changing of Alert Levels could not have been made last week, with the proviso that it was dependent on lack of community cases.
However, while people are concentrating on Alert Levels other problems are muted.
Will the cricketers get covid vaccines.
Will we win the Americas Cup race.
What $100 billion.
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March 12, 2021 8:58am
- ldypen
  
  Will the Wiggles pay their MIQ bill?
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:55am
  - sooty
    
    No cindy has done a trade, a private show for the cost of isolation!
    
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    March 12, 2021 1:11pm
cmm

There has been a lot of recent news about changes in the earth’s magnetic field – both its attitude (direction it is pointing) and its strength.

In the last 170 or so years the earth’s magnetic field has decreased by 10%.

This is a HUGE deal.

The earth’s magnetic field has a huge impact on the atmospheric chemistry. This has way more impact than a trace amount of CO2.

https://www.livescience.com/magnetic-flip-42000-years-ago.html
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March 12, 2021 9:00am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  All I know is that the Aurora is going crazy in Alaska and I can’t go and see it. Been twice and missed out
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:18am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Probably say the same for Falklands . Be good Auroras there too.
    Really need a good solar flare to set it off.
    
    Incidently lived in Anchorage and worked in Dutch Harbour .
    
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    March 12, 2021 2:58pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Love Anchorage, have friends there
      
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      March 12, 2021 3:41pm
      - Master Mariner
        
        Chilcoot Charlies still running?
        
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        March 12, 2021 4:37pm
- rockape
  
  I wouldn’t want to be living within a hundred miles of a fault line when that happens. Pity I live in Nelson!
  
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  March 12, 2021 10:25am
- Master Mariner
  
  If any thing that has direct consequences to climate, Its this.
  
  Again everyone looking the wrong way.
  
  I’ve mentioned this before previously.
  
  Theres a good American site that has all details about how much its weakened over the years. Quite incrediable.
  One site also mentioned that “some how” 2 Magnetic cores have split into 2 and hence the poles moving.
  
  Its also a well known fact and has a name that poles reverse every 27k years or so.
  
  I find this fascinating.
  
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  March 12, 2021 2:55pm
Yvette

Māori must decide for themselves whether they’ll get Covid-19 vaccine – Waititi

Some view the Treaty of Waitangi as a historic real estate agreement which is a little problematic through being recorded in two languages that in some terms did not agree. It also offered “British subject” protection to Maori.

Others view “principles of the Treaty” to hold implications for matters such as allocation of air-waves – television and phone mediums, unknown at the time of Treaty signing – and so regard the Treaty as a “living document” foundation of New Zealand’s society.

What then is the position of the Treaty in relation to the covid pandemic?
The Crown protection (Waitangi principle) offered in this issue is a vaccination.
So does accepting that protection amount to an aspect of “partnership” – and unless there is participation there is no protection?

So, does the Treaty, which has implications for television airwave allocation, mean anything in the context of covid, or is it still just a poorly written 1840 real estate agreement?
Is the Treaty important only in selected instances?
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March 12, 2021 9:00am
Maggie's partner

My partner was fascinated to see that the PM’s boyfriend is now an official outlet for state secrets!
She wonders if Clarke will be fronting the 1pm media shows from now on?
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March 12, 2021 9:02am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Jaspinda seems to be avoiding all media. The heat is on
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:21am
cmm

Is Clarke Gayford the new Jill Biden?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-clarke-gayford-says-final-test-results-today-to-determine-aucklands-alert-level-move/G6ELBZQ4IV3BC7X67IKJKEZZHY/
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March 12, 2021 9:07am
- RoboRob
  
  He might know more about medical matters than ‘Dr’ Jil 🙂
  
  I get all my trusted information from comedians, aren’t they the best news source? They are replacing news shows with comedians so it must be true:)
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:16am
  - Flossie
    
    Jill Biden has never claimed to be a medical doctor.
    
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    March 12, 2021 12:24pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Never claimed not to be either. Just like David Clark and Megan Woods – not medical but they don’t bother to tell you that
      
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      March 12, 2021 1:08pm
      - SB2
        
        Steve Otto(North Shore ,)you again excel yourself utter rubbish!
        
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        March 12, 2021 1:37pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Stupid boy, stop trolling. Both of those lying bastards are Doctors, but not ‘medical’ Doctors.
        Fuck off with your rubbish.
        Why did I even reply to this arsehole?
        
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        March 12, 2021 3:45pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        It is a mistake commonly made, by morons, to believe that only medical doctors are ‘real’ doctors. Most medicos only have that as a courtesy title, usually having a bachelors degree and never having done any serious academic research.
        
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        March 12, 2021 4:48pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Look here folks..
Clarke says an in principle decision has been made….blah, blah, blah….

so there!!!!!
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-clarke-gayford-says-final-test-results-today-to-determine-aucklands-alert-level-move/G6ELBZQ4IV3BC7X67IKJKEZZHY/
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March 12, 2021 9:08am
- kevn
  
  @Maggy… Must high grade ‘pillow talk’.
  So, we get the news of sorts, from a random unelected porch inhabitant.
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:42am
- Flossie
  
  And they take National to task over “leaks”!
  
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  March 12, 2021 10:19am
Greg Ettridge

“Spent today in the Hawkes Bay with our food and fibre sector leaders discussing everything from sustainability and climate change through to COVID and workforce issues.”
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMRjTckAfhY/
Have a look at the three photos, photo two, three out of the four men in photo looking like they have just been served up a dead rat.
Her minders are clueless, they think if they photograph her smiling, this portrays the full message, photo number 2 tells you the whole deal looks like we are all being feed a dead rat.
Sheep must all need a seeing eye dog.
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March 12, 2021 9:11am
- Don Beckett
  
  Photo 3 looks like a caricature of Rowan Atkinson.
  
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  March 12, 2021 11:16am
- lifesgood
  
  Oh boy, do they look miserable or what?
  
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  March 12, 2021 11:53am
Maggie Pie

Top Auckland Business Leader says…

“Jacinda is just taking the piss”
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March 12, 2021 9:12am
Martin Williams

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
How long do people give Peter Goodfellow?

The National party caucus and board are now officially at war. More blood to be spilled.
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March 12, 2021 9:20am
- kevn
  
  @marty… ask c.gayford, he seems to have the goss on everything. Spills the beans at every opportunity.
  Class act.
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:44am
- JibberJabber
  
  In the Dictionary…
  
  Fail Troll..Martin Williams
  
  You need to get outta bed earlier, Marty
  
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  March 12, 2021 9:51am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Wait till you see what happens to Ardern and her crew of no-hopers over the months to come. She now seems to have need of her fisherman to talk for her on pre-Cabinet matters.
  
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  March 12, 2021 10:11am
- peterwn
  
  So some Stuff hack who is too chicken to put his or her name to editorials thinks he or she knows better what the National Party should do. There are 50 million or so reasons why there is an incentive for Stuff to try and trash National but sing the praises of Jacinda.
  A bit of reality here – it is the Party members (and nearly anyone can join for $5 per year) has the say who is on the Board and the Board elects the President. So Peter Goodfellow is there as long as the Board has confidence in him. It is also the party members who enable National MP’s to be in Parliament, hence if there is any feud between Caucus and the Board, Caucus will come off second best. Party members can be excused for being upset at events in the lead-up to the last election, Most of the issues involved MP’s/ candidates and one issue involved the Board. Whoever has the gold makes the rules and it is the members who have the gold.
  So there is a process underway to get the whole show back on the rails. It may well be that the membership allows the Board to exert more control over candidate and leadership selection than it has in the past.
  A strength and weakness in the Party is it is the party members in each electorate who have the predominant say in choosing the electorate candidates. People are members partly because they are involved in candidate selection, which is a strength. However they can make sub-optimal or dud choices which is a weakness. The Party organisation structure and rules need to achieve a balance between having a successful party versus a party where rank and file membership has so little influence that people will not bother joining.
  
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  March 12, 2021 11:03am
  - Bob
    
    Perhaps the Labour policy of having the Unions chose the candidates is better ????????
    
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    March 12, 2021 11:49am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    I see little weakness in the National party but a lot of dirt being fabricated by hidden PR teams and a paid media. Any hint or possible hint has been overblown into a story and used to damage whoever they can. Truth is irrelevant in war; lies that damage or the facade of truth is what counts in the unseen hits.
    The media need accountability too. Their task is not to elect a PM or deselect an Opposition. Having gone broke they have lost their integrity.
    
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    March 12, 2021 12:52pm
    - Martin Williams
      
      I see little weakness in the National party
      
      And in other news from Mars…
      
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      March 12, 2021 1:10pm
    - peterwn
      
      And in particular there seems to be fabricated stuff designed to look as if has come from some mythical member of Caucus who is leaking. The objectives being to sow distrust in Caucus and induce Judith to embark on damaging witch-hunts.
      
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      March 12, 2021 3:26pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Because damaging leaks about political parties never turn out to be true, right?
        
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        March 12, 2021 4:46pm
      - KevO'Brien
        
        That’s been going on for a long time. I believe that was used against Simon Bridges. Politics is tough and the least little stress can be slanted, blown up and attributed to some notional member, implying lack of loyalty.
        You get a lot of dirt for $105M.
        
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        March 12, 2021 6:46pm
    - MCos
      
      “I see little weakness in the National party”
      
      You should go to Spec Savers
      
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      March 12, 2021 3:33pm
      - KevO'Brien
        
        Watch Ardern R. carefully she’s now visibly failing and The Herald are commenting on that too.
        
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        March 12, 2021 6:47pm
Nickc2

CHINA SABER RATTLING

Has NZ been invited to attend a Quad Summit to discuss matters pertaining to China’s aims and influence in our areas of interest? Quad partners so far are: India, Japan, the USA and Australia. If not, why not?
Is it because we are too closely tied to China or is it because it’s beyond the comprehension of our Foreign Minister, or other?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/10/biden-to-meet-with-australia-india-japan-in-message-to-china
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/Indo-Pacific/Quad-tightens-rare-earth-cooperation-to-counter-China
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March 12, 2021 9:32am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Well, why haven’t Canada, South Korea or Indonesia been invited either?
  
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  March 12, 2021 11:29am
  - MCos
    
    Or Taiwan.
    
    If NZ & Taiwan were involved it would be Sex partners.
    Morrison, Biden, Modi & Yoshihide Suga sound like more than a match for Xi Jinping. Wouldn’t want two girls messing it up.
    
    “Quad partners so far” doesn’t make sense, btw.
    
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    March 12, 2021 1:04pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Perhaps they have or they are being represented by another nation. The only nation that could possibly represent us is Australia and given the amount of bad-mouthing of them by our present Govt, we were probably not considered worth an invite or representing.
    
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    March 12, 2021 1:27pm
Nickc2

As an add-on to the above post, maybe the invite was mailed to New Zealand and when the mail was sorted in Aotearoa, it was returned to sender marked ‘Address Unknown’.
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March 12, 2021 9:39am
JibberJabber

So, slowly the truth is leaking out…
https://twitter.com/Sukiweeks/status/1369974005508243459/photo/1

There is a racist in the Royal family… she married him.
#paki
#ragheads
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March 12, 2021 9:43am
- kowtow
  
  Not to mention his penchant for natty Hugo Boss uniforms…….
  
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  March 12, 2021 11:23am
Swifty

Dr Uri Hakyakokof goes too far this time:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/124512004/christchurch-urologists-offensive-presentation-triggers-resignation-of-society-president-
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March 12, 2021 9:54am
Maggie Pie

BREAKING

WOW!! This is yuge.

Raises the whole question of ‘surrogacy’. Then… and now.

https://twitter.com/LilytheP1nk/status/1369971907978665988
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March 12, 2021 10:11am
Maggie Pie

My partner just txt …..’word at the viaduct is for midnite sunday’.
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March 12, 2021 10:25am
- MCos
  
  Didn’t the PM say that a week ago?
  
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  March 12, 2021 11:01am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Should be from midday today (Friday)!!!!!
  
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  March 12, 2021 11:27am
  - MCos
    
    And so it was.
    
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    March 12, 2021 12:28pm
Observer of Life

Sorry, I haven’t had time to read through GD posts yet, but heard the PM’s ‘fiancé’ has waded in to the discussion on ‘why no announcement when the govt made a decision yesterday’ … so my question is
Doesn’t the #metoo movement call what he has done “ManSplaining”. Isn’t that an insult to Ardern (and women in general)? Just a thought …
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March 12, 2021 10:44am
- david
  
  I’m waiting eagerly and with bated breath for his comments on the housing crisis, child poverty, the trans-Tasman bubble, medevac flights for Niue Islanders who can’t get MIQ slots, Corruption in the Local Authority space, reformation of the Gasfitters and Drainlayers Registration Board and the Quota Management System in the Hauraki Gulf.
  Why stop now?
  
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  March 12, 2021 11:42am
  - Nickc2
    
    …….and don’t forget the fisherman (a la Ardern) phoning a mate(s) last night telling what alert level Auckland was going to and when. This was reported by Barry Soper this morning after Cindy’s podium fronting.
    
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    March 12, 2021 1:36pm
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Actually, he was replying to a tweet from restauranteur Martin Bosley, bemoaning how little notice hospo businesses would have to get staff rostered on and to get stock in if they went to Level 1 in a hurry. And if 25 minutes notice isn’t “a hurry”, I don’t know what is.
      
      Another restaurant and bar owner rang Kerre McIvor just after the decision was announced, to apologise in advance for the poor service customers would receive if they descended on his businesses in large numbers today. He also said that MP’s should stay away, as they would be refused service; he wasn’t a happy chappie!
      
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      March 12, 2021 1:51pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Are you ready? The show is about to begin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8cRvQBl5yE
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March 12, 2021 11:06am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Um, this is about Trump – as if you did not know
  
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  March 12, 2021 11:10am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    Is that a parody video? (serious question).
    Using an 80’s tune, and shoe horning in gun-toting citizenry and evil deep state and church.
    The veneration of the president, and the holy mission.
    The tune and imagery feels like something you would see in an episode of American Dad, when Stan Smith has a wet dream.
    
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    March 12, 2021 2:06pm
    - Fuzzysnuggleduck
      
      And check out the comments.
      LOLZ…really seems like a parody account, but I fear not.
      Like the nuttiness of social justice nutcases, you can’t tell parody from the genuine fanaticism these days.
      
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      March 12, 2021 2:08pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Ask an American Patriot, then you may possibly start to understand.
      Here is an example – left or right does not fucking matter.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1fihSpdEx8
      
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      March 12, 2021 3:50pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  That video is terrific. What did you like most: the lion, the dancing girls, the sinister Pope, or the space aliens?
  
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  March 12, 2021 11:34am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The response from trolls
    
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    March 12, 2021 1:09pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Glad you like Trump so much Mike – but you will never admit to that lest your Mum give you the jandal
    
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    March 12, 2021 1:30pm
    - Batman
      
      Steve this is not-very-subtle QAnon promotion.
      
      The captured children, military storming buildings, talk of human trafficking, deep state and satanist cabal of the deep state including the pope etc.
      
      There are two options here:
      
      A) you are a low key Q follower but don’t say it out loud.
      B) you are getting Q-pilled and don’t realise it.
      
      Props to ‘truthseekerz’ for the Top Gun style music though, it literally made me chuckle over my lunch!
      
      Oh how easy it is for some to fall down the recommendation rabbit hole and end up watching the US domestic terrorist version of ISIS propaganda videos.
      
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      March 12, 2021 2:26pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Batman/moderator. Can I not troll a known troll like Mike?
        Your answer will be interesting, I don’t know how Mike gets away with so much shit trolling ….
        
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        March 12, 2021 3:56pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        “The captured children, military storming buildings, talk of human trafficking, deep state and satanist cabal of the deep state including the pope etc.”
        Wow, that is mixed up, so I can’t answer without conflicting”
        Nice try Batman. Try 5 different questions please
        
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        March 12, 2021 4:09pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Probably the lion. So majestic.
    
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    March 12, 2021 2:01pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Things are happening.
https://uniteamericafirst.com/5-people-charged-with-voter-fraud-in-illinois-das-office/?
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March 12, 2021 11:13am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Are you in with the crowd that believes the ‘real’ inauguration will now happen on 20 March?
  
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  March 12, 2021 11:36am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    The US may go quiet for a while but the truth is bubbling away. It was too hot a potato for the SC but lesser courts are now dealing with instances of election fraud. It will not disappear.
    
    The more Biden bumbles the greater the concern and even Kamalaisation will not be sufficient to contain Pelosi and her barbed wire. The issue of how much China is owed for its assistance has not yet publicly surfaced.
    There is more than one USA and it can be broken apart again without care.
    
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    March 12, 2021 1:02pm
lilman

Been at alert level 0 since 3rd day of level 4 lockdown last year

Haven’t signed in anywhere, will never, government need to stay out of my life.
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March 12, 2021 11:16am
- lifesgood
  
  Me too. Have never signed in and don’t intend to. This clown PM has just announced Auckland is in level 1. Oh wow, let’s bend our knees to the great saviour of the America’s Cup, we should all be so grateful that she saved us from the pestilence. Except we are not. There was absolutely no reason why we have had to spend the last week at level 2. This nonsense has got to stop.
  
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  March 12, 2021 11:47am
  - MCos
    
    The America’s Cup organization is laughing Level 1 or 2
    They already have $0.25bill public money.
    Furthermore
    Whoever wins this will be the last time Auckland will see the bloody thing.
    
    The people down there who benefit from the change in levels are the restaurants/bars in the vicinity.
    
    I happened to be in a suburban cafe when the level change was announced. I told the owner. The only difference it made to her was they were able to put two or three more tables out.
    
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    March 12, 2021 12:44pm
  - Nickc2
    
    The decision to revert to level 1 was made yesterday and should have been announced last night at the latest IMO. The rest is just window-dressing bull shit.
    The dopy ………….. announced the revert to level 1 at 1130 today FFS. Where are retailers/cafes/bars etc going to get required staff and stock given 30 minutes notice?
    Surely, if anybody in this Govt had ever had a real job, they could have bought this to her attention but no, it didn’t happen. Wankers the lot of em!
    
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    March 12, 2021 1:51pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Couple of times I signed in as ‘Donald Duck’
  They asked for my cellphone number and I said ‘Ducks don’t have phones’
  Still got served.
  
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  March 12, 2021 1:12pm
Maggie Pie

My ‘doubles-partner’ tweets…..

“But can he hang wallpaper?” 😀

https://twitter.com/Not_the_Bee/status/1370099881147252739
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March 12, 2021 11:19am
- kevn
  
  @Maggie… Impressive, attitude plus guts.
  But, so many stupid tweet comments. Reminds me why I wouldn’t bother getting on the tweet wagon.
  Reading random via KB is enough.
  
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  March 12, 2021 11:39am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Fair enuff Kev….each to there own 😀
    
    I’ve been part of the ‘Twitterati’ for nearly 5 years
    
    ( Etymology = twitter + literati )
    
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    March 12, 2021 12:13pm
    - fernglas
      
      Etymology : Twit and Maserati. Sound like anyone you know?
      
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      March 12, 2021 1:13pm
70andstilllearning

Bloody hell – 1:07s – – she must be getting message.
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March 12, 2021 11:38am
RW Capitalist

Just turned the TV on to watch the news.
Jacinda was on, the first 3 words I heard were ……
“To be clear”
NOTE
When any politician says the words “to be clear”
no matter the subject, be assured…..it was them that muddied the waters, fudged the subject, clouded the meaning……in the first place.
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March 12, 2021 11:44am
Ehlana

Auckland moves to alert level 1 from midday today

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-auckland-moves-to-alert-level-one-today/XZEVVUVHC3ASJYF5OYJYN2X6LU/
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March 12, 2021 11:45am
- hullkiwi
  
  Yes, and she needed a special broadcast at 11.30am to tell us we’ll be at Level 1 from noon.
  
  Three things:
  1. We rubbish the North Koreans for such broadcasts/utterances from the mouth of Kim Yong Un (are we no better);
  2. This is Orwell’s 1984, the only “truth” comes from the Beehive podium (since when);
  3. What is she hiding and distracting our attention from at 12.30am on a Friday?
  
  Jacinda is the worst of a Soviet, North Korean, Chinese style propaganda self deluded leader.
  
  Thank you to the steeple who voted for this!
  
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  March 12, 2021 12:24pm
  - Ehlana
    
    The answer to number 3 could be this: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/aucklands-31-billion-transport-plan-includes-half-price-public-transport-for-the-poor/APZ7RFJFZ753MBZ5BU6T2ZCB2M/.
    
    Though since the Herald found it, I guess it wasn’t well hidden enough.
    
    Were any talking parties due to report back now?
    
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    March 12, 2021 1:46pm
JibberJabber

All Hail, Saint Cindy patron Saint of Stockholm Syndrome…
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March 12, 2021 12:04pm
Tasman Terror

Last Friday morning imagine if the Prime Minister appeared on The Chase Celebrity programme…..

Ms Ardern we have just heard a Tsunami is about to hit New Zealand, do you:
A Phone a friend;
B Run for the hills;
C Leave it to the Civil Defence Minister to sort
out; or
D Form a working group.

She replies: Bradley, as Prime Minister of Aotearoa New Zealand I would be kind to the team of five million and keep my correspondence with Irish primary school children, and then do my photo shoot with House and Garden magazine.
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March 12, 2021 12:07pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  She would blame Trump for the tsunami
  
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  March 13, 2021 8:12am
curry4me

https://amgreatness.com/2021/03/10/newly-revealed-emails-show-green-bay-officials-gave-keys-to-2020-election-to-dem-operative-from-ny/

Dem election Malarkey in Wisconsin.

In Green Bay, a Democrat activist was actually given keys to the room where absentee ballots were stored before the 2020 presidential election.
The city received a total of $1.6 million in grant funding from the Zuckerberg-funded Center for Tech and Civic Life, according to Wisconsin Spotlight. A Democrat operative from New York named Michael Spitzer-Rubenstein became a “grant mentor.”
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March 12, 2021 12:12pm
curry4me

https://www.bitchute.com/video/rl32Yas16_c/

Media Falls for Impeach Queen Elizabeth Tweet.

The usual suspects fell for it, hook, line, and sinker. Another wanted
Congress into session for that purpose. Another wanted her impeached before her next election. Ah, all those trained professional ‘journalists’. So much for the ‘Twit-terverse’. [A bit of humor for Friday afternoon.]
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March 12, 2021 12:13pm
Maggie Pie

Surely to goodness….must be better things he could be doing?
Like say ticketing an innocent woman on the way home from tennis for doing 5km over the odds in her 911Turbo.

https://twitter.com/NZPCommissioner/status/1369926717490393090
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March 12, 2021 12:29pm
NoFax

Eli Lilly has announced they have finished their stage 3 trials of their combo drug to treat Covid-19. For mild to moderate patients it reduced hospitalization and death by 87%. It has been approved in the US since February and in Europe this month. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-lilly-idUSKBN2B21C0

If we now have a very effective treatment (and early treatment is always better) then I don’t understand why we need further restrictions. Most people who aren’t at risk (such as those under 65 and and the PM as she said herself) then we don’t need to do all this nonsense and open our borders, especially to Australia. And to be very clear I am not suggesting this as alternative to vaccines just a supplement.
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March 12, 2021 12:44pm
RW Capitalist

Embarrassed today
Sent the link to live stream the wife’s funeral (yesterday) to relatives in UK and Norway, should have rung to confirm, it ended up in their junk folder and they missed it….embarrassing.
They will watch it recorded (not the same).
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March 12, 2021 1:02pm
JibberJabber

Sometimes the headlines just right themselves…

What did she think the C in KFC stood for? Couscous?https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1370113768491917318

KFC customer feels ‘discriminated’ against after finding no meat-free meals on menu.

“We both left and said we’ll go elsewhere for food – my partner said it’s not fair so we ended up having fish and chips.”

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March 12, 2021 1:03pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  In Christchurch KFC sell “chook”, it’s of unspecified origins supposedly non-meat. Tastes not-bad, OK.
  
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  March 12, 2021 7:01pm
RW Capitalist

A story to tell
The kind of thing that makes me proud to be a Kiwi
Many moons ago, when the hair had colour.
I was hitchhiking in Canada,
I had just got off the ferry to Vancouver Island, heading to Victoria,
Slapped my bright orange backpack with a NZ flag on it, on the side of the road.
No soon had I done that, a VW combie van (cliche) slammed on his brakes slid slightly sideways to a halt, backed up to me. A very excited Canadian got out and said…”I hitched in NZ for 6 months, never had any trouble getting a ride, got put up by all sorts of people.
Get in, I figure I owe you.”
We left a great impression on him, makes ya proud.
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March 12, 2021 1:13pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/124516650/allez-les-bleus-the-south-islands-only-officially-recognised-frenchenglish-bilingual-school-where-students-are-fluent-by-year-6
Sacre bleu !
Now this I like !
Roll it out for the rest of the country please !
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March 12, 2021 1:24pm
- ISeeRed
  
  I learned French at high school. Interesting academic exercise but mostly useless in everyday life.
  
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  March 12, 2021 2:56pm
  - Tall Man
    
    I, my wife and my three sons are all “passable” in French.
    
    I have used it throughout Europe and even here in NZ conversing/assisting tourists plus in Tahiti when we had friends residing there.
    
    It has been useful to me than than the 6th form economics that failed to teach me anything.
    
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    March 12, 2021 3:38pm
  - greybeard
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language
    Au contraire.
    As you can see, French is a true international language and a bloody sight more useful than “te reo” or even Mandarin / Cantonese.
    It is used globally.
    
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    March 12, 2021 4:27pm
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    I got 30% in School Cert French, and it has been a bigger help to me than any study of differential calculus.
    
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    March 12, 2021 4:35pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Council at the milking again. Auckland Transport now sell masks from vending machines at bus and train stations. Never let an imagined crisis go to waste, hit the peasants as hard as you can – they have no choice, so will comply.
Bastards.
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March 12, 2021 1:34pm
- sooty
  
  Dollar down and a dollar late!
  Dont think you need them know.
  Never mind. Can use them next time. Maybe phool goof knows something he’s not telling!
  
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  March 12, 2021 10:17pm
graham

No idea who Emily Ratajkowski is, but sounds like she has some … unusual ideas.

Emily Ratajkowski and husband Sebastian Bear-McClard have welcomed their baby into the world.

The couple announced the birth of son Sylvester Apollo Bear on Instagram today, revealing he was born on March 8.

The supermodel wrote in the magazine that she was going to raise her firstborn non-binary and at 18, their child will inform them of their gender.

“When my husband and I tell friends that I’m pregnant, their first question after ‘Congratulations’ is almost always ‘Do you know what you want?'” she wrote.

“We like to respond that we won’t know the gender until our child is 18 and that they’ll let us know then.

Ri-i-ight.

And this, folks, is just one reason why we have so many kids who are unbelievably confused about just what the hell they are.

She continued: “Everyone laughs at this … “

Gee, I wonder why?!

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/emily-ratajkowski-gives-birth-to-first-baby-sylvester-apollo-bear/WY7SAMFUB7XC2KJRRSSVIEDIXE/
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March 12, 2021 1:37pm
- Gravelroad
  
  @graham:
  That’s odd because the choice of name for this child would indicate that he is a boy.
  Is Sylvester still a boy’s name? Apollo?
  If this child is supposed to announce their gender at 18, you would think these attention seeking people would have gone for a non-gender specific name.
  It’s all about the adults isn’t it – never the child – when it comes to woke gender stuff and stupid names the poor kid has to carry for the rest of its life.
  
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  March 12, 2021 2:07pm
- kowtow
  
  Another Hollyweird fruitloop .
  
  One wonders if they do this shit to keep their profiles as high as possible.
  
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  March 12, 2021 2:24pm
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    Must be the reason. It works though. Never heard of her until now. I can save her 18 years though: if Sylvester has a penis, then Sylvester is a boy. If he declares otherwise at 18, then he is clearly a deeply disturbed young man who has inherited his parents’ questionable cognitive capacity. Just believing something doesn’t make it so.
    
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    March 12, 2021 3:34pm
- Batman
  
  Giving Emily a pass here due to her being ridiculously hot.
  
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  March 12, 2021 2:31pm
  - kowtow
    
    Child abuse is never OK.
    
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    March 12, 2021 2:44pm
    - Batman
      
      You’re accidentally or intentionally conflating actual child abuse with imaginary child abuse dreamed up as part of a quote nutty conspiracy delusion.
      
      Neither are ok, for different reasons.
      
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      March 12, 2021 3:00pm
      - Apropos of the Wet Snow
        
        Yes, boys having a penis and testicles, and girls having vulvas is a nutty conspiracy theory, albeit a very very ancient and persistent conspiracy.
        
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        March 12, 2021 3:39pm
      - Adroit
        
        So you’re saying that raising a child ‘gender-neutral’ (as if that were possible), is something other than child abuse?
        
        You’re off your rocker.
        
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        March 12, 2021 5:49pm
  - Tall Man
    
    So Batman has good taste … who’d a thought!
    
    https://vimeo.com/73851503
    
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    March 12, 2021 3:34pm
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    Does that mean your on a heavy dose of metoprolol batyboy? You poor fulla 🙂 🙂
    
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    March 12, 2021 4:02pm
  - graham
    
    So being hot makes everything alright, does it Batman?
    
    Doesn’t matter what she does, because she’s ‘hot’.
    
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    March 12, 2021 4:39pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      Nup – my 4 grandaughters would beat her.
      
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      March 12, 2021 7:57pm
      - RichardX
        
        That’s pretty creepy, almost like Trump and his daughter.
        
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        March 12, 2021 11:29pm
- I remember when
  
  Eighteen years seems like a long time to keep your eyes closed.
  
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  March 12, 2021 3:59pm
David Garrett

So, the Prime Minister’s concubine knew about the alert level move – no doubt due to pillow talk – before the rest of the country was informed.

He was dumb enough to share that information on Twitter, the wide open place where twits communicate with each other. The Princess now claims that she didn’t tell him…thus treating us all as if we are as stupid as the boyfriend clearly is.
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March 12, 2021 2:56pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yes,
  about as convincing as believing that Dr Bloomfield didn’t know that he couldn’t accept freebies to Sports games.
  
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  March 12, 2021 3:01pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Best ask Trademe Trev, he would know this shit
    
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    March 12, 2021 3:15pm
  - kowtow
    
    I can’t help but feel the Media Pardy has moved on very quickly from this one too , like they will with the First Partners’ very injudicious tweet .
    
    It’s great to be so popular that no one can do no wrong…….
    
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    March 12, 2021 3:32pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  My ears told me that she said ” I haven’t seen him since yesterday…” . However:
  His twat piece was ” Martin an inprinciple decision was decided but its all pending on final test results today.” which is remarkably similar to the the “communication” we all received around 11:30 a.m.
  
  I do suspect he will receive a really good bollocking when she does “see” him given time-wise it precedes Parker’s equally giveaway comment so pillow talk could could be a long way off. 🙂 🙂
  
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  March 12, 2021 3:49pm
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    Incidentally I can’t find what ” inprinciple” means.
    Does that mean stupid or poor mobile reception?
    
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    March 12, 2021 3:54pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    She doesn’t need to have seen him…we have these fan-dangled inventions nowadays called telephones, emails, skype calls, etc…
    
    Lying by omission?
    
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    March 12, 2021 7:26pm
Maggie Pie

WOW!! So sad to hear who the alleged high-profile sportsman was that’s been named today 🙁

Although it does show the problem when courts grant name suppression in cases like this. People are often too quick to jump to the wrong conclusions.
For months my partner had fingered a famous transgender sportsman. Shows you can never be too careful.
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March 12, 2021 2:56pm
- David Garrett
  
  Maggie: and here I was thinking you were a pretty switched on and worldly woman…drugs and boxing have been fellow travellers for as long as gin and tonic…
  
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  March 12, 2021 3:04pm
- Tall Man
  
  “For months my partner had fingered a famous transgender sportsman”
  
  Maybe a rephrasing is in order Maggie…….. 😉
  
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  March 12, 2021 3:20pm
- Apropos of the Wet Snow
  
  “For months my partner had fingered a famous transgender sportsman.”
  
  No further comment.
  
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  March 12, 2021 3:28pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The legend Sir Colin Meads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMP_Q83efiU
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March 12, 2021 3:13pm
Cobolt24

“New Zealand’s coal imports rose 41% in the last quarter of 2020 over 2019 as the nation prepares for tightening gas supply, according to the New Zealand Energy Quarterly put out by the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment today.” (paywalled source: energynewsbulletin.net)

At the same time we’re looking to import more gas from Australia, where we have proven reserves here…

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU2103/S00074/importing-natural-gas-from-australia-another-step-closer.htm
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March 12, 2021 3:14pm
- kowtow
  
  When the power bills go mad and we get even more “fuel poverdy” I’m hoping all those Nongs who gave this gubmint its mandate go shivering and whinging ………
  
  And remember that Woods was the face of the death of our oil and gas exploration industry .
  
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  March 12, 2021 4:33pm
- kevn
  
  @Cobalt… I always thought ‘The Wrecker’ was more suitable to queen cindy.
  
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  March 12, 2021 5:51pm
Happychappy

The supposed to be most honest person in the Country is at it again with her lies and deciet and the publc just look and say there is the best Prime Minister NZ has had , forget about the pillar talk that Jacinda’s fiancee learnt last night about the Auckland lockdown and used to inform his friends on Twitter before the official announcement, lying has become a daily occurrence for our Prime Minister. So will we again see the NZ Police jump in again to the rescue of Clark Gayford and shut all comments regarding this obvious abuse of power by Jacinda Ardern our Prime Minister or will she front up and tell the truth for once.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/03/jacinda-ardern-hits-back-at-claims-covid-19-alert-level-decision-was-made-the-night-before.html
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March 12, 2021 3:23pm
- kevn
  
  @Happy… and clarke said me. “I got the goss. You heard it here first”.
  
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  March 12, 2021 5:50pm
I remember when

CDC says masks can come off at home.
CDC now says vaccinated Americans can remove masks in small gatherings in home.
“A growing body of evidence now says fully vaccinated people can resume some activities at low risk to themselves,” CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said at a White House briefing.
“Vaccinated people should continue to wear masks in public places like restaurants and gyms.”
What is the point of vaccination again?
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March 12, 2021 3:45pm
Maggy Wassilieff

David Bromwell on NZ & Hate speech

In a society as diverse as ours, we don’t all need to like each other. We will not always or often reach reasonable agreement. And there will always be idiots who shoot their mouths off. In a democratic society, we just need to learn to live together in all our difference, resolving our conflicts politically without recourse to domination, humiliation, cruelty or violence.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/12/after-christchurch-hate-speech-policy-should-focus-on-harm-not-offence-taken
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March 12, 2021 3:48pm
theoldbloke

Oh dear!
Another journalist skimming the subject and writing for clicks.
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/chris-lynch-travellers-not-paying-miq-bills-need-to-be-dealt-with/

What he didnt do is dig in to the actual numbers who were legally not required to pay(ie Returning Kiwis staying in NuZelt for more than 90 days and being outside the country before August.

He would have found that the dumbarse MBIE invoiced everyone!!!! And required an application to waive the fees.

In my case I was invoiced 1 month after leaving MIQ. and being given 90 days to pay.

If the question was how many hadnt paid within 90 days of arrival….Then of course it would show huge numbers as unpaid.

But I guess the facts dont make good clickbait!
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March 12, 2021 4:07pm
pdm

Am I the only one watching TVNZ coverage of the yachting and thinking what a bunch of bloody dickheads they have in `off site’ presenters.

Do they think we are idiots?

That was rhetorical about us being idiots – I know we are – there must be a better way to watch the races.
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March 12, 2021 5:14pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  I only watch it in the hope of seeing my partner’s launch anchored out in the spectator fleet. Other than that it bores me sh*tless.
  At least Dean made it exciting when he capsized.
  
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  March 12, 2021 6:56pm
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    Ah MP, I do remember you saying something about your partner’s boat last yr. Terminology was the subject I recall: starboard, port, stern, bow, d… b…., helm, etc,etc,…..
    Guess you really don’t like boats. 🙂 🙂
    
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    March 12, 2021 8:03pm
- alex Masterley
  
  pdm,
  Sadly these idiot off site presenters are talking to idiots.
  I tune out when they come on. Especially Ms Street and the Maori guy whose name I dont know.
  Both Jan Shearer and Dean Barker are worth listening to because they have done the hard yards on the water and in Deans case because he knows what these boats are about.
  The discussion around the round table at the squaddie is that it is the start stupid. That was demonstrated twice today.
  If you want delayed coverage with good comentators then Ewe Tube has a good offering but it is delayed by about 5-10 seconds.
  
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  March 12, 2021 7:40pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Go to:
  https://www.americascup.com/en/live
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:18pm
Jack5

The Southland Times reports NZ Oil and Gas has relinquished the South Island’s last deep-sea oil and gas search permit. And the regional newspaper seems pleased about that.

It was the last gas and oil exploration permit outside the Taranaki basin, the Southland Times reports.

For decades this regional newspaper, and others in our deep south, hyped up the possibilities of a North Sea-scale oil find in the Great South Basin. There was even talk of Invercargill’s Mayor flying to Aberdeen to see how the NZ city might cope. Every second Southlander knew someone who reckoned they’d seen a bottle of oil found in early exploration.

Now the Leftist-Green media seem pleased there won’t be any oil or gas comng to the economic rescue.

The Southland Times report includes:

Greenpeace campaigner Amanda Larsson said “this is another win for the climate, for wildlife and for people power.

“… We are one step closer to being the clean, green nation that so many New Zealanders want us to be.”
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March 12, 2021 7:28pm
Maggie Pie

BREAKING…

Waiting media ask Prince William, “Are the Royal Family racists?”

The Prince responds “….the Royals are very much NOT a racist family”

Well butter my butt and call me a muffin. F – – ing Brilliant!!
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March 12, 2021 7:31pm
- Jack5
  
  Well William couldn’t very well say: “Now look, his hairdresser can tell you that my little brother, ??‍? Harry, is a red-raghead , so how can our family be racist?”
  
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  March 12, 2021 7:45pm
Jack5

My Food Bag shares were down to $1.61 on the NZ Stock Exchange today, a week after listing at $1.85.

Some mum and dad investors will likely be annoyed with advisers or brokers. Their investment is down 13 per cent.
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March 12, 2021 7:40pm
- Tall Man
  
  Looks like institutions and management bailed quickly. Not a good look especially when the institutional investor probably bought at a discount.
  
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  March 12, 2021 8:58pm
- V
  
  Yes looks like My Food Bag has created some bagholders out of the gate. Not surprising when the majority of the raise is paying out existing shareholders. Still there is a price for everything as they say.
  
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  March 13, 2021 9:18pm
Maggie Pie

Even more BREAKING NEWS i thort worth sharing with the group……

A real-estate bestie in Manhattan has txt us to say that Jeffery Epstein’s mansion on the Upper East side has just sold for 51 mill

You get it here first 😀
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March 12, 2021 8:04pm
Tall Man

When ACC is not enough …

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/03/christchurch-mosque-attack-govt-announces-million-dollar-fund-to-support-victims-and-families.html

Good enough for the rest of us though.
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