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Happychappy

On going $50 million Training scheme creates four new Maori jobs in eight months.
The Government has been accused of working at a glacial pace on fixing Maori Unemployment as a ongoing $50 million training scheme has created just four new Maori jobs in eight months.
The Maori Trades and training funds a contestable Grant initiative from Covid-19 Response and Recovery package in Budget 2020, proposals must be by- Maori for Maori aiming to up skill participants and provide ” meaningful opportunities into employment”.
The proposals should be able to get up and running quickly to respond to the impact of Covid-19, so far $11.4 million has been committed to approved projects with $1.8 million paid out.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/124666099/50-million-mori-trades-and-training-fund-produces-four-jobs-so-far-since-june
According to the latest Household Labour Survey over three quarters since the start of the impact of Covid-19 about 8100 Maori have been displaced or lost their jobs.
With 15 MP’s 4 Cabinet Ministers and the mouth of all mouths Willie Jackson Labour still can’t find Maori jobs.
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March 27, 2021 8:00am
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  Follow the money and see where it actually went. Sad.
  
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  March 27, 2021 8:20am
  - sooty
    
    It went straight into their tummy!
    
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    March 27, 2021 2:54pm
- Tomtoddy
  
  I will bet there are some well fed fatcat consultants enjoying the training scheme, though. Along with a bevy of overpaid bureaucrats.
  
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  March 27, 2021 8:32am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    A ‘bevy of bureaucrats’? Is that the correct collective noun for public servants?
    How about a ‘scoping of bureaucrats’, or a ‘somnolence of officials’?
    
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    March 27, 2021 8:48am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Three hours in moderation.
      DPF/moderators – please advise if you need extra help.
      
      [Mod – it’s such a nice day, we all seem to have gone out simultaneously!]
      
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      December 27, 2020 12:20pm
      - Nickc2
        
        TKS. I thought I was the only one.
        
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        March 27, 2021 1:41pm
    - Ed Snack
      
      Have a rare upvote Mikey, that was a worthwhile contribution ! I’ll have to cogitate on a suitable collective noun myself now.
      
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      March 27, 2021 1:09pm
    - doublehappy
      
      Scoping is actually usually a useful discussion, so that couldn’t apply. Somnolence could apply if used in conjunction with Corrupt and nugatory. Then they would be useless, biased, and half asleep. Sums them up well.
      
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      March 27, 2021 1:19pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      a vexation of bureaucrats
      
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      March 27, 2021 2:44pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      A bludge of bureaucrats, an orifice of officials and something for the ‘experts’ that are referred to but never quantified in the reporting.
      
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      March 27, 2021 6:12pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    A friend is a senior public servant in Wellington. She said that the public service has never been so busy or so well funded. There are literally hundreds of strategies, working groups and consultantion papers in progress.
    
    There is also an insistence on extensive consultation with “our Treaty Partners”. This consultation takes literally months to even design because it often breaks down into arguments about who to consult and on what. Then when consultation starts, progress is slow. The consultation requires hundreds of Maori visiting Wellington and hundreds of public servants visiting marae around New Zealand.
    
    Public servants are being trained in te reo and Maori protocol. In turn, this has created a profitable business in teaching such things.
    
    Meanwhile the underlying policies that are being consulted on rarely make sense or are damaging.
    
    Hearing stories like this from the “donkey’s mouth” as kiwis say is always amazing to me.
    
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    March 27, 2021 9:40am
    - pdm
      
      ` The consultation requires hundreds of Maori visiting Wellington and hundreds of public servants visiting marae around New Zealand.’
      
      At respective Iwi’s cost I would hope.
      
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      March 27, 2021 1:25pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        You are dreaming.
        
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        March 27, 2021 4:16pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  All hui; no doey
  
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  March 27, 2021 8:49am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    No fui.
    
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    March 27, 2021 9:08am
    - pdm
      
      Kev – all phooey!!!
      
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      March 27, 2021 9:59am
  - Thought Criminal
    
    All koha no go-a.
    
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    March 27, 2021 10:27am
    - kowtow
      
      My taxey , they takey.
      
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      March 27, 2021 1:11pm
- Scott
  
  Two things strike me happy chappy. One is the waste of funds. How can anything cost so much for so little good? Surely there needs to be an audit of the entire scheme?
  
  Secondly is the absurdity and hypocrisy of Maori employment schemes by Maori and for Maori.
  Let’s imagine a white person who is concerned about the unemployment of friends and relatives? He notices throughout his town that lots of young white people are unemployed. So he wants to start an employment programme – by white people, for white people.
  Would that scheme receive any government funding?
  How many seconds would it take for the scheme to be denounced as totally racist?
  That’s the hypocrisy. All race based funding and schemes should be discontinued in my opinion.
  Programmes should be based on need and not race.
  
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  March 27, 2021 8:53am
  - calendar girl
    
    Well said, Scott.
    
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    March 27, 2021 4:46pm
- redeye
  
  If you haven’t read or watched Mikes Minute this week it’s worth it. He, obviously pissed at the Cindy snub, goes full retard on the government. And its difficult to disagree with anything he says.
  https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/video/mikes-minute-could-this-be-the-worst-week-for-the-government/
  
  “The fact all this unfolded in the one-year anniversary of level 4, just reminded us what a shambolic, disorganised, unprofessionally, ill planned for year this has been.”
  
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  March 27, 2021 9:08am
- Tricati
  
  At the same time Labour cans the $50 million R & D programme for business. One generates jobs and the other virtue signalling – Is there anything this mob have introduced, or done, that has advanced all of NZ.
  https://ondemand.parliament.nz/parliament-tv-on-demand/?itemId=217230&fbclid=IwAR1BUunHEkzW1PfuRq2MUaRVevHRTIzQWZoWXMhzO9-I-Hw3kxWuowqwOf0
  
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  March 27, 2021 9:18am
- Mr_Blobby
  
  Another classic case of fraud.
  
  Sorry I mean Koha.
  
  No redress for years of oppression and colonisation.
  
  How about a bribe.
  
  Would you believe ripping off the pakeha scum.
  
  Any way you look at it, it was never intended to achieve the stated claims.
  
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  March 27, 2021 9:54am
- rangitoto
  
  What is a Maori job?
  
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  March 27, 2021 9:55am
  - Bob
    
    Basket weaving.
    Great sales idea, attractive to the visiting international tourists…
    oh I forgot, they aren’t allowed into NZ are they???
    
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    March 27, 2021 4:40pm
- cmm
  
  Remember that they don’t count actual outcomes as achievements – all they count is spending.
  
  More money from the Brongos. The NGOs have zero interest in actually fixing the problems. If they did it would kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
  
  There’s a nice little symbiotic relationship between the government and the Brongos:
  * The government need to spend money to be seen to be doing something (the more spent the better, and spending it on the right colour NGOs is better).
  * The Brongos want the money and provide a service to the government of looking like the government are doing something.
  
  The people that aren’t in this picture are the people who are supposedly gaining from the exercise: poor brown people.
  
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  March 27, 2021 10:00am
  - Gravelroad
    
    @cmm: I would be interested to know what accountabilities came out of the multi-millions the ill-prepared, Peters appointed Labour government spent on their plethora of working groups.
    Apart from flying random people around, accommodating them in hotels and taking them out for lunch – what was achieved?
    Anyone have access to a list of outcomes from those
    tax payer funded hols?
    I suspect it schooled most of the participants how to get free money to spend on their grievances, hobbies and wish lists.
    
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    March 27, 2021 10:11am
    - tf78
      
      Gravel, I’m sure no such list exists so don’t hold your breath.
      
      All this government has succeeded in doing is dividing the country – in that they have achieved an ‘A’ for excellence.
      
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      March 27, 2021 10:30am
    - crikey
      
      Just remember, a report is not an outcome.
      
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      March 27, 2021 11:48am
    - Gulag1917
      
      Cabinet ministers need to read “The Peter Principle”.
      
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      March 27, 2021 12:12pm
      - Paulus
        
        That means that if Cabinet Minister read “The Peter Principle’ it pre supposes that they can read, let alone comprehend it !
        Nah !
        
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        March 27, 2021 1:31pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Bro – 50M well spent. That is what Cindy will say. Now with the increased tax on rich pricks from April 1st, Robber(t)son will have more money to waste….
  
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  March 27, 2021 10:25am
  - RightFirstTime
    
    Some of those “rich pricks” won’t be rich for much longer. This socialist/communist government will make sure of that.
    
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    March 27, 2021 3:17pm
- backster
  
  How long would it take to train them to pick up apples.
  
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  March 27, 2021 12:54pm
  - kowtow
    
    Apples are a colonial ,imperial construct .
    
    Picking apples = oppression.
    
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    March 27, 2021 1:13pm
    - Bob
      
      Picking apples = work = oppression;… and impinges on my liberty.
      
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      March 27, 2021 4:41pm
mikenmildagain

Happy International Whisky Day!
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March 27, 2021 8:00am
- RalphT
  
  I’ll drink to that.
  
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  March 27, 2021 8:27am
- Rumblestrip
  
  What… just one day a year?
  
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  March 27, 2021 8:40am
- MCos
  
  Miserable sods downtick that too!
  
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  March 27, 2021 8:42am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I’ll bite.
  
  I’ll drink to that!
  
  sigh . . .
  
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  March 27, 2021 8:49am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Soooooooooooooo, two and a half hours in moderation, whom have I offended?
    
    Mr Frusdrated, Auckland.
    
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    March 27, 2021 12:09pm
    - JibberJabber
      
      2 & 1/2 hours?….you were Lucky!
      
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      March 27, 2021 1:28pm
- mandk
  
  Slainte mhath.
  
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  March 27, 2021 9:05am
- Tall Man
  
  Whiskey included?
  
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  March 27, 2021 9:11am
- Don Beckett
  
  Now that is a very worthwhile “Happy” comment, mma.
  
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  March 27, 2021 10:21am
- Charmaine Hawke
  
  I will raise an Aberlour in honour of this great day later tonight.
  
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  March 27, 2021 10:31am
  - mandk
    
    I’ll see your Aberlour and raise you a 10 year old Bowmore.
    
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    March 27, 2021 2:16pm
- KiwiSapper
  
  I’ll drink to that…………as there is a Glenfiddich lurking in the drinks cabinet and it must be lonely.
  
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  March 27, 2021 11:03am
- Tony Stuart
  
  I’ll have to get the 15yo Glenlivet (15 years, at time of purchase six years ago!) out tonight, and have a wee dram 😀
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:02pm
  - chukar
    
    Stick to 45 South,
    Buy local
    
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    March 27, 2021 8:33pm
  - Anthony Coates
    
    Whisky doesn’t age further in bottle like wine. The good news is it’s much more robust, but you won’t gain anything by keeping it.
    
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    March 27, 2021 8:35pm
- Ed Snack
  
  Is that a “wry” comment ? Or just a sour mash-up.
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:12pm
mjw

Interesting to see the building supply chain start to creak badly. This is one of the problems of having such a small country – economies of scale drive us towards highly concentrated markets, which then lack the competitive impulse to maintain efficiency. It’s a real problem, and a very tough nut to crack.
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March 27, 2021 8:06am
- Tall Man
  
  Add in “supply line” issues and a real problem begins.
  
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  March 27, 2021 9:12am
- jgw739
  
  Yes mjw, across the board there are shortages of both finished building goods and raw materials. In a lot of cases it seems to be products held up at the port. The may be no simple solution but we won’t build houses without fixing it.
  
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  March 27, 2021 9:48am
- Mr_Blobby
  
  Nah the answer to the problem is to TAX it.
  
  Except if the answer to a problem is to TAX it you know it is a con.
  
  Ideology trumps economic reality, until it doesn’t.
  
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  March 27, 2021 9:57am
- KevO'Brien
  
  See this:
  https://www.odt.co.nz/business/diy-stores-face-critical-shortage-amid-housing-push
  
  Timber supplies being denied distributors. Smaller builders may go to wall.
  
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  March 27, 2021 4:21pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    Just like a slow train wreck Kev,
    
    Writing was on the wall in regards to supply chains as previously commented on during the past year.
    
    Exactly as previously quoted.
    
    Next tip, its not going to get better in a hurry.
    
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    March 27, 2021 5:24pm
otago-man

Safe enough to Hongi Cook Islands PM but not safe enough to travel there yet ????
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March 27, 2021 8:11am
G152

Noticed liebor are finally taking John Keys advice and getting out of the mine recovery business.
Took them long enough
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March 27, 2021 8:13am
Tomtoddy

Submissions on the Climate Change Commission’s recommendations close tomorrow. Hope you have all made a submission.

Meanwhile the UN has announced that the few countries that have made commitments under the Paris Accord offered emissions reductions of less than -1%, in 2030 compared to 2010 whereas the IPCC, wanted -45% in 2030 compared to 2010.
We intend to exceed the targets set by the Accord. The big polluters like India and China clearly have no intention of delivering and probably could not even if they wanted to. India is currently opening 32 new coal mines, dozens of coal fired power stations and is expecting coal use to be up 40% by 2030.

China recently declared wind and solar as “unreliable” and in their 5 year plan there is no sign of any reduction in coal use. There are some 4 new coal fired power stations opening each week.

Why should we make big, bold sacrifices while the big emitters go on ignoring the Accord? We are putting our economy to the sword for absolutely no measurable gain and much of the rest of the world laughs at us.
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March 27, 2021 8:29am
- kowtow
  
  Why ?
  
  It’s so our Swamp Elites can virtue signal on the int’l stage ,while we Plebs are impoverished by their grand standing.
  
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  March 27, 2021 8:36am
- Gravelroad
  
  @Tom Toddy- but surely the reason is simple:
  It’s all about the power.
  The power of keeping the Labour Party in Government at any cost and for as long as possible.
  Likewise, Mr James Shaw and his band of misfits.
  We have thousands of naive voters here who will buy into the anti-coal and gas rhetoric and feel they are helping to save the world.
  
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  March 27, 2021 8:46am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    ‘We have thousands of naive voters here who will buy into the anti-coal and gas’ until the lights go out on our economy.
    
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    March 27, 2021 8:51am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      12.10
      Soooooooooooooo, three hours in moderation, whom have I offended?
      
      Mr Frusdrated, Auckland.
      
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      March 27, 2021 12:10pm
    - TWEEDSE
      
      It’s hilarious. Anti gas and coal. Aucklands primary power source Huntley. Soon to be coal only.
      
      Next time you come across some virtuous electric car bore, ask them how their coal powered car is going.
      
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      March 27, 2021 1:11pm
      - Master Mariner
        
        Be interesting how many Hospitals have changed there Coal fired Boilers?
        
        Honest question? Does anyone know?
        
        The obvious solution would be Gas.
        
        However to make the Quantum leap to hydrogen or windmills is going to take a serious amount of time and not too mention Money to save us all for Climate change//
        
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        March 27, 2021 5:27pm
  - tf78
    
    Until the lights go out.
    
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    March 27, 2021 10:31am
- Scott
  
  Well put tomtoddy. The climate change accords are all about equality. The first world rich countries should cut back on their carbon emissions. India and China should carry on building coal fired plants till 2030 so there can be “equality”.
  Punishing the west while lifting up other countries. It’s a Marxist scheme at its root IMHO.
  
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  March 27, 2021 8:57am
- I remember when
  
  Newsflash 2030.
  The world is .01% cooler than it might have been.
  THANK YOU NEW ZEALAND
  
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  March 27, 2021 9:15am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Error bands, +/- 0.5 degrees.
    
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    March 27, 2021 1:14pm
I remember when

Covid-19: Unused vaccines offered to nearby businesses in Christchurch. RNZ:
The suggestion being that it was a result of bad planning.
I have some sympathy for the MOH and Government on this one.
If a quarter to a third of the population is ‘risk averse’ the roll out will always be difficult.
This is common practice overseas and a recognised behaviour in the UK.
When the Government is playing games with vaccines for political gain, failing to be decisive, let’s berate them.
In this case, it would be far worse if the vaccine was wasted.
It was always going to happen – it’s media confetti!
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March 27, 2021 8:36am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Vaccine hesitancy in the UK is declining with many people who were hesitant changing their minds. It is likely that the UK will have 90 percent of people with at least one dose by the end of their summer. They are doing a great job.
  
  Meanwhile why do I need to listen to ads on the radio here that say “When will I get my covid vaccine?” “We will contact you” followed by stupid covid jungle. Totally useless. And who is this “we” who will be in touch.
  
  Absolutely useless. I guess I should stop being surprised.
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:13pm
I remember when

That Cook Island bubble:
Is this an iceberg. Is most of the news out of sight.
Jacinda talks about the need for the Cook Islanders to be vaccinated before the bubble.
But details of vaccine availability, or even our right to distribute to other countries, are scarce.
Cook Island Premier says they are desperately in need of work so they can survive.
Suggestion he made in one Tv clip was that only 40% of the workforce would remain by June.
Probably insufficient to adequately run and maintain their tourism service.
Does this explain some of the hesitancy with allowing fruit pickers into the country.
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March 27, 2021 8:49am
- pdm
  
  Cook Island Covid Cases – Nil, Zero, Zilch
  
  Why the hell do they need to be vaccinated.
  
  That bubble should have been opened in June or July.
  
  Jacinda chalks up destroying another economy to maintain control freak status.
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:33pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Has Ardern R. consulted Samoa. They have expressed opinions about NZ vaccination programs.
    
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    March 27, 2021 4:25pm
- Paulus
  
  I assume that what I have heard that as soon as the Cook Island bubble bursts we will be overwhelmed with Cook Islanders as there is no work there ?
  Too late for our orchards Cindy.
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:36pm
Albert_Ross

So the other day The Crowd Goes Wild covered the story of Richie McCaw being declared sportsman of the decade. Another rugby-man was interviewed about it and asked whether he thought a third, historical great rugby-man would have gone on stage with The Wiggles, as that same sportsman of the decade recently did. (Apologies for not being able to remember either of the names).

No way, he said, Historical Great had too much mana for that. He then hastened to add that of course McCaw has mana as well, but … trailed off unconvincingly.

What he had said is that “mana” is something that prevents a man from, or that is diminished by his, doing something that is out of his own comfort zone, but which will delight his two-year-old daughter. A man with mana puts his own preferences ahead of others’, even his family’s.

Can’t help feeling that this might tell us something about why we have such a problem with child abuse in this country.
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March 27, 2021 8:53am
I remember when

Let’s go back to the ‘Climate Change’ beginning:
Look out over the countryside, towns and cities and hills and mountains.
Do you immediately drift into a dream of the towns and cities being ‘beautified’ by the addition of solar panels on every available space.
Do you think, lets make sure we cover the hills and available mountains with turbines – as far as the eye can see.
Now, where will we put the recycling industries to allow us to reuse the battery materials and turbine blades.
Now where are all the tourists!
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March 27, 2021 9:03am
Maggy Wassilieff

I see the NZ Catholic Church has finally acknowledged the level of abuse by its priests and nuns which it has actively tried to cover up for decades.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/439211/catholic-church-formally-apologises-to-survivors-of-abuse

The one name that sticks in my throat over these issues is that of Dame Lyndsay Freer.
For years she was the go-to spokesperson for the Catholic Church every time a nasty incident involving the Catholic Church became public.
I wonder if she now feels she was being used by the Catholic hierarchy, or whether she believes she was doing Holy work.
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March 27, 2021 9:07am
- Nukuleka
  
  I think your attempt to name and presumably shame a specific person here is despicable. I can only assume that you have a personal beef with the person you name and that you are using your anonymity and this blog to settle a personal score. You are beneath contempt.
  
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  March 27, 2021 9:50am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    1. Lyndsay Freer was the leading apologist for the NZ Catholic church’s attempt to downplay its complicity in sexual abuse.
    2. Maggy Wassilief posts under her own name.
    
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    March 27, 2021 1:16pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Seriously?
    
    Who would choose Maggy Wassilieff as a pseudonym?
    
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    March 27, 2021 1:28pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    No, I do not know Dame Lyndsay Freer.
    No, I do not have a personal beef with the Catholic Church.
    
    Yes, I hate being lied to.
    
    For years Lyndsay Freer appeared on RNZ offering every form of deflection and excuse for the criminal behaviour of Catholic authorities.
    
    Never once did I hear how the Church was going to try and halt the abuses and carry out careful investigations into the extent of the horrors wreaked on their young charges.
    
    It’s no skin off my teeth if you find me beneath contempt Nukuleka… but I’m not the one offering excuses for an institution that hid and protected abusive members.
    
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    March 27, 2021 1:32pm
    - Swifty
      
      ….Hid, protected, covered up and enabled child rape on a massive scale.
      
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      March 27, 2021 1:51pm
  - Swifty
    
    Come on Nukuleka, be reasonable mate – nothing Maggy writes is ‘using her anonymity’ – she always writes under her own name.
    
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    March 27, 2021 1:49pm
- Harriet
  
  You do know that virtually all male teachers convicted of child type sex offences in NZ are married.
  
  I didn’t see nor hear of any participants in that institution ever being quizzed publicly – and wives aren’t victims.
  
  All we ever hear in NZ is that priests should be having sex, while male teachers and their wives are left alone.
  
  When you have the courage Maggi attack the Teachers Union. All Kids Matter. 😎
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:29pm
I remember when

The world is agog with the ongoing saga of the container vessel stuck in the Suez Canal.
Much news about the possible delays in receiving freight because of the mishap.
Why don’t we have regular updates on the shipping sitting at anchor in New Zealand – waiting for a berth.
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March 27, 2021 9:08am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  The Herald used to have a dedicated shipping column with arrivals and departures.
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:38pm
- Master Mariner
  
  An inconvenient truth.
  NZ is really at the mercy of shipping lines.
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:47pm
Ron Jeremy

Lift the tip tax rate pre election nothing tk see here only the rich will pay that . Deny any changes to the tax system emphatically. Introduce Capital gains tax forces more people into top tax rate if they sell an investment property, cunning. Paying interest with tax paid earnings with no deductibility for interest paid, tax rental turnover ,double taxation. It’s almost like it’s a well thought out plan.
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March 27, 2021 9:18am
- KevO'Brien
  
  The takeover of the Reserve Bank has not gone unnoticed outside NZ.
  Socialist trying to control home prices from beehiveland.
  
  https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/new-zealand-central-bank-bucks-global-spend-trend-will-manage-soaring-home-prices
  
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  March 27, 2021 4:30pm
  - chukar
    
    Hang on!
    Has Ardern actually directed the Reserve Bank to attend to the “housing bubble?
    
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    March 27, 2021 8:43pm
- Papalazarou
  
  The ‘tip tax rate’. That is very much a Ron Jeremy comment. ?
  
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  March 27, 2021 6:29pm
Nickc2

Well, that didn’t take long, did it? Cindy’s mob have fucked up the Covid-19 vaccine distribution system they took so long to plan.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-unused-vaccines-offered-to-nearby-businesses-in-christchurch/BBDXXY6H4YSJMGCZD332R3HPZE/
ANOTHER RESOUNDING LABOUR GOVT SUCCESS – NOT!
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March 27, 2021 9:20am
lazza

Worthy of repeating

Quote: Tomtoddy

I will bet there are some well fed fatcat consultants enjoying the training scheme, though. Along with a bevy of overpaid bureaucrats.

Thumb up 16 Thumb down 1REPLY REPORTMARCH 27, 2021 8:32AM

Totally Absolutely Accurate.

Sadly, Maori govt funded (misad) ventures are often either money trees for their elites or make work welfare schemes.

Both do little for our economy or GDP.
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March 27, 2021 9:28am
hullkiwi

This post is for real.

Has NZ and the South West Pacific been mortgaged to China without the public’s knowledge.

I kid you not, yesterday, I received 2 backnk statements from my bank in the Isle of Man.

The address on the bank statement was as follows:

R + A ************
*****************Road
************
RD1 Warkworth
Auckland 0981
China

When our son saw this, his language was incredulous. So, how does an international bank in the UK manage to achieve something like this other than a failed data transfer between computer systems. I say this because there were other errors in our address, after years of of sending mail to us.
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March 27, 2021 9:28am
- MCos
  
  Clearly the bank you trust is using kit from Huawei
  
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  March 27, 2021 3:00pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Malcolm Mckinnon offers a diplomatic solution when dealing with human rights and the Chinese Government

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/124666260/smarter-ways-to-oppose-human-rights-abuses-in-china
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March 27, 2021 9:29am
- kowtow
  
  ‘and by many in the New Zealand Chinese community.’
  
  Here we go again , treating a ‘community’ as if they all think the same ,rather than as individuals .
  
  ps I wonder when secession becomes more important than “self determination’ . No where does he mention the rights of people to decide their own destiny.
  
  Not in relation to this but funny how so many are in favour of things like Scots , Irish , Welsh self determination , but are so keen on the English being subject to a Brussels hegemony ……
  
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  March 27, 2021 10:05am
Jack5

A topic to enliven Saturday General Debate thread …

In Stuff, a headline, “Not all pregnant people are women, or mothers”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/parenting/pregnancy/300250546/not-all-pregnant-people-are-women-or-mothers
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March 27, 2021 9:40am
- doublehappy
  
  It turns my stomach!
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:49pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Nice way to fuck up a Saturday afternoon. I made the mistake of clicking on it. How about fucking off with your attention grabbing? Worse than the Govt
  
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  March 27, 2021 3:56pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  No wonder our Stats Dept is no longer to be trusted.
  
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  March 27, 2021 4:34pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Delusional
  
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  March 27, 2021 7:59pm
KevO'Brien

Enjoy the USA/Mexico border.
Pics from Senator Cruz:
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1375523168044134406/photo/1
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March 27, 2021 9:47am
- RiP NZ
  
  Batmans Amercia.
  
  Glorious
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:44pm
- doublehappy
  
  I saw on Fox News that Ted Cruz was taking 18 senators down to the border in Texas this weekend. I would hope that there will be some straight-talking in the senate next week after they see what’s happening. Might not get out through the Main Stream Media though.
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:56pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Ted’s just looking for a faster way to get to Cancun.
    
    But seriously … if you see the photos from their trip it likes like a cosplay party. They’re all dressed up like Gravy Seals. In a boat mounting a machine gun.
    
    Meal Team Six.
    
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    March 27, 2021 3:46pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yet to be censored on Youtube, but it will be.
    
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    March 27, 2021 3:57pm
cmm

The motor vehicle industry is crying.

There are worldwide stimulus programmes in place (both cash printing and low interest rates). This pushes up demand for new cars. They should be able to make huge profits this year.

But there have been two recent fires in chip factories (one a few months back and the other last week) which have really knocked back production of some of the chips – especially those used in automotive applications.

And to add insult to injury, the Texas power cuts nobbled some of the chip factories there too.

Modern cars are basically networks on wheels with some having hundreds of computers in them. If you can’t get just one of those chips then you can’t build the car.

Net result is that the car electronic supply chain is hosed. Some factories have stopped making automotive sub-assembles. That impacts the car supply.

Due to the way car certification etc works, it is impossible to substitute alternative chips without multi-year redesigns and recertification.

It is probably going to be the end of the year before this is all resolved.
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March 27, 2021 10:10am
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  The Just In Time delivery system where car companies want parts delivered only days before they need them (to save costs) has worked against them on a number of occasions now.
  
  Also designing in parts that can only be sourced from a single supplier is a bad idea because s**t happens (earthquakes, factory fires, tsunamis, etc.).
  
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  March 27, 2021 10:24am
  - cmm
    
    Electronic parts come in two broad categories:
    
    Jellybean parts – resistors, capacitors, memory and such, which can be substituted most of the time.
    
    Single-source parts such as microcontrollers and CPUs, Very few of these are multi-source. Very few of these can be substituted without having a complete re-design and reverification of the firmware. These are the parts where the real problems are.
    
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    March 27, 2021 3:38pm
    - info@cruzpro.com
      
      Very true but there are microprocessors that are available from multiple sources. Some micros have been around so long that the patents have expired and dozens of different manufacturer’s make them.
      
      It is very possible to create designs without using unique parts. The US military (at least the US navy, with which I am familiar) does not allow their designers to design in parts that are only available from a single manufacturer.
      
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      March 28, 2021 8:15am
- MarkF
  
  The end of the year, I wish! I am already having to place NRNC (No Return No Cancel) orders out for the next 18 months. Try planning that far out.
  
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  March 27, 2021 10:33am
- Inandout
  
  cmm, I have resisted trading my second hand Japanese car in for a new one and now I am convinced to remain with what I have. If it goes well then why invite hassles like you mention?
  
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  March 27, 2021 10:49am
  - doublehappy
    
    Me too; My 22-year-old Toyota is my pride and joy. It has only 1 computer for the fuel injection system, but all the rest of the electric seats, roof, doors, windows, auto door closers etc are individual items. Just about faultless for the 12 or 13 years I have owned it. I maintain it well and I hope it lasts me many more years. It is the most comfortable vehicle I have owned. A 1999 Toyota Regious. It is also very practical, takes full-size building sheets, 7 people in comfort, you can have a picnic in it with the swivel seats and fold-down tables. IF you fold all the seats down you have a double bed. Far in advance for it’s time and no; I don’t want to sell. I forgot electric curtains at the push of a button.
    
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    March 27, 2021 2:09pm
  - cmm
    
    My run-around is well over 25 years and 480,000km old, but there’s still quite a lot of electronics in it – thankfully mainly in less critical stuff like the doors and airconditioner etc.
    
    When supplies run low, the first thing that gets cut is building spares. It is basic economics.
    
    If there is a shortage of a $5 component then which are they going to give up first?
    A) Making it into a board for spares worth $50 of revenue?
    B) Make it into a car worth $30,000 of revenue?
    
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    March 27, 2021 3:43pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  This will heat the 2nd hand market up even more. Better fix the spare dunga up and flick it before it gets brightlined!
  
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  March 27, 2021 11:23am
- Master Mariner
  
  The latest is the blockage of Suez .
  
  This carries a lot of Naptha ( Used in Plastics) via Chemical tankers.
  
  Just goes to show how “fickle” supply chains are. Everything has knock on effect.
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:56pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Naptha? Is that what the Meth manufacturers use? You know, vitamin P
    
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    March 27, 2021 4:02pm
    - Master Mariner
      
      Not too sure spelling Steve, Naptha is used in Plastics, By product of oil distillery.
      Slow internet onboard mate.
      
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      March 27, 2021 5:50pm
Rusty

What is this obsession 3News and now TVNZ news got with the Glorivale church?

If their is strong evidence of sexual abuse then why aren’t the police investigating it?

How many times has 3News over the years featured stories from ex-members of sexual misconduct in this church which never seems to lead to police charges?
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March 27, 2021 10:16am
- mikenmildagain
  
  There is an ongoing police inquiry. Such cults are often difficult to bring to account for their crimes.
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:18pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Bit like those secret ones inside the Labour Party Mike?
    All hushed up and under the carpet
    
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    March 27, 2021 4:04pm
- Master Mariner
  
  Not sure but assuming they might be donors to Nat party like the Bretherans. ?
  
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  March 27, 2021 2:48pm
- MCos
  
  The police most certainly are investigating Gloriavale.
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/124229571/trio-charged-as-investigation-into-alleged-child-abuse-at-gloriavale-continues
  
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  March 27, 2021 3:04pm
Fletch

Former White House physician to both Obama and Trump on Biden’s health –

“This ‘Press Brief’ was EMBARRASSING!” Jackson wrote on Twitter. “Not only for Biden, but for the liberal press corps as well. He struggled to make it through, despite the fact that he followed a strict order of reporters to call on and was reading what appeared to be prepared answers from the podium.”

“Could you imagine what the press would have done if Donald Trump had pulled something like this?” Jackson continued. “Helps when the ‘press’ are your biggest fans! Shameful and Embarrassing!!”

https://twitter.com/RonnyJacksonTX/status/1375184597667954690

“I served as White House physician under THREE Presidents,” Jackson tweeted at the start of the week, just days after Biden fell three times while trying to walk up the steps to Air Force One. “I’ve seen what it takes physically AND mentally to do the job. I can tell you right now that the way Biden is hiding from the public is a MAJOR red flag. Something’s not right!”

Biden, on when he came to the senate “120 years ago”. He then COMPLETELY loses his train of thought. Watch this 1min 30 sec video and tell me the guy is not in serious mental decline.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XzpQ3xMxDs
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March 27, 2021 10:40am
- SB2
  
  Dr Ronny Jackson?
  
  Scathing report finds Rep. Ronny Jackson engaged in ‘inappropriate conduct’ as White House doctor
  Jackson denied the allegations, saying he would never conduct himself in a way that undermines his oath to the country or his constituents.
  
  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/scathing-report-finds-rep-ronny-jackson-engaged-inappropriate-conduct-white-n1259437
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:43pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  And people should listen to Ronny Jackson, degenerate, because?
  
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  March 27, 2021 4:42pm
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Nice Mike straight to the smear .. you’re a true leftie
    
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    March 27, 2021 6:42pm
- MCos
  
  That would be this bloke
  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/scathing-report-finds-rep-ronny-jackson-engaged-inappropriate-conduct-white-n1259437
  
  BTW
  When Trump was the big cheese it seemed every five minutes a doctor would say he was deranged.
  
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  March 27, 2021 5:47pm
Justitia

After three and a half years, are even the Left now tiring of Ardern’s b/s?:http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2021/03/her-house-with-apologies-to-crosby.html
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March 27, 2021 10:54am
- SB2
  
  Justitia, I take it Chris Trotter lives the high life as a statehouse tenant?t
  
  https://nzhistory.govt.nz/keyword/state-house
  
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  March 27, 2021 2:02pm
Maggie Pie

‘MENG FOON READS COMICS’

Pass it on 😀 😀 😀
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March 27, 2021 10:54am
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Batman?
  
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  March 27, 2021 11:00am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Elmer Fudd?
  
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  March 27, 2021 11:22am
- geoff3012
  
  Nah.
  
  Just looks at the pictures.
  
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  March 27, 2021 12:16pm
SB2

I see Dominion Voting machines is suing Fox News for promoting baseless claims of rigging in the last presidential elections.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/03/26/dominion-voting-sues-fox-news-1-6-b-over-2020-election-claims/7010134002/

We can only wish them well in their endeavors.

PS I hope Dominion includes Sidney Powel and Rudy Giuliani in a class action,
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March 27, 2021 11:01am
- Paulus
  
  Understood there was nothing wrong with the Presidential Counting Vote machines – it is and was the people operating them that created some interesting results and are very suspect in many cases.
  Rorts coming out will will not change the results.
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:42pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Aaahhh, let’s block the windows so people who should see the counting are left outside and can not see the skullduggery
    
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    March 27, 2021 4:07pm
- Fletch
  
  Hypocrites who are guilty as sin.
  
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  March 27, 2021 2:29pm
- virtualmark
  
  It’s going to be fascinating to see Fox’s defence.
  
  They’ve been sued several times over things Hannity, Carlson and others have said. Their consistent response is that their audience should know that those shows aren’t “news”.
  
  In truth Fox News is like Big Tobacco. They know they’re lying. They know they’re selling something that kills. But there’s so much money in it that they can buy politicians to protect their interests and actively recruit new customers. I don’t like to speak ill of people but the world will be a better place when Rupert is gone.
  
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  March 27, 2021 3:50pm
lilman

Just read a piece on stuff about a non binary adolescent, lol if that’s not an example of a well adjusted young kiwi I don’t know what is.
What a sad reflection of our progress as a nation.
Lol,piss weak,he would have been a true hero in WW2.
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March 27, 2021 11:02am
JibberJabber

The covid test you can do yourself…
https://twitter.com/ELS2359/status/1375503132516474880

Yo Steffy, now that you’ve had the vaccine you can stop doing it, or not, your choice…
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March 27, 2021 11:03am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  That is why it is slow, one in one place, one on the keyboard
  
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  March 27, 2021 4:10pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

What the Biden admin does not want you to see. Media blackout.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiLDiP6kKxQ
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March 27, 2021 11:35am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  A Country without borders is not a Country
  
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  March 27, 2021 11:35am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Gonna ad to that. What if there was a bridge between Oz and NZ, and Jaspinda and Grunt kept on promising free shit?
    Where the fuck would the imports live? we can’t even house the refugees?
    
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    March 27, 2021 4:12pm
- Inandout
  
  Steve, the Dem voters are having severe buyer’s remorse and Biden lies (or is told to) like a flatfish. Thank God for alternate media.
  
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  March 27, 2021 3:48pm
JimBobJoe

What happens when the support money dries up completely and people stat feeling they need to hold on to cash? I note a recent article said eftpos transaction volumes where down as well…..
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/covid-19-coronavirus-1000-fewer-businesses-since-level-4-lockdown-stats-nz/II3FY5FU7YBC54JYLROZGX2NCY/

We may be starting to see the impact of the suicidal lockdown strategy adopted by Labour. All that cashflow from shutted tourism spending must bite eventually surely?
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March 27, 2021 11:42am
Maggie Pie

Aljazeera reporting at its narrowest point the Suez Canal is 300m wide.

As my partner just said, “You’d have to wonder what else Ferdinand de Lesseps might have f*ucked up”
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March 27, 2021 11:44am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Well, his attempt to build the Panama Canal failed.
  
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  March 27, 2021 12:19pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    A man, a plan, a canal, Panama !
    
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    March 27, 2021 1:21pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Madam, I’m Adam.
      
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      March 27, 2021 3:53pm
- TWEEDSE
  
  A week after the opening of the Suez Canal, Ferdinand married his second wife.
  
  Obviously his mind was elsewhere than getting the canal width right.
  
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  March 27, 2021 12:41pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    Well, to be quite fair, 300 metres was probably absolutely enough when it was built, and for many year s after. This stranded vessel is 400 metres long, and weighs over 200,000 tonnes; one of the 5 largest container ships in operation.
    
    Cause is said to be high winds pushing it off course (it must have a hell of a windage with that height) which then turned to a emergency with a power failure – maybe because of the drastic action the captain/pilot was taking to correct the course ?
    
    Unloading it would be hard, I think the heaviest helicopter load is around 22 tonnes by a Russian Mil MI 26. The Super Stallion US helicopter can do 15 tonnes. And with 40 foot containers weighing up to 29 tonne (3.75 T empty) it’s likely that most containers would NOT be able to be lifted off.
    
    I also wonder if the reason that they are not using powerful water jets to scour the sand/mud out from under the bow is that this would silt up the main channel, as that otherwise would seem to be the obvious way to clear the obstructions.
    
    Anyone know any more about what they’re trying ?
    
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    March 27, 2021 1:31pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      My partner has a vested interest in this disaster.
      He was saying the front bit is hard aground and they will need to tow it from the back. Word at the Viaduct is that they may need to remove something like 30,ooo cubic meters of sand from the canal.
      More to come…..
      
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      March 27, 2021 3:35pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  The canal has been widened several times and now is two way in parts.
  
  I have predicted for years that this was a situation waiting to happen. I am surprised it has taken this long. All it needs now is someone to block the Singapore Strait and/or the Panama Canal and we are in le merde
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:33pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Can’t ships sail across the melted Arctic now?
    
    https://www.adn.com/arctic/article/expert-predicts-ice-free-arctic-2020-same-day-un-releases-climate-report/2014/11/02/
    
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    March 27, 2021 4:14pm
    - SB2
      
      MW , Science Daily puts it at 2035,
      
      https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/08/200810113216.htm
      
      So relax for now.
      
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      March 27, 2021 5:51pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Yes, SB2
        
        and another expert puts it at 2050
        https://climate.esa.int/en/projects/sea-ice/news/simulations-suggest-ice-free-arctic-summers-2050/
        
        But look…
        here’s another expert who put an ice-free Arctic at 2013
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7139797.stm
        oh woops…
        Maybe Al Gore wasn’t an expert.
        https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/arctic-ice-cap-grows-60-percent/
        
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        March 27, 2021 7:47pm
      - SB2
        
        MW, from your BBC 2007 link,
        
        Their latest modeling studies indicate northern polar waters could be ice-free in summers within just 5-6 years.
        
        Note ” could -be”!
        
        And your last link , another”r could be” !
        
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        March 27, 2021 7:55pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        “could be, could be.”..
        
        BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS SETTLED SCIENCE
        
        Isn’t that the reason you have been stalking and harassing me for years on this blog?
        
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        March 27, 2021 8:27pm
- JibberJabber
  
  Far Canal!
  
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  March 27, 2021 4:50pm
kevn

Looking at the ship, clearly he couldn’t see where he was going. Can you spot the wheelhouse?
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March 27, 2021 11:48am
- kowtow
  
  I presume there’s local pilots on board who know the local waters ie “Please steer in a straight line ”
  
  or to use the fashionable idiom “you only had one job”.
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:21pm
Gulag1917

Ferdinand de Lesseps as well as most other people could not have foreseen the growth in size of ships. For example passenger steamers arriving in New York from Europe had an increase in size of 454% from 1873 to 1913.
No doubt an accident like this will happen again and maybe a bank could be built on both sides of the canal to deflect the wind.
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March 27, 2021 12:32pm
- kevn
  
  @Gulag… Make the canal bigger/wider? Ask captains not to be so flamboyant with entry manoeuvers. No need. Focus.
  Waiting to hear from our Master Mariner.
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:28pm
  - Paulie_
    
    Evidently the accident happened just past a section that had recently been widened.
    
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    March 28, 2021 3:17am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Build a wall??
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:49pm
- kowtow
  
  If wind was the problem they’d be colliding all the time.
  
  Sounds a bit of a Bidenesque excuse to me……
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:58pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I think the Pilot was thinking he was in a Mini, and not a Peterbilt. Out of depth explained.
    Mariner guy knows more
    
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    March 27, 2021 5:08pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VspwwOdq1P4

HR1 is DOA.

The senate won’t pass the Dems legalized election fraud. A more pinpoint law
might make it. Dems want to kill democracy to save it. Senators Sinema, and Manchin are
in the NPCs sights.
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March 27, 2021 12:39pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w37uymKOeo8

Surprise! Courts Are Looking At The 2020 Election.

Think the 2020 Election investigation is over? Well this will surprise you. [Legal action
can take a while. Who knew?]
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March 27, 2021 12:40pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  No way was that Election rigged by the Democrats //
  Chickens now coming home to roost
  
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  March 27, 2021 1:47pm
- SB2
  
  The Kraken awakes Part 2.
  
  https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/12/08/how-sidney-powells-kraken-pushed-by-qanon-went-from-cable-news-to-trump-mainstream/?sh=611a4baf609d
  
  Sidney Powell leading the charge?
  
  LOL
  
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  March 27, 2021 5:55pm
Maggie Pie

A bestie tweets from the Wellington Airport…… 🙁

https://twitter.com/chamfy/status/1375319393278693376
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March 27, 2021 1:02pm
fightingtemeraire

The thoughts of Chairman Ardern would take one blank side of A3
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March 27, 2021 1:30pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

https://2020conservative.com/cnn-has-been-caught-staging-a-border-crossing-video/?
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March 27, 2021 1:43pm
kevn

Timber shortage now… Makes the (cindy said so) 100,000 house builds seem super unlikely to happen.
Whakatane Board Mills to close. Reconfigure back to sawn timber? Please.
NZ being trashed while cindy does school visits and looks at a trainset.
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March 27, 2021 2:29pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Neighbour just had to buy $4000 of decking timber from Bunnings. Not available from the normal suppliers. We only need to ask ONE person why.
  Fuck
  
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  March 27, 2021 4:17pm
  - kevn
    
    @SteveO… Bunnings: I hope he checked each stick. Some of the quality is very poor. Knots aplenty and twist/warping. Some unusable.
    
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    March 27, 2021 7:52pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING….. (USA)

An investigation is underway to find who leaked a copy of ‘George Floyds’ toxicology report from the Hennepin County Medical Examiner, which showed George had fatal levels of both methamphetamine and fentanyl in his body at the time of his death.

I wonder if the jury will be allowed to see it?
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March 27, 2021 2:36pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, Crystal Lives Matter.
  
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  March 27, 2021 3:58pm
- MCos
  
  The toxicology report was released soon after his death.
  Here’s an interesting article. The comments are even more interesting.
  The author now works in the Wellington Hospital if you want to ring to clarify so points.
  https://www.medpagetoday.com/blogs/working-stiff/86913
  
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  March 27, 2021 4:02pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Racist white privileged guy did that. The fact that Floyd may have died is not important. The jury will look at the video.
  
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  March 27, 2021 4:21pm
  - sooty
    
    Dead man walking!
    
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    March 27, 2021 10:00pm
Maggy Wassilieff

It might not be the best time to start a new build or an add-on..

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/124676884/carter-holt-harvey-supply-shakeup-could-change-the-future-of-housing-in-new-zealand-federation-says
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March 27, 2021 3:07pm
Master Mariner

My understanding is if not refloated at HW ( High water spring tides) on Sunday then its going to be there a hell of a long time.

Master still in command
“Liability:Pursuant to the Egyptian Maritime Code No. 8 of 1990 (Art. 279) as well as rulings of the Supreme Court in Egypt, the responsibility for pilotage operation in port and in the Suez Canal lies entirely with the Master of the guided vessel even in case of the pilots error.”

Looks like its High and dry , Some estimating 1/3 of length is aground. ie 130+ m. If thats the case then its not going to come off easy.

Jack 5 asked, What will be the flow on effects for NZ?

Just like COVID, Longer delays in Imports, Severe containers shortage and increased freight rates.
In a nut shell everyone will blame this for increased costs, Much the same as everyone blames Covid.
Its going to be winter in Stn Hemishere and rounding the Cape of Good Hope will be testing at the best of times.

From an Insurance perspective this will increase every vessel owners P& I premiums, ( Basically shared Insurance) and for Egyptian Government , this is its biggest cash cow. Highest income for the country.

More mayhem for Europes factories and arrival of goods.
On another note Jack 5, you asked about containerships boxes being lost. its been announced a enquiry will be launched and my previous answers will be found to be close to the mark on kiwiblog reply.
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March 27, 2021 3:30pm
- Master Mariner
  
  Its the Panama canal Pilots that are responsible and take over command.
  Knew one did but wasnt sure which one.
  
  PANAMA (THE PANAMA CANAL)
  Pilotage through the Panama Canal is compulsory and carried out exclusively by Panama Canal Commission pilots (about 270 pilots). Unlike most ports of the world, Canal pilots do not act in an advisory capacity but take command over the vessel.
  
  Liability:It is possible to hold the Panama Canal Commission liable for accidents which occur during Canal transit and which can be attributed to actions of Canal pilots in command of the vessel.
  
  Interesting fact for anyone interested. Its the only place in the world whereby Pilot is in command and not the Master.
  
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  March 27, 2021 4:15pm
KevO'Brien

Still another 5 days to April. What further trouble will this gobblement be in by then?
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March 27, 2021 4:55pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Who cares?
  It’s Passover and Holi and then its Easter Bunny time and Hot Cross Buns and then it will be Ramadan.
  
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  March 27, 2021 5:13pm
  - sooty
    
    Don’t forget the ANZAC days we are not allowed to celebrate!
    
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    March 27, 2021 9:50pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Parliament is back April 6th. They have all fucked off – and the media with them.
  Now media stories will be about what is on TV1, self ads ffs
  
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  March 27, 2021 5:13pm
  - sooty
    
    Hilarys bedhead hair and other important things!
    
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    March 27, 2021 9:49pm
SB2

A big protest today in downtown Auckland against Anti-Asian sentiment in NZ.

Remember some of you here on KB Chinese are not viruses.!

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/03/photos-show-anger-and-outrage-at-auckland-march-against-asian-hate.html
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March 27, 2021 6:08pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Lets hope this Government takes violence against our Asian shop owners seriously and starts catching some of the offenders.
  
  https://www.babushahi.com/full-news.php?id=66094
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300084930/dairy-owners-fearful-after-string-of-robberies-demands-higher-police-presence-at-stores
  
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  March 27, 2021 8:04pm
  - sooty
    
    Or allow the shopkeeper to fight back!
    
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    March 27, 2021 9:47pm
Sacha

I think the government has managed to alienate a fair segment of the rural community.
I went in too the local Ag store this morning, and there was a lively conversation being held between 6 local blokes. When someone told how he couldn’t get workers, and that tradies were like hens teeth, and someone else can’t find the bits he needs for his watering system, and it’s all a b****y disgrace, there was general agreement – and people left in disgust. Don’t talk to THEM about the government.
And this afternoon, over the back fence my neighbour had a tale to tell about export prices – if only he could get his product out of the country.
My own inclination is to take all my money out of the bank and hide it under the mattress.
And no covid vac for me!
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March 27, 2021 7:01pm
Maggie Pie

FACTOID

The boat stuck sideways in the Suez Canal is Japanese owned and Panamanian registered.

It’s crew of 25 are all Indian nationals.

Anyone see a pattern forming here?
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March 27, 2021 9:02pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  And in further news (CNN)…..The US Navy are to send an assessment team to assist with the stuck container ship.
  
  – White ppl! Help us!! 😀
  
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  March 27, 2021 9:21pm
  - MCos
    
    40% of the US military are not white
    
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    March 27, 2021 10:00pm
- Paulie_
  
  Obvious case of White Privilege
  
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