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Happychappy

In a search for truth from this Government is hard to get from any Ministry let alone those that hold the Cabinet folders on them.
This Government has hidden facts on the Aluminium Smelter, the Amazon Film Deal , Covid- 19 the Testing and safty of border workers, State Housing , Housing Crisis in General , Electricity and fuel which we could go on and on with no help from a QIA system that is broken and outdated with no chance of getting
the truth in the time needed.
We need answers not lies to hold our Governments to account and the media in this country are a bloody disgrace unless there is something in it for them.
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April 17, 2021 8:00am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Well, they’ll remember the ridicule the last Labour Govt received when the facts of the NZR purchase from Toll were made public. Don’t want to risk that again.
  
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  April 17, 2021 9:53am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Nobody is interested. So don’t make any noise.
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:19am
Benedict Yu

Off to leave my troubles behind to walk to Franz Josef glacier. Very heavy rain on the drive here yesterday but lovely fine day today on the West Coast.

Have a good day ?
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April 17, 2021 8:01am
- softail 1450
  
  Benedict Yu, take good walking shoes its becoming a longer walk every year ,Last time we went it had withdrawn 200 meters in about 2 years .
  Lets hope it stars coming back soon or you’ll need a helicopter to see it.
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:48am
Maggy Wassilieff

Auckland wouldn’t have needed to be placed in Lockdown in February if folks had been analysing the Covid-testing register.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/04/covid-19-govt-s-failure-to-analyse-border-worker-testing-data-until-two-weeks-ago-worrying-incompetent-chris-bishop.html
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April 17, 2021 8:02am
- Master Mariner
  
  Lockdown is the new word for incompitence.
  
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  April 17, 2021 9:30am
  - Nickc2
    
    Remind me again what such incompetence cost. //
    
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    April 17, 2021 10:05am
    - kowtow
      
      The final bill will literally be years away in calculating.
      
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      April 17, 2021 12:40pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Aucklanders were very pleased with the lockdown. So why is Bishop jumping up and down?
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:21am
  - Bobba Fret
    
    I’m an Aucklander, and I wasn’t pleased with it.
    
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    April 17, 2021 9:02pm
Souvlaki

Read this below article from Muriel Newman & disseminate widely!
Come on National, get off your lazy fat arses!
https://www.nzcpr.com/defending-our-democracy/
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April 17, 2021 8:02am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Well you need a big crane bro. They know very well, 2029 is their realistic chance.
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:22am
- BAM
  
  Key signed us up to it.
  
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  April 17, 2021 12:23pm
  - Souvlaki
    
    Pretty bloody depressing….he obviously didn’t read it prior….even the Clarken Fuhrer was cunning enough not to drop NZ in it in such an egregious maneer !
    
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    April 17, 2021 5:40pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Are our border security staff wearing decent masks?
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/official-mask-ignorance-puts-border-staff-at-risk
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April 17, 2021 8:06am
- Apropos of the Wet Snow
  
  “At risk” of what exactly? The statistics tell us that the vast majority of us have only a slim chance of any adverse effects from Covid, and the case study provided by Florida’s mid-pack performance (without lockdowns or mask mandates) confirms that talk of NZ’s low vaccination numbers and how useless Labour are in this regard misses the point entirely.
  
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  April 17, 2021 8:19am
- krazykiwi
  
  Stopping exhaled or inhaled aerosol-bourne pathogens with a mask is like trying to stop the Waikato river with a sieve. Utterly pointless.
  
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  April 17, 2021 8:28am
  - cmm
    
    A sieve might do it. More like trying to stop the Waikato with a deer fence.
    
    Pointless from a biological perspective, beneficial from a PR perspective.
    
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    April 17, 2021 9:04am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Yep, the best scientific evidence (not “feelz”, but evidence) is that Covid-19, and for that matter SARS, are primarily carried and spread through very fine aerosols, and infection via larger droplets is a very minor occurrence. This is in fact very similar to how Measles spreads.
      
      Against such dispersal, cloth masks are at best worthless, and at worst a source of additional contamination. Again, this is known for measles, masks are ineffective.
      
      What does seem to matter is ventilation, infection outdoors is very rare (not positively implicated in any super spreading events, not ruled out in around 5%).
      
      So either we equip the frontline workers with at worst N95 style masks or better, positive pressure self contained systems, or we don’t bother.
      
      Cloth masks are theatre, nothing more than theatre; and their primary use is virtue signalling and repressive.
      
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      April 17, 2021 11:05am
      - Albert_Ross
        
        Link to an example of this best scientific evidence please?
        
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        April 17, 2021 1:54pm
  - Lance
    
    The SCIENCE of mask wearing is that if someone sneezes or coughs the spread distance it greatly reduced.
    But, yes, it makes little difference for inhalation.
    
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    April 17, 2021 9:51am
mikenmildagain

Happy World Hemophilia Day!
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April 17, 2021 8:07am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Do you know the meaning and it’s significance in world affairs?
  Schoolboy.
  
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  April 17, 2021 9:54am
  - Ruahine
    
    Many if not most of the European Royal Families were riddled with it. Queen Victoria and procreating with your cousin was to blame.
    
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    April 17, 2021 12:01pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Do you know how to use apostrophes?
    
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    April 17, 2021 2:18pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Mostly, although the odd one escapes through my happy fingers.
      
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      April 17, 2021 4:03pm
JibberJabber

Cactus Kate telling it like it is,

Poto’s Popo Letting Gangs Now Shoot Up Viaduct Hotels

Posted: 15 Apr 2021 07:03 AM PDT

The Herald understands members of the Head Hunters opened fire after coming across members of the Mongols in the Sofitel, sparking an armed police callout, in an act of violence which police suspect could be retribution for the Mongols suspected of opening fire on the Head Hunters gang pad early Sunday morning.

Police Minister Poto Williams said it was also her understanding that the incident at the hotel was linked to a feud between the Mongols and the Head Hunters gangs.

The spin is that these evil 501’s are upsetting everything in New Zealand and before they arrived our lads were a bunch of nice misunderstood choirboys. Which is of course bullshit. The traditional New Zealand gangs do not like the competition in terrorising the public with their patches and turf, and have orchestrated a hate campaign against the 501 gangs. All whom right-minded New Zealanders think are just as scum as the traditional New Zealand gangs.

The reality is Poto Williams is the softest token trifecta of a Police Minister in New Zealand’s history. A joke. A woke joke of a Commissioner and no actual intent whatsoever of going after any of the real bad guys.

This is not the first gang related incident at the Viaduct.

The simple fact they are allowed to wander around the area is a disgrace, no doubt intimidating in their patches and swagger. Showing off their latest purchases that should be collected under Proceeds of Crime legislation.

Fortunately the New Zealand silent majority of nice white middle class newly minted Jacinda voters will have conniptions if this continues. More than any other issue. New Zealanders do not like feeling unsafe. Stray bullets from gangland warfare is what the Yanks do, not the Team of 5 million.

The optics are awful for middle New Zealand.

Guns taken off law abiding New Zealanders but a Polynesian Police Minister, a large Maori representation in Cabinet, and ethnic gangs allowed to run amok into nice areas where nice New Zealanders hang out doing nice things and eating and drinking nicely. That is not what Labour supporters voted for. They voted for the thugs to stay where they should – in their state housing ghettos, committing crime against one and another.

As I have previously blogged back in December:

Maybe Poto can saddle up and visit all those nice, kind gangs and ask them to hand in their guns as the government did to law abiding New Zealanders when one lone random Australian came over to New Zealand and shot up a mosque?

No mention of gangs here though.

New Zealand’s first Polynesian Police Minister is going to have to face up very quickly to middle-class wrath from the masses if northern parts of Auckland and Queenstown become stomping grounds for gangsters to openly socialise at and bring with them their BFG’s, blunts, bitches, baby Mamma’s and beans.

Sounds like she is achieving nothing to date other than increasing the odds of a bit of Pb landing in your next latte or chardonnay.

Forget about Venezuela, Ardern and Little are
trying to turn us into the Haiti of the Sth Pacific and the cretinous Greens want us to stop calling them “Gangs” and call them Community groups…JFC ?
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April 17, 2021 8:15am
- KevO'Brien
  
  They call themselves “Gangs”.
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:19am
  - sooty
    
    Just a normal day in the street then?
    Carrying guns 24hrs everyday is the new normal for these gangs!
    I presume the maori gangs carry guns as well, just in case they meet the bikies or each other!
    They must be better armed then the poolice, as they ain’t doing anything about it!
    Maybe they are having trouble geting the woke poolice out of the station?
    
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    April 17, 2021 11:32am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  “Fortunately the New Zealand silent majority of nice white middle class newly minted Jacinda voters will have conniptions if this continues.” – Sorry bro, they are not called Sheeple without a reason. These voters will keep her in power until Cindy wants to retire. Sheeple of Taranaki are a great example. They voted Labour big time. Traitors.
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:25am
- peterwn
  
  Made me wonder whether Sofitel had been taken over for managed isolation, but no, they are taking bookings (>$400 per night).
  Either hotel rooms are scarce as hens teeth so gangs have to stay there or gangs are so flushed with money that they might as well spend up on luxury accommodation before the cops bust them and take their money, Harley Davidsons, etc. Not sure if the rooms are suitable for P labs, motels and serviced apartments would be better.
  So my image that Sofitels are high class five star hotels which I would be uncomfortable staying at is shattered (I generally use two star hotels the odd times I need one).
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:31am
  - Sacha
    
    In another 20 years the gangs will be yearning for respectability. They will want to spend their ill-gotten fortunes on things that will show that they really are nice people after all. Like the Mafia.
    We will just have to wait and keep out of their way while they get through this phase of their social development.
    
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    April 17, 2021 2:26pm
- softail 1450
  
  JibberJabber ,I’m unsure if Poto is fluent in Pacifica speak but holy crap she’s incapable of getting her points across in English, she always sounds like a school mrs telling a class of 6 year old the story of Humpty Dumpty.
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:55am
  - peterwn
    
    Which is very appropriate since Humpty Dumpty (‘a word means what I say it means’) will be the principal arbiter of who goes to prison for three years for inappropriate speech.
    
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    April 17, 2021 12:30pm
- Philview
  
  Jibber, you are right about spin. As David commented recently 20% of the prison population has been released fuelling this activity. The media don’t report the prison release and protect the Government by pointing the finger at Australia.
  
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  April 17, 2021 1:55pm
kowtow

Now that the badly misunderstood , genuinely nice guys when you really get to know them , gangsters ( I note the Ferald insists on calling them ‘Motorcycle clubs’) have moved their seriously misunderstood antics out of the slummy suburbs and into down town where they scare the horses , Goff has come out very strongly , saying they are bad people who deal in death and should be seriously dealt with …….

……..given his verrrrry loooong history at the centre of power in Cabinet and as an MP , it would be interesting if the Media pardy would be prepared to analyse his stance on all things policy wise in relation to crime and punishment ……..

or do they only reserve scrutiny to foreign leaders they don’t like ?

PS. Would the perpetually offended on behalf of others please also call out said misunderstood lads for culturally appropriating their ‘club’ names from Asia and other minority groups………
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April 17, 2021 8:15am
- Loddenthinks
  
  When Goff refused to recommend a pardon for Peter Ellis who was wrongly convicted of crimes that never even happened, he lost all credibility on legal matters.
  
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  April 17, 2021 9:57am
  - sooty
    
    He lost all credibility turning up to shovel the oil shit from the Rena in $2,000 handstitched italian leather shoes as well!
    
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    April 17, 2021 11:37am
    - GazzaW
      
      His handling of the Dazza Hughes debacle at Anette King’s house did him no good either. Zero credibility. Just another trough licker.
      
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      April 17, 2021 12:25pm
    - Nickc2
      
      IMO, he never had any credibility and never will.
      
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      April 17, 2021 9:29pm
  - Manu-Rau
    
    He lost credibility with me when he tried to legalise incest and lower the age of consent to 12.
    
    One. Seriously. Sick. Puppy.
    
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    April 17, 2021 2:52pm
Ruahine

All these cockups at MIQ do however give Ardern the opportunity to go on TV and accuse people doing their jobs of lying. It is an old trick of deflecting blame to other people.
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April 17, 2021 8:22am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Expert at deflection
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:08am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Labour doesn’t give a stuff about lowly paid immigrant workers… they are too busy making deals with their rich mates.
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/440587/government-to-give-amazon-over-100m-boost-for-lord-of-the-rings-filming
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:11am
- kowtow
  
  It’s not very kind tho’ is it , getting angry and calling people liars ……
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:37am
- Happychappy
  
  But her lying , deciet and fraudulent promises over the last three and a half years have not got the press coverage from the insinuations she has accused first the KFC lass and now the security guard of.
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:52am
krazykiwi

The flying public are obviously getting sick of the mask (aka compliance muzzle) requirement. AirNZ mask script has been beefed up ridiculously cover every angle of compliance. It sounds like a laboriously constructed legal clause.

AirNZ, I challenge you thus: If you truly believe masks are essential for safety, and you’re committed to safety – right? … then announce that you’re ceasing all drink/snack service so that mask can remain on throughout the flight. Show us your resolve, or campaign against this pathetically pointless requirement. I expect you’ll demonstrate weakness by doing neither.
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April 17, 2021 8:24am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Do you mean that it’s okay to take your mask off when food and beverages are served on the flight?
  
  Kind of makes a mockery of wearing a mask in the first place.
  
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  April 17, 2021 8:35am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Why, yes it is.
    
    It’s a tough choice though. Terrible coffee & a soft biscuit vs a ridiculous mask.
    
    What to do, what to do.
    
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    April 17, 2021 9:56am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Yes, it’s apparently Ok. There is excruciating guidance on fitting, not touching the front of the mask, and replacing it after snacks. I made my cup of water last 30 minutes yesterday 🙂
    
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    April 17, 2021 10:15am
- Greg Ettridge
  
  you are spot on.
  The airlines are just like the health gurus and leaders, there is no scientific basis on many of these decisions.
  They cherry pick the rules but they ignore the science.
  You can sit for half or most of the flight sipping there seriously bad expensive coffee.
  I wonder if they can ban you for drinking coffee slowly, or maybe fine you.
  the US now have 2 year olds wearing masks, its a race to see who can outdo the others crazy laws.
  Go figure.
  
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  April 17, 2021 9:10am
- sabre
  
  Air NZ probably has no choice as they are effectively muzzled by the government and fast becoming the socialists personal toy
  
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  April 17, 2021 9:15am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Air NZ is genderless.
    
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    April 17, 2021 10:26am
  - kowtow
    
    They’ve been sent a nasty “expectations” letter by the share holding minister .
    
    That’s a bigly story in the business sector , the people who pay the bills and make the real economy run , but sadly it’s not a bigly thingy for the swing voter / Cindy Teddy Bear Cultists who through the universal franchise get to decide who and how the country runs .
    
    Very frightening.
    
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    April 17, 2021 10:40am
  - sooty
    
    So cindy won’t need her private jet in future!
    
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    April 17, 2021 11:39am
- The Other Enoch
  
  You are absolutely right. Tell me this. Why is it so imperative that we put masks on before we enter the airbridge when we have all been standing cheek by jowl in a long line to enter the airbridge, when we have been sitting closely in the lounge, and when we need to take the mask off to drink or eat what the Air NZ flight crew dish up during the flight?
  
  Further, if I am not eating or drinking and sitting between two who are and I remove my mask, why am I threatened with prosecution for not wearing my mask.
  
  I wrote to Air NZ to point out the incongruity of their position. That was in January. I am yet to receive a reply.
  
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  April 17, 2021 9:29am
  - Nickc2
    
    Most aircraft filter and change their internal breathable air 12 to 15 times an hour.
    https://www.travelandleisure.com/airlines-airports/how-airplane-cabin-air-works
    Far more efficient than a snotty wet rag mask I would have thought.
    
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    April 17, 2021 9:54am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    People don’t actually need to eat or drink during a flight, It’s only 90 minutes max flor flights in NZ.
    
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    April 17, 2021 11:49am
- Chuck Bird
  
  The same should apply for the Hamilton to Auckland train.
  
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  April 17, 2021 9:33am
  - kowtow
    
    No hosts on board for the virus to infect …….
    
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    April 17, 2021 10:42am
- Close Hen Counters
  
  Ain’t that the truth – it is just mindless virtue signalling bullshit. The rooster and I were driving behind a vehicle owned by The Warehouse Group this morning – an e vehicle by hyuandai no less. Touting the zero emissions mantra while their many stores are full of cheap plastic crap shipped/flown into our country on ships/planes fuelled by lettuce? I don’t think so
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:51am
Surely Knott

12 NZers in Canada (naval families) have caught the very deadly Rona virus. Luckily all 12 with this very deadly disease had only minor symptoms and are recovering.
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April 17, 2021 8:31am
RiP NZ

Selective citing of Twitter terms of service – misinformation is totally cool if it supports your narrative.
https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1383039093718716425
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April 17, 2021 8:33am
Maggy Wassilieff

Our MIQ omnishambles comes at a cost.

https://sciblogs.co.nz/the-dismal-science/2021/04/15/the-cost-of-a-rolling-omnishambles/
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April 17, 2021 8:42am
- MCos
  
  There’s a lot I’d agree with in that article.
  However.
  With regards to the worker ‘not bothering to comply with testing requirements’, I don’t agree.
  He says the system is at fault. Surely the worker must take some responsibility to ensure he complies with what is a requirement of the job and his superior should be checking to ensure he is complying?
  Maybe if money was withheld from the security company every time they failed to meet their obligations it might concentrate their minds.
  I worked for a company that was penalized financially if it made a cock up resulting in a cost to the customer. Everything was double checked to avoid this happening.
  
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  April 17, 2021 9:19am
Vory v zakone

WARNING

‘Ladies and gentlemen, I have some bad but rather obvious news. Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. is a jadrool, as some of my more colorful downtown friends would say. And he’s your President. He’s out of his league and out of his mind. Pumped up with his specially concocted Adderall and vitamin go-go juice cocktail before any “speaking engagements,” this senescent dotard shuffles to the mic wearing multiple layers of face diapers to hide the slack jaw and drool. Jadrool drool. This coot, hobbled by decrepitude and years of being handcuffed to a radiator in an undisclosed root cellar. His handler and enabler and jailer uxor, Doctor (what a laugh) Jill Biden, slaps him a few times, splashes some ice water on his paper-thin mug and watches him wince as the Delaware Dr. Nick hits him in the fallen buttocks with a blast of a witches brew of Joey’s little helper just to get him over the moment. America watches in horror as he stumbles thrice up a stairway, the victim of a gale force zephyr that only targets him. (The act of Russians, most probably.)

But let us harken back to Jack Reacher, who once admonished a team of hooligans about to rough him up before he beat them senseless, “Remember, you wanted this.” And to my Demo friends, who now must be wondering how this ever got out of hand to this point: Remember, you wanted this. You were the ones who hated Trump to the point of incomprehensible no return. You voted for this guy and his cackling harridan, the chortling termagant, Carmelita Harris. You desired this. You should be happy.

But they’re not. This is voter’s remorse like you cannot conceive. Nor can they but will very shortly.’
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April 17, 2021 8:43am
- Mike
  
  I can’t help but chuckle when I read things like this. The people who write this stuff are almost always adoring fans of the previous president.
  
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  April 17, 2021 11:33am
  - Inandout
    
    Mike, you surely have to find the ‘pass the border ball’ from Biden to Harris and then back again amusing. Neither wants to take blame for the absolute chaos at the Mexican border and it shows why Biden is treated by foreign leaders with disdain. The man is a bloody idiot to start with and a dementia case to finish.
    
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    April 17, 2021 12:39pm
- Inandout
  
  Vvz, I am waiting for some remorse from our resident TDS liberals but it does not appear. I recall the December headlines along the lines of ‘FGS Biden was elected’ or some such. Either buyer remorse or buyer fooled.
  
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  April 17, 2021 11:41am
The Housekeeper

It is ridiculous krazykiwi, you sit amongst your fellow passengers in the concourse without masks, no distancing at all, but suddenly you need a mask to board the plane? During the 45 min flight from ChCh to Wgtn you are first served water, mask off, then tea, coffee and snack, mask off again and finally a lolly, mask up but not off completely. If you took your time over each you may only wear your mask for 10 mins of the flight. You couldn’t make this shit up.
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April 17, 2021 8:44am
- krazykiwi
  
  On my flight yesterday, the officious little prat who’d managed to secure a cabin attendant role made three PA announcements about maintaining physical distancing ‘wherever possible’. My flight had 160 passengers and four empty seats.
  
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  April 17, 2021 2:04pm
Paulus

I am a very old white male New Zealander for over half a century but I am getting very tired of being told that I must consider my wellness and that I must also do the same for all others.
What is work life balance ?
I worked very hard for 50 years to give my family the support that they received- gratefully I am told regularly.
Today’s Herald tells that I must consider the wellbeing of all the others – it appears that these experts on life are young well educated middle class women who would not be in their pontificating best without what we oldies achieved of hard work – life balance was not available – hard work with tiring long hours sometimes for little reward – not as expected now.
I can only wish them well for as they get older they will actually find that whilst they can survive in Remmers with their cross cars many New Zealanders appears to be sliding rapidly into actual poverty.
I hope their work life balances succeed – pity they never studied History at University.
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April 17, 2021 8:50am
- Tall Man
  
  As I said the other day, people haven’t quite figured out that we baby boomers actually control the bulk of the wealth in NZ.
  
  It’s time we flexed our finacial muscle and show these tossers that “cancel culture” is nothing compared with a concerted “fiscal fuck you” …..
  
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  April 17, 2021 9:57am
lazza

Based on the evidence of this latest cluster ommi screw up, the case that we are now suffering under the most incompetent government in living memory… is conclusive!
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April 17, 2021 8:50am
Fletch

Want to know where all the donations to BLM are going? Black Lives Matter co-founder and self-confessed Marxist Patrisse Khan-Cullors has bought at least 4 properties in the U.S worth millions of dollars. And Facebook has banned the New York Post report on the matter from being posted on its platform.

https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/inside-blm-co-founder-patrisse-khan-cullors-real-estate-buying-binge/

https://nationalfile.com/breaking-facebook-blocks-new-york-post-story-about-blm-founder-spending-millions-on-luxury-homes/

I thought Marxists didn’t believe in capitalism? And Facebook has learned nothing from last year. Big tech are only for free speech when it is speech that suits them.
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April 17, 2021 8:58am
- KevO'Brien
  
  The top Marxists exist for capitalism. They know if useful idiots deliver a population to them to control there’s money in it. They get the property and the rents, the useful idiots get the chop (and their wealth taken too) and the people become serfs until expiry date.
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:31am
  - Nickc2
    
    useful idiots get the chop (and their wealth taken too) and the people become serfs until expiry date
    
    So that’s what Covid-19 was invented for? No wonder Cindy’s corrupt mob is taking their time running out the anti-dote.
    
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    April 17, 2021 11:27am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Apologies for errant down tick.
      You’re right about Covid-19. The World Economic Forum make it plain it is to continue as a mechanism of control.
      
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      April 17, 2021 4:05pm
      - Nickc2
        
        No worries Kev, we both get the same downticks from Cindy’s Camp Followers.
        
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        April 17, 2021 9:11pm
- Mike
  
  From donations, you claim? Seems unlikely. Didn’t she write a book?
  
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  April 17, 2021 11:35am
  - Swifty
    
    Yeah, fair points.
    
    Unlike the Atlanta BLM leader – blew hundreds of thousands on hookers, drugs and cars etc….
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCK4mD1CMBM
    
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    April 17, 2021 12:34pm
  - kowtow
    
    Written book , deal with big movie company .
    
    isn’t the capitalist market system great , people buy products on the market and make the producers and distributors rich.
    
    no accounting for very poor taste tho’
    
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    April 17, 2021 12:45pm
  - oldfella
    
    Hunter Biden also wrote a book which got publicity to die for. How did that work out?
    https://www.showbiz411.com/2021/04/15/hunter-bidens-confessional-book-beautiful-things-is-a-sales-bust-after-first-week-despite-pr-push
    
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    April 17, 2021 12:49pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Inside every Marxist is a closet aristocrat.
  
  (Not my quote)
  
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  April 17, 2021 4:29pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Judith Collins shows empathy for a colleague after Nicola Willis received a creepy abusive tweet… but Newshub reports the story as if it is Collins that needed to apologise.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/04/judith-collins-apologises-to-nicola-willis-on-behalf-of-sexist-slug-after-distasteful-period-jab.html
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April 17, 2021 8:58am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  The MSM will twist it as suits their agenda, as we know.
  
  Reminds me of the old Atheist newspaper joke, on Jesus walking on water…
  
  “This just in, Jesus cant swim!”
  
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  April 17, 2021 9:16am
  - SB2
    
    Nevertheless more than happy to quote MSM as it suits. Especially any negative commentary about the PM.,Chris Hipkins etc.
    
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    April 17, 2021 10:55am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Or
    Did he wash his feet before walking and polluting the fish.
    
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    April 17, 2021 11:25am
- Loddenthinks
  
  So, so many things wrong with this article. First the cynical and shameless angle of attack – as you mention they make it seem like Collins was involved in some way, when she wasn’t at all.
  
  If this was a Labour or Green female MP attacked, they’d portray it as a sexist, misogynist attack, probably by a white supremacist, and they would 100% focus on the clever reply by the victim wishing the idiot a “whole month” of nice days. I can see the headline now, they’d call it a “clap-back”.
  
  Instead they bury it right at the end, with the headline, screenshots and photos showing Collins, leading the gullible to believe she was somehow involved.
  
  The standard of grammar and English shows this for the shoddy hit job it is, written by a semi-literate hack, most likely fresh from indoctrination at lefty media school.
  
  “Opposition leader Judith Collins swooped in to apologise on behalf of the man, who’s Twitter account has since been deleted.” It’s whose you stupid little girl.
  
  “But Willis didn’t seem phased” well she wouldn’t be would she, since she’s neither an electrical circuit nor a project. The word is fazed you cretin.
  
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  April 17, 2021 9:33am
  - Nickc2
    
    Well sayd lodden.
    
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    April 17, 2021 9:43am
    - Tall Man
      
      He did said it gooder than she did……..
      
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      April 17, 2021 9:59am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    written by a semi-literate hack, most likely fresh from indoctrination at lefty media school.
    
    A graduate from Victoria University with a double major in English literature and Media studies.
    
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    April 17, 2021 10:20am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      No stem creds.
      
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      April 17, 2021 10:32am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Story checks out then!
      
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      April 17, 2021 10:59am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Toe-may-toe toe-mar-toe
      
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      April 17, 2021 11:55am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      This kind of thing is going to give Vic a bad name
      
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      April 17, 2021 6:38pm
  - G152
    
    The truth and the English language are strangers to the ‘woke’
    
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    April 17, 2021 10:41am
- cmm
  
  $50M (or whatever it has been topped up to now) pays for a lot of dead rat eating.
  
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  April 17, 2021 9:58am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    $105M currently and rising?
    
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    April 17, 2021 10:33am
    - softail 1450
      
      KevinO’Brien ,wrong ,it’s 70 million ,dedicated Maori monies (35 million) are not tallied in NZ.
      
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      April 17, 2021 11:29am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        Are they paying Maoris more again? What for? Haven’t they already had too much?
        
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        April 17, 2021 4:07pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  When I read the headlines, that is exactly what I thought.
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:28am
cmm

A few days ago Ash says “Here is our plan” showing some diagrams with nice pictures or vaccines with tick marks and graphs.

Then it becomes a “chart”.
Then it becomes “just illustrative”

FFS. The most low level engineer/programmer/event organiser/take away food business person knows that a dream/wish is not a plan. Why do the people running the Covid show not know this?

But I suppose it works for the muggles. Draw some pictures and they are happy. Extra points for glitter.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-ministry-of-health-vaccine-rollout-chart-illustrative-only/MKJLSUUCQORKVTXI5TOEM53GTY/
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April 17, 2021 9:01am
- sooty
  
  Was it drawn in crayons for dear leader?
  
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  April 17, 2021 9:23am
- Nickc2
  
  Hey, Helen Clark got rich signing pictures (other peoples).
  
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  April 17, 2021 9:23am
- alex Masterley
  
  The word “aspiration” springs to mind.
  
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  April 17, 2021 9:40am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    As does “approximation”
    
    The graph is only an approximation, but the Herald understands the rollout is already slightly behind schedule and the Government is keeping a close watch to ensure there isn’t any further slippage.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/cabinet-to-consider-transtasman-bubble-next-week-april-possible-start-date/MMXNSI7ANHP4OQME5VPPB67QBI/
    
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    April 17, 2021 10:22am
    - oldfella
      
      Maggy, certainly not ‘too definitive’.
      
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      April 17, 2021 12:53pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Cindy saved 80,000 lives. That is enough for Sheeple.
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:28am
- KevO'Brien
  
  They are pushing the limits of their abilities. It was mis-used charts that were used for COVID fearmongering.
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:35am
- JJ56
  
  Even CNN is starting to break ranks:
  
  “New Zealand was celebrated for its handling of the pandemic. What went wrong with vaccines?”
  
  https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/15/asia/new-zealand-australia-covid-vaccine-intl-dst-hnk/index.html
  
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  April 17, 2021 6:30pm
I remember when

US covid deaths since Biden became President – 152,704.
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April 17, 2021 9:02am
- SB2
  
  On Trump’s Last Full Day, Nation Records 400,000 Covid Deaths
  
  https://khn.org/news/nation-records-400000-covid-deaths-on-last-day-of-donald-trump-presidency/
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:46am
Greg Ettridge

Now here is a state really pushing the science.
Yesterday,In Hospital covid positive from hotel Quarantine Australia wide are 49.
Queensland has 42 of these, so rest of Australia with 144 positive cases have 7 in hospital.
NSW has 61 cases with 1 in Hospital, Queensland 43, 42 in hospital
This is just insane. Healthy positives put in hospitals to infect staff. It is a world first I believe.
Why don’t you put all positive cases of Shingles in hospitals?
These are the same control freaks that designated declared hotspots of areas that had never had a case.
I asked if -1 cases was scientifically possible? Crickets! months ago,waiting for an answer.
Isn’t it exciting, 2 more sleeps and NZ can play the Australian china flu roulette game of travel.
One thing you can be guaranteed, it will constantly change and you will be the one out of pocket.
If you are going to travel, NSW is by far the safest destination control wise.
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April 17, 2021 9:21am
I remember when

Log Supply ‘not the cause of timber shortage.’
Forest Owners Assn president, Phil Taylor, pointed to the two biggest wood processors in NZ both publicly stating the shortage was mostly caused by a covid emergence building boom.
CHH issued a statement saying the shortage was short term and industry wide.
A huge timber appetite as well as CHH’s difficulties with upgrading capacity at its Kawerau mill.
Red Stag CE, Marty Verry, says there is a worldwide building boom and NZ is no exception.
Phil Taylor said the volume of the NZ timber market has been remarkably stable for the last two decades.
Claims the problem is log exports to China goes back to Shane Jones’ Log Mongers Bill last year. An attempt to cross subsidise local production with exports.
The logs supplied to China are generally not suitable to meet the house construction grades here in New Zealand.
There is not that much overlap.
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April 17, 2021 9:29am
stinkypete

Had my first covid vac at Burwood yesterday
Staff manning the centre seem to have got things running really well.
I think the system will scale up satisfactorily as there is a great deal of good intentions from those tasked with delivery despite poor communication and organisation from Wellington
I think the time frame is way off but the system is improving
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April 17, 2021 9:42am
NeverMindTheBollocks

I see the Hamilton – Auckland train is packed today. An extra coach was added, and still people had to be left on the Huntley platform, crowed Hamilton City Councillor Dave MacPherson.

No word on how many passengers paid for their tickets. Looking at you, Gold Card holders.
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April 17, 2021 9:44am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Cindy said – “patronage won’t grow overnight, but it will grow”. Amen to that. Well done Cindy. Take that KevO’B
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:30am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Patronage on Saturday? That the free day for the Gold Card. (Sunday too.)
    
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    April 17, 2021 1:08pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Surprised to see you so pleased she’s wasting your money with such abandon.
    
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    April 17, 2021 1:56pm
- Close Hen Counters
  
  Haha I said the same thing word for word!
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:58am
- sooty
  
  Parent’s taking the kids for a train ride, maybe!
  Were else can you in the Waikato!
  Taxi to the mall, have lunch, shop and home!
  
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  April 17, 2021 11:57am
- rangitoto
  
  Retirement village outing?
  
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  April 17, 2021 12:13pm
I remember when

Very Low Nicotine Level cigarettes:
In a systematic review of 78 articles in PubMed by ML Berman and AM Glasser found in research publish in December, 2019, stated that important research gaps remain.
* Lack of detailed information about long term success.
* It does not greatly reduce harmful effects until smokers stop smoking entirely.
*The possible effect on the high percentage of mental health patients who smoke of the sudden reduction of nicotine content.
* Some smokers compensate by increasing number of cigarettes smoked. Increased cost to poor smokers.
* Many smokers believe vln cigarettes would lessen cancer risk and some stated they would be less likely to quit.
However, the conclusion reached, was that the harm caused by tobacco made moving forward attractive.
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April 17, 2021 10:20am
- sooty
  
  Will reduced nicotine smokes cost less?
  
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  April 17, 2021 12:00pm
- kowtow
  
  I lurv how everyone seems to have got on board the anti tobacco train so uncritically , cos : it’s bad , it’s unhealthy , it’s big business , it’s addictive , blah blah ……..
  
  Well all those arguments are made by the Health nazis against alcohol .
  
  So be careful what you wish for . Plain packaged bottles, mandated lower alcohol levels in your fav tipple , eventual banning even ……
  
  And for the final irony , they want a tobacco free NZ while pushing for “cannabis” reform , go figure.
  
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  April 17, 2021 12:17pm
I remember when

Oh dear.
At question time this week Megan (the round, mound of extraneous sound), was warned twice by the speaker, for what he said were unwarranted attacks on the questioner.
Obviously she will severely spoken to by the PM!
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April 17, 2021 10:31am
- sooty
  
  Like hell, a cindy sycophant!
  
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  April 17, 2021 12:01pm
- Nickc2
  
  The Wide Mouth Frog has no shame.
  
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  April 17, 2021 9:20pm
lazza

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Quote:

NZ Herald today on Trump’s disappearance …

“Some followers who saw him as a man who could challenge the establishment will view his defeat as proof that politics is irredeemable and will slide into apathy and disengagement.

“For others, Trump’s loss makes him into a loser – especially damaging given how much Trump hates losers. They will seek other heroes now.”

I have yet to witness on KB, any! apologia from the many strident (delusional) Trump supporters- circa 2016 to Jan 2021, who infested this blog.

When might we expect some humble pie?

And Ohh … BTW … please extend those awaited apologies to the much maligned Slim Dave … our Patron of this fine conduit of rational and balanced public opinion … who bravely bore the shafts and spears … slings and arrows. .
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April 17, 2021 10:35am
- David George
  
  Apology for what?
  
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  April 17, 2021 12:49pm
- oldfella
  
  Iazza, that story’s from the same MSM that gave Trump such fair and balanced treatment when he was president.
  https://mobile.twitter.com/dailycaller/status/1382777804014641152
  
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  April 17, 2021 1:03pm
Happychappy

National slam ‘broken Health Service ‘ for releasing patients from hospital in middle of might.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/04/national-slams-broken-healthcare-system-discharging-elderly-from-hospital-in-middle-of-the-night.html
It looks like Labour and the Prime Minister have run out of kindness as winter is about to begin.
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April 17, 2021 10:35am
- MCos
  
  From the article
  “Dr Reti was unable to say whether the same was happening under National’s last term in power.”
  And
  “After the interview with Dr Reti aired, Waitematā DHB said in a statement it would “never discharge a vulnerable elderly person overnight without being sure that they have appropriate supports in place”.”
  
  This leads one to suspect Dr Reti hasn’t done his homework, or, if he has he’s cherry picked the bits that suit his political agenda.
  
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  April 17, 2021 12:38pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    In 2017 Jacinda Ardern made a big deal about Hospitals discharging elderly late at night.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/hospital-tries-to-send-jacinda-arderns-grandfather-85-home-at-1130pm/DKDM6WGNIS6BWEO2QGEIEMOTTI/
    
    Looks like her Governments have done bugger-all to change things.
    
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    April 17, 2021 6:22pm
I remember when

Is the Labour Party/Left like a bus driver.
Always looking at were it is going, never at were it has been.
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April 17, 2021 10:39am
- Tall Man
  
  Not even looking full stop I think.
  
  https://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/embed/public/2018/07/12/bus-crash.jpg
  
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  April 17, 2021 1:50pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Ah ha..
An explanation for why dairy cows are grazing on James Cameron’s land

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/james-cameron-explains-dairy-cattle-grazing-decision-his-wairarapa-farm

Too mean to pay a decent wage for workers to run his organic veggie operation.
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April 17, 2021 10:45am
- SB2
  
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  MW, a classic example of selective posting from you,
  
  “..Cameron has however defended the cattle grazing, saying while the animals would be phased off the farm, that work had been delayed by Covid-19.
  
  “Our plan to expand the veggie operation and get the animals off basically sort of got derailed by the pandemic, because we needed a lot more labour for the veggie operation than we do to run the stock, and our access to labour from the Solomon Islands or Philippines and things like that basically just went away…”
  
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  April 17, 2021 10:52am
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    I’ll get in before Martin Williams et al – if his business model requires cheap foreign labour to survive then it isn’t a real business nor sustainable and deserves to DIE!!!!!
    
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    April 17, 2021 12:22pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Still stalking, SB2.
    
    I posted the link to the entire article.
    
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    April 17, 2021 1:29pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      If that was an actual definition of stalking, any reply of your to any of SB’s comments would also have to count as ‘stalking’.
      
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      April 17, 2021 2:22pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        It’s stalking.
        
        Every FUCKING Day, he puts up an irrelevant or inaccurate post .. addressed to me.
        
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        April 17, 2021 4:50pm
      - Mike
        
        Not just to you, but your overreaction is especially entertaining.
        
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        April 17, 2021 5:27pm
  - Harriet
    
    So he doesn’t want to give local unemployed maori and the like meaningful work? – instead mostly cheap imported temporary staff from the 3rd world?
    
    At least the dairy industry offset their labour emissions. 😎
    
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    April 17, 2021 1:34pm
  - Greg Ettridge
    
    Jacinda Ardern, the Australian farmers best friend, just keep getting rid of those dirty filthy polluting animals.
    Australian farmers are experiencing cattle and sheep prices like never before.
    A 42 year old I know, is setting up a sheep meat operation, 6 million for the land and 6 million for the stock, meat is going to continue to be a gold mine.
    
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    April 17, 2021 2:25pm
    - kevn
      
      @Greg… If Bill Gates is the biggest farmland owner in the USA, clearly there must be something in it… $ mostly.
      
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      April 17, 2021 4:04pm
- kowtow
  
  “….our access to labour from the Solomon Islands or Philippines and things like that basically just went away.”
  
  I love the vegan/environment/organic food at an expensive premium/oh look at me I’m so virtuous crowd ……the organic fair trade coffee , farmers market ,sandal wearing ,e bike riding eco activists type. Well educated , priveliged , white and middle class and so in touch with Gaia .
  
  Their expensive food comes off the back of exploited brown people , who get trucked around the world , be it California (driven on utes running on fossil fuels ) sucking up all that water growing almonds off the back of Central American illegals or our very own Wairarapa where they get flown in on eco friendly jets .
  
  And all those “exotic” workers actually block the local economy from functioning properly where wages should grow due to a lack of supply of labour , unless of course one can exploit foreign brown folk ,who’ll work for relative peanuts .
  
  Ain’t globalisation great.
  
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  April 17, 2021 11:05am
  - MCos
    
    I watched his interview on Checkpoint and apart from being a little surprised he fronted up at all was not at all convinced by his explanation as to why he has cows on his property.
    As to importing foreign labour to work in his paddocks.
    Well! Shock Horror!
    Not exactly a scandal for orchidists, dairy farmers, construction companies . . . .
    
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    April 17, 2021 12:53pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Wow. That’s a change from the usual Kiwiblog rant that we must import more brown labourers because Kiwis are too lazy to milk cows/pick fruit/clean offices, etc, etc.
    
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    April 17, 2021 2:24pm
I remember when

The Grant Robertson and David Seymour debate in Parliament this week raises interesting points on Air New Zealand.
Robertson thinks his letter to the Air NZ board is simply communication to a government department.
David Seymour raised the matter for debate in Parliament as a breach of Company Stock Exchange rules.
Air NZ shareholdings show the NZ Government as owning 52% of Air NZ’s ordinary shares.
Can Grant Robertson send a letter setting out the Government’s requirements without breaching share market rules.
Is Air NZ a 52% New Zealand Government Department or is it 100% a company traded on the stockmarket and governed entriely by their rules.
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April 17, 2021 11:04am
- Colville
  
  Rules are for plebs…this government dont care for rules.
  
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  April 17, 2021 2:37pm
SB2

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Things are not that bad at all all things considered with the 2 jab vaccine roll out as from 3 days ago. Also the fact that on KB and elsewhere of anti vaxxer mind won’t be taking the jabs in the first place.

Shall we conduct an informal register on KB of those who decide not to take up the jabs? Even for specious political reasons that for many would be an important reason.

COVID-19: Vaccine data

Data and statistics about the rollout of COVID-19 vaccines in New Zealand.

https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-data-and-statistics/covid-19-vaccine-data
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April 17, 2021 11:04am
- sooty
  
  The boss of Pfizer vacine said you need 3 jabs and a yearly booster and keep your muzzle on!
  He’s going to profit bigly from this!
  
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  April 17, 2021 12:10pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Shall we conduct an informal register on KB of those who decide not to take up the jabs?
  
  Do you need some new victims to harass on KB?
  
  Why not choose someone’s name at random… it worked fine for you when you called me an Alt-right Trumpeter with no FUCKING EVIDENCE!
  
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  April 17, 2021 1:43pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Are you ‘stalking’ SB2?
    
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    April 17, 2021 2:25pm
    - graham
      
      Don’t play the giddy goat mikenmildagain.
      
      You’ve been around Kiwiblog for a long time – certainly long enough to have observed the interaction between Maggy and SB2 over the years.
      
      You know damn well that SB2 has been obsessively harassing Maggy for a very long time – or as Maggy puts it, and I agree, stalking her.
      
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      April 17, 2021 4:44pm
      - Mike
        
        Rubbish. This is a moderated blog, so actual stalking could not possibly be tolerated. The best advice for Maggy Wassilief would be to ignore SB2’s rubbish, but she seems to be compelled to reply to most of his comments.
        As for actual harassment, SB2 has probably been the only Kiwiblogger to get doxxed, and hassled as a result, at his church IIRC.
        
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        April 17, 2021 6:12pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Not at all mikenmildagain.
      
      Check the times he puts up his first inane posts to me… practically every FUCKING Day.
      
      They are either off topic, or inaccurate.
      
      Is there a reason you continue to harass me over this matter?
      
      Are you continuing to work in concert with the anonymous abusers on KB…as you have for the last 6 or so years?
      
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      April 17, 2021 4:54pm
      - Mike
        
        I’m not harassing you. If I were, the moderators would ban me, wouldn’t they?
        
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        April 17, 2021 5:33pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        So after 6+ years you continue making personal comments about me and my requests not to be abused on this blog.
        
        The fact is you and your anonymous mates knew perfectly well that you could abuse mefreely here.
        
        What you hoped to achieve, I don’t know.
        
        I’m not a rich bitch.. I’m not a National Party groupie.
        I’m not a mate of our host.
        I’m just an old lady…from a very lowly working class background…
        
        just the type that some folks like to keep in the gutter.
        
        You must be proud of yourself..
        
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        April 17, 2021 6:08pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I’m no0t harassing or abusing you. Complain to DPF, or forget about it. You can’t expect that continuing to lie about me is going to have any affect of what I comment on.
        My advice is to ignore some commenters, entirely. Works for me. But you might feel that would mean the imaginary harassers ‘win’ somehow.
        All internet advice agrees, if you are dealing with a troll don’t feed it.
        
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        April 17, 2021 6:30pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

More shit from the crazy 81 year old Pelosi. This is a woman that takes a knee and has to be helped up.
https://bongino.com/pelosi-claims-to-have-been-ready-to-personally-engage-in-hand-to-hand-combat-on-january-6th/?
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April 17, 2021 11:29am
- Nickc2
  
  It might work? In California, they put her out in the fields to scare the Crows off the crops. It works for them.
  
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  April 17, 2021 11:36am
  - sooty
    
    She wouldbe good in the strawberry fields!
    Put her down at start of row, pickup at end!
    
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    April 17, 2021 12:12pm
    - Nickc2
      
      Yuck, I wouldn’t pick it up with a stick.
      
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      April 17, 2021 9:03pm
- Inandout
  
  Steve, I love his outspokenness, such as we used to have in NZ not that long ago.
  
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  April 17, 2021 2:15pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Police getting a hammering from the MSM in the US. Follow instructions, stop when told, do not resist and you will not get dead. You may get arrested and go to jail or you may be released. Thing is, you will still be alive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo80D42DxUM
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April 17, 2021 11:37am
WaynelSexton

You can stop being scared now….

Influenza cases in the USA, 2016-2021
2016-2017: 29 million
2017-2018: 45 million
2018-2019: 36 million
2019-2020: 38 million
2020-2021: 0.0015 million

Covid cases in the USA
2020-2021: 32 million
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April 17, 2021 11:44am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Covid even cures old age, cancer, emphysema, heart disease ……
  
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  April 17, 2021 12:00pm
- softail 1450
  
  Waynel,,, We really have been conned worldwide, how has it happened??? stupidity and a complicit international media , the biggest culprits were Big Tech and they were the ones that benefitted the most .
  
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  April 17, 2021 12:03pm
- MCos
  
  What’s your point, WS?
  15% of the NZ population typically contracts the flu annually too and around 500 die as a result.
  Except last year because it wasn’t brought into the country.
  
  In America deaths from influenza over the last ten years or so have ranged from 22-61,000. Considerably less than the more than half a million deaths from covid-19.
  
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  April 17, 2021 1:20pm
  - MrTips
    
    You really think the flu just disappeared because of COVID and only 1/5 of the air travel? Bless you.
    
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    April 17, 2021 9:10pm
KevO'Brien

The Duke of Edinburgh’s funeral;
Order of Service
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9480203/Order-service-Funeral-Royal-Highness-Prince-Philip-Duke-Edinburgh.html

A man of purpose, character, quality and faith.
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April 17, 2021 11:46am
softail 1450

Steve Otto,Yeah and she’s wasn’t going to impeach , now she’s not going to stack the supreme Court either, the mad old bitch.
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April 17, 2021 11:53am
Swifty

Roy crashes Patrick’s car pissed, Patrick not happy:

https://leakedreality.com/video/7304/you-re-too-drunk-to-drive-and-roy-will-take-it-from-here

Made in NZ.
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April 17, 2021 11:54am
MrTips

The time has come for a politician with a pulse and a spine to suggest it. It has been this way for a while, but it needs to be said and debated openly now.

Our dealing with gangs needs to change. They have changed, so must the rest of society.

1. Make a register of known criminal gangs. This is not hard. Base it on proven court cases.
2. Find an island. One at least 10N miles from anywhere. Build barracks on it. No cell or wifi.
3. Put gang members convicted past x date on that island. Ignore the usual suspect cries of “inhumane”. It is not inhumane. These guys are feral and nasty and must be stopped from ruining our society with drugs and converting other prisoners to their evil schemes. Daily heli drop of food and let them fight over it.
4. Let the navy target practice on the inevitable attempts at escape.

I bet you it’s less expensive and works.
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April 17, 2021 12:05pm
- [email protected]
  
  Let them grow their own food.
  
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  April 17, 2021 6:20pm
oldfella

Notes for copy editors::)

A dangling participle walks into a bar. Enjoying a cocktail and chatting with the bartender, the evening passes pleasantly.

A bar was walked into by the passive voice.

An oxymoron walked into a bar, and the silence was deafening.

Two quotation marks walk into a “bar.”

A malapropism walks into a bar, looking for all intensive purposes like a wolf in cheap clothing, muttering epitaphs and casting dispersions on his magnificent other, who takes him for granite.

Hyperbole totally rips into this insane bar and absolutely destroys everything.

A question mark walks into a bar?

A non sequitur walks into a bar. In a strong wind, even turkeys can fly.

Papyrus and Comic Sans walk into a bar. The bartender says, “Get out — we don’t serve your type.”

A mixed metaphor walks into a bar, seeing the handwriting on the wall but hoping to nip it in the bud.

A comma splice walks into a bar, it has a drink and then leaves.

Three intransitive verbs walk into a bar. They sit. They converse. They depart.

A synonym strolls into a tavern.

At the end of the day, a cliché walks into a bar — fresh as a daisy, cute as a button, and sharp as a tack.

A run-on sentence walks into a bar it starts flirting. With a cute little sentence fragment.

Falling slowly, softly falling, the chiasmus collapses to the bar floor.

A figure of speech literally walks into a bar and ends up getting figuratively hammered.

An allusion walks into a bar, despite the fact that alcohol is its Achilles heel.

The subjunctive would have walked into a bar, had it only known.

A misplaced modifier walks into a bar owned a man with a glass eye named Ralph.

The past, present, and future walked into a bar. It was tense.

A dyslexic walks into a bra.

A verb walks into a bar, sees a beautiful noun, and suggests they conjugate. The noun declines.

An Oxford comma walks into a bar, where it spends the evening watching the television getting drunk and smoking cigars.

A simile walks into a bar, as parched as a desert.

A gerund and an infinitive walk into a bar, drinking to forget.

A hyphenated word and a non-hyphenated word walk into a bar and the bartender nearly chokes on the irony.
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April 17, 2021 1:16pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  So clever.
  
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  April 17, 2021 5:36pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    An Aussie walks into a bar with a frog on his head. The barman says, “Where did you get that?”
    The frog answers, “Dunno – it started off as a wart on my bum. “
    
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    April 17, 2021 7:47pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      A Samoan walks into a bar with a gorrilla on his shoulders.
      Th barman asks, ” where did you get the gorilla?”
      The Samoan replied, “From the jungle.”
      The barman said, ” I’m not talking to you !!”
      
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      April 17, 2021 7:51pm
      - RichardX
        
        Don Beckett, That is the sort of casual racism that gives Kiwiblog a bad name.
        
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        April 17, 2021 9:17pm
KevO'Brien

Another citizen blooper?
https://www.infowars.com/posts/new-zealand-looks-to-ban-cigarette-sales-to-anyone-born-after-2004-to-make-nation-smoke-free-by-2025/

This seems contrary to the Bill of Rights.

Don’t the health “authorities” realise yet that Polynesian body size and smoking are largely culturally derived? A larger person shows their relative wealth status more readily. It may have been passed down from generations having to survive island hurricanes. The fatter had a better chance and still do. You can tell an important Pacific Chief by their enhanced size. (Their immediate family too.)
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April 17, 2021 1:17pm
I remember when

Sometimes you just wonder if they are really that into their job.
Perhaps they are taking part in a workplace dispute.
Just had a ‘scam’ email telling me they had tried to deliver me a parcel on the 14 June 2021.
Must make sure I am home.
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April 17, 2021 1:20pm
- sooty
  
  It’s your jab, the courier is going to inject you!
  
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  April 17, 2021 5:40pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

I found this interesting. Korean Woman Kaheva on China.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JQ1wVo4HMA
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April 17, 2021 1:48pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Congressman Jim Jordan shoving it up Fauci. All Jordan wants is the number when Americans get their 1st Amendment rights back. Commie Dr Fauci will not give Americans that number.
https://leadpatriot.com/jim-jordan-maxine-waters-and-dr-fauci-in-an-explosive-3-way-shouting-match-over-covid-video/11502/
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April 17, 2021 2:01pm
- cha
  
  This Gym Jordan?
  
  https://www.si.com/more-sports/2020/02/12/jim-jordan-accused-cover-up-sexual-abuse-ohio-state
  
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  April 17, 2021 2:06pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Still worshipping ‘Gym’ Jordan?
  
  Jordan was an assistant coach at Ohio State University from 1986 to 1994. From 1979 to 1996 the official athletics doctor, Richard Strauss, sexually abused 177 male athletes. Strauss’ behavior was openly discussed by athletes in front of coaching staff, but it was not reported to officials until well-after Strauss’s tenure at OSU. A report from the investigation into the abuse found that “did not identify any contemporaneous documentary evidence that members of the OSU coaching staff, including head coaches or assistant coaches, received or were aware of complaints regarding Strauss sexual misconduct.”But the report also stated that 22 coaches “confirmed to the Investigative Team they were aware of rumors and/or complaints about Strauss, dating back to the late 1970s and extending into the mid-1990s.
  
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  April 17, 2021 2:27pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Gym Jordan – you guys are leftie sickos. You know it is fake news, yet you continue to repeat it.
  get your hands off cocks please
  
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  April 17, 2021 4:07pm
  - cha
    
    hands off cocks please
    
    Gym was okay about hands on cocks.
    
    A professional referee says in a lawsuit filed Thursday that disgraced doctor Richard Strauss masturbated in front of him in a shower after a wrestling match at Ohio State University, and that he reported the encounter directly to Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, who was then the assistant coach.
    
    “Yeah, that’s Strauss,” Jordan and then-head coach Russ Hellickson replied, according to the lawsuit, when the referee, identified in court papers as John Doe 42, told them about the incident. The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Ohio, implies that Jordan’s response to the incident, which the referee said happened in 1994, was essentially a shrug.
    
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/referee-says-he-told-rep-jim-jordan-ohio-state-doctor-n1078476
    
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    April 17, 2021 11:24pm
Jack5

Woke history brainwashing of children scheduled for Scotland, too.

The Scots National Party and Sturgeon plan to “face the UK’s colonial past” in Black Lives Matter-inspired history lessons, reports the Telegraph.

The report notes that the Edinburgh City Council has included in its dossier of sites linked to “slavery and colonialism” the grave of Adam Smith, the father of economics.

Scotch gits!
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April 17, 2021 2:02pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Labour Minister has no problem with taxpayers’ money going to a friendly political party.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/04/whanau-ora-minister-has-no-issue-with-national-urban-m-ori-authority-donation-to-m-ori-authority.html
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April 17, 2021 2:05pm
lazza

No upticks for my suggestion of apologies from the Loser Trumpsters… 13 downticks but. Still some distance to go before KB can claim to be a voice of reason then.
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April 17, 2021 2:13pm
Maggy Wassilieff

How others view our Dear Leader

I have long thought you simply historically uninformed, incompetent, manipulative and massively egotistical. However, I have come to the reluctant conclusion you are very much part of the enemy within, that movement seeking to destroy a country by forcing separatism and divisiveneness on a cohesive people.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/04/dear-comrade-jacinda/
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April 17, 2021 2:14pm
- krazykiwi
  
  That article is a bullseye.
  
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  April 17, 2021 2:41pm
- Master Mariner
  
  Great article
  
  This is what you legislated for, isn’t it? However, banning further exploration has meant New Zealand burned 800,000 tons of coal for electricity generation last year – four times the amount burnt before Labour was in government. It will all soon filter through to retail prices, your oil and gas ban turning out exactly as predicted. New Zealand has lost energy security. Families – the elderly – will pay more for electricity – all because you needed something to say at the UN climate summit in 2018?
  
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  April 17, 2021 2:56pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

CDC numbers.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b2lj1dn72h49h15/CDC%20numbers.jpg?dl=0
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April 17, 2021 2:19pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Second Amendment rights.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j6xka6dy40ehgvk/second%20amendment%20rights.jpg?dl=0
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April 17, 2021 2:20pm
Maggie Pie

Thort this worth sharing with the group….
Just back home from Tennis Tournie on the Shore. One of the gals there was telling us she’d read where Dildo’s were around 28,000 years ago!

We didn’t believe her at first….but she has sent link.

https://twitter.com/alexkasprak/status/1383207567220830211
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April 17, 2021 2:40pm
- Don Beckett
  
  Maggie – what does an elephant use for a vibrator?
  
  An epileptic pygmi.
  
  (Ok, I’ll leave now) 😉
  
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  April 17, 2021 7:56pm
theoldbloke

Justice is delayed and nobody seems to care?
With lockdowns delaying the justice system I am advised that “today” applications to family court will take 18-24 months to get to a hearing!!!!!

Maybe the Little chappie should appoint a few more judges and resources to the problem?
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April 17, 2021 2:45pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  How can family matters be adjudicated that way!
  Apart from probably separated and hostile parents there can be issues of custody, access, visits, schooling, the kids basic welfare and anxiety and the rest…
  
  Can this govt never do anything right? Special temporary Courts or whatever is needed should be put in place immediately. Good senior lawyers could do the job if allowed. The matters are often minor and an independent 3rd party can break barriers and allow decisions and action.
  
  This Govt fails in any sense of Justice, now the administration is falling apart too. Cindy reigns from her fireplace and the Bill of Rights and other law is irrelevant.
  If you’re Maori it’s DIY: make your own rules.
  
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  April 17, 2021 4:25pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

One of my favorite Americans Candace Owens exposing marxist BLM founder buying expensive properties. Take money from the poor and keep them controlled.
https://rumble.com/vfmpy1-candance-goes-off-on-hypocrite-blm-co-founder.html?
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April 17, 2021 2:54pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Large Corporations are also donating to her – why?
  
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  April 17, 2021 2:56pm
- cha
  
  Candy knows all about taking money from a poor community.
  https://www.thehour.com/norwalk/article/Schools-pay-37-500-to-Owens-family-8240741.php
  
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  April 17, 2021 3:02pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    You know dam fucking well that she is a threat to the corrupt Democrats. Owens could be the first black woman POTUS in 2024. If Trump senior runs, she will back down, as will Nikki Hayley.
    ‘Taking money from a poor community is different in California right? Answer me you hypocrite
    
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    April 17, 2021 4:15pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Bored? There are 30 pop groups in this picture – name them.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dvxp8iecauaqjwf/Pop%20groups.jpg?dl=0
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April 17, 2021 3:31pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

More from my dropbox.
Book by Donald Trump. Lefties, go to the basement.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cwxdgmspo3d8bus/winner.mp4?dl=0
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April 17, 2021 3:35pm
- Inandout
  
  Steve, that man will always be there in the background in stark contrast to the bumbling Biden. Without comparisons you have nothing.
  
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  April 17, 2021 5:00pm
- SB2
  
  Winners aren’t losers by Donald Trump (Ghostwritten)
  
  Pre 03/11/20?
  
  LOL
  
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  April 17, 2021 7:36pm
Maggie Pie

BREAKINGING….

RT reporting that Vlad has demanded….. “At least 1 million Illegal Immigrants leave the country by June 15th, or they will suffer punishment”

The thing you have to admire about Putsy, is he means what he says.
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April 17, 2021 3:46pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  He is not a bad man, I respect him. Only the corrupt media portray him as bad.
  
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  April 17, 2021 4:17pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    You’re just saying that so he doesn’t put polonium in your tea.
    
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    April 17, 2021 6:36pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Mike reckoned I get agitated in the afternoons. Here Mike—–
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkLhJsHxYxM
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April 17, 2021 4:24pm
Chuck Bird

Did anyone see on the TV1 news the story of the woman who came for Oz the day the bubble was announced and was not allowed out a little early from MIQ to see her father before he goes in for surgery for brain cancer? This hopefully will help kill the myth the Comrade Ardern is kind.
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