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slightlyrighty

Happy Towel Day to all the Hoopy Froods out there!
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May 25, 2021 8:09am
I remember when

Unemployment scheme could cost up to $5 billion a year.
Lucky it isn’t going to be a ‘tax.’
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May 25, 2021 8:11am
- BeeJay
  
  TUI ad?
  
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  May 25, 2021 8:28am
- peterwn
  
  I smell ‘moral hazard’ all over this one. Suppose an employer and employee collude to procure the ‘benefit’.
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:24am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Keep Robbo’s hands out of the till. Money has gone to his head.
  
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  May 25, 2021 11:00am
Happychappy

Oh I need these people to vote for me and it’s not my fault I can’t make a difference by instructing Pharmac to do as I tell them.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/05/jacinda-ardern-listening-to-calls-for-pharmac-to-fund-13yo-s-life-changing-drugs-but-nothing-she-can-do.html
The bullshit even applies to 13 year olds nowadays and i really can’t help her.
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May 25, 2021 8:13am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I did some quick calculations about a year ago. The Australian equivalent of Pharmac spends about DOUBLE New Zealand’s expenditure per capita on medicines. Also the patient Co payment is higher at about 20 dollars. Australia funds hundreds of medicines that are absent in New Zealand.
  
  At least we have ‘wellbeing’. ?
  
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  May 25, 2021 8:38am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    But Australia doesn’t have the huge financial anchor of the ‘special people’ who need WINZ funding before any money is available for anything else.
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:02am
    - stewmar
      
      But Australia doesn’t have the huge financial anchor of the ‘special people’ who need WINZ funding before any money is available for anything else.
      
      yes they do, they’re called first nation.
      
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      May 25, 2021 9:06am
    - peterwn
      
      Because Australia has given them the 501 boot.
      
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      May 25, 2021 9:26am
    - RockyJ
      
      Don’t worry about our special needs kids. When the parallel health ministry is established there will be a special fund for special drugs not available to the rest of us.
      
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      May 25, 2021 9:30am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      And that is it.
      
      I believe that every time New Zealand is compared to an overseas country like Denmark or Ireland (being mentioned more times than Syria or Iran) that we consider what the comparable country would be like if they had the same level of dysfunctional citizens, brown and European, in their midst.
      
      I believe that New Zealand a more dysfunctional proportion of population which I ascribe to te treati with all the perceived entitleitis that has been engendered.
      
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      May 25, 2021 9:31am
      - kowtow
        
        Ireland’s pretty damn dysfunctional . Created out of a civil war against its lawful govt in which the primary target was Irish folk who wanted to maintain the Union ,followed by a civil war against other Irish folk who didn’t want to be a Dominion , followed by decades of economic stagnation that was only reversed by subservience to Paris/ Berlin during which time there was a thirty year terrorist war in the north east which is only barely papered over , all of which has been heavily romanticised by Hollywood to portray the place as some sort of idyll.
        
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        May 25, 2021 11:02am
    - jon
      
      Diversity that we are told to celebrate comes at one hell of a price!
      
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      May 25, 2021 2:33pm
  - Happychappy
    
    But the only people that think Wellbeing works are criminals , those that are in gangs that get the lifestyle of those that worked hard to establish a successful Business and accumulate their wealth for their future Generations.
    Then you have the criminals behind bars that murder ,rape, steal and defraud that Labour think would be better out on the streets doing what they do best which really would be disaster for our country , but Jacinda Ardern and her Minister of Corrections think they know best are reducing their sentences and letting them out to reduce the prison population and the need to build more correction facilities.
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:07am
  - rockape
    
    We spend less than the OECD average .
    
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    May 25, 2021 11:02am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    We also have sense. Pharmac does an excellent job keeping our free or low cost medicines to internationally proven remedies. We cannot afford all nor should we be subject to feel good demands. Even less so new pharmaceuticals with lofty price tags and spraying hope more than evidence.
    
    There are 3,000 year old cheap remedies, one of which has cured diabetic ulcers and others removing arthritis pain or psoriasis. These are not looked at because there no money in patenting them. We are bombarded with new products selling high priced sizzle. Pharmac prevents us wasting money on that.
    
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    May 25, 2021 11:11am
    - oldfella
      
      There are 3,000 year old cheap remedies, one of which has cured diabetic ulcers and others removing arthritis pain or psoriasis…
      
      Kev, be interested to know what they are…
      
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      May 25, 2021 11:23am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        You can see them on my website:
        rubiton.co.nz
        
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        May 25, 2021 11:55am
      - Pharmachick
        
        Yo should have called your website “rubicon”, because you’ve crossed it.
        
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        May 25, 2021 12:00pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        He’s not incorrect oldfella, he’s just not citing the right sources. To whit:
        
        Pan Tsao is the great herbal “materia medica” of China. Sken Ming probably wrote it in 2735 B.C. It contained many vegetable and mineral preparations as well as a few animal products.
        
        Eber’s Papyrus (c. 1550 BC) is the first written account of medical experiences from Egypt. It contains more than 700 prescriptions including castor-oil and tincture opii.
        
        Galen, a Greek pharmacist/physician (131-201 AD), introduced the concept of polypharmacy. He wrote 200 books which included preparations of crude vegetable drugs.
        
        Paracelsus (1493-1541 AD) criticized the Galenic system of polypharmacy and introduced the use of simple chemicals for treating diseases such as mercurials in the treatment of syphilis.
        
        It goes on, I teach a 1.5 hr lecture on the history of Pharmaceutical Sciences each January (non examinable, just for learning and historical perspective).
        
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        May 25, 2021 1:49pm
      - KevO'Brien
        
        @Pharmachick
        Thanks for your interest.
        When I get some fresh stock made up I’ll be happy to send you some free. I hope to get Otago Uni. interested this year.
        I couldn’t walk from arthritis–now I’m out doing the shopping. Psoriasis has been tamed too. I also have the nuisance mild rosacea which I suppress when the swelling starts.
        
        I’ve had reports from a nurse of our basic Rubiton healing a long standing diabetic ulcer. That doesn’t surprise me as it is a powerful antiseptic and also seems to cover open wounds which are otherwise very hard to heal. If I scratch myself it can be almost impossible to heal. However, solved. See the saga here: https://rubiton.co.nz/skin-care-diabetic-healing-saga
        
        My Deep Care is excellent at dealing with joint and muscle pain. I don’t know how that works. It is designed to be able to penetrate the skin (it’s not an emulsion) and soaks in well. The strong version is very much a get up and go. My wife’s mother has had her seized up hands freed. I have regulars. Doses are small and reports of the hazards of the individual oils and their components is not concerning. I have avoided a great deal of others–I’m not a naturopath following German mysticism. First do no harm is my guide.
        Bonus, the sweet orange oil used, Citrus Sinensis, apart from assisting with fragrance helps with elevating mood.
        
        I found the oils I use not in the ancient sources but referred to in current papers. I was hunting for anti-inflammatories in particular and Oreganum Vulgare stood out. Sea Buckthorn fruit oil is nominally credited with the Greek War horses being restored to working condition–it has Omega 7. Some of those papers can be seen on the website under Application Details/Extra for Carers. My own testing on self, family and friends has brought some yelps of success.
        Under NZ law I am permitted to produce and carefully sell these items.
        Happy to make contact with you via the website as you wish.
        
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        May 25, 2021 6:50pm
    - Interested Party
      
      There a mention of 2735 BC records in China. This can’t be correct, my understanding is that authenticated (archeologically speaking) Chinese civilisation only goes back about 3000 odd years, anything beyond that is myth and legend – despite the 5000 year history propaganda line
      
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      May 25, 2021 8:12pm
  - cmm
    
    It’s not just what you spend, but how you spend that makes a difference.
    
    There are many medicines that have overlapping functionality with vastly different pricing.
    
    Consider blood thinners: Warfarin is a about 10 cents a day, Dabigatran is $10 a day. These are certainly NOT interchangeable in many circumstances, but there are times when they are.
    
    I was prescribed Dabigatran, but discontinued it after 4 months (would have been 2 months except for the CV19 hospital shutdowns). Now my cost to Pharmac has dropped from approx $320 a month to less than $20 a month.
    
    Higher co payments at least means the patients have some skin in the game and maybe helps to encourage people to improve their health.
    
    When I was in hospital last, I saw far too many that just take the piss. For example one guy had had an expensive internal automatic defibrillator fitted (costs tens of thousands) and was massively obese – still overeating while he was in hospital.
    
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    May 25, 2021 12:41pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    And kindness. Never forget kindness.
    
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    May 25, 2021 5:00pm
- amospicton
  
  Unbelievable to me a journalist just accepts this nonsense from Ardern. Where on earth does Pharmac’s funding come from? And this just a week after a budget that gave Pharmac less than widely accepted. Surely the question “if you cared so much why didn’t you give them more money” was obvious?
  
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  May 25, 2021 8:49am
  - nathie
    
    No wonder – the so called “journalist” is one of the supporting cast of the Cindy Fan Club for Female Reporters.
    
    Pity this journalist didn’t interview Pharmac funding advocate Malcolm Mullholland, who has previously called Ardern out over this issue, and last week when asked of his opinion of Grant Robertson (who sets government expenditure and took on another $100 billion of debt but can only provide an additional measly $50M/year of funding for Pharmac, but yet billions and billions for Labour’s other pet projects) said to the Newshub reporter “F… you Grant Robertson”!
    
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/05/anger-f-bomb-thrown-around-as-advocates-react-to-pharmac-s-budget-2021-boost.html
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/05/budget-2021-pharmac-got-what-it-was-promised-grant-robertson.html
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:05am
  - Tall Man
    
    ardern would have had very little input into the budget.
    
    I would imagine robertson and hipkins gave her a teddy bear and sent her off to play while the big people made the decisions.
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:21am
    - graham
      
      Ha … that’s the exact image that kept coming to mind when she was jaunting around the world pre-Covid. I could just see the other world leaders thinking, just grab the teddy bear and go off with Neve and enjoy yourself while the adults get on with it.
      
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      May 25, 2021 10:51am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  If you want to really harm a group, train them to believe that they have no agency and that their problems are the fault of some scapegoat.
  
  That way, they will never try to help themselves.
  
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  May 25, 2021 10:45am
Maggie Pie

Imagine… living out West AND having to rely on public transport 🙁

https://twitter.com/1NewsNZ/status/1396697988278341632

Just saying.
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May 25, 2021 8:14am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I realise we need public transport. But most buses I see in Christchurch only have a few passengers. The cost per passenger must be staggering.
  
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  May 25, 2021 8:23am
  - Frank the tank
    
    There is an easy answer to that – take vehicle allowances away from beneficiaries and force them to use the bus as they are trying to do with tax-paying residents. There would be exceptions for rural folk etc however imagine the howls of rage if the gangs missus’ had to catch the bus.
    
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    May 25, 2021 8:45am
    - Muttonbird
      
      ? The benes on the bus sing, “gimme, gimme, gimme”, all day long. ?
      
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      May 25, 2021 12:18pm
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    May be Lianne can slap a car tax?
    
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    May 25, 2021 8:49am
  - Thought Criminal
    
    It takes me five minutes to walk to the pub on Friday night. But it takes me fifteen minutes to walk home.
    
    The difference is staggering.
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:18am
    - David Garrett
      
      Thought: Very droll Sir…very droll…
      
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      May 25, 2021 2:47pm
      - Thought Criminal
        
        You loved it David Garrett 😉
        
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        May 25, 2021 10:56pm
  - cmm
    
    The CO2 per passenger is pretty high too.
    
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    May 25, 2021 12:42pm
  - TWEEDSE
    
    Most buses I see in Auckland are completely empty bar the driver.
    
    Luckily the council has declared a climate emergency to distract from driving round empty busses belching CO2.
    
    It takes a special kind of stupid to work at Auckland Council.
    
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    May 25, 2021 5:05pm
- BeeJay
  
  Maggs, don’t fall off your bike on the way to work, but I gave you an uptick this morning!
  Just saying.
  
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  May 25, 2021 8:26am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Thnx hon!
    
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    May 25, 2021 8:36am
Benedict Yu

I admit that I had never heard of this new governor general. But her past comments indicate some odd thought processes.

Surely property owners have an absolute right to be protected from graffiti?

http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/345486/Kiro-must-go-for-tagging-stance

“Moving forward I believe solutions [to graffiti] need to appropriately balance the rights of property owners and the rights of children and young people;…”
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May 25, 2021 8:18am
- Tomtoddy
  
  She qualifies as an ardent tourist. She made 8 overseas jaunts in 12 months at your expense as Child Commissioner.
  
  However she fits well with Jacinda and co on being loose with the truth- she made up child mortality figures, exaggerating the numbers and eventually had to back down.
  
  A “class act” not.
  
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  May 25, 2021 8:41am
  - Paulus
    
    As a matter of fact how much more are the children of this Country better after Ms Kiro’s role as Children’s Commissioner.
    Cindy is Minister for Children, and making a rotten fist of it.
    The present one is trying to do better as well but !
    
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    May 25, 2021 8:47am
    - alwyn
      
      “… how much more are the children of this Country better after Ms Kiro’s role …”
      After reading the sentence containing this carefully I am able to answer “much better”.
      That is of course agreeing that they were much better off “after” she had the job than “while” she had the job.
      
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      May 25, 2021 1:34pm
  - lastmanstanding
    
    Will we ever see another Bloke as GG. I think not.
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:43am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      It’s a while since we had a bloke who wasn’t of Maori or Indian descent, that’s for sure!
      
      And to clarify, this comment is in no way meant to disrespect either Sir Jerry Mateparae or Sir Anand Satyanand, both of whom were excellent in the role, serving with considerable distinction.
      
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      May 25, 2021 10:18am
    - Nickc2
      
      Not unless he wears a dress, high heels and false tits.
      The sheilas have pretty well got this spot to themselves now diversity, inclusiveness and separatism have taken over at their insistence.
      
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      May 25, 2021 12:25pm
    - Paulus
      
      No, because we will be a Republic before then so no GG.
      President Ardern.
      
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      May 25, 2021 1:41pm
    - tf78
      
      Shouldn’t it be “Governess General”?!
      
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      May 25, 2021 4:21pm
    - doggone7
      
      If they’re evening things out get used to it, it’s going to be a long innings.
      
      My maths might be crook but by my reckoning we should expect the next old white male to be appointed in 2113. That’s when break even will happen.
      
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      May 25, 2021 9:21pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Child Commissioner is another position that is a total waste of tax payer funds and should be eliminated.
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:55am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Same for race relations commissioner.
      
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      May 25, 2021 1:48pm
- Frank the tank
  
  A republican plant. The Blairite made sure to indicate her desire to be a republic in announcing this stooge.
  
  What will be interesting is if Kiro sticks to the brief of GGs or goes off the reservation with some of her historical judicial activism.
  
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  May 25, 2021 8:48am
  - Batman
    
    Kiri said very carefully and clearly that she intended to serve as the sovereigns representative and carry out those duties faithfully.
    
    Watching the press conference would help a lot of people who seems to be leaping to wild theories.
    
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    May 25, 2021 8:53am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Cindy Kiro handled the questions with professional good grace; Our PM was an embarrassment.
      It is not the time to refer to a Republic when introducing the new GG.
      
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      May 25, 2021 8:58am
      - DeepBlue
        
        I was embarrassed for our country over that comment by Jacinda. Why can’t she just stand up to them and say to the journalist ‘ that question is not one for the day we introduce our new GG’?
        
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        May 25, 2021 9:49am
      - Jack5
        
        Yep, Jacindarella is Deep Red, and whoever heard of a Communist Monarchy?
        
        Apart from: Sihanouk remained figurehead monarch for a year or so under Pol Pot; perhaps the Grenada Marxists hadn’t finalised dropping allegiance to the Queen before the Americans invaded.
        
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        May 25, 2021 10:44am
      - surfing
        
        That was odd.
        
        But, Jacinda has put us on the path to He pua pua, and, a co-governance republic is inevitable.
        
        It may be an idea to give up the north island to maori completely and turn New zealand into 2 separate nations…co governance will never work because one side will always want more.
        
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        May 25, 2021 11:35am
      - oldfella
        
        Maggy, Karl du Fresne has a good piece on the new GG.
        http://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2021/05/on-cindy-kiro.html
        
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        May 25, 2021 12:52pm
      - Paulus
        
        Cindy was just warming us up to Republicanism -its what we want remember !
        
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        May 25, 2021 1:43pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Words and actions are not always on the same page Batman.
      
      I base my judgements on previous actions and events but am prepared to alter those opinions should newer info come to hand,
      
      At the moment I’ll stick with my previous opinion until proven wrong.
      
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      May 25, 2021 9:19am
    - Mr_Blobby
      
      A leopard does not change its spots.
      
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      May 25, 2021 11:31am
    - Keith White
      
      Trust a proven-lying, serial tax-thieving trougher? Truly a BM moment.
      
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      May 25, 2021 12:46pm
      - Batman
        
        Yeah you’re gonna need to back those claims up Keith, if you are talking about Kiro.
        
        I was in no way defending the PM
        
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        May 25, 2021 1:27pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    My money is on B Frank
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:33am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    “Historical judicial activism”?
    
    Dame Cindy completed a degree in social work, and most of her work career has been in public health. I’m not aware she was ever a judge. As Children’s Commissioner however, her brief WAS to advocate in the best interests of children!
    
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    May 25, 2021 10:21am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Hopelessly unqualified for GG.
      
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      May 25, 2021 11:16am
- Maggie Pie
  
  My partner just remined me about this guy.
  He was only protecting his property from graffiti.
  I’m sure it made a lot of ‘taggers’ think twice.
  In fact we hardly ever see it these days around here.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/1399650/Emery-jailed-for-killing-tagger
  
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  May 25, 2021 8:53am
  - Muttonbird
    
    Emery chased after them armed with a 13cm knife. The Crown said Emery was an angry man whose property had been repeatedly tagged and decided to take the law into his own hands.
    
    Pretty sure the law doesn’t say you can stab to death someone writing on your walls.
    
    Basically chased them down and committed murder but got away with it. White privilege in action right there.
    
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    May 25, 2021 12:25pm
    - David Garrett
      
      Mutton: Ah, no…having been tormented and mocked by these little bastards tagging his property for weeks, he lost his rag, picked up a knife, and chased said little bastards down a cult de sac…in the ensuing confrontation one of the said little bastards (actually literally; they were never able to find a father) got stabbed and died. A jury of his peers found Emery guilty of Manslaughter, and he served a prison sentence. Quite a different story from yours…I would elaborate more if I wasn’t on my phone (fat fingers dont work so well on phones)
      
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      May 25, 2021 2:57pm
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Unlike the little shit-kickers who also took the law into their own hands (oooh, look! I can do some basic html too!) by tagging someone’s property repeatedly? Got away with it too, didn’t they? Brown privilege in action right there.
      
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      May 25, 2021 5:08pm
  - Keith White
    
    ‘Interesting’ that one of the family are threatening old-fashioned utu – via fingernails to the guy’s eyes.
    
    Usually, that part of society are really angry that when one of them is sentenced, the sentence is too harsh…
    
    Circumstances alter perspectives.
    
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    May 25, 2021 12:51pm
- JackRabbit
  
  She knows not what she says, just nice warm fuzzies to appease everyone. So unless those children and young people ARE property owners, she is conveying the message that she has no respect for property rights and good law. Her and Jacinda, are two peas in a socialist pod.
  
  I wonder if she would still be so nice to those children and young people if they had tagged her house with glaringly rude obscenities. One thing you can observe about socialists, is that they can take a stance on an issue or law, until they feel the heat and their viewpoint changes. They act based on what is best for them, not what is right.
  
  Same game with Jacinda wanting to change the election donation laws, as a response to the SFO investigation into Labour donations. They act based on what is best for them, not what is right.
  
  Let’s ban gas and oil exploration, plastic bags. Let’s increase tax on fuel, but we have said no new taxes or tax increases in our first. Brilliant, we’ll call it a levy.
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:05am
- Ruahine
  
  That means that the scumbags are not scribbling on her house or car.
  
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  May 25, 2021 10:22am
Mike

Happy Towel Day!
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May 25, 2021 8:21am
- Tall Man
  
  I wonder why some posters feel the need to have multiple accounts with Kiwiblog…….
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:16am
  - JackRabbit
    
    Multiple personas as a result of not being happy with, or sure of, who he really is, or what his values are. Also a way of hiding his eclectic ideas. If he presented all his/her/its ideas under one profile, he would be contradicting himself, but he still manages to do that anyway.
    
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    May 25, 2021 10:12am
    - Tall Man
      
      I think he just needs the occasional uptick but has to do it himself…
      
      I wonder if there’s a word for that…….
      
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      May 25, 2021 12:30pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Our PM needs to have a chat with her Minister of Education.

Ms Ardern was wrong when she asserted that White Privilege does not appear anywhere in the NZ Education Curriculum.

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2105/S00211/pm-in-la-la-land-on-white-privilege.htm
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May 25, 2021 8:21am
- pdm
  
  Is that Part Time Minister – Hipkins?
  
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  May 25, 2021 8:45am
- Hacked-Off
  
  Yes quite – I have just finished reading Te Hurihangi this weekend. It is only a 16 page document but it is full of claims of colonialism, racism, white privilege and discrimination as the only reasons for Maori education failings. The solution, according to the document, is for Maori Iwi, Hapu and Whanau to become involved and often in charge of the education – not only of Maori but also of non-Maori so as to obtain ‘equitable and successful outcomes.
  
  However I would not that Te Hurihangi is all about realising Maori power in Education, and nothing about education initiatives to help Maori improve in education. This includes the need to look inwards to access what maori are doing wrong themselves and this is sadly lacking. All this document does, if enacted, will be declining standards of education not only for Maori but for all New Zealand children. God help us.
  
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  May 25, 2021 8:54am
  - stewmar
    
    Where I live in the far north the streets are littered with maori kids during the day who are wagging school so how does that help maori education.
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:12am
  - Tall Man
    
    You would think that a school with predominantly maori kids would have a significant number of maori parents already on the BoT so why isn’t their input into the school already happening……
    
    You would think that wouldn’t you?
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:13am
  - MCos
    
    Would that be Te Hurihanganui?
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:45am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    I say this Government and some of its supporters have an agenda to divide the population on race.
    The ToW was NOT a partnership. Queen Vicky didnt do partnerships in 1840. What she did was offer Johnny Foreigner the opportunity to become a British subject with all the rights and responsilities that entailed in return for governing and defending Johnny Forigner from other forces like in this case the French.
    
    The Maori Chiefs decided they had a better chance with the Poms than the French who would have slaughtered them and taking their land.
    They knew the Poms from previous dealings.
    
    All this attempt to rewrite history is Bull Shit and thinking people of all races should be calling it out like I am and saying we want the Government to unite us NOT divide us.
    The agenda is to have a Maori Parliament in place by 2040 200 years after the ToW.
    This Parliament will have the final say on our laws.
    We can see the pattern with the Maori Health Authority that will have a veto.
    So the Maori Elites and a few White Liberals will rule the population and tax and spend on themselves and their supporters and amke sure Whitey stays well in their place.
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:52am
    - Mike
      
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      You complain about ‘rewriting history’ while presenting a woefully inaccurate story about the treaty.
      
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      May 25, 2021 10:29am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        Were you there?
        These stupid activists are going to bring about a wild revolt. They cannot take NZ back again. Nor can we swap timezones to 1840 with a very bloody situation arising once more.
        Maori needed protection themselves. They weren’t one family but each fought for their own patch and another’s if they could get it. Those old battles are still remembered and some are itching to continue.
        Our collective ignorance and socialist positioning is leading to deceit.
        
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        May 25, 2021 11:26am
    - JackRabbit
      
      This is all happening because Cindy wants to sever ties with the Monarchy. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
      
      She has established herself as a tyrant, unilaterally passing laws without going through parliament. As a tyrant, she must have absolute power, and her ego will not let her have anyone to answer to. At the moment that is the British Monarchy.
      
      She stumbled over her oath of allegiance to the Queen. She has stated she wants to change NZ into a republic which requires severing ties with the Monarchy. She has also put power in the hands of the supreme court in preference to UK privy council.
      
      Her two last major final acts to severing ties with the monarchy are:
      [1] Redefining The Treaty of Waitangi as a partnership, not as subjects of Great British. This makes it easy as she will claim “NZ is dissolving the partnership with the UK.”
      
      [2] She will bide her time until The Queen dies. Cindy would not have attempted pulling out of the Commonwealth while the Queen is alive. Much easier to pull out when the “old fogies” who value tradition and principles are in the ground. This includes Prince Philip who was the Queens rock.
      The woke and semi-woke monarchy figures with less connection to history, will not object.
      
      She will have all this planned.
      
      An now, Prince Philip has scarcely been in the ground for 5 weeks, and Cindy has renewed her intention for NZ to become a republic.
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jacinda-ardern-believes-new-zealand-will-become-a-republic-in-her-lifetime/362XBOZCWKWZMIVGFDMLNF2RZM/
      
      Cindy cannot stand being accountable. Not to any type of God, the monarchy, a set of rational principles or values, definitely not the people of NZ, and definitely not herself.
      
      Mankind falls of the track and deviates into darkness when it does not have something greater than itself to be accountable to.
      
      Who she is accountable to, no-one knows.
      
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      May 25, 2021 10:43am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        Ardern believes she is ruler indeed.
        
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        May 25, 2021 11:27am
  - surfing
    
    Any young family should seriously consider Australia. Your kids will be bombarded with the message that they are the evil oppressor of maori and that they must make amends.
    
    The future really does belong to maori here.
    
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    May 25, 2021 11:38am
    - cmm
      
      I’m not too sure there.
      
      I watches a scientific lecture on Youtube a few days back. At the start the speaker spent a minute or two yammering on about recognizing the original custodians of the land the university is on etc.
      
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      May 25, 2021 12:47pm
  - Paulus
    
    How many Maori children do not attend any form of School ?
    I understand that Education Dept have figures.
    
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    May 25, 2021 1:46pm
- Oskar
  
  Looking at what Victoria University teaches its trainee teachers there is this (https://www.wgtn.ac.nz/education/teacher-education)
  Te Waharoa frames our vision for transformative initial teacher education in which graduates are agents of change for teaching, learning and wellbeing. Graduates work from a commitment to Te Tiriti o Waitangi, and social, cultural and ecological justice, to enable learners to transform their complex, diverse and changing worlds.
  
  To support this vision, initial teacher education programmes:
  
  incorporate Māori worldviews, emphasise criticality, and insist on depth of knowledge (mātauranga)
  are culturally located and place-based (te mana o te whenua)
  build and sustain te reo and tikanga (te reo me ngā tikanga)
  foster tangata whenua and tangata Tiriti identities and aspirations, including those of Pacific and migrant communities (tangatarua)
  promote inclusion, relationality, and collective success (whanaungatanga)
  enhance the spirit of education (wairua), including creative and embodied learning
  
  And moving along to the next page on preparing for teacher education (https://www.wgtn.ac.nz/education/teacher-education/prepare-for-teacher-education) there is again a heavy emphasis on things Maori as well as things like science knowledge and maths etc.
  With limited time available all this emphasis on Maori related issues must start crowding out other topics.
  
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  May 25, 2021 8:57am
  - Tall Man
    
    What a bunch of meaningless waffle.
    
    No wonder our kids are struggling to learn to read and count.
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:14am
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    I was brought up in Matamata and learnt a bit about the legacy of Te Waharoa. He was a blood thirsty Ngati Haua chief. His tribe gave the Arawa people of Rotorua all kinds of trouble. His son Wiremu Tarapipipi Tamihana (also known as William Thompson) achieved fame as the Kingmaker, after he had embraced the Christian religion. Tamihana was able to learn from the mistakes of his father.
    I think the legacy of Te Waharoa is something that is best not spoken about. But I imagine that the gifted intellectuals of the Victoria University of Wellington would not know where Waharoa is, nor would have ever heard of Te Waharoa.
    
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    May 25, 2021 10:06am
  - Jack5
    
    Meanwhile we have teachers ignorant of mathematics and education standards fall on international standards.
    
    Ardernism is neo-apartheid!
    
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    May 25, 2021 10:49am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    It crowds out life. Underneath, this is propped up on Maori spirits. The use of their language hides a lot.
    
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    May 25, 2021 11:33am
  - surfing
    
    This all reads like nonsense to me.
    
    Elevating maori as a special people who are ‘more equal’ seems like authorities are sewing the early seeds of fascism.
    
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    May 25, 2021 11:43am
  - Observer of Life
    
    It’s similar bullshit in Nursing.
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:21pm
- Yabster
  
  no surprise there Cindy is la la fullstop.
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:05am
- Fidel Cashflow
  
  These people are vile. What is it going to do for the mental health of White kids who will be coerced and humiliated into atoning for the imagined sins of their ancestors? All races at all times in history have committed wrongs, because we are all fallible humans. But the victimhood status of those who claim purity and innocence goes out the window very quickly when this is acknowledged.
  
  That f—ing idiot on the 9th floor talks a good game about caring for children, yet in addition to this, she has already loaded the young and the unborn with massive debt before they even get a chance. Maybe she should acknowledge her own White privilege and step aside for a brown person. But they never do, do they.
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:05am
  - JackRabbit
    
    Typical Chardonnay socialist. Preach values that they themselves do not live by. As you say, she has loaded future generations with debt so that she can enjoy her power and “White privilege”.
    
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    May 25, 2021 11:00am
- septic skeptic
  
  La-la-liar?
  
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  May 25, 2021 10:00am
hullkiwi

As discussed on RNZ Moaning Report, Dave Moffat (former Chief Exec of the NZRU) & others have put forward a 3rd proposition for NZ Rugby’s future.

Now that there are two sensible proposals on the table, let us hope that the provincial unions & the current NZRU exec will stop looking at the rotten deal that the Silver Lake proposition is. Offerings such as the Silver Lake deal is, are false promises based on exploitation of a brand without bringing anything to the table other than initial pieces of silver.

For my money the co-operative deal suggested is the best deal, as it ensures NZ rugby remains in the ownership of New Zealanders, while raising the necessary capital.
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May 25, 2021 8:22am
- amospicton
  
  If you sell 12.5% of something you retain control and 87.5% ownership. Silverlake bring more than just money to the table.
  
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  May 25, 2021 8:52am
  - Tall Man
    
    Rubbish.
    
    He who controls the purse controls the company.
    
    When the income is filtered through them they get to call the shots.
    
    I have seen it many times when a minority shareholder who is also a large customer gains control by proxy.
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:08am
  - hullkiwi
    
    No they don’t. That is the point, the Players Union and now Moffat are making.
    
    1. The only way Silver Lake will make their return is via either exploiting the players for more “All Black” game time or higher prices. Both of which will kill the product.
    2. Claims that Silver Lake will provide exposure to other markets, are just that claims, not born out by their other investments. The markets for the teams they have invested in already existed and have not provided the levels of returns claimed.
    3. How do the ongoing revenues of the All Black’s leaving NZ help NZ Rugby?
    4. What happens if Silver Lake do not receive the level of returns in forecasted and as per the contract. Having had experience of working with private equity, it will not be a case of bad luck Silver Lake, there will be fish hooks in the deal to ensure that returns to Silver Lake are guaranteed.
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:19am
    - Sacha
      
      Rugby Union is deluded. Does it really think that Silver Lake is in it for the love of the game? Of course not, it’s all about milking the cow for all the dollars it can.
      Actually, they’d probably make more if they invested in Fonterra.
      
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      May 25, 2021 10:46am
    - amospicton
      
      The point is that 87.5% of the current plus the SilverLake cash exceeds the status quo or the alternatives. The SilverLake people aren’t stupid – even if they had the amount of control to dictate terms they would not want to kill the golden goose. That makes zero commercial sense. If they get a good return we all win. None of the other options achieve anything except locking in our small minded fear of the outside world. They bring nothing at all to the table.
      
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      May 25, 2021 10:56am
    - trout
      
      Apropos of which Silver Lake propose to take their cut of revenue BEFORE expenses; this looks like ‘ticket clipping’, not profit sharing.
      
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      May 25, 2021 11:06am
    - amospicton
      
      1. Not necessarily true – reaching a larger market, better merchandise sales etc.
      2. That’s the risk SilverLake are taking. You’re assuming they’re idiots – they’re not.
      3. 87.5% of a larger pie could easily exceed 100% of the current pie. Plus we get their $300m or whatever it is.
      4. We don’t know those details but you’re assuming the rugby union and all the provincial unions are naive and have doing a dumb deal. That’s possible I guess.
      
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      May 25, 2021 11:27am
  - Pharmachick
    
    See Manchester United/Glazers in the EPL as a precautionary tale.
    
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    May 25, 2021 11:01am
    - amospicton
      
      The Glasers have control at Man U – 12.5% is not even remotely close to control. We get their loot, their expertise and keep 87.5% of the profits. Win/win/win. Remember ALL the local unions support that deal. Are they all trying to destroy NZ rugby as well? All of them?
      
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      May 25, 2021 11:15am
      - Pharmachick
        
        The Glazers originally had <10%, they took control in a hostile, leveraged takeover, saddling the club with hundreds of millions of pounds of debt, while taking billions. Old Trafford could do with some TLC as well these days. Malcolm Glazer's original promise was a minority stake, for an injection of cash and revenue sharing… sound at all familiar? NZRU should be very, very careful. FSG was marginally more honest with Liverpool, not yet lost the Kop entirely. And BTW, I am tribal Liverpool, to be in anyway defending Man U fans, should be all you need to know.
        
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        May 25, 2021 12:04pm
    - JimBobJoe
      
      Long may the Glaziers bleed Man U I say
      
      YNWA
      
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      May 25, 2021 12:53pm
    - amospicton
      
      Meant to reply not report Pharmachick. I’m Liverpool too – seem to have done really well under FSG cf the dry years prior. Can’t see why NZ Rugby would ever be a forced seller to SilverLake.
      
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      May 25, 2021 12:59pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        No worries Amos. And @JimBobJoe… LOL, but the Glazers and FSG were really pushing for the *stupid* super league and I Balme that for a lot of sh*t. German model 50+1 would be preferable, also the horse has bolted.
        
        I’ll share this as you both (and bikkie and plc) might be interested: my father has a pic from 1981 (you know the old square photographs with rounded corners) of me at Anfield, the trophy cabinet is open and I am sticky-fingering the League Cup (I was 4). No, I don’t know, recall or even imagine how that is/was possible.
        
        Also, I have a cousin with the initials SG, used to be quite the footballer. Decamped to Scotland a while back, turns out he’s quite the gaffer as well.
        
        Tribal Liverpool.
        
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        May 25, 2021 2:00pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  I thought Silverlake was a Chinese owned meat processing coy.
  Better call Robbo, Min of Sports. If we can bail out Team NZ we surely can care for our All Blacks.
  
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  May 25, 2021 11:39am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Try Silver Fern
    
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    May 25, 2021 1:22pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      OK. Thanks.
      
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      May 25, 2021 1:43pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Nanaia Mahuta warns of a coming storm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/25/a-matter-of-time-new-zealands-foreign-minister-warns-china-storm-could-be-coming
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May 25, 2021 8:27am
- BeeJay
  
  Mahuta really shouldn’t make any comments, she knows f… all about anything!
  
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  May 25, 2021 8:56am
  - stewmar
    
    Im sure her speeches are written for her by ‘officials’
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:14am
    - Paulus
      
      Doubt if she can write a speech – not in Maori written Ngaruwahia in Te Reo either.
      
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      May 25, 2021 1:54pm
  - Brian McDonald
    
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    And you do by contributing a generalisation using a fake name to make an insult. You show your own knowledge is questionable.
    She is doing well in a tricky situation. China needs relationships and room to move in a world economy. The Minister is speaking straight and clearly.
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:20am
    - Yabster
      
      straight and clear? all Taniwhas and dragons – really clear…
      
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      May 25, 2021 9:36am
      - Brian McDonald
        
        Glad you can understand it Yabster.
        
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        May 25, 2021 9:52am
      - Jack5
        
        Brian McDonald trots out his criticism of pseudonyms.
        
        To validate this viewpoint, Brian McD, how about telling us which of New Zealand’s Brian McDonalds you are?
        
        [Mod: Brian posts under his name, and most readers already know who he is. Leave it there please]
        
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        May 25, 2021 10:52am
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Brian, I beg to differ that she is doing well. Firstly, she made no real response condemning China with our Five Eyes partners. I was going to say she made no response. But she did, “When I think about this relationship… I liken it to the respect a taniwha would have for a dragon and vice versa, Taniwha are endemic to Aotearoa but can trace their whakapapa across the vast expanse of the Pacific Ocean – Te Moana nui a Kiwa. Taniwha are protectors or guardians, often of water, and hold dominion over rivers, seas, lands and territories.
      
      Deeply steeped in culture, they are spiritual and one with nature. They symbolise a sense of guardianship for our people and our land and a strong belief in self. And like the dragon, they are powerful, auspicious, and embedded in our epistemology. They have many forms, and are a symbol of leadership, prestige and strength, and are to be revered.
      
      We are two peoples – with characteristics and symbolism unique to our respective countries.
      
      I see the taniwha and the dragon as symbols of the strength of our particular customs, traditions and values, that aren’t always the same, but need to be maintained and respected.
      
      And on that virtue we have together developed the mature relationship we have today.”
      
      Our Foreign Minister blathered on about dragons and taniwhas! What the hell planet is she on? Foreign Policy isn’t decided by fairy tales of mystic animals. Aside from spending a inordinate amount of time in parliament being entirely inept, she should have been sacked on the spot for this drivel.
      
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      May 25, 2021 9:46am
      - Brian McDonald
        
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        Thanks Vino I had not read that before. Respecting the Dragon is symbolic as is respecting the Taniwha, it may have meant nothing to you but it respected 2 cultures. China did not object to it or mock it and that is the point of diplomacy even if ain’t ol English. chum and if NZ becomes a conduit for better relations and conveying human rights concerns so be it.
        
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        May 25, 2021 10:29am
      - Tall Man
        
        https://flipboard.com/article/china-heaps-praise-on-nanaia-mahuta-s-remarkable-five-eyes-comments/f-446de3a51c%2Fco.nz
        
        And we should be proud that China is happy with her………. Not me sunshine.
        
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        May 25, 2021 10:35am
      - In Vino Veritas
        
        Brian, fairy tale symbolism has no place in Foreign affairs. Particularly here in NZ, where the Taniwha has no relevance to 83% of NZ’s population. For instance, the to me, the Taniwha is abject nonsense.
        And of course China did not mock it, they have a vested interest in not mocking it! However, many in our five eyes ALLIES countries did.
        
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        May 25, 2021 10:47am
      - Jack5
        
        Do the remote and backward hill tribes of Taiwan that are the genetic ancestors of Maori pay obeisance to dragons?
        
        Or are dragons part of the tradition of the Han Chinese who made Taiwan into a technology power house?
        
        Tell us, Brian, how Taiwan’s Chinese respected the hill tribes’ culture, how they enhance it?
        
        Chinese assimilation of Taiwan’s indigenous people:
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_indigenous_peoples
        
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        May 25, 2021 10:56am
      - rockape
        
        Maori and their taniwha should remember St George slew the dragon.
        
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        May 25, 2021 11:19am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        Pagan.
        
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        May 25, 2021 11:40am
- Brian McDonald
  
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  A weak link by pursuing New Zealand’s interests? Another mind reader who not only knows how a person thinks but a whole country does.
  “Right now, China will be delighted with us because they will see us as the weak link in the Five Eyes,” Gillespie said. “For a country like New Zealand to steer away from that words like genocide when the other countries use it, symbolically, it’s important.”
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:24am
- Swifty
  
  A cheap shot, I know, but I’ll make it anyway – the irony of being lectured on diversification by Mahuta, who has specialised in only one thing her entire working life; extracting cash and a lifestyle from the public purse via public service roles.
  
  She’s only had one product, herself, and one customer, the taxpayer, her entire life!
  
  How much diversification have you ever done Nanaia?
  
  The arrogance of these people astounds me.
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:56am
- Sacha
  
  And she’s just the girl to help it along –
  
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  May 25, 2021 10:47am
Simon

The Maori Health Authority will solve the systemic racism in the existing health system and Maori health outcomes will improve to match other racial groups in society.

Is there a timeline on this wankery? When the Maori Victimhood Authority has proven not to improve health outcomes for anyone and is a giant expensive exercise in stupidity.

You are a fat clown heading towards type 2 diabetes because of your life style choices. Not because you are a victim of racism.
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May 25, 2021 8:29am
- stewmar
  
  Maori health outcomes will improve when maori stop smoking, stop drinking several 2 litre fizzy drinks per day, stop using meth, get a job, stop eating takeaways every day and start taking responsibility for themselves.
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:16am
  - Tall Man
    
    Most maori already do those things you suggest. There is a small but highly visible group that continue their poor health way but they are significant drain on our health system for sure.
    
    I have no issue for a separate health authority but they only get a percentage of what they attract. ie, if all maori sign up then they get 16% of the health budget and the rest of us New Zealanders get the 84% remaining. If only 50% of “maori” sign up then they get 8% and so on …..
    
    Let’s see who does what at that point.
    
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    May 25, 2021 10:31am
    - Yabster
      
      how about they get what they net contribute- no problem with that at all……
      
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      May 25, 2021 11:37am
  - Paulus
    
    Saw young Maori woman in supermarket yesterday morning and she put four large fizzies in her trolley first.
    Yes, really as they were on special.
    
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    May 25, 2021 1:58pm
    - Batman
      
      I thought the left were meant to be the officious busy body food police?
      
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      May 25, 2021 2:09pm
Benedict Yu

I wonder if he feels embarrassed 13 years later.

http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/greens-10-litre-petrol-prices-decade-wake-call/5/1156
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May 25, 2021 8:29am
- Tall Man
  
  Of course not. He’s got his head buried in another trough so wouldn’t have time to reflect on his previous stupidity.
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:07am
- hullkiwi
  
  Benedict, in fairness to Gormless Norman, at the time the price for a barrel of oil was rocketing away and pked at USD140 per barrel in mind 2008. Then the GFC struck, and as they say the rest is history…
  
  At the time, the media in London would do their favourite trick of interviewing equally gormless “Energy Analysts”, who were happy to make predictions of USD200/barrel on the basis of who knows what.
  
  Thirteen years on, very little has changed, commodity prices remain volatile because of gormless analysts and traders. Over the past decade we’ve seen the price of oil rise because of the Syrian civil war, only to fall when the analysts realise Syria does not export much oil of any significance for instance. The reason for all this, and despite a supposedly better informed world, many are no better informed today, than those in 1987 or 2008.
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:09am
Maggie Pie

REFUND the Police?

48 shot, 10 fatally, after the bloodiest weekend in Lori Lightfoot’s (D) Chicago!

She would have been better to declare War-on-Crime than White journalists.

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1396922169217671173

(CAUTION: Swallow coffee B4 clicking link)
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May 25, 2021 8:35am
- kowtow
  
  The vast majority of that will be black on black .
  
  BLM ?
  
  Where’s the ‘outrage’.
  
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  May 25, 2021 8:43am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Yes, reading the comments confirms it was all B-on-B
    
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    May 25, 2021 8:59am
Maggy Wassilieff

Christchurch City Council plays the “Hide the report” game…

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/exasperated-ex-mayor-dishes-on-secret-report
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May 25, 2021 8:38am
Than

A common assertion from rail-advocates is that a direct rail link to the airport is something all modern cities have. Based on my own travel experience I’ve always been highly sceptical of this claim. So, being bored and having a free evening, I decided to objectively fact check it.

The methodology here is pretty straight-forward. Start with lists of the largest metro areas of the USA, and Europe. (I initially included Asia in this analysis, but given the smallest city on that list was 4 million people it didn’t seem an Apples and Apples comparison). Paste into an Excel spreadsheet. For each city, have a quick google whether it has an airport rail link. This most often gives a clear yes/no answer, but I did give half marks for some “almost” cases. For example; Los Angeles doesn’t have a direct rail link, but there is a free shuttle bus from the closest rail terminal on the Green Line, so I gave that a half mark.

After going through the list, the result was;

– Of the largest 50 metro areas in the USA, 14 have a direct rail link to the airport, with another 5 getting half marks. The remaining 31 have no rail link to their airport (and in most cases essentially have no local rail system, period).

– The situation in Europe is less clear-cut. Of the largest 50 metro areas in Europe (including Russia), only about 11 have rail to the airport in the sense of a station actually at the airport itself. However the vast majority have a local rail station close to the airport, and often with a free connecting shuttle. To me I wouldn’t count these situations as an airport rail link, but I guess you could.

– Oceania has 2 major cities with airport rail links (Sydney, Brisbane), and 3 cities of comparable size which don’t (Melbourne, Perth, Auckland).
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May 25, 2021 8:47am
- stewmar
  
  Perth does
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:18am
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    My googling said there was a rail link under construction, but not open yet. But OK, let’s call Perth a yes.
    
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    May 25, 2021 10:37am
- MCos
  
  You’ll be interested to know that come July a shuttle bus will connect Puhinui station to Auckland Airport.
  I would suggest for people going from the CBD this will be a somewhat quicker option than a light rail via Dominion Rd.
  Having said that I would say the latter won’t be used by many people to access the airport anyway.
  BTW
  I used the Bangkok Airport Link to go home after work. It was chokka, but from my observation most people were commuters. The problem is, as I found out when I caught it at the airport, one can only easily carry two bags, particularly up and down escalators.
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:31am
  - DeepBlue
    
    This should work depending on price and frequency of train connection. People might wait 10 minutes but not 30 at Puhinui.
    
    Also once you have 2 or more travelling it is often cheaper, and more convenient, to use door to door taxi/Uber.
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:59am
    - Paulus
      
      I still like the Auckland City Airport bus first !
      
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      May 25, 2021 2:01pm
  - Tall Man
    
    It ain’t the escalators that are the problem, it’s those fucking massive flights of stairs ……..
    
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    May 25, 2021 10:27am
    - MCos
      
      I was in London & Paris with a couple of my sisters about five years ago.
      We each had one 3/4 size suitcase to lug around. That’s when you notice stairs/escalators in the subways. The London tube stations we used had no stairs whereas the French ones had multiple short flights.
      However in Paris some gentleman always offered to carry the ladies’ bags. Every time. People always gave them their seats as well.
      No such chivalry in London!
      On the London buses if we asked someone directions to somewhere several people would respond.
      
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      May 25, 2021 2:38pm
- Ehlana
  
  Actually Than, public transport advocates often do not advocate for rail from the CBD to the airport, because it is a solution that serves very few people. Most people don’t fly very often, nor do they live in the CBD. What they actually need and want is a city-wide transport network that gets them from home to school, work, shopping and recreation.
  A good network will include the airport, because many people work there and because a good connection (like a bus to the nearest public transport hub) also serves tourists and business travelers.
  
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  May 25, 2021 10:51am
  - Than
    
    Sure, I can imagine serious public transport experts wouldn’t consider a CBD-airport link particularly essential, for exactly those reasons.
    
    But left-leaning commenters on political blogs frequently make the assertion that CBD-airport light rail is something most cities have. That would be who I was referring to when I said “rail advocates”.
    
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    May 25, 2021 12:01pm
  - cmm
    
    The purpose is not to serve people.
    
    The purpose is to showcase your awesomeness and virtue to the world.
    
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    May 25, 2021 12:54pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      It goes further, it says your city is one of the leading cities in the world. Like that vox pop c**p that Len (pants down) Brown aspired to, i.e. “the world’s most liveable city”.
      
      It is and always was utter bolloc*s.
      
      In Auckland, there is much bs about LRT to the airport why? If, LRT is your answer, you’ve asked the wrong question.
      
      Similarly, the dumb project of Airport to Botany (or A2B) is in the same vein, why?
      
      There is no justification for either project, other than political ego.
      
      Many of these projects are just that, political gesturing. Take the Heathrow Express, when it opened, it was more expensive per kilometre to travel on than Concorde and its patronage was also woeful.
      
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      May 25, 2021 1:37pm
kowtow

Across the west there have been numerous unprovoked racist attacks on Jewish people .

Where’s the Media Pardy outrage ?

We’d see it if the attacks had been on any other minority .
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May 25, 2021 8:47am
- Fidel Cashflow
  
  Got a link?
  
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  May 25, 2021 10:16am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Here’s the latest example; two visibly Jewish men attacked as they were leaving a kosher restaurant in London:
  
  https://twitter.com/israel_advocacy/status/1396880916157538307
  
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  May 25, 2021 11:23am
  - Fidel Cashflow
    
    No, I meant objective evidence. These two don’t look like someone attacked them last night.
    
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    May 25, 2021 11:47am
    - Fidel Cashflow
      
      Something like these. No doubt some Jews are targeted because they are Jewish and that should be condemned, but I don’t think this is a widespread phenomenon. On the other hand, Black hate crimes against Whites are far more prevalent. These just from the last week, but silence is the typical response.
      
      https://www.mebere.com/kidnapping-theft-and-murder-4-year-old-dallas-boy-darriynn-brown-arrested
      
      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/72-year-old-good-samaritan-nearly-beaten-death-stopping-help-black-teen-flat-tire/
      
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      May 25, 2021 11:59am
      - Tony Stuart
        
        Try this thread then, with a number of examples from recent days
        
        https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1395568951669796864
        
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        May 25, 2021 12:03pm
      - Fidel Cashflow
        
        This is mostly rhetoric against Jews, and is also distinguishable as being mostly politically motivated by the actions (whether real or perceived) of the Israelis, not simply for the mere fact of being Jewish. These examples are far less severe than the actual murder of a 4 year old child, and the actual near-fatal beating of a 72 year old. Sorry, but they don’t really compare.
        
        This post from Jon Miller, who is himself Black:
        
        https://twitter.com/MillerStream/status/1396127667259252741
        
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        May 25, 2021 12:20pm
Drone

As we approach the end of May 2021 with no word on when Group 3 will start to be vaccinated is it not time for the Government to admit they don’t actually have any vaccine and don’t have a plan. Or is it too much to expect honesty from Jacinda and Ashley…
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May 25, 2021 8:49am
- Tony Stuart
  
  In answer to your questions, yes, and yes!
  
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  May 25, 2021 8:54am
- notreadyet
  
  Heard Hopkins say in an interview that large stocks due in July, figure currently they just making a lot of noise to keep interest up and then things may actually start to happen in July, from memory he claimed they had to wait a bit to get the best vaccine
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:08am
- Brian McDonald
  
  To answer your question I checked out the Covid website mostly because I’ve had my first shot with the second due in just over a fortnight. I actually don’t live in the Manukau catchment, but when I experimented by pushing yes I was told I was in group 2 could be vaccinated now. When I push no, I become group 3 beginning at the end of May?
  Obviously living in Manukau which has been reported as a factor makes a difference because it is a higher risk and where you live is not.
  Perhaps algorithms in the computer system draw in over 65s from nearby districts which seems pretty sensible. I’m in and out of Manukau a fair bit for work.
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:40am
  - Tall Man
    
    So you jumped the queue.
    
    Nice to see you’re consistant.
    
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    May 25, 2021 10:26am
  - Brian McDonald
    
    Just an update the electoral boundary changes are the difference re the Manukau tick.
    
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    May 25, 2021 11:04am
BeeJay

Just love the Margaret Thatcher comment -“ the problem about Socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money” very relevant now, considering all of the socialist Labour MPs “coming out” in public!
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May 25, 2021 8:52am
- tf78
  
  BeeJay – U.S.S.R ring a bell.
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:40am
- Brian McDonald
  
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  Like when you are on super?
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:41am
  - Tall Man
    
    Like when you’re driving on roads that my tax dollars helped build, or when you’re watching ardern on the telly using power from a company that my tax dollars helped build.
    
    We were sold a line in the 70’s and 80’s that we would be “cared” for in our retirement if we paid high tax to help build NZ. Those high taxes prevented most low wage Kiwis from planning a retirement income through either savings or investment.
    
    I have explained this before but I guess numpties have an inssue with retention of knowledge.
    
    Lower taxes in the mid to late 80’s should have helped but were offset but extremely high interest rates and inflation eroding what savings people were accumulating.
    
    No government to date has rescinded that offer made by Muldoon and the National government although ardern seems to be making it plain that the elderly and retired asset “rich bastards” are to be the next target for her venom.
    
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    May 25, 2021 10:24am
    - Brian McDonald
      
      Don’t dream you’re the only taxpayer Tall Man try picking up Road User charges $870 odd for 2,ooo ks on an eight-wheeler and trailer extra. That would really give you something to moan about a few times a week.
      
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      May 25, 2021 11:09am
      - Tall Man
        
        “helped build” ……..
        
        Comprehension lacking?
        
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        May 25, 2021 12:32pm
      - cmm
        
        Hey Brian, I’d shut up if I were you.
        
        I’ll bet you have not paid enough tax to repay for your stays in prison, let alone any other services you have extracted from the state/taxpayer.
        
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        May 25, 2021 12:58pm
surfing

The Ryanair hijacking by Belarus is nasty — looks like the guy has been tortured and made to be a puppet for the TV.

He’ll likely be quietly executed, as they won’t want his treatment to be made public.

Although, Nth Korea got away with murdering that US student.

Some evil people exist in this world. It is what happens when freedom of speech is suppressed. Just like our government is trying to do.
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May 25, 2021 8:52am
- MCos
  
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  You are paranoid, surfing!
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:38am
  - Keith White
    
    It’s not paranoia when you’re on their list. And they’re making moves on your income, freedom of speech, property ownership, ancestry, independence and health care.
    
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    May 25, 2021 12:57pm
RockyJ

Auckland mayor Phil Goff announces 43% rates increase and 111% water charge increase over the next ten years. It is to cover high levels of infrastructure spending “to help pull Auckland and NZ out of the Covid crisis.”
Yeah what? I thought spending to stimulate the economy would need to come from borrowing not out of the pockets of the public who could do the stimulating by spending their own money.
I wonder about what the mayor has between the ears or is it just easier to ape what people like Grant Robertson say.
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May 25, 2021 8:52am
MCos

An unfortunate side effect of ultra sound scans is the emergence of gender reveal parties.
https://twitter.com/shieldhero85/status/1396072295291052036?s=21
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May 25, 2021 8:57am
- lifesgood
  
  Ghastly things and very symptomatic of the modern generation’s need to have everything RIGHT NOW!
  What was wrong with that excited phone call to grandparents from the delivery suite saying “It’s a boy or girl” and hearing their cries of delight. Now it’s just a case of “He or she, arrived safely” and the reply, “Oh that’s good” The excitement all sucked out by the entitled millenials. It’s a case of opening your presents before Christmas.
  
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  May 25, 2021 12:58pm
Tomtoddy

The undermining continues. Stuff runs an article blaming debt on “colonisation”. Because Maori, today have more debt than the average Kiwi, it is not their fault – its those evil “colonists” to blame – you know the ones that brought literacy, the great disciplines of engineering, architecture, technological developments, health care and much more.
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May 25, 2021 8:58am
- Swifty
  
  I struggle to recall a Stuff article so bereft of purpose or point.
  
  It reads like a piece for school one of my children used to bang out in their very-early teens.
  
  No mention that the use of credit, debt, is one many key parts of a financial system, developed over centuries, which has helped to result in us enjoying the highest standard of living in the entirety of human civilisation.
  
  Without which, I might add, we might all be still living in earthen huts, scratching out a living on a daily basis – and our lives dependent on what berries, fruits, tubers, insects and small animals we ourselves locate and harvest from one day to the next.
  
  No mention also of what the writer thought of 1. how pre-contact Maori traded and exchanged and what possible relevance that has to how we live today and 2. perhaps it was the absence of a financial system which was one of the things which held Maori back in pre-contact times. (I’m sure it was our isolation and lack of trading partners which was the main factor, but you get the idea.)
  
  What a miserable article. A one-eyed hit-piece which adds nothing to the national conversation.
  
  If a rightie wrote something similar it’s be called a rant.
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:29am
  - Batman
    
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    You could, you know, just ignore the silly DomPost opinion piece from a nobody.
    
    Screaming about it online only adds to it.
    
    It is of no value and should be treated as such.
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:44am
    - Swifty
      
      Where’s the fun in that?
      
      “Screaming about it online….” my dear fellow, I may be many things, but I’m not sure being a ‘screamer’ is one of them.
      
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      May 25, 2021 9:49am
      - kowtow
        
        And of course Batty could have taken his own advice and simply ignored your post , but he does seem to have set himself up as some sort of Hall Monitor.
        
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        May 25, 2021 10:21am
      - WaveyDavey
        
        Small man with a tiny modicum of power
        
        always the worst type
        
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        May 25, 2021 11:10am
      - Swifty
        
        It’s odd behaviour for a KB moderator, now that I think about it – advising people NOT to come to KB and share their thoughts on political topics that interest them.
        
        I thought that’s the whole point of Kiwiblog!
        
        What’s going on Batty? Is there anything you want to talk about? How are things at home?
        
        🙂
        
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        May 25, 2021 11:12am
      - Batman
        
        Shit you girls are sensitive. You should find a bit more resilience or you’ll struggle to cope.
        
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        May 25, 2021 1:32pm
      - Swifty
        
        Hahaha! Nice one Batty.
        
        Hey, does DPF know you’re telling people not to post here?
        
        🙂
        
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        May 25, 2021 1:50pm
      - Batman
        
        Oh swifty, I’m afraid you’ll continue to be encouraged to post!
        
        People are always welcome to submit guest posts too!
        
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        May 25, 2021 2:13pm
    - Keith White
      
      “BM’s Life Matters” and he’s here to tell us all why.
      
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      May 25, 2021 1:01pm
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Swifty, one of the things that held Maori back was that they attacked each other incessantly. They enslaved and ate each other, and raped women and children. But that is often forgotten these days were history starts at the Treaty.
    
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    May 25, 2021 9:58am
  - Fidel Cashflow
    
    Expect more of these articles so as to provide ostensible justification for the coming apartheid. It’s a program of seeding the idea, already widely promulgated, that Maori are so hard done by that this state of affairs will justify what would otherwise and rightly be dismissed out of hand as going against the Left’s stated values of equal treatment for all.
    
    Notice the subtle change in language, where ‘equality’ has been substituted for the similar sounding – but conceptually distinct – ‘equity.’
    
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    May 25, 2021 10:28am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yes, it seems the author would prefer that a collective took control of her debts.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/300307254/mori-have-colonisers-to-blame-for-concept-of-individual-debt
  
  She also seems to have a strange concept of koha – something I had always thought was separate from hau.
  
  https://www.alliancemagazine.org/opinion/not-simply-an-act-of-charity-maori-gift-exchange/
  
  (but what would I know?)
  
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  May 25, 2021 10:01am
  - WaveyDavey
    
    She pursues an interesting line of argument in that piece
    
    TL:DR Maori have no self-control when faced with consumer goods
    
    That 1/256th part of their genetic make-up is hella powerful
    
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    May 25, 2021 11:06am
- Surely Knott
  
  The Author of that Article, “Māori have colonisers to blame for concept of individual debt”, is named as Jade Kake.
  
  Jade has one parent who is Dutch and one Maori and she grew up in Australia. Isn’t her Dutch father a coloniser? Surely the intermarrying of Maori and Europeans meant an exchange of ideas and knowledge that then becomes uniquely NZ.
  
  She claims, “inequality that is literally built into the places we work, live and socialise .” How has her ancestry impacted her ability to succeed in NZ. She is a successful architectural designer, writer and urban Maori designer. In fact her career os based on Maori design principles so surely being Maori has been a financial benefit to her with an industry niche based on this part of her race which is the only one she acknowledges in her spinoff Bio .
  
  She claims, “Debt continues to be used as a tool for US imperialism and expansion through the international monetary aid system” Relevance? Is US Imperialism an issue in NZ. Surely all countries use money to exert power and influence and the USA is not our biggest threat in this regard.
  
  Anyways’ that’s Stuffs first race baiting article for the day.
  
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  May 25, 2021 10:40am
- surfing
  
  Clearly maths and economics is not strong with this one.
  
  Firstly, debt had little place in stone age societies. Maori had no significant infrastructure, and no original maori buildings survive today.
  
  Debt is extremely useful for funding capital expenditure over many years. You effectively promise that your future self will help to pay for your new house, as your future self benefits from it too.
  
  I will say though, that debt is a terrible idea when it comes to consumer goods and consumables. If you need your future self to pay for your food/clothing today, how is your future self going to eat?
  
  She should have known this. Does she expect maori to be given a home in return for some koha? Maybe a fish for a house? Because they can’t give you a moa, they ate them all.
  
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  May 25, 2021 12:05pm
  - Jack5
    
    Maori culture’s problems with debt have held back Maori as these islands developed into a modern country, and this economic anchor remains.
    
    Communal ownership makes it hard, if not impossible, to borrow for capital development. Borrowed capital is the lever for economic growth.
    
    Third World countries have been or are being held back by lack of a cadastral (land registry), surveyed sections, and a general system that facilitates transfer of land ownership.
    
    Without this, without transferable security, you can’t get the economic leverage of borrowed capital.
    
    Our Leftist Government is shelling out hundreds of millions of dollars for Maori housing.
    
    Such State largesse wouldn’t be needed if the land on which the houses are being built were saleable (alienable) rather than being locked up in tribe ownership.
    
    It’s a leading example of locking Maori into ancient, Third World ways.
    
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    May 25, 2021 3:06pm
thirteenstars

Free Speech Union latest:

— UK Introduces Bill to Censor Legal Speech, Block Websites for Non-Compliance

Oliver Dowden, the Culture Secretary, said that the bill would “protect children on the internet, crack down on racist abuse on social media and through new measures to safeguard our liberties, create a truly democratic digital age”

The bill creates a “duty of care” on websites to ensure that explicitly legal speech which has an “adverse psychological impact” is clamped down upon. This means that if the bill is passed, not only would there be a greater standard of what speech is acceptable online and offline, but the government themselves would pass the buck to that decision down initially to the Big Tech companies.

“The Online Safety Bill introduces state-backed censorship and monitoring on a scale never seen before in a liberal democracy,” said Mark Johnson, the Legal and Policy Officer at Big Brother Watch. “This Bill is disastrous for privacy rights and free expression online,” he added.

— Wellington Phoenix bans flags

“The Wellington Phoenix have spoken to Israeli striker Tomer Hemed after he wrapped himself in the flag of his homeland to celebrate a winning goal, saying the club needs to be “sensitive” to both sides of the Gaza conflict.

It comes after Palestine Solidarity Network Aotearoa criticized Hemed two weeks ago, saying he “crossed the line when, after scoring a winning goal, he ran to a group of Israeli supporters, took one of their Israeli flags and wrapped himself in it.”

What line was that? The line where the Palestine Solidarity Network feels it has the right to police Israeli people’s expression of their nationality and peoplehood?”

— RNZ bans comments on Laurel Hubbard stories

“Transgender weightlifter Laurel Hubbard, 43, is set to make history as the Olympic Games’ first transgender Olympian.

But our national broadcaster, Radio New Zealand, has banned people from commenting on articles that discuss Hubbard’s participation on the broadcaster’s Facebook page. This move was also made by the New Zealand Herald, who said “Transphobia will not be tolerated on this page.”

On Twitter, RNZ was no better – hiding (or reporting) comments that were in opposition to the transgender athlete being allowed to compete against born women.

For a state broadcaster to be censoring comments on an article they have published because they fear what people may say about it is absurd and frankly scary. RNZ hash-tagged their post with “#LISTEN”, but will they listen to the people of New Zealand who view Hubbard’s participation as unfair to natural-born women, but have nothing against transgender people identifying as the gender they wish? ”

— Fee-paying boarding school reports its chaplain to anti-terror unit Prevent for telling pupils in a sermon that they’re allowed to disagree with LGBT teaching

“One of the reasons so many of us a fearful of hate speech legislation is because what is happening in the UK. In the latest example of speech police going overboard, a school chaplain has been referred to anti-terror police for telling students that they’re allowed to disagree with LGBT teaching.”

https://www.fsu.nz/
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May 25, 2021 9:08am
- Batman
  
  Re the Phoenix, it is against FFA rules to do that kind of thing.
  
  So it is crossing a line, a regulation of the league in which the team plays.
  
  It’s all an effort to prevent those football hooligans in various parts of the world getting too excited.
  
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  May 25, 2021 9:39am
  - thirteenstars
    
    “…saying the club needs to be “sensitive” to both sides of the Gaza conflict.”
    
    The problem is private orgs are being useful idiots for cancel culture. They should have simply said it was a violation of the rules, instead of injecting themselves into the role of making comment about the political situation.
    
    And pretty soon groups like “Palestine Solidarity Network Aotearoa” will be able to make “hate speech” complaints to use the power of the state to shut down any such display of support.
    
    Pretending the two aren’t related and feeding off each other is to be wilfully ignorant of the dangerous trends in our society.
    
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    May 25, 2021 10:06am
  - James Stephenson
    
    Australia has a long history of problems with ethnic teams, Croatians vs Greeks vs Italians vs… so a flag ban is eminently sensible.
    
    It’s a pity the English FA don’t have a the same rule, I have some Man Utd supporting mates who were none too impressed with their players waving Palestinian Flags. Hopefully a few boos will give them the message that there’s a world beyond Twitter.
    
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    May 25, 2021 10:34am
    - plc
      
      I can bullshit. No one that supports Man Utd has friends
      
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      May 25, 2021 2:18pm
    - MCos
      
      I believe those players got into trouble for waving the Palestinian flags.
      
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      May 25, 2021 3:22pm
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Quite so Batman, and what a festival of football it was at Wellington on Saturday, on one of those days when you can’t beat Wellington!
    
    Interestingly, the FFA has already had to hose down issues with Western Sydney Wanderers in recent seasons, with a predominantly Middle Eastern fan base.
    
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    May 25, 2021 10:48am
Yvette

Pike River wind down about to start
The withdrawal from the Pike River Mine is expected to begin next week, at the end of the Government’s $61million re-entry commitment.

The Pike River Recovery Agency informed the families of the 29 victims of the 2010 disaster of the move late last week.
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The project was never about recovering the bodies, which are trapped behind a massive rockfall, but was intended to search the drift for possible evidence of what caused the explosions.

The preliminary plan for final sealing and retreat had been completed, and Work Safe NZ notified of the intention to seal the mine, beginning with the reinstallation of the 170m temporary seal in early June.

However, work will continue to drill new holes into the mine, past the rockfall, to allow further police examination.

This item, reprinted from the Greymouth Star by the Otago Daily Times, saying “The withdrawal from the Pike River Mine is expected to begin next week“, was dated Tuesday, 18 May – a week ago.
The Pike River Recovery Agency has informed the families.
When is Andrew Little, Minister Responsible for Pike River Re-entry, going to formally tell anyone else?
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May 25, 2021 9:09am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  What a shameful waste of $50 million, just to score political points.
  Key was right.
  
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  May 25, 2021 11:00am
- Jack5
  
  The project was never about recovering the bodies…
  
  That would be why it was called the Pike River Recovery Agency.
  
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  May 25, 2021 11:05am
  - Ehlana
    
    Recovery of evidence Jack5. Any other understanding you may ever have thought you had was “too definitive”.
    
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    May 25, 2021 12:21pm
- alwyn
  
  “The project was never about recovering the bodies”.
  Gosh we must all be pretty silly then.
  Can anyone read the words that our lords and masters uttered in 2017 and take that from what they said?
  “All major political parties apart from National and ACT have agreed to a commitment which would set up a government agency to take over Pike River Mine and reclaim the miners’ bodies.” That seems pretty definitive to me.
  “Returning your men and your boys is as much about a personal perspective as it is about anything else.”
  That seems pretty definitive to me.
  I guess we will just have to take it that we don’t understand what they were saying then.
  https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/we-have-obligation-families-new-cross-party-pike-river-mine-agency-would-bring-bodies-end-2018
  
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  May 25, 2021 2:07pm
Scooter

Wow 2 dead in Northland and 2 in Coatesville, what is happening in once peaceful NZ? Cindy this is on your watch.
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May 25, 2021 9:10am
- MCos
  
  Not to mention the rum business in Remuera.
  
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  May 25, 2021 10:47am
- Tony Stuart
  
  The Coatesville tragedy is being reported as the result of a house fire. I doubt that the PM can be blamed for that.
  
  The Northland case sounds like a murder-suicide, with the deceased known to one another, and the Police not seeking anyone else.
  
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  May 25, 2021 10:59am
Brian McDonald

Like when you are on super?
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May 25, 2021 9:44am
Swifty

Too many NZ kids’ tootsies are getting cold at night!!!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300315849/nearly-half-of-children-sleep-in-bedrooms-that-are-too-cold-study-finds

A a kid growing up in the 70s I spent a lot of time on a sheep and beef block on the eastern side of the Maungaraki ranges in the Wairarapa. In winter the nights were bitter and we regularly went to bed in woollen socks, hats, singlets and pyjamas and with a good half-a-dozen woollen blankets on top – no fancy duvets or electric blankets for us back then.

In the mornings we’d pop our little heads out of the blankets and our breath would instantly turn into icy vapour in the room – but we’d leap out of bed and race for the kitchen to light the newspaper and kindling for the wood stove to heat the kitchen and get breakfast cranking.

Was that a bad lifestyle? Were we deprived? Would that be child abuse today? Are kids today better off for not having those sorts of experiences?

I must say I look back on those times on the farm with great fondness and consider myself grateful and lucky to have had such a magical childhood. I’d add to that our health, fitness and vigour was tip-top and we went years between doctors visits.
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May 25, 2021 10:33am
- Pharmachick
  
  Sounds familiar Swifty – except not a farm, a Forest Products house in Tok and ours was a kerosene heater in the kitchen.
  
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  May 25, 2021 11:31am
  - Swifty
    
    🙂
    
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    May 25, 2021 11:47am
- Ehlana
  
  Odd. The study was done four years ago, with 8 year-olds collecting data on temperature and humidity on two nights. I wonder why it has only surfaced now?
  
  And a 12 year old who participated in the study back then says “I believe that every child, every family, deserves to have a warm and dry home that they can just live in and be happy in.”
  
  Did anyone tell her that most adults would agree, but warm and dry houses are human constructs, not natural features of the landscape. The desire to provide one for themselves and their families is why most adults go to work, save for, buy and upgrade homes and plan their family sizes to suit their income.
  
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  May 25, 2021 12:32pm
- lifesgood
  
  Yes, I had a very similar experience in suburban Auckland. None of my large family ever had chest infections or asthma or any other cold related diseases, only the odd cold. We grew up tough and never felt deprived or hard done by. Gosh we are bringing up a nation of pathetic whimps.
  
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  May 25, 2021 1:04pm
- MCos
  
  We all had similar experiences down south as kids.
  Pity about my brother in law who caught rheumatic fever and died when his heart gave out at sixty.
  
  ‘Was that a bad lifestyle? Were we deprived?’
  There’s no way I’d want my grandchildren to go through winters in the cold house we had to put up with.
  On top of that there was measles, mumps, chicken pox and the dreaded polio. I remember some kid a Marist died one night. Another kid had epilepsy. The others used to tease him about it.
  
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  May 25, 2021 3:48pm
  - Swifty
    
    Sorry, you’ve lost me.
    
    “On top of that there was measles, mumps, chicken pox and the dreaded polio…..”
    
    What’s the connection?
    
    “Another kid had epilepsy. The others used to tease him about it…”
    
    Did he catch his epilepsy in a cold house?
    
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    May 25, 2021 4:51pm
Sir Cullen's Sidekick

Bros – Can any one give me the difference between Tax and Levy? Why can’t Robber call Income Tax in NZ as Income Levy? Then we will not have any income tax in NZ.
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May 25, 2021 10:36am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Levy my left tit
  
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  May 25, 2021 4:26pm
Captain Mainwaring

The inquest into the fatal car fire in Wellington the other day will be interesting.
Clearly the only fire was in the interior of the car. No evidence of fire under the bonnet, and the front of the car was only slightly damaged when it nudged the light pole at low speed.
I might sound like a conspiracy theorist but it looks like the woman set the inside of the car on fire with a stray cigarette or something while she was driving.
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May 25, 2021 10:40am
- Fidel Cashflow
  
  It is reasonable to suggest that an accelerant was used. An inferno that intense doesn’t result from a stray ciggy. I won’t speculate further though.
  
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  May 25, 2021 10:50am
Brian McDonald

Hope today the new Samoan Prime Minister will enter Parliament today and start her party doing its elected job.
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May 25, 2021 11:11am
- KevO'Brien
  
  What’s it got to do with you?
  Are you a afakasi?
  Samoa mo Samoa.
  
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  May 25, 2021 12:03pm
  - MCos
    
    I understand from your remarks of yesterday that there’s far more to this situation than one party forming the government merely because they have a parliamentary majority.
    Why then do they bother with elections?
    I understand the acting PM is claiming the Chief Justice is biased because he is related to the PM elect.
    I can see where this is heading.
    
    We sit out here in NZ thinking everything is black & white, because apart from a few minor hiccups, elections & the consequences are straightforward for us.
    
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    May 25, 2021 1:09pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      The Courts are anomalies in this situation. The Heads of State (4) are recognised are having the paramount chiefly roles and their authority is higher than any Judge.
      
      I expect the matter will be settled peacefully but it may take time. Like all humans scores can be kept, matters can fester but their system seems to work well at keeping the long term peace. Chiefly authority is accepted and respected. Ill will is not expressed in public.
      
      The overall population is only about the size of Hamilton. There is a large legacy of govt from NZ’s former administration.
      
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      May 25, 2021 1:56pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  I looked into this and it looks like the Supreme Court’s decision is based on the fact the Constitution says “for the sake of simplicity, this is currently 5 MPs”. The problem is that this law was added in 2013 and the 2011 election only had 49 MPs. The 2016 election had 50 MPS so in both cases, 5 was correct. That statement is no longer relevant. There should be 6 female MPs.
  They should do another election and the HRPP will only put one candidate forward for each seat and FAST will get destroyed. You seem to be forgetting that the majority of people (over 50%) actually voted for HRPP and it was just their historic practice of giving voters a choice that caused this issue.
  
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  May 25, 2021 12:55pm
  - Paulus
    
    One has to understand Samoa is Governed by Fa’a Samoa which can be translated to ‘The Samoan Way’, the culture is heavily focused on family, respect of elders and being of service to others. The three structural elements to Fa’a Samoa are the matai (chiefs), aiga (extended family), and the church.
    
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    May 25, 2021 2:14pm
Benedict Yu

Australia’s Governor General is a startling contrast to the incoming New Zealand appointment.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hurley

Who would you want beside you in a crisis?
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May 25, 2021 11:28am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Yeah, but who would you rather get hugz from…?
  
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  May 25, 2021 12:12pm
  - MCos
    
    David Hurley looks more like a hand shake type.
    Either way it’s highly unlikely there will be a crises requiring the intervention of the GG.
    Having said that Sir John Kerr gave PM Gough Whitlam the flick in 1975.
    What fun if Cynthia chucked out Jacinda!
    
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    May 25, 2021 4:14pm
Captain Mainwaring

That comment earned you a rare uptick Brian.
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May 25, 2021 11:28am
Suze Wainwright

Might have already been discussed, but I see on CNN that Fauci is now saying he’s not convinced Covid-19 developed ‘naturally’.

And an in-your-face, card-carrying, defiant leftie pointed the link out to me!
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May 25, 2021 11:37am
- cmm
  
  There are tens of thousands of wet markets in China.
  
  It is just a complete coincidence that the one where CV19 popped up happens to be less than 300 metres from a virus biolab.
  
  Cudda happened anywhere. Yeah right.
  
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  May 25, 2021 1:01pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  So anyone following this closely knew all this a year ago, but we were all conspiracy theorists and crackpots because of some combination of Trump having said it (learned about it in his intel briefings) and big tech and media having very close ties to PRC so running interference for them.
  
  Yet more gaslighting by legacy media for whom the needs of servicing partisan political narratives and their Chinese business links far outweigh any residual respect for truth.
  
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  May 25, 2021 1:57pm
oldfella

Seems like Cindy and co have slashed the Winter Energy payment in half this year. Not sure I heard a lot about that in the media. Did I miss something?
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May 25, 2021 11:55am
- cha
  
  Back to normal after being doubled last year in response to covid.
  
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  May 25, 2021 12:20pm
  - Paulus
    
    Last years it was doubled in response to Vote buying and it worked.
    
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    May 25, 2021 2:15pm
- MCos
  
  When you get to my age you forget that last year it was doubled as a once off.
  I’d also forgotten that the whole concept was a fairly recent initiative.
  
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  May 25, 2021 1:20pm
- cmm
  
  You don’t need it where the fans live.
  
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  May 25, 2021 2:40pm
herb1

Watching a news item ,Sunday night, about a man with Tourette’s, made me realise Ardern is afflicted with the same syndrome.
Watch her media stand ups and then consider the news items definition of Tourette’s. “ unwanted sounds and movements”
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May 25, 2021 12:06pm
- Inandout
  
  herb, come on now, just because she apparently swears in private does not give her Tourett’s.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnZKVFsD-Zk
  
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  May 25, 2021 1:28pm
Swifty

More racism in our health system!!!

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/manslaughter-trial-woman-did-not-fail-to-protect-her-husband-from-injury-defence/BX7YAGXKCSRRDGJR2SBMZIISCU/
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May 25, 2021 12:23pm
Maggie Pie

Just back home from morning tea with the girls.
Sacha’s hubby is an audit partner with one of the big4
She was telling us the amount of backhanders and corruption that goes on in this city is staggering…..reckons it would be measured in the 100’s of millions!!

Just saying.
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May 25, 2021 12:55pm
- Paul Marsden
  
  On the Council side of things, it’s one of the reasons your rates are going up.
  
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  May 25, 2021 1:00pm
- wreck1080
  
  Generally you think government when it comes to corruption — bureaucrats using other peoples money to enrich themselves, such as a backhander for awarding a contract.
  
  I know it happens in private organisations too, but, they tend to be more aware because it is their money. Every large company I worked for has rules about ‘gifts’.
  
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  May 25, 2021 1:03pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Yes, by the sound of things, when it’s ‘other peoples money’…. the checks and balances seem a lot less stringent
    
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    May 25, 2021 2:00pm
lifesgood

I heard a report on Newstalk ZB this morning that a man standing about doing no harm but holding a sign that said “Jesus Saves”, was forced to take it down and move on by the police. Apparently some snowflake reported that it made her/him feel unsafe. This nonsense has got to stop. There have always been bible bashers, protestors etc standing on street corners. You don’t have to agree with them but they are all part of the colourful street life of our country and a proud example of our citizens’ right to freedom of speech. What on earth is this country coming to and what on earth were these moronic police thinking? Question: How does someone holding a Jesus Saves sign make someone feel unsafe? It’s not like he had a gun or a knife or anything FFS!!!
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May 25, 2021 1:12pm
- rockape
  
  A greenie holding a sign saying the World is doomed makes me feel unsafe!
  
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  May 25, 2021 4:13pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  I once saw a man holding up a sign which said “Jesus Saves”.
  The bloke alongside him had a sign that said;
  “Moses Invests”.
  
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  May 25, 2021 8:19pm
Inandout

Well done Dame Patsy.
https://gg.govt.nz/governor-general
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May 25, 2021 1:23pm
Maggie Pie

C’mon guys….PLEASE tell me this is photoshopped?

https://twitter.com/godblesstofu/status/1396860379670646786
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May 25, 2021 1:24pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, the new normal.
  
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  May 25, 2021 1:29pm
- Paul Marsden
  
  Society is going to pay dearly for propagating this sport of crap. How sick can can one get..!!
  
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  May 25, 2021 1:55pm
  - Batman
    
    Given the absolute shit kicking that this got in the replies, I don’t imagine it’ll be the new normal any time soon.
    
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    May 25, 2021 2:11pm
plc

Does anybody know the comparative per capita welfare spend of New Zealand versus Australia?
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May 25, 2021 2:00pm
- plc
  
  Ignore. See more specific question below.
  
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  May 25, 2021 2:15pm
Maggie Pie

Now we know….

It was Philip Barnes!!

How EMBARRASSING 😛
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May 25, 2021 2:02pm
I remember when

Wake me up when all you need to qualify as diverse is a different ‘christian name’.
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May 25, 2021 2:06pm
- graham
  
  I don’t know about diverse, but when the E-tu Union’s Head of Aviation is a grown man who likes to call himself “Savage” – just that, nothing else – we’re probably not far off.
  
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  May 25, 2021 4:01pm
plc

As at Dec 19 the percentage of 18-64 year old NZ residents on a main benefit (Jobseeker, disability, Sole parent) was 10.5%

Does anybody know what the comparative numbers are for Australia?
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May 25, 2021 2:14pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  At 29 June 2018, about 7% or 1.1 million people aged 18–64
  were receiving unemployment or parenting payments,
  
  p.40: https://www.aihw.gov.au/getmedia/795385cc-6493-45c9-b341-7ddf6006d518/aihw-aus-227.pdf.aspx?inline=true
  
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  May 25, 2021 3:42pm
- rangitoto
  
  Don’t forget WFF.
  
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  May 25, 2021 5:51pm
I remember when

UK Lockdown lifted. Normality returns:
“@PaulEmbery – Twitter.
Fans boo ‘taking the knee’ at Wolves v Man Utd.
It needs to be understood that people can oppose racism while objecting to being subjected to protracted moral lectures.”
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May 25, 2021 2:20pm
- I remember when
  
  Can anyone think of a million other examples delivered by just one person.
  
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  May 25, 2021 2:21pm
Jack5

Kathryn Ryan, today interviewing a new reading “ambassador” or coach, the Maori poet, Ben Brown, was struck by the fact that Brown had learned the Greek and Cyrillic (Russian) alphabets.

The Greek alphabet crops up from time to time in English conversation. Not sure though when individual Russian letters crop up in English chatter.

For anyone inspired to copy Ben, here’s a video coach who reckons she can teach you the Greek alphabet in five minutes:

https://youtu.be/0fhIqrl6dyw

And here’s a 10 minute video that says it can teach you Russian Cyrillic (some Slav languages’ alphabets vary):

https://youtu.be/5kDpO9T-z60

Actually Ben said he learned Cyrillic and Greek letters because he wanted to keep up with his very bright young son, who is now honing in on Korean.

There you are, Kathryn. Lead and do, don’t just tell. Be the α and ω of NZ morning radio.
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May 25, 2021 2:52pm
lifesgood

Fantastic. I love that he has learnt both alphabets and I love that his son is very bright,
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May 25, 2021 4:03pm
Maggie Pie

Another one bites the dust….
I see where ZB’s Chris Lynch has been given the DCM.
Obviously nowhere near WOKE enough for this current mob.
As my partner said…”a hundred and ten mill buys a sh*t load of wokeness”
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May 25, 2021 4:28pm
fernglas

My partner is a retired doctor who offered to join the vaccinator team two months ago. She just received a circular saying they were about to start calling people, but not to hold her breath, basically. This rollout looks pretty shaky.
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May 25, 2021 5:15pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Coming back and you know it.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=saved&v=1372019519669706
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May 25, 2021 6:40pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  By – spa and eat outside, rad heater x 2
  
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  May 25, 2021 6:42pm
- Inandout
  
  Steve, speaking of facebook, they are so underhand:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6T-P5Ngoi0
  
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  May 25, 2021 7:28pm
Fletch

Whistle blowers who work at Facebook come forward to reveal Facebook’s new algorithm to demote posts that promote “vaccine hesitancy” even if the post is true. Facebook ducks for cover, saying the documents will be made public on their site soon…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzhu0NPx6UI

Makes me want to get the jab even less if these big tech companies are determined to squelch any discussion around it.
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- Inandout
  
  Fletch, didn’t see your comment, but yes they are mongrels at the head of FB.
  
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