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Tony Stuart

Remember all the rhetoric last year about “two shots for summer music festivals”? Gee, I wonder how that worked out…

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/127970669/rhythm-and-vines-cancels-rescheduled-easter-festival-due-to-omicron-uncertainty
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December 7, 2021 8:01am
- RichardF
  
  Three shots for Easter!
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:03am
  - bartybart
    
    can’t wait until its a booster/fortnight
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:28am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Yes. if you take the three shots, you can meet God for Easter.
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:48am
    - bjools
      
      But cindy will resurrect you//
      
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      March 7, 2022 12:22pm
- surfing
  
  The traffic light system was always a joke, the green setting is a unicorn.
  
  Orange may also be a unicorn now.
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:12am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Orange is the new Red.
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:38am
    - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
      
      Red is the colour of Communist Labour who are ruling us now.
      
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      March 7, 2022 9:48am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  You appear to have ruffled the feathers of an early rising down ticker
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:14am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Boo yo compulsory down tickers ??
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:24am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Ignore them – we know who they are.
      
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      March 7, 2022 10:18am
      - surfing
        
        Why do you care about upticks/downticks?
        
        Seems a weird thing to care about anonymous thoughts on your comments.
        
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        March 7, 2022 10:23am
    - Fuzzysnuggleduck
      
      I almost miss SB2.
      Now there was an idiot you could love.
      
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      March 7, 2022 12:31pm
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Labour shills have been out in force since before Christopher Luxon’s speech yesterday. Our old mate “Hey Clint” Smith was spinning so furiously you could have connected him to the national grid, and he would have powered half the Hutt Valley!
    
    If the rate at which Clint and other Labour acolytes were pumping out tweets was any indication, Luxon’s speech must have been right on the mark!
    
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    March 7, 2022 10:23am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      It points out the Robertson was slowly shafting us, it also might wake up sheeple that can’t read the socialist dynamics.
      
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      March 7, 2022 11:08am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    “You appear to have ruffled the feathers of an early rising down ticker”
    
    Mike (and other of his ilk) in their many online drag costumes?
    
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    March 7, 2022 4:15pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  Yes. It was a lie to blackmail the young folk to be vaccinated.
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:18am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    There have been a lot of unforgiveable and blatant lies to compel people to take these shots. Completely unwarranted and total malfeasance by so many “experts”.
    The latest push for “boosters” is no different. There is no logical medical reason for it. Why do they keep pushing?
    
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    March 7, 2022 8:31am
    - Inandout
      
      CM, and the ad implores taking your whanau along as well to get their shots. The ads are aotearoa focussed and target the fast food sector customers.
      
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      March 7, 2022 8:35am
      - rouppe
        
        There are several words in that advertisement that I simply do not understand.
        
        Therefore the message has failed to be delivered
        
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        March 7, 2022 1:00pm
    - H. Upmann
      
      Why? One word Mac – Control.
      
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      March 7, 2022 8:54am
    - Local Miller
      
      To a man with a screw driver, everything looks like a screw.
      Jacinda has one solution, she has to keep pushing it just so it looks like she’s doing something.
      In reality she has no idea what she’s doing.
      
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      March 7, 2022 9:12am
      - artemisia
        
        Worse really. The Prime Minister has a truckload of advisers, and apart from the occasional captain’s calls she will be doing as instructed. And that is the big problem.
        
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        March 7, 2022 9:18am
      - glowworm
        
        I fear she knows exactly what she is doing…
        
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        March 7, 2022 9:20am
      - bartybart
        
        to a man with an ankle bracelet, everything looks like a possible screw
        
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        March 7, 2022 9:29am
      - Harry Knuts
        
        well summarised about Jacinda – one trick pony this current leader. Not really achieved much else. can’t keep flogging this pandemic dead horse for much longer.
        
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        March 7, 2022 10:48am
    - Matt Long
      
      Yesterday in the Herald a stats whiz kid had created a model where if he entered that unvaccinated people were more infectious and prone to infection more of them became infected after running the program.
      This indisputable proof of the efficacy of vaccinations appears to have disappeared today…
      
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      March 7, 2022 9:23am
    - RightFirstTime
      
      Why do they keep pushing? Could it be because the government bought a whole lot of the Fizzer doses for a cheap price because the doses are very close to their expiry date?
      
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      March 7, 2022 10:21am
      - Harry Knuts
        
        exactly what i was thinking. loads still on the shelf to be used and would look even worse if they have to bin them due to expiry. more wasted tax payer $$’s.
        
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        March 7, 2022 10:49am
      - Sacha
        
        I think she is wanting to keep the boosters coming until the eventual decrease in the numbers of ‘cases’, and then she will claim that the policy has been successful. (Hooray for Jaxy! She has saved us!)
        And then will lift some of the restrictions for the obedient, but not for the resisters.
        
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        March 7, 2022 3:23pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        You think the Govt worries about wasting tax payers money? Brahahahahauahaha!
        
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        March 7, 2022 7:06pm
- Biscuit
  
  Can’t say I noticed, Tony.
  
  Moi’s stats:
  
  Concerts attended 2000-2021:
  Zero, zip, zilch, nada … or, to use the vernacular, f*ck all…
  
  Concerts attended/to be attended 2022:
  See above
  
  Concerts attended/to be attended 2023 onwards:
  Oh, you guessed!
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:19am
- Albert_Ross
  
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  The facts changed, so the Government changed its mind. What did you want it to do?
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:25am
  - The Other Enoch
    
    It was only ‘alternative’ facts that changed.
    
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    March 7, 2022 8:59am
    - bjools
      
      and now for a quote by Marx, that fits our current govt.
      Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies …
      
      Groucho Marx
      
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      March 7, 2022 9:47am
  - bjools
    
    “What did you want it to do?”
    Be competent?
    Be honest?
    Actually work for their extortionate salary?
    Address the concerns of ALL NZers?
    Achieve something..that BENEFITS NZ?
    Stop with the spinning of this disaster into something it isn’t?
    ………Not enough time or internet space to list the rest……
    
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    March 7, 2022 8:59am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Which “facts” changed? That the “safe and effective” vaccine is neither? That it doesn’t prevent infection or transmission?
    The complete inability of Ardern supporters to see her ugly nakedness is to be expected but still astonishing in the irrationality of it.
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:03am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      “That the “safe and effective” vaccine is neither?”
      
      Nope, CM, those have always been the facts. The only thing that’s changed is that the overwhelming evidence makes it impossible for them to maintain the lie.
      
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      March 7, 2022 9:48am
  - Rich Prick
    
    The only thing that changed was the realisation that Cindy’s potion doesn’t work.
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:09am
    - Local Miller
      
      This would be nice if it were true. There are those of us who never believed in the magic juice, and there are those who have and still do believe. It seems to be a relatively small number who have realized it doesn’t work since being jabbed.
      
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      March 7, 2022 9:16am
  - rouppe
    
    You can still fulfil your promise – ease restrictions – while continuing a vaccination drive.
    
    Why didn’t she? Probably because the facts would show:
    * vaccination didn’t reduce your chances of infection
    * Hospitalisation rates weren’t going to explode
    
    The only reason we have a crisis in health is because of the isolation period. My nurse sister tested positive, and was going stir crazy by day 5 to get back to work.
    
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    March 7, 2022 1:06pm
- Mr_Blobby
  
  You may well ask.
  
  I opted not to participate in the endless vaccine mouse wheel.
  
  So no summer music festivals for me.
  
  I caught covid off a long chain of fully vaccinated, so it is definitely the pandemic of the vaccinated.
  
  Recovered in no time at all, have the required antibodies that are many times stronger and longer lasting than their imperfect vaccine.
  
  So why can’t I go get a haircut jacinda?
  
  The sad joke is that the booster shots, stopped nothing, they don’t work, return them for a refund or throw them out, this nonsense of using a vaccine where the potential for harm outweighs any benefit by a huge margin borders on criminal.
  
  What is really sad is how did we become a nation of scared little sheeple, it’s embarrassing.
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:28am
  - Sacha
    
    You have to ask? Have you forgotten the relentless fear campaign of 2021? And the lockdown?
    A population that still thought that the media told the truth; that the kindest PM in all the world told the truth and had our best interests at heart?
    As my old Dad would say: she’s as crooked as a dog’s hind leg, and I would say: you can tell by the company she keeps that she serves no-one’s interest but her own.
    
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    March 7, 2022 3:32pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Let me know if you’re coming to Wellington, Blobby. I know a barber who is an equal opportunities cutter of hair.
    
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    March 7, 2022 7:08pm
- coge
  
  Two shots for summer? Was in fact Cindy’s summer of segregation.
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:35am
- Brian McDonald
  
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  Try to keep up Tony:
  First Omicron case detected in New Zealand – Ministry of Healthhttps://www.health.govt.nz › media-releases › first-omic…
  16/12/2021 — Whole genome sequencing has detected New Zealand’s first case of the Omicron variant in a recent international arrival who tested positive.
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:53am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    “Try to keep up ”
    
    Notice how communists on blog sites, and those who never “keep up’ with anything are the only folk to deploy this insult?
    
    So what is your point? Less pathogenic strain of COVID arrives. Government tightens restrictions.
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:00am
  - The Other Enoch
    
    Yes, but by then those of us who maintain a healthy degree of skepticism when looking at anything that this government touches new that real world data was telling us that it was just a bad cold. No need to root the economy or engage in fear porn any longer. Unless, that is, one wants to continue to exercise control over the great unwashed.
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:06am
  - Harry Knuts
    
    wasn’t that Cindy’s mate – DJ Dim?
    
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    March 7, 2022 10:53am
- I remember when
  
  Tairawhiti must be really pleased with the effect cancelling Rhythm and Vines has had on the covid numbers.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:05am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Well I don’t now about that, but down Gisborne way, in Poverty Bay, they’re certainly feeling the effects.
    
    Who is this “Tairawhiti” chap or chappess that has feelings anyway?
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:50am
- Random T Person
  
  Heart attacks increasing in men over 40. In the wake of ‘vaccinations’ increasing in men over 40. Three shots for a funeral! Nothing to see here.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:16am
  - bennerg
    
    It seems that the effect on male sportsmen may also apply to those who are retired as well.
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:26am
  - bjools
    
    Was Shane Warne triple vaxed?
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:34am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Warne had been on a controversial fluids-only diet for 14 days before his death. He was looking forward to going out for a “proper” feed. He had also been experiencing chest pain prior to leaving Australia.
      
      An autopsy has been carried out in Thailand, but those who leapt to conclusions and linked his death with the Pfizer vaccine are beneath contempt.
      
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      March 7, 2022 10:28am
      - cas
        
        Cripes his last meal was Vegemite on toast with butter. That could put anyone away.
        
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        March 7, 2022 10:38am
      - bjools
        
        Looking at his life, it seems he always had a body image problem, being a world great bowler did not appear to be enough.
        His habits were almost bulimic.
        
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        March 7, 2022 12:18pm
      - Colville
        
        I assumed it was a hookers and cocaine aerobics program that did him in.
        
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        March 7, 2022 1:36pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Tony what is “controversial” per se about being on a fluid diet for 14 days?
        
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        March 7, 2022 4:35pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        I believe he was a heavy smoker for most of his life and enjoyed his food and drink.
        
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        March 7, 2022 4:36pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    RIP Warnie
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:51am
- yobi
  
  I know of quite a few people who got their 2 shots so they could holiday overseas. Every time I see them I do ask how their holiday was.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:28am
  - Clownworld
    
    Left NZ last year and was not vaxxed in NZ at the time I left. Happily travelling and living. It is getting easier by the day in Europe. Only needed a couple tests so far. Got omnicron and now natural immunity, recognised in most countries. Will return to NZ when MIQ goes, all restrictions are buried or the rest of world is worse than NZ.
    
    Probably be in exile a while.
    
    As for vax have eye on novavax, be intetested to see how the experiment goes and whether any point getting one.
    
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    March 7, 2022 10:25am
    - Mr_Blobby
      
      “Got omnicron and now natural immunity, recognised in most countries.”
      
      Not recognized in New Zealand, from what I can see.
      
      If you already have natural immunity, why would you get vaccinated.
      
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      March 7, 2022 6:09pm
  - Observer of Life
    
    Yobi: I know people who’ve had the booster immediately to travel. Before there was any thought of Cindy talking of opening the borders. Why???
    
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    March 7, 2022 2:19pm
Warren

Grant Robertson our Finance Minister:
‘National has no intention of giving Tax cuts’.
That’s a bit rich coming from Grant Robertson and the Government that used taxpayers money from a fund that was set up for the effects of Covid-19, to pay for election promises the Labour Government could not meet that should have been put into our Hospitals to train more nurses and create more ICU Beds.
If the Covid-19 pandemic was under control in New Zealand and the population were left to get on with their lives this Government would not survive another Election because of the mess you have left this country in with the economy teetering on collapse, inflation at record highs and our Hospitals in strife from the pandemic.
Your answer is we never created inflation, our economy is the as good as any in the world but these weasel words don’t fix the mess you have created because you don’t no how to fix it and if you did we wouldn’t be in this situation.
Instead we get it’s what is happening all over the world and it’s everyone else is fault except your own.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/03/06/government-has-no-intention-of-giving-tax-cuts-robertson/
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March 7, 2022 8:00am
- Nickc2
  
  He’s a slippery, slimy ……… If you hooked him on the end of your fishing line, you’d cut the line wouldn’t ya?
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:05am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    You’d never get the fat bottom-dweller up to the surface, he’d be down there clinging to a rock, secure in the knowledge that nothing short of game-fishing gear would shift him.
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:53am
    - Nickc2
      
      He’ll probably take the term’bottom dweller’ as a compliment.
      
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      March 7, 2022 10:33am
      - bjools
        
        Tch Tch…..no cheap jokes at his sexuality, please.
        
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        March 7, 2022 12:14pm
- bjools
  
  To contend
  If Winnie had gone with National
  The economy prior to Covid would have been MUCH better, because they would not have done all the dumb things that were done.
  They, I would hope, have followed their own “Influenza Pandemic Response Plan, c2017” and therefore not shutdown the NZ economy and also focused on the vulnerable.
  Putting NZ in a much BETTER position today.
  This govt. has lurched from one screw up to another, one failure of policy to another.
  With at no time admitting, even to themselves, it is the POLICY and philosophy the hold, that is wrong.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:09am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    If the great Charlatan had gone with Nats, Bill English would still be pm, snd Nats in their 5th term, because Nats would have bolted in due to COVID
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:28am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Was nevah! going to happen
    
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    March 7, 2022 7:11pm
- JJ56
  
  I ha d thought Luxon had been pretty explicit about where the $$s would come from – Labour’s provision for new expenditure on wasteful thing like 3 Waters and playing with DHB while COVID rages on. I’m surprised the media didn’t report that, or seek a response from Luxon.
  
  Anyway, Labour will go into the election with a commitment not to cut taxes.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:14am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    The arrogant Robertson said it would be inflationary, but the money would be deleted from their extra 6 billion in spending at this budget, Robertson again refusing to realise that every dollar government spend is inflationary, but the tax cut would come from that government spend, how can it be inflationary to spend the same money, the man is a chip off his old mans block
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:32am
    - rouppe
      
      I think Luxon said the money foregone in tax cuts would be paid for from that 6 billion. Which was quantitative easing money and therefore inflationary in itself
      
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      March 7, 2022 1:12pm
  - JJ56
    
    Although for an alternative view see https://croakingcassandra.com/2022/03/07/not-being-entirely-straightforward/
    
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    March 7, 2022 11:10am
- 1920x1080p
  
  National won’t be able to give any tax cuts. The money cupboard will be full of IOU’s by the time this government has gone!
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:29am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Listen to what he said, the money will be cut from Robertsons 6 billion slush fund from this budget, it is not a cut, it’s handing back what these crocks have taken from us by stealth, snd it’s coming from Robertsons war chest, by hod Robertson sounded as weak as cats piss arguing this policy
    
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    March 7, 2022 11:14am
    - Tom Hunter
      
      the money will be cut from Robertsons 6 billion slush fund from this budget…
      
      Oh FFS. Instead of constantly banging the partisan drum of National are amazeballs have a read of this from former Treasury economist Michael Reddell, Not being entirely straightforward:
      
      A very large proportion of that $6 billion operating allowance will be required simply to keep real spending at the levels the government had in mind in last year’s Budget. It is a really big price level shock, at a time when – almost every year – nominal GDP is at record highs, so it is hardly surprising that the operating allowance is itself a record high. It tells one nothing about fiscal profligacy.
      
      It’s basically a bloody floating line item in the budget and every government moves it up or down depending on circumstances, but claiming that it can be a source of tax cuts is just economically silly.
      
      You want tax cuts? Then National are going to have do some serious cutting of core financial expenditure. I don’t think they can and will, once in government, drift back to the “grow the economy” wheeze.
      
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      March 7, 2022 2:28pm
  - artemisia
    
    Cannot disagree with that. The current government knows it may have a limited time to set in place its ideologies so is forging ahead. Strangely they all seem to involve free money, mostly borrowed so future governments have the problems.National may have plans though. There does seem to be a lot of fat in bureaucracies central and local.
    
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    March 7, 2022 12:39pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      10000 more Bureaucrats since these mugs became government
      
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      March 7, 2022 1:48pm
    - bjools
      
      It will take years to fix their screw ups. BUT tax cuts is a good start.
      
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      March 7, 2022 1:49pm
- mogg
  
  This is a prime example of Labour Govt and Media
  disinformation. Luxon’s tax relief is not a tax cut, it’s a way of maintaining the same levels of tax paid by employees, rather than allowing them to be dragged into higher tax bands by inflation. What we really need are reporters who actually understand simple economics. I can’t decide whether they are too stupid or too biased to do their job properly.
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:52am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He is giving us back what the commies have stolen, and cutting the war chest a little
    
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    March 7, 2022 11:15am
  - bjools
    
    Fuel taxes, ute taxes etc, is a tax cut.
    Would like to see
    ACC reduced on employees and employers and put onto sports and other social choices people make.
    Reduce the ridiculous fees, MANDATED on many business’…extortion…make a law mandating compliance then increase the cost of compliance to this mandate….mafia call it a protection racket.
    
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    March 7, 2022 1:54pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

DP: “Wellington is a city hobbled with a record number of people in hospital with Covid-19 and large numbers of daily cases squeezing some of our most basic services”.

But but but – weren’t we told that the vaccine would save us? How can this be, Jacinda? We’re the most obedient little capital in the world. So unlucky!
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March 7, 2022 8:00am
- bjools
  
  Two thoughts
  and in 2 weeks they will all be well again and back at work.
  Since Wgtn. is largely a bureaucrats wet dream, it may be NZ’s saviour if they can’t work.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:13am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Quite a few getting it in the pubs in Dunedin, I know quite a few who have it now, all have very mild head cold, and most did not know they had it until a weekly test at work
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:05am
Benedict Yu

There is a guy in Christchurch holding a sign up at an intersection. “HOMELESS PLEASE HELP”. Not so unusual. Except this guy has just been moved into one of the brand new double glazed state houses. By my close associate the tall Redhead KO tenancy manager.

Now this guy is going to have a bad day because the Tall Redhead is driving past and spots him. And his sign. ? Anyway it ends with this guy getting a high volume lecture, and him heading home at high speed minus the cardboard sign. ??
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March 7, 2022 8:01am
- Mike
  
  Your partner is probability easily identifiable by KO staff and tenants from your comments here. A reminder that sharing personal information on Kiwiblog can be unwise.
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:07am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Thanks good advice.
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:10am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Yes, posting over your real name means having to think twice or thrice about any comment that can identify friends or family. So far I have avoided any unwanted repercussions touch wood.
    
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    March 7, 2022 10:23am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I thought it would be bloody obvious to the trolls that if we post under our names, we have very little in our lives to expose…
      Either we have spread it all before the great unwashed… or we are such insignificants that no-one would give a stuff if they learnt that a little old lady in the wops picked her nose.
      
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      March 7, 2022 11:50am
      - graham
        
        Even people who post anonymously should be careful of what they put out there. I have previously worked out the identity of two commenters on KB, through comments they have made that I can tie in to other social media – specifically Facebook community groups, in this case.
        
        No I’m not going to name them :)! My point is that as soon as you start posting ANYTHING of a personal nature, you may well be revealing more than you realise. Apart from those people who do post under their own name, you never know really who else is posting on here – and might be in for a surprise if you were to find out that “graham” is actually your next door neighbor …
        
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        March 7, 2022 12:00pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Exactly right, graham.
        Some people think, wrongly, that anonymous comments have less validity. There have been one or two cases of doxxing on Kiwiblog, and tricks attempted to get anonymous commenters to reveal more identifying information. Like many blogs, there is a tendency to pile on against comments that some see as falling outside the prevailing opinion.
        
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        March 7, 2022 2:58pm
- surfing
  
  Your ‘guy’ is probably a drug addict too. Not uncommon for these guys to have a place. The workers at KO have no idea though. I see they’re in the news again, constructively engaging with gang members…
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-family-begs-for-relocation-to-escape-gang-terror-at-kainga-ora-development/ECSJ2LOEF7SKSJF6FH74TCLCOI/
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:21am
  - bennerg
    
    This was also the case in Tauranga where the supposedly homeless Devonport Rd beggars would “go home” at the end of each day.
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:29am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    “A week later on February 12, another resident was set upon by about six men, thrown to the ground and kicked and beaten in the head.
    He fled into his unit and the attack only stopped when he pulled a BB rifle on his assailants and fired several shots, dispersing the violent mob who ran away.
    
    The father said armed police swarmed the street immediately after the attack and seized the firearm {sic}. ”
    “Police confirmed they received reports of a man being assaulted by a group, who then fired a BB rifle in the assailants’ direction before they ran away.
    
    “The male had some visible injuries and was taken to hospital for treatment. He was subsequently issued with a formal written warning in relation to presenting a firearm{Sic}.”
    
    Dail 111! The police to the rescue!
    Don’t disperse a crowd of half a dozen gang members who beat and stomp you, and pursue you into your home, with BBs.
    FFS.
    This country. And the police. Plummeting in my view, into enemies of the otherwise law-abiding.
    I would want to use lethal force, not BBs, if they were coming into my home. But then I know the police would ruin my life if I did their job for them and held a line somewhere against feral scum.
    What if we got if we hate gangs, but loathe the police?
    
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    March 7, 2022 1:20pm
- kowtow
  
  BY
  
  Be careful compadre , there’s no shortage of social justice warriors “monitoring” blogs etc in order to ‘keep us safe’ , if you get my drift .
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:22am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    BY should request an edit to the post via Mods, or remove the post, since I read Kiwiblog enough to think that we can piece together the locality/city, appearance, relationship details, employment/role are all a little too much on display.
    
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    March 7, 2022 1:23pm
- kevn
  
  @BY… Maybe he was just sub-letting his new abode?
  Maybe he had violent mob neighbours?
  Do tell as the story develops. Bound to be interesting.
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:27am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    The subletting to gang members does happen but they are usually compulsory if you get the idea.
    
    Apparantly most of the people with homeless signs are KO tenants. My associate seems to be able to instantly distinguish the genuine homeless and down and out from the try ons. She offers help to the former and kicks the others back home.
    
    I can imagine that sitting there with your “homeless” sign only to have this 182 cm tall women with flying red hair, running at you… Well it would be a wake up anyway ???
    
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    March 7, 2022 8:43am
    - Brian McDonald
      
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      Urban myth. What a dreamer.
      
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      March 7, 2022 8:55am
      - I remember when
        
        Another hit or myth Brian?
        
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        March 7, 2022 9:01am
      - RoboRob
        
        Whats an urban myth. The tall red head woman or that many ‘beggers’ are not actually homeless?
        
        I’m pretty sure both exist. Perhaps you are referring to the ‘caring’ labour voter, they seem harder to find.
        
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        March 7, 2022 9:04am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        Good grief !
        
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        March 7, 2022 9:11am
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        Pig-headed ignorance on full display. Houston, someone has a problem.
        
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        March 7, 2022 10:28am
      - Fuzzysnuggleduck
        
        How would you know?
        If I wanted to hear from an arsehole, I would fart.
        
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        March 7, 2022 1:27pm
- MCōs
  
  There’s conmen/women at all levels of society. At the end of the day this particular guy is pretty low level compared with some you hear about.
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:36am
  - bjools
    
    You are allowed, on here to call her out by name.
    Jacinda Ardern.
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:55am
cmm

Breakfast Research Institute Shocked by Disinformation

Yesterday, we at BRI announced the scientific findings of breakthrough research proving that over 30,000 Kiwis die every year with breakfast related deaths.

Unfortunately conspiracy theorists cherry-picked this information and began a disinformation campaign by saying that people should skip breakfast. That is a very dangerous idea because it does not correct the problem and can cause huge problems due to reduced nutritional intakes.

We want to clear up this disinformation. Skipping breakfast does not help. By its very definition, breakfast is the first mean of the day – breaking the fast – be that in the morning or the afternoon; day or night.

We have worked with some experts in eating from the Fat Studies Institute to come up with suitable methods. FSI reached out to us because they were alarmed that skipping breakfast might lead to people becoming dangerously close to normal weight. As they are highly experienced in this field they were able to come up with two solutions to this dilemma.

Solution One: do not fast. Fasting in this context means going without food for longer than four hours If you eat continuously, waking up every two or three hours to eat, then you are not fasting so never break the fast. The FSI recommends either taking a lot of snack food to bed or keeping ready to eat meals in the fridge to make this easier.

Alternatively, solution two: eat four meals at once instead of breakfast. If, instead of just eating one first meal of the day you eat four meals simultaneously, then your body cannot work out which is the first meal of the day so is fooled into thinking it did not have breakfast. This is scientific biological logic.

Both these methods will require some change, but it is worth it for the astounding health benefits of avoiding breakfast.

Please do not listen to untrained people on social media. Leave the thinking to the experts! Thinking is extremely dangerous when attempted by untrained people.
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March 7, 2022 8:01am
- Mike
  
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  Your reports about breakfast make more sense than your usual diatribes.
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:09am
  - Don Beckett
    
    In that case, Mike, we urge you to take up the recommendation.
    
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    March 7, 2022 10:33am
- H. Upmann
  
  God forbid that there are no fatties around for the Fat Studies Institute to study!
  Eat up please, 24/7
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:12am
- Biscuit
  
  Skip BREAKFAST?
  
  But, but, Breakfast is one of the seven most important meals in my DAY….
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:26am
- ClanMcleod
  
  cmm – thank you, the first plausible and accurate science based health information in at least 2 years. Thank you.
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:34am
- My
  
  Yes use the hobbit schedule..The only side effect is hairy feet, and some stunted growth.
  Breakfast – 7 a.m.
  Second Breakfast – 9 a.m.
  Elevenses – 11 a.m.
  Luncheon – 1 p.m.
  Afternoon Tea – 3 p.m.
  Dinner – 6 p.m.
  Supper – 9 p.m
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:39am
  - bjools
    
    So that’s what happened to me.
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:31am
  - Biscuit
    
    My, I did a check.
    
    Hairy Feet owned by Moi: Zero
    Hairy Feet on the other individual involved in this survey: Four
    
    I am getting a cold ‘Stop Picking On Us Felines’ look from her and an ‘I have claws, Human, and know how to use them!’ swish of her tail…
    
    Better go feed her, methinks!
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:40am
- Brian McDonald
  
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  Don’t worry cmm, I’ve never listen to you since your infamous prophesy about herd immunity.
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:50am
  - RoboRob
    
    Hey Brian, riddle me this. Vaccines don’t work to stop the spread of Omicron, what is it that is causing the spread of Omicron to slow in overseas countries?
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:06am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Brian, go and get a “sense-of-humour transplant”.
      
      On second thoughts, don’t bother – it’d probably reject you.
      
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      March 7, 2022 10:35am
      - bjools
        
        “go and get a sense-of-humour ”
        even if it is just a sense.
        
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        March 7, 2022 1:56pm
- Lee C
  
  cmm Point of Order the word ‘Breakfast’ comes from the notion of ‘breaking a fast’ perhaps after sleeping (probably meant on lots of occasions in medieval times with so many religious feast and fasts).
  
  Some people aren’t ‘breakfast people’. I will sometimes not eat first thing – or wait until I am hungry (or headachy) enough to organise myself.
  
  So for me, ‘Breakfast’ can occur at around 11.00.
  
  Rant concludes.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:19am
  - cmm
    
    It seems you’re taking a massive risk thinking for yourself. Leave it to the experts.
    
    I’d take it up with the BRI.
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:38am
    - Biscuit
      
      cmm, these days I look at anyone described an an ‘Expert’ with a VERY critical eye…
      
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      March 7, 2022 9:42am
      - cmm
        
        Your problem is that you are not trained to recognise experts. You need to be an expert at spotting experts.
        The MSM is full of those.
        
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        March 7, 2022 10:20am
Yvette

“Hate speech” legislation
Along with so much else, a matter Ardern’s Government is yet to deliver on – as is their hallmark – is the threatened “hate speech” legislation.
“When you see it, you know it,” said Jacinda Ardern of hate speech. But even the Minister of Justice has had trouble articulating just what might draw prosecution under Labour’s proposed hate speech legislation.

But perhaps consider “hate speech” in the context of the Parliament Protests – in what was yelled in defiance, displayed on placards and written on the steps of Parliament.

If shouting something is offensive, is chanting it in a group then multiple offences, or still one?
Is television coverage, that randomly transmits offensive placards to the entire nation, “an accessory after the fact”?
It’s a lawyers’ paradise.

“When you see it, you know it,” – so sticks and paving stones may break your bones, but words can identify you as internationally influenced through social media mis-information.
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March 7, 2022 8:03am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Pretty much the entirety of modern humanities marx based ‘critical theory’ and it’s close ally ‘conflict theory’ is hate speech. It’s bigotry by another name, all about ‘othering’ and fomenting and encouraging conflict and differential treatment based on immutable characteristics like race, religion and gender, and so should clearly be banned forthwith. After all I know hate speech when I see it.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:53am
glowworm

I found this Christmas present under a rock in my cave last night.

Warning voices from the past.

https://mellob33.substack.com/p/the-price-of-freedom
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March 7, 2022 8:04am
- glowworm
  
  Who ever Mello.B33 is, they are way ahead of most of us…
  
  Two days after Christmas, on 27 Dec, 2021, Mello.B33 followed up with this:
  
  https://mellob33.substack.com/p/restoring-sanity-and-bringing-people
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:25am
  - glowworm
    
    And then this …
    
    https://mellob33.substack.com/p/solving-the-freedom-tyranny-puzzle
    
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    March 7, 2022 8:51am
Simon

Luxon complained about Labo’s socialism then went on about how National will be far better at state planning than Labo. National has blindly supported Labo’s zero covid approach.

For Luxon zero carbon, man made climate fraud is more important than dealing to crime and the gangs. These clowns are going to move from covid to net zero seamlessly.

NZ needs a written constitution to protect society from the bozos from Labo & National.
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March 7, 2022 8:09am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The difference between what Luxon wants, and what these drop kicks are delivering is, he wants ever dollar invested, invested for the right reasons, he wants money that goes to these people to deliver outcomes, in education, in productive actions, as opposed to handing out the borrowed billions for drugs booze v8 cars and KFC, he as Lao wants the money for the dole to go into paying peoples bills first, and do do I, I want my tax money spent properly, there is no point saying that makes him a socialist, he has to deal with reality, a change in government is not going to get rid of the dole, either get behind a Luxon lead government, or keep the corrupt no hopers who have failed us completely for ; years, it’s your choice.
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:13am
  - Colville
    
    Spot on.
    
    You either want Jacinda to carry on or you want change, and the only way to get change is to vote Nat/ACT. Anything else is a vote for Jacinda.
    
    Anyone who voted for WinstonFirst in 2017 should be still giving themselves a daily uppercut. She is YOUR fault.
    
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    March 7, 2022 1:45pm
  - chukar
    
    Pity Luxon did not make his speech at the protest,
    He had a crowd there begging for dialogue!
    
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    March 7, 2022 2:11pm
crackle

Anyone seen Clarke? Asking for a freind.
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March 7, 2022 8:09am
- RightNow
  
  I heard he was spotted in Whangarei last Friday
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:54am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He is on kitchen duties this week
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:13am
Paulus

Why is it that we. New Zealand, still appear to be supporting Russia and their war in Ukraine ?
Is it that Ardern’s ideology and ignorance still pervade ?
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March 7, 2022 8:13am
- Master Mariner
  
  Yes indeed, Our Fossil fuels are refined in countries that buy ( Still) from Russia. Namely South Korea, Singapore and Japan.
  To what extent is a bit “murky”.
  
  Here’s another “Best kept secret” from US failed energy policies.
  https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/5/iran-iaea-hold-talks-as-nuclear-negotiations-near-finish-line
  Obviously the Israelis are not too happy. Will this bring down Oil prices if given the green light. ?
  
  Nope because the World can not keep up with supply and demand.
  
  Asia is racing to subsidise energy prices,
  https://www.energyintel.com/0000017f-5331-d78a-af7f-f3b577e50000
  NZ should do the same with a “Floating taxation” on pump fuel to dampen the rises and falls to give certainty to Businesses.
  
  NZ is the most exposed due to geography and Markets and made worse by no refinery and now shipping security.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:33am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Is it just my TV set, or are many of the NZ news reporters really quite portly?

Not a good example on these covidy times.
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March 7, 2022 8:15am
- G152
  
  Lying off the fat of the land
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:36am
- Loddenthinks
  
  “Portly” is perhaps a bit unkind. Let’s just say they’ve been in a good paddock 🙂
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:58am
  - Nickc2
    
    Perhaps they’ve been put to the bull too many times. Yes, that includes those masquerading as males.
    
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    March 7, 2022 10:03am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Must be too well paid
  
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  March 7, 2022 1:56pm
Simon

Russia has already won. Ukraine now is a vast mop up operation. The decline of the West is well and truly underway.

And to think that Putin and the Russian’s have not gamed all the sanctions that have come their way. Hence the dealings with their new partners the Chinese.

The West is falling fast. There isnt much to hold it together. Utterly undermined by the West’s so called leaders.
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March 7, 2022 8:15am
- Russ the Muss
  
  Oh dear Simon, u are about to receive a rude awakening over the next few months. The west was weak and disparate, but the murderer putin has just united the entire West. What a delicious irony eh boy? The Russian airforce has a burn rate of 8 aircraft a day, a few more weeks of that and they will have little presence in the air. The thousands of NLAWs and Javelins being shipped Into Ukraine will demolish what’s left of the pride of the Russian army, the over priced and dinosaur tanks. Like battleships, tanks in urban warfare are to slow, and easy targets for next generation shoulder fired rockets. The Russians are fighting a 20th century war against 21st century tactics and weaponary. There will be no battle win for Russia, there soldiers lack the heart, leadership and logistics to take a country the size of Ukraine. IT will be a stalemate and both countries will suffer terrible losses of life, money and resources. This is no win for the west, but make no bones about it. Russia is weakening by the day and look for China to start distancing themselves from this madness as the west start looking at their reaction and deleveraging key products from them on the down low. The west now knows what they are up against and has been awoken. Sorry old boy.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:04am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Those Chinese tyres on Russian trucks are letting the side down- literally.
    I see the Ukrainians have flooded the land surrounding those trapped trucks, (and else where- here comes the mud!) so no off road solutions.
    Between no fuel, flat batteries, no food and tyres which don’t last, that 70km convey is probably stuffed
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:29am
  - mogg
    
    Yes the only good thing to come out of this war is that it has united the Western countries. How quickly Germany has reacted, they have already announced $120 billion spending on defence, NATO
    Countries have increased troops and weapons on the border with Russia. NATO spokesman has told Russia that any incursions will be met with force, Even Biden wants to supply Poland with F 16’s.
    British planes seen unloading missiles in Poland.
    Meanwhile Putin war machine is stuck in a traffic jam, what a great tactician he really is.
    
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    March 7, 2022 11:29am
- surfing
  
  What did you expect the west to do?
  
  Should be an interesting answer.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:09am
- Philview
  
  Do you have Mondayitis?
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:13am
- Cinematic
  
  Russia’s won the award for worst military performance of the 2020’s. Admittedly we’re early in this decade. Continued poor performance may win them further gongs.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:14am
- kowtow
  
  ‘The West is falling fast’
  
  While Ukraine was being invaded by a permanent member of itsSecurity Council , the UN and by extension its enablers in the so called msm were banging on about climate change .
  
  And they won’t stop talking about it and their targets .
  
  How about a target for all countries in the UN to be democratic and civil societies by 2050 .
  
  Unlike net zero that’s actually achievable and would result in a fair , peaceful and prosperous planet.
  
  “climate change” is just a political distraction to the idiots so that pollies can pretend they “care” and are “doing something, anything”.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:16am
  - JJ56
    
    Some would say it’s been worse than just a ‘political distraction’ https://www.realclearenergy.org/articles/2022/03/03/john_kerry_putins_useful_climate_idiot_819615.html
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:35am
    - Master Mariner
      
      Wars are not won on only the battlefield.
      
      The economic war May / Will cripple society for years to come.
      
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      March 7, 2022 2:21pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Russia are massively over-extended in their Ukraine campaign, taking heavy casualties, using equipment that is barely functional with an army that has terrible operational organisation and effectiveness against a Ukraine resistance that is steadily growing in strength and competence (with training and western supplied anti aircraft and armour weapons). Add to that the russian economy is verging on collapse, and Putin is catastrophically unpopular and terrified of assassination to the point that he can’t mix with even close associates – and will certainly be mutinied against if he tries to do anything really extreme (like start world war 3)
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:20am
- rangitoto
  
  Ukraine forces have just retaken Chuhuiv. The Russian convoys have stalled low on fuel and mechanical problems. Sitting ducks in some places.
  
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  March 7, 2022 1:02pm
artemisia

Leonie Freeman, chief executive of the Property Council, in the media yesterday. The residential property industry is making a bid for taxpayer/ratepayer support for Build-to-Rent housing. Fair enough That’s her job. Bit vague as to what support means but she mentions the ”right policy decisions”, ” needless red tape” and “no cost to the Crown”.

”More supply means less pressure on rent rates and more choice for Kiwi renters. It will also improve the lives of the most vulnerable in our society, by cutting down on social housing wait lists that are currently stretched to breaking point.”

And there’s the rub. Those on the social housing waiting list, especially at Priority A which is most, have the option of moving to better accommodation provided they can meet the landlord’s assessment criteria – usually including tenant and credit history and can they pay the rent. There are thousands of rental vacancies listed every day and hundreds if not thousands of households added to the waiting list each month. Read between the lines.

BTR may well be a good idea, no issue with that, but how will that help the huge numbers on the waiting list. Rents overall might reduce but enough for lower income households to pay? Hard to see professional landlords forgoing risk assessment especially for high density developments.

That suggests long term leases to Kainga Ora already struggling to deal with unruly clients. Good luck with keeping private tenants. Cost to the Crown / taxpayers? Massive and increasing rapidly.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/300531362/our-rental-market-is-failing-and-we-must-take-action-now
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March 7, 2022 8:18am
Cassandra

Stop Press: National Party agrees to co-governance with Maori tribal leaders. Democracy will be reserved for “others” and only for their 50%. That’s the only possible interpretation of Christopher Luxon’s State of the (Dis)Union speech which does not mention separatism at any stage. Apparently not enough people opposed to apartheid were invited to National’s focus groups.
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March 7, 2022 8:23am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Don’t talk utter shit, he never said that at all
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:15am
I remember when

Although the evidence is not yet at hand, it is hoped that Omicron spells the end of the pandemic.
This being the case, isn’t it interesting that we lost control of the covid case numbers about the time that Omicron was, or may have been, about to peak.
All of a sudden the PCR testing gets overwhelmed.
Fortunately, we were able to maintain a semblance of the numbers using RATs.
Except, that the supply of RATs was uneven and inadequate.
So it is likely that the number of cases may have to be multiplied by X5, or not.
Of course, Auckland (which on the totals should probably included Northland, Waikato and Bay of Plenty) may have peaked but the rest of the country may be a week or two behind.
How unfortunate, that it may need to delay the removal of the Vaccination Passports, etc.
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March 7, 2022 8:24am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  look at number of covid infected hospital patients compared to Australia. We are up to about 110 per million, and Australia maxed out at about 210 per million about 12 days after the point we are at. But our number in ICU (2 per million) is tiny compared to Australia (10 per million at same point). If australia is a guide then we are only just at the start of the ramp up in deaths which will max out at 15 a day in 3 weeks.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:34am
  - Warren
    
    How many people that have had rats test do you think have bothered to inform the Health Ministry.
    Most people that have purchased tests won’t do what the Health Ministry have asked on the swab test because of the Government’s attitude over the Rapid Antigen Tests.
    
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    March 7, 2022 10:22am
    - Nickc2
      
      Why would you bother? If there’re no figures, they’ll make some up to suit Cindy’s narrative.
      
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      March 7, 2022 11:29am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Get Hendy and Baker onto it – they are good with number manipulation
        
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        March 7, 2022 2:05pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Today’s numbers are in and with drop in new cases reporting (probably less people bothering to test) we have probably hit our 7-day case number peak at a level identical to Australia – 4000 per million. https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2022-01-12..latest&uniformYAxis=0&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Vaccine+doses%2C+cases%2C+ICU+patients%2C+and+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=NZL~AUS
    
    Up to 696= 140 per million now in hospital, a little way off 210 that Australia saw, will likely peak about 10 days from now.
    
    ICU (13) and Deaths (0?) still really really low, Oz was about 5x as many at this point. Really amazingly low impact compared to other highly vaccinated country like Australia.
    
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    March 7, 2022 2:17pm
nathie

Putin speaks to a captive but uncritical and no doubt soft questioning audience of air hostesses and airline crew.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/russias-ukraine-invasion-in-a-cosy-chat-with-air-stewardesses-vladimir-putin-hints-at-deadly-nuclear-strike-on-the-west/YR6GSGYNT2TBJMEFB3ZXQBB5UI/

For some reason that reminded me of Ardern and the barely critical Press Gallery!

Fun fact: Air hostesses and aircrew pride themselves on providing unbiased and utmost professionalism towards their “audiences”! 🙂
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March 7, 2022 8:26am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Compared to an Ardern pulpit of truth press conference, Putin was being grilled by the most critical group of geopolitical geniuses on the planet.
  It’s one of the most concerning aspects of everything Ardern has done in the last few years. The communist style control of media that makes North Korea, Russia and Venezuela look more liberal than NZ does currently. I’m not being even slightly sarcastic. What leader ever told the population she would be “your single source of truth”?
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:15am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Pretty much all the bad ones.
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:35am
  - nathie
    
    Yep, and whilst anyone questioning Putin runs the risk of imprisonment, and whilst anyone questioning Ardern doesn’t, as you say Putin probably received tougher questions than what the Press Gallery gives out to Ardern (especially when Barry Soper is away)!
    
    Another fun fact: On ZB’s political chat with Soper fill in Jason Walls and HDPA fill in Andrew Dickens at 4.50pm last Thursday 3 March, Walls played back an audio recording of when Ardern toured Parliament’s grounds (after the protest eviction) calling the aftermath looking like a “dump”, cue a female Press Gallery journo who in sympathy with the PM giggled it was “smelly” too!
    
    Listen before the audio is replaced this Thursday! https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-demand/week-on-demand/
    
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    March 7, 2022 9:59am
- Master Mariner
  
  Not with the Ban on Aeroflot Flights over Europe and potential Job losses.
  I mean you wont see an Air Hostess on a MIG.
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:57am
graham

I see that once more, families living in a state housing development are being intimidated by other Kainga Ora “customers” (yes, the article quotes Kainga Ora Tamaki Tai Tokerau deputy chief executive Caroline Butterworth as saying they were “working with our customers” to achieve “safe and peaceful” communities).

But sadly, the terrified family that is begging Kainga Ora to relocate them to escape violence and intimidation from a Mongrel Mob member living in their street, have been told they were “not a priority” for a housing transfer, the father claims. The man and his wife are both suffering from extreme depression, they are on medication for anxiety, and fear for their children’s safety following serious violence incidents in the street. But tough luck buddy, you’re “not a priority” for a housing transfer.

At least Kainga Ora Tamaki Tai Tokerau deputy chief executive Caroline Butterworth (imagine the size of your business card to fit all that on!) has said the agency was working to resolve issues, particularly around increasing the safety of children, including fencing, gates and security cameras.

Oh yay. Fences will solve the problems of people being hit by cars, men being assaulted and firing shots in retaliation, Mongrel Mob members spending the night chanting “sieg heil”, barking like dogs, fighting with each other and breaking into cars. Yup, a good fence will make all those problems disappear …

“We take the issues raised extremely seriously, and have conveyed this to the customer. There is constructive progress being made on addressing some of the underlying issues.

“We want all our Kāinga Ora communities to be safe and peaceful and are working with our customers to achieve this… addressing concerns and taking action, where appropriate.”

Butterworth reiterated that Kainga Ora had recently introduced new measures to address the most severe and persistent disruptive behaviour. This included more engagement with challenging customers, support from specialist agencies and using the Residential Tenancies Act to relocate the most antisocial clients.

So what, exactly, does it take for these new measures to kick in?

Just out of interest, I looked up what Kainga Ora means. Apparently it means “Wellbeing through places and communities.” Based on this story and others like it, I’d say some of their customers might be justified in prosecuting them for false advertising.
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March 7, 2022 8:28am
- youcanthandlethetruth
  
  Just get one of those Israeli fences.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:20am
kevn

No mention of the ChCh rally in the msm.
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March 7, 2022 8:28am
- kowtow
  
  The message must have gone out from the 9th floor weekly spin doctors briefing to the editors that “everything possible must be done to discredit , villify and unperson them”
  
  “The operator says he since learned the woman had been at the Wellington protest in front of Parliament.
  
  ‘‘I think she’d gone up there, got all riled up and then ‘right, I’m going to show these buggers in Queenstown that we mean business’.’’’
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/queenstown/anti-vaxxer-bogus-paperwork-loses-it-qtown-bar
  
  The sad thing is these Q’town and other hospitality people are among the biggest victims of the regime’s mandates , lockdowns , lockouts etc and have not been behind the door criticising the govt and yet here’s someone prepared to spend money with them and wot happens ?
  
  Divide and rule .
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:22am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Does not support govt ~~propaganda~~ narrative so is un-news.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:36am
Tauhei Notts

The news must fit the narrative.
Cricket news out of Rawalpindi where the Aussies are playing.
But no news out of Islamabad where they have just signed a new gas contract with Putin’s government.
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March 7, 2022 8:30am
- kowtow
  
  South Africa refused to join the UN vote censuring the invasion.
  The regime there , that demanded the world end their “oppression” , now in power , not prepared
  to support other oppressed peoples ……..nice.
  
  I hope all the tools who marched to end so called apartheid remember they have enabled a corrupt , hypocritical and non solidarity regime.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:25am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    It was real apartheid, more so than Jacinda and her enablers have yet achieved. The South African’s solution to ending it was formulated by themselves, not outsiders. Under Mandela it looked hopeful but after him the scum rose to the top. Whether it can ever be cleared now is uncertain. A lot of SA’s problems have crossed the borders from the rest of the continent’s disasters. To me the one bright light there has been the extraordinary independence and integrity of its judiciary. I think that will go down in history and I salute those responsible.
    
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    March 7, 2022 10:42am
  - Jack5
    
    Other abstainers in the UN General Assembly vote on the Russian invasion of Ukraine included India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, Namibia, and some Latin American countries, including Bolivia and Nicaragua.
    
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/3/unga-resolution-against-ukraine-invasion-full-text
    
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    March 7, 2022 10:45am
    - Master Mariner
      
      Any news about Myanmar? Or still not allowed in the General assembly for voting?
      Otherwise there appears to be a very Heavy hand to what China allows perhaps?
      
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      March 7, 2022 11:04am
      - MCōs
        
        Myanmar voted in favour of the resolution, but only because their representative at the UN is out of step with the ruling junta back home.
        The junta tried to replace him, but the UN refuses to accept them as the legitimate government of Myanmar, so he’s still there.
        BTW
        The junta thinks Putin is marvelous.
        
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        March 7, 2022 1:19pm
CAKE FACE1

I think this article is a masterpiece:

https://brownstone.org/articles/the-moral-cruelty-of-the-pandemic-response/

He raises a huge number of great points. I liked this one:

“Astonishingly, the UK Labour Party shared a quote by a nurse saying that she had refused to let a man be with his dying wife, for “the greater good”. The intention was to shame the Conservative party for ‘Partygate’, but instead it revealed how morally adrift and lacking in compassion people became. Jenny followed the rules, but maybe she shouldn’t have.”

Throughout the plague, I wondered why say church leaders were following the rules. These rules clearly contradicted the teachings of Jesus. Who were they worshipping?

With regards to Jenny, I was only following orders wasn’t such a good defence for the Nazis.

Many people will be embarrassed by their previous support for totalitarian rules over the coming years.

This was a period of global mass hysteria. I wasn’t infected with the fear, so it was curious to watch it all unfold in a dispassionate and rational manner.

Anyway, the author concludes thus:

“Beyond empathy, to combat a psychic epidemic we need meaning in our lives. Not an ersatz top-down solidarity, dreamt up by technocratic communications experts, but genuine, socially meaningful relationships, purpose and values… For the good of the collective, we must recapture meaning and values as individuals.”

Haha, the “ersatz top-down solidarity, dreamt up by technocratic communications experts” reminded me of Cindy…

I recommend the article.
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March 7, 2022 8:34am
My

How mus this occur before something is changed?Multiple incidences of multiple gang terrorisation at a KO housing complex.
This guy gets beat up by 6 men, he gets back to his unit gets out his BB gun, fires it. He has to go to hospital because of his injuries. Police turn up and he gets issued with a formal written warning in relation to presenting a firearm. Nothing about the mob guys who beat him up.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-family-begs-for-relocation-to-escape-gang-terror-at-kainga-ora-development/ECSJ2LOEF7SKSJF6FH74TCLCOI/
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March 7, 2022 8:35am
Northshoredoc

Mike Smith the former chief apparatchik of the NZ Labour party and co head honcho at the standard writing about the honourable invasion of Ukraine to stop the Nazi hordes.

https://thestandard.org.nz/denazifying-ukraine/

Encouragingly a number of the regulars get stuck into his nonsense.
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March 7, 2022 8:35am
- All_on_Red
  
  ‘Nazi hordes’, there are about 5000 in the Azov group- out of 41 million Ukrainians.
  Smith, a useful idiot, is just dog whistling and trying to justify Arderns disgraceful and cowardly decision to do nothing
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:16am
  - bjools
    
    “Arderns disgraceful and cowardly decision to do nothing”
    Please note, history will see this as:
    New Zealand’s disgraceful and cowardly decision to do nothing
    Since she is our “representative”
    
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    March 7, 2022 12:51pm
Frank the tank

Anyone else sick of this ‘misinformation’ crusade the elites are on.

Fuck them.

I’ll read what I want to read and then evaluate whether I trust the information presented.

So over every piece of garbage in power telling me what I can’t do, read or listen to.
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March 7, 2022 8:37am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Ask them for examples of “misinformation”. Good luck, I have records going back over a year of asking those in the media, government and academia for examples. A simple enough request I would have thought considering they bang on about it all day, every day. To date, zero response. The silence is all I need to know that they are talking shit.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:47am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Maybe you got their email addresses wrong and it went into cyberspace? …..
    
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    March 7, 2022 2:21pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Steve, I actually have a few replies to various questions over the last 2 years. I think they were either drunk or of the mistaken opinion they were dealing with a feral retard and could dismiss me with their “superior intellect”. Rod Jackson in particular likely fits both descriptions.
      I will be compiling them for some form of publication in the future. I’ve kept a lot of stuff as a timeline and record of this insanity since almost the very beginning. They will make for some entertaining reading!
      
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      March 7, 2022 4:26pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  The best way to avoid “misinformation” is to stop reading it, in places like the MSM when they preach about misinformation and disinformation.
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:05am
RockyJ

More fake news from the NZ Herald. This article below makes the claim that being double vaccinated and boosted provides significant protection against being infected by Omicron. But this claim is based on a model, not real world data.
As climate science demonstrates you can use models to make any claim you want.
I would like to see real world NZ data on how many vaxxed people have been infected by Omicron to date. The author says real data can only show how many have contracted Omicron, not how many have passed it on, so a model is necessary.
I disagree. I still think real world data on how many have picked up this virus will be useful.
I get annoyed when experts and so called journalists cite models as facts. Real world data must be out there. #integrity in reporting please. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/boosted-vs-unvaxxed-how-does-omicron-infection-risk-compare/BIONGUBVW7HNHA74VBLGQOMWNM/
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March 7, 2022 8:41am
- Benedict Yu
  
  You can’t beat large cohort empirical data that has been peer reviewed. And here it is. The New England Medical Journal. Cohort =887,000.
  
  Pfizer effectiveness against infection 65.5% at 2 to 4 weeks after second dose, dropping to 8.8% at 25 or more weeks.
  
  After a booster, you get increased vaccine effectiveness against infection to 73.9% at 2 to 4 weeks but it drops to 64.4% at the 5 to 9 weeks interval.
  
  https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2119451
  
  So the message is clear. For those who have NOT been boosted, they are LITERALLY like an unvaccinated person after 25 weeks. (yet they can keep a vaccine pass!).
  
  For the BOOSTED, you initially have 73 percent protection and after 9 weeks you have 64% protection, but it is heading downhill. It will follow the second shot trajectory, so by (say) 16 weeks the boosted will be below 50 percent, and just like the second shot, efficacy will decline towards zero over 6 months.
  
  So yes the “boosted” are initially moderately protected (73 percent is NOT well protected – it would need to be 95 percent. But the efficacy of the booster still drops at an astonishing rate. ANY “vaccine” in history that dropped to 64% efficacy after 9 weeks would have been thrown in the trash.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:47am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    So if I get the ‘booster’ when will my ‘vaccine pass’ expire? Nobody seems to know, unless I just missed the info …
    
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    March 7, 2022 2:25pm
    - Lucia Maria
      
      Steve,
      
      The booster does not have an effect on your vax pass at present. However, the govt has reserved the right for changing the rules on a whim, so anything goes from April 1.
      
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      March 7, 2022 4:48pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    “After a booster, you get increased vaccine effectiveness against infection to 73.9% at 2 to 4 weeks but it drops to 64.4% at the 5 to 9 weeks interval.”
    
    You get “increased vaccine effectiveness” of X percent against what precisely??? Omicron? Sars Cov-2 original strain spike protein? I think this matters.
    
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    March 7, 2022 3:27pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Accidental downtick, sorry.
  The author of the piece, Jamie Morton, is one of the primary government shills from way back in the covid circus.
  The claims are moronic.
  
  “”This is information that is relatively simple to get from a mathematical model, but almost impossible to determine from real data, as it is so hard to know where and who someone got infected from -”
  
  On what planet can a mathematical model be more reliable than real world, empirical data????
  A mathematical model will say whatever you want it to say, empirical data is the truth. There is a gulf of difference.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:53am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Post modern scare-science as seen in climate and covid. Politically preferred interpretations (ie those that provide an excuse for growth of govt and bureaucratic power) trump contradicting data.
    
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    March 7, 2022 10:16am
  - Master Mariner
    
    A model is to predict before the fact and data is after the fact.
    Not Rocket Science is it?
    
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    March 7, 2022 11:09am
Maggie Pie

What is YOUR gender identity?

I’ve been aware we have L.G.B.Q.T.I.P.A.C.N. currently among us….now looks like we can add ‘D’ to the group as well.

https://gender.fandom.com/wiki/Demigender

All just silly ‘attention-seekers’ if you ask me 😛
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March 7, 2022 8:45am
- alloytoo
  
  If I am a Demi-god, then whatever gender I am is Demi-gender.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:14am
  - bjools
    
    Only 1/10th of a god huh?
    
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    March 7, 2022 12:09pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      No, half.
      
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      March 7, 2022 1:47pm
      - bjools
        
        Wouldn’t that be a “semi-god”?
        
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        March 7, 2022 1:58pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        Demi is half. Deci is 1/10th. as in decimal point.
        A demi-john is a half gallon jar.
        
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        March 7, 2022 4:49pm
      - bjools
        
        OK OK I’ll stop teasing you.
        
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        March 7, 2022 5:16pm
- bjools
  
  Isn’t, just being a decent human being enough.
  Since the bureaucrats became al powerful.
  We now must
  Create a file
  subfile
  Catagory
  Sub catagory
  and break down every variance in human behaviour, until you are defined, not by your name but some file label.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:27am
- James Stephenson
  
  I dunno about you Maggie, but I don’t have a gender identity, just a gender.
  
  I don’t identify as male, or white, or tall, I just am those things whether I (or anybody else) likes it or not.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:29am
- rockape
  
  Once upon a time, if I said “ I feel like a woman” to my mates, they would thing I was feeling randy. Now they probably just think I am displaying my feminine side!
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:40am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Will the alphabet soon have to be extended in the same way as the famous Wall Street US National Debt Clock was???
  
  “Amid extensive media attention during the financial crisis beginning in 2007, the National Debt Clock’s display ran out of digits when the U.S. gross federal debt rose above US$10 trillion on September 30, 2008.[17][18][19] In the farthest-left space, the debt clock displayed the digit “1” in place of the dollar sign”
  
  Should we adopt the Nepali alphabet which has 64 characters?
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:01am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  It’s straightforward, Maggie. A demigender is a halfwit in search of paradise.
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:47am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I haven’t graduated beyond sex.
  
  Am I missing something?
  
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  March 7, 2022 2:11pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Just look in your undies – the gender proof is there
  
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  March 7, 2022 2:27pm
- Pineapple Lumps
  
  It was good to see Bob McKroskie on LinkedIn, where some have (he, him) after their name. Bob has (XY).
  
  Chromosomes don’t do I’m special and unique alphabet soup.
  
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  March 7, 2022 8:43pm
hmmokrightitis

Otago epidemiologist Michael “80,000 grannies” Baker is not impressed that someone is selling positive RAT tests online – calls it tantamount to fraud.

We should believe him – if there is anyone in this country other than our Glorious Leader (TM) who knows what tantamount to fraud is, its Baker.
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March 7, 2022 8:50am
- cmm
  
  To be fair, I don’t think he was 80,000-grannies man. That was Hendy.
  
  Baker has been making huge arm-waving claims about flu for the last few years. In 2019 he said that a quarter of all NZers get flu every year and that 10,000 die of flu related causes (approx a third of all deaths in NZ).
  
  If you measured flu the same way as CV19 is measured he’d probably be right. Most flu infections are asymptomatic or are shrugged off as mild colds.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:35am
  - Cinematic
    
    Baker also used the mass graves in NY bullshit to further his covid cause in 2020.
    
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    March 7, 2022 10:05am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Actually credit for the 80,000 dead should go to Neil Ferguson and Imperial College London. Hendy basically plagiarised their idiotic data and extrapolated it to fit NZ’s population.
    Hendy referenced it 7 times in his report to the NZ government in 2020.
    
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    March 7, 2022 10:06am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Tell a lie often enough and the peasants believe it
      
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      March 7, 2022 2:43pm
  - MCōs
    
    Here is an article from 2019 in which Michael Baker suggests 500 deaths/annum can be attributed to the flu.
    He also says up to 25% of us have the flu each year.
    I recall maybe once in my memory having had the flu, but who knows? Maybe I’ve downplayed a dose as a bad cold whereas other folks label everything as the flu.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/112942493/kiwis-underestimate-the-seriousness-of-the-flu-says-public-health-professor
    
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    March 7, 2022 1:41pm
- Inandout
  
  hmm, that ex-Mayor of NY Bill de Blasio got rid of a few grannies by infecting retirement homes. Not anywhere near Hendy’s dream figure but on the right track.
  
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  March 7, 2022 11:00am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    What sort of idiot puts Covid infected into rest homes? There were two hospital ships in the harbour, neither were used as far as I know.
    Another commie control freak
    
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    March 7, 2022 2:45pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Just like the UK Nightingale hospitals that never saw a patient. You’d think they were just optics to support a narrative or something.
      
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      March 7, 2022 3:48pm
Observer of Life

Great news. My family and I are now Covid19 “survivors”.
Here’s the lowdown…. (In the words of Mrs Doubtfire – Brace yourself Effie!)
My partner and I appear to have contracted the virus from our kids who are at Uni, after having spent 2 days with each of them (in different cities). As you do, we got up close and personal with them, therefore contracted it. (After our departure, they found out they had it).
Kids: Both haven’t been boosted – they’re not interested. One had last jab April 2021. The other November 2021. Symptoms: April jab kid had marginal nasal congestion. Not as bad as a “normal” cold. Nose didn’t run though. November kid, had a bit of a cold and a couple of days later it was just a niggly cough. No medicines/drugs required to help either.
Partner and I: Haven’t been boosted. Last jab April 2021. Partner had a mild headache for 24-36 hours and regularly sneezed for a day. Nothing bad enough that needed Panadol etc. Me, for 24 hours felt like I had a really mild bout of hay fever (slight nasal congestion and slight headache with it), not enough to take any pain relief etc. Then for a couple of days I felt like my left nostril was going to leak (like a cold) but nothing happened. None of us lost our sense of smell or taste.
The End.
With all the hype we’ve had to endure over the past few weeks from the MSM, MoH and government, I was expecting bigger things. Quite frankly, what a fizzer.
Partner and I have been taking Vit C since March 2020. Zinc, Vit D and Magnesium for the last 6 months. I carry a bit extra weight, close to my 60’s, partner a good weight and mid 50’s.
And that’s our story… yawn!
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March 7, 2022 8:52am
- krazykiwi
  
  Thanks. This story is playing out tens of 1000s of times every day in New Zealand. Think omi spreads quickly? It’ll be nothing like the penny-dropping incredulity at what destruction has been visited upon us without cause.
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:11am
- Aunty
  
  “I was expecting bigger things.”
  
  Why would you be expecting bigger things? It is well documented and reported both here and abroad by health authorities that Omicron is a much more mild variant of Covid, causing for the majority of those who get it a mild illness that can be readily managed at home.
  
  What part of ‘mild’ do you not understand?
  
  And why would you bag the medical experts and the MoH for predicting and stating accurately exactly the sort of disease and its course that you got? They haven’t lied or exaggerated about Omicron, and they didn’t about Delta and the earlier variants either! And you would do well to remember that.
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:30am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Hello Aunty Karen. 🙂
    
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    March 7, 2022 11:54am
  - glowworm
    
    Maybe you are correct Aunty.
    
    Maybe the MoH didn’t lie.
    
    Maybe they just didn’t do the proper due diligence required of them for the people of NZ?
    
    It does appear that there have been some fairly well respected scientists and medical experts around the world who appear to have been ignored/censored and have been sounding warnings for sometime now…
    
    This guy for example. Geez I wish I had listened to him instead of our experts… He at least sounds legit, which I don’t think can be said of our media “experts”.
    
    Read the bold highlights… unless you understand immunology…
    
    He hopes he is wrong. But he doubts it…
    
    https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/omicron-a-wolf-in-sheeps-clothing
    
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    March 7, 2022 12:10pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Yup, that’s about the response expected from the “single source of truth”. Complete fiction and refusal to acknowledge the destruction caused by moronic responses to a seasonal virus.
    
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    March 7, 2022 12:45pm
  - Surely Knott
    
    I don’t understand the part of a “mild” virus that results in emergency powers being given to the government. I don’t understand how a “mild virus” results in the most draconian and extreme restrictions and loss of liberties that have ever been visited upon NZ for those who choose not to take an experimental vaccine . I don’t understand the part of “mild” that has the government in court to try and defend keeping those restrictions. I don’t understand the part of “mild” that has not caused the government to drop the mandates immediately and offer a full apology and compensation to those who suffered financial or medical harm, and reinstating the jobs of those who lost them.
    
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    March 7, 2022 2:44pm
  - Observer of Life
    
    Oh I don’t know Aunty. Maybe the “get boosted to protect yourself from Covid” BS they’ve been pushing of late. You may have missed the FACT that my last jab was April 2021. So partner and I should have been walking disasters without the “life saving” booster. Aunty Karen, exactly what is the point of pushing the 3rd jab when (as you say) Omicron is a big nothing-burger!!
    Oh and here’s a thought Cindy. How about dropping your stupid mandates/passports etc.
    To be fair, I’m not sure why I’m even replying to you. You are a Covid Shrill and if you can’t see the irony in the government messaging vs the reality of a non-boosted/long ago jabbed people, there is no hope for you.
    
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    March 7, 2022 6:21pm
- bjools
  
  A couple of months ago, I woke up…felt like someone had detoured a train over my head.
  Note” I don’t get sick, not so much as a cold for about 10yrs.
  I stayed in, not because our stupid PM said so, but because my mother told me that’s what I should do when I was 5.
  Felt a little better the next day but still got a covid test. 2 days later, I was feeling much better, they told me I was negative.
  Considering my history….I don’t believe them.
  BTW, almost 1 week after it started…it was gone.
  a thought
  Whats the big deal, if you get this you will be better in a week or 2. Just a memory
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZfGTL2PY3E
  lets put Labour in the past.
  
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  March 7, 2022 12:07pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I am sure I have had it before my two jabs, but this poxy Govt will not allow antibody testing.
  Why did they ban those tests?
  
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  March 7, 2022 2:48pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    That is one of those questions still to be answered. Why would any government legally ban antibody testing just as an apparent pandemic was about to kick off?
    
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    March 7, 2022 3:51pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      We know why, I just want them to say why, in front of a TV camera
      
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      March 8, 2022 1:14pm
lastmanstanding

China is treating Russia as its Useful Idiot. The Russian economy is on the verge of collapse.Western economies are being weakened. All this plays into Chinas hands. The only military design China has is Taiwan which it regards as its own. It will control other countries like NZ through the economy. Clark Key and now Ardern and the so called Captains of Industry have played into Chinas hands with the result that NZ is reliant on China trade.
Any good SME owner knows better to have 10 suppliers and customers than one or two. Its called derisking your business. Pity these idiot politicans and business leaders dont understand.
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March 7, 2022 8:56am
- Cinematic
  
  China has successfully invaded a country with a few monks. An invasion of Taiwan will involve USA. It won’t happen.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:26am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    I don’t think we can be so sure at the moment. China has steadily escalating military strength, and drone tech (for which China is a world leader) makes it possible to overwhelm and destroy military in a small country like Taiwan at low cost for an attacking army. US has just demonstrated it will not fight back against nuke superpowers, and have also shown with their policy of building new semiconductor chip factories in USA that they expect China to take world leader Taiwan.
    
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    March 7, 2022 10:11am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Too many Americans on one side of the Island will make the Island tip over.
    Oh, wait, that was Guam
    
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    March 7, 2022 2:50pm
CAKE FACE1

Here is another article that tries to explain the global descent into mass hysteria:

https://lauradodsworth.substack.com/p/is-this-a-global-psychic-epidemic?utm_source=url&s=r

“Although Covid is a real disease and SARS-CoV-2 is a real virus, some of the response felt ‘unreal’ if you were not caught up in the cult-like response. We have not just endured and tolerated but even demanded the curtailment of our freedoms, for a disease which has a median Infection Fatality Rate of 0.05% for under 70-year-olds globally. Our response felt unmoored from the gravity of the threat – why?”

The global psychic epidemic is explained as follows:

“‘Jung said the really dangerous point is when insight and reflection are crushed by the mass movement and the state succumbs to a fit of weakness in that scenario. I think that’s happening. The state is afraid of some of the mass movements, such as political correctness. Rational argument is only possible if the emotionality of a situation does not exceed a critical degree. In that case reason will be supplanted by slogans and fantasies. A collective possession develops which turns into a psychic epidemic.’”

Jung explains it as follows:

“The moral responsibility of the individual is then inevitably replaced by the policy of the State (raison d’état). Instead of moral and mental differentiation of the individual, you have public welfare and the raising of the living standard. The goal and meaning of individual life (which is the only real life) no longer lie in individual development but in the policy of the State, which is thrust upon the individual from outside and consists in the execution of an abstract idea which ultimately tends to attract all life to itself. The individual is increasingly deprived of the moral decision as to how he should live his own life, and instead is ruled, fed, clothed and educated as a social unit, accommodated in the appropriate housing unit, and amused in accordance with the standards that give pleasure and satisfaction to the masses…

The rulers… do not need to be personalities capable of judgment, but thoroughgoing specialists who are unusable outside their line of business. State policy decides what shall be taught and studied.”

I found this article interesting…
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March 7, 2022 8:57am
- Master Mariner
  
  Carl Jung’s book Memories , Dreams and reflections gives a fascinating insight to the human mind. Father of pychoanaylist science. ( spelling is not my strong point).
  Good article.
  If interested read “The captive Mind” which explains this perfectly.
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:11am
I remember when

The police intelligence, they read the ever increasing number of ‘increasing violent’ protest articles in the media, told them that there was an influx of undesirables joining the campsite.
At a time of their selection the police decided they needed to remove all of the protestors.
The level of violent that was going to ensue was obvious because they were armed with pepper spray and ‘rubber’ bullets.
Videos from the site showed a small but steady number of provocations, punches (where does the police manual suggest punches as reasonable force), pepper spraying, aggressive use of shields.
Yet it is only after hours of largely pushing and shoving that any real crowd response occurs.
There were a numbet of occasions when groups of officers could have been isolated by the crowd if they had wanted to attack them.
No such attempt occured.
They just pushed back to resist the police advances.
If it takes hours to get a crowd to lose control, how violent is it really?
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March 7, 2022 8:57am
- Lee C
  
  I believe this was orchestrated, and scheduled.
  
  Two day of provocation, followed by a mass arrival of police and concerted assaulkt, enabled in part by the intorduction of ‘left-friendly’ but violent antagonists.
  
  What, based on prior footage of these people would suggets they are the kinds who would efire to their own tents?
  
  Wouldn’t they have been too occupied trying to shiled the kids from pepper-spray, soft bullets, tear-gas and fire-hoses?
  
  No, this whole spectacle reeks of ‘kindness’ as per Mallard meted out from day one.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:46am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Just like Jan 6th in DC. The undesirables said they would infiltrate, and they did.
    All Trump’s fault my left tit, yes there is more – another day for that
    
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    March 7, 2022 2:57pm
BeaB

RNZ had a cosy little chat between Suzie and Jacinda this morning.
Corin then got really stuck into Luxon.
Holding power to account?
Don’t make me laugh.
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March 7, 2022 9:06am
- nathie
  
  Heh makes one wonder whether Jacinda gets her office staff to send warm muffins and the finest coffee to RNZ House each morning with a personal “thank you for all the good work you do” note attached each week?? 😉
  
  If so, Suzie isn’t silly, she is definitely not going to “bite the hand that feeds” (as a bit of welcome relief – Morning Report staffers have to rock into work around 3 or 4am to prepare for the show starting at 6am, no wonder why the hosts get grumpy with National)!!
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:16am
- Paulus
  
  Why listen to RNZ Morning – useless twats, including as Women who speaks Maori with a Scottish accent, I am told, and as I am of Scot’s decent so I should know.
  
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  March 7, 2022 11:01am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Who overtalked who?
  NO! I will not bother to find that leftist crap
  
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  March 7, 2022 2:59pm
Brian McDonald

When’s Zelenkskyy going to invite a foreign power in to help secure passage for the refugees leaving Ukraine? Has to be soon, And will the opportunity Ukraine has to access ex-soviet fighter planes materialise to go along with the military hardware pouring in support if so the odds improve for Ukraine.
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March 7, 2022 9:08am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Your geopolitical knowledge is as bad as your medical knowledge. That’s saying something.
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:11am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  All Jaspinda has to do is send an email saying ‘you naughty boys need to stop fighting’
  Inviting refugees is the icing on the top.
  ‘Do you vote Labour?’
  Yes – in.
  ‘Do you vote Labour?’
  No – we don’t want your type
  
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  March 7, 2022 3:02pm
Maggie Pie

Our cleaning lady is Ukrainian. She just retweeted this vid of who she tells us is her grandma (wearing the blue puffer) taking out her anger on a local looter who they’d caught and tied to a tree.

https://twitter.com/ThorDeplorable/status/1500465657393127429
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March 7, 2022 9:12am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Is that one of the crims released by Zelensky to help fight the Russians? Apparently they are becoming a bit of a nuisance those crims. Not quite the hardy “freedom fighters” they hoped they might be, reverting to type being the norm.
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:13am
cmm

Baker is having a sook that people selling positive RATs so that people can get time off are committing fraud.

Yes they are.

But it does beg the question. What other fraud and lies have been committed in the CV19 period. And how many of those are from his, and government mouths?

It seems rather silly to point a finger at these people while letting far worse rascals off the hook.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-omicron-outbreak-offer-to-sell-positive-rat-results-distressing/DAGNPGFIKIERL3XWOBM7A5FFU4/
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March 7, 2022 9:26am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Baker has been a sook all of his life, otherwise he would have a real job
  
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  March 7, 2022 3:04pm
Lee C

After my shameful ‘scaremongering’ yesterday, I thought I’d make sure I had an impeccable source, before I inferred we live in a dystopian nightmare.
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Unfortunately, Stuff will have to do:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/127949237/ipca-receives-more-than-1600-complaints-over-parliament-occupation-fire-association-says-use-of-fire-hoses-by-police-unacceptable
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March 7, 2022 9:41am
Lee C

A further mea culpa from my post yesterday in whihc I unwittingly shared misinformation.
This popped up in my in-tray via another source – it debunks teh claims made:
? LEGAL MISINFORMATION ?
I’ve seen this post going around again, and thought it might be an apt time to reshare my post from 24 January 2022.
My responses are provided after each point with a “➖”.
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THE MOST OVERARCHING, FAR REACHING, TOTALITARIAN LAW EVER PASSED IN NEW ZEALAND…quietly completed its second reading.
The Covid 19 Public Health Response (Vaccinations) Order 2021 comes into effect on April 1st.
➖There are no “readings” of COVID-19 Orders: that’s one of the primary reasons that legal academics are concerned about the orders ➖
This legislation will allow for:
1. The lockdown of unvaccinated or insufficiently vaccinated individuals.
➖ No. However, the COVID-19 Public Health Response (Protections Framework) Order 2021 allows for lockdown measures ➖
2. The ability to restrict travel within the country to unvaccinated or insufficiently vaccinated (e.g. a person who does not want to get a booster shot).
➖ No. However, the COVID-19 Public Health Response (Protections Framework) Order 2021 allows for travel restrictions ➖
3. Withhold certification from those who do not get required boosters or subsequent combinations of vaccines as may be ordered at any time.
➖ No. I don’t know what this means, what “certification.” ➖
4. The ability to dictate the type and form of certification required for proof of vaccination status — digital or otherwise.
➖ No: the Vaccination Order does not require Vaccination Certificates, as it has its own interpretation of what fully vaccinated means for different groups. However, this is covered under the COVID-19 Public Health Response (COVID-19 Vaccination Certificate) Order 2021 ➖
5. The ability to dictate what other information may be required for the renewal of vaccine certificates, and which information may be contained on such a certificate.
➖ No: as above ➖
6. The period for which a vaccine certificate is valid can be changed at any time, and who it is that may be entitled or eligible to have these certificates.
➖ No: as above ➖
7. The specification of mandates for entire job sectors.
➖ Yes: however, the first Vaccination Order came out in April 2021, and there have been a significant number of amendments since. It’s not a ‘new’ concern. ➖
8. The ordering of certain jobs to require regular mandatory testing and medical examination.
➖ Yes: as above. There is additionally the COVID-19 Public Health Response (Required Testing) Order 2021 for testing requirements ➖
9. Enforcement officers to be able to demand certification, pretty much at any time.
➖ No. However, this is a power under the COVID-19 Public Health Response (Protections Framework) Order 2021 and the COVID-19 Public Health Response Act 2020. A police officer can ask for your drivers license at pretty much any time, though ➖
10. The appointment of enforcement officers that can be anybody they wish to appoint, and not necessarily police.
➖ No. However, under the COVID-19 Public Health Response Act 2020, an enforcement officer means the Director-General, a medical officer of health, a constable, or a suitably qualified person authorised by the Director-General (this person must be employed or engaged by a Crown entity)➖
11. Enforcement officers to inspect and take copies of certification to be verified at a later date, before immediately returning such documentation.
➖No – as above ➖
12. The provision of an assessment tool for employers to use to determine who should be vaccine mandated, however employers can totally disregard the assessment tool and mandate at whim.
➖This is a separate Regulation, the COVID-19 Public Health Response (Vaccinations Assessment Tool) Regulations 2021. It is optional ➖
13. Legal or other representatives of employees may be refused entry to workplaces.
➖No. I’m not aware of any legislation or COVID-19 order which supports this ➖
14. Contact tracing information may be used against a person in order to enforce the Act.
➖No. I’m not aware of any legislation or COVID-19 order which supports this ➖
15. Employees who have been dismissed for non-compliance of testing or vaccination, but comply at the last minute, may still be dismissed if the employer deems revoking the dismissal to be disruptive of their business.
➖Not exactly. The Employment Relations Act 2000 was amended, to provide that the notice period is cancelled or has no effect, if the employee gets vaccinated during that time … Unless this would cause “unreasonable” disruption to the business. There is certainly still an avenue for argument here ➖
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SUMMARY: In my view, this is spreading to purposefully incite fear and public reaction.
There is no “Vaccination Order” which takes effect on 1 April 2022 as this post states.
While there is reason to be concerned about some of these powers, they are powers that have been in place for some time: some of which have been challenged unsuccessfully at the High Court.
You only need to have been following my page since March 2021 to know most of this ?
You can see all COVID-19 related legislation, orders and regulations here: http://www.pco.govt.nz/covid-19-legislation/
You can see the status of all Bills tracking through Parliament here: https://www.parliament.nz/…/bills…/bills-proposed-laws/
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March 7, 2022 10:07am
- glowworm
  
  Thanks Lee. Appreciated.
  
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  March 7, 2022 1:59pm
Rusty

Jacinda, Hipkins, Bloomfield and the rest are taking us on a journey alright — as passengers on the Titanic!

Don’t get on board sensible Kiwis –there covid response is the Titanic!
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March 7, 2022 10:08am
- bjools
  
  and they have already struck up the band and have started rearranging the deck chairs.
  
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  March 7, 2022 11:12am
- oldfella
  
  Rusty, Aoyoteearowan Hate Speech Office here.
  Sorry, you can no long say ‘Kiwis’ (with an ‘s’). Listen closely to our media and you’ll now find that ‘kiwis’ has been replaced by the less offensive ‘kiwi’. No ‘s’ at the end of Maori words, which is why ‘Maoris’ was banned.
  Don’t want to be heavy handed, but I’m sure we could find out where you live, and would prefer not to have to send our MM Brownshirts division to pay you a visit.
  Karr Pye, Rusty.
  
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  March 7, 2022 11:13am
tknorriss

A really interesting article here that explains why logistics are a major problem for Russia in Ukraine.

https://www.livemint.com/news/world/how-ukraine-s-rail-network-threw-russia-s-military-off-track-11646541206255.html

According to the article, Russian military tend to rely on rail to transport their supplies, and also tend to run temporary fuel lines to supply fuel to their forces. From the article:

“The problem for Russia is that its military needs to take major cities to access the rail network, Vershinin said by telephone from Virginia. “The other problem is that the Russians have not brought enough manpower,” he said. “This is a huge country, and every time they need to take a city they also have to leave force behind to hold it.””‘

Hence, due to this, and the muddy conditions, at the moment, they are having to move everything by road. This is a problem as they don’t have enough trucks, and this tends to limit their capability to supply resources to their forces further into the country:

”Because of its reliance on rail and pipelines, Russia maintains fewer logistical battalions per combat unit to move material by road than NATO counterparts. As a result, it only has enough trucks to efficiently resupply units up to 90 miles from depots, Vershinin wrote in a November article that in many ways foresaw the delays. To go 180 miles, it needs twice as many.”

So, an obvious strategy for the Ukranians, if Russia does gain control of the rail network, is to relentlessly sabotage the rails so that trains can’t easily travel.

Also, if their are lots of Ukranians wandering the country with anti-tank weapons and the like, it is not hard to imagine them attacking the trains themselves, which would be easy targets I imagine.

A very interesting article, well worth the read.
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March 7, 2022 10:19am
- tknorriss
  
  Further to that, the logistics issue is also a reason why Ukraine should be very cautious about accepting ceasefires, as that gives the Russian army an opportunity to resupply themselves.
  
  In many ways, the logical thing to do would be to force the Russians to keep fighting to amplify the logistical problems as the Russians start running out of ammunition, food, and fuel.
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:22am
  - All_on_Red
    
    This article endorses your comments about the logistical issues the Russians face and how Ukraine is responding
    https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/67331.html
    
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    March 7, 2022 11:17am
    - tknorriss
      
      Yes, that is a good article.
      
      Probably the biggest worry is that Russia resorts to weapons of mass destruction such as biological or chemical.
      
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      March 7, 2022 12:08pm
    - tknorriss
      
      The other thing that is becoming very apparent is that the Russian military machine is nowhere good as what people feared:
      
      https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/did-world-overestimate-strength-russias-military-200994
      
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      March 7, 2022 12:15pm
      - Rusty
        
        tknorris — Ever since the end of ww2 the Soviet Union/Russia have bluffed the west that they are a super military power.
        
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        March 7, 2022 1:19pm
  - Kiwi Dave
    
    It is somewhat ironic that similar logistical factors – reliance on rail, insufficient trucks – which undermined German qualitative operational superiority in Barbarossa 81 years ago, are now working against Russia, though this time the imbalances in force and geography are too great to prevent the aggressor’s victory.
    
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    March 7, 2022 11:42am
    - tknorriss
      
      I think the Southern part has been the easiest for Russia to take, because the logistic issues are not the same there.
      
      Kiev and the surrounding areas might be a bit different though as it is much more difficult to maintain logistical support there, as the stalled convoy demonstrates.
      
      Having huge military superiority doesn’t mean much if it can’t be deployed.
      
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      March 7, 2022 11:56am
Local Miller

I plugged National’s proposed tax bracket changes into my TAX calculator to see their impact. I earn a decent salary, suffice to say in the top 5%, and I get paid weekly. National’s proposed TAX brackets will give me a grand $20 a week extra in my take home pay. A massive 1.0% increase.
To really have an impact the brackets would need to shift closer to: $20,000, $78,000 and $120,000. At these rates we start talking about $110 a week better off, about 6% better off.
Given it’s been 11 years since there were any changes to these TAX brackets, these numbers look more like they actually would help people.
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March 7, 2022 10:25am
- bjools
  
  I don’t trust Robertson to use a pocket calculator.
  Besides he just shoots from the lip, after having read his pre prepared list of socialist dogmatic answers.
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:56am
bjools

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/real-estate/127773204/how-much-harder-is-it-to-buy-a-house-in-2022-than-in-2002

https://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Pacific/New-Zealand/Home-Price-Trends

https://tradingeconomics.com/new-zealand/interest-rate

ie
70% increase under 9 LONG yrs of Helen Clark
30% increase under 9 “long” yrs of John Key
41% increase under 4.5 L O N G yrs of Jacinda Ardern

Interest rates
2000….5%
2008…8%
2017…1.75%
2022…1% and rising

Who…EVER voted Labour…..shame on you.
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March 7, 2022 10:45am
- bjools
  
  Inflation
  https://www.statista.com/statistics/375265/inflation-rate-in-new-zealand/
  Note : from 2021 rates are estimated ….
  couldn’t have been more wrong…
  Many of the same conditions present in the ’80’s are present now.
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:52am
I remember when

Rawiri Waititi: “Our people have been used.”

Will have to bow to greater experience in this area.
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March 7, 2022 10:46am
- bjools
  
  If “your” people have been used
  It is because people like you have prostituted yourself to the Labour party.
  
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  March 7, 2022 11:00am
I remember when

I don’t know what Captain Cook did when he was here but it has certainly had long lasting effects.
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March 7, 2022 10:48am
- bjools
  
  Wild pigs would be one positive
  
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  March 7, 2022 11:02am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Potatoes, metal tools, cabbages, onions, leeks, goats, & chooks.
    
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    March 7, 2022 2:49pm
  - kevn
    
    ‘The Wheel’.
    
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    March 7, 2022 6:45pm
Maggie Pie

Our neighbor asked a very pertinent question….

“Since carrying a concealed weapon is illegal in this country, what law abiding citizen would venture into Queen Street anymore on a Saturday night?”

(I let him know about ‘Oven Spray’ which he hadn’t even thought of.)
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March 7, 2022 10:53am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, after using oven spray you would then have to convince the cops its use was in line with your occupation. Of course… on your way to the Rising Sun cafe to help clean their ovens.
  
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  March 7, 2022 11:07am
- westernScientest
  
  dont say that too loud, Oven Spray will get band
  
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  March 7, 2022 11:38am
- marcw
  
  Better off using wasp spray – has a concentrated spray with a long reach, and legitimate to claim you are protecting yourself from the ‘Killer Bees’.
  
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  March 7, 2022 2:32pm
cas

By the way a first world problem I know but is anyone able to tell me if you can buy Beer Lao in NZ?
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March 7, 2022 10:54am
- Jimmy Brown
  
  Check out Asian food shops/warehouses. There is one in ChCh called Big T and they may sell it.
  
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  March 7, 2022 11:37am
  - cas
    
    Thanks. And the downtickers must be wowsers.
    
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    March 7, 2022 4:15pm
graham

*** Note to self: don’t read pieces like this with coffee in the vicinity of keyboard. ***

NZ Herald tries, again, to explain that they’re really not biased, that “more than ever, people are trusting us to deliver factual, timely and balanced news.”

(Keyboard sprayed with coffee at this point).

They go on to explain that “Unlike social media channels they (our readers) are reading content compiled and presented by editorial staff who have spent hours verifying and checking facts.”

(Damn! Keyboard sprayed with more coffee).

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/we-invited-our-readers-to-grill-nzh-editors-they-didnt-hold-back/H7IHBYAG46VVYPPVDTF2PY77WE/

When we decided to run a live Q&A with three NZ Herald editors on Friday, we expected a steady stream of questions. We got a deluge.

Our subscribers didn’t hold back – and, as Alexander noted in her reply to a question about political balance – that’s OK: “We’re not a left-leaning – or anything-leaning – publication. We publish the news, straight up. It’s our job to hold the government of the day to account, which we do irrespective of who’s in the Beehive.

I have read through this, and there is so much I could say, but I think it’s best summed up as follows:

Dear MSM – explaining is losing.

One comment, from “Steven W”, expresses my own personal opinion quite well:

I don’t believe the Herald, or most mainline media in this country, publish propaganda. However, they can use alarmist headlines and carefully edited articles to sell newspapers. I get that. When articles are political, the results can be dramatic. Look at what’s happening right now with empty shops, cafes, offices etc. A large amount of people are afraid of Omicron because of what they’ve seen on TV or read in the paper. The government and their advisors obviously have their own agendas too. It’s up to us to decide how to filter it.

And the Herald pretty much brushes it under the carpet with their response:

Murray K: Thanks Steven. We try very hard not to publish alarmist headlines etc. We do appreciate your main points, however.

Oh come on, just who do they think they’re kidding? I see more clickbait headlines on the NZ Herald than I see on YouTube and Facebook combined.
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March 7, 2022 11:04am
- Pineapple Lumps
  
  Clickbait example from last Friday
  
  Covid update: 22,537 cases, 5 deaths
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:34pm
I remember when

John Tierney: NY Timews; 23/3/21: Opinion:
Data shows lockdowns end more lives than they save:
The 2020 figures have been properly tallied, there is no convincing evidence strict lockdowns reduced covid death toll.
Excess mortality rose among older Americans because of covid, but it rose at a sharper rate among those 15 to 54, and most of those deaths were not attributed to the virus.
Some could be undetected covid, and some may not be related to the pandemic or lockdowns.
There was a sharp decline in emergency room visits, and an increase in fatal heart attacks.
Many fewer people were screened for cancer.
Social isolation contributed to excess deaths from dementia and Alzheimers.
The number killed in motor-vehicle accidents was the highest in a decade, even with significantly less driving.
It was the steepest fatality rate per mile increase in nearly a century, apparently due to more substance abuse and more high speed driving.
More than two dozen studies show closing businesses and schools does little, or nothing, to reduce infections or deaths from the virus.
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March 7, 2022 11:09am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Many experts attempted many times to warn of this at the outset. They were shut down, smeared and vilified by mainstream media at the behest of governments. It was a disgusting targeting of esteemed academics including Simon Thornley from Auckland University, a lone voice out of that establishment. A quietly spoken, intelligent man, obviously concerned for what was going to happen in NZ.
  The subsequent public lynchings and attacks were a disgrace, while charlatans and clowns, like Hendy, Wiles, Plank and Jackson got lauded and praised for doing nothing other than promoting Ardern’s single source of truth.
  Professor Thornley has been proven correct. I look forward to the profuse apologies from the mainstream media. Of course I won’t be holding my breath.
  
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  March 7, 2022 4:14pm
Dougal10

ODT today . PM doesn’t think rapidly rising food prices are a crisis . Is this because it is actually government policy to have food price inflation ?
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March 7, 2022 11:10am
- ClanMcleod
  
  She blames everything on covid, conveniently forgetting that covid didn’t do squat. Her inane responses to a seasonal virus is what destroyed much of the economy, many lives, families and friendships. Well played princess.
  
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  March 7, 2022 4:15pm
- Pineapple Lumps
  
  Prime Minister says “rapidly rising food prices not a crisis. Let them eat cake.”
  
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  March 7, 2022 10:35pm
G the giant from Dunedin

Say what you like about Luxon, but he stood at the pulpit, ( not the pulpit of truth that Cindy lies at) he spoke constantly for 24 minutes, no notes, no bullet points, just 24 minutes of frank words summing up the mess this country is in, if you don’t believe me go look, he never once looked down to the lectern, very refreshing, now compare that with Arderns word for word read of someone else’s prepared statements, and say who you think is better prepared to lead this country
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March 7, 2022 11:20am
- RightNow
  
  Rodney Hide, Matt King, Leighton Baker
  
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  March 7, 2022 2:30pm
Maggie Pie

And here’s something else that really pee’s me off…

Don’t know if anyone else here has experienced it?
But just about every time lately that I come out of the Supermarket, you can guarantee there’s some inconsiderate pr*ck in a big black Ford Ranger with a yuge chrome towbar sticking out, has parked hard up against me. Takes ages to safely back out.
I’m going to start carrying a few of those Z Nails with me in future.
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March 7, 2022 12:10pm
- Rusty
  
  Haven’t noticed that but I have noticed beggars sitting outside supermarket entrances asking for spare change money whether verbally or with a sign.
  
  Aren’t these people on private property?
  
  One ratbag regularly stands on a traffic island entrance to the car park with a sign and then takes off when spotted — hes been doing this since last year.
  
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  March 7, 2022 1:29pm
- glowworm
  
  obviously we are in need of an additional “Black Ford Ranger tax”, on top of the standard Ute tax, and fuel tax….
  
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  March 7, 2022 2:10pm
- Mike
  
  I’d love to see some stats about how often those enormous things carry anything that actually needs to go in a truck, let alone go anywhere off road.
  
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  March 7, 2022 3:45pm
Warren

Business Leader Kirk Hope backs Christopher Luxon’s proposal to scrap all Labour- introduced Taxes.
But it seems Jacinda Ardern our Prime Minister, Grant Robertson our Finance Minister the Mayor of Auckland Phil Goff and the media don’t understand that it’s not a tax cut, so are making every excuse in the world to discredit it .
https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/300534063/business-leader-backs-christopher-luxons-proposal-to-scrap-all-labourintroduced-taxes
With all the millions that have been wasted by this Government like cycling lane they did on the Auckland Harbour Bridge as a example then have the gaul to criticize National for implying that they are going to limit the waste by removing they gravy train you have is beyond belief.
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March 7, 2022 12:32pm
surfing

Fun fact:: Indians wanting to become doctors often choose to study/train in the Ukraine (don’t know why, but they do).

With the war, thousands (18k to be exact) of trainee indian medical doctors have returned to their homes in india. …now they want their government to recognise them and help them to finish their training.

Bring the ones almost done here, finish off their training, and let them fix our doctor shortage.
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March 7, 2022 12:40pm
- glowworm
  
  We also have a major shortage of nurses. I have heard that a local rest home has many spare beds, not due to demand, but due to not enough nurses to staff them….
  
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  March 7, 2022 2:27pm
  - artemisia
    
    I understand that quite a few nurses in rest homes took up roles as vaccinators. And some have moved to DHB roles – better pay. And over the ditch as well.
    
    Some rest homes have closed down, can’t make a buck. The elderly population continues to grow and if the private sector can’t care for those who need it the state will have to.
    
    Bit like rentals.
    
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    March 7, 2022 4:46pm
- Jack5
  
  We’ve got racial quotas for doctor training in NZ, and non-Maori have bugger all places.
  
  Do you want to make it impossible for Chinese and European New Zealanders to become doctors?
  
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  March 7, 2022 3:07pm
oldfella

I think stuffed today managed to come up with something that actually qualified as a political cartoon. More, more…
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/cartoons/127160205/steve-bolton-cartoons
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March 7, 2022 12:40pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  I’m sure Stuff has marched Steve off to a reeducation camp.
  
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  March 7, 2022 3:06pm
- bjools
  
  How’d that get past cindy’s sensors?
  
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  March 7, 2022 7:55pm
rouppe

I heard this morning that Labour is spending millions on “social listening”.

Aka looking at social media posts to get a sense of the mood.

Maybe I should make a public post expressing my feelings
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March 7, 2022 1:16pm
- All_on_Red
  
  ‘social spying’ more like
  Getting evidence to justify Hate Speech aka No Free Speech laws
  
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  March 7, 2022 2:05pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Wasn’t there a protest march a few years ago when National was in power against an imagined activity being undertaken by the GCSB whereby they were alleged to be spying on NZers.
    An old maxim applies here, it’s different when the left do it eh.
    
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    March 7, 2022 2:21pm
Maggie Pie

A bestie txts from the city.

Scrawled on the billboard outside Saint Matthews…

‘HETEROSEXUALS – preventing extinction for over 2 million years’
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March 7, 2022 1:31pm
- MCōs
  
  Notably that’s not a Catholic Church, most of whose priests do nothing to contribute to the continuation of the species.
  
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  March 7, 2022 2:12pm
  - Mike
    
    What do you mean? Priests make an enormous contribution by fighting to prevent women from controlling their fertility.
    “Every sperm is sacred”, etc.
    
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    March 7, 2022 6:18pm
    - bjools
      
      To play devils advocate”
      As I believe in abortion and contraception
      Abstinence does control birth.
      
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      March 7, 2022 7:52pm
- Yabster
  
  lol nice
  
  I like the tshirt sometimes advertised on this site.
  
  I’m Fat
  But I identify as skinny
  I’m trans slender…
  
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  March 7, 2022 3:27pm
Nickc2

Ya gotta love it!
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March 7, 2022 1:34pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Couple of studies reviewed by Dr John Campbell, including a huge (100k participants) Brazilian study on Ivermectin shows unequivocally that it greatly reduces risk of death from covid: https://youtu.be/rfyOihhAD4A

The colossal scandal of the pandemic is the dirty campaign waged by Big Pharma and their establishment mouthpieces (as well as via regulatory capture) against the use of this cheap safe drug, which could have saved up to several million lives (eg more than half of 6million dead to date). Will there ever be an accounting for that unnecessary mega-death?
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March 7, 2022 1:37pm
Surely Knott

Actor Taron Egerton faints onstage in the UK reports the herald.

This follows onstage fainting events by Chelsea Handler and Comedian Heather McDonald.

Heather McDonald was interviewed with TV Doctor Dr Drew who says fainting is a side effect of the vaccine. That he thinks it’s caused by POTTS syndrome. From Health Navigator,”If you have POTS, your body doesn’t automatically quickly correct the drop in blood supply to your brain caused when you sit or stand up. Your heart rate increases to make up for this drop in blood pressure.” Symptoms include fainting.

DR Drew says 2-3 weeks after the booster is when they typically see symptoms after the booster. His friend “got destroyed by it still can’t walk across the room….There’s a lot of funny stuff that we don’t really know what it all is and where it’s all coming from…but it’s still worth doing it. It’s still worth the risk”.

Heather McD/ Dr Drew interview. https://youtu.be/0ml0UhlQxBk?t=132
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March 7, 2022 1:47pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Steve C P Otto
So eagles ingest lead fragments from carrion, but humans don’t ingest lead from dead animal meat?
Something is wrong with the thinking here – the nutters have escaped the asylum again.
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/nssf-now-theyre-trying-to-ban-hunters-from-using-traditional-ammo/?
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March 7, 2022 1:51pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Going after hunters is maybe not a good idea? …..
  
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  March 7, 2022 1:53pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Had to laugh this morning when I got a tin of airgun pellets and it carried a warning label “Contains Lead”.
  
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  March 7, 2022 3:03pm
  - bjools
    
    Turn the label into a head band and give it to Grant Roberson.
    
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    March 7, 2022 6:27pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

Report from the front line.

The grass in front of parliament is still there. Looks dried out like a sun bleached paddock in the Hawkes Bay. The roses in front of the General Assembly Library are in good health. There’s some blackening of the timber supports under Trevor’s slide, akin to the artfully scorched weatherboards you see on Grand Designs. The grass in front of the Law School is green, apart from dry patches where the tents were pitched. All trees present & correct.

Conclusion: site carnage reported by the media is a massive beat up.

No surprises there.
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March 7, 2022 2:01pm
Maggie Pie

ZBNews

Four newly completed houses at South Auckland’s
Clover Park were burnt to the ground in the early hours of this morning.
Police are treating the fires as suspicious.

No shit Sherlock?
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March 7, 2022 2:03pm
- The Housekeeper
  
  All the bathrooms were destroyed so Police have nowhere to go.
  
  Forelock tug to Billy T
  
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  March 8, 2022 2:49pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Ammo for Ukraine?
https://ourpatriot.com/nascar-owner-donates-ammunition-to-ukraine/?
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March 7, 2022 2:03pm
- bjools
  
  There are munitions manufacturers in NZ. Maybe we could do the same?
  
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  March 7, 2022 2:36pm
  - Jack5
    
    But which ammunition?
    
    Ukraine in the last two or three years has been re-equipping its army with M-16 type rifles. Yet photographs coming from the fighting show many using Kalashnikovs, of the AKM model. This has been displaced, or is being displaced, in the Russian Army by the newer AK74. The AK74 rifles fire smaller, 5.45mm ammunition.
    
    The Ukrainians’ Kalashnikov AKM rifles being shown in photographs fire the 7.62×39mm Soviet intermediate cartridge.
    
    Here’s what an American gun enthusiast says is likely to happen to supply of the 7.62x39mm ammunition in the West:
    
    They [the Ukrainians] will demand that the West ship them all the 7.62×39 ammo Nato and the EU can find and send it for free, real fast. When this happens the logistics types (yet again) will start issuing purchase orders for every round of available 7.62×39 on the free market. This of course will cause the 7.62×39 [ammunition] to disappear.
    
    The gun enthusiast likens the expected demand for the older Kalashnikov ammunition to the rush that cleaned out huge stockpiles of .303 ammunition in the 1970s. That was a buy-up to supply Afghan hill tribesmen then still using old Lee-Enfield .303 rifles. That ended cheap .303 shooting for Western hobbyists.
    
    https://www.ammoland.com/2014/04/russian-7-62-x-39-ammo-will-disapear/
    
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    March 7, 2022 8:45pm
All_on_Red

So often we see comments here that Election Fraud in the US is a myth.
Well, Ballot Harvesting has been going on for years.
Heres an explainer
https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2022-3-5-wisconsin-report-reveals-how-systematic-election-fraud-is-done
Here is the Special Counsels Report (hes an ex State Supreme Court Judge)
https://thefederalist.com/2022/03/03/wisconsin-special-counsel-finds-widespread-election-fraud-in-2020-nursing-homes/
And heres one of those who paid for what is effectively Vote buying by fraudulent means.
https://nypost.com/2021/10/13/how-mark-zuckerberg-helped-dems-sway-the-2020-election/

This happened everywhere where the Rules around Absentee Voting were relaxed due to Covid- although this has been going on for years.
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March 7, 2022 2:35pm
surfing

When did maoris get the power to evict people from public beaches?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/anti-vaccine-mandate-protesters-disparage-iwi-laugh-at-haka-after-standoff-at-auckland-beach/HNN7XPGFKKJOR6OCJ5D42CMQ5M/
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March 7, 2022 2:35pm
- Mike
  
  Expect a general decline in public order after a lawless rabble blocked streets in the capital for weeks.
  
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  March 7, 2022 5:07pm
Maggy Wassilieff

ACT refutes Jacinda Ardern’s claim

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2203/S00040/act-refutes-pms-wasteful-spending-claim.htm

And as David Seymour clearly understands the meaning of the word refutes, he supplies copious evidence of this Governments’s wasteful spending.
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March 7, 2022 3:00pm
Master Mariner

Mean while Energy security is starting to Rise in the Uninitiated.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Oil-Prices/Oil-Prices-Break-130-As-EU-And-US-Allies-Consider-Ban-On-Russian-Oil.html
There is no easy fix for this and ramifications will be around for along time.
I personally believe this has been Putin’s “End Game” knowing full well this will cripple the West.
Energy security.
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March 7, 2022 3:18pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

This is what happens when you get ‘snackered’
https://rumble.com/vvnzrp-pelosi-apparently-thinks-hungary-and-ukraine-are-the-same-country.html?
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March 7, 2022 3:47pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

‘Putin’s mistress is currently hiding out in a very private and secure location.
She supposedly has four children with the 69 year old Russian dictator.
Allina Kabaeva (38), was once called….. Russia’s most flexible woman’ 😛

https://twitter.com/MailOnline/status/1500660052692287490

(Just told my partner he needn’t get any silly-ideas either)
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March 7, 2022 4:03pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  I saw that picture and wondered how the hell could she do that and what else could she do?
  
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  March 7, 2022 5:08pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Have you noticed that most Russian women don’t ‘age’ well?
    Our cleaning lady is in her early 50’s yet looks older than my partner’s mum.
    
    Just saying.
    
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    March 7, 2022 5:26pm
    - MCōs
      
      How many cleaning women do you have?
      
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      March 7, 2022 5:46pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      They have a shorter life-span than we do…
      https://knoema.com/atlas/Russian-Federation/topics/Demographics/Age/Female-life-expectancy-at-birth
      
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      March 7, 2022 5:50pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Tatiana used to work for my partner and his ex-wife before I even met him. His ex and Tats were friends from the Ukraine. She still has long blond hair and looks ok from a distance. One of our neighbors asked me once if she was my mother!
        
        LOL!! She’s only 4 years older than me.
        
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        March 7, 2022 6:41pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        You should be careful
        Looks like your pardner has history in trading things in for a younger and better version
        You might lose your imaginary Porsche
        
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        March 7, 2022 9:46pm
- kevn
  
  Putin almost smiling. Must be full of tricks.
  
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  March 7, 2022 5:57pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh Gosh,
A bunch of out-of control law-breaking yoofs super-spreading covid to the masses.

What’s the betting they are alt-right, gullible ferals?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/127976507/student-parties-attended-by-hundreds-leave-neighbours-fearing-superspreader-event

Oh woops..
They are the privileged sons & daughters of nice people.
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March 7, 2022 4:14pm
NZer In Exile

Sir Bob bails on NZ Labour shit show. Many to follow I would think.

https://nopunchespulled.com/2022/03/02/farewell/
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March 7, 2022 4:20pm
ClanMcleod

Mark Crispin Miller tweets –

Here’s the CDC director going very easy on herself, and on her worse-than-useless agency, for what she represents as wishful thinking, in having readily swallowed CNN’s report of 95% “vaccine” effectiveness. Note too her disingenuous lament that “nobody said” anything about certain variants possibly eluding the “vaccine,” or about the “waning” impact of the shots:

“we had too little caution and perhaps too much optimism”. – no shit Sherlock.

https://twitter.com/MichaelPSenger/status/1499902332980523008?s=20&t=brmkkwjEdrA76aIam20jIw
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March 7, 2022 4:22pm
bjools

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
Albert Einstein

“It gives me great pleasure indeed to see the stubbornness of an incorrigible nonconformist warmly acclaimed.”
A person whose behavior or views do not conform to prevailing ideas or practices. That’s the definition of a nonconformist. And in today’s world of marketing another word bandied about is “disruption.” Be a disruptor. Be a nonconformist. Challenge traditional ways and means.

Albert Einstein

I remember one of my teachers at College, stood up and said “all conformists go to the front of the room and all non- conformists to the back”
My 2 mates and I were the only ones at the front.
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March 7, 2022 4:32pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  So the non-conformists conformed to the instruction
  
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  March 7, 2022 6:56pm
  - bjools
    
    Such is the paradox of following someone else’s instructions and not thinking for yourself.
    
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    March 7, 2022 7:40pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Thought I’d better check out the list of 100 Russians who are banned from travelling to NZ.

https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/media-and-resources/implementation-of-travel-bans-on-individuals-associated-with-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine

Can’t really imagine that any of them was contemplating a holiday down-under anytime soon.

However,
Pyotr Tolstoy could give it a try as MFAT have conveniently misspelt his surname.
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March 7, 2022 4:47pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Can’t see any mention of that Ruskie oligarch up North that owns ‘Helena Lodge’.
  My partner was saying the share price in his Russian Steel Company has dropped from $14 to a couple of bucks.
  
  Could be a few bargains to be had?
  
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  March 7, 2022 5:09pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    He might be in the Maldives….
    
    but isn’t he building a load of houses for us?
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/127908852/new-zealands-richest-russian-investor-in-the-spotlight-after-invasion
    
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    March 7, 2022 5:40pm
    - bjools
      
      Now it makes sense,as to why she took so long to do anything.
      
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      March 7, 2022 7:42pm
ClanMcleod

Covid deaths continue to decline in the unvaccinated but not in the vaccinated. More real world data destroying the modelers’ narratives.

https://dailysceptic.org/2022/03/06/covid-deaths-continue-to-decline-in-the-unvaccinated-but-not-in-the-vaccinated-ukhsa-data-show/
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March 7, 2022 5:11pm
Warren

Chris Luxon joins Simon Bridges in testing positive for Covid – 19.
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March 7, 2022 5:19pm
andretti

The Divorce Diaries: ‘I’ve split with my husband because he is an anti-vaxxer – and I am a nurse’
Article on Stuff.
This guy will be way better off when she leaves,the poor sod will need time to realize that’s all.
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March 7, 2022 5:29pm
- bjools
  
  reminded me of an Al Murray joke about the American war of independence
  “They (US) see it as a win, we see it as a lucky fucken escape”
  Guess he can see it that way too.
  
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  March 7, 2022 7:46pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  “I’m a nurse” as if that’s proof of superior knowledge. My mate’s a mechanic but he can’t do squat with my fuel injected 90hp outboard. Knows nothing about it. This nurse will be the same re virology.
  
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  March 7, 2022 9:20pm
andretti

The Criminal Code of the Russian Federation’s section on “hooliganism” states that it is “is defined as grave violation of public order, which expresses open disrespect to society.”
8 years in prison.
NZ Govt to enact new law to control protesters.
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March 7, 2022 5:46pm
- bjools
  
  But not one’s they agree with or may cost them votes.
  
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  March 7, 2022 7:47pm
Maggie Pie

According to my Dictionary….. if you ‘refute’ something, then you are required ‘to provide proof that it was actually false’.

Have you ever once seen Jacinda actually do that?

The one who is lavish with words is cheap with deeds.
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March 7, 2022 5:55pm
- Paul Marsden
  
  A real journalist would ask her that and stand their ground until answered in full
  
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  March 7, 2022 6:11pm
kevn

Very good. Yes, she be the word soup queen.
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