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Tony Stuart

It looks as though the Labour Party is a bit spooked by the avalanche of submissions coming in against the Three Waters legislation:

The Labour Party is using its supporters’ mailing list to ask for help and to back its Three Waters proposals as submissions close on the legislation that will give effect to the key part of the reforms.

National’s local government spokesman Simon Watts is calling the move “desperate”, saying it shows Labour is worried the committee will be overwhelmed by submissions against the controversial scheme.

On Friday, Labour’s Campaigns Team sent an email to people on its mailing list – usually reserved for Labour Party fundraising and events – asking them to make a submission to Parliament’s Finance and Expenditure Committee on the Water Services Entities Bill, the main legislation that will give effect to Three Waters reforms.

“We’re taking the next steps on Three Waters – and we want to hear from you,” the email read.

The 250-word email contained three links to Parliament’s website where people can make a submission on the bill.

“Submissions close next Friday. Don’t miss your opportunity to have your say on this important reform,” read one link.

While it is not unprecedented for political parties to ask supporters to submit on legislation, it is fairly uncommon.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/labour-asks-supporters-to-back-three-waters-in-parliament/4KUYN7GIEVFYYYGI5J433L5C3M/

It would be hugely embarrassing to Labour is submissions to the Finance and Expenditure Committee were weighted heavily against Three Waters. So Labour is trying to motivate its base.

But the Taxpayers Union is doing it better. Go to the Stop Three Waters page – https://www.stopthreewaters.nz/ – and click on the red “Make a submission” button. From there, it’s dead easy, and you can customise your submission as it suits you. You can also choose whether to request to appear before the select committee, and you can ask committee members to get on the road and go to the provinces to hear submissions, rather than sit in Wellington and expect submitters to come to them; after all, this is supposedly about engaging communities!

Submissions close next Friday, so don’t wait; do it today. The Labour Party needs to hear than an overwhelming number of Kiwis oppose Three Waters.
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December 16, 2021 9:27am
- amospicton
  
  There was more scare porn on One News last night about the quality of our drinking water. Would love to know the origins of that piece of blatant propaganda.
  
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  July 16, 2022 10:12am
  - Nickc2
    
    I believe it had the Minister of Broadcasting’s letter head on it. //
    
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    July 16, 2022 12:56pm
    - Jim
      
      I’m really tired of this Soviet style government controlled propaganda, especially the infantile cartoon ones.
      
      But history dictates that it will come to a head when people’s reality doesn’t match the narrative.
      
      Somehow I think this tipping point has been reached already.
      
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      July 17, 2022 7:30am
- NK
  
  Thanks for the reminder Tony.
  
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  July 16, 2022 10:24am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Sub editor off message

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/300638675/just-two-weeks-supply-of-important-antianxiety-medication-left-in-nz
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July 16, 2022 8:05am
- piglady
  
  Should we expect more antisocial behavior now?
  
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  July 16, 2022 9:44am
- cmm
  
  Byline:
  
  Time for a top up: just $500k of $55m left.
  
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  July 16, 2022 9:48am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Great news for anyone suffering from anxiety…….
  
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  July 16, 2022 9:49am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Our worse than useless health bureaucracy already made Xanax unavailable in NZ without any satisfactory substitutes which has badly impacted the life of a relative who suffers from panic attacks. But the bureaucracy doesn’t have to care so they don’t. Scum.
    
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    July 16, 2022 10:32am
    - Ian Boag
      
      Xanax is a benzo and regarded as somewhat addictive. Ativan is a similar anti-anxiety drug. Basically worked over versions of valium. If there is a Xanax shortage in NZ it is presumably related to internationl supply
      issues …
      
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      July 16, 2022 7:51pm
- jgw739
  
  Interesting. I wonder how many other drugs are unavailable right now?
  
  I am giving up smoking and have been told that Champix (a successful drug) is not currently available.
  
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  July 16, 2022 5:14pm
Matt Long

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/cost-of-living-crisis-new-zealand-voted-second-worst-country-to-move-to/A6QHYJL343H4HM7UVA5FLV6AVA/
New Zealand second from top in the worst country to immigrate to as voted by immigrants, can Labour beat Kuwait at the top by the end of their term or do they need three more years?
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July 16, 2022 8:07am
- Scott
  
  Matt – when I look at New Zealand and our slide in every social indicator, I marvel at our Prime Minister whose main effort, whose main focus, is to get us to wear masks more! She reminds me of the police officer at Uvalde,in Texas, who while schoolchildren were being shot, calmly went over to the hand sanitiser to sanitise his hands. In both cases we have authority figures who are totally focused on minor things and ignoring the main thing.
  
  Here in New Zealand we are supposedly open for business, open for tourism and rebuilding our country after two years of covid and lockdowns. We need to get our borders open, we need to get our health sector working, we need to build thousands of houses, we need to sort out our education system where apparently something like 40% of children are not at school on any given day. Crime is out of control and we have shootings and ram raids almost on a daily basis.
  
  But where is the Prime Minister’s attention? She wants us to continue being a smug little hermit Kingdom at the bottom of the world, masking up, believing that will do anything to stop the spread of covid, while our country slides downwards on every conceivable social measure.
  As Mike Hosking said yesterday, maybe this is deliberate? Maybe she wants us to be scuttling around wearing masks, obeying her commands, living in fear, maybe that’s the vision? A frightened little socialist hermit Kingdom at the bottom of the world. Where we all become more equal all right. We all become equally miserable.
  
  For the love of all that is holy, can we please have a leader who will step up and offer a vision. A life-giving vision, a vision of prosperity and hope. Surely, surely, we can be better than this?!
  
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  July 16, 2022 8:37am
  - pdm
    
    It is harder for protesters outside the Kindy’s she visits to shout at her if they are wearing masks..
    
    That is so obviously her thinking.
    
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    July 16, 2022 9:17am
  - wilderbeast
    
    Very well put. I’ve realised too that certain control freak type politicians sign up to manufactured “crises” as a means of exerting power and control over the populace: covid and climate change being the two in vogue right now, and in NZ winter flu now being used as well. Seems so obvious now, I must have been under a rock
    
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    July 16, 2022 9:31am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      It’s been years of deliberate psychological manipulation. Once you see it you can’t unsee it. This is the problem facing Brenda and her WEF buddies around the world. People are waking up.
      
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      July 16, 2022 9:53am
      - kowtow
        
        Some people are , but sadly there’s still a queue , a long one , at the Kool Aid counter.
        
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        July 16, 2022 9:57am
  - rouppe
    
    She wasn’t walking the walk while overseas. She was routinely in meetings with strangers without a mask, including hugging others.
    
    While there might not be masking mandates where she was, if she believed it, she would do it.
    
    That she doesn’t shows her to be a two faced liar
    
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    July 16, 2022 9:35am
    - Scooter
      
      Don’t you know her smile is her biggest asset, can’t have a mask covering those gnashers from the overseas press.
      
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      July 16, 2022 7:15pm
  - Sacha
    
    I have come to believe that the PM has no choice but to milk her management of the pandemic to the last drop as she tries to ensure a win in the next election.
    She has listened to her advisors for over 2 years, but I suspect that it has dawned on her that maybe, just maybe, she has been sold a pup.
    Couldn’t happen to a nicer person . . . . . .
    
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    July 16, 2022 10:42am
    - Rodion Raskolnikov
      
      The trouble with the “milking the pandemic” strategy is that this isn’t 2020 anymore: the more time progresses, the more that either people understand the implications of the mountains of infection and vaccine data, and/or the more their own direct personal experience of Covid tells them that having the virus is an inconvenience at most, then the more the tide goes out on Ardern’s ability to distort reality and manipulate people for political gain. What goes up, always must come down, and this is true of the effects of political propaganda.
      
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      July 16, 2022 1:34pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Open for business? And planes going back to Aussie are being forced to stop in CHCH to refuel, that’s third world bullshit
    
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    July 16, 2022 11:50am
- ClanMcleod
  
  That’s some special kind of achievement for Brenda’s CV. Bravo.
  
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  July 16, 2022 8:47am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Second worse? I wonder who will take responsibility for that?
  Must be that dam Covid again, no way it could be anything else//
  
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  July 16, 2022 8:52am
  - Matt Long
    
    It’s because of international trends that are out of Cindy’s control, the war in Ukraine, that kind of thing.
    
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    July 16, 2022 8:57am
    - Matt Long
      
      Otherwise we’d be beating Kuwait already.
      
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      July 16, 2022 8:58am
    - Tricati
      
      Maybe its the 9 years of neglect finally catching up (sarc) – couldn’t possibly be the most inept government in NZ history lead by an attention seeking narcissist.
      
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      July 16, 2022 9:12am
      - Don Beckett
        
        Thank you Winston Peters. //
        
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        July 16, 2022 11:21am
      - Nickc2
        
        Don Beckett @11:21AM
        Sorry, reported in error.
        Agree, without him (Winston), there’d be no her (Cindy). If ever he wanted to leave his mark on political life in Lil-olde-NZ, it was anointing her as PM and making us suffer ever since.
        Unfortunately, I can’t see us reverting to state one normal anytime soon, with or without a change of Govt.
        
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        July 16, 2022 11:47am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    It was the Russians. Obviously.
    
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    July 16, 2022 9:23am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Hillary told you that didn’t she?
      Careful now, it’s Hillary you know (there are rumours….)
      
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      July 16, 2022 10:11am
- MCōs
  
  It was a survey of expats not immigrants, which is entirely different.
  The former consider themselves temporary and the latter permanent.
  Thais, for example, immigrate to NZ & are never going to be part of a survey like this, but Kiwis in Thailand are ex pats.
  
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  July 16, 2022 8:55am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Not sure to untick or downtick. Good point, so uptick.
    
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    July 16, 2022 8:57am
    - Biscuit
      
      I like ‘Dilemma’ posts, Steve.
      The ‘Do I agree?’ ot ‘Do I not?’ decision-making.
      The thinking that is involved…
      
      Am in a particularly-happy mood today – belly-filled with scrambled eggs and bacon, being just about to go watch ‘my’ littlie play Schoolboy Rugby and – tonight – a Test for the ages to go watch DOES that to me, heh – so I have upticked you both!
      
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      July 16, 2022 9:14am
      - pdm
        
        Bscuit – what happened to Trentham.
        
        Get along there and watch the Hawkes Bay trained (Nelson/McDougal) horses clean up the jumps card – again.
        
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        July 16, 2022 9:21am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Mac is a leftie, but I don’t automatically downtick. He says a lot the I agree with.
        Mike however – not so much.
        
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        July 16, 2022 10:52am
  - cmm
    
    MCos, it is somewhat valid to make a distinction between immigrants and expats, but only to a point.
    
    There is still a massive overlap of concerns – particularly around cost of living and healthcare.
    
    Immigrants (well the right sort of immigrant anyway) are more concerned with a few things like employment opportunities and tend to be younger and more concerned about family stuff like schools.
    
    Unfortunately NZ is performing extremely poorly in those areas too.
    
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    July 16, 2022 9:54am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Yes totally agree. Let’s say you are posted to New Zealand with a young family. You are concerned about schools, the cost of feeding the family, the cost of transport, health care. New Zealand is now abysmal on all of those. You can add in crime.
      
      At least we still have fantastic geography with beautiful places to visit on the weekends. Until we cannot afford petrol. ☹️
      
      So yes it is a survey of expats, but it is a highly alarming result. So refude that Jacinda. 🤡
      
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      July 16, 2022 10:09am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Yes you are quite correct. However it remains an alarming result.
    
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    July 16, 2022 10:02am
- artemisia
  
  2021 – New Zealand and Australia both in the top 10 (7 and 8 respectively).
  
  https://www.internations.org/expat-insider/2021/best-and-worst-places-for-expats-40108
  
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  July 16, 2022 9:08am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  It takes 9 long years to undo the damage caused by nine long years of National. So give us one more term at least – Cindy the great Queen of NZ.
  
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  July 16, 2022 10:35am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They have made a rapid start on health and education.
    
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    July 16, 2022 11:52am
Lee C

“Arguing against the Government of the day is akin to ‘Domestic Terrorism.'”

Discuss.
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July 16, 2022 8:08am
- MCōs
  
  In Myanmar those who resist being killed by the military are referred to as terrorists.
  
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  July 16, 2022 8:24am
- G152
  
  Voting them into oblivion iustified
  
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  July 16, 2022 8:25am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The way to arrest Domestic Terrorism is to take the guns away from the Law abiding….
  Good job Brenda.
  
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  July 16, 2022 8:54am
Matt Long

As noted on the BFD the WEF website has deep sixed Sri Lanka’s Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe, “This is how I will make my country rich by 2025.” from their website.
https://thebfd.co.nz/2022/07/15/the-great-reset-comes-to-sri-lanka/
It’s a shame that his policies can’t be deleted from New Zealand’s government.
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July 16, 2022 8:13am
- RockyJ
  
  I saw that too. Sorry, down ticked you by mistake. Almost funny. The progressives in their government were going to make the economy run on organic farming, go green and centrally controlled.
  Jacinda will just say “we will do it better”
  It is almost funny if it wasn’t so tragic.
  
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  July 16, 2022 8:18am
  - NK
    
    No. Labour will fuck it up. National will do it better.
    
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    July 16, 2022 10:33am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  More than Policies need to be deleted – from not just the Govt, from all of the Public Sector. The whole thing is infested with socialists.
  
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  July 16, 2022 9:05am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Sri Lanka needs urgent changes. For example, I heard last night that it spend twice as much on its military as it does on public health and education combined. Instead of pointing to an obvious area for spending reform, I expect this just indicates that the country will become a military dictatorship.
  
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  July 16, 2022 9:13am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Just like NZ under Brenda.
    
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    July 16, 2022 9:25am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Fresh tripe from the clan.
      
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      July 16, 2022 9:43am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        This government failing on every single issue is tripe clansman
        
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        July 16, 2022 11:55am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Boom!!
      
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      July 16, 2022 10:18am
  - krazykiwi
    
    While Sri Lanka’s centrally planned, socialist eco-lunacy is plain for all to see, milky instead directs our attention to a vast herd of grazing squirrels.
    
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    July 16, 2022 9:59am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    That is not what has caused the crisis. Two years ago it was a relatively prosperous and stable country with a thriving tourism sector. That was its main source of foreign exchange.
    
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    July 16, 2022 10:13am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      I didn’t say the military caused the crisis. But a military government seems quite a likely result.
      
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      July 16, 2022 10:45am
- Master Mariner
  
  And hitting head winds in the States,
  
  https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Bidens-Energy-And-Climate-Bill-Could-Be-Dead-In-The-Water.html
  
  “the Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that Congress had the power to set environmental standards for power plants, not the EPA.”
  
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  July 16, 2022 9:53am
mandk

Does anyone know how carbon offsets are audited?

You hear about businesses being net zero, but I often wonder how much fraud and greenwash is happening.
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July 16, 2022 8:18am
- kowtow
  
  Don’t know but a recentish Country Calendar about a station Mt Cook way said when they went to clear a big wilding tree problem they had to pay $2 mil in some climate bollocks up front !
  
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  July 16, 2022 9:31am
  - Nickc2
    
    I believe Wilding Conifers were classified as noxious fauna in NZ but Google brings me no results. Does anyone know?
    
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    July 16, 2022 10:16am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      You are correct, farmers have the right to clear them
      
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      July 16, 2022 12:00pm
      - Nickc2
        
        TKS.
        
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        July 16, 2022 12:33pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    $2 million? They just poison them, unless it’s a bond to charge against if they create damage. For the record, Mt Cook station is not on Mt Cook, infact it’s not even on the Glen Tanner road into Mt Cook, it’s next valley over and it happens to have a view of Mt Cook, the previous owner farmed that station till he was 99 years old, Mr Burnett, at one stage he had the record for a kilo of Merino wool of $200, and that was in the early 90s.
    End of history lesson
    
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    July 16, 2022 11:59am
  - david
    
    Exactly right kowtow. The previous owner had been merrily claiming carbon credits for the pines that were naturally spreading and displacing the farming activities on the station. Money for nothing, with jam. But apparently they were not the useless weed type (pinus contorta Ithink) so he may not have become a pariah amongst the fellow station owners of the area or Doc which presumably is responsible for the Mt Cook National Park..
    
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    July 16, 2022 12:46pm
- Maxx
  
  I saw this video the other day which highlights one of the major issues with carbon offsets and millions being spent based on “solutions” that don’t match the outcomes scene in the real world
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW3gaelBypY
  
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  July 16, 2022 9:32am
MCōs

Mighty Blackcaps show the ABs how to win in a tight spot with a number of second stringers.
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July 16, 2022 8:20am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Lol, Ireland aren’t the same force in cricket as they are in rugby. And the NZ leaked 359 runs against essentially a bunch of amateurs. It wasn’t a performance they should be particularly proud off.
  
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  July 16, 2022 8:27am
  - MCōs
    
    Some of our blokes are just as “essentially amateurs” as those chaps.
    
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    July 16, 2022 10:53am
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      You mean like Guptill, Allen, Latham, Young, Nicholls, Phillips, Santner, Henry, Ferguson and Tickner? Which, exactly, of these players do you consider to be “essentially amateur”?
      Andrew Balbirnie is 31 and has played 33 first class games, Andy McBrine, 29, 18 FC games, Gareth Delaney, 25, 5 and this list goes on, their most experienced player is Paul Stirling who is 31 and has played 70 FC games. Most of the NZ’rs have played 100 or more. NZ should be hammering them pretty much every time they play them.
      
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      July 16, 2022 11:51am
      - MCōs
        
        Allen, Bracewell & Tickner are well below international level; particularly Tickner.
        
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        July 16, 2022 2:23pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Mighty?
  
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  July 16, 2022 8:48am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Looking forward to a great day in the capital. Reading the auspices, I see that the All Blacks have lost only once on 16 July, to South Africa at Newlands in 1949. Other games on this day have included wins over the British Isles in 1966 (4 Irishmen in the side) and 1983 (6 Irishmen in the side).
  
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  July 16, 2022 9:50am
  - blue collar
    
    Interesting mike , will it be a first ? A big game with an outcome that could go either way , how good ?
    
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    July 16, 2022 11:13am
Yvette

Emergency department turns into a campground
July 14, 2022
Dr Shane Reti
The story of patients waiting hours outside in a leaking tent in the middle of winter is appalling and shows a sector in crisis, National’s Health spokesperson Dr Shane Reti says.
“Sick or injured New Zealanders deserve to wait inside an emergency department, not in a makeshift campground in the middle of winter.
“Health Minister Andrew Little’s refusal to acknowledge that the health sector is in crisis shows how out of touch he is with what is going on.
“Instead of addressing the critical issues right now, the Minster’s focus has been on rearranging the deck chairs in the health system in the middle of a pandemic.
“Unfortunately, North Shore is not the only emergency department that has people waiting outside in tents. We are hearing of more stories of this across other parts of the country.
“These stories have eerie similarities to the last time Labour crashed the health system, when patients were on trolleys in corridors and being sent to Australia.
“The Health Minister has already lost the support of the health sector. The least he can do now is to redirect some of the billion dollar health restructure funding to resolve the emergency department campgrounds.”
https://www.national.org.nz/emergency_department_turns_into_a_campground

Yvette’s question – Do headlines like “Andrew Little refuses to call buckling health system a ‘crisis’ as figures reveal big jump in reports of understaffing causing safety risks”* display Andrew Little has a personal situation of mental un-wellbeing that his spending $1.9 billion on mental heath should have helped resolve?

Or does Newshub revealing, 21 June 2021, as a result of the Government’s much-lauded record mental health investment, $1.9 billion, just five extra acute mental health beds have been added. **
Kiana with a history with post-traumatic stress disorder and bulimia nervosa, after dealing with a broken mental health system for six years, said “Here is my bed – a mattress on the f***ing floor,” – of a communal lounge because there were no mental health beds left.
Is that why Little will not now admit the whole health sector is in crisis. He is in charge, not the 20 DHBs he has just abolished.
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* https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/07/andrew-little-refuses-to-call-buckling-health-system-crisis-as-figures-reveal-big-jump-in-reports-of-understaffing-causing-safety-risks.html
** https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/06/just-five-extra-acute-mental-health-beds-after-1-9-billion-investment-in-budget- 2019.html
*** inserted by Newshub, stands for ‘uck’ of course
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July 16, 2022 8:23am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  My mother suffered a stroke a few weeks back, I sent her away in the ambulance at midnight, she was still in A&E at two o’clock the next afternoon
  
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  July 16, 2022 12:02pm
  - Yvette
    
    G the giant from Dunedin, I am sorry to know of your Mother’s ordeal.
    I do hope that no part of my comment appears frivolous in any respect.
    
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    July 16, 2022 1:34pm
piglady

I have recently been introduced to PragerU
(Sorry I don’t know how to put up the link but I intend to learn!)
Short for Prager University, it is an American nonprofit advocacy group that creates short videos on various political, economic and sociological topics that promote conservative views.
I am learning a lot and highly recommend you have a look.
I will be promoting it to my son as a new source of educating himself in this ever growing woke world.
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July 16, 2022 8:24am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Not an actual university, of course.
  
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  July 16, 2022 9:16am
  - Rodney Hide
    
    Even better.
    
    Rodney Hide
    
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    July 16, 2022 9:20am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      You beat me to it Rodney. We’re actively looking for alternatives to mainstream university. What I’m reading around the world about the woke activities at most of them is truly dystopian. It reads like a chapter from “The Handmaid’s Tale”.
      
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      July 16, 2022 9:28am
      - NK
        
        No chance of the Cultural Marxists taking over.
        
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        July 16, 2022 10:41am
      - Don Beckett
        
        I’ve been getting Prager U e-mails for some years now. All good stuff.
        
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        July 16, 2022 11:32am
      - Jack5
        
        Talking of universities, today’s crap in Stuff by Otago University literature lecturer Jacob Edmond is about as Woke as you can get.
        
        Those with iron endurance might delve into an online lecturer by Edmond at the link below.
        
        Delve, because the first two minutes of introduction are in Maori, and Edmond begins in earnest, after further minutes in Maori, around 12.03.
        
        The lecture title is “Poetry and breath: Resuscitating literature, reimagining the world”.
        
        I dozed off early after Edmond linked “breath” to Black Americans being suffocated by cops, and brought in Global Warming.
        
        Edmond, as well as lecturing, supervises Ph.D. and M.A. work for many students!
        
        Here Edmond is, at a university special lecture – no wonder Stuff recruited him.
        
        https://youtu.be/bem03j1ndqc
        
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        July 16, 2022 1:20pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      That blew his headlights out Rodney.
      He has gone for a cup of tea, and a lie down
      
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      July 16, 2022 3:54pm
  - Matt Long
    
    No kidding? Surely Tony Robbins’ Mastery University, Trump University and Prager U are all the equivalent of of MIT.
    Thanks for allowing us the partake of the depths of you knowledge and wisdom Mike, one of your better efforts today.
    
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    July 16, 2022 9:29am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Off goes milkey with the tried and trusted ad hominem. No attempt to actually say what the problem is and why. I must admit, I like the consistency. It’s good to always know what you’re going to get!
    
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    July 16, 2022 9:30am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      He is a typical leftie, this failing government can do no wrong
      
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      July 16, 2022 12:04pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Dennis Prager opens lots of eyes.
  Watch him when teamed up with Candace Owens.
  
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  July 16, 2022 10:31am
- Yvette
  
  Piglady – Sorry I don’t know how to put up the link but I intend to learn!
  This may assist –
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROGSCyAAoFA
  Once you have copied the website address just paste it where you wish
  
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  July 16, 2022 11:42am
  - piglady
    
    Thank you Yvette😀
    
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    July 16, 2022 12:03pm
MCōs

Oil is thicker than human rights.

I may have mentioned this quote the other day, but it’s worth remembering every time an American President goes on one of those arse licking, cheek kissing, hands on crystal ball, give em what they want trip to Saudi Arabia.
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July 16, 2022 8:35am
- Matt Long
  
  I wonder if the Saudis will be asking Biden if he’ll be apologising to the families of Qasem Soleimani, OBL and everyone else they’ve assassinated lately?
  
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  July 16, 2022 8:47am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Fat finger, accidental downtick. Apologies.
    
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    July 16, 2022 8:57am
- kowtow
  
  So’s milk.
  
  And any other essential commodity.
  
  Why single out the “American” Presidents .
  
  We’re in there too beholden to the CCP, the Krauts and Frogs to the Tsar for their oil and gas , the Indians for all the munitions they get from him etc
  
  And for good measure you can chuck in the Brits who according to the woke invented human rights abuses so the yeomen could feast on roast beef and Yorkshire pudding.
  
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  July 16, 2022 9:17am
  - MCōs
    
    “Why single out the “American” Presidents”
    
    Because the current one is over there now selling the soul of free world they claim to represent to one of the most abhorrent regimes in the unfree world for oil we’ve all become addicted to.
    
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    July 16, 2022 10:46am
    - kowtow
      
      If he weren’t a woke lefty hypocrite who has , like our own regime , smashed domestic oil , then he wouldn’t need to be there talking to the people who he called only a cuppla years ago “pariah”.
      
      And he doesn’t represent the “free world” , very few western “leaders” know or represent anything remotely “free”.
      
      They are control freak hypocrites .
      
      At least with the Saudis you get what’s on the tin.
      
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      July 16, 2022 11:06am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Jaspinda buys dirty coal from Indonesia!
        Joe told her to do it – for CONTROL//
        
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        July 16, 2022 4:00pm
      - MCōs
        
        The government doesn’t use the imported coal.
        It is imported for steel and cement production and to power the Huntly Power Station. All privately owned.
        
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        July 16, 2022 6:05pm
3-coil

Great news that Suzee Fergusson has been dumped from RNZ. Morning Report has been unlistenable when she interviews, and she (like JoeBiden) can no longer even tell the time…on a NZ morning radio show! So she is definitely past her use-by date.

What trough will she pop up in next?
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July 16, 2022 8:36am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Yes, I noticed that she has trouble with reading an analogue clock after half past the hour.
  
  Pathetic, really. She’s too old to be a Millennial.
  
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  July 16, 2022 9:15am
- Benedict Yu
  
  It won’t get any better.
  
  I tuned in last week. First time in months. I lasted 5 minutes.
  
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  July 16, 2022 10:18am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Labours back bench
  
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  July 16, 2022 12:05pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

From my email. Mass shootings.
Have you ever stopped to observe the obvious, but not so obvious similarities between the shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas; Marjory Stoneman Douglas in Florida, Sandy Hook.
There seems to be a common factor – something that Candace Owens bangs on about. Fatherless homes and mental health.
https://redrightvideos.com/mass-shootings-linked-to-this-one-causal-factor-how-we-can-help/
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July 16, 2022 8:37am
- Ohm my
  
  Not a comment re the cause of these incidents, but a video on the first responders actions at Uvalde, based on the report/video just released.
  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u_f6lvwVyfE
  Training and their police culture are much commented on.
  
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  July 16, 2022 9:19am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yes for sure. Take the fucking badge off and get a job in dog walking – or something.
    It was not just the cops, it was a senior stalling to give the word go. Who did it in the end? Border Patrol.
    
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    July 16, 2022 10:36am
    - Ohm my
      
      I’ve read the lead Border Patrol guy was at his barber’s when he heard of the active shooting. He used his barber’s gun, contacted his colleagues and in they go. Heros.
      
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      July 16, 2022 11:07am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Nope, he had his gun taken off him, and was escorted to a safe area.
        The guy that was getting a haircut heard then borrowed the barber’s gun.
        Ohm – are you trolling? Are you another Mike/Ross/mikenmike
        Never mind
        
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        July 16, 2022 4:07pm
    - kowtow
      
      The mass hysteria and legal ramifications resulting from the reaction to the Fentanyl Floyd case had a very chilling effect on police culture in the USA .
      
      Who’d be a cop there ?
      
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      July 16, 2022 11:16am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Joe shakes hands with the air – again. Democrats are going to vote for him – really?
https://dailypoliticalnewswire.com/watch-dementia-joe-shakes-hands-with-the-air-again/
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July 16, 2022 8:47am
rouppe

I see Labour is mailing its members to put a supportive submission in on 3 waters.

Two can play that game.

I know there was a template form for opposing it, but can’t find it now.

Where is it please?
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July 16, 2022 9:25am
- Ehlana
  
  https://www.stopthreewaters.nz/submission
  
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  July 16, 2022 10:06am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Signed and sent
  
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  July 16, 2022 12:06pm
Suze Wainwright

In the same vein as the media happily running research stories about how alcohol use is overwhelmingly involved in aotearoa’s suicide statistics, has there been any research into how aotearoa’s daily shooting statistics might be overwhelmingly related to primitive tribal mentalities and the concept of revenge…?
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July 16, 2022 9:28am
- ClanMcleod
  
  The problem isn’t alcohol, it’s depression and we know for a fact that it has been massively increasing since the inane covid policies were introduced, fully supported by The Greens. The utterly useless Chloe Swarbrick wrote that article.
  It’s the cause of depression that causes people to abuse alcohol and drugs that needs addressed first.
  
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  July 16, 2022 10:00am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I heard the author of the report on the radio yesterday. Calling for alcohol price increases and fewer liquor outlets and restricted trading hours. To combat suicide. 🤡
  
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  July 16, 2022 10:22am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    BY – she’s onto it. Because restricting access to stuff never leads to a black market with products with zero quality control………//
    
    Ideologues. Destroying society since forever.
    
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    July 16, 2022 10:31am
  - alloytoo
    
    So I suppose the question I have is what percentage of alcohol users commit suicide?
    
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    July 16, 2022 6:45pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Becoming the same as the US. They don’t have a gun problem, they have a mental health problem disguised as a gun problem.
  Stoked up on prescription medication and illegal drugs.
  
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  July 16, 2022 10:41am
  - kowtow
    
    The Media give the Loons all the attention they crave and would otherwise not get.
    
    The Media are a huge part of the problem , and have been since the start of this dreadful problem.
    
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    July 16, 2022 11:18am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      You mean our favorite Red Radio and playschool TV1? News on One?
      Well I never….
      
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      July 16, 2022 4:11pm
- marleybob
  
  Down ticked for the over use of that made up word for nz, The rest of your post I agree.
  
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  July 16, 2022 3:59pm
Yvette

‘Morally bankrupt’: Jacinda Ardern says UN has failed in response to Russia-Ukraine war
Ardern made the stark assessment of the UN’s “morally bankrupt position” in a speech on foreign policy at the Lowy Institute in Sydney today as part of her latest visit to Australia.
Throughout her speech, Ardern emphasised New Zealand’s faith in using multilateral institutions to maintain the global “rules-based order”.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/morally-bankrupt-jacinda-ardern-says-un-has-failed-in-response-to-russia-ukraine-war/FVRCYR5ZNUKKTUADXUCITFBUNI/

All the burning bridges that have fallen after me
All the lonely feelings and the burning memories
Everyone i left behind each time i closed the door
Burning bridges lost forevermore ?
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July 16, 2022 9:28am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Reading the web address it looks like they are saying Jacinda is morally bankrupt.
  
  We have known that for years.
  
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  July 16, 2022 9:54am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  UN failed? But she knows how to fix it when she gets there. Hurry up ffs.
  
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  July 16, 2022 10:42am
  - mawm
    
    Hardly a job-winning comment to put on your application form. Maybe Blackrock has made a better offer.
    
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    July 16, 2022 1:05pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Blackrock – maybe there was a kindy party there – and a small envelope passed on????
      Not money, just a NZ warrantee type thing?
      You know, just like Trump gave to Merkel? The Invoice.
      
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      July 16, 2022 4:16pm
Rusty

Either the All Blacks win by a large margin tonight or Ireland does.

The verdict is still out if this is a good AB team with a good coach.
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July 16, 2022 9:29am
- NK
  
  Verdict is not out. It has returned.
  
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  July 16, 2022 10:45am
  - blue collar
    
    Totally .
    The verdict is an average team with a pathetic coach
    
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    July 16, 2022 11:18am
    - Bridgenag
      
      But …hey they have the best hairdos and tats
      
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      July 16, 2022 1:34pm
- Cinematic
  
  By any objective measure this AB coaching group is not the best available. So they shouldn’t occupy the positions they do.
  
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  July 16, 2022 11:26am
Peter Lane

I see Baker the media whore has been given another platform to spout his stuff in the Herald this morning.

The Masked Crusader opines:

‘So it might be that we decide we’re just not going to tolerate that infected, un-masked person giving us Covid-19.’

No one has asked this clown the obvious question.

‘If masks are so effective how can an unmasked person give you Covid?’
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July 16, 2022 9:36am
- Peter Lane
  
  Haha a downtick straight away.
  
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  July 16, 2022 9:38am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Peter – milkey is awake and his finger is poised……
    
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    July 16, 2022 9:41am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      He moved that quick, changed hand
      
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      July 16, 2022 4:18pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I have never seen Baker with a mask on.
  The man is an attention seeking hypocrite.
  
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  July 16, 2022 10:45am
- Hebe123
  
  Why does wearing a mask make you infected?
  
  I haven’t worn a mask this year and now I’ve had covid there is even less reason to. As an unvaccinated person I’m exceedingly u likely to catch it again.
  
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  July 16, 2022 10:58am
- blue collar
  
  Do the bakers of this world hv friends ? Why aren’t they telling this delusional lunatic to undo his top button n pull his fat head in ?
  
  Oh that’s right , birds of a feather …
  
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  July 16, 2022 11:20am
ClanMcleod

It’s becoming obvious to anyone paying attention that we are constantly being subjected to substantial and concerted propaganda programmes and psychological behavioural manipulation.

It has been rife throughout the covid circus. This isn’t a point of debate, there is plenty of evidence from government sources where they clearly talk about using fear to drive policies.

It is also used constantly in the “climate crisis” fear porn we are subjected to daily. This tweet from James Melville showing the comparisons between weather maps from a decade or more ago to the present way weather is presented.
This is psychological manipulation. It isn’t based on reality. It is designed to terrify people to make them compliant while the WEF and others continue to implement the “great reset”.

https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1547536170992779266

It’s not a conspiracy. It’s clearly happening. The post re the BFD article on Sri Lanka just another example.

“You will own nothing and be happy.”
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July 16, 2022 9:40am
- NK
  
  Completely, totally. It’s not a conspiracy because the WEF, Vanguard, Black Rock, the Carlyle Group and Ors are not conspiring. It’s not overt. It’s public.
  
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  July 16, 2022 10:51am
- Ross Campbell
  
  “Its becoming obvious to anyone paying attention that we are constantly being subjected to substantial and concerted propaganda campaigns”.
  Yes and the evidence can be found in your daily posts.
  
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  July 16, 2022 11:16am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Yes Mike, I always give evidence based links in my posts. Thanks for pointing that out. 🤡
    
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    July 16, 2022 12:36pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yes Mike, just jabbing others in the ribs, but you have no real comment sonny
    
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    July 16, 2022 4:22pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Weather porn. Causes climate change, I hear.
  
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  July 16, 2022 4:36pm
Maggie Pie

Good morrrning – dawned beautiful here in God’s-Garden.

A priest, a rabbit and a minister walk into a Blood Bank.
The rabbit says, “I think I might be a type O…”
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July 16, 2022 9:41am
- Cassandra
  
  V good Maggie.
  
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  July 16, 2022 10:07am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  זייער גוט
  
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  July 16, 2022 10:07am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Fab to see you back Maggsie! 😀
    
    Hebrew for what?
    
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    July 16, 2022 10:15am
    - Yvette
      
      Means “Very good” – right!
      
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      July 16, 2022 10:21am
  - chuk
    
    Very good Maggie and very good Maggy.
    
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    July 16, 2022 10:45am
  - kevn
    
    @Maggy… Very well? That’s good.
    
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    July 16, 2022 11:05am
ClanMcleod

The government supported by their shills in the mainstream media continue to pretend that adverse effects after the jab are insignificant. This is a lie. We are a bit behind other countries but there is no doubt the same problems have happened here and are continuing to happen. Keep an eye on all cause mortality statistics. They are becoming alarming and they aren’t covid deaths.
This is an excellent video produced by UK Column. It is the best source of world news that I have found in the last couple of years since I abandoned mainstream media. Here they interview the maker of the documentary which I have given links to below.

https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/ukc-interview-vaccine-adverse-reactions-a-letter-to-my-mp

The actual documentary is harrowing but needs to be watched.

UK CV Family – A Letter To My MP

https://odysee.com/@JamesFreeman:b/UK-CV-Family-720p:9

https://rumble.com/v16ygg7-uk-cv-family-a-letter-to-my-mp.html

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/uk-cv-family-a-letter-to-my-mp-exclusive-premiere-on-bnt_HhxneadubQ9x2J8.html
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July 16, 2022 9:47am
- Ross Campbell
  
  [Deleted – quit the abuse. mod.]
  
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  July 16, 2022 11:21am
- Hebe123
  
  And 6 MPs bothered showing up. What a disgrace our politicians have shown themselves to be.
  
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  July 16, 2022 12:01pm
- mawm
  
  Harrowing indeed. So many injured, so many dying, and yet there is this pretence that it’s not the vaccines. A kind and caring government would be rallying around those affected, offering help and setting up meaningful commissions to address it. Sadly the medical community has become complicit and have forgotten why they have chosen this profession. Trust in them has been destroyed, so too in the government and the media.
  
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  July 16, 2022 1:56pm
  - mawm
    
    Along the lines of a kind and caring government this link is a written interview with a NZ sociologist exploring covid and the governmental response. It really is worth reading just to remind one how much the government has taken from us and the extent of some of the laws passed. https://www.thelookingglass.co.nz/the-wellbeing-government-is-the-most-extraordinarily-brutal-government-new-zealand-has-had-for-decades-an-interview-with-sociologist-jodie-bruning/
    
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    July 16, 2022 3:22pm
Master Mariner

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Why-Is-The-US-Sending-Its-Emergency-Oil-Reserves-To-China.html
“And while the midterms will come and go, and Democrats will suffer a historic loss, the U.S. energy picture is getting more dire by the minute thanks to the sheer incompetence and/or corruption of the executive branch: crude inventories are the lowest since 2004 as refineries run near peak levels. Refineries in the U.S. Gulf coast were at 97.9% utilization, the most in three and a half years. This means even the smallest accident can and will sell oil prices to the moon”

Well the real issue is Typhoon season which is gearing up to be a ripper with Higher water temperatures and hence more powerful Cyclones. The refineries are in a direct firing line and at risk of closure in the coming months.
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July 16, 2022 9:57am
- kowtow
  
  I read that they haven’t built a new one there in 50 years .
  
  In the current hysterical climate why would anyone invest in oil.
  
  Scary times.
  
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  July 16, 2022 11:22am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Maybe there is an investment opportunity in that? Everyone believes oil is going to go away soon, but only half is used for (likely replaceable by EV) road transport. I wouldn’t be surprised if the world was still using nearly as much oil in 10-20 years, yes EVs will be dominant in West, but there are a lot of poor people in the 3rd world who are getting richer that will get cars in countries without the grid infrastructure to support EVs. Or it could be that the world slowly realises that plug in hybrids are the most economic solution.
    
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    July 16, 2022 12:18pm
- Nickc2
  
  …..and in the meantime, we have oil (albeit still in the ground) but no refineries. Dumb and dumber eh?
  
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  July 16, 2022 12:15pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

And I see according to a story in $tuff,
we can now expect a lot more stabs from Stingrays….
thanks to ‘Climate-Change’.

LOL!!
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July 16, 2022 9:58am
ClanMcleod

Paywalled in the Whoreald , didn’t read it but I loved the headline.

Claire Trevett: Health crisis or not? Andrew Little has the worst job in politics now.

All I could think was, if the cap fits……..
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July 16, 2022 10:41am
ClanMcleod

Looks like they’ve come up with the name for the latest covid variant.

https://tinyurl.com/3zp3p6jx
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July 16, 2022 11:07am
blue collar

Beaut day in the naki .
A bit of good weather does wonders for ya mental health , everyone in town is upbeat , out n about .
Got the beers n champagne in , screw dry July , bring on the footy !
Hang on , Brenda is offshore , so it’s the weather and her absence and an abs cliffhanger …. So good
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July 16, 2022 11:27am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Better stock up on the beer. NZ is running out of CO2.
  
  Watch the ordinary New Zealander erupt if the beer runs out.
  
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  July 16, 2022 4:39pm
Blog-aholic

I see Stats NZ (current name) is looking for a campaign manager and highly paid too….. but you’ll need plenty of time when introducing yourself….
https://www.seek.co.nz/job/57748055?type=standout#sol=9a157f03d441043a36c3794c70e3c4cab00e4d88

Job title is: Pouwhakahaere Whakawhitiwhiti me te Māketetanga….

….then again the census might get shitcanned anyway….
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July 16, 2022 11:34am
- Nickc2
  
  WRT the census, is that because they can’t make the figures fit the Govt’s narrative?
  
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  July 16, 2022 12:18pm
- Surely Knott
  
  “We welcome every gender, ethnicity, ability, religion, age and background and encourage people to be their authentic selves.” Does that include the authenticly unvaxxed.
  
  “This role is fixed term for 7 months ” So does that mean the $140-$160k salary guide is for just 7 months.
  
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  July 16, 2022 3:00pm
blue collar

Has anyone seen or heard from the labour MP in New Plymouth ?
Bennett
None of us hv …. For months ….. is there a hui in oz , or a super deep trough they’re all floundering around in somewhere ….
I dunno , any other regions heard of or seen their labour mp ?
Maybe all the backbenchers are in a mental health unit somewhere suffering full blown depression , watching the senior clowns 🤡 destroy the party . Must be rather despairing.
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July 16, 2022 11:37am
blue collar

So the Nz men netball team are better than the Sheila’s …. 😅
Do they hv pay equity or is there a gender pay gap to address ?
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July 16, 2022 11:45am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  I mean who would have thought huh?
  
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  July 16, 2022 11:55am
- mandk
  
  The problem is the Silver Ferns lack diversity.
  
  Not one of the team is trans.
  
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  July 16, 2022 12:23pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  In most sports city rep level 14-15 year old boys can beat world class women. Elite adult men are 30% stronger and 10% faster than elite adult women.
  
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  July 16, 2022 2:01pm
mandk

Stuff is having to work hard to justify its share of the $55 million:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300634386/six-reasons-to-be-optimistic-about-the-economy

It’s pretty desperate.

Evidently, one reason is that for some parts of the economy, the only way is up.
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July 16, 2022 12:21pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  $450 per week?
  Where does that money come from? Have a house cow, so that means not buying so much milk to feed 14.
  Saw my bloody dick off.
  
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  July 16, 2022 4:32pm
Nickc2

We in the South Pacific can sleep well, knowing America has vowed to come to our assistance should Chinese influence spread. YEA, RIGHT
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2022/07/america-you-must-be-very-proud.html
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July 16, 2022 1:17pm
Chris Nisbet

Just wondering.. does the massive pile-on against Leo Malloy by MSM mean that he’s the one most likely to beat the socialist, climate alarmist, Collins?
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July 16, 2022 1:31pm
- MCōs
  
  It’s Molloy, Leo Molloy.
  
  Having watched the interview in question with Guy Williams I would suggest Molloy did his own pile on.
  Some people like his style.
  Nobody I know.
  
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  July 16, 2022 6:20pm
Tony Stuart

An outstanding piece from Aaron Smales at Newsroom about Matthew Tukaki; it ends thus:

That’s a fairly significant list of issues. Despite this, Tukaki has just been appointed to a government role in suicide prevention after stepping down from the role at Oranga Tamariki.

It also seems someone within the Beehive may have been tipping off Tukaki about the media’s inquiries. It is starting to look like Tukaki is being assisted by government ministers and bureaucrats because any serious scrutiny could expose a lack of due diligence on their part. The questions over Tukaki as an individual also hang over the government that has appointed him, which in most cases would make such a person a political liability.

Many in the wider media have been conspicuously silent on these issues. To give the revelations air time could be a tacit admission that previous reporting and promotion of Tukaki could have been naive and less than thorough.

His time at Oranga Tamariki, on the Māori Council and appointment to the suicide body should surely be subjected to a whole lot more scrutiny by both the media and those in Wellington.

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/the-political-liability-of-matt-tukaki

The list of issues Smales refers to, six in all, is I suspect not exhaustive, but the media has shut things down. I’m sure the fact that Tukaki’s brother is Chief of Staff to Broadcasting Minister Willie Jackson is but a mere coincidence. Kudos to Aaron Smales for asking the questions that other, more senior journalists should be asking.
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July 16, 2022 1:40pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Tony will, I’m sure, join me in applauding the Public interest Journalism fund for its substantial support of Newsroom, not to mention the vital role played by two of our excellent universities in founding the website.
  
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  July 16, 2022 4:29pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Why would this story require public interest funding, Mikey? Surely, it’s a story that stands up in its own right.
    
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    July 16, 2022 4:42pm
  - Jack5
    
    Milky! Apply for a State “public interest” journalism subsidy. You’d have a bloody good chance of getting it. 🙃
    
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    July 16, 2022 8:40pm
- nathie
  
  “Kudos to Aaron Smales for asking the questions that other, more senior journalists should be asking”
  
  Has Barry Soper officially retired? Asking as (most of) the rest of his Parliamentary Press Gallery colleagues just don’t seem interested in a conflict of interest that’s standing right there in front of them, and they seem quite happy to be sidestepping that elephant in the room, that’s for sure. What a disgrace!
  
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  July 16, 2022 5:08pm
Maggie Pie

THE-SINS-OF-THE-FATHER?

Elon Musk’s dad admits to fathering second child…..
with his Stepdaughter!

https://youtu.be/UO7RfZ2_8M
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July 16, 2022 1:49pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Some spectacularly successful genes in that lineage. When aspie genes pay off they pay off big.
  
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  July 16, 2022 3:37pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Is this happening in NZ? The shit that is available in school libraries can not be read out to the school board because the meeting is televised! Fucking creeps.
https://rumble.com/v1caexh-school-board-panics-when-dad-exposes-what-theyre-teaching.html?
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July 16, 2022 2:12pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  What’s happening in NZ schools should probably concern you more, Steve.
  Like the Marist order still revering their sex criminals:
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/129227417/in-plain-sight–the-paedophile-headteacher-who-escaped-justice-for-50-years
  
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  July 16, 2022 2:31pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Did you go to school Mike or just online?
    You have this thing about “Catholics” as if the issue never happened in other Faiths.
    I am the first to ask “What is wrong with you?”
    
    Mods – go back through Mike’s history before you hammer me, OK?
    
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    July 16, 2022 4:45pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Has there been another political message sent to cellphones? Getting into the Pharmacy today there were people waiting for their saline shot or booster. All seats taken (about 15) and another six waiting outside.
What the hell is the matter with these people, have they not learned anything?
Second look at them, and yep, it is free so let’s do this. Leftie sycophants.
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July 16, 2022 2:50pm
- Ross Campbell
  
  If you don’t want to take the booster then that’s your choice but why does the sight of other people making a different choice infuriate you so much?.
  I thought that’s what freedom to choose or bodily autonomy or whatever the latest catch phrase was meant to be all about.
  
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  July 16, 2022 3:20pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yes Mike
    
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    July 17, 2022 9:06am
Surely Knott

Reading the Herald is like listening to talkback radio but they only take calls from 5 people who all live in the same neighbourhood and do the same job, and you keep getting those same narrow opinions over and over and over again.
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July 16, 2022 2:57pm
kevn

@SteveO… Covid is attracted to the mucus areas so your eyes are a prime target as well.
Now that’s inconvenient isn’t it? Your eyes. Even baker talked of it (quite some time ago though).
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July 16, 2022 3:25pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Baker is not baker – yeah ok missed the cap.
  Eyes will be the next step – so we will all wear EYE FUCKING MASKS.
  Baaaaaabaaaaabaaaaa!!!!!
  
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  July 16, 2022 4:49pm
kevn

@SteveO… baker is baker. No cap. Just baker.
Like ardern is ardern. No cap there either.
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July 16, 2022 6:37pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Yep. She is not important enough.
  Hear that jaspinda?
  
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  July 16, 2022 6:52pm
greybeard

All Black team looks more like a Pacific Island team.
I think they need to lighten up a bit.
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July 16, 2022 6:40pm
RichardX

More “RINOs” for Steve

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/prominent-conservatives-election-lost-not-stolen

Because any Republican who doesn’t support Trump is a RINO in Steve’s world.
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July 16, 2022 6:49pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  What is the matter with you? They are known RINOs. Those who voted to impeach Trump twice, are in the crosshairs.
  You can compare it with National now being named “Labour Lite”
  Back to CNN for you, your TDS is on overload!!
  
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  July 17, 2022 9:04am
Pheobe

Has anyone heard anything about Rotorua Council taking MSD to court, as motels are not considered suitable as permanent housing. The Council are wanting to get rid of the use of motels as emergency housing for obvious reasons. If they win this I can see other councils doing the same. What will they do with all these people then.
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July 16, 2022 7:24pm
Nookin

I hope it’s not just me. Is anyone else watching channel 51 acutely embarrassed?
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July 16, 2022 7:57pm
- Nickc2
  
  Captain and Coach have gotta go!!!!
  
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  July 16, 2022 9:08pm
Tauhei Notts

Heard on the radio commentary;
“The crumbling of an All Black Empire.”
Prescient.
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July 16, 2022 9:04pm
- AitchW
  
  Perhaps the Irish were simply better.
  
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  July 16, 2022 9:58pm
JimBobJoe

Great victory Ireland – deserved and earned. Out All Blacked the All Blacks

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Well first steps for the All Blacks to recapture their standing as a world leading rugby team:

1/ Sack the Coaching staff. Appoint Robertson and reset team selection
2/ Tell all players selected that Test match rugby is about winning – via running footie is all very well, but its ok to take penalties in front of the sticks when 10 down and 8 to 10 minutes on the clock.
3/ Tell all players – patience is a virtue. If the ruck resulting from the last play is under pressure, put more players in and reset the tempo. Speed of play is great but ball under pressure leads to problems
4/ Defense; Get a shape that doesn’t over emphasis and outside back kamikaze-ing in from the outside to in. It creates big holes that smart inside backs will dissect with ease with a smart run or nice short pass…
5/ Pick some ball carriers who can get over the gain line – the Irish defense for large parts of the game smoothed our attack by making solid, effective tackles (off a marginally offside starting line but hey the All Blacks have done that for decades and play the referee for as much as you can get I say!)

I have been a Sam Cane defender but he is not leading well. The team is too individualistic and goes away from imposing a structure on the opposition via possession, position and patience. Thats the Captains on field responsibility to ensure structure and stop the headless chook play

Key Question: Will Ian Foster resign or will he try and hang on?

Fozzie seems an ok bloke but some people are not head coach material and some people are. Fozzie looks pressured and unsure – its a big sign after a few years in the job that the job is too big for him. Hand over the keys to the team Ian and let someone else try to turn the ship around…

I think that apart from the coaching that we are seeing a generation of players that have not endured enough struggle on the journey through the rugby pyramid. Flat track bullies is a term I would use – and when they get a smack in the mouth they lose focus and discipline. I feel sorry for Sam and Brodie having to try and hold it together when too many around them are losing their collective heads
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July 16, 2022 10:14pm
SPC

I read this on the Irish Rugby TV Highlights You Tube comments after the first test.

Kimbo
13 days ago
You can clearly see NZ is the stronger and faster team. Ireland competitive but not close contest.

Such is the sporting knowledge of too many AB supporters.
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July 16, 2022 10:14pm
wilderbeast

Anyone see the propaganda on TV1 re Mahuta and her nepotism? First time they’ve reported it, and gee wasn’t it favourable to her. Apparently her opponents are “nameless”, “faceless”, “toxic”, “trolls”, “harmful”. Let me deal with those words one by one:

1. Nameless – lots of declared and anonymous critics
2. Faceless – as above
3. Toxic – no grounds set out, just bald use of the word
4. Trolls – as above
5. Harmful – 100% correct, her critics are indeed harmful to her agenda

As for the tears etc grow up and toughen up Nanaia. You want to wield unbridled power, it might have occurred to you that people might not like it. Seems to me that Labour could go around murdering newborns and still find cause to play the victim card. How pathetic
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