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mikenmildagain

Happy Saint Dwynwen’s Day. She’s the patron saint of Welsh lovers. No sheep jokes please.
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January 25, 2023 8:00am
- Lee C
  
  Thanks Milky Rwy’n dy garu di, Bud.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:16am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Today is also the Feast day of the Conversion of St. Paul, the apostle to the gentiles and pagan nations.
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:10am
    - Fisiani2
      
      Today 25th January is Rabbie Burns Day with a haggis, neeps and tatties and whisky galore.
      O wit a sicht.
      
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      January 25, 2023 11:51am
- All_on_Red
  
  I was talking to my Welsh friend the other day and I asked him “how many sexual partners have you had?”
  He started counting on his fingers, but then he fell asleep…
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:22am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Do you not use pronouns, mike?
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:33am
  - kowtow
    
    People , why do you encourage him?
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:21am
- lastmanstanding
  
  Its 30 years since the latest “Full and Final Settlements” commenced led by Jim Bolger and the Duke of Montrose AKA Doug Graham. In that time Billions has been gifted to Tribal Leaders and Billion more taxes spent (wasted) on The Maori Problem. Yet The Maori Problem is worse than it was 30 years ago.
  Some would say Politicians dont want an end to The Maori Problem. When they are in Opposition that can hurl insults at the Government and when they are in Government they can boast of spending (wasting) Billions on “Fixing” The Maori Problem.
  Or is that they really dont know how to fix the problem or they do know but they also know the fixes would frighten the horses. I say there are fixes but I wont elaborate to avoid sending the morons into a fit. I say the problem could be largely fixed over two generations.
  Maori babies and children are suffering cruel and unjust treatment as a result of Politicians and Civil Servants lack of appropriate actions and I say that is unacceptable.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:31am
  - rouppe
    
    Not to mention the untaxed millions made from commercial operations formed from those billions.
    
    Are they paying their fair share?
    
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    January 25, 2023 10:23am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Phrasing something as ‘The Māori Problem’ might have some rather unfortunate connotations around possible ‘solutions’.
    
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    January 25, 2023 11:23am
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Yes conflating things in order to work oneself into a deranged lather is a far left thing.
      
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      January 25, 2023 10:13pm
  - mawm
    
    LMS – I’d say that Maori don’t want to fix the Maori problem. It is a cash cow like none other.
    
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    January 25, 2023 11:39am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Titewhai Harawera is being mourned by NZ media as a secular saint.

You would have thought that her criminal conviction and jail term for beating and inciting her family to beat mental health patients would preclude this.
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January 25, 2023 8:01am
- emmess
  
  Nothing at all
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:19am
krazykiwi

Mrs kk and I recently wanted to watch an old-school TV drama (“Body and Soul”) and despite my very best BitTorrent skills I could only find it on Amazon Prime (free) in the US. So I fired up a VPN and we settled in. We watch zero, and I do mean zero, broadcast TV here, so having ads appear was a bit novel. The type of ads intrigued me. At least half of them were for prescription medications – angina, hypertension, HIV detection suppression (true – ‘Dovato’) and more. If I was surprised by the focus on medicines, I was staggered by the proportion of each medicine ad’s time committed to explaining potential side effects. These explanations were typically more than half of each ad, and when I first heard the doom-laden audio it sounded like a piss-take. “Side effects can include drowsiness or loss of consciousness”. “You may develop a fever, or rash”. “Not to be taken if you are currently taking [drug-a], [drug-b] etc” “Severe side effects can include death”. And so on, and so on ad nauseam…. cut to the next ad.

New Zealand had a late ‘vaccine’ roll out. By the time the liability-exempt, experimental Pfizer juice was being enthusiastically plunged into the shoulders of New Zealanders there had been literally millions of adverse reactions reported to VAERS – the US vaccine safety system. My question is this: What proportion of the ‘vaccine’ recipient’s consultation time was committed to outlining potential adverse reactions before each needle was plunged? Like the US TV ads, was it 50%? Or less at 25%? Or closer to 0%? If there was any explanation, did it include meaningful presentation of the known risks?

As we see ‘vaccine’ campaign-adjacent excess deaths continue to accumulate, and birth rates stay suppressed it becomes more difficult to dismiss the suggestion that we are living through the greatest medical misadventure in history. At the same time our soon-to-be-PM speaks of chasing down the unvaccinated, the CDC and FDA continue their lying, their fealty to Big Pharma, and their playing ‘hide the ball’ with critical data. Pfizer, Moderna et al continue to make billions while killing with apparent impunity.

Who is awake now?

Who will apologise for demonizing those of us who started waving the flag high and early?

Who will be held to account for the deceit that continues to kill?
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January 25, 2023 8:01am
- Muttonbird
  
  My lad is a good boy. His friends occasionally use VPNs to get around geo-blocking etc, but he refuses, saying it is stealing.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:06am
  - pdm
    
    I cannot do any of that – I have no bloody idea what a VPN is.
    
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    January 25, 2023 8:40am
    - cmm
      
      A VPN is a Virtual Private Network. This is a way of building an end-to-end secure network link through a normal network that is effectively a private network.
      
      There are two main uses:
      1) Security: Providing a way to join up, say, multiple remote offices so that they seem to have a single private network. Everyone on the VPN is essentially on the “inside” of the network, even if they are sitting at home in their dressing gown. You can share network resources across the world as if you are in the same building without exposing them to the whole world.
      
      2) Spoofing location: By setting up a VPN to a server in, say, USA your accesses to the internet then appear to come from that server making it appear that you are sitting in the USA (or wherever). That can be used for various nefarious/dodgy purposes and bypassing various regional filtering (censorship etc). A very common usage is to allow access to region locked content (eg. watching Game Of Thrones when it is released in USA and not waiting another 3 months for when it is released in NZ).
      
      Some of those usages are a outright criminal, some are a bit sketchy, many of them are illegal.
      
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      January 25, 2023 9:27am
      - glowworm
        
        VPNs should not really be required for most people, most of the time (in a free, open society).
        
        However, here in NZ, and especially under the Ardern regime, a VPN has become essential IMO.
        
        Ads in another language/country can also be fun to watch!
        
        I also would advocate trying to de-google as much as possible. I’m just venturing down this path with (ironically) a Google Pixel phone running a de-googled operating system called GrapheneOS. Google Apps are able to run on this phone, but in a sandbox, which means you get to decide what the apps can see and do.
        
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        January 25, 2023 10:10am
      - Cassandra
        
        English version of glowworm available?
        
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        January 25, 2023 11:05am
    - rangitoto
      
      This is my favourite VPN tech:
      
      https://www.wireguard.com/
      
      Use it to create a multi-office mesh.
      
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      January 25, 2023 9:49am
  - All_on_Red
    
    That’s nice Muttonbird
    Hopefully he will realise that Taxation is also theft and his Dad was wrong about everything
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:13am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      How is taxation ‘theft’?
      
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      January 25, 2023 11:25am
      - All_on_Red
        
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        December 25, 2022 11:56am
      - Liberty
        
        Tax is theft because the property owner is not given a choice.
        When the state pillages their wealth.
        No different from Robin Hood and his pack of thieves or if you are woke
        Robin hood and his merry men.
        
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        January 25, 2023 12:51pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        All_on_Red is back to his favorite slur, while pretending to abide by DPF’s comments policy. His behavior is particularly loathsome, as he pretends to know better.
        
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        January 25, 2023 2:56pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Liberty
        I presume you are a fan of the concept of liberty. AFAIK, there is nothing to stop you from advocating for a society where all contributions to mutual welfare are entirely voluntary. Alternatively, you could move to a land where the government is unable or unwilling to collect taxes (‘pillage wealth’).
        Please let me know how life sea-steading, or living in Somalia, or in an objectivist fantasy novel, works out for you.
        
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        January 25, 2023 3:02pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        I’d be OK with NZ being “run like Norway” as long as NZ agreed to cede sovereignty to Norway and be run by the Norwegian govt. It would probably be boring but fairly safe and decent. You’d be paying very high taxes for all those lovely services. So less spending money for (generally stupid) personal bling. I imagine there would also be the advantage of a more egalitarian society like the NZ of old. The 20% or so well-off in NZ would probably scream blue murder at such a prospect.
        
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        January 25, 2023 10:20pm
  - cmm
    
    Your lad might be a good boy, but that does not mean everything he says is correct.
    
    Is using VPN to get around geo-blocking stealing? It depends.
    
    Sometimes VPNs are used to circumvent licensing agreements that have been put in place when rights have been sold. For example, BBC might make a documentary that is freely available in UK (taxpayer funded etc) but is only available via Netflix elsewhere. If you use VPN to then access the BBC as if you are in UK to get the content “for free”, then yes, I agree that is stealing.
    
    But quite often the restrictions are put in placed by governments to restrict what people can watch or by some of the mega-corps such as Google. In those cases people are using VPN to overcome oppressive laws (including censorship). That might be illegal, that might even be considered immoral/wrong (depending on which side of the fence you are on), but it isn’t stealing.
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:15am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      It’s always a matter of personal choice as to which, or whose, laws one is going to observe, ignore or blatantly breach.
      
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      January 25, 2023 11:26am
    - NZer In Exile
      
      A VPN is a must-have layer of defense in today’s dystopian and predatory internet world. You also need to enact other layers.
      
      I regard https://www.privacytools.io/ as a pretty good resource on this topic.
      
      Also https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6?view=content
      
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      January 25, 2023 10:26pm
  - emmess
    
    Neeeeeeeerrrrrrrrddddddd
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:21am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  As I watched the other day, a reformed medical adviser (used to push the jab) stated simply – the unvaxxed won.
  
  His rationale was simple. If you didn’t take it, and got the pox, were under 60, you survived. Over 60 with comorbidities, less than 2% chance of death.
  
  If you did take the jab, now you’re stuck wondering what your chances are you’re going to drop dead of an early heart attack, or in 10 years time see what the experiment really means.
  
  NZ recorded its 4th death from the jab last week.
  
  Four, deaths. Bound to be more.
  
  Time was a forced medical experiment causing 4 deaths in this country would have seen heads roll.
  
  Now we are just misogynists for pointing out failings.
  
  Fuck you media, fuck you.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:21am
  - I remember when
    
    The potential death rate was available right from the start as a result of the “Daimond Princess” figures and Japanese follow-up.
    Once it became obvious that spread was aerosol the facts were largely available.
    
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    January 25, 2023 8:54am
- cmm
  
  By using a VPN you were, effectively watching USA cable TV. All those disclaimers are there to stave off legal action.
  
  The Pfizer juice is different in that they were given immunity from prosecution in USA. Any country that wanted the juice had to first sign a waiver. I have not seen any of the paperwork for NZ, but undoubtedly NZ signed too.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:24am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Angina? Best cure is to stop playing with it.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:25am
  - kowtow
    
    What if it’s a cute angina.
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:22am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Same.
      
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      January 25, 2023 10:09am
    - newview
      
      play hard
      
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      January 25, 2023 10:53am
- WaynelSexton
  
  Pfizer didn’t have to tell you the side effects, because they never ran one ad.
  The government told you to take it, the media told you to take it, celebrities told you to take it, but Pfizer never did.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:02am
  - Ghost
    
    Yes they do. Just as when you get medicine you should be given a print out of side effects etc, you should be given a print out with a vaccine
    
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    January 25, 2023 10:11am
- JackRabbit
  
  KK,
  
  The entire list of side effects, as now known of the vaccine, takes about 40 minutes to read. So an hour’s watching would be divided up thus:
  
  Pfizer advert: 41 minutes – 1 minute promo 40 minutes side effects.
  Other adverts: 5 minutes
  Movie: 14 minutes.
  
  The entire list of side effects should be published by NZ on ~~Air~~ Scare. (NZ on Air should also be a co-recipient in the upcoming Nuremberg 2 “awards”.)
  
  And a health warning that if you have any of these side effects please contact your health provider. Then we would find the true numbers of vaccine injuries.
  
  Many of my friends, relatives, suppliers, and clients held out and did not get the jab.
  
  The rest “volunteered” to get the jab based on govt propaganda of being safe, or were blackmailed in order to keep their business or job, and be able to put food in their mouth or pay the mortgage, took the jab under protest.
  
  Of the unjabbed, no problems. Of those jabbed, well over a dozen have injuries. Some came close to death. Remember, these are people I interact directly with, so a dozen or two represents a hug percentage. Of people I know directly, the number they know “jabbed with injuries”, or worse still kicked the bucket, stretches into the many dozens.
  
  “Wheres my workmate?”
  “He got has jab yesterday. Complained of aching limbs afterwards. Died in his sleep at 2.03am from blood clots, completely “unrelated” to the jab. Funeral is on Thursday.”
  
  “Where is my husband? He has not come home from the vaccine clinic.”
  “Sorry mam, he collapsed in the vaccine clinic post jab. Rushed to hospital but was dead on arrival. “Unrelated” to the vaccine of course. Blood clots. Must be heredity.”
  
  Every few days, one of the jabbed will open up about their injures, adding to the list. Many did not know they had injuries, until they compare notes with other vax injured.
  
  “I went deaf days after the jab, and thought it was just a co-incidence until I met other people with the same co-incidence.
  
  I went to a specialist who told me I had blood clots and it caused inflammation in the ear canal. He confirmed it was a vaccine injury but said he can’t report it as such, as it was not on the official list of side effects, and as such he could be struck off the medical register for spreading “dis-information”.
  
  One specialist told a young friend of mine, that his instant overnight but permanent arthritis a very common injury along with permanent aching limbs and feet, and may affect as many as 12% of those jabbed.
  
  Friend has a young family and wife, but walked away from his job and business and and moved to a job overseas in a warmer climate where he can live out the rest of his life in slightly less pain.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:18am
  - ISeeRed
    
    “Unrelated”:
    
    https://babylonbee.com/news/experts-say-they-dont-know-what-thing-is-causing-everyone-to-suddenly-collapse-but-its-definitely-not-that-one-thing
    
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    January 25, 2023 1:56pm
    - JackRabbit
      
      Cream buns are disappearing from the school cafe at an alarming rate. They are not being sold, just disappearing, like vapourising, Security cameras outside the cafe show the cream buns being delivered by the bakery and the cameras do not show them leaving by the doors.
      
      The cafe staff say they are puzzled, and no-one is talking about the elephant in the room, Billy Bunter.
      
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      January 25, 2023 4:22pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

Recently erected signs in the name of Pākaraka have been vandalised overnight. The small settlement near Wanganui was previously named Maxwell.

I’m not usually a fan of renaming locations, but on the reported story I think this is appropriate.

The settlement was named after Sergeant George Maxwell, who led a massacre of Māori children more than 150 years ago.

http://www.1news.co.nz/2023/01/24/signs-marking-whanganui-towns-maori-name-change-vandalised/
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January 25, 2023 8:01am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Expect much more of this. All part of the Coup.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:30am
- David Garrett
  
  Nevermind: Well, a couple of points there. The first is that we are – like the proverbial frog boiling to death – slowly but surely having Maori names replace “pakeha” ones. Sometimes these changes are ridiculous “Otautahi” – better known as Christchurch – was an uninhabited swamp pre European times. It certainly wasn’t a city of 350,000. In fact I doubt if any Maori were living in said swamp.
  
  If you note carefully you will see “Otautahi/ Christchurch” is slowly but surely morphing into just Otautahi, just as “Aotearoa/New Zealand” will morph in just Aotearoa unless we do something about it, such as push for a CIR on the name of the country.
  
  Secondly, exactly what evidence is there that the now hated Captain Maxwell did the dastardly deed(s) he is accused of? If there is clear documentary evidence that the man was a mass murderer then fair enough, change the name.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:41am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    I agree, David. Regarding Sgt Maxwell, corroborating evidence would be helpful, but the story as reported is unusual & I think would have been challenged if manifestly untrue.
    
    Regarding the pellmell rush to rename towns, I’m struck by the case of Hamilton. If Kirikiriroa describes a patch of gravel down by the river then by all means rename that area Kirikiriroa. But, Hamilton the town is a pakeha concept, along with its roads, sewerage and bogans. Renaming Hamilton in this way is cultural theft. I thought Maori were touchy about that sort of thing.
    
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    January 25, 2023 8:59am
  - Sideoiler
    
    …..Secondly, exactly what evidence is there that the now hated Captain Maxwell did the dastardly deed(s) he is accused of?
    
    Oral history Bro, its called oral history thats all you need.
    
    If there is clear documentary evidence that the man was a mass murderer then fair enough, change the name
    
    Requiring documentation! you colonialist oppressor you.
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:18am
  - JackRabbit
    
    According to Google translate, which NZ Te Reo “experts” on state handouts liaise with Google providing translations, “Otautahi” translates to “Audrey”. WTF.
    
    I would call the Te Reo experts “Dumbass” in Maori – “wahangu”, but that translates back into “silent”.
    
    Maori was never a written language, and very limited so as it tries to embrace modern society it is all made up. Impossible to use if translation is random.
    
    It is a clusterf**k. I’d write that in Maori too – “taupua” but it re-translates as “sign”.
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:32am
    - Ghost
      
      Don’t use Google translate, from experience with translating Portuguese it was rubbish
      
      https://maoridictionary.co.nz/search?idiom=&phrase=&proverb=&loan=&histLoanWords=&keywords=Otautahi
      
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      January 25, 2023 9:35am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Portuguese irregular verbs?
        https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400077087?ref_=dbs_m_mng_rwt_calw_tpbk_0&storeType=ebooks&qid=1674599752&sr=8-17
        
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        January 25, 2023 11:36am
      - Jack5
        
        I have found Google Translate not too bad, especially if you take note of the examples. The pronunciation isn’t perfect, and, in my view, behind Bing Translate, but for a quick reference, often enough.
        
        For best pronunciation, though, if you have the time, try the native-language speakers at Forvo.
        
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        January 25, 2023 11:39am
- EvoDriver
  
  The first thing I noticed about that article was that in the very first sentence, they used “formally” when I assume they meant “formerly”. I got annoyed with it after that and stopped reading.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:04am
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  I dont think scrubbing history helps, and if this was the correct thing to do then we should get rid of the couple of Te Kooti roads in NZ (as he absolutely ordered the killing of even infants, and to leave their bodies in the open to rot) or even Rewi St, since the roving Maori bands between Auckland and Waikato in 1863 killed settlers, including boys, who were caught on their plot of land tending cattle and shot and/or tomahawked. Much the same as what happened with Maxwell, if you consider it war.
  
  Maxwell and such perhaps shouldn’t have charged these ‘children/young people’ when they discovered them outside the pa, but this was also a period in history when Maori resistance locally had revisited cannibalism as an instrument of terror. Titokowaru wrote a letter to pakeha commanders ‘My throat is open for the flesh of the white man’.
  Just one example was a trooper out working on the edge of the bush, found later with his legs cut away.
  So fairs fair, either acknowledge the nasty stuff and grow/move forward mutually, or else start scrubbing ALL the placenames of ALL people who did wrong under current sensibilties. Any names related to killing non-combatants perhaps, but also certainly slavery, sex captives, and cannibalism should be included.
  
  Thing is, that is not what is happening at all.
  I would prefer we remember our history warts and all, and not just have one race as the victims and another as the criminals.
  Certainly the renaming of Von Tempsky street in Hamilton has more to do with an ill-defined sense of outrage at colonial soldiers and names rather than any actual conduct that would even be considered criminal today. Often it is someone with just enough knowledge to be dangerous, and lots of emotion, winning over those that ‘feel’ they are doing the right thing.
  It becomes more like self-flagellation for the public rather than being honest about the past as a country.
  
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  January 25, 2023 1:38pm
Yvette

So long, farewell. Haere Ra, goodbye.
Ardern on Tuesday embarked on her final outing as Prime Minister.
Cloaked in a korowai, and cloaked in love, Ardern walked down a Rātana street with a brass band.
“I say if you’re going to leave, leave with a brass band. And if you’re going to leave with a brass band, leave with a brass band from Rātana,” she said.
‘This is now for him’: Ardern shares her advice to Hipkins as she prepares to leave PM role
She said she was leaving the job with a “greater love and affection for New Zealand” than when she began in the job, “and I didn’t think that was possible”.
“Thank you from the bottom of my heart for the greatest privilege of my life.”
She made the pilgrimage to Rātana with her successor Chris Hipkins – a symbolic handing over of the reins of Government.
“This feels like a very special day to me because I get to see my colleague and friend take on the mantle over the next 48 hours,” she said. – Jenna Lynch
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/01/how-jacinda-ardern-s-final-full-day-as-prime-minister-played-out.html

Census collectors to carry panic alarms amid safety fears over anti-government backlash
Protestors last February spent three weeks occupying Parliament’s lawn as they complained about Covid vaccine mandates and lockdowns. The protest ended on March 2 as some hurled bricks and other objects at riot police.
Now some groups are planning one-year anniversary events this March to commemorate the protests – a time when census collectors will also be on the streets door knocking.

Deputy Prime Minister Grant Robertson last year said politicians might have to increasingly take official security teams with them, especially when meeting the public during the upcoming General Election campaign trail.

“When I travel around New Zealand now, I come across people who are yelling threats and abuse at me in such a way that I now have to think about whether I have DPS [Diplomatic Protection Squad police] with me.”
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/census-collectors-to-carry-panic-alarms-amid-safety-fears-over-anti-government-backlash/EBZL6IVI5BEXZFQFWVKOCD4E44/

New Zealand set to cancel Jacinda Ardern’s Waitangi Day BBQ amid security concerns
This article is more than 1 month old
The annual event likely won’t be going ahead in 2023 amid growing concerns that radical fringe groups are transforming the country’s security environment
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/16/new-zealand-set-to-cancel-jacinda-arderns-waitangi-day-bbq-amid-security-concerns
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January 25, 2023 8:02am
- Simon
  
  To honor of Cindy MSM have stopped reporting crime as they celebrate the amazing leadership of this incredible woman.
  
  Normal crime reporting will continue after Cindy leaves.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:53am
- My
  
  This has got to be up there with the most sycophantic articles the Herald has run.
  
  Save us from the Public Interest Journalism Fund.
  
  Touch her like Jesus – Hallelujah Sister.
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/touch-her-like-jesus-teary-ardern-farewells-pm-ship-in-peace/M2HYVR4IPBGTRDBXEZ6V6ATTZ4/?fbclid=IwAR0yV1JfqXUgQJw9ihyNwmMZUUF4VkHIgwH_vGvFO8CRU0Gm7wndYgS-wG8
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:41am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    ‘We love you. Jacinda’ at Ratana was different to the ‘F–k You, Jacinda!’ I heard from Maori at an event in the Far North.
    
    But jeez, the public fawning…..you would have thought her support hadn’t actually dropped away in polls recently.
    Don’t be fooled. Plenty of people delighted to see her go, and I don’t feel any less so when some try to turn it into ‘the nation itself has failed Saint Jacinda’.
    No. Jacinda failed NZ.
    The answer to kids going to school without shoes on is not for the kids to not go to school at all.
    We are all the so much the worse for the last 5 years.
    She is the past, and a bad one at that. Labour’s vision and mismanagement still needs to be defeated.
    
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    January 25, 2023 3:10pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  “Cloaked in a korowai, and cloaked in love, Ardern walked down a Rātana street”
  
  🙄🙄🙄
  
  Meanwhile, back in the dimension known as reality…
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:16pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Gerry Brownlee sent a text calling Jaspinda a name.
Free speech means a person can be in trouble for texting the truth?
Tyrant was the name he used.
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January 25, 2023 8:02am
- krazykiwi
  
  She imprisoned 5 million people in their homes on a whim. That makes her a accomplished tyrant by any definition.
  
  To quote George Orwell: “In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:06am
  - Wayne Mapp
    
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    Does that mean just about all western PM’s and Presidents are tyrants? Including Boris, Angela Merkel, Scott Morrison, among others?
    Though I guess the Swedish PM is not a tyrant.
    
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    January 25, 2023 8:15am
    - hmmokrightitis
      
      There was doubt?
      
      Tell me Wayne, please. You’re an ex-MP with knowledge of how these systems work. I’m an ex-CIO from within the DHB system. I helped develop and test (through a number of table top exercises) the National Pandemic Strategy.
      
      Do you wonder why that plan was never enacted?
      
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      January 25, 2023 8:23am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Very good question
        
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        January 25, 2023 9:12am
      - stiff cheese
        
        … it was that ‘phone call’ from London, wasn’t it?
        
        Ardern said someone called her from London and told her to shut down the country. At that point, she went off-script and the pre-existing Pandemic Plan was just ignored.
        
        We still don’t know who that was. Was it Gates? … was it her former colleague from Tony Blair’s office?
        
        I think we have a right to know whose intervention led to the scrapping of an established policy which in hindsight might prove to be the one we should have stuck to.
        
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        January 25, 2023 11:32am
      - kowtow
        
        stiffcheese
        
        Te Media Pardy lurv to attack politicians ,of the right, when they make a ‘controversial’ captain’s call.
        
        Well in this case it was an overseas phone call that led to the draconian , tyranical , knee jerk , emotional and totally unscientific lock downs .
        
        Yes we deserve to know and yes te media pardy should be demanding the name.
        
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        January 25, 2023 11:48am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Do you think Wayne might be starting to get it?
      Boy, wait till he learns about Excess Deaths!
      
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      January 25, 2023 8:25am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Careful, Wayne. Your moral relativism is showing. But given the propensity for your values to wave about in the political breeze we shouldn’t be surprised. Your question is of the style where if a bunch of world leaders were known to drown puppies you would enthusiastically supporting this as acceptable, while noting that doing anything contrary would be political suicide.
      
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      January 25, 2023 8:26am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Wayne Mapp – yes. You’re starting to understand the level of insanity that has been occurring over the last couple of years.
      Grab a coffee and have a read of this to get the full picture.
      
      I need to take you on a journey in time and show you how the capture of the judiciary in Nazi Germany has been directly mirrored in Australia today. And this capture is the primary reason why employee mandates – for investigational gene therapies – have been allowed to be implemented despite a promise to the world in 1947 that this would never happen again.
      
      For Australia you can substitute NZ and the corresponding players.
      
      “We” have been vilified for drawing analogies to the Nazi era when observing things play out over the last few years and yet, that’s exactly how things have played out.
      
      Why is this relevant? Because what is happening in the “post-pandemic” society is entirely enabled by the “greater good” concept – where your bodily autonomy is irrelevant whilst “the needs of society” are more important. Sounds dystopian? Absolutely. And it is a fundamental tenet of all flavours of socialist society – and enshrined in the 25th point of the national socialist manifesto on which Hitler’s regime was built.>
      
      Have a good read Wayne, take your time and understand the reality of what has occurred here and in the countries of the “leaders” you have referred to above. Try and comprehend the enormity of it, because it is enormous.
      
      https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/die-unfair-arbeitskommission?utm_source=cross-post&publication_id=413756&post_id=78355303&isFreemail=false&utm_campaign=579085&utm_medium=email
      
      Your inability to see this is disturbing but it does explain the herd mentality of those who not only went along with it, but those who actively encouraged the abuses and some who wanted more and harder.
      It’s been an eye opening time in my 60 odd years on the planet. I thought I’d seen most of what we were capable of as a species but I have to admit, I didn’t see this one coming.
      
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      January 25, 2023 8:32am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        You have given Wayne something to think about.
        You have also given all of us something to think about.
        I will read and digest it this arvo.
        Thanks.
        
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        January 25, 2023 10:19am
    - Biscuit
      
      Agreed, Wayne.
      
      We know things now that we didn’t know then but what the Labour Government did here re lockdowns had most New Zealnaders approval.
      
      ‘Tyrant’ is a poor term to use…
      
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      January 25, 2023 8:36am
      - Taieri
        
        ‘Tyrant’ is a poor term to use…
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        “Moron” is correct one. Because that’s what they all are – morons…
        
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        January 25, 2023 8:45am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Biscuit – don’t do the “we didn’t know, hindsight is a wonderful thing” denial bullcrap. It’s too easy prove it is wrong so I’m not going to even bother.
        
        I’ve had this conversation enough times with “friends” who want to “move on.” Not a problem, but acknowledge it first. Then tell me we won’t let it happen again. It’s real easy. But don’t tell me “we didn’t know.” We did. Many qualified people warned us and were viciously smeared for their troubles. They have been proven right in every aspect of what they warned about.
        
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        January 25, 2023 8:47am
    - David Garrett
      
      Sweden never locked down Wayne…do try and keep up
      
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      January 25, 2023 8:43am
      - Wayne Mapp
        
        Why don’t you re-read my original post? I specifically exempted the Swedish PM from tyrant status.
        
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        January 25, 2023 9:58am
      - Taieri
        
        I specifically exempted the Swedish PM from tyrant status.
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        Are you implying by that that all the others were tyrants?
        
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        January 25, 2023 10:45am
    - kowtow
      
      All those countries had pandemic plans , only Sweden stuck to theirs. To much vilification from the Covidians.
      
      Italy copied the CCP with a draconian lockdown , when the UK “expert” Ferguson I believe said , “we saw Italy got away with it” the UK copied .
      
      Yes , tyranny. And now the debate , as far as it’s allowed, is considering whether it was worth it.
      
      Given the all cause excess mortality , the economic and social consequences , I’ll say what I said at the start of this farce , now nearly 3 very long weary and destructive years ago;
      
      the cure will be worse than the illness .
      
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      January 25, 2023 8:46am
    - emmess
      
      Does that mean just about all western PM’s and Presidents are tyrants?
      
      Yes
      
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      January 25, 2023 9:23am
    - Stellaboxer
      
      “Does that mean just about all western PM’s and Presidents are tyrants? Including Boris, Angela Merkel, Scott Morrison, among others?” Yes.
      
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      January 25, 2023 9:29am
    - Frank the tank
      
      Boris & Merkel were part of the WEF-crowd. They were under instructions.
      
      Morrison was a prisoner of the Federal/state system in Australia where overall responsibility fell on the state premiers who all fell into line under relentless pressure from the MSM and the supposed “success” story here.
      
      And yes most Western leaders will be shown to be self-serving tyrants when CovidCult is reviewed properly decades from now.
      
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      January 25, 2023 10:20am
      - mawm
        
        Scott Morrison was/is very much one of the WEF crowd.
        
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        January 25, 2023 12:39pm
    - coge
      
      Wayne Mapp, dehumanization, segregation and persecution simply have no place in NZ society. The great majority of the population have now rejected those State implemented initiatives. Many openly or silently resisted at the time, early 2022. Only now people are beginning to speak more freely about this.
      The entire political class, to their shame, misjudged the character of the people who elected them to govern. There will be further resignations this year, following the former PM’s.
      
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      January 25, 2023 11:25am
    - NZer In Exile
      
      There may be a get of jail free card for the first 6 months of the pandemic. Beyond that the worldwide woke idiocracy censored and smeared very prominent scientists who warned AGAINST mass lock-downs.
      
      Put aside Covid. Ruth Richardson described what the Ardern govt did as “constitutional vandalism”. That sounds about right to me. The radical constitutional vandalism needs deep investigation and those responsible need to held to account in a serious way so it can’t happen again.
      
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      January 25, 2023 8:22pm
- Swifty
  
  It was one of his staff apparently.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:14am
  - Swifty
    
    And Gerry immediately disavowed it and apologised.
    
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    January 25, 2023 8:14am
    - burt
      
      This is why he could never be a Labour MP.
      
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      January 25, 2023 8:30am
    - kowtow
      
      Lesson to these very smart “leaders” .
      
      Don’t use twatter and if you do don’t let someone “manage” your account .
      
      These are the peoplewe’re meant to trust to run the country for goodness sake.
      
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      January 25, 2023 8:48am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Why did he do that? It was the truth.
      
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      January 25, 2023 9:42am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Not mentioned in the item I read, but hey, it was NZ media.
    
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    January 25, 2023 8:34am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      This explains it better.
      https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/employment-matter-brownlee-apologises-to-pm-after-his-account-likes-tweet-calling-ardern-tyrant/ar-AA16FCck
      
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      January 25, 2023 8:36am
- Swifty
  
  Sorry, and just one final thing, it wasn’t a text, it was a tweet like.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:15am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yes, a tweet. I can’t find the original shit item I read.
    That does not surprise me at all, with the state of the NZ media.
    
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    January 25, 2023 8:39am
- Blog-aholic
  
  From reports Gerry wasn’t at the helm of that and is now reviewing who does his SM…..apparently a matter of employment now.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:18am
  - David Garrett
    
    Blog: I find it deeply sad that our polis feel the need to “tweet” at all…utterly banal form of communication.
    
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    January 25, 2023 8:46am
    - burt
      
      Nice short snappy message you delivered there.
      
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      January 25, 2023 8:54am
- peterwn
  
  All those who are upset with this have magnified the ‘damage’ by repeatedly mentioning that assertion. Gerry is probably laughing his head off.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:27am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    That’s how the Left manufacture their disinformation.
    
    It’s so easy to get some folks to swallow the first bit of clickbait presented to them
    
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    January 25, 2023 10:47am
- Scott
  
  Let’s see – well she did get up one day and told NZ that she had consulted with Cabinet and ordered from midnight all NZers were confined to their homes till further notice.
  She did make everyone get two shots of the Vax and if they didn’t they would become outcasts.
  She did control all the media so no one could escape the relentless 24 hours a day barrage of covid fear messaging.
  She did drive non violent protestors out of the parliamentary grounds by force.
  
  She did under cover of covid advance her radical abortion agenda and even telling the churches what they can and cannot pray!
  
  She even encouraged neighbours to inform on each other about covid violations.
  
  So the word “tyrant” has been well earned IMHO.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:28am
- Nickc2
  
  Tyrant (noun) a cruel and oppressive ruler
  Yip, it fits! Gerry’s in the clear until Labour’s Coven of Witches changes the meaning of the word.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:32am
- MCōs
  
  That’s not what he did.
  He ‘liked’ a tweet that called PM Ardern a tyrant, as if nobody would notice.
  Or his official Twitter account did
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:46am
  - Swifty
    
    He did no such thing, he says.
    
    A staff member did.
    
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    January 25, 2023 8:57am
    - MCōs
      
      The old hiding behind a staff member trick.
      
      If there’s one thing I don’t like it’s the big boss not taking responsibility for what goes out of the office in his name.
      Years ago my daughter engaged some lawyers to do some straightforward conveyance work when she bought an apartment.
      They seriously cocked it up . . . .
      I rang the partner my daughter dealt with and he said sorry it was Shirley the clerk’s fault . . .
      My head exploded.
      I told him I didn’t care about his problems, he was the boss, sort it out.
      
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      January 25, 2023 9:48am
      - Swifty
        
        Except he did take responsibility.
        
        He immediately personally apologised to Ardern, and undertook to make the necessary changes to ensure it never happened again.
        
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        January 25, 2023 10:06am
      - Inandout
        
        MC, did you firstly do your homework?
        https://www.consumerprotection.govt.nz/help-product-service/buying-or-renting-a-house/working-with-lawyer-conveyancer/
        
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        January 25, 2023 10:08am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    But fine for Ardern yo like that song about raping and killing Stephe when Key was pm, screenshots were kept and analysis showed it was from her
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:52am
  - graham
    
    Certainly not the first time that an MP’s embarrassing tweet has apparently been written by somebody else.
    
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/03/m-ori-party-mp-rawiri-waititi-s-tweet-about-p-keh-being-archaic-species-was-made-by-someone-else.html
    
    Māori Party co-leader Rawiri Waititi says a now-deleted tweet describing Pākehā as an “archaic species” was written by someone else.
    
    The deleted tweet, screenshots of which have been published online, discusses Caucasians, a term used to describe white people, and their “active assimilation agenda”.
    
    The tweet, according to screenshots, says: “Pay them no attention, their archaic species is becoming more extinct as a new Aotearoa is on the rise.”
    
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    January 25, 2023 10:52am
    - NZer In Exile
      
      “their archaic species is becoming more extinct as a new Aotearoa is on the rise.”
      
      Gosh. Sounds kind of like the utterances of a point blank racist buffoon. All good with the loony left apparently. Proving it’s not actually the desire for for fairness that drives them, but rather, it’s childish hatred.
      
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      January 25, 2023 8:28pm
- Prince
  
  Actually, I think his sin was that he ‘liked’ a text where Ardern was called a tyrant.
  The thought police are becoming more emboldened.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:19am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Sausages in letterboxes on Waiheke. Now a sausage in a letterbox at Pt Chevalier?
This is ‘news’
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January 25, 2023 8:04am
- Colville
  
  ….anything to distract from the failures…
  
  The level astroturfing in the media over the last week has been of the chart!
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:30am
- Biscuit
  
  Early ‘Easter Eggs’, Steve?
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:37am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Could be. Play school TV 1 have Detective Columbo onto it.
    (wearing a khaki coat)
    
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    January 25, 2023 8:43am
  - pdm
    
    I would settle for a few hot cross buns if you are travelling this way Biscuit.
    
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    January 25, 2023 8:45am
Mark Hanley

It is not hard to identify and articulate the many failings of Jacinda Adern’s and Chris Hipkin’s Labour Party.

The difficult part is devising and enacting viable solutions.

I know it isn’t going to shift the earth from its axis but I emailed my local MP to do my small part to improve the key underlying issue behind all your complaints.

THE EVER INCREASING: COLLECTION, WASTAGE, AND EMBEZZLEMENT OF OUR HARD EARNED TAX DOLLARS.

pls write to your local MP as I have done…..

Dear local ACT / National MP.

Like many, I’m curious as to how Jacinda Adern’s party spent so much money with no demonstrable improvements. Will National/ACT conduct a forensic audit of all government spending to find out who has the ‘collected borrowed and printed’ billions and to explain why there was no improvement in any of the standard govt kpis?

Then, is it National /ACT policy to strengthen public spending: records, reporting, and accountability so we don’t fund the creation of more millionaire PMs and finance ministers?
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January 25, 2023 8:08am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Nats have stated they will go through cost with a fine tooth comb, Ufindell is a forensic banker, no wonder they tried their best to shaft him, Robertson looked filthy when it was stated that was his job
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:54am
  - Mark Hanley
    
    That is great news but my suspician is the embezzlers have found loopholes. Otherwise Clark and Cullens sudden wealth could have been subject to more public scrutiny.
    
    The key is part 2. Improving the regulatory framework, accountability, and consequences
    
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    January 25, 2023 11:42am
- Taieri
  
  Will National/ACT conduct a forensic audit of all government spending to find out who has the ‘collected borrowed and printed’ billions and to explain why there was no improvement in any of the standard govt kpis?
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  I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for that. Not a single government anywhere that I’m aware of has reduced the outreach of the state and its expenditure. On the contrary.
  
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  January 25, 2023 10:50am
slightlyrighty

“Touch her like Jesus, touch her gown,”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/touch-her-like-jesus-teary-ardern-farewells-pm-ship-in-peace/M2HYVR4IPBGTRDBXEZ6V6ATTZ4/

What we are seeing is the death throes of the cult of Jacindamania.

That her ardent followers openly compare her to the messiah is just a symptom of that. Have we ever seen a PM who was presented in a way that this one has been.

Remember the Mural of a Hijab wearing Ardern painted on a huge silo, (In Melbourne!)

The adulation of a politician to a level that it achieves cult like status is a new thing in this country, and the most faithful of her followers have been so blinded by their adulation that they struggle to articulate what she has done. If you ever listen to an Ardern Supporter on Talkback Radio, they will go on and on about how wonderful she is, but ask about the policies, and you will draw a blank.

Labour was re-elected on a wave of Jacindamania. She played personality politics for all it was worth.

Previous PMs have been despised for their politics, not their personalities. However, when your campaign is all about personality and not politics, you can’t be shocked that the criticism gets personal.
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January 25, 2023 8:09am
- ClanMcleod
  
  slightlyrighty – Never mind the silo in Melbourne, she was projected onto the tallest building in the world.
  
  https://www.smh.com.au/world/oceania/world-s-tallest-building-lit-up-with-image-of-jacinda-ardern-20190323-p516ua.html
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:42am
- Muttonbird
  
  She’s a bit like Jesus in that many would like to nail her to a cross.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:46am
  - kowtow
    
    Rubbish.
    People just want pollies out of their lives but you’re right she’s like God , omnipresent and te media pardy would have her omnipotent.
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:20am
  - Don Beckett
    
    She’s more like the thieves who were crucified alongside him. But in saying that, I would never want my worst enemy to be crucified. Now that she’s gone it is fair enough to criticise her policies & govt. leadership, but its time to leave her alone. May she happily lead her life as an obscure housewife & mother and not be heard of again.
    Is that likely ???????
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:33am
    - NothingLeft
      
      Torture-to-death would be a good idea for evil despots and their senior supporters that can be captured – and perhaps any leader of an organization that deliberately causes the unnecessary deaths of 100’s or 1000’s of non-combatants (eg drug cartels). Need to maximally discourage aspiring dictators.
      
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      January 25, 2023 12:18pm
  - Inandout
    
    Mutton, I would say the lefties would regard Jacinda as a born again Castro or Mao, but hardly a Christian.
    
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    January 25, 2023 10:11am
  - Frank the tank
    
    Like most former PMs will be forgotten in 6 months. Much to the disappointment of herself and her fan club.
    
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    January 25, 2023 10:22am
  - Taieri
    
    She’s a bit like Jesus
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    A false prophet, is that what you mean?
    
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    January 25, 2023 10:51am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Like Jesus?
    Heck no. Jesus came back!
    Try this
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyyoaBa7DaE
    
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    January 25, 2023 11:18am
- kowtow
  
  She’s been canonised by te media pardy , domestically and internationally for her “empathy” .
  
  She dons various garb in very public settings , makes the right noises and pulls the correct emotional visage ( I consider it akin to a gurning competition) for the occasions and voila , The Messiah , now literally.
  
  She’s nothing , done nothing positive and te media have shown how dishonest they are promoting her so relentlessly as some sort of modern wonder .
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:02am
  - stiff cheese
    
    ‘Bollard installers’ will be sorry to see her go — she’s been good for their industry.
    
    Likewise, the people selling Fog Cannons and Roller Doors to shopowners, they’re grateful for her term in office.
    
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    January 25, 2023 11:55am
    - Roberta
      
      It’s OK – she’s sold her shareholdings in those companies already!
      
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      January 25, 2023 7:55pm
- Ehlana
  
  “Touch her like Jesus”?
  
  How about “I am the Lord your God … You shall have no other gods before me … You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them”?
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:13am
- Philview
  
  The thing about Jesus is that he hugged lepers rather than locking them out. The lady that touched Jesus had a disease so I think the mindset is different between the two Js.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:34am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  She doesn’t go politics, just spin and giggles
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:55am
- JimBobJoe
  
  This is a Labour thing. Savage potraitshung on walls in socialist houses in NZ for decades.. Jacinda worhsip is more extreme but thats due to female adulation of her as a totem of the modern woman in a post religious world….
  
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  January 25, 2023 10:14am
Sparrow

From memory it was the Times of London which called her a tyrant. Funny yesterday passed three utes with MAGA stickers on them. Live in rural area never seen them before. People coming out of the woodwork?
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January 25, 2023 8:09am
- Gravelroad
  
  @Sparrow-
  I live in a rural area.
  I have never seen any signs referencing MAGA items or thoughts.
  The majority of people around here are ordinary NZ citizens working to make a living for their families.
  Is you are suggesting that rural = deplorable, please don’t.
  Farmers, in particular, get enough of that already.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:35am
  - NothingLeft
    
    Made Ardern Go Away
    
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    January 25, 2023 12:19pm
- krazykiwi
  
  I believe they called her “the toothy tyrant”
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:43am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  They are around, including me. My Landcruiser has MAGA and Trump 2024 stickers in the rear window.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:48am
Frank the tank

So 2 mass shootings in California. The state with arguably the toughest gun laws in the country. Yet crickets from the President, the MSM and social media.

If these were in Texas or Florida there would be endless stories, Presidential visits and former NZ leaders in US talk shows…….
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January 25, 2023 8:10am
- sirknz
  
  Shooter wasn’t a white male. Expect it to be memory holed today.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:33am
- Biscuit
  
  Frank, I despair re the US…
  And I just don’t bother tuning in to the ‘Massacre of the Week’ segment of the News.
  Lemme guess:
  ‘I can’t believe this happened in (x)’
  Candle vigils
  Political ‘Enough is enough’ statements
  ‘Something must be done’
  ..
  ..
  ..
  ..
  And, a day or two later, a new News story:
  ‘Five killed and dozens injured in shooting mayhem in…’
  ‘I can’t believe this happened in (x)’
  Candle vigils
  Political ‘Enough is enough’ statements
  ‘Something must be done’
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:51am
  - Ehlana
    
    Exactly the observation I heard on the radio this morning from a foreign correspondent in the US.
    
    It’s set piece theatre. And yes, this one has also come with the President declaring that something must be done, and proposing new legislation, which we are assured cannot pass through the divided US Congress and Senate so will never be signed into law.
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:16am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Biscuit – as you predicted.
    
    Half Moon Bay: Seven dead in another California mass shooting
    
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64382598
    
    Thoughts and prayers.
    
    Half Moon Bay: Seven dead in another California mass shooting.
    
    Calls for gun control.
    
    “We are sickened by today’s tragedy in Half Moon Bay,” Mr Pine said in a statement. “There are simply too many guns in this country and there has to be a change.”
    
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    January 25, 2023 11:08am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  No mention if those shootings were in gun free zone or not.
  Because of no mention, I assume they were.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:54am
  - Swifty
    
    100 years ago the US had just as many guns per capita as they have today, without nearly as many gun murders nor the mass shootings, which have evolved only relatively recently.
    
    How do gun control folk account for that?
    
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    January 25, 2023 2:21pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Social media
      
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      January 25, 2023 7:09pm
- kowtow
  
  Proves that it’s not the shooting ( or victims) that matter to the Pollies , it’s who was the shooter .
  
  Same with our media . Those stories came well down the priority list .
  Unlike when Trump was in power and a black drug addled thief died from an OD while under police restraint in front of the cameras.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:54am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    America does not have a gun problem. It has a M̲e̲n̲t̲a̲l̲ ̲H̲e̲a̲l̲t̲h̲ problem disguised as a gun problem.
    434 million guns in civilian hands. If guns were the actual problem, we would know about it.
    
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    January 25, 2023 10:29am
    - ISeeRed
      
      America also has a gang problem. Remove gang-related gun violence and deaths from the stats and watch the murder rate plummet.
      
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      January 25, 2023 3:32pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      It has a neomarxist academic problem. Social engineering from neomarxist academics accounts for most of the societal clusterf#%#s there.
      
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      January 25, 2023 8:32pm
slightlyrighty

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/jacinda-ardern-is-no-saint/

A great read….

Best description of Ardern I’ve read.

“She was that slightly pretty, rather swotty girl in class who just might let you copy her homework so long as you promised to think seriously about becoming a vegetarian.”
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January 25, 2023 8:11am
- cmm
  
  Good description, but quite inaccurate.
  I suppose some might find her pretty. I certainly do not.
  Swotty? Nope, she really found her level in the fish and chips shop. Vacuous is the word I would use.
  It would be useless copying her homework unless the assignment was to draw rainbows with heaps of glitter.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:41am
  - mawm
    
    She’s a frowney-faced, dull-witted socialist bot. I’d probably never find cause to copy homework from her as I’d want a better product.
    
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    January 25, 2023 12:50pm
- David Garrett
  
  slightly: Here’s an even better quote from that story:
  
  Her hijab-cosplay in the wake of an attack on a mosque was yet another grim example of a privileged western woman showing off by wearing what is for millions of non-western women a living shroud worn under threat of death, as we see most recently in Iran.
  
  Can you imagine what Iranian women – who live in daily fear of severe beatings or even death for failing to wear the hijab “properly” – would feel about that shameless display?
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:57am
  - cmm
    
    It makes sense if you understand the purpose of this action.
    
    She was not really donning the hijab for the benefit of the Muslim women. She was doing it to woke-signal to her peers: other white woke western women.
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:31am
    - kowtow
      
      Yep , I don’t see much solidarity from the perpetually outraged , activist mob (including te media pardy) for the appalling hangings currently going on in Iran.
      
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      January 25, 2023 11:53am
- alex Masterley
  
  One of the better bits of writing I have seen in a while.
  You are not left in any doubt about what the writer is saying or her views on the subject matter.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:19am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Julie Bindell is a joy to read when she gets up in a bad mood. Her latest ripping up pampered daughters of the elite is also worth a few chuckles.
    
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    January 25, 2023 11:29am
    - Swifty
      
      She’s great.
      
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      January 25, 2023 2:17pm
Frank the tank

The left are flapping over Luxon’s speech at Ratana.

Personally it was his best yet and demonstrated he is:
a). Listening to the electorate
b). Starting to realize he has a couple of things between his legs.

Keep it up and he might be PM in a few months time.
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January 25, 2023 8:12am
- cmm
  
  Chippy is a white, straight, male. He has no sacred cows to hide behind.
  
  Luxon can now speak up without fear of being called racist/sexist/homophobic etc.
  
  Labour has built its power base on divisive identity politics. By playing Hipkins they have set themselves up to fail.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:37am
  - RoboRob
    
    I believe Luxons speech has been attacked from several sources as been racist. So no change there.
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:11am
    - kowtow
      
      Yes , it’s an appalling state of affairs when one can be so blithely labelled a “racist” for wanting to protect our long and hard fought for and won rights and liberties , namely “democracy” , to be flushed away in a tide of filth of neo Marxist gender/identity politics .
      With the active support of the so called fourth estate , now paid for regime attack dogs.
      
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      January 25, 2023 11:58am
  - Alwyn Poole
    
    Apologise – entered the wrong clip. Mids please remove previous.
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:32am
  - Mark Hanley
    
    Very good point.
    
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    January 25, 2023 12:03pm
- Martonman
  
  Must be on track chech out latest To Morgan poll
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:37am
- krazykiwi
  
  I’ve been pretty dark on Luxon, but I must confess his speech left me just a teensie weensie bit hopeful. We’ll see. Proof, pudding and all that.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:46am
  - cmm
    
    Luxon was completely useless against Cindy. Now he can turn on the bloke a bit and it doesn’t matter.
    
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    January 25, 2023 8:58am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Let’s hope Luxon is treated as respectfully when he gets to Waitangi.
    
    Ratana is always a welcoming space – Waitangi isn’t.
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:02am
    - Frank the tank
      
      Well one of the usual suspects won’t be there this year.
      
      And no dildos, mud and shit will likely be flung at Luxon with Hone trying to staunch him out.
      
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      January 25, 2023 10:25am
      - Jack5
        
        Why do MPs waste their time at this insult-fest?
        
        Helen Clark knew how to avoid it with dignity:
        
        https://nzhistory.govt.nz/politics/treaty/waitangi-day/21st-century-waitangi-day
        
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        January 25, 2023 11:43am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Lets hope they throw shit at him, it will only gain him support
      
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      January 25, 2023 11:52am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Well he answered questions of media in Auckland today, Judith Collins was standing with him, and smiled with no eye brow raised, he was very forceful with his answers, he has changed his demeanor a bit, he sounded strong and dominant, i think he has been working to a plan all the time, he is starting to move, a dead giveaway yesterday’s speech was the vulgar Peters coming out to say he couldn’t understand him and only NZF is worth listening to, well he was very clear yesterday, clearly it takes the sunlight of Peters burbling
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:07pm
- septic skeptic
  
  Well I finally heard him elaborate somewhat on what he meant by “opposed to co-governance in the provision of National services”. Apparently it’s just fine in management of local rivers and parks (think about Hauraki Gulf Marine Park) and any funding that Labour had given to 5he Maori Health board will be given to Iwi instead.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:47am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He said naming of a river or cleaning and the likes and maintenance, these things have been happening for decades FFS
    
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    January 25, 2023 11:53am
    - krazykiwi
      
      “these things have been happening for decades FFS”
      
      Does that make them right?
      
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      January 25, 2023 12:39pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Thats not what he said, he said the maori health authority will be scrapped
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:09pm
- oldpark
  
  Yes like “we shall not be moved” message to the bribed waste of space Stuff and the forever too sweet to be wholesome also rans Main Stream Media,who cant get out of their way, spinning claptrap about Ardern.Seems they have never heard of The Emperor /Empress has no clothes .
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:53am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Yes, but media say Chipkins that was talking Ardern waffle, and spouting about what they have done in the paste performed better than Luxon, what utter bollocks, if you also listen to his media questions after he was decisive, on point, and never once erred
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:58am
Maggie Pie

WATCH – JACINDA’S LEGACY
(warning…some may find content distressing)

Journalist Chris Lynch tours ‘tent city’ on outskirts of Christchurch.

https://twitter.com/chrislynchmedia/status/1617800470332084224

@3:18 neighbor Caroline NOT happy 🙁
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January 25, 2023 8:14am
- cmm
  
  The council say they can’t do anything… Bullshit!
  
  Try build a house that doesn’t have double glazing and they will be around to tell you to pull it down.
  
  So it is completely bullshit that their hands are tied with informal structures.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:33am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Absolutely right cmm. What a weakling te Mayor must be 🙁
    
    Couldn’t imagine Wayne Brown allowing sh*t like that up here.
    
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    January 25, 2023 8:42am
    - cmm
      
      I am hopeful the Wayne Effect will spread.
      
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      January 25, 2023 9:34am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Oh FFS, they gave her a guard of honour as she left parliament today
  
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  January 25, 2023 11:54am
Paulus

In today’s picturesof Ardern and Chippy it looks as though she puts her arms round him like he was being mothered.
I think she has set him up sadly to take her consquences.
Robertson is lying very low having missed her kiss of death. I expect he will will try amd get away from Finance – where he has been dreadful.
It was said at the Bowls Club yesterday that she has done more damage to New Zealand than the Second Worl War.
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January 25, 2023 8:16am
- O C Smith
  
  As a country we were united after WW2 and prepared to work our way out of the damage.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:46am
Maggy Wassilieff

RNZ has been running items on Titewhai Harawira’s life.

They seem to have forgotten her conviction and imprisonment for assault along with 4 others of a Mental Health patient who was in her care.

In 1988 Harawira, her daughter Hiniwhare, son Arthur and two others were found guilty of beating a Carrington Hospital patient. At the time Harawira was head of the Whare Paia Maori health unit. The jury also found Harawira guilty of a charge of threatening to kill. She was jailed for nine months.

The sentencing judge said that the five had carried out a “vicious and violent” attack on the patient and that the offences were “an arrogant and frightening abuse of authority and power”.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/titewhai-harawira-nana-or-bully/4NOMI44CMZM6AQAKTIXFJSOKJU/

Some Background on what led to the assault in the Maori Health Unit:
https://trc.org.nz/sites/trc.org.nz/files/digital%20library/Auckland%20Hospital%20Board%20Planning%20services%20%26%20works%20committee%2023%2005%2088.pdf
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January 25, 2023 8:18am
- Ehlana
  
  The same thing occurred to me Maggy. I know it is generally considered impolite to speak ill of the dead, but if you are a news organisation, shouldn’t you acknowledge that conviction, as well as the abuse meted out to Tariana Turia (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/harawira-pairs-abuse-sickens-turia/) and, from memory, Helen Clark.
  
  We hear so much about bullying and mental health issues these days, surely they need to be acknowledged in this case?
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:29am
  - krazykiwi
    
    “I know it is generally considered impolite to speak ill of the dead”
    
    In ancient Athens is was illegal. Solon, a prominent lawmaker banned “speaking evil against the living and the dead”.
    
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    January 25, 2023 8:50am
  - David Garrett
    
    Ehlana: That link doesn’t work
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:00am
    - Ehlana
      
      I forgot to leave the letters and numbers on the end. I think this should work: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/harawira-pairs-abuse-sickens-turia/FZVT6WGXP6J2N43N5CZ7VZKLTM/
      
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      January 25, 2023 10:14am
- Swifty
  
  But whenever Aaron Gilmore and others are mentioned that are always prefaced as ‘disgraced’.
  
  What was Gilmour’s sin? Acted like a dork when at a restaurant.
  
  I think Gilmour is a dick, but it’s the double standard that irks me.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:33am
  - David Garrett
    
    Swifty: Quite so…I am also in the “disgraced” brigade if I am ever mentioned – thankfully very rarely these days, although I’m sure I’d be back front and centre if I ever got another drink driving conviction or snotted someone.
    
    Although Gilmore is pretty much his own worst enemy, I wince when I see the hapless bastard making the mistake of rising to the media’s bait – again.
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:03am
- Prince
  
  I heard a section about 6:30am where that was mentioned.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:25am
- Swifty
  
  “Professor Margaret Mutu, of the University of Auckland, says the media give Harawira too tough a time.
  
  “It’s well-known in academic circles that if an indigenous person challenges the colonising Government, they must expect to be demonised.””
  
  I don’t know if this was ever true, or that Mutu conflates debate and criticism with demonisation.
  
  But either way, it’s certainly not the case now though is it Professor Mutu?
  
  Maori criticising Labour these days are instantly awarded lucrative taxpayer-funded positions, functions and working group memberships.
  
  Yep, under Labour it’s the squeaky wheels that get the quickest and most liberal oiling.
  
  Can you just imagine the untold hundreds of millions of dollars elite Maori, like the learned Professor Mutu, would have received under co-governance, 3 Waters and anything else Labour has got hidden from us.
  
  I tell you too, if I was Luxon I’d be taking a massive sword to tertiary education in this country.
  
  If people value what Professor Mutu preaches to them let them pay for it.
  
  Instead we’ve got these elites, in their well-padded chairs, in their lovely offices, being worshipped by naive students, with taxpayer-funded jobs for life spreading poisonous bile to any who will listen.
  
  Spitting and hurling abuse at the very society which has delivered them this wonderful life. Which sends them all around the world on expensive educational junkets and professional development.
  
  I’d slash Maori, Fat and Gender Studies etc in an instant, I wouldn’t care who screams and yells. They are just breeding grounds for lefty extremists and I don’t see why I should have to pay for it.
  
  Let the user pay and their classrooms would empty by lunchtime.
  
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  January 25, 2023 1:52pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Hmmm. Professor Margaret Mutu.
    
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    January 25, 2023 8:34pm
Lee C

Kiwis are so polite.

The lionisation of Ardrn continues apace in the MSM.

The elephant in the room is – she was a f88n disaster.

People need to grow up and stop latching onto fairy tales to sustain their brittle lack of self-reliance.

IMO.
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January 25, 2023 8:20am
- NZer In Exile
  
  Can we compile a list of the undemocratic and dodgy things pulled under her watch, just to hold up in front of the zombies who worship her?
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:35pm
herb1

Biden’s Press Secretary, Karine Jean-Pierre, alongside Russian pretender Lavrov, seem to be the current versions of Saddam Hussein’s PR guy, Comical Ali
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January 25, 2023 8:21am
- Inandout
  
  herb, I have watched clips of Karine descending to pathetic levels attempting to excuse Biden’s appalling behaviour and outright lies. Comical Karine….beautiful.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:47am
  - Swifty
    
    “There are no American tanks in Baghdad. No. None. Never.”
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:20am
  - Random T Person
    
    Heh, she is indeed comical and she is also indeed beautiful, very good looking idiot that one.
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:51am
    - Inandout
      
      RT, pretty in a Barbie doll kind of way and perhaps as intelligent as Ken the doll.
      
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      January 25, 2023 10:21am
      - mawm
        
        More Ronald McDonald than Barbie.
        
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        January 25, 2023 1:00pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Sounds like an interesting job. Being paid to talk crap all day.
    
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    January 25, 2023 8:37pm
Tony Stuart

The Herald continues its jihad against the National Party over political donations. Today, they target former National Party president Peter Goodfellow, who donated $30,000 to National. The donation was correctly disclosed.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/ex-national-party-president-peter-goodfellow-makes-30000-party-donation/QS5ZGYQ6Q5FF5KWYYOQ7APMV2U/#

It’s Peter Goodfellow’s money, and he is free to do what he wants with it, including donation to the political party of his choice. As long as disclosure rules are followed, as they have been in this instance, I don’t see a problem.

Where’s the story about the thousands of dollars Green Party MP’s tithe to the party? Where are the stories of donations of cash and kind, especially labour during election campaigns, from the trade unions to the Labour Party?

National has done absolutely nothing wrong in soliciting and receiving these donations. Everything has been done absolutely in compliance with donation rules. Yet somehow the Herald, including Simon Wilson yesterday, is trying to create a perception of something dodgy going on when it isn’t. Dirty politics anyone?
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January 25, 2023 8:23am
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Agreed. Where’s the story about Jacinda Ardern’s donations to the Labour Party?
  Ardern, Jacinda… $18,645.92
  
  https://elections.nz/assets/2021-annual-returns-/Labour-Party-Annual-Return-2021.pdf
  
  Suspect Jacinda’s total donations since becoming PM way more than Peter’s – but it’s become very obvious this last week where the MSM is going to take us with their “news” for the next 9 months!
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:44am
- peterwn
  
  Wow! It is not paywalled. Simon and Herald must want people to read it.
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:48am
- Nickc2
  
  Perhaps Simon Wilson’s looking for a job at CNN.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:09am
- NZer In Exile
  
  Who’s funding the disinformation clown show?
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:38pm
I remember when

‘Sticky Weather’: Rain, ‘notably humid’ air coming as temperatures push towards 30C: Newshub.

Thank Goodness.
For a moment I thought they were going to be left with an oversupply of yellow, orange and red ink.
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January 25, 2023 8:30am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I’ve just had to put a thermal top and a merino jersey on!
  
  Might have to put a heater on.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:14am
cas

Over the last week, I was watching bits of the Tour Down Under cycling race around South Adelaide’s hills, beaches and vineyards. The cyclists pedalled over 700km over what looked to me to be perfect roads.
We couldn’t have anything similar here unless you called it the Last Man/Woman Standing race. Most of the competitors would be eliminated during the race owing to falling in the potholes at 50 or 60kmh and breaking their collarbones or worse.

Perhaps Faka Katire should send some people to Adelaide to tell them how to keep the roads well maintained.
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January 25, 2023 8:31am
- 70andstilllearning
  
  FK could also learn how to set speed limits from SA 🙂
  
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  January 25, 2023 10:11am
- Taieri
  
  We couldn’t have anything similar here
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  Done an extended trip last week over the SH85, SH8 and SH87. Not perfect, but pretty good overall. No potholes anywhere and evidence of recent repairs in quite a few places.
  
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  January 25, 2023 10:55am
Yvette

Sean Plunket kills the BS on the great misogyny narrative
YouTube video –

0:29 So if anyone thinks that this was a sudden emotional decision by a kind of burnt out Prime Minister to leave and and then the Labour Party miraculously uh had a bloodless coup and installed a new leadership and it was all just unicorns and rainbows riding into the sunset, that’s a big pile of BS. Isn’t it it is now becoming clear from what Hipkins himself has said that certain people within the Labor leadership were given a month’s notice a month’s notice that Jacinda was throwing in the towel and they had a month to strategise and figure out how to take control of, well, to be honest not just the Labor Party, but the Government.

How to install a new leadership and in some ways, a not-so-new leadership in the government, in a seamless and bloodless manner and those people are the people and 1:37 we look behind the scenes and see what changes there are in the prime minister’s office; very very few, very very few. Chris Hopkins is the new front man and he has given some indications that Labour will try in the next nine months to rebrand itself, as not so friendly to Maori, not so interested in the Treaty of Waitangi not so interested in co-governance, not so interested in merging the state broadcasters, not so interested in Three Waters. They’re going to try and tell you that they are the working-class heroes of New Zealand 2:14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8YSpg_2hDU
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January 25, 2023 8:34am
- Nickc2
  
  I must admit, I previously had no time for Sean Plunket because he took so long to say so little. Now, I’m viewing him in a more favourable light.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:20am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    He can be a dick at times, but he is “doing the Lord’s work” so to speak.
    
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    January 25, 2023 8:41pm
    - Joe Banana
      
      He still says the vaccines were/are safe so B/S to that
      
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      January 25, 2023 9:32pm
Captain Mainwaring

Who is the subject of Sharon Murdoch’s latest ‘cartoon’ supposed to be?
If it’s the Chipster it’s a total fail.
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January 25, 2023 8:34am
Maggy Wassilieff

Thomas Cranmer reflects on co-governance

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/thomas-cranmer-luxon-talks-co-governance-at-r%C4%81tana-p%C4%81
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January 25, 2023 8:35am
I remember when

A cold spell in China has seen Mohe, their northern most city, record one of their coldest temperatures -53 degrees Centigrade (minus 63.4 degrees Fahrenheit.)
In neighbouring Russia, Yakutsk, the world’s coldest city, saw temperatures plunge to minus 62.7 degrees Centigrade (minus 80.9 degrees Fahrenheit), the coldest in more than twenty years.

Beat they can’t wait for the CO2 levels to come down!
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January 25, 2023 8:41am
- Inandout
  
  Irw, I read that temperatures in Stalin’s Gulags were down to minus 63.5C in 1933.
  
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  January 25, 2023 10:31am
- NZer In Exile
  
  It’s climate change! It’s climate change! We’re still doomed if we don’t immediately destroy the economy and go back to the agrarian age!😀
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:44pm
mogg

Tonight is Burns night. Address to a haggis;

Ye Pow’rs wha mak mankind your care,
And dish them out their bill o’ fare,
Auld Scotland wants nae skinking ware
That jaups in luggies;
But, if ye wish her gratefu’ prayer,
Gie her a Haggis!
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January 25, 2023 8:43am
- NothingLeft
  
  Imagine how popular he would have been if he spoke english?
  
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  January 25, 2023 12:26pm
cmm

Hide is advising Chippy to go with a snap election before their support falls even further.

Maybe Chippy is thinking about it. After all he can’t be bothered moving into Premier House because he knows he will just be moving out again soon.

It makes me wonder what’s going to happen there. Will some meth heads turn Premier House into a slum in the next few months?
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January 25, 2023 8:45am
- MCōs
  
  I’m guessing here, but I would have thought he prefers to live in his own home just up the road and save the taxpayer a few Bob.
  I suppose he could have moved and rented out his house for a few months. That hasn’t been unknown.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:12am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They weee given a total majority, an early election would be seen by the voter as nuts and the results would be catastrophic, no matter what he does he is wedged
    
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    January 25, 2023 10:29am
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    How does that save the tp’s a few Bob? Will they sell it off? or maybe get Ministerial Services to loan it to Kāinga Ora for a couple of month to save some motel bills?
    
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    January 25, 2023 10:29am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Save money? That place will still cost heaps to run, snd security probably still has to b in place
    
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    January 25, 2023 10:34am
Maggie Pie

TWITTER TRENDING….

How did so many Pedophiles end up in teaching positions at Dilworth School for the best part of 40 years, without any of those supposedly ‘in charge’ being unaware of the activities?

https://dilworthclassaction.co.nz
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January 25, 2023 9:02am
- MCōs
  
  When I was at St Bedes a pedophile priest was there for a year. His reputation preceded him from his previous school so everybody knew.
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/129227417/in-plain-sight–the-paedophile-headteacher-who-escaped-justice-for-50-years#:~:text=Durning%20never%20faced%20the%20courts,after%20they%20were%20long%20retired.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:24am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Thx for the link Cossie. Very very disturbing read.
    
    Although suppose you have to have some sympathy for ‘Father Woodcock’
    
    LOL!!
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:39am
The Redbaiter

How can Chris Luxon explain the conflict where he states that government services should be based on need not race, but then say that when selecting potential MPs for the National Party, New Zealanders of European descent should take second place?

This seems a clear example of the kind of deceit, racism and hypocrisy that always underpins wokeism, and many must find it difficult to respect and vote for a party leader who so willingly and weakly buys into such nonsense.
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January 25, 2023 9:08am
- peterwn
  
  Presumably you will be voting Labour later this year.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:50am
  - The Redbaiter
    
    “One of the painful signs of years of dumbed-down education is how many people are unable to make a coherent argument. They can vent their emotions, question other people’s motives, make bold assertions, repeat slogans – anything except reason.”
    — Thomas Sowell
    
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    January 25, 2023 3:11pm
All_on_Red

A mate just text me Dec Roy MorganPoll, Labour is at 27.5%
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January 25, 2023 9:08am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Nice
  
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  January 25, 2023 10:35am
- NothingLeft
  
  Roy Morgan poll:
  
  National: 35% (-4)
  Labour: 27.5% (+2)
  ACT: 14.5% (3.5)
  Greens: 11% (-1)
  TPM: 4% (-)
  NZF: 4% (+0.5)
  TOP: 2.5% (-)
  NC: 1% (+0.5)
  
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  January 25, 2023 12:30pm
WaynelSexton

The unvaccinated should of said something….

https://iqfy.com/unvaccinated-silence/
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January 25, 2023 9:17am
- krazykiwi
  
  That is nauseating. I’m lost for words, and that’s rare.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:49am
  - Swifty
    
    That’s a piss-take, surely.
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:59am
    - krazykiwi
      
      I re-read it, plus the comments. I must be satire. No author could truly ‘believe’ that post content.
      
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      January 25, 2023 10:39am
      - Taieri
        
        I don’t think it’s satire…
        
        This is what they say about themselves:
        
        “As a small collective of horizontally integrated online influencers from a variety of fields, we are privately owned and 100% independent. Our mission and operations are guided by a proprietary democratic process and the Sunshine Initiative founding document.
        
        Team Sunshine was assembled by a generous philanthropist concerned with the increasing attacks against democracy, science, and even decency itself. Its task: to strategically raise and direct global emotional IQ in key regions and development phases.”
        
        https://iqfy.com/about/
        
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        January 25, 2023 11:02am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Who wrote that article ? Surely that’s gotta be satire.
    I actually thought it was quite funny.
    “Why didn’t the unvaccinated tell us the problems with the vaccine ?- (weep slobber blubber) ” Hilarious.
    Because when any of us who were unvaccinated warned others, we were ridiculed, separated & maligned – and I wear that as a badge of honour.
    
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    January 25, 2023 10:12am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Clever clickbait I’m guessing. Clearly it’s nonsensical and clearly it will trigger the many millions who saw through this sham. They will send it to others who will read it with the same level of disbelief, then it goes viral. The site traffic numbers makes them appealing to advertisers.
      
      I can’t prove any of that, but it’s the only thing the logical part of my brain can come up with to attempt to explain it.
      The Babylon Bee would be proud of it.
      
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      January 25, 2023 11:42am
I remember when

Philip Duncan, Weather Watch head analyst, we have just come out of a five year drought, especially in the North Island.
In 2022 rainfall returned to normal, in some cases more than normal.
Pacific water temperatures are below normal.
The remnants of tropical cyclones are not unusual as we usually get one every year or two.

Well that’s not going to catch anyone’s attention.
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January 25, 2023 9:22am
I remember when

Transport cost blow-out: Minister Wood.
In 2020 it was announced that two additional train stations would be added between Papakura and Pukekohe.
The cost was estimated to be $247 million.
in 2023 a new station Durie West has been added to the plan.
The cost has increased to $495 million.
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January 25, 2023 9:28am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Do you mean Drury West?
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:52am
- NothingLeft
  
  Just incredible.
  
  I was told that cost of road maintenance has recently increased 50% due to regulations around road cones. I bet that is resulting in more deaths (due to worse roads caused by unaffordability and poor maintenance) than it saves.
  
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  January 25, 2023 1:01pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Fauci.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qbRB6t1KD0Q
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January 25, 2023 9:53am
Surely Knott

Disgusting article in E-Tangata – Chris Finlayson calls people opposing co-governance the “KKK brigade” and “sour right” racists and says there’s nothing to worry about, it’s not co-government and then suggests lets hand over decision making control because government’s not working.

Excerpt

“Co-governance” has become a term that people don’t understand. They think it means co-government.

People who are frightened by co-governance think they’ll be locked out of access to our natural resources, for example. When what it really means is that involving iwi in a myriad of decisions can actually result in a better country.

(Well it is more than involving them in the discussion. Tribal appointed leaders will have half the votes no? )

The people I call “the KKK brigade” are out there. They dream of a world that never was, and never could be. They are the people — and these words aren’t mine but are taken from a former British foreign secretary — that you can call the “sour right”. They don’t really understand tangata whenua. They don’t like change.

(The KKK brigade!!! FFS. So what is the change being proposed then exactly. Oh wait you don’t need to know you’re just a sour racist)

There are always going to be people like that, and you have to be reasonably charitable towards them for a while — and then just ignore them and get on with things.

(Ignore them like we did when we overrode the bill of rights and force vaccinated everyone and refused to discuss it or talk with protestors. )

A decade of my life was spent on Treaty settlements. I think many people would be a lot more sympathetic toward the notion of co-governance if they learned the things that I was able to learn as a public official in that role.

Once you’ve read the factual concessions by the Crown, read the apologies, you begin to realise the wrongs that have been committed. You begin to get a good understanding of the facts.

(But we are not talking about Treaty settlements. Many people agree with Treaty settlements in the courts but are concerned about this new and major extension called co-governance.)

The Crown promised to protect “the unqualified exercise of . . . [Māori] chieftainship over their lands, villages and . . . treasures”.

But it not only failed to perform that obligation — it went out of its way to breach it. We must acknowledge that failure and that breach, and remain committed to putting things right.

My perspective on how to put things right is fundamentally a centre-right one. It asks the question: Why does the government think it knows best? The government makes heaps of mistakes. I was in there for years. I saw; I know. So, I don’t think that government has all the answers, and I agree with Ronald Reagan that, so often, government is the problem.

(Co-governance is not small government and personal liberty ala Ronald Reagan. Co-governance is an ngo where half of the people are appointed by racial tribal groups (not elected, not voted) who will have control over the public assets that are essential to all people.).

If you apply this to the history of our land, the question becomes: Why should the state be the one to control everything? Why can’t there be principles of sharing power?

(We are already sharing power. There are Maori in leadership roles in every major party including having a party specifically devoted to Maori. “The state” is the democratically elected govt.).

I think that “Treaty partnership” may, in fact, be a better term for the concept of co-governance. Because it reflects the reality that there are longstanding historical links that tangata whenua have with our natural resources.

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The idea that power can be shared scares some people. Whereas, my attitude is, if central government has failed in so many areas, which it has, and if there are different ways of looking at issues that involve bringing iwi into decision-making, or handing over decision-making, then let’s give it a go.”

( HANDING OVER DECISION MAKING is hugely different to involving a group in decision making of assets that belong to all people.)

(And that is the essential bit of the article. Co-governance is HANDING OVER DECISION MAKING. And if you don’t like it you’re the KKK Brigade. )

(Personally as a mother of 2 Maori teens I don’t like co-governance. And if we did have Maori appointed to positions of power they should be elected, put their views forwards and then a vote by ballot at your local school. Voting is how the Sami people of Northern Europe appoint their representatives. Which other nation gives control of all water and assets to an ethnic group by tribal appointment?!?!)

https://e-tangata.co.nz/nzoa-pijf/chris-finlayson-co-governance-should-be-embraced-not-feared/
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January 25, 2023 9:54am
- krazykiwi
  
  Finlayson continues to exhibit divisive behaviour. Further, he was Attorney-General and Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations, two roles that should have been mutually exclusive, and he undoubtedly knew this at the time. National endorsed all this.
  
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  January 25, 2023 10:55am
- Nickc2
  
  Apply your interpretation of how co-governance should have been applied to 3/5Waters Legislation and tell me how theft of other people’s property and gifting it to Maori Elites fits with your definition.
  If 3/5Waters Legislation (now enacted) is the forerunner to co-governance, I will oppose it with every means at my disposal.
  If you’ve ever been in business Surely Knott, you will know never to trust anyone. That includes all Political parties including Maori in this country.
  PS: Would co-governance have saved all those NZ Businesses the current Govt put out of business in the name of Covid?
  
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  January 25, 2023 11:30am
  - Surely Knott
    
    I’m not sure my post was clear then. I also oppose co-governance . Further I’m p**d off at being referred to as the kkk brigade.
    
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    January 25, 2023 5:22pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Can a reformed National perhaps nudge him to head to the Maori Party instead?
  
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  January 25, 2023 8:53pm
Swifty

Labour down to 27.5% in latest Roy Morgan.

National/ACT up to a combined 49.5% and on track for a 65/120 seat majority.

https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/9152-nz-national-voting-intention-december-2022

I am pleased that more and more New Zealanders are waking up to the fact that Labour have inflicted great damage on our country with their incoherent law-making and indeed have no answers to our current problems.
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January 25, 2023 9:54am
- nathie
  
  And here is proof of the real reason why PM Ardern stepped down.
  
  Declining polls affecting her international public image.
  
  So nothing to do with misogyny as per Helen Clark’s attempts to stir up her bleating flock of left-wing stirrers, baaing in unison!
  
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  January 25, 2023 10:06am
  - nathie
    
    Oh dear I didn’t prefix H1’s name with “disgraced”*, as per MSM standard operating procedures when describing right-wing politicians.
    
    *Pledgecard, paintergate, Speedgate, leaking to the MSM to undermine public servants … you name it she did it!
    
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    January 25, 2023 10:14am
- krazykiwi
  
  Look at that stoic Labour support from women 50+ years – 39.5%. Compared to men in the same bracket – 19.0%.
  
  What will those poor, Jacindamaniac women do now?
  
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  January 25, 2023 10:49am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    What will those poor, Jacindamaniac women do now
    
    Many will vote Green.
    
    There’s no way in the World that any of the Jacinda-fans that I know (most of my friends) will ever vote Nats or Act.
    
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    January 25, 2023 10:58am
    - Swifty
      
      Yes, when Labour is weak the Greens are strong and vice versa.
      
      Same with National and ACT.
      
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      January 25, 2023 11:09am
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Yep they will vote Labour, Green and Maori party. These are the parties that the academics and media on LSD support.
      
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      January 25, 2023 8:56pm
- Nickc2
  
  Labour down to 27.5% in latest Roy Morgan
  That high? The poll must have been rigged eh?
  
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  January 25, 2023 11:33am
- NothingLeft
  
  Little changed from december apart from a slight shift from Nat to Act and Green to Lab
  https://mobile.twitter.com/TheZeitgeistNZ/status/1617762100948144128/photo/1
  
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  January 25, 2023 1:04pm
nathie

So no “fallout” for TV1’s Breakfast Show today for their portrayal yesterday of misandry, promoting gun violence and the shooting of a male politician that happened to be a former US President?

If the NZ MSM and commentators were left-wing hypocrites as usual by turning a blind eye to it with their double-standards, does anyone know if the international media covered it?
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January 25, 2023 9:58am
- Ghost
  
  Have we got to the point where we are so anal that shooting a little toy with a toy gun is now an offence? Sure there is the argument that it was a Trump doll, looked more like a troll doll.
  
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  January 25, 2023 10:17am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Not the point, if the toy was Ardern it would be a huge betrayal, I would have thought what they did is a sackable offence no matter what people think of Trump
    
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    January 25, 2023 10:38am
    - Ghost
      
      It wasn’t an jacinda doll, it was a bit of fun, lighten up, you’re sounding like a forever offended leftie.
      
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      January 25, 2023 10:47am
      - kevn
        
        @Ghost… It did come over as quite puerile behaviour from prime time’ish TV adult ‘hosts’.
        Party trick/fun for TDS folks maybe but on TV… no.
        
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        January 25, 2023 10:59am
      - Ghost
        
        Under Trump USA TV hosts were doing far far worse on TV and online. Heck in the USA you can get Biden gun targets.
        
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        January 25, 2023 11:11am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        No, if it was a Cindy doll there would be hell to pay, i am sick of this rotten style the media have taken
        
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        January 25, 2023 11:57am
    - jon
      
      Sackable for sure, however TV One would never sack their poster boy, Matty.
      
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      January 25, 2023 5:39pm
  - Inandout
    
    Ghost, the term ‘anal’ in this context may be construed as homophobic.
    
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    January 25, 2023 10:42am
    - Ghost
      
      Sure, if that’s where your mind goes
      
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      January 25, 2023 10:55am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Bwhahahahahahaha
      
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      January 25, 2023 1:50pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Explain to me how it is funny for Adults to be playing with Toy guns shooting at an image/model of a politician.
    
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    January 25, 2023 11:02am
    - Ghost
      
      My physio got a new gun a few months ago took it outside and was shooting toys up, she loved it. You might not find it funny, doesn’t mean others won’t. I don’t find Guy Williams funny, weirdly some people do.
      
      What’s worse maggy, shooting a troll like Trump doll with a plastic toy gun or burning an effigy of the pm?
      
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      January 25, 2023 11:07am
      - Swifty
        
        I think you’re missing a major point here.
        
        This was done by employees of the taxpayer-funded, state-owned national broadcaster, while at work, on their employers premises.
        
        Live to the nation.
        
        By doing so they gave the finger to TVNZ’s obligations around professionalism and impartiality.
        
        There’s no question in my mind that their mindless antics have sullied TVNZ’s reputation.
        
        This is in stark contrast to what private citizens might do in their private lives and in their own time.
        
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        January 25, 2023 11:48am
      - Ghost
        
        Well the good news for those who got their knickers in a twist over this is they’ve apologised
        
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/tvnz-breakfast-hosts-shooting-trump-doll-sparks-outrage-network-apologises/U2LDB5IQ45AFHP72FFWFDTFLWY/
        
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        January 25, 2023 1:11pm
      - graham
        
        From your link, Ghost:
        
        “We apologise if this segment upset any of our viewers.”
        
        In other words, “we still think it was funny as hell, but hey if you got upset we apologise (only because we got called out over it though)”.
        
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        January 25, 2023 1:28pm
      - Ghost
        
        So true, they should have included plans in the apology for the delicate ones to build a safe space
        
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        January 25, 2023 1:34pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  That was so childish and stupid, but hey, it is the children on play school TV1.
  
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  January 25, 2023 10:44am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    https://twitter.com/antihobbes/status/1617755944527724544
    
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    January 25, 2023 10:50am
  - Ghost
    
    Yeah, but what’s next, arrest, fire and prosecute people for burning and hanging effigies of politicians here?
    
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    January 25, 2023 10:57am
- surfing
  
  So it is ok to perform a joke execution of Trump, but, not to criticise Ardern?
  
  Imagine if it was an Ardern doll he was shooting!
  
  I’m no fan of Trump at all (although his economic policies were good), nor Ardern, but this new style of political comment is appalling.
  
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  January 25, 2023 2:14pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    I remember 40 years back it was popular to burn effigies of Muldoon on Guy Fawkes night.
    
    Nothing has changed in the confronting discourtesy of political discourse other than the volume of whining from tedious snowflakes feigning offence.
    
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    January 25, 2023 5:44pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.
https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/its-just-so-clear-luxon-is-100-for-continuing-with-co-governance/
Looks like out of the frying pan, into the fire.
https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Luxon-and-co-governance-blog-25-1-23.pdf
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January 25, 2023 10:01am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  One New Zealand Foundation Inc on January 25, 2023 at 11:45 am
  What we must remembe, all the “Pakeha” politicians are in government to boost their egos, place Honourable before their names and grab the pay packets that goes with the “Job”, while the Maori politicians are in government to take over New Zealand.
  
  Until we wake up to this, our “Pakeha” politicians will just go with the flow.
  
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  January 25, 2023 12:00pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Rodney Hide nails his colour to the mast…

I am a single-issue voter. I will vote for anyone or any party promising a full inquiry into the safety of the covid-19 vaccine and the treatment of the vaxxed injured. I don’t care about their other policies.

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/rodney-hide
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January 25, 2023 10:15am
- Surely Knott
  
  Rodney Hide has been a hero through this. I 100% agree with him on this. Bassett Brash & Hide has the best writing on the internet and deserves a wider audience.
  
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  January 25, 2023 11:22am
  - Jack5
    
    But will Covid be the big issue at the election?
    
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    January 25, 2023 11:27am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Jack5 – it will almost certainly be up there, this has a long way to go before it fully plays out. The evidence is starting to stream out more and more rapidly. The media can only ignore it for so long.
      
      Tipping point on the way.
      
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      January 25, 2023 11:46am
  - Ian Boag
    
    Trouble is that Rodney has some moderately serious baggage that would bite him on the bum if he decided to re-enter politics.
    
    Just saying …
    
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    January 25, 2023 5:50pm
    - Swifty
      
      That’s right Ian.
      
      Rodney would be relentlessly abused, attacked, insulted, defamed and pilloried by the left for things in his past.
      
      Meanwhile Shane Te Pou is a media and leftie darling and who (self-admittedly) committed sins far, far worse but has been rehabilitated by the same people who would abuse Rodney.
      
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      January 25, 2023 6:25pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        Rodney would be relentlessly abused, attacked, insulted, defamed and pilloried
        
        Regrettably (?) he has – in his career – provided ammo for those who might to do some of this ….
        
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        January 25, 2023 8:05pm
Jack5

Where else will Labour-loving Radio NZ go as it deflects blame for soaring inflation away from the Robertson-Orr insane printing of billions and billions of dollars?

And let’s not count some lucky find of a branch of the old Social Credit party.

Kiwibank has been accused of close ties with Orr’s Reserve Bank of NZ through the appointment to the RBNZ board of Rodger Finlay, who has links with Kiwibank.

Katherine Ryan on her morning programme today, had aboard an economist from Kiwibank, and there was talk and talk about the effects of international inflation, world commodity prices, and how “world inflation” is likely to fall by next year.

Ryan seemed disappointed, when, talking later with RNZ’s Australian correspondent, she asked what was the Australian Reserve Bank’s cash rate. Damn! It was lower than NZ’s.

Inflation blame is a big election-year assignment for Labour’s media machine of State TV, State radio, and subsidised newspapers.

Finlay, Kiwibank and RBNZ:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/129030675/criticism-after-reserve-bank-board-appointee-allowed-to-keep-kiwibank-related-role
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January 25, 2023 10:21am
- Jack5
  
  Stuff, too, trots out a Kiwibank economist, who is reported as saying “there were some positive signs” about inflation.
  
  The Labour media monopoly in its attempt to hypnotise voters over inflation will rely on this small State bank
  
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  January 25, 2023 11:49am
TT500

oes this mean we can talk to our

Does this mean we can talk to
our neighbours again ?
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January 25, 2023 10:29am
Maggie Pie

My partner’s mum was just saying…. “She can’t understand all these Asian-on-Asian shootings that have occurred. Historically, different Asian cultures have gotten along so well”
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January 25, 2023 10:39am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Meme on FB.
“Unvaxed Sperm, $3500 a load”
This could be a very true thing with the vaccines that kill.
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January 25, 2023 10:40am
- Maggie Pie
  
  My partner is unvaxxed. He had an appointment at the Sperm-Bank this arvo. But he just phoned them to say he couldn’t come.
  
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  January 25, 2023 11:18am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    I’m sure you could be more helpful than that, Maggie.
    
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    January 25, 2023 11:38am
  - kowtow
    
    Ah so , similar to the bad day a London sperm clinic had .
    
    One man came early , another missed the Tube and yet another came on the bus.
    
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    January 25, 2023 6:49pm
Biscuit

Fifty years ago this week since Gareth Edwards finished off the movement in the Barbarians vs All Blacks game at Cardiff Arms Park that is remembered as ‘The Greatest Try Ever Scored’…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tvvw-WpBBg

Fascinating looking at that clip, no??
• Superb commentary from Cliff Morgan
• An All Blacks jersey without [I’ll self-censor, Mod!) ads on them
• High tackles that would have modern day Television Match Officials wheeling out guillotines

[If I may be (im)modest, I do reckon that my score in the 1968 Dover vs Richborough Inter House Final at Boarding School was better but, sadly, there were no TV cameras about and my sensational game-winning effort – I fell on the ball after the opposition player I tackled dropped it over his own line – was (cruelly) described, even by my team mates, sniff, as ‘a f*cking fluke’…]
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January 25, 2023 10:58am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Man there are some hard tackles there, and high.
  Things that could get you banned from Rugby!
  Back when men were men. They did not worry about their hairdos.
  
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  January 25, 2023 11:34am
  - kevn
    
    @SteveO… At my barber the other day for #2 all over, aka the summer cut and asked where all the young guys get their designer haircuts inspiration from. League players he said.
    
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    January 25, 2023 11:42am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      League players indeed! All pretty boys, including Union.
      The rule changes over the years have turned League and Union players into ‘nancys’
      Slightest thing close to the rules and pheep the Ref’s whistle goes.
      I have given up watching both codes for about 5 years – it just ain’t exciting anymore, unless you watch how good the Ref is playing…….
      
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      January 25, 2023 3:17pm
  - Biscuit
    
    Indeed, Steve, and I see World Rugby is now mandating that tackles can’t be above the WAIST…
    
    Mind, not everything back in those days was ‘manly’. Have a look at this clip (it’s in the first 25 seconds or so) of a 1960s All Black Haka:
    
    https://youtu.be/R9YWERR196M
    
    You’d be frightened out of your wits facing THAT, no?
    
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    January 25, 2023 12:09pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Strange. Mod must have removed my comment, grab em by the ……
      Anyway, look at the haircuts. Scuffy as.
      
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      January 25, 2023 3:27pm
- Individual Responsibility
  
  Cheers Biscuit – I needed that to remind me how thrilling good old rugby used to be.
  
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  January 25, 2023 4:48pm
Gravelroad

Update on yesterday’s post about the TV1 breakfast crew’s stunt of shooting a Trump figure with a salt gun.
My Twitter expert adviser here says there has been considerable push back due to the issue of violence and abuse to and of politicians etc.
Now TV1 has censored who can see their tweets by restricting access to their Twitter account. Only confirmed followers allowed.
Oh dear, how sad, never mind…….
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January 25, 2023 11:08am
- Inandout
  
  Gravel, too late now as most of us have seen it and archived.
  
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  January 25, 2023 11:11am
- Biscuit
  
  If it happened as I have heard, gravelroad, what apology did ‘the team’ front with on air this a.m.?
  
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  January 25, 2023 11:11am
  - kevn
    
    @biscuit… The childish TV hosts just showed/confirmed their colours. They were just all under peer pressure. Weak characters they are.
    Internet will remind them over time.
    
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    January 25, 2023 11:46am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Plenty available from all sources on the google machine. TV1 will not be able to stop it. It is also on FB. Bad luck TV1. Now hand out the punishment to the children.
  
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  January 25, 2023 11:37am
- NZer In Exile
  
  Imagine if that had been an effigy of a female lefty leader of NZ they were shooting at. There would have been sackings and tearful apologies demanded.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:07pm
Maggie Pie

I actually did a short stint once as a Magician’s Assistant.
Video slomos have pretty much killed magic shows.

https://twitter.com/TheFigen_/status/1617553415382659073
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January 25, 2023 11:48am
- Ghost
  
  Was there when you went to dinner and made your partner’s wallet disappear
  
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  January 25, 2023 11:49am
  - kevn
    
    Wallet contents?
    
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    January 25, 2023 12:12pm
- Biscuit
  
  Mmmm, magicians’ assistants’ costume are almost as sexy as modern-day females’ Tennis costumes…
  
  [I’ll go self-ban myself for an hour, Mod. Disgraceful sexism, I know. Me Bad. But strangely aroused…]
  
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  January 25, 2023 12:12pm
- mogg
  
  I always wanted to be a fireman,
  I took the exams, but I slipped up on me arson.
  
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  January 25, 2023 3:48pm
ClanMcleod

Muriel Numan’s post on the BFD is the most honest appraisal of Ardern’s “leadership” you are ever going to read.

The lockdowns she imposed were the harshest in the world and the cruelty she displayed towards fellow New Zealanders – including those trapped overseas who were prevented from coming home – was unprecedented.

She lied about mandates – promising not to make vaccines compulsory before the 2020 election, only to impose them once elected, forcing people out of jobs and turning the unvaccinated into second-class citizens. She then exacerbated her wrongdoing by misleading the public about the reasoning.

That’s only a taste of an honest and damning description of the phenomenal damage Ardern wrought on this country. It’s an outstanding read.

https://thebfd.co.nz/2023/01/25/an-iron-fist-in-a-velvet-glove/?
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January 25, 2023 11:51am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Dr Muriel Newman has a link to Jaspinda’s speech in Hungary 2009.
  I saw that speech in 2009. That was my first warning – thinking she will be trouble in a position of power. Obvious the rabid lefties saw it and thrived on it, then voted her in 8 years later.
  Unbelievable, considering the last Labour mess left by Clark and Cullen.
  
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  January 25, 2023 12:32pm
Chris Nisbet

Just saw a headline on the Herald about some bloke who tried to go plastic free for a day. Shows him sitting on a tube train or suchlike.
That’s a fail right there. I’d bet the farm that plastic was involved in the making of that carriage.
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January 25, 2023 11:57am
- tf78
  
  Did he have a cellphone – another BIG fail.
  
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  January 25, 2023 4:25pm
slightlyrighty

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/jacinda-ardern-makes-one-final-journey-as-pm-chris-hipkins-carmel-sepuloni-prepare-for-first-day-in-the-job/

One further round of media sycophancy as Jacinda leaves.

Its actually quite sickening. The Soundtrack, The applause. This is politics by the Hallmark Channel.

Walking through an adoring throng while soft, emotive music plays? Give me strength! You would never have seen this from Helen, and all John Key got from the Media was a polite version of “Don’t let the door hit you on the way out….”
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January 25, 2023 12:05pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Makes me want to get a salt gun and shoot a Jaspinda doll.
  
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  January 25, 2023 12:18pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Get ready for a knock on the door by the thought police. They’ll want to “check your thinking”.
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:11pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

White supremacy? Listen to this girl’s reply.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Fb4DIzERc1Q
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January 25, 2023 12:14pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  That girl deserves a medal.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:17pm
ClanMcleod

Scott Adams, creator of the cartoon Dilbert, “apologised” publicly for his attacks on the “anti vaxxers” and his unwavering support for the vaccines and the “science” which he held up until recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L2ugPM2pbQ

It’s the most bitter apology you will ever hear, not a shred of sincerity in it. El gato malo does the most outstanding job analysing it.

Just a couple of the key points here, do read the whole article, it is very much worth it.

i suspect it’s why so many “smart people” are struggling to adapt to the world post panicpalooza.

this is bitter pill to take.

“i was too afraid to buck peer pressure” feels like weakness.

rational people can admit they were wrong. but admitting you chickened out and surged with the sheep when you self identify as a “free thinker” is more fundamental.

it poses a more intrinsic threat to self image and self-regard.

it’s a form of narcissistic blow to the idea that you are self-governing. it makes you wonder if you can trust yourself.

and it makes you feel like a coward, the admission of which is very hard. being wrong is just a failure of an idea.

being scared stupid feels like a personal failing.

it’s why so few want to face it especially if they acted badly, treated others poorly, engaged in or advocated their mistreatment, or hectored and harangued others out of misbegotten terror tyranny.

This next bit is I believe a direct reference to Scott Adams.

i suspect most people are going to be OK, but the amount of copium going around in the “intellectual” class is jarring.

“i was wrong because i was smart and brave and the people who wound up right were lucky and craven” is the most self-defeating form of rationalization.

it’s not only the coward claiming they were the lion but calling the actual lions simps.

mostly, i suspect they are not mad about being wrong and endlessly touchy because some others were right.

mostly, i suspect they are mad at themselves because deep down in the scratchy dark dissonance of their subconscious, they know that they wound up on the team they did not want to and they do not like this about themselves.

and that one hurts.

“i trusted brilliant experts and lost and you got lucky because you think all government is bad” seems to be on the lips of half of the alleged internet intellignica just now.

Most people don’t fit this category, most were manipulated by the biggest and most sophisticated propaganda campaign in history. Nothing wrong with admitting such and moving on with a firm commitment to never let anything like it happen again.

i have all the sympathy in the world for those who are changing their minds and saying “i was wrong” and “i panicked” and “i failed the milgram and asch and stanford experiments.”

that shows capacity to grow and it’s a demanding road.

and this was a seriously hard test with a low pass rate.

the terrible truths of these experiments in human compliance and propensity to be beastly stand testament to the nature of the problem.

milgram showed us how people will harm people if pressured by authority

asch showed us that people will ignore their own senses and perceptions when pressured by peer group

stanford showed us how easily humans can be egged into abuse of power

most subjects fail ALL these tests.

passing all 3 at once is no mean feat.

it’s important to forgive and to allow those who want to change to change. it should be welcomed.

But there are the bitter and twisted of this world the milkeys, the Brian McDonalds.

but those who call their cowardice “unluck” have learned inapposite lessons.

they know they got it wrong, but are determined not to delve too deeply into “why?”
it becomes an extended exercise in self-justification/self-delusion.

Nailed it.

https://substack.com/app-link/post?publication_id=323914&post_id=98513217
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January 25, 2023 12:25pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The happiest people are the unvaccinated, and they did not die. Or something.
  He is right.
  
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  January 25, 2023 12:38pm
  - Taieri
    
    The happiest people are the unvaccinated
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    Some vaccinated people are also very happy. I’m one of them.
    
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    January 25, 2023 2:16pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Science has two components: 1. The hypothesis, 2. The evidence.
  
  Covid science failed dismally to evaluate the evidence honestly and impartially. That obligation was sacrificed to the political need to carry the popular support for the proposed responses. The blame for that lands squarely on journalists and politicians.
  
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  January 25, 2023 12:39pm
  - Taieri
    
    Science has two components: 1. The hypothesis, 2. The evidence.
    ————-
    
    Three. There’s also the process.
    
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    January 25, 2023 2:18pm
    - cmm
      
      Mainly the process.
      
      Question everything
      Nothing is settled
      Test the hypothesis
      Follow the evidence.
      Rinse and repeat forever.
      
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      January 25, 2023 3:57pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Questioning ‘everything’ opens up a world of hurt where the claims of flat-Earthers, homeopaths, the religiously deluded and every other form of crank need to be taken seriously before being dismissed.
        
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        January 25, 2023 5:23pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        “Nothing is settled”
        “Test the hypothesis”
        
        The climate emergency hypothesis has been tested and found to be a crock. Those running with the BS artists refuse to listen.
        
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        January 25, 2023 9:19pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  [Mod – debate what he has said, don’t make personal attacks]
  
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  January 25, 2023 5:19pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    If Clan Mclod takes potshots at other commenters –
    
    But there are the bitter and twisted of this world the milkeys, the
    
    – he should be able to receive return fire.
    Scott Adams is a cartoonist, and his personal political views are indeed cartoonish. Whoever ‘El gato malo’ might be, he (I assume he identifies as a male) writes as if he has any even more sever derangement than Adams.
    
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    January 25, 2023 6:45pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Milkey – my description of you is based on what you write. It is the impression you give with your relentless trolling. I would love it if you actually engaged in rational debate but I don’t recall ever seeing that from you? Maybe I missed it once, but all you ever do is smear and (try to) ridicule. You never respond to the evidence presented other than ad hominem and rancid dismissal without any evidence to support your position.
      
      I am presuming that you and Brian Mac are bitter and twisted because that is what you sound like. If you aren’t then show it.
      As for el gato malo, I have no idea who they are, but their writing and understanding of science, data and statistics indicates a very well educated person with a deep knowledge of all aspects of virology and statistical analysis. But you write them off as having “sever (sic) derangement.”
      
      If you are going to make a statement like that then qualify it. As I just did for calling you bitter and twisted. You are welcome to disagree and discuss, but you never do.
      
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      January 25, 2023 9:44pm
Maggie Pie

O.M.G!

Just heard that other pair of ’empty-suits’ Kelvin Davis and Andrew Little on 1ZB, saying how much they will miss Jacinda but are so looking forward to working with new Prime Minster Chris Hipkins.

Of course they are! Where else would clowns like that get a job paying 250k a year?
SHEESH!!
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January 25, 2023 12:32pm
kevn

@Maggie… Special K and do-little. I wouldn’t have the stomach to listen.
Let’s see where hipkins puts them.
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January 25, 2023 12:42pm
spanish_tudor

From Twitter:

“Overheard in a cafe earlier today: men sobbing with joy that they were allowed to say ‘New Zealand’ again.”
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January 25, 2023 12:52pm
Ghost

A prominent political figure has appeared in court on charges relating to alleged sexual assault in the 1990s, including touching the genitals of an underage boy

https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/auckland-top-stories/300791764/prominent-political-figure-in-court-on-historical-sexual-assault-charges-including-against-underage-boy
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January 25, 2023 1:02pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  ‘not a current MP’
  
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  January 25, 2023 5:25pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Pfizer – Davos.
https://twitter.com/ozraeliavi/status/1615768882014310400?
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January 25, 2023 1:22pm
- kevn
  
  @SteveO… Surprised he was out with no bodyguard. Must think he is immune to everything as well as prosecution.
  
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  January 25, 2023 3:07pm
Yvette

Cranmer’s Subtrack –
Luxon talks co-governance at Rātana Pā
The National Party leader kicked off the political year with a speech at Rātana Pā that sketched out National’s approach to the controversial topic of co-governance.

But one commenter says –

Thank you for once again for highlighting the corruption of co – governance of our natural assets which both Luxon and Hipkins support.
I was totally disgusted with Luxon’s interview on TV3 this morning on this very subject.

Once again he noted how wonderful the co – governance of the Waikato river was run for the benefit of all.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
National are well aware it is a total disaster.

When Auckland requested an increase in water for their citizens the militant, racist Tuku Morgan publicly stated “ that you will have to come through me.”
[Morgan is now Chair-elect for the Auckland Northland “3 Waters” Regional Entity – outside his tribal region?]

How can Luxon say, with a straight face that this type of co – governance is good for our rivers, lakes, DoC land and National Parks ?

The example Cranmer has highlighted is soon to be replicated in the Fiordland National Park.
I have no doubt it will result in the destruction of taxpayer funded huts and a toll at the entrance to the Homer tunnel.

The latest Roy Morgan poll out last night should be compulsory reading by the National Party.
Their support has dropped , while ACT has increased to a 12 month record of 14.5%.
ACT are eating National’s lunch in the polls due to their support of co – governance of our natural resources.
It will be the pivotal issue in the upcoming election as the polls confirm.
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January 25, 2023 1:24pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Go back and look two polls back, the Nats fluctuate every time on Morgan, he is still trying to win over the middle , he is being diplomatic, who cares about the maintenance of a water body , its ownership of our services and separatist services we should be applauded him over , he is talking about something that is done and dusted
  
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  January 25, 2023 1:55pm
Yvette

And amongst everything said and written yesterday, there is this –

“Jacinda’s had a very strong relationship with Māori … [her departure] is a huge loss for Māoridom because she was an ally in public, but also in the backrooms.”
– Former Labour chief of staff Matt McCarten
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/ratana
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January 25, 2023 1:48pm
- Swifty
  
  And what ACTUAL RESULTS has she achieved over five years for Maori, did McCarten say?
  
  None of course, cause there haven’t been any.
  
  But hundreds and hundreds of millions doled out to Maori elites, advisors, working group members, ‘community leaders’ and various other service providers and grifters over the last five years though.
  
  Yep, they’ll be missing Ardern already.
  
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  January 25, 2023 2:02pm
  - Blog-aholic
    
    The $ is what he was talking about.
    
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    January 25, 2023 2:10pm
  - Taieri
    
    And what ACTUAL RESULTS has she achieved over five years for Maori
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    Exactly the same what she’s achieved for non-Maori.
    Sweet FA.
    
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    January 25, 2023 2:20pm
- Nickc2
  
  Someone must have slipped a few hundy into Matt McCarten’s back pocket for him to say that.
  Once a Trade Union hack, always a Trade Union hack.
  BTW, does anyone know Chipmonk’s allegiances to the Trade Union movement? Yes, I know the Labour party is the political wing of said outfit but sometimes there are deeply entrenched philosophies involved with Labour leaders.
  
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  January 25, 2023 2:19pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  It appears she has a strong relationship with racial separatists.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:22pm
Swifty

Nope, no consequences whatsoever for the TVNZ morons for yesterday’s disgrace:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/tvnz-breakfast-hosts-shooting-trump-doll-sparks-outrage-network-apologises/U2LDB5IQ45AFHP72FFWFDTFLWY/

Carry on. Nothing to see here.
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January 25, 2023 1:58pm
- Nickc2
  
  That looks like a photocopied apology to me. That place probably has filing cabinets full of the damned things. For a public broadcaster on the taxpayer’s coin, it’s a fucking disgrace.
  I’m afraid I would have told all of them to reapply for their jobs once I knew whose dumb idea it was.
  
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  January 25, 2023 2:09pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Disappointed with Chris Chang. He is one of the most un-woke of the woke children.
  He does not Maorify much, same with Daniel Faitaua.
  
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  January 25, 2023 3:51pm
graham

So the network “apologises”, not the hosts.

I put “apologises” in quotes because it’s a pretty lame non-apology – “We apologise if this segment upset any of our viewers.” – accompanied by the usual mealy-mouthed weasel-words.

“… it was intended to be a fun segment … maybe we should have given “further consideration” … it was intended to be a light-hearted look …”

As so often happens, David Seymour nails it succinctly:

“Trump’s not my favourite politician either, but is this the same TVNZ that’s been complaining about the abuse of politicians for the last week?”
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January 25, 2023 2:11pm
- graham
  
  Meant to be in reply to Swifty …
  
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  January 25, 2023 2:12pm
  - Swifty
    
    Good stuff graham.
    
    The lack of self-awareness from the TVNZ presenters is just astounding.
    
    If they have any integrity they’d offer their resignations.
    
    But they won’t.
    
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    January 25, 2023 6:09pm
- Nickc2
  
  There was a clip of those idiots on TV this morning, all out for a Chinese Nosh. I wonder if that was a reward for their childish prank?
  
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  January 25, 2023 2:31pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  TVNZ should adopt the Fox News ‘Tucker Carlson defence’ – no one takes this show seriously enough to care what the hosts do or say.
  
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  January 25, 2023 5:37pm
  - Swifty
    
    Computer says no.
    
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2022/12/15/fox-news-dominates-yearly-cable-ratings-for-seventh-consecutive-year/?sh=1a91586844dc
    
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    January 25, 2023 6:06pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Only repeating what the Fox News lawyers claimed in court – that no reasonable person could be expected to take their ‘opinion’ shows as factual news coverage.
      Popularity of the product does not equal quality of the product.
      
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      January 25, 2023 6:38pm
      - Swifty
        
        Changing the debate yet again eh Mike?
        
        The old switcheroo.
        
        You said “no one takes this show seriously enough to care what the hosts do or say.”
        
        But clearly they do, and in industry leading numbers, because they’re prepared to pay for it. They are prepared to support it financially.
        
        The people have voted with their wallets.
        
        Just because you hate them doesn’t mean everyone else shares your delusions.
        
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        January 25, 2023 7:04pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    He’s incredibly popular because he’s so often over the target. This is why the loony left hate him (and Trump).
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:24pm
Caine9

Painting Ardern as the tragic victim of horrible people and mysoginy, while possibly true, is ridiculous when you see where the sympathy is coming from.
Funny how the hatred for Margaret Thatcher or Jenny Shipley wasn’t mysoginistic.
Rejoicing after Thatcher’s death was ok, was it?
Social media is far more prevalent that it has been before and vile commentary is directed at everyone in the public eye. Yes it’s grown and Ardern is in the firing line. But yesterday morning Tvnz breakfast all taking shots at Trump dolls with a salt gun. Can you imagine it the outrage if that was an Ardern doll? The state owned media encouraging the shooting of another country’s ex-head of state? Doesn’t matter how despicable he was, this was disgraceful.
Have you seen what Labour supporters say about National and ACT people? Funny how that doesn’t get reported…
The hypocrisy and willfully dishonest and myopic reporting revolts me.
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January 25, 2023 2:31pm
- Swifty
  
  Thatcher and Shipley weren’t real women.
  
  Real women vote left.
  
  So attacks on Thatcher and Shipley were and are just fine.
  
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  January 25, 2023 3:57pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Yep they are pathetic adolescents. Time they learned to code methinks.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:25pm
Maggie Pie

A bestie retweets…..

‘No surprises then that Soph is into UFO’s, Crop Circles and Death Cafes’

https://twitter.com/SophiaTara88/status/1615934233327079425
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January 25, 2023 2:42pm
Warren

No show without punch and all to keep Jacinda in the news.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/clarke-gayfords-touching-tribute-to-jacinda-ardern-as-he-exits-role-as-first-bloke-of-nz/E46YGRSFGBHUNFCTNHZFV3WZBM/
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January 25, 2023 3:00pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  First bloke? Well yeah he was I guess.
  Now to me he is a dropkick with a story to tell about other dropkick friends.
  
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  January 25, 2023 3:57pm
cmm

As South Africa plunges deeper into a hole, the desperation is starting to come out – as well as the unscrupulous who are exploiting the situation in various ways.

One of the biggest drivers for this decline is that it is finally apparent to everyone that the power utility, Eskom, is in terminal decline.

The engineers and management of Eskom have known this for a long time. In 1998 or thereabouts, the Mandela government was told to start building generation but they did not – rather diverting all the funds they could muster into social programmes/voter bribery. As a result, something that could have been averted by action 25, 20, or at a stretch 15 years ago has now crash landed and it is too late to do anything about it.

SA is now seeing load shedding like they have not seen before. The last 6 months of 2022 saw more load shedding that the rest of Eskom’s 100 year history COMBINED. And so far 2023 has been worse. So far this year they have averaged about 8 hours a day with no power. And it’s summer – low power usage with many people on holiday. Many businesses are shutting their doors.

Electricity does not just mean lights and TVs. Most of the cities depend on electricity to pump water to them. Gauteng (the area around Johannesburg) has about 16 million people, almost all of them depending on pumped water. At the higher levels of load shedding the pumps are unable to refill the reservoirs and taps are running dry in some places. If the load shedding gets any worse, there will be some areas of Gauteng which will not get water for days on end.

Food too. South Africa’s most productive lands require irrigation which depends on electricity. This year the maize/grain outputs are expected to be about half of what they normally are. Less food, higher prices, more jobs gone.

Even raising chickens needs power for ventilation as well as processing (chilling etc). Last week 10 million day-old chicks were culled because there was not enough room in the system to add them. Elsewhere 40,000 chickens almost ready for slaughter were lost to heat stress.

If you really want to bring out the feral in people, then take away food and water. WHen that happens things could very easily turn into a race war as Africa always believes whites have stuff (even when they don’t).

Now the “Rainbow Nation” party has run out of booze and people are starting to feel the hangovers.

The Afrikaners have always liked their “sieners” (religiously-inspired prophets), but there has now been a boom in Siener following – particularly one called Siener van Rensberg. Unfortunately his visions need significant translation to be applied in the real world and this has lead to different groups taking different meanings from what he said. What does it really mean when a prophet says something like “I see a red snake eating a black snake and the little grey chickens running under a fence”?

Desperate people are easy to scam. Desperate people have huge hopes and latch on to impossible promises because the horror of reality is too much to think about.

Surely, they hope, something will come and save the day? Maybe micro-nuclear-reactors? Maybe some new solar panel technology? Maybe Elon Musk will remember his South African roots and buy everyone a diesel generator? Maybe God wants everything to burn so a new nation can be built from the ashes?

Simultaneously, policing capability is going down, crime is going up and disaffected people are turning to rioting and “demonstration”. Society is breaking down.

Last week saw at least two political murders (scattered amongst the 500 or so murders each week) as well as a mayor’s mother’s house being torched by “demonstrators” complaining about lack of water deliveries. Yup, couldn’t find where the mayor lives, so firebomb the mother’s house instead.

In some places dams have run dry. There are insufficient water tanker trucks to deliver water to everyone – even if they ran 24/7.

Most people have no savings and are living hand to mouth. Approx 50% are unemployed, over 75% in some areas. Youth unemployment is higher and youth expect more as well as being more hot-headed. Social grants are really not able to make much of a difference. A “social relief grant”, introduced during CV19 is around R350 (NZ$ 32) per month. The child raising allowance is around NZ$ 45 per month and that will often be stretched a long way. Over 50% of SA lives on hand outs of one form or another.

If it was just one thing, then they could pull through. But stress on top of stress on top of stress makes it very hard to see any sort of soft landing.

And then SA really will just be another part of Africa.
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January 25, 2023 3:47pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  [Mod – deleted, trolling, offering zero to the conversation ]
  
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  December 25, 2022 5:30pm
  - zulumonster
    
    I spent 12 months traveling through Africa from north to south in the early 90’s. South Africa was certainly part of Africa, but it was also a different world … in those days at least.
    If you stopped the pedantic trolling and digested the message you may realise there is a major issue for the people of that country … or maybe you just don’t care.
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:04am
- Swifty
  
  If you want to see into New Zealand’s future under the left – here it is.
  
  This is the ultimate destination for Labour’s prescription for New Zealand.
  
  And I mean this honestly and sincerely.
  
  They just cannot help themselves. Their ideology of ‘progressivism’ demands it. Relentless, remorseless meddling, tinkering, pulling of levers, taxing and spending, mad flights of fancy, environmental puritanism, ‘captain’s calls’, at times mindless and demented pursuit of a mythical ‘fairness’, nasty and unrelenting bashing of the very engine room of our wealth creation, private enterprise – all ultimately futile. And what’s more, never ever being honest with themselves or us about the results.
  
  Nirvana will never be achieved. Utopia never obtained.
  
  And so they will never, ever stop. As each new generation arises new holy social justice warriors emerge with their latest hair-brained scheme to achieve heaven on earth (even most of the ideas have in fact been tried before and failed).
  
  And while all this is going on the state just grows and grows. Again, relentless, remorseless until the state is everything and nothing else is left. I say this with confidence because the left have no self-limiting mechanism. Like rust, they never sleep.
  
  When have you ever heard a leftie saying anything remotely approaching “Just this one more thing and then we will stop. One more policy and then we’ll all become conservatives.”
  
  Never.
  
  They can’t say that and never will. If they did it would mean they would have no future purpose to them and they can’t have that.
  
  So on and on it will go until everyone is employed by the state. Capital has flown elsewhere. Talent has escaped. Businesses have fled.
  
  And then, well, see cmm’s piece above.
  
  And all you will hear is endless shouting and screaming of “Capitalism has failed!!!!” and “It’s all bloody (insert enemy du jour here*)’s fault!!”
  
  (*National, Putin, climate change, racists, misogynists, business owners, supermarket duopolies, the banks etc etc)
  
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  January 25, 2023 5:41pm
  - zubrick
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmel_Sepuloni#/media/File:Hipkins_and_Sepuloni_swearing_in.jpg
    
    the world is laughing
    
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    January 25, 2023 8:54pm
- NothingLeft
  
  The inevitable consequence of tribalism, vote-buying socialism and inserting non-egalitarian racial preferences in govt policies. Take note NZ left.
  
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  January 25, 2023 5:53pm
  - Swifty
    
    Exactly right, NothingLeft.
    
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    January 25, 2023 6:10pm
- Random T Person
  
  It’s an unmitigated disaster. I was still there when they started building Medupe and Kusile, and even I knew that if you are unable to maintain and run existing plant, there is no way you’ll be able to maintain and run new plant. Didn’t take a genius.
  
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  January 25, 2023 6:20pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  The veneer of civilisation is very thin. Wreck it and you have bands of vicious lizard people tearing each other apart for resources. Something the current NZ drongo leadership should take to heart.
  
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  January 25, 2023 9:33pm
Surely Knott

RNZ reports, Well known politician in Waitakere Court for Sexual Assault of 2 people including a young boy in 1990’s. Image of the offenders body but his face is blurred. Not a current mp. Political party also suppressed.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/483084/prominent-political-figure-in-court-on-historical-sexual-assault-charges-including-against-underage-boy
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January 25, 2023 3:55pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Not great redaction work on the facial area by RNZ.
  If you put your face to within about 10cm of the image, squint really really hard, you can just make who it might be 🙁
  
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  January 25, 2023 4:43pm
  - kevn
    
    [Mod – this case has name suppression, anyone hinting at who it is or how to work out who it is will get a ban]
    
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    December 25, 2022 5:23pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    [Mod – considering the crime that’s not a nice thing to claim]
    
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    January 25, 2023 4:58pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Joke Mods. It was a joke to Maggie playing games, OK?
      
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      January 25, 2023 5:54pm
Maggy Wassilieff

I wonder if any TV One reporter will bother asking Kieran McAnulty how funny he found the clip of TV personalities shooting toy guns at a political doll.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/mp-kieran-mcanulty-to-stop-holding-mobile-offices-in-his-electorate-due-to-death-threats/
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January 25, 2023 5:02pm
- Swifty
  
  I wonder if anyone at all in our news media will ask Hipkins:
  
  “If the cost of living is now your number one priority – please tell us what priority has it been over the last five goddam years.
  
  Number 27?”
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131063276/prime-minister-chris-hipkins-promises-costofliving-pressures-are-the-number-one-priority
  
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  January 25, 2023 5:58pm
Scooter

Clarke Gayford aka “first bloke” wonders if NZ is becoming a more inclusive society. Maybe it will be now JA is out, she wasn’t very inclusive to the unvacc’d, admitting there will be 2 classes of people. Yip Yip that is what it is.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/clarke-gayfords-touching-tribute-to-jacinda-ardern-as-he-exits-role-as-first-bloke-of-nz/E46YGRSFGBHUNFCTNHZFV3WZBM/
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January 25, 2023 7:23pm
- graham
  
  I’ll take it as a step towards being “more inclusive” when Maori leaders stop talking about “our people”.
  
  We need xyz for our people; our people are hurting because of this Government’s policies; we will hold the Government to account for what they deliver to our people.
  
  It’d be kind of nice if these Maori leaders started thinking about all people.
  
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  January 25, 2023 7:53pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    I know people who live a modern life, are mostly non-Maori and still pull this “our people” shtick. It’s pretentious and it’s pathetic
    
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    January 25, 2023 9:59pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  The only people “included” in Ardern’s NZ are those who worship her and those who obey her without question. She is so “kind and caring.”
  
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  January 25, 2023 10:00pm
DimChappie

Chris Trotter analyses Luxon’s Ratana stance on co-governance and reckons Hipkins should axe Three Waters and re-examine the treaty:

https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2023/01/26/after-ratana/

“Hipkins’ first and most obvious move is to announce that the Three Waters legislation will be repealed, pending a broad and thorough examination of the project’s all-too-obvious political and economic shortcomings. Pushing the pause button on this extraordinarily unpopular project will be good, practical, “bread-and-butter” politics. Were the new prime minister to follow it up with a promise to initiate an equally broad and thorough democratic debate about the moral and practical status of the Tiriti/Treaty in twenty-first century New Zealand, the public response might be even more positive – especially if the right of all schools of historical and constitutional thought to freely contend with one another was guaranteed and by Hipkins’ Government.
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