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Happy World Seagrass Day!
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March 1, 2023 8:02am
G the giant from Dunedin

I see that the wonderful Māori caucus has in its wisdom gift dc$15 mill to Māori only in the floods.

Jackson states this is not special treatment Grrrrr
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March 1, 2023 8:02am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Wait until the Coup becomes total Elite Maori Tyrannical rule. It is happening.
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:40am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Then we have to be careful with our votes
    
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    March 1, 2023 8:43am
    - Bob
      
      be careful with our votes…….
      BE VERY CAREFULL!…this coming election is about the FUTURE OF DEMOCRACY IN NZ.
      
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      March 1, 2023 12:05pm
      - Nickc2
        
        Yep, make the most of the next election, it may well be the last if Labour and it’s Maori Caucus get their way.
        
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        March 1, 2023 12:31pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Let me guess, you want us all to vote for a party not in parliament and never will get in?
        
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        March 1, 2023 2:39pm
  - Mike
    
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    I don’t think it is healthy to be so fearful, Steve.
    
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    March 1, 2023 8:47am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I don’t fear anything. I just see our wonderful Country being destroyed. Democracy becoming Tyranny.
      
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      March 1, 2023 9:02am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Why do you lefties think we are bloody fearful all the time. It’s the destruction what this great country was that pisses us off, most Māori I talk to are embarrassed about what is happening in this country
      
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      March 1, 2023 9:06am
      - RockyJ
        
        I think it’s the lefties who are fearful. I worked with conservationists and Maori on marine protection. The conservations were willing to concede a cogovernance right over the coastline to gain a fake protection zone (aka customary fishing rights). When I confronted them over the loss of democratic control they were unwilling to defend their position to me. The Maoris got pissed off and I was pissed off. They are cowards who cannot stand up for themselves face to face.
        
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        March 1, 2023 10:43am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Mike, it’s not healthy at all. Yet every politician in NZ and every media outlet spent 18 months terrifying the majority of people in this country for no reason. What does that tell you about the people who “represent” us?
      
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      March 1, 2023 9:15am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Can only do one uptick. Fear Porn summed up perfectly.
        
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        March 1, 2023 9:31am
      - Ra Henare
        
        The gloss is definitely off the Jacinda years, and her response to covid.
        
        This piece from GP in Scotland.
        
        https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/
        
        Starts
        
        31st January 2023
        
        With the resignation of Jacinda Ardern, my thoughts were dragged back to Covid once more. Jacinda, as Prime Minster of New Zealand was the ultimate lockdown enforcer. She was feted round the world for her iron will, but I was not a fan, to put it mildly. Whenever I heard her speak, it brought to mind one of my most favourite quotes:
        
        ‘Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.’ C.S. Lewis
        
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        March 1, 2023 11:10am
      - Bob
        
        tell you about the people who “represent” us…..
        it tells you a lot more about the hidden agenda of the media!
        
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        March 1, 2023 12:07pm
- The Redbaiter
  
  Nat MP Mark Mitchell on NewstalkZB this morning-
  
  Question from Hosking- “$15 million from Willie Jackson for a “Maori” flood response. Is that separatist or racist?
  
  Response from Mitchell-“Well I don’t know I haven’t seen that because I’ve been a bit disconnected from the headlines”
  
  Its racist and its separatist Mr Mitchell, and if your party wasn’t the same as Labour, you would speak this blunt truth.
  
  National- the opposition you have when you’re not really having an opposition.
  
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  March 1, 2023 10:02am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Does “Claytons” spring to mind?
    
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    March 1, 2023 10:44am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He suggests he did not know about the grant, he was in HB at the fiery meeting last night standing up for the residents that were called liars over looting, but as usual with you, it’s all Nats fault
    
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    March 1, 2023 11:18am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      If an MP is incapable of thinking on their feet, they have no business being in politics.
      
      Example answer, even if he genuinely hadn’t heard about it:
      
      “I’ve been focusing my efforts on giving practical help where it’s needed, and listening to the concerns of Hawkes Bay residents, but if that is the case then it’s clear Labour continues to divide us by race instead of getting on and fixing the problems.”
      
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      March 1, 2023 11:46am
      - Wayne Mapp
        
        Loddenthinks
        He would not have given the answer you suggest because he would know that marae grants were regularly made when National was in office.
        National MP’s know enough about how government works to know that the answer you suggest would likely generate controversy. A bit like Maureen Pugh, you need to have a sense where the minefields lie, although in her case she didn’t.
        Hence why he gave a holding answer.
        
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        March 1, 2023 2:05pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Why should he get tied up in the race debate, I thought that was a leftie thing
        
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        March 1, 2023 2:40pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      G – all he had to say was “well if that’s true it certainly sounds like a race based policy. I’ll look into it.”
      
      It’s not rocket science. Playing dumb and being afraid to have an opinion constantly isn’t a great look.
      
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      March 1, 2023 1:51pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        But it’s not a policy, it was a handout, and it could have been for anything
        
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        March 1, 2023 2:41pm
  - MCōs
    
    Mitchell most certainly isn’t going to go out of his way to explain the basis of the appropriation, is he.
    The funding will go towards improving staffing for marae involved in recovery efforts, new equipment for the clean-up, storage of food and taonga, and future planning.
    After the various flooding episodes hundreds of marae were used for emergency centres for which they are ideally suited and will be in future once they are cleaned up and repaired from the flooding.
    $15mill ain’t going to go far towards building new emergency centres as an alternative.
    
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    March 1, 2023 11:21am
  - gravedodger
    
    He had been with friends over night in the storm ravaged Esk Valley following being at the Crab Farm Winery meeting the night before Master Baiter, I dont think comms are much improved and please dont say anything about TV or Radio, their reportage of that meeting did not seem to be the same meeting Kiwi Blog is featuring today. Cut him some slack at least he turned up.
    
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    March 1, 2023 2:15pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Exactly, he was there no sign of Brook who I think is their police spokesperson.
      
      A woman rang Hosking today furious the media were trying to suggest it was a friendly timid meeting, she said that was rubbish, and the anger was fever pitched and all aimed at Nash and Hipkins, also now the anger is building because absolutely nothing is happening
      
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      March 1, 2023 2:45pm
- Nickc2
  
  A racist Maori fostering racism eh?
  
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  March 1, 2023 11:52am
rouppe

Another discharge without conviction

Unbelievable
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March 1, 2023 8:03am
- Prince
  
  Well be fair Rouppe old chap, the assailant ‘worked in the education sector as a ‘kaiārahi (mentor)’, so having a conviction for home invasion and assault while the victim was holding her child could harm her employment prospects !!
  I note the assailants decided that shaving her head would last longer than giving her ‘a hiding’, so quite some hatred there. Still, some lucky tamariki will have her as a mentor. What could go wrong ?
  The Justice system under a Labour Government. So kind, pity about the victim and the future victims.
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:50am
- Gravelroad
  
  The way things are going regarding consequences for criminal behaviour, I would not have been surprised if the judge had ordered a reparation payment be made to the accused for hairdressing services.
  Just as well these violent women don’t live in Kaikoura. I recall a female cafe owner/worker there was imprisoned for two months over Christmas for paper work offences and at the court hearing “would not discuss alternative sentencing”.
  
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  March 1, 2023 9:44am
- sirknz
  
  When the Crown Prosecutor says that a discharge without conviction is not appropriate, that says something…
  
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  March 1, 2023 10:12am
  - Bobba Fret
    
    Yeah, but the judge just ignores it! Disgusting. Time to have a review system of these judges.
    
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    March 1, 2023 11:23am
Matt Long

The COVID cultists are getting a pasting lately but they’re keeping the faith.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-host-goes-twitter-rant-lab-leak-theory-suppressed-blame-conspiracy-theorists
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March 1, 2023 8:06am
Matt Long

Climate Alarmist and thought policeman Christopher Luxon introduced me to a new term recently; Climate Minimiser.
Apparently it is smear de jour with Regressives today
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018879274/climate-minimisation-still-has-a-foothold-in-media
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March 1, 2023 8:09am
- Lee C
  
  Better than ‘Denier’ a which was born to liken someone who questions something with being akin to denying the Holocaust was real.
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:13am
  - Mike
    
    I think most people could agree that ‘alarmist’ and ‘denier’ are not helpful terms when discussing climate change and responses to it.
    
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    March 1, 2023 8:19am
    - Matt Long
      
      When you have an aspiring Prime Minister saying a cyclone was caused by climate change, he is either an alarmist or mentally ill.
      
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      March 1, 2023 8:50am
      - thirteenstars
        
        Someone here said “man-made killer cyclones hunting innocent Kiwis”, which I thought was quite good.
        
        It might have been me.
        
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        March 1, 2023 9:37am
      - Don Beckett
        
        Yes, I’m afraid the engaging of mouth before putting brain in gear by Luxon in the Maureen Pugh incident will cost National dearly. Maureen may or may not be the sharpest tack in the box, but Luxon treated her abominably.
        Why didn’t he round on Shaw for giving such a pathertic response ? Surely a minister can do better than attempting to ridicule the questioner.
        But no worries, Luxon came to his rescue.
        
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        March 1, 2023 10:49am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Mike – really? I’m sure those terms were extensively used during the covid circus. I don’t recall you or any of the other Branch Covidians complaining then.
      
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      March 1, 2023 9:25am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Luxon ought to get onto this site & check the reliability of his own sources.
    https://co2coalition.org/about/
    
    Real scientists who aren’t on the take and happy to provide ACTUAL FACTS, not just skimming our very recent climate history.
    
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    March 1, 2023 8:32am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      It’s Virginia, so does not affect NZ. We have different CO2 to them.//
      
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      March 1, 2023 8:46am
    - Mike
      
      How do you manage to decide who is a ‘real’ scientist and who is not?
      
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      March 1, 2023 8:49am
      - Cassandra
        
        If they say “The science is settled” or use “consensus” than they’re not real scientists.
        
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        March 1, 2023 8:58am
      - Grunter
        
        Mike – That’s easy to answer – ‘Real Scientists’ aren’t paid by socialist alarmists.
        
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        March 1, 2023 9:05am
      - Matt Long
        
        If they are creating and harnessing
        technology to mitigate climate change they are scientists.
        If they are stoking fear to get funding they are corrupt.
        If they are stoking fear to get power and subjugate people they are “Progressives.”
        
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        March 1, 2023 9:24am
      - thirteenstars
        
        “If they say “The science is settled” or use “consensus” than they’re not real scientists.”
        
        I’m writing that one down.
        
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        March 1, 2023 9:34am
      - Chris Nisbet
        
        If they say something like “our model shows”, your sceptometer should start twitching, big time. Climate models don’t ‘show’ anything.
        A ‘real’ scientist would admit his hypothesis was wrong if the predictions made from it weren’t confirmed by observations. If they just move the date of their prediction back a few years, well, the sceptometer should be twitching again. God help me, I’ve read that some people have this idea that it’s the measurements that are wrong if they don’t match the model predictions. I doubt that they’re the ‘real’ scientists.
        
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        March 1, 2023 3:27pm
  - kowtow
    
    It’s not “better”.
    
    It’s just yet another 1984 style put down.It’s unscientific and undemocratic as it is a simple put down , an appeal to emotion which is used to shut down genuine questions and open dialogue and in itself explains nothing .
    
    Tonga volcano , is that “climate minimising”.
    
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    March 1, 2023 8:33am
    - hmmokrightitis
      
      Interesting isn’t it. The majority of “climate scientists” have either stayed silent about this or, if they have any integrity have stated that weather events in and of themselves aren’t representative of climate change / global warming / [insert trendy scary term here]. Trends are, singular events no – which of course makes perfect sense.
      
      Luxon has basically demonstrated that groupthink ala labour is fine by him too. Did he also surround himself with yes folk at Air New Useless?
      
      He refuses to back free speech, backs the climate hysteria, and largely I suspect because he is frightened by the media. And/or not brave enough to try and have a nuanced conversation with those of us who might think about holding our noses and voting for him.
      
      What a sad, shabby state of affairs.
      
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      March 1, 2023 9:12am
  - coge
    
    Denier isn’t a scientific term. It’s the language of a cult that dates back to the Spanish Inquisition.
    
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    March 1, 2023 11:55am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Isn’t denial a river in Africa?
      
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      March 1, 2023 12:23pm
    - Random T Person
      
      I thought denier was a measure of fabric density.
      
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      March 1, 2023 12:34pm
    - kowtow
      
      Spanish Inquisition actually allowed you to be defended in a court .
      
      Climate denialism , not so much.
      
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      March 1, 2023 5:00pm
- Simon
  
  Luxon / National serve man made climate fraud an international ideology which sets out to harm the people of NZ.
  
  National are agents of this hateful & destructive international dogma forced upon NZ.
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:26am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    And Seymour’s acceptance of msn made climate change ?
    
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    March 1, 2023 10:08am
    - Chris Nisbet
      
      Seymour’s approach seems to be the least worst option by far. My understanding is that he wants to get rid of the car subsidy and all other bullshittery except for the ETS. He then wants to tie our carbon cap/price thingy imposed by the ETS to what other countries do. This seems fairly clever because other countries will most likely not adhere to their ETS schemes (for long). He can do all this without being labelled a denier, but might risk being labelled a ‘minimiser’ by Luxon I guess.
      I’m not sure of his position on Net Zero. He seems reasonably clever, so probably understands that it’s physically impossible to achieve, let alone unnecessary in the first place.
      
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      March 1, 2023 3:50pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Preferably the French & the Southern Europeans
        
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        March 1, 2023 5:43pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Bullshit, he believes in man made climate change, and there is no policy as usual, just sound bites, he might be going with the greens and Labour
        
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        March 1, 2023 8:05pm
- Souvlaki
  
  If you have a few minutes….Muriel Newmans opinion piece well worth the read.
  https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/muriel-newman-questioning-climate-change
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:29am
  - pdm
    
    Are you not on her email list Souvlaki?
    
    Compulsory reading every week.
    
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    March 1, 2023 8:36am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Ypu. Not very well laid out, but the reading is good.
      
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      March 1, 2023 8:47am
- I remember when
  
  What we need is a Climate Common Sense Minister!
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:30am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Get Chloe onto it.
    
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    March 1, 2023 8:48am
  - TS Child
    
    Hah! A Minster of Common Sense full stop would be pretty good. Portfolio would include differentiating between essential and non-essential projects as defined by outcomes for people not fame for ministers. And ensuring support went to people in most need. As opposed to groups determined by sex, sexuality, religion or colour. My suggestion is that the people in most need are generally poor and/or unwell and/or lacking family and general community supports.
    
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    March 1, 2023 9:23am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    That won’t happen until a scientist comes out with evidence climate change is a myth. They won’t do it because of retribution, sadly the rotten media will help with the persecution
    
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    March 1, 2023 10:13am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Plenty already have – but they are shut down & abused.
      
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      March 1, 2023 10:53am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        That’s what I mean by retribution, perhaps the worse is not right, persecution more like
        
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        March 1, 2023 11:20am
  - mawm
    
    What we need is a National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research reporting on science and not warmest dogma.
    
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    March 1, 2023 11:10am
- ClanMcleod
  
  The whole narrative control going on is nauseating.
  Nobody I know is denying or minimising “climate”. There has always been and always will be “climate”.
  They need to speak clearly.
  
  The discussion that needs to be had is how much (if any) impact human activity has on the climate and is it net negative. Then ask will the mitigations being proposed be worse than the cure.
  
  Exactly the same principles apply as during the covid circus. An exaggerated “deadly threat”. Then policies enacted that were far worse than anything the actual original “threat” could ever have possibly managed.
  Maybe this time we can have a rational, adult discussion about the potential “threat” and stop these insane “cures” before it’s too late?
  
  Haven’t we learned enough through the covid fiasco? It certainly looks like Luxon has learned nothing.
  
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  March 1, 2023 9:22am
  - Paulus
    
    Hasn’t the Earth’s climate been changing from hot to cold, and back, for many millions of years ?
    Or is it just me !
    
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    March 1, 2023 9:51am
    - Ian Boag
      
      Hasn’t the Earth’s climate been changing from hot to cold, and back, for many millions of years ?
      
      Sure. Including glaciations that covered much of the northern hemisphere with kilometre thick ice and megadroughts that lasted a century or two and wiped out whole civilisations plus periods of violent storms etc. Not the sort of climates that eight billion people could exist in.
      
      We in the middle of an experiment to see if adding a couple of hundred gigatonnes of CO2 will act as a forcing agent to move the climate someplace else from its present benign state. Maybe it will all be OK and the climate will continue “business as usual” …
      
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      March 1, 2023 10:15am
      - Don Beckett
        
        It’s not an experiment – it’s the reality of the world today, and we could well do with more CO 2 to help the greening of the planet so everybody can have a full belly.
        
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        March 1, 2023 10:56am
      - Local Miller
        
        We have the history of the climate and the history of the CO2 levels going back to the pre-Cambrian period, and it is irrefutable that the climate varied massively through glaciation and tropical conditions, independent of the CO2 levels. In more recent history we have the roman Warm Period, the Medieval warm period, the little Ice Age, all at times when the CO2 levels were no where near what the are now, and there was apparently no significant CO2 released by man.
        
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        March 1, 2023 12:04pm
      - Taieri
        
        Maybe it will all be OK and the climate will continue “business as usual”
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        And what’s this “business as usual” Ian?
        Is “glaciations that covered much of the northern hemisphere with kilometre thick ice and megadroughts that lasted a century” business as usual? Do you really think that “Gaia” gives a f..k about what we do?
        
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        March 1, 2023 12:49pm
      - gravedodger
        
        Meanwhile on a nearby planet a Government sometimes referred to as the CCP is building two new coal fired power stations every week and India nearby on a similar path to CO2 emission glory.
        If CO2 is the bogy might not that be where to begin a redressing not a burping cow sending Milk product to help those two nations feed themselves..
        
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        March 1, 2023 2:26pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        @Taeri
        
        Climate wise “business as usual” means the benign conditions we presently have
        
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        March 1, 2023 7:04pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        The Ice Age will be back eventually.
        We’ll probably have destroyed our civilization before that but who knows we might work it out.
        
        ‘It is the nature of intelligent life to destroy itself
        This is the argument that technological civilizations may usually or invariably destroy themselves before or shortly after developing radio or spaceflight technology. The astrophysicist Sebastian von Hoerner stated that the progress of science and technology on Earth was driven by two factors—the struggle for domination and the desire for an easy life. The former potentially leads to complete destruction, while the latter may lead to biological or mental degeneration.’
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox
        
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        March 1, 2023 7:32pm
- thirteenstars
  
  Apropos, Tremain’s cartoon at Bassett, Brash & Hide:
  
  https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/tremain-out-of-step
  
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  March 1, 2023 10:32am
- Handyman
  
  It is word trap. It goes like this.
  
  1. The science is settled. The earth is round…. Ok
  2. Therefore you must stop driving your car. eh??
  If you don’t stop driving your car, you must be a flat earther.
  
  You can accept the climate is changing but remain unconvinced of the link to the second part.
  
  There is an easy way to settle the “science is settled” debate.
  Remove all funding for research related to climate change.
  After all, there is no funding to investigate other settled science such as the law of gravity. Focus all research on adaption to global warming, such as the recent snow in LA.
  
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  March 1, 2023 11:22am
  - Taieri
    
    1. The science is settled. The earth is round…. Ok
    2. Therefore you must stop driving your car. eh??
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    There’s some logic here. If the earth is round and you decide to drive around it, you will finish at the point of origin. Wasting a lot of time and petrol doing so. So there’s no point in driving, is there?
    
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    March 1, 2023 12:52pm
Lee C

I’m compiling list of musical sources to pay tribute to the International Pandemic response.
Got it down to
‘Anyone Who had a Heart’
‘The Heart Will go on’
and of course anything from
‘Sheer Heart Attack’ by Queen.
‘My Sharona’
oh, and
‘Killing me Softly (With his Song);

Any suggestions?
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March 1, 2023 8:12am
- fernglas
  
  Needle and the Damage Done by Neil Young?
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:14am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Winner. I thought of that then scrolled down. 🙂
    
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    March 1, 2023 8:49am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    fernglas – perfect!
    
    But I did love this production from Media Bear. Great parody song.
    
    Stick Me With Your Death Shot
    
    https://odysee.com/@hipsterious:3/Stick-Me-With-Your-Death-Shot—Media-Bear:a
    
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    March 1, 2023 9:37am
- RockyJ
  
  River of Deceit by Mad Season. It’s there, on Spotify
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:19am
- Don Beckett
  
  “But I won’t do That” – Meatloaf.
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:27am
- Simon
  
  Shot through the heart.
  Hit me with you best shot.
  Heart of Glass
  Dont go breaking my heart.
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:31am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    The other version of Hit Me With Your Best Shot.
    
    https://odysee.com/@hipsterious:3/Stick-Me-With-Your-Death-Shot—Media-Bear:a
    
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    March 1, 2023 9:38am
- RockyJ
  
  The Hurt. Nine Inch Nails
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:42am
- Rusty
  
  @ Lee, a song banned in 1966 “They are coming to take me away” by Napolean Bonaparte
  
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  March 1, 2023 9:03am
  - Tarquin North
    
    Michael Wood used to be a singer?
    
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    March 1, 2023 9:16am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      New Knick name for him, “Pearl” she was a signer also
      
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      March 1, 2023 2:49pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Haha hehe, to the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time?
    
    IIRC the B side was the same song played backwards. Napoleon XIV.
    
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    March 1, 2023 12:14pm
- Ghost
  
  Lily Allen – Fuck You
  Twisted Sister – We’re Not Gonna Take It
  Queen – Another One Bites The Dust
  Guy Sébastien- Don’t Worry Be Happy
  John Farnham/Jimmy Barnes – When The War Is Over
  
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  March 1, 2023 9:16am
oldpark

Whats this?Surely not. Check out this lot,

The Ardern Legacy lives on in the house of Hipkins Government her replacement .
Seems there is money for the terrible flood damage in Hawke’s Bay a great help for all concerned .
There is $15,000,000 Dollars from NZs taxpayers to ease the squeeze. Sadly to qualify one has to be Maori .I kid you not .
Just another follow up to the racist division of the so called Three/Five Waters Legislation by the Hipkins Government .
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March 1, 2023 8:12am
- pdm
  
  oldpark – the usual suspect Willie Jackson dishing the dosh out – and loving it.
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:39am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  And Jackson states it’s not special treatment, Jesus weeps
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:45am
  - Wayne Mapp
    
    I imagine most of the money will be going to marae so that they can be effective centres of support when these kinds of emergencies happen. In most of the East Coast marae are a vital part of community support given the number of people who will be affiliated to a local marae. And not just for Maori.
    If National had been in office something like this would have been done through Whanau Ora.
    
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    March 1, 2023 9:18am
    - Opie
      
      So why not say that then.
      
      They say – here is 15 million for Maori. That is different to here is 15 million to help fund emergency care out of maraes for all nzers.
      
      Why don’t they say it? Because it’s not for nzers. It’s for maoris.
      
      It’s money paid out dependent on your skin colour.
      
      It’s racist bullshit Wayne and you are part of the problem trying to twist it around and justify it as something it’s not.
      
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      March 1, 2023 9:25am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        To be fair they did say it’s to go to Māori and the marae
        
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        March 1, 2023 10:26am
    - kowtow
      
      From the Herald
      
      “The funding will be split as follows:
      
      · $9 million to be distributed through Te Puni Kōkiri, an agency that is able to leverage its experience and relationships to support response efforts in Māori communities
      
      · $3 million will be distributed through Whānau Ora to fund Commissioning Agencies to manage and co-ordinate responses, to augment and deploy resources to impacted regions
      
      · $3 million will be distributed through Te Arawhiti to support direct iwi partnerships and relationship activities, strategic leadership and co-ordination.”
      
      Anyway I think it’s just another excuse , like the batflu, to throw borrowed money at narrow and race interests and is contrary to the principles of equality ,fairness and democracy .
      
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      March 1, 2023 9:32am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        That is not waist Jackson thinks, he stated marae
        
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        March 1, 2023 10:27am
      - Nickc2
        
        How much of this racially gifted money will find its way back to Labour’s Maori Caucus members’ re-election funds?
        
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        March 1, 2023 11:41am
      - Loddenthinks
        
        “$3 million will be distributed through Te Arawhiti to support direct iwi partnerships and relationship activities, strategic leadership and co-ordination.”
        
        If anyone didn’t know (I had no idea) Te Arawhiti is the “Office for Maori Crown Relations” and given the blatant nepotism and corruption that abounds in Te Ao Maori, that word relations has more than one meaning.
        
        Yet, what a lot of meaningless waffle – not one cent of that $3m goes to actually doing anything, it’s all about “supporting partnerships, relationship activities, strategic leadership and co-ordination.”
        
        Get on a shovel or a digger for more than the obligatory photo-op, you leeches, and then we’ll see if the money’s well-spent.
        
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        March 1, 2023 12:20pm
      - Taieri
        
        Te Puni Kōkiri, an agency that is able to leverage its experience and relationships to support response efforts in Māori communities
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        Why an ability to “leverage experience and relationships” is necessary in, what is in effect, distributing alms?
        
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        March 1, 2023 12:55pm
    - Tommo
      
      And not the Sikh temples that punch way above their weight?
      
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      March 1, 2023 10:12am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        What about the muzzles, don’t they count now?
        
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        March 1, 2023 10:27am
    - Yabster
      
      “you imagine”- huh sums up alot of politicians- what you imagine and what the money is actually tagged for- (see kowtows post) are not the same thing , funny that.
      
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      March 1, 2023 10:24am
      - Wayne Mapp
        
        I was simply responding to the comments and had not read how the allocation was actually done beyond hearing the headline. However, I know enough about how government works to make an assessment of what would actually be the case. Having now read kowtow’s comment, turns out I was basically right.
        
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        March 1, 2023 11:25am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      It is too marae Wayne, but why are they not treated the same as us sad sacks
      
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      March 1, 2023 10:25am
      - Ghost
        
        I don’t mind the marae getting funding, they take people in, care for and feed them in a disaster. It’s where we would go in flooding. Funding is going to farmers, businesses, and help to residential owners
        
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        March 1, 2023 10:35am
      - Yabster
        
        you seem to be missing the point- it not the funding of marae as such as you say farmers businesses are getting funds (probably not proportionate though) its the fact its tagged as Maori funding- ie race based- if they just said part of the relief package that includes farmers and businesses will be going to marae no problem.
        
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        March 1, 2023 1:04pm
      - Ghost
        
        Radio just had one of the marae on grateful for the funding because they had been using money from their treaty settlement to pay for looking after people since the floods.
        
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        March 1, 2023 1:09pm
      - Opie
        
        Sure, give the money to marae but let’s see a line by line of the spending.
        
        You are talking about people that think it’s OK to spend 250k to organize an opening ceremony for a road, which doesn’t include any of the operating costs…
        
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        March 1, 2023 2:08pm
    - gravedodger
      
      Mr Mapp, how much will be donated to Rotary, Lions, Jaycees and other ordinary people assisting their neighbours and family without any thought of recompensee, just for some balance perchance?
      Many off those now regarded as special Marae are already in receipt of money never having been subject to taxation from various Maori incorporations acting as Charities.
      You do know that don’t you.
      
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      March 1, 2023 2:35pm
      - Wayne Mapp
        
        Gravedodger,
        Hmm, have you been out of New Zealand for the last 30 years? In which case you would have not been aware of the Māori revival, supported by successive governments. Covered in part by the partnership concept. So as a result marae are seen as having a somewhat different status to Lions or Rotary.
        I would imagine that Act would also buy into seeing marae being a bit different to Rotary. And thus would get funds ahead of Rotary.
        Would any political party at all have your viewpoint on this issue?
        
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        March 1, 2023 7:58pm
  - Bob
    
    Jesus weeps…..
    That will explains why NZ, Auckland in particular had two weekends of catastrophic downpours of RAIN; and I have been lead to believe that it was due to too much CO2, and farting cows.
    
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    March 1, 2023 12:17pm
- bjools
  
  https://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/budgets/covid-19-funding-allocation-expenditure
  As the COVID-19 response starts to become part of standard public service delivery, future COVID-19 related costs will be managed within the standard Budget process. The CRRF was closed at Budget 2022. The final size of the CRRF was $61.6 billion, of which $58.4 billion has been allocated to response and recovery initiatives, leaving a remaining balance of $3.2 billion. The remaining CRRF funding was repurposed for the following:
  NB: “$58.4 billion has been allocated to response and recovery initiatives”
  NOTE…allocated….not spent
  Surely in a country as small as ours, repurposing this money, to a more urgent “emergency” (ie the flood damage) is the best use of this money.
  or are their election bribes going to be that big?
  
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  March 1, 2023 11:58am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    No chance of returning it to the taxpayer, then?
    
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    March 1, 2023 5:48pm
Surely Knott

Stuff’s “Whole Truth” article “How our farms are contributing to Climate Change,” by Charlie Mitchell, is hiding the whole truth namely that these Whole Truth fact checking series are paid for by the govt’s public interest journalism fund.

The fact this is govt funded is not written or in the link to “more Whole Truth articles”. It’s only verbally declared if you also listen to the podcast .

There is a Whole Truth page for the series which puts the declaration right up front in detail but the link In Charlies Climate article doesn’t go there. It just goes to a handful of articles without disclosure. These “fact checks” are digital govt information pamphlets. They should be transparent. The govt should put the logo in the heading of the whole truth series and the funding disclosure should be up from.
There whole truth series is not hard science but govt defence of their leader on a variety issues of the day. . Articles include : get vaxxed even if you had previous covid, do female politicians get more abuse with a pic of Jacinda and what to think about oppositions claims on inflation, school attendance and crime.

The production team names 32 people for the series..

The Article https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/the-whole-truth/131299529/the-whole-truth-how-our-farms-contribute-to-climate-change

The disclosure page found via google https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2022/the-whole-truth-te-maramatanga/
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March 1, 2023 8:15am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Never read or click a Stuff article…..that is how they gather revenue to keep themselves alive.
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:43am
  - kowtow
    
    Agree .
    
    But it’s ironic how te media pardy , so keen to promote the regime and this dis/misinformation nonsense use terms such as “Whole Truth” for their own far left ,cultural revolutionary , divisive , agenda driven , anti democratic, Orwellian dystopic ,regime funded projects.
    
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    March 1, 2023 9:38am
  - Jethrod
    
    Is that the case even if you only on Stuff to only do the quizzes?
    
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    March 1, 2023 10:33am
- sirknz
  
  Use https://archive.fo/ to archive the article. It means that if they do a deceptive edit in the future, it is locked here.
  
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  March 1, 2023 10:15am
- Taieri
  
  “How our farms are contributing to Climate Change,”
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  Most of all, our farms are contributing to feeding us. Although it seems that the hack that produced this pearl of wisdom thinks (?) that food comes from the supermarket. But…are hacks actually capable of thinking?
  
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  March 1, 2023 12:59pm
Tomtoddy

Prebble nails yet another relevant issue. Puts his finger firmly on the truancy problem and dishes out some sage advice. Sadly, the unions decide education policy, not the government. Nothing will change except an increase in bureaucrats and debt.
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March 1, 2023 8:17am
- Mike
  
  Allowing teachers a say in education is as mad as thinking doctors should run a health system or that generals should decide defence policy.
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:21am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Mike, that’s satire! Are you feeling OK?
    Need a cup of tea and a lay down?
    
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    March 1, 2023 8:52am
  - Cassandra
    
    As long as it’s not the unions, mike. And did you really write that generals should decide defence policy? Lange’s geriatrics? Air Marshall Jamieson? You’ll be sent to the gulag by your politburo.
    
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    March 1, 2023 9:02am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Ever been on a school Board of Trustees Mike? If you had, then you’d have a different view of teachers having a say. I spent 7 years on a Board, and learned that anyone that says “I’m in education” was more than likely a numpty when it comes to (1) the administration of a school, (2) the curriculum, (3) their own role and (4) any improvements to child learning. Most are bent left politically and their progressive bias in everything they do is painfully obvious. They are happy to throw PISA at you when it suits them, but lord, if you mention it when it shows they are morons, they have epic (and laughable) meltdowns.
    
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    March 1, 2023 9:10am
    - Yabster
      
      getting to the point you would be embarassed to call yourself a teacher- woke wet and the main point churning out kids that can’t do the basics.
      
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      March 1, 2023 9:27am
      - In Vino Veritas
        
        Not all Yabster. Even some of the teachers that are progressive are bloody amazing. There are varying degrees of “having the best interests of the kids at heart” among teachers. The issue with teachers though, no matter how good they are, or what outcomes they provide, they are not rewarded (or punished). They all get the same. So what incentive is there to be better than average?
        
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        March 1, 2023 10:00am
      - Yabster
        
        def not all but as a collective from the Min of Educ down they are failing alot of children/young adults.
        
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        March 1, 2023 10:26am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Yes. Now you get it.
    Teachers know how to teach the way they know how to teach. That doesn’t mean they’re any good at running schools. The Union’s job is to ensure the teachers get overpaid as much as possible and have to do as little as possible. That isn’t condusive to good education policy. Basically, apart from the kids themselves, teachers are the last people that should be deciding education policy.
    
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    March 1, 2023 10:08am
- Simon
  
  At this point the only conclusion can be National are very frightened of the public sector.
  
  The public sector are also writing legislation now. Its way beyond the cretins running National to bring under control.
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:34am
- Surely Knott
  
  Sorry the unions are striking today. Uni professors heading off after 1 pm. Apparently this is a different strike to the school climate strike but i doubt it and presume we will see them there.
  
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  March 1, 2023 11:35am
I remember when

Te Matatini:
On Tuesday at Bastion Point, Tainui leader Tukoroirangi Morgan laid down a kaupapa to hosts Ngati Whatua Orakei – who did not take kindly to the insinuations or Tainui’s assertions of tangata whenua status.
Basically the issue is who is mana whenua in Tamaki Makaurau.

Meanwhile, in a parallel universe known as co-goverance……
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March 1, 2023 8:26am
- Cassandra
  
  It’s really important. Not.
  
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  March 1, 2023 9:03am
- Opie
  
  I can’t even understand what this says and suspect 90% of nzers don’t give a shit about it.
  
  We are 150b in debt with large parts of our food producing area under meters of silt.
  
  Want to be important? Go down there with a shovel.
  
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  March 1, 2023 9:27am
sirknz

Does anyone else find a segment in the media called ‘The Whole Truth’ troubling?

Especially when it is riddled with omissions and half truths.
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March 1, 2023 8:26am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Ha. “Media” and “whole truth” in the same sentence.
  That’s funny.
  
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  March 1, 2023 9:01am
- graham
  
  If I see an article in the media with phrases or buzzwords that set off my bullshit detectors, I tend to avoid them.
  
  And something that proudly claims to be “The Whole Truth” which, I see from Surely Knott’s comment, appears in Stuff, tends to cause my desktop bullshit-o-meter to wander offscale for a moment or 10.
  
  If Stuff is writing something entitled “The Whole Truth” … it probably isn’t.
  
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  March 1, 2023 9:24am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    graham – as inappropriately titled as the taxpayer funded Kate Hannah and her “Disinformation Project”.
    
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    March 1, 2023 10:27am
- Taieri
  
  Does anyone else find a segment in the media called ‘The Whole Truth’ troubling
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  Not when published by the Stuff. Then it’s The Gospel.
  
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  March 1, 2023 1:02pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Ardern trained/bought many disciples to spread the single source of truth.
    
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    March 1, 2023 1:55pm
Maggie Pie

Hope people don’t think I’ve been too hard on the MP-for-Tijuana.
I see where someone tweeted yesterday he’s taking Anti-Anxiety pills.
Apparently he needs them for Hispanic attacks.
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March 1, 2023 8:28am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Thought he might have URGENT business in Sydney for the Gay Pride event??
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:34am
- Tarquin North
  
  Hopefully he will have plenty of time on his hands after the election, maybe he could ease his troubled mind by permanently relocating back to Mexico?
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:36am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I am thinking a few here missed that. Read it out loud.
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:53am
  - Tarquin North
    
    Don’t worry Steve, I got it but being a leading practitioner of kindness around these parts I’m just trying to help the poor immigrant. I will even go one step further and pay the Mexican mongs airfare anytime he wants to leave on the proviso he never comes back.
    
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    March 1, 2023 10:15am
- Biscuit
  
  I felt for that MP the other day, Maggie.
  
  ONE News had a gaggle of folk all proclaiming that it’d only be right if the Government wrote off all beneficiary debts.
  
  And
  No-one
  Thought
  To
  Ask
  Ricardo
  For
  His
  Two
  Pesos
  Worth
  
  I was shocked…
  
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  March 1, 2023 11:18am
- Loddenthinks
  
  Ba-doom tish!
  
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  March 1, 2023 12:22pm
pdm

Maori were going to stab Captain Cook with a knife so a play funded by NZ Taxpayers apparently says.

How could they do that I ask?

From what I know of New Zealand history at the times Cook was in and around New Zealand Maori did not have knives. They had no steel let alone the ability or knowledge to temper it to make a knife blade.

At best they could have poked him up the jaxxie with a sharp stick.
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March 1, 2023 8:34am
- Don Beckett
  
  No, they had knives made from sharpened whale bone, and also obsidian.
  And how about a greenstone patu parting your checks? 🙂
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:36am
  - pdm
    
    Thanks DB – never thought of either whale bones or greenstone.
    
    Another thought though – wasn’t it Cook who introduced pigs to NZ? Because pig knives were to be used.
    
    Kunikuni excepted.
    
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    March 1, 2023 8:44am
    - Fuzzysnuggleduck
      
      Kunekune are oa breed via China originally. First pigs were what we sometimes call the wild ‘Captain Cookers’. in the bush.
      Kunekune are as indigenous or Maori as those purple ‘Maori potatoes’.
      
      The lady reading aloud her repellant poem is an Islander, as far as her Polynesian ancestry BTW.
      It does not have anything to do with Maori as such – other than some (a few) might agree with her.
      What is horrible, and should be completely unacceptable, is her talking about ‘driving around’ and looking a whites to stab with a borrowed pig-knife.
      
      Clearly a modern visualisation, hate-based revenge on whitey, and a twisted and toxic person who should in no way be celebrated or their material promoted.
      Pretty close to incitement to violence, at the very least fetishisation of race-based attacks.
      Just an example of the extreme double-think of modern ‘anti-racists’ who speak of decolonisation.
      
      I would love to hear Meng Foon’s take on the poem.
      
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      March 1, 2023 11:01am
      - Loddenthinks
        
        That wasn’t a poem.
        
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        March 1, 2023 12:23pm
      - Taieri
        
        The lady reading aloud her repellant poem is an Islander
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        The LADY?…an oxymoron, perhaps?
        
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        March 1, 2023 1:04pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        Let’s not get gender & sex mixed up with race. 🙂
        
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        March 1, 2023 1:38pm
  - Tommo
    
    An obsidian knife is no joke
    
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    March 1, 2023 5:20pm
- Simon
  
  Capt Cook, the maths nerd armed with telescope in a waist cloak and powered wig took apart those fierce, proud warriors known as the Maori.
  
  Truth of the matter some Maori sided with the British to gain a technological advantage over other Maori rivals. Maori didnt want steel knifes to kill Cook they wanted steel to kill other Maori.
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:41am
  - rangitoto
    
    Not to mention muskets.
    
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    March 1, 2023 10:00am
    - Tommo
      
      And sailing ship rides to the Chathams
      
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      March 1, 2023 10:13am
- Stellaboxer
  
  When Cook arrived on his second trip he was met by canoes full of Māori calling not for blood but for nails so transformational had this simple technology been in their lives. Bet that’s not in the play.
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:44am
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    You could get yourself a nice little Wahine to keep you company in the hammock for a nail.
    
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    March 1, 2023 12:27pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  They stole the knives eh-hoa
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:54am
- Nickc2
  
  FWIW, NZ’s history has just been rewritten and if the Curricula says Maori had Pig Hunter’s knives, so be it.
  Maori Academics at Waikato University aren’t going to change their version of history no matter what verifiable truth is placed in front of them.
  
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  March 1, 2023 9:05am
- Bill Felt
  
  What is the age called prior to the iron and bronze age?
  
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  March 1, 2023 9:55am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Utopia?
    
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    March 1, 2023 10:21am
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    Stone
    
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    March 1, 2023 12:25pm
  - Nickc2
    
    42, the answer to everything (Hitch Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy).
    
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    March 1, 2023 12:37pm
Don Beckett

Don’t worry Maggie.
Get him to chuggalug a few good tequila shots – especially with the worm.
That’ll settle him down. 😆
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March 1, 2023 8:34am
Stellaboxer

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/entertainment/liz-gunn-arrested-at-auckland-airport-hilary-barry-concerned-for-former-tvnz-presenter-s-descent-into-conspiracy-realm/?dicbo=v2-g2wyz3k It’s got to something when a journalist who doesn’t align with the corporate media line or the government becomes a delusional conspiracy theorists with “ far right “ sympathies lost down a rabbit hole . Arrested while attempting to interview someone returning from overseas after being kept under house arrest for not accepting the mRNA jab ( and as we have all known for some considerable time how illogical that is given the limitations of those vaccines) her old colleagues in the media don’t react with outrage but pity for her mental state. How very East German.
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March 1, 2023 8:39am
- Matt Long
  
  Question, did the police actually break Gunn’s wrist? Did a policeman say good when he did it?
  
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  March 1, 2023 9:47am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Matt Long – I read Liz Gunn’s version of what happened. I haven’t watched any video, but I would believe her. I don’t think she is a dishonest person.
    
    Even if you disagree with her beliefs, she isn’t an Ardern or Hipkins or Bloomfield or Baker. I’ll stop there, the list of proven liars is long.
    
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    March 1, 2023 10:22am
    - Matt Long
      
      I heard a rumour, I haven’t seen Gunn’s version.
      
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      March 1, 2023 11:33am
Maggie Pie

Imagine the sh*t we’d be in today if Espresso had been elected Mayor 🙁

Here’s Wayne Brown in this mornings Horrid….

“The Council had taken years to come up with a Unitary Plan at huge cost that allowed for way more new houses than needed given the slowdown in Auckland’s growth trajectory. The government mandate forcing councils to accept three homes of up to three stories high, on most sites regardless of whether the infrastructure was in place, now looks quite ridiculous”
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March 1, 2023 8:53am
- Paulus
  
  Why did the Auckland City CEO resign earlier in his appointment ?
  
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  March 1, 2023 9:56am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    According to Mayor Wayne it was for….. ‘personal reasons’
    
    Can’t say fairer than that 😀
    
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    March 1, 2023 10:24am
- Matt Long
  
  Wayne actually has a clue what pipe size capacity means, unlike the political class wombles coming up with the denser city nonsense.
  If there’s a market for claustrophobic living build it on a green feild site by the rail line and motorway/busway with 3 water services to match, avoiding flood plains and liquefaction zones and active volcanic zones.
  
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  March 1, 2023 10:05am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The running of the sheep in Te Kuiti is to be canned by Health and Safety.
Anyone been in the middle of a running flock of sheep? They tend to run around you.
After reading a few items and seeing it on Play School TV1 is seems Health and Safety are saying ‘Safety reasons’ without saying what those reasons are.
Is this another case of someone justifying their existence in the Public Sector.
What and I missing? Silence of the Rams?
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March 1, 2023 9:00am
- Stellaboxer
  
  “ safety reasons “ or “ health and safety “ are code for we’re closing you down because we don’t like you. It’s also a great Trojan horse in private corporations where some wet behind the ears Marxist activist can wrestle an inordinate amount of control from the managers under the guise of keeping staff safe and duty of care. An acquaintance of mine, a long serving union organiser, upon seeing the shrinking ability to disrupt and generally hassel bosses ( his language not mine) in the nineties turned in his card for the new title of a health and safety inspector. To this day he can turn up to anywhere that employs anyone and hassel away to climax. And they’ve done it like everything else right under your nose and with a good percentage of us clapping all the way.
  
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  March 1, 2023 9:29am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Do they still allow the gumboot throwing comp in Taihape? No doubt it will be on the hit list before long.
  Inept and inane doesn’t begin to describe the nonsense.
  
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  March 1, 2023 10:19am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    True. Imagine getting hit with a flying gumboot and being in a coma for the rest of your life.
    No sarc.
    
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    March 1, 2023 10:31am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Yeah. The smell would be nauseating, alright.
      
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      March 1, 2023 11:07am
colina

The Central planners next crazy idea.
A national food plan of course with Maori input
http://offsettingbehaviour.blogspot.com/2023/02/daft-idea-of-day.html
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March 1, 2023 9:01am
- Ehlana
  
  Here’s a whole article on how successful central food planning is: https://www.historyhit.com/why-did-the-soviet-union-suffer-chronic-food-shortages/
  
  I like to eat. So I’d like to stick with our current system, thanks.
  
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  March 1, 2023 10:55am
  - Widogast Corwin
    
    Not long ago, if you read that the Government was going to create a “national food plan”, you would assume it was satire.
    
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    March 1, 2023 11:07am
  - cmm
    
    A couple of years back I had a very interesting discussion with a Russian colleague about the old days living in Moscow.
    
    Back then, during the Commie utopia, almost all of Moscow would travel out to their allotments on the week end to stay in their little huts and tend to their vegetable gardens.
    
    If you didn’t have a few hundred kg of potatoes at the start of winter you’d starve.
    
    Now the old people still like to go out to their allotments. But now they plant flowers.
    
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    March 1, 2023 11:54am
    - Jack5
      
      An article on today’s dachas is at the link below.
      
      A young, “middle class” Moscow couple with kids I have chatted with on line still have a dacha, but plan to build a permanent house on the site and commute to work.
      
      https://www.npr.org/2021/08/06/1020691361/the-dacha-is-russias-summer-cure-for-urban-life
      
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      March 1, 2023 2:00pm
RoboRob

Rob Campbell has been removed from one of his boards. I am stunned, I honestly didn’t believe it would happen. Well done Labour.

I have held of in commenting on Luxon to this point but really, his was the party being attacked and it was a great attack stick to use against Labour. What does Luxon do, he is weak as dishwater on it. Multiple TV an radio appearances slamming Campbell and screaming for is removal? Nah. Sadly Hipkins and Verrall come out of this looking strong and decisive defenders of public sector neutrality. On the opposition side it was, yet again, Seymour who spoke strongly on the issue.

I don’t know Luxon, I don’t know what he is like as a real person. I am unsure as to what he really stands for. All of this is an issue for National. What I do know is that he appears weak and indecisive, to scared to put his head above the parapets and stake his claim on an issue. Labours three waters policy is a great example, it appears good policy and needed to be released to show National had some policy. National chooses to release it over a weekend during a national emergency. That’s what a sitting government does when it wants to release bad news that they hope people will ignore. Does Luxon actually think this is bad policy and is scared to be challenged on it?

At this point I am a firm Act voter. I wasn’t 2 months ago, I was still in the National camp. We need a strong right, it is sad to see National destroy themselves in the face of such a hapless Labour party.
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March 1, 2023 9:03am
- Matt Long
  
  Funny, I was saying I had no idea what Luxon stood for a year ago, but he’s giving clues now: Storms are caused by climate change. Todd Muller is chosen for Climate Change minister as well as Agriculture, his abominable conduct during the Wellington protests, a pattern has emerged.
  The reason he’s ineffective with the media is he’s constantly conflicted with fear of actual free enterprise people in his caucas and party versus his inate woke progressive instincts.
  We have another Turnball 🤮🤮🤮
  
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  March 1, 2023 9:57am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Muller wax climate change snd agri spokesman under Bridges as well
    
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    March 1, 2023 10:54am
    - Matt Long
      
      Yeah, but that’s when he was the Fonterra and Zespri Wunderkind, before he was the front man in the failed. Klutzes Coup that did so much for Ardern’s majority, that cost the country 100 billion dollars, and before he showed us he was James Shaw’s bestie.
      
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      March 1, 2023 11:42am
  - Michael J Baker
    
    “Another Turnbull”. That’s an interesting articulation of who/what Luxon could be like. Hadn’t thought of it that way, so will have to reflect on it. It’d be interesting to know whether he doesn’t believe in true free enterprise or is just worried about what such thought/expression in this caucus would mean electorally. Either way, it suggests National would be unpredictable (to the extent governments are predictable) if they formed a government. (And I can’t see an alternative Willis/Bishop leadership being any more successful as the media/elites would turn on them in due course. All it would do is speed up the transition into a Labour Party clone.) The Nats would possibly stop hardcore unionism in NZ but it’s hard to see them materially changing NZ. With a few exceptions, I get more disenchanted with the National Party caucus every three years. Mostly careerists seeking post-nominals and social status. How’s that different from most Labour MPs? I’m not naive about NZ culture and it’s not clear whether we were ever a ‘freedom seeking’ nation, but it’s still sad to see NZ willingly enslave itself through promises of ‘safety’ and a ‘comfortable life’.
    
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    March 1, 2023 11:07am
    - Taieri
      
      It’d be interesting to know whether he doesn’t believe in true free enterprise
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      Why should he? He was never a businessman. He was a manager, an employee, a hired help…
      
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      March 1, 2023 1:08pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Welcome aboard.
  
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  March 1, 2023 10:04am
- ClanMcleod
  
  RoboRob – well said, that’s exactly how I feel right now. Luxon has been handed a gift and seems to want to throw it back unopened.
  
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  March 1, 2023 10:17am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He released it now because it puts Labour on the back foot as they try and sort their mess, a change to a Māori name will not work, I think timing was well planned, especially because he said policy will start to be released in : weeks
  
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  March 1, 2023 10:34am
  - RoboRob
    
    But why on a weekend. Why not Monday – Thursday? Why not release it on x day and have a number of media appearances lined up to discuss it and the difference to Labours policy?
    
    Nope, none of that. Just release over the weekend and hope the media picks it up and discusses it favourably. Aside from here, there’s F all discussion about this vote winning policy. I just can’t understand the strategy. It really only makes sense if you don’t really like the policy but feel you need to release something. I guess the other option is that your media / strategy is the pitts.
    
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    March 1, 2023 11:42am
Scooter

I bet he wishes he was back there to get “Hispanic” meds, a lot cheaper apparently.

For the most part, you can purchase prescription medications in Mexico without a prescription. You can also cross those meds back to the US. That’s why thousands of people cross the border to Mexico – to purchase discount pharmacy drugs. Sometimes, the savings are up to 80% on certain meds from Mexico.Sep 5, 2022
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March 1, 2023 9:04am
- Ian Boag
  
  Happens at the Canadian border too …
  
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  March 1, 2023 10:23am
  - cmm
    
    Not nearly to the same extent.
    
    Canada’s control over the supply of prescription medication is far more similar to NZ.
    
    In Mexico it is completely uncontrolled.
    
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    March 1, 2023 11:57am
  - marcw
    
    Most of that trade is because of the cost. Prescriptions are required, but the Canadian prices are a fraction of the US retail cost.
    
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    March 1, 2023 2:36pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      Yeah, it’s a two way flow over the border. The Yanks go to Canada for cheap meds, and the Canucks to to US for cheap booze. 🙂
      
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      March 1, 2023 5:14pm
Cassandra

Everything has to have Maori input these days. They have the most appalling record in health, education, employment, crime yet somehow they are supposed to have some special ability to guide the rest of us because of their race. No thanks. I’d like people involved who know something – and some of them might be Maori!
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March 1, 2023 9:08am
surfing

Maori mafia are at it again…

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/port-of-tauranga-offers-375m-mitigation-package-if-88m-expansion-plan-consent-granted/MMGFBAYXJ5ERRNM5L53KN43PHM/

Ports have put a 4% loading on the project cost to pay off maori…this works out to a healthy 3.75 million for Maori doing nothing.

Progress in NZ now requires a 4% Maori tax.
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March 1, 2023 9:11am
- Yabster
  
  fucking bribery and corruption the bro way.
  
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  March 1, 2023 9:30am
- NothingLeft
  
  And that is called paying the Dane-geld; But we’ve proved it again and again, That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld You never get rid of the Dane.
  
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  March 1, 2023 11:34am
Bobba Fret

Does anyone else think that if Jacinda was still the PM, Rob Campbell would not have been sacked?
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March 1, 2023 9:16am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  He would have been given a kind cuddle.
  
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  March 1, 2023 9:37am
- cmm
  
  The ginger wingnut wants to be seen to be a tough but fair player.
  
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  March 1, 2023 11:58am
hullkiwi

What a week it is turning out to be for National.

On Sunday, they released their response to 3 Waters.

As evidenced by Rob Campbell, they made it clear where they stood on co-governance, despite naysayers on this blog (for that matterwhat is Act’s policy?).

Campbell, because of his stupidity showed along with Cuddles Coster how much senior public servants are aligned with Labour politicians and policy.

Now there is the spectacle of the local police, police HQ and what the minister/PM are aware of or reporting as the real law & order situation. If, as appears to be the case, local news stories were in fact true, then Coster should be thinking about tendering his resignation also, and Labour spinmeisters, Nash and Chippie have got more questions to answer – especially after giving $15mill more to local East Coast Maoris.

I’ve been saying, since the Labour changing of the guard, that Chippie is accident prone because of his past, and he has the whiff of Palmer about him. So, are there any bets he may be rolled before election day?
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March 1, 2023 9:42am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  I were older what Hearalds paywalled which Chris won the week will say this time, let me guess, a narrow win to hipkins, apparently last night in the HB meeting it was extremely noisy, and Nash snd Hipkins were the target, going by media it was a timid meeting which was utter lies
  
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  March 1, 2023 11:00am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Not if you are going by Newhub this morning. The best bit about Coster’s spinning was claiming he was hearing nothing about looting or crime, but was hearing about a spike in domestic incidents. This given at a time when people couldn’t contact the police. So who are the liars & spinmeisters.
    
    Seems Labour under Hipkins is no better than Labour under Ardern!
    
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    March 1, 2023 12:15pm
- septic skeptic
  
  Why was Luxon not expressing outrage at Campbell and demanding he be sacked? IMO it’s because Luxon basically agrees with Campbell that his own policy is racist. I think he will look to achieve co-governance in another way, most likely through the councils. Also it’s not yet clear what role Pipa Mahuta will have as head of the retained temata arowa or whatever it is called. And what of these statements that Maori can issue that must be followed? Still retained under Luxon’s recognition that Iwi have as yet undefined rights and interests in water?
  
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  March 1, 2023 12:07pm
  - Ghost
    
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018879915/christopher-luxon-wants-campbell-out-of-epa-chair-role
    
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    March 1, 2023 12:24pm
    - peterwn
      
      I am surprised he was not gone by lunchtime today from the EPA role.
      
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      March 1, 2023 12:53pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    He did make it known Campbell had over stepped the mark. Albeit this morning in his media spots. He said correctly, that what had happened was for Verral to resolve.
    
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    March 1, 2023 2:27pm
Maggie Pie

TV3’s late-night news with Rebecca Wright was excellent.
The ‘slash’ interview with Nashie was worth the watch. He’s certainly a master of obfuscation that boy!

Rebecca was down in Wairoa filming the devastation and interviewing the displaced residents. Heartbreaking.
Our fave part was when the camera zoomed in a farmgate with a sign on it…..

IF YOU LOOT
WE SHOOT
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March 1, 2023 9:53am
- David Garrett
  
  Maggie: Very good…I remember a sign in suburban Christchurch 100 years ago which read:
  
  “Anyone found hanging around at night will be found hanging in the morning”
  
  It had a noose superimposed on the message. Don’t think you’d get away with that one today.
  
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  March 1, 2023 10:33am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    We’ve got sticky-decals on all the windows showing a Cowboy riding a galloping horse and firing a gun in the air.
    
    They say….”INSURED BY WINCHESTER”
    
    😀 😀 😀
    
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    March 1, 2023 10:49am
    - peterwn
      
      A car wreckers lot in Hamilton had a sign – “No Trespassing – Guard Dogs – Survivors Prosecuted”.
      
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      March 1, 2023 12:58pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Coming to a place near you soon. Let’s ban some gas stoves and put more stress on the power grid. I really don’t know what it is with the left and banning.
https://redrightdaily.com/biden-preps-to-ban-50-of-all-gas-stoves/
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March 1, 2023 9:57am
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION

Wonder who’d you identify here in NZ if someone said….

“1o per-cent for the Big Guy” ?
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March 1, 2023 10:10am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Tuku Morgan.
  
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  March 1, 2023 10:37am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Wally Jackson !
    
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    March 1, 2023 11:06am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Wally. I like that. Where’s Wally?
      Dunno, but you can bet he is up to no good.
      
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      March 1, 2023 2:53pm
- NothingLeft
  
  Mahutacorp.
  
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  March 1, 2023 11:32am
- rockape
  
  It’s called the Union political levie.
  
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  March 1, 2023 11:34am
- Ghost
  
  Kim Dotcom..
  
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  March 1, 2023 12:52pm
Swifty

I call on Nikau Wi Neera, Wellington City Councillor, to publicly apologise for his slave-owning ancestor’s misdeeds and to pay immediate and substantial reparations to the descendants of the slaves he owned:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11716093/amp/BBC-journalist-Laura-Trevelyans-family-apologise-pay-reparations-ancestors-slave-links.html

Further, I also call on him to use his profile to lead the movement to wipe the name Te Rauparaha Arena and to replace it with something more fitting for modern sensibilities. The idea that in 2023 we should have a public facility named after a warlord, murderer, butcherer of Maori, enslaver of women and children just cannot be defended and change is now beyond due.
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March 1, 2023 10:28am
- Blog-aholic
  
  I saw the Plunkett interview and he certainly has a firm grasp on irrationality.
  
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  March 1, 2023 10:33am
- Matt Long
  
  Maori slavery was culturally appropriate, evil white people had no culture and everything they did was bad.
  
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  March 1, 2023 12:15pm
  - Swifty
    
    Isn’t it odd that we hear so little, bordering on nothing, about slavery in NZ – and given that it was once so widespread here.
    
    The reason why is obvious of course. Doing so is of no advantage to the left and the Maori elites. It is in fact positively embarrassing for them – given who were the perpetrators of it.
    
    I personally think we should be talking about it far more than we do. I think that it should be taught in schools – that Maori routinely enslaved each other and well into colonial times.
    
    I feel so strongly about it in fact that I think we should have a NZ Slavery Truth and Reconciliation Commission established to fully investigate this holocaust and recommend reparations from the perpetrators.
    
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    March 1, 2023 2:12pm
Its only I

March already.

The start of the shoulder season for us in the tourism industry.

This season has been good start to our recovery so far. Long way to go though.

The swiss regulars are blown away by the devastation caused by Labours Covid oppression and are genuinely surprised kiwis just let it happen.

Aren’t we all?

The checks and balances just weren’t there.

Just a disclaimer, I don’t prompt the conversations just listen. In fact the revolting way kiwis turned on one another directly or indirectly via their vote for Labour is a profound embarrassment I don’t want to talk about to people enjoying the NZ in a way we try very very hard to pretend it is. Labours covid oppression has genuinely made it hard to keep my host game face this season, knowing the friendly kiwi theme is a fraud.

For the first time in my life I don’t want to live in NZ.

This next election and year or so after are more important to get right than they should be this time around, perhaps they always are but this one seem very different.
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March 1, 2023 10:36am
- peterwn
  
  We considered going to a funeral this weekend and perhaps have a few days break. Ferry car bookings impossible, very few passenger bookings available, air fares through the roof, no rental Corollas etc – cheapest was a Tesla. So we gave our apologies and will watch the video stream.
  
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  March 1, 2023 1:08pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/we-are-finally-back-on-line-2/

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/The-RID-book-strategy.pdf
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March 1, 2023 10:39am
Grunter

This socialist Labour Govt has racked up about $100 Billion in additional Debt in less than 6 years. The human brain has trouble understanding something so huge. Let me put it into perspective.

If you earned $1 per second, it would take 11 days to make a million dollars.

If you earned $1 per second, it would take 31 and a half years to make a billion dollars.

If you earned $1 per second, it would take 3,150 years to pay back the $100 billion this Govt has crippled us all with!

Clearly Robertson wins the prize of worst Finance Minister we’ve had in NZ.
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March 1, 2023 10:41am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I guess Robberson thinks like AOC.
  The only difference between a million and a billion is 3 zeros, and as zeros have no value, there is no extra cost.
  
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  March 1, 2023 1:41pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Try that one on the lenders!
    
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    March 1, 2023 6:08pm
Jack5

Rocket Lab USA Inc, founded in NZ, has won a contract to launch four of its Electron rockets carrying payloads for Capella Space, which monitors Earth with synthetic aperture radar satellites.

These capture imagery day and night for uses ranging from weather, geology, forestry research, to military surveillance.

Rocket Lab simultaneously announced the formation of an Australian subsidiary. Australia plans to triple the size of its space industry, with an additional 20,000 jobs by 2030.

In its announcement of the subsidiary, Rocket Lab says it now has operations in four of the countries in the Five Eyes intelligence alliance.

Rocket Lab’s Electron rockets are two-stage, and partly recoverable.
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March 1, 2023 10:58am
- NothingLeft
  
  I don’t see how they hope to survive after SpaceX’s starship comes on line. Starship is expected to drop launch costs to around $100/kg (marginal cost to SpaceX of launching an additional kg) within a couple of years, compared to $10-20000/kg for Rocketlab. SpaceX can then just drop their prices to a point where they put all competitors out of business.
  
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  March 1, 2023 11:31am
  - Jack5
    
    Competition will drive the space industry forward.
    
    Meanwhile Space Technology’s Elon Musk has a tough international competitor in his electric car business.
    
    Charlie Munger, right hand investment man for Warren Buffett in Berkshire Hathaway, says
    Chinese electric car maker BYD is well ahead of Musk’s Tesla in China.
    
    Munger had Berkshire Hathaway buy 225 million BYD shares in 2008 for $US232 million. It has made a 3,000 per cent gain on the shares, which grew to be worth billions. Berkshire Hathaway has sold some shares but still holds a 13 per cent stake in BYD.
    
    “Charlie called me one day and says, ‘We’ve got to buy BYD, this guy that runs it is better than Thomas Edison,'” Buffett told CNBC in 2018.
    
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    March 1, 2023 1:43pm
  - Wayne Mapp
    
    They don’t compete in the same space, so to speak. Yes, Starship will dramatically reduce per kilo prices, but it is a monster rocket. Its orbit won’t suit a lot of payloads. In contrast Rocket lab can put your payload exactly where you want it.
    Starship is the equivalent of a semitrailer. Rocket lab, more like a small delivery van.
    
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    March 1, 2023 8:12pm
Maggie Pie

Honestly….does anyone really give a flying-fukk about the ‘Monster Trucks’?

Asking for a friend.
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March 1, 2023 10:58am
- NothingLeft
  
  You appear to be suffering from an insufficiency of testosterone which tends to be correlated with lack of interest in loud, noisy, violent and dangerous activities.
  
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  March 1, 2023 11:27am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Actually the only reason I mention it was because Ma told me Marcus Slush spent an ENTIRE 4 hours on the topic last Monday!
  
  Then bugger me…it’s the headline in todays Horrid.
  
  SHEESH!!
  
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  March 1, 2023 11:35am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Did not know he is a mechanical and design engineer. Wonders never cease.
    
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    March 1, 2023 1:43pm
Ghost

Cleveland, Ohio to become the first 15 Minute City in the United States
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March 1, 2023 11:19am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Sounds like someone wants the public’s input on how to design a socialist city. Just go to California. The State is riddled with them.
  
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  March 1, 2023 1:47pm
Ghost

Oh poor hypocrite, so just for her Soft kitty

A teenager “ridiculed” on air by Heather du Plessis-Allan says she’s disappointed the radio host took two months to apologise.

Climate activist and Schools Strike for Climate (SS4C) organiser Izzy Cook, 16, was interviewed by du Plessis-Allan on the Newstalk ZB Drive radio show in September 2022.
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- Muttonbird
  
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  Heather Duplicity-Allan is a bully. An insecure bully.
  
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  March 1, 2023 11:38am
  - Ghost
    
    Na, you just don’t have a problem with a hypocrite bitching about people using planes when she herself had just come back from an overseas holiday. Heather did her job pointing out another idiot.
    
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    March 1, 2023 11:48am
    - Matt Long
      
      HDA should never have pointed out the hypocrisy, going against The Narrative is contrary to all precepts of good broadcasting and children should be encouraged to spread lies and moral panic without being challenged, does that cover it Muttonbird?
      
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      March 1, 2023 12:35pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      It’s different when the left do it.
      HDPA hurt her feelings.
      
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      March 1, 2023 1:53pm
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    Nah, the young activist insisting trips overseas are no longer acceptable due to the current climate crisis.
    Heather asked if a trip to Fiji for instance was OK. Answer was NO.
    Then moment later, activist asked if she had travelled overseas recently. Answer was YES, a month back. And the location when asked: FIJI.
    And Heather laughing was seeing as bullying?
    It was unintentional comedy gold.
    Har F-ing Har.
    Monty Pythonesque.
    
    I can see how some others might be miffed though.
    Lefties are known neither for logic, moral consistency nor humour.
    
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    March 1, 2023 12:18pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Yet when she publicly announced that she’d thrown John Key’s Christmas card into the fire without reading it I bet you cheered???
    
    She does her job better than most of our “journalists” but she’s still a Lefty.
    
    Also – that kid was a hypocrite and was justly treated like one.
    
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    March 1, 2023 12:51pm
  - Taieri
    
    Heather Duplicity-Allan is a bully. An insecure bully
    ——————–
    
    She is. But what is Izzy Cook then?
    
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    March 1, 2023 1:13pm
  - Yabster
    
    a bully hmm is that because she doesn’t hold your lefty socialist opinions and pointed out to the climate change panic striken child that if shes so serious about the topic she should reconsider trips on planes (mum made me go is a great excuse..).
    
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    March 1, 2023 1:18pm
  - Swifty
    
    If HDPA is a bully Mutton, what does that make you?
    
    You regularly pop up here to ridicule, slur, label, mock and insult your political opponents.
    
    Had a look in a mirror lately?
    
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    March 1, 2023 2:16pm
- graham
  
  A 16 year old who is described as an activist, organises protests and “strikes”, and presumably agreed to be interviewed by Heather du Plessis-Allan of her own free will, gets all upset when she isn’t treated with kid gloves.
  
  Make up your mind, miss. Either run with the adults and be treated as an adult – which means if you voluntarily agree to a radio interview and make a prat of yourself, you’ll be treated like a prat – or stay out of the kitchen if you can’t handle the heat.
  
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  March 1, 2023 12:08pm
- marcw
  
  I think poor Izzy’s mum forgot the Streisand effect when she made the complaint to the BSA. We had mostly forgotten about her daughter’s hypocrisy, but now, we have all been reminded, and will remember her name more easily and for longer.
  
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  March 1, 2023 2:51pm
- kowtow
  
  Well te media pardy went out of their way to try to “ridicule” Maureen Pugh .
  
  and Lizz Gunn.
  
  But we can’t have that against a climate hypocrite.
  
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  March 1, 2023 3:14pm
- kowtow
  
  In the current climate of dreadful school pupil performance anyone adding to the social disaster that truancy causes should be ridiculed.
  
  That includes school administrators who might encourage climate panic.
  
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  March 1, 2023 3:18pm
Ra Henare

The gloss is definitely off the Jacinda years, and her response to covid.

This piece from GP in Scotland.

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/

Starts

31st January 2023

With the resignation of Jacinda Ardern, my thoughts were dragged back to Covid once more. Jacinda, as Prime Minster of New Zealand was the ultimate lockdown enforcer. She was feted round the world for her iron will, but I was not a fan, to put it mildly. Whenever I heard her speak, it brought to mind one of my most favourite quotes:

‘Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.’ C.S. Lewis
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March 1, 2023 11:40am
Ghost

Hmmm, some tosser discloses what caused the storm.

Brian Tamaki has once again blamed a natural event on the wrath of God, this time telling his followers that Cyclone Gabrielle was brought to Aotearoa by porn, abortion and gay rights.

The self-styled ‘Apostle’ of the Destiny Church made the comments just days after the storm hit, dedicating a sermon to the topic and zeroing in on Pornhub statistics showing that Gisborne and Hastings have the “highest number of porn watchers in the country”.

Article
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March 1, 2023 11:46am
- Maggie Pie
  
  My partner reckons Brian talks as his arse guides him.
  For a start, around here WE all escaped completely unscathed.
  
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  March 1, 2023 12:05pm
  - Biscuit
    
    Agreed, Maggie.
    
    All we had in this neighbourhood was a small puddle in the backyard.
    
    I swear, I’m too pure for my own good…
    
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    March 1, 2023 2:50pm
    - Colville
      
      Whereas I had half a meter of seawater thru downstairs…
      
      I have angered Tangaroa !
      
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      March 1, 2023 7:18pm
- Matt Long
  
  Reminds me of a quote from The Secret Diary of Adrian Plass, regarding a washed out Christian camp.
  Person a; Maybe God is telling us not to have the camp this year.
  Person b; Maybe God is telling us we need to persevere and carry on despite the weather.
  Local; It always rain around here this time of year and I don’t know why stupid would try to camp in this weather.
  Apostle Brian can be a barrel of laughs.
  
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  March 1, 2023 12:43pm
- rangitoto
  
  Pouring a libation in honour of Poseidon was effective at stopping the storms from damaging my house.
  
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  March 1, 2023 1:43pm
Captain Mainwaring

What the Hell does the Governor-General have to do with the appointment of the All Blacks coach? I just heard her pontificating on the radio.
Does King Charles get involved with the affairs of English rugby?
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March 1, 2023 12:07pm
- Ghost
  
  The current one? I know Dame Patsy Reddy is on the rugby Board.
  
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  March 1, 2023 12:30pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Sorry, I think I got confused.
    
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    March 1, 2023 2:21pm
    - Biscuit
      
      Capn, I think Dame Patsy got appointed to the board at about the time that Women’s Rugby began taking off here…
      
      Inclusiveness and all that…
      
      If I was going to quibble at the affairs of New Zealand Rugby I’d begin not with DP but with the incumbent coach and the incumbent CEO, both of whom fill me with even less confidence than do the [I’ll self-censor here, Mr Mod!] crowd who are running New Zealand Racing into the ground…
      
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      March 1, 2023 2:40pm
      - Colville
        
        Foster has quit effective after the All Blacks early exit from the World Cup.
        
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        March 1, 2023 7:19pm
- MCōs
  
  Don’t be such a dick.
  Dame Patsy Reddy is the chair of New Zealand Rugby.
  
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  March 1, 2023 8:37pm
Swifty

I am so special, I demand NZ families be taxed even more to fund my lifestyle choices!

https://i.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131325531/the-blunt-realities-of-trying-to-make-a-career-in-the-arts

Fund me! Fund me! Deeper! More!
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March 1, 2023 12:55pm
Nickc2

Wow, Americans to pay for Ukranian Pensions.
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/02/wow-biden-on-us-taxpayer-funding-for-ukraines-pensions.html
That’ll go down well in the Brox eh?
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March 1, 2023 12:59pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Go down really well at the 2024 Election. Democrats will have exploding heads.
  
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  March 1, 2023 2:00pm
[email protected]

With respect to today’s ramraids and looting.

New Zealand law says that you have the right to use reasonable force to protect your life and the life of others. You also have the right to protect your property and prevent someone from breaking into your home illegally.

Then the law goes further to explain:

“In the situations above, reasonable force does not include striking the other person, nor inflicting bodily harm.

It is difficult to define what is reasonable force, as each situation will be different. But essentially you must use force that is proportionate to the harm that you are trying to prevent.”

How can you protect yourself, others and your property if you are not allowed to strike or inflict bodily harm to a person trying to kill you or steal from you?

You can try but just talking is probably not going to cut it especially if the other person(s) is/are physically superior or in superior numbers.
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March 1, 2023 1:23pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  You tell the person trying to kill you, to go and stand in the naughty corner.
  Be kind.
  
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  March 1, 2023 2:03pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    Don’t take a knife to a gun fight. Take f*****g gun.
    
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    March 1, 2023 5:22pm
- kowtow
  
  If someone’s trying to kill you , that’s different to protecting your property.
  
  “Everyone is justified in using, in the defence of himself or another, such force as, in the circumstances as he believes them to be, it is reasonable to use.” (Section 48 of the Crimes Act 1961.)
  
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  March 1, 2023 3:09pm
- Tommo
  
  No jury will convict, but the police will make your life hell. Tough choice.
  
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  March 1, 2023 5:28pm
- Its only I
  
  Your INTENT was never to cause bodily harm to the poor lad…unfortunately the the persons hand got between the bat and the knife…they were stabbing people with ….so did their knees apparently.
  Yes judge, I often walk around the house wind milling baseball bats, don’t you?
  
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  March 1, 2023 6:55pm
Maggie Pie

A Dilemma….

Courier knocks on the door requiring a ‘delivery signature’.
First thing you notice is ‘tribal-tattoos’ on his arms.
You sign and thank him very much and wish a lovely day.

He then takes you completely unaware and asks if he can use the toilet?
You’re a woman home alone.
The cleaning lady isn’t due till Friday.

Do you allow him in? OR, do you say something silly like…. “I’m sooo sorry, they’re all broken at the moment”

How would YOU handle it?
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March 1, 2023 1:27pm
- Ghost
  
  Tell him sorry you have monkeypox and aren’t allowed anyone inside?
  
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  March 1, 2023 1:58pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I’ve already tried that one before.
    The guy reckoned every woman in Remuera has it.
    
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    March 1, 2023 2:04pm
Bridgenag

‘All Deaths are Equal, but Some Deaths are More Equal than Others’

https://open.substack.com/pub/metatron/p/all-deaths-are-equal-but-some-deaths?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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March 1, 2023 1:47pm
Swifty

You may disagree with him but, I believe, Rob Campbell speaks very well here:

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131367030/national-says-rob-campbell-must-be-sacked-from-all-government-roles

I also suspect he’d be good to have a beer with.
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March 1, 2023 1:48pm
Jack5

Decision on survival of the AM radio network, which is important in civil disasters, left to an unelected official of Parliament.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/485079/questions-over-am-network-s-funding-despite-its-essential-status-in-disasters
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March 1, 2023 3:12pm
Chuck Bird

In theory, politicians are our employees.

I know for certain jobs applicants must take an IQ test and a personality test.

Would it not be possible for MPs to be required to take just an IQ test?

I would which one would support my idea and which ones would not. Any guesses?
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March 1, 2023 3:28pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  90% of Labour would reject it, 100% of Greens (they don’t know what IQ is) and there are a few in National. Don’t know about Act. Embarrassing. Some would have an IQ somewhere around room temperature – and I mean Celsius.
  
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  March 1, 2023 3:51pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    Yeah – and Jacinde would NEEVEEERR have ben our PM.
    
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    March 1, 2023 5:25pm
- Ghost
  
  Drug testing would be beneficial.
  
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  March 1, 2023 5:30pm
cmm

When polled and asked if they wanted to be paid more, a whopping third said yes!
Shocking I tell you!

The last thing any sector needs is “help” from the government to “fix” things.

Just stop getting in the way!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/131365838/harassment-and-bullying-concerns-revealed-in-plan-to-transform-tourism-workforce
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March 1, 2023 3:30pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhYJS80MgYA
  
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  March 1, 2023 3:53pm
Ghost

Strange Newshub article. I think they have their attempt to link someone with a boy band wrong, mark wasnt new kids.

Wahlburgers has officially opened its doors to Aucklanders, and while Marky Mark isn’t here to commemorate the New Kid On the Block in-person, it hasn’t deterred hungry customers keen to sample the famous family’s menu.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/lifestyle/2023/03/wahlburgers-a-glimpse-at-the-menu-of-the-new-auckland-burger-hotspot.html
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March 1, 2023 4:34pm
Maggie Pie

My partner’s mum re-tweets….

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot concedes election!

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1630770682874277890

Can’t say I’m surprised tbh.
Everyone we knew reckoned her eyes were too wide apart.
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March 1, 2023 4:36pm
- Ghost
  
  Maybes it’s the hair but she reminds me of Kiri Allan
  
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  March 1, 2023 4:42pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Hammerhead?
  
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  March 1, 2023 5:46pm
- Widogast Corwin
  
  I guess your eyes are optimally spaced.
  
  By all means attack the idea of people. But making fun of their eye spacing is kind of fucked up.
  
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  March 1, 2023 6:11pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Not making ‘fun’ of anybody Wido!
    But you must admit that for an African/American, there is a touch of possible Asian heritage about her eyes.
    
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    March 1, 2023 7:00pm
    - Mike
      
      Takes a mongrel to recognize another?
      
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      March 1, 2023 7:17pm
Maggie Pie

A twitter bestie from New York re-tweets…. “He can go fck himself!!”

https://twitter.com/JamesPhillips00/status/1630584722253312002

My sentiments exactly 🙁
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March 1, 2023 5:37pm
- Widogast Corwin
  
  FFS. He said:
  
  “If Ukraine loses and Russia goes on to invade NATO countries, then the US will be obliged to “send our sons and daughters”.
  
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  March 1, 2023 6:07pm
  - Inandout
    
    WC, time for them to identify as rabbits to escape the draft.
    
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