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Mike

Happy International Children’s Book Day!
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April 2, 2023 8:01am
- Tony Stuart
  
  The love of reading is the best gift any parent can give their young children.
  
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  April 2, 2023 8:10am
  - Gravelroad
    
    @TS-
    But only if those children’s books are checked and judged for “wrong think” by the self appointed “let’s rewrite history to how we think it should be” censors.
    Can’t have kids learning to make up their own minds, eh.
    They must be told and moulded by the people who know best.
    
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    April 2, 2023 8:34am
    - pdm
      
      Gravel – we have a full set of Noddy Books. Our 4 children grew up on them.
      
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      April 2, 2023 9:24am
    - mogg
      
      Enid Blyton is now an evil, racist, sexist, transphobe.
      
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      April 2, 2023 10:19am
      - kowtow
        
        Agatha Christie’s also been given the Ministry of Truth treatment.
        
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        April 2, 2023 10:59am
      - Caine9
        
        When are they going to start on Shakespeare or Chaucer?
        How about Caesar’s historical writings, the Conquest of Gaul, for example? That wasn’t very nice to the French, history should be re-written, obviously….
        
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        April 2, 2023 12:01pm
      - Mike
        
        Caine9 is off to a good rewriting start by confusing the Gauls with the Franks.
        These snowflakes shouldn’t be allowed to read, let alone edit, classical literature.
        
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        April 2, 2023 12:09pm
      - kowtow
        
        caine9
        
        Already been done.
        
        ‘An investigation by The Times uncovered that the work of acclaimed authors such as William Shakespeare, Jane Austen, Geoffrey Chaucer, and Charles Dickens have been given trigger warnings.’
        
        https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/universities-backlash-trigger-warnings-on-english-literature-texts/
        
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        April 2, 2023 1:34pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Little House on the Prairie by Laura Ingalls is Racist.
      
      Here is a review by Jonathan Pie:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9_bI789Gog
      
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      April 2, 2023 11:12am
      - Mike
        
        Yes, it is racist. I think the favorite quote is something along the lines of: “when we arrived there were no people, only Indians”.
        
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        April 2, 2023 12:11pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        @ Mike. It was written just after slavery ended.
        As Jonathan Pie says, sometimes people find racism where there is none.
        Think about that – it is you, Mike.
        
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        April 2, 2023 12:53pm
  - sirknz
    
    I would like to thank my high school English teachers for beating the love of reading out of me.
    
    Finally getting back into reading for pleasure after what seems like too long.
    
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    April 2, 2023 9:14am
    - Mike
      
      It’s good that they abolished the use of violence as a teaching method.
      
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      April 2, 2023 10:06am
      - alloytoo
        
        Yeah but I miss the screaming
        
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        April 2, 2023 12:44pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Now schools face increasing student on teacher violence.
        
        I wonder why? Not.
        
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        April 3, 2023 3:25pm
  - Paulus
    
    As reading is one of the most valuable things that children can be given, it is along with time as both of greatest value.
    
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    April 2, 2023 1:28pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  Maybe it should be Happy International (Re-written) Children’s Book Day?
  
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  April 2, 2023 8:21am
- The Other Enoch
  
  Who are sad sacks who downtick this?
  
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  April 2, 2023 8:55am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Resident trolls.
    
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    April 2, 2023 9:12am
  - Bridgenag
    
    No….down ticking Mike is Automatic
    
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    April 2, 2023 10:49am
- lastmanstanding
  
  I have been following politics since 1968 and voting since 1972. In that time I have only seen 2 Governments that have made a postive contribution to the lives of the citizens and the economy Labour 1984/90 and National 2008/17.
  The rest have ranged from the bland to the downright dangerous.
  So that equates to 15 years out of 55 years or 27% of that time.
  Unless we select and elect quality politicians who set quality policy frameworks the country will never realise its potential.
  
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  April 2, 2023 9:20am
  - pdm
    
    lastman. – my first vote was on 10 o’clock closing 1967.
    
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    April 2, 2023 9:26am
  - The Redbaiter
    
    Lastmanstanding- “Unless we select and elect quality politicians who set quality policy frameworks”
    
    We have not elected politicians meeting this simple criteria for decades, mostly recently illustrated of course by Jacinda Ardern and Labour.
    
    However the deep discontent felt by Labour’s failure will not be assuaged by electing (IMHO) the worst group of National politicians ever assembled.
    
    Most recently exampled by Mr Luxon’s loony tune plan to “electrify” NZ. A path he has been persuaded to go down by party donors/ supporters from industries tied to the WEF.
    
    Why do I say its loony tune? Engineering. Simple engineering says it is utterly impossible, and its crazy that Mr Luxon can apply reason to the cancelling of the Lake Onslow project but is unable to do so in respect of his equally impossible CO2 reduction targets (50% reduction by 2030, 100% by 2050)
    
    Net Zero 2050 is most comparable to Orwellian phrases like “War Is Peace, Freedom Is Slavery, and Ignorance Is Strength.” We are being forced to accept lies like “Renewable Energy is Cheap and Clean” .
    
    The International Energy Agency estimates that only a partial energy transition in the USA alone would require increases in the supplies of lithium, graphite, nickel, and rare earths by 4,200%, 2,500%, 1,900%, and 700%, respectively, by 2040.
    
    That these material needs are unable to be met is ignored. However we, as voters, are about to elect politicians who have all agreed to ignore this reality and submit to the Orwellian lie above.
    
    When it all turns to ruin, as it inevitably will, we will deserve everything we get. We purely and simply voted Orwellian liars into power, and we did it willingly and in full understanding.
    
    So we were more than just complicit. We voted for it. No one forced us to. We did it to ourselves, because in the end and in the majority, we’re just as stupid and venal as the lying power seeking people we elected.
    
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    April 2, 2023 10:51am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Bugger off, go and look at the new candidates fFS, even leftie media are saying what a great selection of candidates, we have just been delivered Stephen Jack a south Otago farmer, he may well turn that seat now the border goes all the way to Balclutha , but you know better, the candidates are the worst ever, you really show your arrogance and bias, and you are part of the organised Act hit job, that hit job is why Act will never ever get my party vote again
      
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      April 2, 2023 12:09pm
      - The Redbaiter
        
        Did you watch Chris Bishop on Q and A this morning? If I wanted to speak my true opinion of his appearance it would not make it through moderation here. So I will use euphemisms.
        
        The “inaccuracies” and “exaggerations” and “distortions” coming from Mr Bishop were so many and so astounding I lost count.
        
        Really, the chance that I would ever get to reform and rebuild Sid Holland’s grand party is about as remote as a pig piloting a spaceship around the sun, but if it ever happened, Chris Bishop would be the very first person I would send down the road.
        
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        April 2, 2023 12:27pm
  - bjools
    
    Couple of points in that time
    72-75
    Kirk was warned that if something like the Clyde Dam was not built, e would have power cut in the mid 80’s, he did nothing and we had those power cuts
    75-84
    Muldoon…nasty prick
    But still built the Clyde dam and other projects that Kirk should have started, that we still rely on
    84-90
    Lange, another nasty self entitled prick
    Started well, but then chickened out to the unions and it all fell apart just before the share market collapse. He also, for his own domestic agenda, alienated countries with his anti American stance, that cost us a trading partner/friend and made the world look at us with mistrust.
    90-99
    Bolger/Shipley
    Achievements
    Bolger
    MMP
    Wind farms
    Economic recovery from Lange, Moore and what’s his name?
    Shipley
    Speedy recovery from the Asia crisis.
    99-08
    Clark
    Started with a growing economy and had us in recession 1 YEAR before the GFC
    Massive hospital waiting lists and times
    People going to Aus. for cancer treatment.
    08-17
    Key
    Recovered the economy and got it growing
    Kaikora repair
    Christchurch repair
    Hospital waiting lists
    Cancer treatment in NZ again
    etc etc etc
    all good (generally)
    07-present
    Ardern
    Housing crisis
    record numbers in emergency housing
    6.8% unemployment (unemployed and the other unemployed ie “job seekers”)
    Measles outbreak due to low immunization (80 deaths in Samoa, traced to NZ outbreak)
    Meningitis deaths, due to lack vaccine.
    Recession
    Corruption and lies not before seen from this “Transparent govt.”
    
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    April 2, 2023 11:24am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Reality, yes the Key govt, with English as Finance Minister recovered the NZ economy after the GFC & despite the three earthquakes.
      
      However, Key would do nothing that would damage his position in the polls…..so, he did nothing courageous like fixing the Family Tax Credit, the welfare system, raise the pension age (which English committed to).
      
      Because of MMP, political leaders are always going to speak to the voters in the centre & whether we like it or not the centre of NZ politics is left of centre, despite what we would like to believe.
      
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      April 2, 2023 1:50pm
    - CJames
      
      You are wrong in some of your points. In the mid 70s, they were still building upper Waitaki and the Tongariro scheme. They were also planning to build Huntly.
      
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      April 2, 2023 4:05pm
      - bjools
        
        I studied the Clyde Dam project at University, at the time 1978,.
        As part of that I read the cabinet advice to the incoming (Kirk) Govt. 1972.
        The result…Kirk did NOTHING and we had power cuts in the mid 80’s.
        Tongario power scheme, started under Holyoake
        The four stage project commenced in 1964 and was completed in 1983: the Western Diversion from 1964 to 1971, the Tokaanu project (Rotoaira Diversion) from 1966 …
        also the Waitaki
        The Upper Waitaki hydro scheme began in 1968 in response to New Zealand’s increased need for power.
        Huntley
        The Huntley Thermal Power Station is highly visible to travelers on State Highway One between Auckland and Hamilton. The power station was built from 1973 to 1983 and was designed to burn both coal and gas. From the late 1960s, as commercially viable sites for further hydro-electricity development were becoming scarce, government power
        So Huntley planned in the 60’s
        ie Kirk was not instrumental in any of these projects.
        
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        April 2, 2023 5:13pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Labour left the economy in the doldrums for 10 years
    
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    April 2, 2023 11:37am
- surfing
  
  Just last night, I asked my son to read Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.
  
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  April 3, 2023 8:48am
Captain Mainwaring

Well done Sharon Murdoch. You hit the nail on the head.
You must have seen the post I made yesterday.
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April 2, 2023 8:02am
- Lance
  
  Good grief… that’s actually funny
  
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  April 2, 2023 12:05pm
  - I remember when
    
    Two in a row that were actually promising.
    
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    April 2, 2023 2:04pm
Warren

While am not a Andrea Vance fan you can’t fault her article on Stuff this morning.
Labour , the Prime Minister and Stuart Nash all knew what Jacinda Ardern the former Prime Minister promised the Country when Winston Peter’s decided he would go into Coalition with Labour in 2017 as the Government.
One of the first things the Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced was they would be the most honest and transparent Government in history at look what we have, absolutely the opposite, so this Labour Government have lied and abused the system since day one and have got away with without our corrupt media taking them to task.
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April 2, 2023 8:05am
- Local Miller
  
  is the worm turning?
  
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  April 2, 2023 8:13am
  - The worm that turned
    
    Yes..
    
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    April 2, 2023 8:58am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Hahahagaha, where did you come from 😃
      
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      April 2, 2023 10:14am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  NZ Govt is a swamp, just like the US swamp.
  Take note Hipkins, this swamp will be drained.
  
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  April 2, 2023 8:18am
  - kowtow
    
    Drained ?
    
    Sadly they’ll just change the colour of the water .
    
    Whenever real change beckons the Deep State Establishment unite to prevent it .
    
    Trump found that as did Liz Truss and Tony Abbott.
    
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    April 2, 2023 8:42am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The whole Public Sector needs to be sacked, the re-employed on a performance and qualification basis. The decades old deadwood collecting an income for doing nothing should be gone. Some have been there since pre 1970.
      
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      April 2, 2023 9:19am
      - Master Mariner
        
        In my mind its simple,
        Work out certain criteria for the tasks in a group .
        Pyschometric test accordingly for the best Team players and results.
        Pretty simple if the “will” was there.
        
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        April 2, 2023 9:50am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Some have been there since pre 1970
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        Yeah, nah. 1970 is 53 years ago. Hard to imagine any public servant still at the desk front at age 69+ having started as a cadet, or 74+ having started as a graduate.
        
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        April 2, 2023 4:56pm
  - Nickc2
    
    The trouble is Steve, the swamp’s full of Taniwha and they’re not in the Govt.
    Their lairs are in our Universities and the system’s been set up whereby their fodder (cash) will be forthcoming from the Taxpayer forevermore.
    Currently, they wallow in the shit that surrounds Govt and when this Govt is no longer, they will wallow in their own shit turning out new radical Taniwha to spread their venom in schools and society in general.
    Already, these Taniwha have infiltrated and taken control of Local Govt, our Water Infrastructure and associated management of it. They currently want (and will be given) more Radio and TV stations which will be used to facilitate the spreading of even more venom and demands paid for by the NZ Taxpayer.
    All this has been enabled by Ardern and is being carried on by Hipkins and his Maori Caucus.
    
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    April 2, 2023 8:45am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      http://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi will explain it.
      
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      April 2, 2023 9:24am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  To be fair to Labour, I don’t think they’ve claimed to be open and honest for a while now. 😉
  
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  April 2, 2023 8:28am
  - Matt Long
    
    That’s right, since their minister for open government was forced to resign for covering things up at the start of Ardern’s travesty IIRC.
    
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    April 2, 2023 8:46am
  - pdm
    
    Devious and deceitful is more their mantra these days.
    
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    April 2, 2023 9:28am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes because they know they are openly laughed at on that point
    
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    April 2, 2023 10:15am
  - Paulus
    
    Well not this last week anyhow !
    
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    April 2, 2023 1:50pm
- Albert_Ross
  
  Honourable mention also to Damien Grant’s piece on free speech
  
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  April 2, 2023 9:04am
- Lummox
  
  I watched Maxine on TV last night. Based on the investigation of murderer Ian Huntley in the UK in 2001.
  One of the two journalists featured suggested hacking phones, and paying large sums to get the story. In this dramatisation she has an Irish accent and looks a bit like Andrea Vance.
  Just a coincidence? Who knows?
  
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  April 2, 2023 10:12am
- mogg
  
  “This was an administration obsessed with keeping an iron grip on the control of information, despite farting out promises to be the most open, honest, and transparent in history”
  It has been clear for a long time that Labour’s promises are not worth the paper they are written on.
  
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  April 2, 2023 10:34am
- Paulus
  
  But it would appear that Vance was blaming the Politicians, but she forgot to suggest that the so called media, of which she is part, should take a large part of reponsibilty for the current debacles
  
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  April 2, 2023 1:35pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    She still thinks Journalists are the heroes of this sorry saga:
    
    But more often than not these are exposed not by checks and balances in the systems that are supposed to prevent corruption, but by accident or the work of journalists.
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131659127/cock-up-over-conspiracy-there-is-a-more-obvious-explanation-to-the-stuart-nash-scandal
    
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    April 2, 2023 1:55pm
BarryB

Im thinking of send the PM a letter —

Dear PM,
What the hell is going on?
Keir Starmer says that “for 99.9 % of women its completely biological ….and of course they haven’t got a penis” according to the Sunday Times.

Another paper says “Keir Starmer says ‘vast majority’ of women ‘don’t have a penis’ and need safe spaces.

Only a few days ago we had a visitor to this country saying the same thing and one of your ministers said he would prefer “If she never set foot in this country” – Im sure that really got all of New Zealands women really excited – negatively. While you yourself did nothing and said nothing that would persuade the mentally and gender confused from attacking – verbally and physically – anyone standing up for women’s rights.
What is happening? Surely honesty and decency hasn’t broken out?
And whats wrong with Starmer? only a few days ago he couldnt answer the question- “what is a woman?”

Im confused……………
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April 2, 2023 8:06am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  You’re confused? Look at what you have done to the PM with your first sentence.
  
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  April 2, 2023 8:20am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  Kellie Jay Keen is running against Keir Starmer in his electorate at the coming general election. She can’t beat him of course but it will be entertaining 😂
  
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  April 2, 2023 8:34am
  - mogg
    
    She is doing it so that she can demand answers to questions that he would rather avoid. At the moment he wants to have his cake and eat it.
    
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    April 2, 2023 8:42am
  - Surely Knott
    
    If Starmer’s changing his position, from not knowing what a woman was and now is speaking up for women and admitting biology matters, in response to Kelly Jay-keen running against him ….then she’s all ready won.
    
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    April 2, 2023 8:46am
- The Other Enoch
  
  Seems like you might be bouncing around a wee bit?
  
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  April 2, 2023 8:57am
- Albert_Ross
  
  Please ask somebody else to read it through before you send it. Your point is confused and unclear
  
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  April 2, 2023 9:08am
- Ghost
  
  Out of interest do you think the prime minister will care, give you a hint, his staff wont even pass it on to him.
  
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  April 2, 2023 9:17am
- andrew davies
  
  Gotta love this lady
  https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/04/01/winsome-sears-smacks-down-bill-mahar-guest-claiming-nashville-transgender-shooter-is-being-misgendered-n724944
  
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  April 2, 2023 10:09am
- Philview
  
  All over the NZ media this weekend about a dangerous woman on the loose. I wish the media would cut this BS.
  
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  April 2, 2023 1:23pm
Monty

Thought on the Nash-crash. If Hipkins did not ask his Office if any knew of any other issues with Nash then Hipkins is utterly incompetent. There was a rumour circulating about Nash well over a year ago. To me it is obvious that this Nash-crash is a cover up. There are more. I also understand there is a hidden scandal in respect on another minister brewing. Labour is a deceitful government and are being found out.
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April 2, 2023 8:07am
- Tony Stuart
  
  When Winston Peters stated after Jacinda’s resignation there was some damaging stuff that would come out around March/April, was this what he was referring to? Or are there some even worse revelations still to come?
  
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  April 2, 2023 8:13am
  - Monty
    
    If I was National I would be looking into the correspondence of other loud mouthed arrogant Ministers. There are a few. If National can find somehow another example of a cover-up then it will expose truely the rot within the Labour government
    
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    April 2, 2023 8:24am
    - Positan
      
      Monty, you’d better shout it louder !!! If someone who knew what they were doing was leading National your point of view would’ve been already underway !!!
      
      So too, assurances would’ve been forthcoming that as soon as they gained office, they’d set up a commission to investigate the wrongdoings and excesses of the Arder/Hipkins government – with intent to prosecute.
      
      Under Luxon, it’ll never happen.
      
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      April 2, 2023 8:55am
      - hullkiwi
        
        What do you have to back up your statement about Luxon. Repeating unsupported anti-Luxon sentiment that eminates from the Labour Party makes your comment look as stupid as it is.
        
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        April 2, 2023 9:19am
      - Colville
        
        hullkiwi.
        More than that, having Luxon barking at parked cars and being unable to prove statements would severely damage him in the publics eyes and distract from what is going on.
        
        Why would Luxon make ANY risky statements currently when Labour are fucking themselves so perfectly??
        
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        April 2, 2023 5:13pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      I think you will find when Nash is done then the next crook will surface
      
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      April 2, 2023 10:27am
  - Philview
    
    I don’t think that story was big enough to bring her down. Interesting if there is more to come. Meanwhile Labour are working against time to get into the public sphere the chain of decision making on Pike River prosecutions. Will the public care if political decisions were made by people who have left parliament.
    
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    April 2, 2023 8:26am
    - pdm
      
      `Meanwhile Labour are working against time to get into the public sphere the chain of decision making on Pike River prosecutions.’
      
      Will the Greens be included in that prosecution?
      
      After all it was to be an Open Cast Mine before they intervened and then limited the number of `air chutes’ (or whatever they are called in mines).
      
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      April 2, 2023 9:33am
      - Master Mariner
        
        Exactly PDM. Fully agree and is the “Root cause” of Pike River.
        
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        April 2, 2023 9:55am
      - septic skeptic
        
        NZOG never even did the sums on the economics of open cast at Pike River. The proposal was always an underground mine.
        
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        April 2, 2023 10:57am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Septic – NZOG NZ Oil & Gas?
        
        I think you have the wrong fossil fuel company.
        
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        April 2, 2023 4:59pm
      - septic skeptic
        
        NMTB. Yes, NZOG. Owned and developed the mine before spinning it off into a separate company, PRC.
        
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        April 2, 2023 6:19pm
    - pdm
      
      septic – are you sure?
      
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      April 2, 2023 2:04pm
      - septic skeptic
        
        I think the confusion arises from environmentalist objections to the number of ventilation holes proposed during the consenting process. Impact on the (in)famous snails etc.
        But extra vent holes is a long way from open cast. That was never proposed and AFAIK NZOG never even considered the economics of removing overburden as an open cast coalmine was never going to get consent in a National Park.
        
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        April 2, 2023 6:28pm
  - kowtow
    
    Er, Winston pointing the finger !
    Pot kettle and all that .
    
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    April 2, 2023 8:39am
    - septic skeptic
      
      The devil can cite scripture to his purpose.
      
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      April 2, 2023 9:20am
  - Matt Long
    
    TS, interesting that Winston could claim to know the timeline for the release of damaging information.
    That suggest he holds the information and is managing it’s release. I hope so as Winston drip feeding information is a great show.
    
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    April 2, 2023 9:57am
  - DimChappie
    
    Yes I was also thinking about Winston’s prediction. Here is a link and transcript:
    
    Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMYcgol-oeI
    
    Transcript: Winston: When you say should there be an early election, they say turkeys don’t vote for an early Christmas so to speak.
    There are developing circumstances which will quite possibly mean there will be a much earlier election than October 14.
    
    Sean P: What circumtsances?
    
    Winston: You’ll have to wait and see them unfold. But there is enough going wrong with the Labour Party, there’s enough that has been kept away from the public scrutiny and the lack of questions from the mainstream media.
    But when those things emerge, and you will see them from March onwards, it will become very very clear to a whole lot of people in the Labour caucus that they too, themselves have been misled.
    
    Sean P: You are teasing now Winston, be specific.
    
    Win: I can but I am not doing it now. Open and transparent is when you open your mouth and I have not opened it on that matter.
    If you are calling for a snap election now, the chances of that are zero. I’m saying that there are developing circumstances where that may well happen.
    
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    April 2, 2023 5:21pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  [Mod – because this is a case before the courts and with name suppression we’ll just leave this alone please]
  
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  April 2, 2023 10:26am
Warren

https://i.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131659127/cock-up-over-conspiracy-there-is-a-more-obvious-explanation-to-the-stuart-nash-scandal
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April 2, 2023 8:10am
- JJ56
  
  Vance skates around the most obvious reason why this isn’t a stuff up.
  
  Ducking the OIA was a minor issue, it is the contents of the letter that is the smoking cannon.
  
  Of course the PM would have been told immediately that Nash was breaching collective cabinet confidentiality/responsibilities – unless of course it was already common knowledge to her and this was also well known in the PMO.
  
  That as they say would be another story.
  
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  April 2, 2023 12:11pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Posie Parker will return to NZ. Good, she knows she has supporters here. The Albert Park bullshit will never happen again. The transistors will be outnumbered.
Gave Hipkins a dose of borax too!

“We are going to win this war, women and then I will come back,” Parker said on Twitter.

She then said she expects Prime Minister Chris Hipkins to make an “all-out apology to everyone”.

“I mean he will apologise and if it’s not him it will be the next Prime Minister because he is not going to last, he’s a gutless coward,”

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/i-will-come-back-anti-transgender-activist-posie-parker-says-she-ll-return-to-nz-attacks-gutless-coward-hipkins/ar-AA19lh9d
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April 2, 2023 8:10am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  She is planning a Canadian tour later this year. She said the other day that she now has doubts that she will be allowed in to the country. The trans activists will point to the Auckland event. “See she is a nazi and caused a riot” ☹️
  
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  April 2, 2023 8:40am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I would say the Police caused the riot by nor separating the protestors from the supporters, and not separating all from the rotunda.
    The Police did this for the low down media – to ‘make’ news.
    Whoever held the Police back is to blame – Gary Davey and then Coster.
    
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    April 2, 2023 9:49am
    - stiff cheese
      
      Correct.. Their deliberate inaction was a signal to the mob to deploy the “Thug’s Veto”.
      
      They only shifted their arses after Posie was ushered through the heaving mob by supporters. And then they got her out of the country ASAP…. As if the majority view is now too toxic to be heard in a ‘modern’ country.
      
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      April 2, 2023 3:31pm
    - JohnRidd
      
      It certainly played a part but it looks like they were instructed to stay back. I think the person who gave the order shares responsibility with the politicians and news media who spread the lies about kjk being a fascist, transphobe and anti Trans activist.
      
      Had the general public known the truth about her position, there would not have been any conflict. That is why it was important to prevent her from speaking.
      
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      April 2, 2023 5:40pm
- Widogast Corwin
  
  The episode damaged New Zealand’s reputation. Made worse by naming the organiser of the riot New Zealander of the Year.
  
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  April 2, 2023 9:31am
Jethrod

Hello Captain,
I see you here with all your mates!
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April 2, 2023 8:10am
- DimChappie
  
  What are you talking about? Who is this Captain please?
  
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  April 2, 2023 10:37pm
Grunter

I see Hipkins yesterday has doubled down on COVID jab (or is that triple downed??) I wonder if he has looked at all the jab injury data from around the world? Or the stats from the UK that show the following:
For 50-59 yr olds, it takes 43,600 booster shots to reduce COVID hospitalisations by 1. But the jab serious injury rate is 1 in 800. So more injuries by about 50x.
Maybe Hipkins didn’t do maths at school??
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April 2, 2023 8:11am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  There will be some terrified elderly folk who are about to line up for their 5th shot.
  
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  April 2, 2023 8:41am
  - Flossie
    
    Not this elderly Folk!
    
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    April 2, 2023 8:45am
  - Matt Long
    
    And Millennials and people with various borderline personalities.
    
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    April 2, 2023 8:53am
- kevn
  
  @Grunter… Probably just took the saline jab option. He and Verral can’t be that silly. Just a virtue signal.
  
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  April 2, 2023 8:51am
  - Opie
    
    My thoughts too. Imagine if you could actually prove it was only saline
    
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    April 2, 2023 10:53am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Math at school? I think all of Labour did Math at school but the trouble is, they just can’t understand it. There seems to be this roving decimal point.
  
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  April 2, 2023 9:52am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They certainly appear to not know what 1+1 is
    
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    April 2, 2023 10:32am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The difference between a million and a billion is three zeros.
      As zeros have no value, there is no extra cost.
      AOC.
      
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      April 2, 2023 11:27am
      - RichardX
        
        Steve Otto(North Shore)
        The difference between a million and a billion is three zeros.
        As zeros have no value, there is no extra cost.
        AOC.
        APRIL 2, 2023 11:27AM
        
        Is this an example of your sense of humour?
        
        Either you know it was never said by AOC and so you are attempting humour or you are suffer from an inability to tell fact from fiction.
        
        Given the content of some of your other posts, I believe it to be the latter but you could make a definitive statement either way to remove doubt.
        
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        April 2, 2023 1:32pm
      - RightNow
        
        Triggered lol
        
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        April 2, 2023 1:54pm
      - sirknz
        
        Hope she sees your comment RichardX…
        
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        April 2, 2023 3:32pm
Master Mariner

https://dailysceptic.org/2023/03/30/whopping-82-of-berlins-voters-refuse-to-support-net-zero-2030-as-referendum-fails/#comments
With this in mind, Why do we not have a referendum?
With the War in Ukraine and the result of high inflation the Germans understand the reality of net zero 2030.
Unfortunately in NZ it will take there being no food or fuel available/un affordable before reality sets in.
In a nutshell, A scorched Earth policy orcastrated by foreign un elected fruit loops.
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April 2, 2023 8:13am
- hullkiwi
  
  Not only Germany, but also Switzerland.
  
  However, in Switzerland a referendum rejecting the proposal, has not deterred a group of elderly Swiss woman who are trying to get the referendum result over turned in the European Court of Justice.
  
  Their grounds for the action, the suffer from asthma, and they claim the warming temperatures caused by climate change is a danger to their health and survival. However, there is no real evidence, just supposition on what might happen!
  
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  April 2, 2023 9:30am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    They’re elderly. They ain’t going to survive. Has no one told them ?
    
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    April 2, 2023 5:02pm
- Wayne Mapp
  
  Well, Net zero 2030 would be ludicrous. Utterly unattainable in just 7 years, and the public knows that. You would get the same result here.
  It doesn’t invalidate NetZero 2050, which is 27 years away. Enough time to make very major changes.
  For instance, it is enough time for the great bulk of the vehicle fleet to be emission free. If the import of pure ICE cars stops from 2035 onward, there would be a 50% change in the vehicle fleet from 2035 to 2050. And that would be on top of the significant change in the vehicle fleet that will occur between now and 2035. I would also expect that the entire bus fleet and a very large percentage of the truck fleet will be EV (or hydrogen) by 2050.
  
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  April 2, 2023 9:48am
  - Matt Long
    
    Or 5he power grid will have collapsed along with food and transportation and the deplorables might just say; being cold, poor, and hungry isn’t really working for us.
    Maybe we were better off using what resources we have intelligently.
    
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    April 2, 2023 10:01am
    - Matt Long
      
      https://youtube.com/shorts/brr3QWUpH6w?feature=share
      Jordan Peterson asks how much deprivation we are willing to suffer and how much deprivation we are willing for our children to suffer for a non solution to saving the planet.
      
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      April 2, 2023 1:37pm
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      The whole intent of National’s latest policy announcement is to boost electricity production. Part of the policy overall package.
      
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      April 2, 2023 3:15pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    Fair enough Wayne,
    However I think the reality of High heating costs and lack of energy security ( And by default Job and Food security ) resulted in this high ( 82 %) result.
    Good to see.
    
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    April 2, 2023 10:02am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Don’t disagree Wayne. It who is going to pay the most?
    
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    April 2, 2023 10:49am
    - Paulus
      
      Those who actually pay tax as a positive conclusion.
      
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      April 2, 2023 1:53pm
  - septic skeptic
    
    Wayne and other politicians have a moral obligation to explain to the public what a 50% change in the vehicle fleet will actually look like. It is not remotely credible that cheapest EVs or whatever alternative there is will be available in sufficient numbers. So the bulk of the population will have to forgo private transport. They can catch a bus, bike or bloody well walk!
    
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    April 2, 2023 11:05am
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      2050 is 27 years away. Plenty of time for a complete revolution in the car industry. It is already well on the way, with a number of cheaper EVs now available. Many are now between $40 and $50k. It won’t be long before EVs (new) will be in the $30k range.
      
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      April 2, 2023 3:19pm
  - Widogast Corwin
    
    Two questions.
    
    Is there any analysis of the generation capacity required to electrify the entire light transport fleet? Is that capacity compatible with Chris Luxon’s stated objective of 100 percent renewables? What will be the impact of such capacity on power prices? By “analysis” I mean expert analysis by generation experts.
    
    Secondly, how are you going to plant enough trees to offset agriculture emissions? After 20 years of research there has been little progress in materially reducing dairy emissions. There is some promise in GM rye grass to reduce methane. However there is still a ban on its use in New Zealand.
    
    I appreciate your commitment to net zero in 2050. However I am asking reasonable questions. The answers matter. If we can only get to net zero by halving the dairy herd, what will that do to our standard of living?
    
    I could go on. To summarise, had anyone modelled your end game in 2050 for it’s technical feasibility and it’s impact on living standards?
    
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    April 2, 2023 11:06am
    - mawm
      
      It’s all fairies and unicorns at the bottom of the garden.
      
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      April 2, 2023 4:59pm
  - alloytoo
    
    Why Wayne why?
    
    Why should we virtual signal our way into economic and energy poverty and leave ourselves unable to adapt to the coming ice age?
    
    Wind and solar are a joke, they will never meet our energy requirement. Germany has already proven that. However unlike Germany we cannot borrow our short fall from more sensible neighbors.
    
    Modular nuclear power is our best energy option.
    
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    April 2, 2023 12:58pm
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      Modular nuclear may be a future option. It will be post 2050. There is only one (Hitachi) certified so far. I would say NZ would need to see 20 years of safe operation of modular nuclear before we would say “OK”.
      Modular won’t be common in the usual nations till the 2030’s. Add another 20 years safe operation before NZ buys into it. Maybe planing for the first few in the mid 2040’s to come online in the 2050’s.
      
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      April 2, 2023 3:26pm
  - pussycat
    
    Wayne, you do realize there is absolutely no science behind net zero.
    https://principia-scientific.org/top-nasa-climate-modeler-admits-predictions-mathematically-impossible/
    https://mailchi.mp/67d487cfbcd1/ipccs-greenhouse-narrative-is-becoming-implausible-eminent-climate-scientist-says-191331?e=4db8dee92f
    
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    April 2, 2023 2:10pm
  - Chris Nisbet
    
    Wouldn’t the citizens need to keep voting for a government that wants to inject itself into practically every aspect of our lives for the next quarter century or so?
    
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    April 2, 2023 4:22pm
  - JohnRidd
    
    Hi Wayne.
    
    You need to find someone to explain the numbers for you.
    
    Net zero, without a dramatic drop in standard of living, is not going to happen. Not by 2050 nor 2100.
    Not without us discovering that our understanding of physics is completely wrong.
    
    It could be done if we introduce a stalinistic command and control economy,
    
    Think ploughing fields with horses rather than tractors. Think gulags. Think mass starvation.
    
    Over the last 30 years, hundreds of billions of dollars have been spent on wind and solar electricity generation. This has meant that between 3 and 4 % of the world’s energy now comes from wind and solar. Of course, wind and solar generation only lasts about 25 years so these will need to be replaced.
    
    If we spend hundreds of billions more over the next few years, we might get up to 7 or 8 percent by 2050.
    
    You can pass a law banning the sale of new ICE vehicles.
    You can pass a law requiring that the number of mines for rare earth elements increase.
    
    But it will not happen.
    
    The laws of physics and the laws of economics say no.
    
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    April 2, 2023 8:32pm
    - Chris Nisbet
      
      I get the impression Wayne is good with the command and control thing.
      
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      April 3, 2023 5:15am
- kowtow
  
  Interesting , particularly as Berlin is famously ( or infamously) “progressive”.
  
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  April 2, 2023 11:06am
cas

With all these people suggesting a wealth tax, capital gains tax and don’t give money to rich superannuitants , I haven’t seen anyone suggest a discount for people like me ( I am not rich incidentally) who didn’t have kids. We have saved the taxpayer thousands of dollars by not using the education or health system for kids and not needing wrap around services if the kids had gone feral.

Surely we should be getting money back.
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April 2, 2023 8:24am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Doesn’t work like that cas. Your job is to produce taxpayers and you have failed.
  
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  April 2, 2023 8:46am
  - pdm
    
    Capt – under the current government producing beneficiaries is far more important. You need to listen more to Carmel Sepuloni.
    
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    April 2, 2023 9:38am
    - Master Mariner
      
      Yep, The high rise apartment building under the Soviet controlled Blocs were translated as “rabbit warrens” .
      Breeding colonies for workers.
      
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      April 2, 2023 10:05am
      - Taieri
        
        The high rise apartment building under the Soviet controlled Blocs were translated as “rabbit warrens” .
        Breeding colonies for workers
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        Not quite. There’s a very big mixture of people living in these buildings mainly due to to shortage of accommodation. As a result you would have a shop assistant living next door to an university professor or a carpenter living right next to a surgeon.
        
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        April 2, 2023 2:54pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    No. His job is not to produce taxpayers, but to produce poor, welfare dependent Labour voters
    
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    April 2, 2023 9:57am
- Its only I
  
  I use the same argument when dealing with those who don’t like my diesel truck. The amount of fad pollutants I have prevented by not having sprogs puts me into credit.
  
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  April 2, 2023 9:01am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Yep. I don’t have a dog, which is why I can run my Rangie with a clear conscience.
    
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    April 2, 2023 5:05pm
Chuck Bird

This is worth an hour’s viewing. It is about these sick people targeting young teenagers.

Science, the Transgender Phenomenon, and the Young | Abigail Shrier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWbxIFC0Q2o
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April 2, 2023 8:29am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  Indeed. Girls who used to be called ‘tomboys’, many of whom grew up to be happily gay women, are now being pumped with testosterone and having their breasts amputated.
  
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  April 2, 2023 8:37am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Or grew up to be heterosexual women, who are happily married with 3 kids Widogast.
    
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    April 2, 2023 10:51am
    - Widogast Corwin
      
      Yes indeed. I should have made it clear that not all ‘tomboy’ girls end up as gay women.
      
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      April 2, 2023 12:48pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

How long before this shit starts here? You can bet the Greens are onto this.
Joe Biden is an idiot. The Whitehouse stoves will stay. Dr Jill cooks on a gas stove.
Sunday markets use gas burners. Night market at Highbury – no gas.
DOE want to get rid of 50%. Still available to buy, but must have 1 HIR burner and continuous cast iron grates, whatever that means.

https://redrightdaily.com/biden-preps-to-ban-50-of-all-gas-stoves/
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April 2, 2023 8:41am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  It has already started. The Climate Change Commission recommended a phased end to gas, starting with a ban on gas connections in new builds.
  
  Utterly ridiculous. 100 percent of chefs cook on gas. Massive use of gas in the food processing sector. As usual no analysis of the impact on the economy and society of banning gas.
  
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  April 2, 2023 9:27am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Now who was it that banned gas exploration? Someone who did not analise the impact on the economy. A mystery to me.
    
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    April 2, 2023 10:01am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Yep, Can anyone remember TV1 had a BBQ useing Hydrogen ? After the Banning of Oil and Gas.
    
    I bet the Insurers and Firefighters ( Bomb disposal) where not too happy.
    
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    April 2, 2023 10:08am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Need electricity to make hydrogen. Then to store it is another issue.
      
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      April 2, 2023 11:32am
  - Paulus
    
    Why do you think that the Climate Change Commission care as to whether cooks cook with gas.
    
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    April 2, 2023 1:55pm
Its only I

If you are rural, dealing with shyt internet and don’t have much chance of network upgrades coming anytime soon, Starlink is $199 for the hardware at the moment.
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April 2, 2023 8:48am
- Colville
  
  I have it.
  
  Great for download but shit for up.
  
  BUT… all you need is power and you have it. After the cyclone and no phone/cell/internet I will never go back to a terrestrial connection.
  
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  April 2, 2023 5:20pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

45th President Donald Trump has reportedly been asking policy advisors about military options to eliminate the Mexican drug cartels, including offensives not sanctioned by the Mexican government.
Trump wants to make good on what he missed when POTUS. He wants to team up with the Mexican Govt and eliminate the Cartels.
So many people are dying from drug overdosing. So many families destroyed.

https://valiantnews.com/2023/03/trump-wants-battle-plans-to-attack-mexico-destroy-cartels-report/
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April 2, 2023 8:54am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stormy Daniels Just Delivered the Bad News.
Phone call records? Records not mentioned to the Courts before?
I can see this Alvin Bragg guy dismissing the charge. He produced 6 pages of evidence from 330 pages.
Trump will walk away from this for sure. Countercharge Daniels and she will pay Trump’s legal fees? Could happen again.

https://thegoptimes.com/stormy-daniels-just-delivered-the-bad-news/
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April 2, 2023 9:00am
- thirteenstars
  
  It’s going to be HUGE.
  
  DT turns up in full party mode with supporters galore. Team Trump will already have the designs and memes made, all ready to drop the mugshot into. T-shirts, posters, coffee mugs. It’ll be like Che Guevara all over again, except morally correct.
  
  When the prosecution is this corrupt getting arrested is a badge of honour. They are martyring Trump.
  
  In the 24 hours following the indictment Trump raised $4 million with a staggering 25% of that from first-time donors.
  
  https://youtu.be/btupDMQBc1Y
  
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  April 2, 2023 10:59am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I have a lot of Trump stuff. Tees, 6 hats, coins, notes even gold plated notes, stickers, bottle opener, a small solar powered Trump doll thing that sits on the dash of my car. It waves! Even a Trump 1 million dollar note.
    About half of this stuff is free, just pay shipping.
    Oh Trump 2024 flag, Stars and Stripes flag – to fly off my spa/bbq deck.
    
    Too hard to get now, the American supporters get most. It is Yuge!
    I want another Old Glory flag, my other one got torn to bits in two storms.
    
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    April 2, 2023 11:42am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Love or hate him, he knows how to sell stuff, he knows marketing very well.
      
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      April 2, 2023 12:58pm
- Paulus
  
  Listen well – Bragg is the first Black New York DA.
  He is highly ambitious and wants to use this to get himself to a high political position -Democrat of course.
  He needs to get Trump for the PR, thence to State position thence Senate to follow his friend O’Bummer.
  
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  April 2, 2023 2:01pm
rockape

Ouch! This is going to burn.
Health workers approximately 270000 of them are getting the errors in backpay for holidays paid to them in July. The error goes back to 2010 and the bill will be in the order of 2 billion dollars or the cost of building a new hospital. I hope Robbo has made allowances for that in his budget. Source of info email from NZNO to wife.
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April 2, 2023 9:04am
- rockape
  
  Also from the Herald “ An estimated 270,000 current and former staff are owed money stretching back to 2010.
  
  Te Whatu Ora did not provide an update on its liability – which last November was almost two billion dollars, double the estimate for 2021.
  
  Interim chief people officer Jim Green said teams across New Zealand were working to recalculate retired and current staff holiday pay “as efficiently as possible, without compromising the process and outcomes”.
  
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  April 2, 2023 9:07am
  - pdm
    
    rockape – should we not call it it’s proper name.
    
    New Zealand Health Board?
    
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    April 2, 2023 9:40am
- Ghost
  
  It’s been known since I think 2019, so I expect they would have been prepared to pay it.
  
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  April 2, 2023 9:09am
  - rockape
    
    The estimate doubled from 2021 to 2022. The hard bit is it has to be paid to all those who have maybe retired in the last 12 years or gone overseas or returned to their own countries . Maybe even just moved jobs. It’s an admin nightmare!
    
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    April 2, 2023 9:16am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Well, the DHBs should have had their IRD numbers. First pass could be a refund to IRD, then available as a tax credit.
      
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      April 2, 2023 5:08pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Will they pay bank interest? Some of us are savers.
    In my 7 year fight with ACC I made them pay interest. They somehow got the idea that they could stop paying me for injury recovery.
    
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    April 2, 2023 10:07am
    - Ghost
      
      We’ll it’s ballooned up , I think it was originally under a billion dollars
      
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      April 2, 2023 10:16am
- virtualmark
  
  It’s due to changing interpretations of how holiday pay for wage earners was/should be calculated. It arose from a court case in, off the top of my head, 2016 or 2017.
  
  It affects a lot of companies and organisations, not just the health sector.
  
  Basically, the employment laws were poorly drafted.
  
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  April 2, 2023 10:49am
  - rockape
    
    Yes it’s due to old leave pay being paid on base rate, not average earnings. My wife’s pay is 125% of base approximately as she works every second weekend and at least half of bank holidays plus she does quite a few night shifts. Every nurse will be different hence the nightmare to sort out. If it’s 2 billion in pay it will probably cost another Billion in pay staff wages to administer. They should have just gone to the union and made a broad brush offer, say two months gross pay per staff member and they could have put this to bed a lot sooner and cheaper.
    
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    April 2, 2023 1:38pm
    - Nickc2
      
      Robin Hood Robertson doesn’t see things logically or how they should be.
      He’s still stuck in the era of Cloth Cap Politics (English style) where screwing the employer is paramount.
      What’s that you say? Oh, that’s right, the Govt is the employer. Remind Robertson of that!
      
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      April 2, 2023 1:45pm
- Paulus
  
  TWO BILLION $ backpay to 2010.
  That one hell of a lot of dough -could cut Child Poverty in one go !
  
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  April 2, 2023 2:04pm
mandk

The comments on Stuff about how Ardern will be rated by history are interesting.

They are running about 80% in favour of the view that she will be rated poorly.

For what it is worth, my view is that she was fake, divisive and incapable of delivering on anything of substance she promised.
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April 2, 2023 9:04am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  You left out ‘good actor.’
  
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  April 2, 2023 10:08am
- Nickc2
  
  IMO, she was/is beneath contempt.
  
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  April 2, 2023 10:17am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

DeSantis Donors Tell Him to Ride the Bench in 2024, Try Again Next Time.
I think this story is distorted. DeSantis has always said to his donors that he would not run for POTUS if Trump ran.

https://therightwingclub.com/thepoliticalmovement/desantis-donors-tell-him-to-ride-the-bench-in-2024-try-again-next-time/
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April 2, 2023 9:10am
Chris2

Just watched the TV One Q+A 20 minute interview with Chris Bishop.

How refreshing, a positive guy that is completely on top of his shadow portfolio responsibilites who could confidently answer every questions put to him.

I am struggling to think of even on Labour or Green MP who present their case as well as Chris Bishop did. Well done.
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April 2, 2023 9:26am
- Chuck Bird
  
  Answers like we are in a climate emergency.
  
  The simple fact is that we need coal for a backup. Would we reduce CO2 if we mined in in Huntly rather than importing it?
  
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  April 2, 2023 10:27am
- Grunter
  
  Jack Tame is such a [Mod – deleted]! His opening statements on renewables “the problem with solar energy is it doesn’t work so well at night….”. Followed by “and wind turbines don’t turn when the wind doesn’t blow….””
  
  No siht Jack!
  
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  April 2, 2023 10:38am
  - kevn
    
    @Grunter… Plus solar panels and turbine blades have about a 20 year life. They are virtually un-recyclable and just go to landfills.
    Poor power generators and polluters in the end.
    
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    April 2, 2023 11:25am
    - Its only I
      
      Solar panels have a life greater than 20 years.
      The 20 year thing comes from manufacturers guaranteeing at least 80% production of a panel from when its new.
      
      From experience of our panels they will go for 40 years and the lithium batteries probably 20+
      
      Not a “greenie” just too far from the grid and like the independance.
      
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      April 2, 2023 3:28pm
      - rockape
        
        Me two. My panels are saving me about 50% of my consumption. Not a Greenie but a Scotsman !
        
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        April 2, 2023 5:23pm
Tasman devil

The next Minister for the chop might be wise to spend more time in Aotearoa.
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April 2, 2023 9:30am
- pdm
  
  Please tell – where is Aotearoa?
  
  Maybe we can send all of New Zealands current Cabinet Ministers there.
  
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  April 2, 2023 9:44am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    R. T. Rower is on the way home from China.
    
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    April 2, 2023 10:09am
Maggy Wassilieff

Over half of the under 18 yr-old folk caught committing retail burglaries never appear in court.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2023/04/exclusive-new-oia-data-reveals-nearly-half-of-retail-burglaries-committed-by-youth-51-pct-don-t-face-court.html
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April 2, 2023 9:33am
- Nickc2
  
  retail burglaries
  Isn’t that the new name Police have given to Ramraids in order to show a decline in Ramraid Statistics?
  
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  April 2, 2023 10:10am
- Taieri
  
  Over half of the under 18 yr-old folk caught committing retail burglaries never appear in court.
  ————
  
  They are just misguided children. They need care. Preferably wrap-around…
  
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  April 2, 2023 10:19am
- MCōs
  
  Most white people who commit rape are never reported to the police and if they are the victim is so traumatized by the defence lawyers it goes no further.
  But I expect you knew that.
  
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  April 2, 2023 8:47pm
MCōs

If National or Labour or anyone other party says they will ban TikTok they will be toast at the election.
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April 2, 2023 9:45am
- MCōs
  
  There are more than a million prolific users in NZ and I doubt if they give a toss where their personal info goes. In fact they probably expect it.
  However if the app suddenly disappears they’ll be right pissed off.
  
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  April 2, 2023 8:52pm
rouppe

Garner opens up.

I know this is likely to be unpopular, but…

Duncan, harden up. This sort of thing happens every day to someone.

I was employed by IBM in 1999 when the INCIS contract was terminated. I’d worked for them for nearly 15 years, not just 1. Meeting at 10am announcing it. Then individual meetings with HR.

What I expected was a move back to the head office before re deploying somewhere else.

What I got was a pink slip. HR flat out refused to facilitate any job change. Not half a days notice. Not an hours notice. Bang, right there.

So my advice is to write some names down for future reference, and move on.
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April 2, 2023 9:49am
- Flossie
  
  Well said. I believe Garner just walked away from the morning TV show he hosted very suddenly, so now the boot is on the other foot it’s a different story.
  
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  April 2, 2023 1:45pm
Nickc2

Is anyone else experiencing problems eith the uptick & downtick buttons? Mine don’t work, no matter what I do.

[Mod – just down ticked you to see, no problems my end]
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April 2, 2023 9:57am
- Nickc2
  
  Yea, problem solved. Too much header info which was fixed by clearing browsing data.
  
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  April 2, 2023 10:27am
Maggy Wassilieff

Graham Adams suggests the Hipkins has lost control of Labour’s relationship with the Woke-Brigade.

In short, Hipkins will be a hostage to the Greens. Voters can see clearly that Hipkins will have to indulge them, simply because he will need them.

https://pointofordernz.wordpress.com/2023/04/01/graham-adams-posie-parker-blows-apart-hipkins-anti-woke-pose/
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April 2, 2023 10:03am
- Nickc2
  
  His blatant protection of Marama Davidson clearly indicated that!
  He’s joined the ranks of lying, deceiving, morally corrupt, and contemptuous PMs NZ has experienced.
  Any thought of his Govt being re-elected must be rejected no matter what the cost.
  
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  April 2, 2023 10:36am
  - blue collar
    
    He’s toast . No one even voted him in , he’s not “our” prime minister .
    Despite the fact labour are doomed .
    
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    April 2, 2023 11:15am
- mogg
  
  That is a very concise summing up of Hipkins & co blundering into a minefield of their own making.
  He has not said that for some time polls are showing that Labour will also need the Māori party support to be re-elected. Greens and Māori party surely have to be the kiss of death.
  
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  April 2, 2023 11:08am
  - Paulus
    
    Remember the Minefield was made during out great Princesses time, before she saw it coming, and ran.
    
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    April 2, 2023 2:07pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Isn’t it strange that Nicky Hager, Golriz Ghahramen and co haven’t raised a stink about the New Spy centre in Auckland?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/131661727/government-has-been-secretly-building-a-300m-data-centre-at-an-auckland-air-force-base
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April 2, 2023 10:10am
- kowtow
  
  I thought you were referring to the secret CCP police station.
  
  The one no one in te media pardy are interested in.
  Or anyone else it would seem.
  
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  April 2, 2023 11:15am
- Paulus
  
  It is a secure Data Centre only, and will be used by a number of organisations requiring high security.
  
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  April 2, 2023 2:08pm
freemark

https://umbrellanews.com.au/featured/2023/03/how-the-hermit-kingdom-became-the-worlds-control-group-for-the-largest-vaccination-trial-ever/

Western Australia. The results are in & not looking good for the jabberjunkies. Official data.
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April 2, 2023 10:21am
- kevn
  
  @free… NZ can’t be far behind in the hermit kingdom stakes/stats.
  
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  April 2, 2023 10:53am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

An expert Maori will be called in to talk to the Mountain (for a fee) and tell us what the Mountain is saying. Fortune Tellers, Crystal Gazing, and Tarot Reading, with the Govt as the Bank?

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/more-co-governance-madness-mt-taranaki-now-classified-as-a-person-no-i-am-not-kidding/
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNdONuC-14k

After getting the cheque, the Mountain said:
” Nice one bro. More money for absolutely nothing. So easy to shaft these dumb Pakeha who believe anything we say!”
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April 2, 2023 10:25am
- blue collar
  
  Still mt egmont to me .
  Not gonna change after half a century just coz others decide to .
  It’s a free country , we can call anything what we like .
  Some would call jacinda competent 😅😅😅 but hey , they can if they want
  
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  April 2, 2023 11:20am
Maggie Pie

Having a chat with a few friends after Mass earlier.

Couldn’t believe how many of them are saying they’re going to get yet another Booster jab. Half of them were even wearing masks again today!

When I asked whether they actually believed the likes of Cindy and Chippy had REALLY been Vaxxed, or only received a saline-injection for the cameras, they looked at me aghast 🙁

Anyway, I’ve just sent them this link to ponder….

https://twitter.com/PearceAlan1962/status/1641559796040998913
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April 2, 2023 10:52am
- kevn
  
  @Maggie… That would apply to to our pollies as well. Betcha.
  
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  April 2, 2023 11:33am
  - blue collar
    
    Yep , remember that batch of saline solution that turned up at a public vax place …must’ve tracked down the batch number that was due for the politicians and their photo/tv marketing campaign
    How did they know it was saline ?
    
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    April 2, 2023 11:39am
    - kevn
      
      @blue… Odd that adverse jab reactions seem to have skipped the higher profile pollies globally.
      Mind you it has been known 2 years or more, that there were jab problems. That data was quite well, but not totally hidden.
      Saved the adverse jab reactions for the uninformed jabbed plebs.
      
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      April 2, 2023 11:47am
- Bridgenag
  
  Actually It is quite distressing to have previously clever fellows still getting boostered and wearing the mask in the plane….ffs No matter how much information is sent to them……. I am now giving up on them. Get the booster with all the health problems…… Wear the silly mask doing no good at all…… Over it…. blokes at bowls say silly to try……..
  
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  April 2, 2023 11:45am
- Bridgenag
  
  When I click onto your twitter links all up or down ticks on the site disappear and I have to redo………..Should I be worried? Also I miss you and Benedict having the odd spat. Hope he is here somewhere.
  
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  April 2, 2023 11:53am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Yes, despite what Benedict thort, I really liked him and the ginga.
    My biggest fear is that he may have fallen foul of the CCP and been silenced in some way? Particularly since I posted on GD that Chynah have ‘secret-police’ stationed here in NZ 🙁
    
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    April 2, 2023 12:21pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Benedict will be reading his. You know he is.
      That is all.
      
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      April 2, 2023 3:20pm
BeaB

We don’t need US-style revenge politics. Now our media are waking up from their Arden ardour, we are starting to see, once again, glimmers of some intelligent analysis. You can bet they’ll go all out on a National government.
Luxon just needs to let them do their work and calmly feed out the facts about the money squandered, the lies told and the promises unkept. The NZ public isn’t stupid. They don’t need to be force-fed. National can let things take their natural course.
The Eye of Sauron is now turning its gaze onto Labour and the mocking response to the second harbour crossing is just the start.
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April 2, 2023 10:59am
Surely Knott

Anyone else been following Soft White Underbelly.

Laura who transitioned to a man and now detransitioned, is the most eloquent and self aware person I’ve seen on this issue of Gender. She was autistic, lonely, and had polycystic ovaries (which affects your hormones somewhat). And talks about her journey.
https://www.facebook.com/profile/100059685484304/search/?q=laura
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April 2, 2023 11:24am
Than

I was reading an article on Donald Trump’s indictment, and it raised a very interesting point – if this case goes to trial how would you go about finding an impartial jury? And I think this difficulty would work strongly in Trump’s favour.

Virtually all Americans are aware of Trump and most have an opinion on him one way or the other (often strongly held). I assume the jury verdict would have to be unanimous (or at most might allow for a single dissenter). So all it would take would be one or two jurors who agree with the Republican position that these charges are a witch-hunt, and it would become impossible to secure a conviction. Sure the lawyers on both sides will be screening potential jurors, but finding people who are genuinely impartial is going to be tough.
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April 2, 2023 11:30am
Tasman devil

Posey Parker is Ginny Anderson with a blonde wig.

Compare their photos on Newshub.

The evidence is undeniable.
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April 2, 2023 11:31am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Links please.
  Go to Newshub is a place to avoid.
  Scroll through to get that? Come on ozzy Devil!
  
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  April 2, 2023 3:25pm
- Ghost
  
  Are you sure Ginny Anderson isn’t Simon bridges in a wig?
  
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  April 2, 2023 3:28pm
Tasman devil

This will soon become a bread and butter issue.
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April 2, 2023 11:44am
Caine9

I’m getting heartily sick of the label “Far Right” being attached to anything that dare challenge or be different to academic elitist thinking. Such woke thinking being the standard that we contra at our peril.
When do we start talking about Far Left?
The greedy grasshopper mentality that is funded by government at our expense.
The shutting down of debate and discussion. That’s vastly more dangerous than those who hold a different opinion.
Are we too far down this path, or is it time we started fighting back against this twisted narrative?
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April 2, 2023 11:50am
- Brian McDonald
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  I love these calls to arms by anonymous posters, they probably feel that it is the bravest thing they’ve done in their lives. Way to go bro.
  
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  April 2, 2023 12:24pm
  - JimBobJoe
    
    When you had your call to arms moment didnt someone die?
    
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    April 2, 2023 2:15pm
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    Explain why it is brave of you to post under your real name?
    
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    April 2, 2023 5:09pm
- [email protected]
  
  You can start doing your part by writing letters to the editors of magazines and newspapers. It’s free.
  
  Then you can start contributing financially to Voices For Freedom, ACT, DemocracyNZ, Vision NZ, etc.
  
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  April 2, 2023 12:58pm
  - Mike
    
    But most of all, join a church that demands tithes.
    
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    April 2, 2023 1:41pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  K9, you missed extreme far right.
  Where are ‘Batman’ and ‘Mike types?
  Good troll K9, the results will come in soon. 🙂
  
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  April 2, 2023 3:30pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Wrongdoers should be punished.
  Good one Brain.
  
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  April 2, 2023 3:32pm
Maggie Pie

Just in:

The Horrid reports…

‘NUMBER OF SHOTS FIRED AT BLACK POWER HEADQUARTERS’

LOL!
Reminds me of the joke…what do you call a Maori sitting in a tree?

The Branch Manager 😀 😀 😀
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April 2, 2023 12:31pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, or as well..waiting for a state house.
  
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  April 2, 2023 12:47pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Got a hat and coat?
  
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  April 2, 2023 12:49pm
Swifty

Poverty in New Zealand:

https://www.facebook.com/Timespanner/posts/pfbid02orpUY4FdvpNFw9WrZjoDZf8CT8z7fTikfkrXtokNumhsxJviGnHZbxWJT7uXrW35l

https://www.facebook.com/Timespanner/posts/pfbid02xaTnMeKG7rySu8hoED7e5P4Wv4AxnJvPCEPLBMajzRYcmNJaVNbMoeqhvCK8ASGel

https://www.facebook.com/Timespanner/posts/pfbid05Xn3zYMHT5wngpV2ivARaWsiFj5HzpstdiKfep3PCmyf3iWAaCiF7NYWFA8n8yHal

https://www.facebook.com/Timespanner/posts/pfbid05Xn3zYMHT5wngpV2ivARaWsiFj5HzpstdiKfep3PCmyf3iWAaCiF7NYWFA8n8yHal
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April 2, 2023 12:35pm
- Tom Hunter
  
  Thanks for that Swifty. My Mum and Dad said they were fine as long as they had a job, a roof over their heads, a bed and three squares a day.
  
  I try to remember their gratitude every day.
  
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  April 2, 2023 3:20pm
  - Mike
    
    These days, Mum and Dad need a job each to make ends meet. Good economy measures though, Tom Hunter’s family all sleeping in the one bed.
    
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    April 2, 2023 5:53pm
- Swifty
  
  Please also note that this was 1952, and if DG is correct it immediately preceded 1953 when there was not a single murder in NZ. Not one (again according to DG).
  
  So, no link between poverty and (violent) crime then.
  
  Rather inconvenient for current lefties isn’t it?
  
  Sort of blows their main contention out of the water doesn’t it?
  
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  April 2, 2023 6:11pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump (again!)
A little leftist satire. Thing is, they don’t know they are giving him publicity. Trump 2024.
https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1641916432697966598
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April 2, 2023 1:01pm
Maggie Pie

Looks like ‘KiwiBank’ New-Zealander-of-the-Year has been scrambling to delete his/her disgusting racist tweets…..

https://twitter.com/NzFubar/status/1642238910846881792

And the replies – OMG!!
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April 2, 2023 1:30pm
- nathie
  
  Wow check out this one, he’s attacking corporates (even if they appear woke sympathetic), even the NZ Herald (who now publishes him), as well as the NZ Police!
  https://twitter.com/Snowbun85395351/status/1642277461143752704
  
  Also the correct name for the awards are:
  
  KiwiBank Woke New-Zealander-of-the-Year!
  
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  April 2, 2023 1:40pm
  - Ghost
    
    Although he never won the Kiwibank title, he won the Canterbury university one
    
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    April 2, 2023 1:45pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Time to stop splitting hairs Ghost!
      
      Kiwiwank CEO Steve Jerkovich was a Judge, FFS!!
      
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      April 2, 2023 2:24pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Time to stop splitting hairs Ghost!
      
      KiwiBank CEO Steve Jerkovich was a Judge, FFS!!
      
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      April 2, 2023 2:31pm
      - Ghost
        
        One of 12 judges, still doesn’t change the fact that it is then Canterbury university young person of the year.
        
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        April 2, 2023 3:03pm
  - Swifty
    
    “My people….”
    
    What a jerkoff.
    
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    April 2, 2023 2:07pm
- Ghost
  
  Does anyone know what the actual winners “ monumental contributions to astronomy” is? I can’t seem to find anything he has discovered
  
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  April 2, 2023 1:48pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    I think he discovered Matariki was a cool political project. Seems to be right into Lefty politics.
    
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    April 2, 2023 2:09pm
- I remember when
  
  Shaneel Lal awarded ‘Kiwibank’ Young New-Zealander-of-the-Year for his persistence in limited use of variety in his vocabulary.
  
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  April 2, 2023 1:48pm
  - Ghost
    
    No such award, it is University of Canterbury Young New Zealander of the Year
    
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    April 2, 2023 1:50pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I seem to be in a different World – a World full of transistors.
  3 legs you know. Electronic people will know. Like jake the peg……
  
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  April 2, 2023 3:40pm
I remember when

The last thing schools need is National’s dull, narrow curriculum. Newsroom. Opinion.
The danger of National’s policy is that it undoes much of an informal compact with Labour to depoliticise education at a time of real struggle.

Well it is only an opinion.
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April 2, 2023 1:34pm
I remember when

NZ Labour – Let’s keep moving.

Act like you’re an email when there is an OIA request!
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April 2, 2023 1:35pm
Maggie Pie

How would YOU feel if you showed this to your partner of more than a decade, and first thing he says is…. “I would”

https://trib.al/pfmdmIC
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April 2, 2023 2:06pm
- NothingLeft
  
  Seems unlikely, and tabloids will happily lie for clicks. Hips too wide and waist too small for someone who has been through male puberty.
  
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  April 2, 2023 4:39pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Had 4 ribs removed don’t forget.
    
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    April 2, 2023 5:19pm
Southern Raider

Is it Spark, TVNZ or NZC doing the graphics for todays Black Caps game

Just had the scoreboard up and said “Aotereoa” was playing not NZ and statistics of the match keep randomly coming up with Te Reo
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April 2, 2023 2:11pm
- septic skeptic
  
  Must be Maori language week still.
  
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  April 2, 2023 2:24pm
- septic skeptic
  
  Must be Maori language week again.
  
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  April 2, 2023 2:31pm
- MCōs
  
  There’s an alternate commentary in Te Reo.
  Might have something to do with it.
  
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  April 2, 2023 3:26pm
- Gravelroad
  
  And Aotearoa is playing a team called Haranga today.
  Why Sri Lanka would consent to their country’s name being changed publicly to a made up Maori one (if that is what it is) I cannot imagine.
  
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  April 2, 2023 3:38pm
  - Gravelroad
    
    Sorry, it’s Hiraka. Bedda get it right eh.!
    
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    April 2, 2023 3:40pm
    - blue collar
      
      First me mountain now me sport , I like most Māori but can the woke fucks ramming the language down our throats please fuck off ?
      
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      April 2, 2023 4:51pm
  - Ghost
    
    I don’t watch cricket, but mr Google tells me the bowlers name is Pinnaduwage Wanindu Hasaranga de Silva
    
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    April 2, 2023 3:42pm
Maggie Pie

Especially for Ghost….

‘KiwiBank New Zealander of the Year Awards’

SHANEEL LAL

– Winner

https://instagram.com/p/CqZz_1rrFfj/
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April 2, 2023 2:54pm
- Ghost
  
  And what’s it say on the link? “University of Canterbury 2023 Young New Zealander of The Year”. Kiwibank only sponsor two awards, this isn’t one of them. Here are the two winners of the awards Kiwibank sponsor. https://www.kiwibank.co.nz/about-us/community-partnerships/new-zealander-year/.
  
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  April 2, 2023 2:59pm
Taieri

How stupid one need to be to become a PhD student?:

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/hotel-review-ad-looked-ok-student-loses-thousands
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April 2, 2023 2:59pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  ‘Sanjay’ was prepared to write 5 star reviews for hotels he had never visited.
  
  On the basis that the pseudonym ‘Sanjay’ was used because he comes from India, it gives pause for thought about whether the moral compass of people from that part of the world aligns with our own.
  
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  April 2, 2023 5:20pm
Maggie Pie

“AOTEAROA NEED 150 TO WIN”

– Spark Sport TV1 cricket

That was enough for me to leave my partner to it 🙁
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April 2, 2023 3:22pm
- AitchW
  
  Why is Sri Lanka called Hiraka on the TVNZ broadcast? Surely at the very least it should be Hi Ranka? No doubt some native speaker of te reo received a generous koha for the translation…. Or did they “gift” the name?
  
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  April 2, 2023 3:33pm
  - kowtow
    
    it should be Kanapa Motu .
    
    Otherwise everything becomes a simple transliteration with perhaps a heavy dose of faux accenting ( as the media types already do )
    
    That would be fun . But easy .
    
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    April 2, 2023 4:38pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Maori discovered Ceylon too but they didn’t like the tea so they gave Ceylon to the British. //
    
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    April 2, 2023 8:05pm
- septic skeptic
  
  I can’t lose this one, as I support two teams. New Zealand and whoever is playing Aotearoa 🤣🤣
  
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  April 2, 2023 4:13pm
- SmokerGuy
  
  It’s ridiculous, this is an international cricket match so we should be called by our actual name. I’ve nothing against Te Reo but there’s a time and place, it’s being pushed way too far.
  
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  April 2, 2023 4:25pm
  - blue collar
    
    Bang on brother smoker .
    
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    April 2, 2023 4:53pm
- greybeard
  
  Me too.
  This maori crap has to stop.
  
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  April 2, 2023 5:53pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Who gave a bunch of radicals the right to rename my country?
    
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    April 2, 2023 6:01pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The Elite Maori Tyrants.
      
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      April 3, 2023 9:34am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  I have been invited to play in a tournament to raise funds for the cyclone ravaged people on the East Coast and Hawkes Bay. Then I thought; they referred to East Coast and Hawkes Bay rather than Tairawhiti and Ahuriri.
  It’s different when they are trying to get dough off you.
  
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  April 2, 2023 7:34pm
Swifty

Take away the labels and skin colours and confine yourself to looking at the actual events, behaviours and actions and I think you’ll struggle to see much difference between European discovery and what Maori did among themselves.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/131672474/rejection-of-catholic-conquest-and-white-supremacy-law-not-enough-advocate

Conquest, invasion, warfare, slaughter of battlefield survivors, enslavement of the conquered etc were elemental features of pre-contact Maori life.

Are we supposed to not notice this? Are we supposed to just overlook it?

And what’s more I am absolutely convinced that if NZ were just offshore from Oz, Maori would have sallied forth and treated the Aborigines even worse than they treated themselves. They would have thought nothing of sailing into Sydney Harbour and taking it over while pushing out the locals. All their history and behaviour screams to me that this is exactly what they would have done.
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April 2, 2023 4:02pm
- NothingLeft
  
  On average individuals in history are not particularly better or worse in my mind. They were all raised by their cultures to hold certain values and behave in certain ways. People are mostly sheep and pushing back against the status quo generally just gets you murdered.
  
  But certainly some cultures were/are better than others in terms of what they delivered in improved happiness, freedoms, lifestyle and general fairness to their members. No neolithic culture (polynesians included) are very good in that regard – stuck as they were in unchanging brutish lifestyles. But that’s due to their low technological development and fierce competition for food.
  
  To be clear though; before the advent of contraception every culture had to find ways, planned or emergent, of killing off or otherwise preventing the breeding of the 50-70% excess in kids that were born. Wars, gladiatorial combat, religious pogroms, infanticide, famine, illness, religious celibacy, castration, slavery/indentured servitude, religious sacrifices, judicial executions. There was always something, generally extremely unfair to those targeted, and death is always cruel.
  
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  April 2, 2023 4:36pm
- blue collar
  
  Abos would give the Māori a hiding in bush warfare .
  Way way way more in tune with their surroundings , fitter , and better weapons .
  Lucky they didn’t find oz …. Must’ve missed it when discovering Antarctic //
  
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  April 2, 2023 7:47pm
  - Swifty
    
    Maori’s long-term prospects in their Australian invasion activities are irrelevant.
    
    They may have been successful or they may not.
    
    The fact is they would have tried it. Either very strong tribes, seeking even more lands and power or weaker tribes forced to seek new places to live.
    
    Very likely repeatedly and over long durations. And, should they have enjoyed initial or local success they would have kept at it – for generations and until permanent presence was maintained.
    
    It was their culture.
    
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    April 2, 2023 8:06pm
Maggie Pie

BREAKING…

Ghost admits to having millions on TD with KiwiBank.

😀 😀 😀
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April 2, 2023 4:49pm
Ghost

Interesting scam. Scamming people by getting them to ~~scam people~~ write fake reviews

Hotel review scam: Student loses $42k, works 48-hour weekends after putting parents, landlord in debt

NZ Herald
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April 2, 2023 5:11pm
Maggie Pie

And just a reminder for the fam 😀

First-part of DOUBLE episode final of MAFS……

Tonite & tomorrow nite on TV3
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April 2, 2023 5:17pm
- Widogast Corwin
  
  And you are the only commenter here who know what “MAFS” is in the real world.
  
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  April 2, 2023 6:43pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    You’re not getting confused with “MILF” are you Weirdo? 😛
    
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    April 2, 2023 7:08pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

Driveby shooting at Gang HQ. Turns out there were kids there, even though the partying was so loud that the boss man had his ear plugs in. What kind of person brings up his family in a fortified compound?

More importantly, will he phone ahead to check on whether there are kids present before he takes utu & returns fire?

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2023/04/auckland-black-power-boss-mark-pitman-relieved-children-are-okay-following-drive-by-shooting-at-gang-pad.html
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April 2, 2023 5:25pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Had to larf….
  
  My partner’s mum txt earlier to say she saw the HQ was in Jolson St.
  
  She wondered if it was named after Al ?
  
  LOL!!
  
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  April 2, 2023 6:35pm
  - Widogast Corwin
    
    Must be the ultimate insider joke. Only you comprehend it.
    
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    April 2, 2023 6:41pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Bats got it…yet for some reason removed my last reply. How strange 🙁
      
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      April 2, 2023 7:28pm
    - Gravelroad
      
      “Al Jolson was a Lithuanian-American Jewish singer, comedian, actor, and vaudevillian. He was one of the United States’ most famous and highest-paid stars of the 1920s, and was self-billed as “The World’s Greatest Entertainer.” Wikipedia
      He would have been cancelled in today’s world coz – racist.
      
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      April 3, 2023 3:23pm
Ghost

This guy surely can’t be a real president, maybe he’s just a pretend president? Oh well I guess he will never top talking about ice cream before talking about a school shooting

https://twitter.com/jj_talking/status/1641879680163917827
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April 2, 2023 7:10pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Fave tee-shirt @ Trump rally….
  
  “I’ve never been fondled by Donald Trump
  But I have been screwed by Joe Biden”
  
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