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Happy Tourette Syndrome Awareness Day!
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June 7, 2023 8:00am
- mandk
  
  I tell you what, Mike.
  
  I’ll give you an uptick when you proclaim
  Happy Labour Being Shown The Door Day!
  
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  June 7, 2023 8:47am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    4 1/2 months Mike.
    
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    June 7, 2023 10:36am
    - Biscuit
      
      Maybe sooner, Steve.
      
      I don’t hold out MUCH hope of it happening but Chippie & Co MIGHT feel such embarrassment at their performance that they will call it quits and say ‘You know what, we won’t even bother standing for re-election’…
      
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      June 7, 2023 11:08am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        And she ran!!!! knowing the end is coming.
        
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        June 7, 2023 5:47pm
  - Mike
    
    Party like it’s 2008?
    
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    June 7, 2023 10:49am
- David Garrett
  
  Lee C: Very droll sir, very droll…although full on Tourette’s would involved something a little more …piquant…that just one “Fuck You”
  
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  June 7, 2023 8:54am
  - Cassandra
    
    @#£&*%;”(£#. is more like it. But it’s actually not much fun for the sufferers and there’s a bit more to it than blankety blank, so Happy? mike – I think not.
    
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    June 7, 2023 9:00am
  - Yvette
    
    more … piquant …that just one “Fuck You”
    
    Like – LABOUR, LABOUR, LABOUR, ARDERN, LABOUR, HIPKINS, LABOUR!
    
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    June 7, 2023 9:15am
    - sirknz
      
      You kiss your significant other with that mouth?
      
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      June 7, 2023 9:28am
    - lastmanstanding
      
      On the matter of the Wood affair my observation over the past the 50 years is that the current cohort of politicans lack the humility and grace of office. They see themselves as a cut above the peasants massaged by those around them as in “Yes Minister” ‘Yes Prime Minister”. Rather than seeing themselves as servants of the citizens they see themselves as Master of the citizens there to command and control the underlings.
      I used to look to and respect politicans as worthy of the office. Now I regard them as a dog turd on the sole of my shoes. I find it difficult to take any of them seriously rather I consider them the problem in my life not the solution.
      Now they will sneer and dismiss my considerations which only goes to prove I am correct.
      If you want respect first you have to show me respect and treat me with dignity. Then and only then will I reciprocate.
      
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      June 7, 2023 9:54am
Opie

Climate scammers… wrong again:

Estimates of Antarctic melting are 3,000% wrong.

Antarctica gained 661 billion tons of ice during 2009-2019 vs. a prediction of a 20,000 billion ton loss.
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June 7, 2023 8:07am
- Mike
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jun/06/too-late-now-to-save-arctic-summer-ice-climate-scientists-find
  
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  June 7, 2023 8:28am
  - Local Miller
    
    Another lie from the climate radicals Mike. Note this line in the article: “Since satellite records began in 1979, summer Arctic ice has shrunk by 13% a decade, in one of the clearest signs of the climate crisis”
    
    Arctic sea ice satellite records go back to 1972 as per the historical NOAA data and the 1990 UN climate report. So why do they use 1979, and why lie about it? Because the sea ice extent was at a maximum in 1979, where it was at a minimum between 1972 and 75. If they were honest and showed all the data the narrative would collapse as even you would see that the Arctic Sea Ice extent has increased on average since 1972 when satellite records really started, and there has been NO STATISTICAL to date, only normal cyclic fluctuations.
    The same applies to the Antarctic sea ice, and the average trend over time is actually an increase if you go back to pre 1980 when record keeping started.
    You really need to do some wider reading than just articles in The Guardian.
    
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    June 7, 2023 11:03am
    - Chris Nisbet
      
      Summer ice in the Arctic disappeared a decade ago.
      Well, experts predicted that it would disappear, and they know what they’re talking about, being experts and all.
      I wonder which experts are more useless… climate experts or covid experts.
      
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      June 7, 2023 12:11pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Summer ice was very evident around Svalbard in July 2019 when I was there.
        
        Our boat couldn’t get beyond 79deg N…whereas it had easily reached 80deg N the year before.
        
        Arctic Sea Ice is tracking along fairly average at the moment
        https://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icecover.uk.php
        
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        June 7, 2023 3:17pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    The Grauniad has been a standing joke for a decade. Another formerly respectable msm outlet bought and paid for and reduced to a propaganda arm, no better than Pravda in the Soviet Union era.
    
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    June 7, 2023 11:56am
  - Bloody Dago
    
    Weaponizing and politising billion year old global phenomena….science as science is finish. Climate changes every second it is what it is, just get over it, this is our human reality.
    
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    June 7, 2023 12:02pm
- kowtow
  
  Climate scammers are using fear , amplified by the media pardy ,to destroy our economies and usher in a world built they hope in their own image , whatever that may be.
  
  There’s an agenda and no shortage of useful idiots.
  
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  June 7, 2023 8:51am
- hullkiwi
  
  …and the areas where Antarctica is losing ice is not because of climate change, as the geological scientific community knows it is because of what is under the ice. Sitting under the ice cap are a number of volcanoes doing what volcanoes do….not very convenient if you want to talk man made climate change!
  
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  June 7, 2023 9:03am
  - Ian Boag
    
    If you go back to the original paper about the presence of volcanoes under the Pine Island glacier … author’s name is Loose – they estimated the heat fluxes doing some fancy stuff with helium isotopes.
    
    This excess heat is small compared to the heat content of CDW20 (ca. 12 kJ kg−1), demonstrating that volcanic heat does not contribute significantly to the glacial melt observed in the ocean at the front of the ice shelf.
    
    CDW is the current that goes round Antarctic – its warming is the major contributor to ice melting.
    
    Go figure ….
    
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    December 7, 2022 11:40am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Ian, read the following which contradicts the study you referenced. The obvious question is, how can an active volcano not be the contributor to the levels of ice melt being cited?
      
      https://theoutdoorphonestore.com/175635/volcanoes-melting-antarctica-why-did-un-ipcc-ar6-report-hide-the-science/
      
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      June 7, 2023 12:18pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-04421-3
        
        There are volcanos down there someplace. These guys reckon that their thermal contribution to melting amounts to something like 1% ….
        
        Whatever
        
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        June 7, 2023 1:06pm
    - cmm
      
      “they estimated the heat fluxes doing some fancy stuff with helium isotopes.”
      
      So they used mathematical models to make some estimates….. and got it wrong.
      
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      June 7, 2023 1:34pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        they used mathematical models to make some estimates…
        
        Weren’t no other way to do it apparently. You obviously (?) have access to some better info.
        
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        June 7, 2023 4:18pm
  - Rocky Jnr
    
    Its only a matter of time before the Greta’s start blaming volcanoes on……..Climate Change!
    
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    June 7, 2023 9:48am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The climate change wanks know this but will never admit to knowing.
    
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    June 7, 2023 9:49am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Opie same as covid, the actual evidence is there for anyone wanting to look, but it is rarely permitted in msm while the terror and fear porn is amplified repeatedly.
  We’re living the greatest example of Goebbel’s mantra of telling a lie often enough until it becomes the accepted truth. We are headed towards dystopian times, we are actively living them.
  
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  June 7, 2023 9:21am
  - Lee C
    
    It may be more mundane than that CM.
    
    Just that MSM is struggling or relevance a they increasingly lose market traction against other forms of communication.
    
    The best way to get revenue is to latch onto the ideologues in Government and peddle their delusional clap-trap – which incidentally is more driven by a desire to access funding too..
    
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    June 7, 2023 9:40am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Lee C – possibly, but this pivot to ‘climate change’ from covid was widely predicted by people who were correct about all of the other ‘conspiracy theories’ that all came true.
      I might be paranoid, I really don’t think so. We are in the process of having the so called ‘great reset’ imposed on us.
      The world is in a very bizarre place currently. I have no doubt it will all sort itself out eventually, as it always does, but if we allow this push towards global governance via the unelected WHO, UN and WEF and others to continue, our children’s and grandchildren’s lives will be very miserable. They will wonder how we could possibly have let it get to that stage.
      
      The latest instalment of ‘Plandemic’ is worth watching. It has identified so many things that are being implemented to fracture society to enable this. The breaking apart of the family unit being the primary goal.
      
      Sounds hyperbolic. I hope it is, but I don’t think so.
      Here’s the trailer link:
      
      https://odysee.com/@enlightenedones!:1/Plandemic-3-Trailer:4d
      
      Here’s the full documentary:
      
      https://odysee.com/@QuantumRhino:9/Plandemic-3–The-Great-Awakening-(2023):9
      
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      June 7, 2023 10:15am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Next pivot is to AI
        
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        June 7, 2023 7:38pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  All of a sudden the scammers can’t be found.
  
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  June 7, 2023 9:32am
- Ruawai
  
  Climate change has now moved on from sea level rise to flooding as it is way more visible. But likely caused by a volcano.
  
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  June 7, 2023 9:49am
  - Spam
    
    What the media won’t tell you about flooding
    
    From the IPCC
    
    In summary there is low confidence in the human influence on the changes in high river flows on the global scale. In general, there is low confidence in attributing changes in the probability or magnitude of flood events to human influence because of a limited number of studies, differences in the results of these studies and large modelling uncertainties.
    
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    June 7, 2023 10:18am
- JohnRidd
  
  You are right Opie.
  
  This link below is to a NASA record of monthly Antarctic sea ice extent from 1978 to 2017.
  
  I plotted the total sea ice area in Excel and the trend line shows the area increasing on average by about 20,000 sq kms per year.
  
  https://earth.gsfc.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/neptune/files/SH_IceArea_Monthly_1978-2017.txt
  
  I like it when the data of the alarmists contradicts their own claims.
  
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  June 7, 2023 3:46pm
sirknz

Apparently the rainbow alphabet mafia are being persecuted in the USA.

https://archive.fo/lWaJo [$tuff]

There are only something like 176 days set aside for celebrating their achievements per year, and they are propped up by the government, every major corporate, and are able to get people cancelled for daring to not say they are the bestest thing ever.

On a side note, a number of the corporates have not put up their pride themed logos on social media (just like their Middle Eastern specific social media accounts) or have removed them very quickly lest they be targeted like Anheuser Busch or Target.
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June 7, 2023 8:21am
- slightlyrighty
  
  The problem with the Pride movement is that it now has evolved into an activist beast that has strayed far from its original purpose.
  
  After what has happened to Bud Light, Target and Nike, corporations are looking at the implications of supporting the multi headed beast that was the LBG movement but is now the 2SLBGTQI , and realise that there is no up side in doing so.
  
  There is a groundswell among more ‘conservative’ gay people that is distancing themselves from what this group has become, and particularly it’s more lunatic fringe.
  
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  June 7, 2023 8:35am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Indeed, perhaps the LGB part needs to divorce the TQQIAAP2S+ crowd.
    
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    June 7, 2023 9:48am
    - Ehlana
      
      Quite a few LGB people are doing so. Sexual preference and gender identity are not the same thing. The first group were no more asked if they wanted the second group to join them than women were asked if they minded people of the male sex entering sex segregated spaces or sports teams.
      
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      June 7, 2023 10:48am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    The same is happening with former supporters of BLM, now that the founders of that movement have been proven to be con artists and scammers.
    
    https://californiaglobe.com/articles/blm-co-founder-patrisse-kahn-cullors-denies-any-wrongdoing-in-the-6-million-la-house-controversy/
    
    It’s the same with the climate con artists.
    Scammers, liars and frauds. Follow the money, every time.
    
    Just Stop Oil’s Hollywood Patron Has Holiday Home in Ireland That he Jets Off to “When the Going Gets Tough”
    
    A Hollywood director helping to bankroll Just Stop Oil has been accused of hypocrisy over his lavish holiday home in Ireland – 5,000 miles from his Los Angeles base.
    
    Oscar winner Adam McKay, whose films include The Big Short and Don’t Look Up, is one of a group of multi-millionaires behind the Climate Emergency Fund.
    
    BLM, gender, climate, covid – they are all scams. They are all designed to destroy our societies to enable the ‘great reset’. There are many useful idiots who have fallen for this and who genuinely believe they are supporting a great cause.
    
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    June 7, 2023 12:04pm
- David Garrett
  
  sirk: As I have said here before “pride” in being gay is akin to me being proud to be short…fucking ridiculous.
  
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  June 7, 2023 8:51am
  - Flossie
    
    I agree DG. But as an unfortunately very short person I can’t even pretend to not be short if circumstances make it awkward to be seen so.
    
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    June 7, 2023 9:03am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Stackies!
      
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      June 7, 2023 7:41pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Given that Women have smashed all the glass ceilings and the Trans Mob are currently kinking in doors and barriers (walls), what’s left for Straight People to do?
    I can come out of retirement if the Strait People are interested.
    
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    June 7, 2023 9:09am
  - NothingLeft
    
    Just identify as a tall person. Problem solved.
    
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    June 7, 2023 10:43am
  - Philview
    
    It was an eye opener for me recently when a work colleague disclosed to me he is gay. It had caused him great distress thinking he would be judged differently by people. After that the Pride thing made more sense to me.
    
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    June 7, 2023 11:03am
    - ISeeRed
      
      Coming out in 2023 is stressful? Puh-leeze. Try any decade before the 90s.
      
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      June 7, 2023 12:35pm
    - lifesgood
      
      Why is it necessary to tell anyone? I’ve never, ever told anyone I’m heterosexual. Your colleague should just get on with his job and keep his private life private.
      
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      June 7, 2023 1:18pm
      - ISeeRed
        
        Why? Some people naturally ask questions like are you partnered, married, do you have kids etc. especially when you’re new in the workplace. Is just honestly responding to their uninvited personal questions akin to “ramming your sexuality down my throat” or some such in your opinion? Just like some gays go overboard with screaming it from the rooftops, some people are too nosey or don’t respect boundaries at work, and need to be shut down with “I’m gay, actually, but thanks for asking”.
        
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        June 7, 2023 3:58pm
  - lifesgood
    
    Hear, hear, David. Why is it necessary for gays to hold festivals and parade half naked down streets to proclaim they have sex with their own gender. It doesn’t make any sense. Talk about exhibitionism.
    
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    June 7, 2023 1:15pm
- kowtow
  
  So persecuted the loons at the California state legislature have “honoured” the so called Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.
  
  What a freak show the Democrats are.
  
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  June 7, 2023 8:54am
  - leoj
    
    ….not to mention scum.
    
    They are ruining the US.
    
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    June 7, 2023 11:09am
- Gaetano
  
  The problems have arisen because of trans activists. They have merged with the gay folk.
  
  People who are totally accepting of gay people are much less likely to be supportive of men dressed as women advertising tampons or children receiving medical and surgical treatment to change gender.
  
  That is the problem.
  
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  June 7, 2023 8:59am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    That is exactly what happened at Albert Park with Posie Parker
    
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    June 7, 2023 9:36am
    - Gaetano
      
      The irony is that Kellie Jaye Keen has many gay women speaking at her events in the UK. Here, because of the obtuse media, many folk concluded that she was homophobic.
      
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      June 7, 2023 10:13am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        The mainstream media in NZ is a farcical entity. Totally compromised, government propagandists.
        
        It will take many years before they are trusted by a substantial number of the NZ public.
        
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        June 7, 2023 10:19am
- ClanMcleod
  
  This has to be the most delusional cult I’ve witnessed in my lifetime, it will pass, but it will do an awful lot of damage around the world while going through the death throes.
  The people who have hijacked the gay community are in the process of wrecking years of hard won progress.
  
  There is no bigotry or repression in that community, there is only shrieking, irrational, petulant demands to get every toy they want and to be permitted to do whatever they want no matter the impact on others. The most narcissistic group of idiots ever.
  
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  June 7, 2023 9:39am
slightlyrighty

So what do we know.

Wood has misled the Cabinet Office on Multiple occasions.

He has not disclosed a pecuniary interest, despite ruling directly, and against official advice, against an airport that would have removed revenue from the entity that he had undeclared interests in.

This is the same pecuniary interest that is in a trust that was not declared by Wood’s wife, despite this trust being named after her. This is the same woman who is part of the council that is directly ruling on it’s shareholding, which will have an impact on share pricing.

I can beleive that one of these issues, taken in isolation, can be attributed to a lapse in judgment or an administrative omission of error. But the optics of the totality of these issues is certainly raising eyebrows.

As we dig deeper, it looks worse and worse…
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June 7, 2023 8:25am
- JimBobJoe
  
  Chippies faction must have known all this for some time and now are kneecapping Wood as a potential rival…
  
  All smells like blood letting by Labour positioning for a rebuild in Opposition.
  
  As opposed to a rightie hit job as Darien Fenton is shilling on twitter…
  
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  June 7, 2023 10:19am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yeah the Herald will really be working with Nats, god that woman is disgusting
    
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    June 7, 2023 11:28am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Indeed. I strongly suspect that the initial leak came from somewhere above the eighth floor of the Beehive. This is a pre-emptive strike by Team Chippie to stop Team Napoleon getting ahead of itself.
    
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    June 7, 2023 12:53pm
  - alex Masterley
    
    Why would righites want to launch a hit job on Wood?
    As Bonaparte said “never interrupt an enemy when they are making a mistake”.
    All the nats have to do is sit quietly in the terraces watching labour implode.
    
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    June 7, 2023 1:13pm
- Ian Boag
  
  against an airport that would have removed revenue
  
  Is it true that the locals were pretty anti …. ?
  
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  June 7, 2023 4:24pm
Swifty

What a pity for Aucklanders that Wayne Brown wasn’t Mayor from 2010 to get the amalgamated city up and running right, driving hard for efficiencies etc.

And just imagine if we had that wet jelly Efeso Collins Mayor right now. Rates rise would be 15% easy. And none of these tough conversations would be held and hard decisions taken.

Love that Brown tells the news media to get stuffed too.
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June 7, 2023 8:26am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Wayne Brown must have been watching Donald Trump.
  “You are Fake News!”
  
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  June 7, 2023 9:52am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Chatted with Uber driver about Wayne the other day. I asked the driver if he liked Wayne. He said no, he didn’t like him at all. I asked why not. He said he’s no good with the media.
  Sigh.
  
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  June 7, 2023 12:17pm
  - Swifty
    
    Good grief.
    
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    June 7, 2023 3:12pm
Ian Boag

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Re the Wood conflict of interest thing.

If National are elected they will make mortgage interest deductible for rental property owners. Given that many MPs are rental property owners – to the extent of a whole lot more than $13k – is there a conflict of interest here?

Just asking …..
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June 7, 2023 8:27am
- Mike
  
  Yes, but their increased borrowing is really for the benefit of others, making more accommodation available for generation rent. If anything, the deductibility should be augmented by scrapping the accommodation supplement and using that as a direct subsidy to landlords.
  
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  June 7, 2023 8:31am
  - Matt Long
    
    How many Billions do taxpayers put into accommodation supplements that drive up the cost of renting and of housing for non beneficiaries I wonder?
    
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    June 7, 2023 12:27pm
- Opie
  
  I assume this is a wind up but i’ll bite.
  
  No ian, they have declared the rental ownership. Not tried to hide it and then been too incompetent to get rid of it when they said they would.
  
  How about Helen Clarke’s rentals? I’m guessing she doesn’t owe much on hers though.
  
  The rental interest deductibility rule change has affected thousands of mum and dad investors negatively. The policy reversal is common sense, not just to benefit mps with rentals. What you fail to grasp is this policy was basically an economically illiterate moron swinging a sledgehammer to calm house prices, without thinking that the extra costs would raise rents for the very people he claims to want to help.
  
  Every other business can deduct interest, why not on a rental?
  
  If this was the way forward it should have been campaigned on and then applied to any purchase not going forward. It should not apply retrospectively.
  
  People are allowed to invest however they want, it’s the hiding of it and clear incompetence of wood that most people have an issue with.
  
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  June 7, 2023 8:47am
  - Ian Boag
    
    I wasn’t expressing an opinion about the policy. Note the “Just asking” at the end.
    
    Any rental-property-owning MP who has debt and votes for the repeal is voting on something that he/she will get financial benefit from.
    
    If that isn’t a conflict of interest I’m OK with it.
    
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    June 7, 2023 10:18am
    - alloytoo
      
      You were no doubt happy when they were penalized.
      
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      June 7, 2023 10:24am
      - Ian Boag
        
        I’m pretty agnostic about the whole thing
        
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        June 7, 2023 10:30am
      - Yabster
        
        course he was – socialist don’t have a lot of economic clues and “equity” only applies to causes they are ok to push- maybe you can explain to me Ian why any other business in NZ can deduct interest and property investors running a business can’t?
        
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        June 7, 2023 10:32am
      - Jack5
        
        It will be of interest to voters if MP’s really are putting their savings in housing and then will vote on tax deductibility of interest on investor mortgages.
        
        As New Zealand slides down the international ranking of wealth as measured by GDP per capita, we need to look closely at how our tax system encourages or discourages economic growth.
        
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        June 7, 2023 11:05am
      - stiff cheese
        
        @Jack5,
        
        Another good metric is GDP per Hour Worked. NZ’s performance is pathetic based on that figure, too.
        
        Politicians try to manufacture higher GDP by (1) importing more people; and (2) making us work longer hours* (just to keep up with a falling Standard of Living).
        
        When you take into account those 2 factors, then you get the true picture of our poor Economic Growth.
        
        *confirmed by the Productivity Commission: we HAVE been working longer hours in recent years.
        
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        June 7, 2023 2:15pm
    - Yabster
      
      bloody stupid question though Ian wasn’t it.- akin to we can’t increase tax brackets because we have a “conflict of interest” ie MP’s would benefit from that also.
      
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      June 7, 2023 10:29am
    - Mike
      
      I think your difficulty is that on similar reasoning MPs could never vote for anything, from tax cuts to childcare subsidies, which might give them a personal benefit.
      The basic principle is to declare interests so that they can be assessed and acted upon if necessary.
      
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      June 7, 2023 10:58am
    - Ehlana
      
      Yes, I agree it’s a conflict of interest, in that they are voting on something which will affect their personal finances. On the other hand, that was presumably also true when they voted to repeal interest deductibility (unless none of them have mortgages).
      
      The problem with the policy was it didn’t make sense. It was an attempt to make rental investments less attractive and so cool the housing market. What they missed was that rentals usually house more people than owned homes. So, if landlords sell to owner-occupiers, the number of people with a roof over their heads is likely to go down. And homelessness to go up.
      
      Also, the housing market problem is lack of supply. Land is so expensive that new built houses tend to be at the average to high end of the market, not the lower end that lower income people need. Rules around housebuilding make it more expensive that it used to be, or needs to be, again reducing the lower cost options. A small market a long way from overseas manufacturers means a lack of competition in home building products, another factor in increased costs.
      
      These are the sort of things that needed to be addressed to make a long-term, sustainable, difference. They all take time. A policy likely to increase homelessness in the meantime is not a good idea.
      
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      June 7, 2023 11:21am
  - artemisia
    
    Increasing costs for rental owners also increases the level of risk assessment of potential tenants.
    
    Story in the Herald this week about a couple who had applied for 50 rentals. All applications unsuccessful. On the face of it, high risk. Parents both 20 years old, one child and a baby on the way. Most landlords will look no further.
    
    (Looks like article was taken down,)
    
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    June 7, 2023 11:39am
- Gaetano
  
  I’m not sure if you are being serious. National is simply committing to reverse what was a very stupid policy change. Hopefully National and ACT will reverse hundreds of decisions made over the last two terms of government, because they have impoverished the nation.
  
  Your example has no resemblance to the Airport shares example. It is analogous to the Minister of Education having shares in a private education provider. Or the Minister in charge of building regulations having shares in a construction company.
  
  What is and what is not a conflict of interest requires judgement. It is not usually a complex judgement but the Cabinet Office is well resourced and there to help in such judgements.
  
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  June 7, 2023 8:51am
  - leoj
    
    The country will need many more ACT MPs to stiffen National’s spine.
    
    The Nats have a history of going wobbly.
    
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    June 7, 2023 11:13am
- Cassandra
  
  The problem with Wood , Ian, is not the conflict so much as his duplicity and stupidity.
  
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  June 7, 2023 9:01am
- coge
  
  In reality, who do you think ends up paying for that tax, Mr Boag?
  
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  June 7, 2023 9:12am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The Govt pays that Tax.//
    
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    June 7, 2023 9:40am
- RoboRob
  
  Oh knnoows, National MPs also buy and eat food, should that too be a conflict of intrest when making farming decisions.
  
  Is there any end to your straw man distraction posts?
  
  Juts asking ……
  
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  June 7, 2023 9:26am
- JimBobJoe
  
  Not really Ian as non residential home ownership across MP’s crosses across all party lines. Rental property is an NZ religion
  
  They also all own buildings or via related parties, they rent themselves and get us via parliamentary services to pay for them
  
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  June 7, 2023 10:22am
- alloytoo
  
  No, there no conflict of interest here, the question of interest deductibility is one of tax consistency.
  
  All businesses are allowed to deduct the cost of doing business including interest charges.
  
  Labour’s disallowance of the interest charge was an obscene abuse of power which was inconsistent with global accounting and tax practice. It was a ideological decision to punish a class of our society and has contributed to reduced supply and higher rentals.
  
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  June 7, 2023 10:22am
hullkiwi

Minister hasn’t got an answer to an oral question from the opposition spokesman, so Labour run interference. This occured yesterday when Robertson got to his feet and quoted the parliamentary standing orders rule book for the Speaker to make a ruling on a repeat weekly question from Mark Mitchell to Ginny Andersen.

The question, “given reported levels of rising crime, what assurances can she give New Zealanders that they feel safe”.

In short she has no answer, so Parliament’s bully, Robertson runs interference…..

In summary, Labour didn’t have a clue in 2017, and they are still clueless today. How can the sheeple still support the Coalition of Chaos?
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June 7, 2023 8:34am
Nickc2

Is the resolution of the Teacher’s Pay Rise dispute an attempt to divert attention from the Wood/Tenetti/Verrall fiascos?

Uptick YES
Downtick NO

Comments welcome.
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June 7, 2023 8:40am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Of course it was. I mentioned it the other day. If the media is pushing something, look at what may be happening in the background. Food prices and inflation and LBQ stuff were other diversions.
  
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  June 7, 2023 9:59am
- Gravelroad
  
  @Nick2-
  I thought it was just a straight out bribe to make sure the teachers would all still vote Labour.
  
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  June 7, 2023 10:43am
  - Nickc2
    
    You are probably right. That way, a new Govt will be committed to the deal.
    
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    June 7, 2023 12:21pm
- Gravelroad
  
  @Nick2-
  I thought it was just a straight out bribe to make sure the teachers would all still vote Labour.
  
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  June 7, 2023 10:44am
  - Jack5
    
    A con by the teachers. They would never vote to a party to the right of Labour.
    
    Teachers are the core, the stem, the beating heart of the Labour Party.
    
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    June 7, 2023 10:56pm
- Local Miller
  
  Had a good chat with my teacher daughter today. She was shocked the lates offer was accepted. She personally voted against it, and thinks it’s no better than the previous offer. From her perspective all they did was shuffle the numbers around, and change the sequence of a few things, but they aren’t getting any more money.
  She’s on the top of her scale and really frustrated that there’s no significant increase possible for her.
  
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  June 7, 2023 9:59pm
  - Nickc2
    
    A labour Govt and a Union are in agreement. Who would have thought? //
    
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    June 7, 2023 11:02pm
Rusty

Why are the happy rainbow alphabet people pleading persecution in the USA but are silent on the ‘real’ persecution against them in non-western countries?

Uganda recently passed a law making it a crime to be trans-gender punishable by imprisonment and even death. Other African and Muslim nations have similar laws.

Even some Asian and South American countries have outlawed trans-gender lifestyles.

But no, according to the rainbow alphabet people it’s the nasty hating anglo/christian countries who want to finish them off.
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June 7, 2023 8:40am
- LB
  
  It’s pretty obvious, no money, media coverage or virtue signalling points to be made in those countries from alphabet campaigns. A rainbow tick in the west is effectively a protection racket.
  
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  June 7, 2023 10:31am
Maggie Pie

A bestie emails…

Michael Wood apparently challenged Chippie for the leadership after it was vacated by Cindy this year. He appears to be at the ‘redder-end’ of Labor that wants the party to stand for something more than sausage rolls. Chippie is going to need an army of doorknockers to stave off National come October.
Sacking his rival would likely see the volunteer base not even bothering to get their lazy arses out of bed.
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June 7, 2023 8:43am
- David Garrett
  
  MP: I know you always appreciate a little guidance on matters grammatical.
  
  You refer to “a” bestie…Given that “bestie” is short for “best friend”, by definition you can only have one of them, just like you can have only one “tallest tree in the country” or ONE “full and final settlement”
  
  So you should refer either to MY bestie, or perhaps “one of my closest friends”
  
  Here endeth the lesson.
  
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  June 7, 2023 8:58am
  - Cassandra
    
    One full and final? One per generation surely. Or is it one a year?
    
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    June 7, 2023 9:03am
  - Gaetano
    
    Even worse she refers to “doorknockers“. These are brass rings or other devices on a door that are used to make a knocking noise.
    
    Someone who knocks on a door is a ‘door knocker’. Two words. She should have used that form.
    
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    June 7, 2023 9:06am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Her ‘Persona’ doesn’t work if she uses correct spelling and grammar.
      
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      June 7, 2023 9:45am
    - rangitoto
      
      Compound words are common in German and they do exist in English which is a Germanic language.
      
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      June 7, 2023 12:12pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Quiet day in Tonga Dave?
    No p*ssed natives that need to get a restricted license for work?
    
    😀 😀 😀
    
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    June 7, 2023 9:24am
    - David Garrett
      
      Maggie: Yes, a tad quiet up here today…I am thinking of taking the day off; it’s a very pleasant 25 with humidity no worse that Auckland.
      
      Oh, and I don’t assist “pissed natives”; my lack of the Tongan language and the fact that I have never done criminal work means said pissed natives need to look elsewhere for assistance
      
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      June 7, 2023 10:03am
  - Nickc2
    
    Full and final settlements are definitely not final in NZ.
    
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    June 7, 2023 9:42am
    - Inandout
      
      Nick, though full frontal is definitely final, sorts the men from the women.
      
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      June 7, 2023 9:59am
  - Random T Person
    
    Chicks call their mates besties. While it is a contraction, there is no single bestie these days.
    Source: My wife calls her friends her besties, as in plural/collective noun.
    
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    June 7, 2023 9:56am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      RTP – as I commented the other day, though in relation to the inane attempt to coerce the vast majority of the population to learn a language they have no interest in, language is communication. It evolves. Always has, always will.
      What was ‘grammatically correct’ 200 years ago, wasn’t ‘correct’ 100 years ago, and of course it is no longer ‘correct’ today.
      
      As long as we get the meaning of the message being conveyed in a clear and concise manner then the language is ‘correct’.
      
      Long story, but basically I’m saying most people understand the context when someone says my ‘besties’ or ‘one of my besties’. As you say, it’s plural/collective.
      
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      June 7, 2023 10:28am
    - kevn
      
      @Random… My brothers girlfriend was known as a ‘beastie’.
      
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      June 7, 2023 10:33am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Indeed..
      
      A bestie is just a best friend
      
      But a very best bestie is a bestest.
      
      (I know they didn’t teach us about super superlatives in 5th form English classes… but out in the playground you come across them all the time… the mostest; the worstest; the leastest ; and even- the most biggest, etc.)
      
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      June 7, 2023 11:52am
  - Matt Long
    
    DG, one of my best friends, bestie.
    
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    June 7, 2023 12:40pm
hullkiwi

Joke of the day, Chris Hipkins is a strong decisive leader.” Clint Smith 7/06/2023 to Mike Hosking.

This quote in reference to Chippie suspending Wood as Transport Minister.

Talk about painting black as white…

This is the same Chippie who:
1. gave Nash 3 chances before sacking him for repeat stupidity;
2. Didn’t know what Whaitiri was going to leave Labour;
3. Did nothing over Kiri Allen’s outburst against an independent government enterprise because her love interest didn’t get a top broadcasting role; and
4. Is suffering the indignity of a Minister being referred to the Privileges Committee.

Strong leadership, indeed, not!
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June 7, 2023 8:57am
- cmm
  
  Compared to the baseline, Cindy, Hipkins is ruthless.
  
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  June 7, 2023 10:41am
I remember when

Maps made available to show the extent of flooding threats: RNZ.
New maps, created by Niwa and the Deep South Naional Science Challenge, show areas where extreme coastal flooding could occur.
They show a large storm-tide along with the sea-level rise the country was expected to experience with climate change.
Coastal flooding was particularly likely when high tides, storm surges and large waves occurred simultaneously, Dr Scott Stephens, NIWA chief coastal scientist, said.
They provide many senarios of sea-level rises.
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June 7, 2023 9:08am
- All_on_Red
  
  Does NIWA still use RCP 8.5 as their BAU model?
  
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  June 7, 2023 10:34am
- Ehlana
  
  “Coastal flooding was particularly likely when high tides, storm surges and large waves occurred simultaneously.”
  
  So, if the seawater is all the way up to the shore already, and there is lots of wind and lots of water falling from the sky, there will be lots of water on the ground near the sea?
  
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  June 7, 2023 12:31pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  “Coastal flooding was particularly likely when high tides, storm surges and large waves occurred simultaneously”
  What would we do without chief scientists?
  It’s a bit like saying things get wet when it rains.
  
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  June 7, 2023 12:35pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Michael Laws told us today that James Renwick has just published a book that apparently suggests that NZ will escape the worst of “Climate Change!!!”
  Does that mean we should start calling Renwick a climate denier, because anybody else who suggests that things really might not worse than we thought certainly gets labelled that way.
  It occurred to Michael that if things weren’t going to be that bad for us, why would we want to wreck our whole country in a vain attempt to avoid something we could have no impact on. It seems to me to be a good question.
  
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  June 7, 2023 12:43pm
- Master Mariner
  
  Banks, councils and Insurers onboard for false information easily disproved.
  What they cannot disprove are tide guages with contradictory information.
  Yes, The model is 8.5.
  Question, With such obviously false / misleading information why is there no class legal action?
  Pretty easy to prove its false information with serious repercussions.?
  
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  June 7, 2023 3:57pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.
It was a private meeting. there would have been no trouble unless the protestors started it. The Police were informed.
What are Maori scared of??

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/maori-councillor-admits-cancelling-horsham-downs-event-in-hamilton/
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June 7, 2023 9:09am
I remember when

Deep South National Science Challenge’s mission is “To enable New Zealanders to adapt, manage risk and thrive in a changing climate.”
We’re achieving this by connecting science with society, through five interlinked programmes.
Hosted by NIWA, the Deep South Challenge is one of New Zealand’s 11 National Science Challenges.
There website lists a number of projects they are involved with or have completed.
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June 7, 2023 9:14am
Maggie Pie

LGBTQIA2S+

Looks like we can now add ‘F’ to the acronym….. FURRY

‘Furries’ are those, both male & female, sexually motivated by erotic target identity inversion (ETII), which is sexual arousal by the fantasy of being the same kind of animal to which you are sexually attracted.

It’s certainly a thang at Whangarei-Girls-High, where the Headmistress has been petitioned to provide litter-boxes in the toilets for a number of pupils there who identify as…. “CATS”.

https://tiktok.com/@lordpeachy2rumble/video/7240654522094210306
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June 7, 2023 9:18am
- Nickc2
  
  If we give Vape Products Te Reo names, will that encourage or discourage use?
  Dr. Ayesha Verrall MP, the ball’s in your court. You may need to give Willie Jackson a serve though. He wouldn’t like to see Te Reo bought into disrepute.
  
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  June 7, 2023 9:29am
- DimChappie
  
  Doing poos in the sink cause they identify as animals? That’s crap: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litter_boxes_in_schools_hoax
  
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  June 7, 2023 9:49am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Seriously, throw them out of school until they come to their senses. Or walk out of the school and tell them to educate themselves. If these nutters want to pretend to be animals do it in their own time. Not taxpayer funded education.
  If they object then get them to go to an animal trainer and pay for their own education.
  
  The education in this country is in dire straits as it is without letting morons like this add to the chaos.
  
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  June 7, 2023 9:50am
- kowtow
  
  Identify as cats .
  
  OK , we can accomodate that , once you go on a diet of raw mice and sparrows .
  
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  June 7, 2023 11:48am
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    Mice are high fibre, and probably keto too!
    
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    June 7, 2023 12:16pm
- cas
  
  Talking about cats, as I cleaned the cat’s kitty litter tray today it made me wonder why, on a fine day with the cat able to go outside ( locked in at night), it waits till there is fresh kitty litter to christen it.
  
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  June 7, 2023 11:50am
  - Ehlana
    
    It’s last slave died of underwork and it doesn’t want to repeat the error with you. Good slaves are hard to find.
    
    You may go clean the water bowl now.
    
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    June 7, 2023 12:33pm
  - Matt Long
    
    The cats puts in all 5he work to mark its territory, then someone destroys its good work and it has to start again.
    No wonder cats don’t like people.
    
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    June 7, 2023 12:46pm
kevn

@iboag… More than the ‘conflict of interest’. Misleading and lying to cabinet about having sold the shares, when being asked to do that numerous times.
It has all flowed over to his wifey who pulled a declaration trick as well.
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June 7, 2023 9:19am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Lying is a pre-requisite to joining the Labour Party.
  
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  June 7, 2023 9:45am
Ruahine

The power of the state being used against Sue Grey again.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/132212986/lawyer-sue-grey-to-face-charges-at-tribunal-after-failing-to-have-case-dismissed
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June 7, 2023 9:42am
ClanMcleod

Another sticky situation on the motorway in Auckland.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-road-closed-after-truck-rolls-spilling-22-tonnes-of-carpet-glue/JS7HJ7F64VEW3NL6IVQCQRU4TI/
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June 7, 2023 9:51am
- Gravelroad
  
  A River of Gunge Glue for sticking Wood.
  
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  June 7, 2023 10:51am
kevn

@Clan… An opportunity for those protesters to stick around and be seen.
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June 7, 2023 9:54am
- ClanMcleod
  
  @kevn – and they don’t even need to bring their own glue!
  
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  June 7, 2023 10:33am
Surely Knott

Must watch.

NZ woman speaks to her school board. Talks of the issues she has had at home with her son. And challenges gender ideology being forced through the curriculum of NZ schools. It’s a great speech.

The people concerned about this lgbt push are not the stereotype the media want you to believe. She’s an educated eloquent hippy mum who is talks about the very real experiences happening to her son and about the indoctrination of kids at school and the policy that it permeate all aspects of your childs education.. She talks about the counselling and birth control and gender and pronoun affirmation that is being given to kids and the information withheld from parents.

Brave woman.
https://www.voicemedia.nz/video/high-school-parent-speaks-at-bot-meeting-in-nz?mibextid=Zxz2cZ
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June 7, 2023 9:57am
- thirteenstars
  
  Good for her. NZ parents need to get organised and voice their concerns, en masse if need be, at school board meetings.
  
  If a 9-year-old can speak truth to her school board then parents sure as hell can:
  
  https://rumble.com/vir7el-watch-9-year-old-girl-obliterates-school-board-over-blm-posters.html
  
  “I am nine years old and I know that.”
  
  Brilliant.
  
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  June 7, 2023 10:49am
- ISeeRed
  
  What was all that gibberish at the start?
  
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  June 7, 2023 12:46pm
- Fedup oldie
  
  A superb address that more than likely reflects the opinions and concerns of the majority of parents not only at her school but those throughout the country.
  If the Board had any sense the first action they should take is to co-opt her onto the Board to drive the research that would lead to the answers that she is looking for and to implement the necessary changes.
  
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  June 7, 2023 1:14pm
Jack5

We have a regular poster here who, I think, used to work for Eskom, the South African electricity provider.

In reports of the electricity crisis in South Africa I see they keep talking about coal-fueled power, and how solar power is the way ahead.

Am I right in guessing the coal used is lignite, of which we have billions of tons in Southland?

Also, the reports talk of privatising the monopoly, Eskom, as a solution. Is that it? Sun or lignite?

Are there any recent privatisation successes in South Africa?

https://techxplore.com/news/2023-06-south-africa-power-blackouts-solutions.html
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June 7, 2023 10:00am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Have they found a way to make solar panels work in the dark? If not, solar panels are not the way ahead.
  
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  June 7, 2023 12:47pm
Lee C

On a greater level, this is obviously an internicine knifing from within the inner circle.

Woods neutralised as a potential challenge to Chippie.

The Labour Party implodes spectacularly as the Ballot Box looms to crush them like a grand piano dropped from the Empire State…
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June 7, 2023 10:19am
wilderbeast

Read this story this morning:

https://www.thepost.co.nz/a/nz-news/350018581/huge-fire-breaks-out-in-warehouse-in-shelly-bay

There is reference to the local Iwi trust chairperson and it turns out he is also on the executive team at Hutt District Council which is within the Iwi area – how the hell does that work?
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June 7, 2023 10:20am
- nathie
  
  What a joke – years of inaction, competing claims as to (tribal) ownership of the land and ongoing dissent.
  
  Stupid Governments! They should have left it as a NZ Defence Force base and upgraded it for dual Navy/Air Force use.
  
  Rather than take the “easy way” out to use as Treaty Settlements (look how successful that was – not)! And also putting pressure on NZDF housing for personnel by flogging them off and seeing personnel leave the services due to low wages and high market rental costs).
  
  Lose – lose for both NZDF and Iwi!
  
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  June 7, 2023 12:47pm
Maggie Pie

A client of my partner specializes in consulting to those in the FMCG space.
He was telling him that over 50% of Vape sales are made by way of cash transactions. And what I didn’t know, was that 90% of Vape Stores are either owned or controlled by Indians.
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June 7, 2023 10:25am
- stiff cheese
  
  Same situation in Liquor Stores.
  
  Evidently, we had to import the skills to serve in theses type of stores. Our politicians are so wise .. *cought*
  
  Being a ‘cash under the counter’ business seems to be the attraction. I always ask for a paper receipt (which is never forthcoming unless I ask) — just to be a nuisance.
  Does that mean the cash sale goes through the till? Does the taxman get his cut? No idea.
  
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  June 7, 2023 12:47pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I’ve struck the same thing at Chinese Supermarkets as well Stiffie. Whenever you’re behind an asian paying cash it’s amazing how the till shows $0.00.
    I’m never that lucky with my eftpos.
    
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    June 7, 2023 1:34pm
- Ruawai
  
  Kids probably pay in cash so parents don’t see their vape purchases on bank statements.
  
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  June 7, 2023 1:57pm
kevn

@Maggie… Ca$h, like sugar to ants. Even Brian Tamaki has succumbed.
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June 7, 2023 10:41am
Jack5

Oxfam looks to have shot itself in the foot, or in the feet of the scores of thousands of the world’s hungry whom it says it helps.

This time it’s a social media video with a look-alike depiction of J.K. Rowling and wearing a “terf” badge. The term is an acronym for “trans-exclusionary radical feminist,” that is, feminists who oppose trans-gender “males” sharing with females facilities such as lavatories and dressing sheds.

The Telegraph reports:

“The charity, which aims to combat global poverty, uploaded a Pride Month animation depicting three characters staring angrily at rainbow-coloured silhouettes designed to represent LGBT people.The figure likened to Rowling wore a badge saying “terf”.

Oxfam has now cut from the video the section aimed at Rowling.

Earlier this year, an Oxfam guidebook urged its staff to avoid using the terms “mother” and “father”, instead calling for the universal use of “parent”.

International charities diverting to issues they weren’t formed to address surely put at risk widespread support from donors.
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- Swifty
  
  Oxfam is lost.
  
  Long gone.
  
  It’s now an astroturf mob for the world communist movement.
  
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  June 7, 2023 12:19pm
  - Blog-aholic
    
    Sounds to me like the Ox may be in for a famine of its own making.
    
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    June 7, 2023 12:39pm
- Nickc2
  
  Phil Twyford used to work for Oxfam. No wonder it’s gone down the shitter eh?
  
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  June 7, 2023 12:36pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Actually, he was the founding Director of Oxfam New Zealand so they were screwed from the start.
    
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    June 7, 2023 1:18pm
cmm

Remember when everyone said there’s not enough emphasis on STEM?
Well it seems some people can’t cope with STEM. They broaden it to STEAM where the A = arts.
So now STEM is replaced with STEAM and gets flooded by the Arts people….
and we’re back to where we started: not enough emphasis on STEM.

Where a STEM robotics challenge is all technical: building and programming robots etc, STEAM robotics challenges encourage things like singing a rap song about robots.

It occurs to me that this basic theme is seen elsewhere too. For example:
* Sport is a sausage-fest. Not enough women in sport because women are physically disadvantaged.
* Solution: create women only sport categories to provide a competitive space for women.
* But that’s not inclusive enough, so widen the women’s category to include penis-enabled women too.
* And now we’re back to a sausage fest.
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June 7, 2023 10:55am
- Skippytony
  
  Ahem..Its now, I believe SETMM. (Maori) I kid you not.
  
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  June 7, 2023 12:13pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    It is all because they do not have enough science, maths, tech & engineering teachers, so they get semi qualified teachers to teach the disciplines as STEM poorly.
    
    I can confirm your comment about STEAM being the most recent incarnation of the educators mashing subject matter together to resolve the lack of qualified teachers to teach specific core subjects to school students.
    
    My son is Year 9 (3rd form to old timers like me or Std 7 if you are a South African), this term in maths my son’s class have been studying geometric shapes and symmetry. This is a mash of arts in maths. They have not been learning about area or rules like measuring area of circles, circumference or the use of Phi etc.
    
    No, they have been looking at symmetry in moko designs, and of African round houses – colouring them in to get symmetry (Art). When my wife questioned this, she got frowned upon by the teaching staff. He is wasting his time attending school, and it is no surprise leading schools are turning their backs on NCEA1.
    
    To fix this, our son is being pulled out of this school, he will be home taught supplement with teaching through Crimson Global Academy, other private specialist tutoring so that he is doing the Cambridge curriculum and will be doing a full timetable of study.
    
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    June 7, 2023 1:17pm
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      hk: Contact the homeschooling organisations in your area. They will be helpful.
      
      Neither of our kids spent a day in school (though they both did Chemistry through Correspondence School).
      
      Both excelled (and continue to do so) in STEM, both getting STEM degrees. Both finished the whole school maths syllabus at age 15 (inc. calculus etc).
      
      NZ is completely screwed if Y9 kids are colouring in rondavels for maths. Bullshit. That’s Y1 stuff. And not even Y1 maths!
      
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      June 7, 2023 1:43pm
BeaB

Luxon is impressive on TV when he isn’t being badgered about trivia. Once he learns how to brush off the rubbish he will be even more effective.
The media all obsequiously prostrated themselves in front of the Grande Dame so it can be done.
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June 7, 2023 11:27am
- Tony Stuart
  
  He’s even more impressive in person. I watched him closely on Thursday as he stayed around talking to people after his well-attended Back on Track meeting for nearly an hour. Then in the evening, he lingered for 90 minutes after his scheduled departure time from dinner.
  
  When he talks to people he looks them in the eye, and holds onto eye contact. You see some MP’s looking around for an escape route, or to see who’s next, but not Luxon. From talking to people afterwards, there was pretty much universal agreement that for the time they were talking to him, he gave them his undivided attention.
  
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  June 7, 2023 1:05pm
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    @Tony… Key had that as well. I met him waay back before he became PM. When talking with me, he actually listened and fully engaged.
    
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    June 7, 2023 1:53pm
Surely Knott

Oh good grief You’re not joking. NZ TKI have have added Arts to STEM.

It should be STEM subjects and ARSSE subjects.
(Science, Technology, Engineering and Maths) / (ARts,Social Science, English)

But clearly we are seeing in society they want to put social science concepts in the same category as facts.
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June 7, 2023 11:31am
- hullkiwi
  
  I confirm this is happening. My son has been experiencing it in maths. Read my comment above in response to cmm’s post.
  
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  June 7, 2023 1:19pm
Maggie Pie

I see where Idris Elba is the new James Bond!

Anyone else think it might take a bit of getting used to?
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- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  James Bond died years ago.
  
  The first Craig movie was fun, then he turned into EMO Bond, and its been downhill ever since.
  
  Bond was supposed to be cruel, sexy and escapist. Killed without compunction, got the girls, drove the coolest car, had the nifty tech, and saved the world in exotic locations.
  
  Who cares if he had feelings?
  
  I hope Mrs Broccoli retires the brand. Completely. It is done.
  
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  June 7, 2023 12:22pm
  - Mike
    
    It’s a very adaptable movie franchise, which will continue so long as it makes money, which it will continue to do.
    
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    June 7, 2023 12:44pm
- ISeeRed
  
  Actually, I think he has the presence to pull it off. It will depend on how his character is written.
  
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  June 7, 2023 12:48pm
  - Observer of Life
    
    Agree. Idris Alba could work well in that role. At least they haven’t replaced Craig with a female. That would be wrong on all levels.
    
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    June 7, 2023 8:50pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  I won’t be getting used to it, unless she gets her kit off. 😁
  
  Seriously, the only reason I watched batwoman was because she looked so good in rubber. Other than that I don’t know what she did. 😍
  
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  June 7, 2023 1:58pm
- Ghost
  
  No new bond announced yet?
  
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  June 7, 2023 2:03pm
  - Inandout
    
    Ghost, old UHU was effective.
    
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    June 7, 2023 2:22pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

First pic has appeared of 52 year old Kaikohe man charged with killing dialysis patient Linda Woods.

Now my question is…. why does it look nothing like the person in the photo released by the police, when they were seeking the publics help during their search for the alleged offender?

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1666224372799905792

My partner’s mum reckons that maybe they were trying to throw Dog-The-Bounty-Hunter off the scent and keep any reward for themselves.
(I told her she watches too much telly)
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June 7, 2023 1:06pm
- kevn
  
  @Maggie…. Must have done a quick peroxide job on his hair to put the police off his scent.
  Sooo smart eh? Duh…
  
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  June 7, 2023 1:55pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    It’s amazing the number of people who wanna be blonde 😎
    
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    June 7, 2023 3:00pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Paula Bennett may run for Auckland Mayor? I say no, let Wane Brown do his job.
Paula could run for Mayor after that.
How about getting Paula Bennett to run for National in Upper Harbour again?

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/paula-bennett-hints-at-return-to-politics/ar-AA1cdq8y
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June 7, 2023 1:32pm
- lifesgood
  
  I love Wayne. Leave him alone.
  
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  June 7, 2023 3:55pm
slightlyrighty

So it appears that Tinetti is so compromised by her conduct that her questions in the house are being answered by Kelvin Davis?

How embarrassing
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June 7, 2023 2:45pm
Maggie Pie

TWITTER TRENDING

Hollywood actor Mel Gibson rumored to be on Suicide Watch……

https://twitter.com/MattWallace888/status/1666252185217236993
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June 7, 2023 2:55pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, what has Hillary been up to now?
  
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  June 7, 2023 3:21pm
- Ra Henare
  
  https://twitter.com/MAGA_Mat45/status/1665942711869014016
  
  Also can anyone explain the kneejerk. Russia did it ie the destruction of the damn.
  When there is no real benefit to Russia only a major downside. ie stopping freshwater to Crimea.
  
  Skip to 3;20
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjocQFG6TcQ
  
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  June 7, 2023 3:58pm
  - Ghost
    
    Here is an interesting article from last year
    
    Kovalchuk considered flooding the river. The Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnieper’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings but not flood nearby villages.
    
    The test was a success, Kovalchuk said, but the step remained a last resort. He held off.
    
    Article
    
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    June 7, 2023 4:04pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/royals/300898845/prince-harry-says-stories-that-suggested-james-hewitt-was-his-real-father-were-designed-to-see-him-ousted-from-the-royal-family
I think the term is “dead ringer”.
Or maybe “doppelganger”.
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June 7, 2023 4:03pm
- kevn
  
  @grey… I gather (misery) harry was born well before Hewitt turned up.
  
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  June 7, 2023 6:02pm
Maggie Pie

No wonder everyone hates that Labor inspired ‘Kainga Ora’ outfit 🙁
OMG…Imagine waking up to this news. What a pack of merkins!

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1666296204865486849
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June 7, 2023 4:23pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  OMG!
  
  Please provide a warning before you introduce old ladies like me to new vocabulary.
  
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  June 7, 2023 6:10pm
  - Ghost
    
    You didn’t Google did you? I think Maggie should pay for your counselling.
    
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    June 7, 2023 6:18pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    😛
    
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    June 7, 2023 6:43pm
  - Jack5
    
    Maggie P’s “merkins”? 👀Pubic wigs?
    
    Mmm. I guess most of the Labour mob are anachronistic – in this age of Brazilian waxing. Or by any other 2020’s measure.
    
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    June 7, 2023 11:13pm
Ghost

Hmm, should I watch ET tonight or war of the worlds……

The US government is hiding the existence of “intact and partially intact” alien craft, a former intelligence officer claims.

David Grusch is speaking out after he says he broke ranks to provide classified information to the US Congress, information he says was deliberately withheld from them.

36-year-old Grusch, a decorated combat veteran of the US war in Afghanisation, told The Debrief that he became aware of efforts to hide the existence of these craft while working with the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), serving first as the NRO’s representative to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force and then as the NGA’s co-lead for UAP analysis and representative to the task force.

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June 7, 2023 5:10pm
Ghost

Well you wouldn’t want to fly on curry day

Would you sit directly below another airplane passenger?

It might not sound particularly appealing on paper, but 23-year-old airplane seat designer Alejandro Núñez Vicente believes double-level seating is the future of economy flying.

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June 7, 2023 6:04pm
Maggie Pie

You gotta admit….that Ben Bell from Gore is the gitt that keeps on giving.

LOL!!
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June 7, 2023 6:31pm
Ghost

10 month holiday at home playing on the Xbox

Fueled by alcohol, Tango grabbed the young woman by the hair, dragging her to the ground.

When the victim’s friend, Lucy McKew jumped in to assist, Tango turned her attention to McKew, grabbing her hair and forcing her to her knees and proceeding to slam her head into a low-lying brick wall.

As McKew lay on the ground, Tango continued the attack with several strikes including seven blows to the head, and a foot stomp to the body so forceful, she was left with a shoe imprint on her arm for three weeks.

McKew suffered a traumatic brain injury requiring months in and out of a concussion unit, post-traumatic stress disorder, visual impairment, panic attacks and she could not go out in public or work for several weeks.

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June 7, 2023 7:20pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Whiskey TANGO Foxtrot?
  
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  June 7, 2023 7:43pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  ‘I do hope this is not an everyday occurrence, Judge Orchard said’
  
  There would be a lot of brain injuries in Whangarei if it was.
  
  That judge is an idiot.
  
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  June 7, 2023 8:11pm
- greybeard
  
  10 months home detention !
  The judge must have been threatened by the gang.
  
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  June 8, 2023 7:52am
Ghost

The apartheid in NZ continues. How about rolling out on a need bases not on ethnicity

Waikato University researchers have found Pharmac’s 2021 decision to introduce ethnicity criteria on game-changing diabetes drugs has helped improve inequities in our healthcare system for Māori and Pacific people.

The team, led by Te Whatu Ora endocrinologist and University of Waikato Senior Lecturer Dr Ryan Paul (Ngāti Maru, Hauraki), said Pharmac should now consider rolling out ethnicity criteria for all medications.

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June 7, 2023 7:24pm
- Jack5
  
  New Zealand’s most common type of cancer is skin cancer, and in the most serious type of this, melanoma, NZ has the highest incidence in the world.
  
  Skin cancer is overwhelmingly a disease that afflicts white-skinned people.
  
  If NZ is going to have race-based preferences in State medical treatment, pale skinned people need attention for skin cancer.
  
  If this happens, the growing number of white-skinned Maori will need to think twice whether they identify officially as Maori.
  
  To Hell with race apartheid – anywhere – including NZ.
  
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  June 7, 2023 10:10pm
Jack5

Folic acid will be added to NZ bread from August to reduce incidence of spina bifida in babies.

From the Otago Daily Times:

“Consuming folic acid just before conception and early on during the pregnancy is vital to protecting babies from the risk of major birth defects such as spina bifida, but as just over half of pregnancies in New Zealand are unplanned, many people will not be taking folic acid supplements during this critical time,” deputy director of public health Dr Harriette Carr said.

Folate occurs naturally in leafy greens such spinach, in lentils such as beans and peas, in asparagus, in beets, in citrus fruit, and eggs. Folate tablets are also available.

Given that many sexually active young women won’t eat much of these foods. But will they eat bread? What was once the staple food is present far less in the Western diet.

Cereals at breakfast might be a more typical part of young women’s diet, but it would be more sensible for them to take folate pills while they are sexually active.

The ODT report notes that for young mothers, 83 per cent of pregnancies are unplanned. The neural tube closes 15 to 28 days after conception, and it may be too late to take folate when pregnancy becomes apparent to the mother.

The folate requirement comes after the food industry did not meet a voluntary target of folate in 50 per cent of bread.

The new rule doesn’t apply to “organic” flour for bread making. Presumably, one reason is that unrefined flour naturally contains folate. However, no exception has been declared for brown or multi-grain breads.

New Zealand’s present voluntary system aimed to fortify up to half of packaged bread, but that target has not been reached.

In August, 2018, in NZ Doctor, Dr Andrew Marshall, a Wellington pediatrician, said:

““The scientific evidence overwhelmingly favoured the safety and efficacy of mandatory fortification in 2006-2008, which is why NZ and Australia agreed to implement mandatory fortification in 2009. The New Zealand Government of the time pulled back from that commitment, and ever since we have had a regime of voluntary fortification which was never going to deliver the potential health outcome desired.”

The New Zealand Labor party has pushed for mandatory fortification of folate in bread flour.

In 2018, the Labour Party’s food safety spokesperson, Dr Ashraf Choudhary, said New Zealand should follow countries such as Australia, Canada, the United States. (Choudhary, an agricultural scientist, was an MP from 2002 to 2011.)

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/folic-acid-be-added-bread-flour-august
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June 7, 2023 8:03pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Chemical additive not needed by the majority of the population forced upon all.
  
  Another mass medication experiment.
  
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  June 7, 2023 8:14pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Yep, remember Covid-19?
    
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    June 7, 2023 9:17pm
- Ghost
  
  Doesn’t Folic acid increase the risk of prostrate cancer?
  
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  June 7, 2023 9:43pm
  - Jack5
    
    There seems to be some link, Ghost. Research seems to show too little folate may be bad in cancer risk, but over consumption may be bad in prostate cancer (link below).
    
    It would be good if some flour without added folic acid could be available in supermarkets for home bread makers. Organic outlets aren’t close to everyone in the country, and tend to be expensive.
    
    I wonder how they define organic wheat?
    
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6132377/
    
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30099693/
    
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    June 7, 2023 9:55pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    There seems to be a link between adequate vitamin D intake and lower prostate cancer mortality. This according to Dr John Campbell’s investigations.
    
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