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NeverMindTheBollocks

The Institute of Economic Research reports that 25% of new teachers failed NCEA Level 1 Maths, while no fewer than 58% failed Level 1 Science. This is cabbage level!

Lots of weasel words from IER’s Sarah Hogan during the post 7am interview about how hard it all was, and how better salaries would make things better. Laughably, she thereby implied that the current batch of teachers are rubbish – nice own goal, Sarah!

Not a single word in the report by Radio NZ about the gender split in the primary teaching profession. Imagine if a male dominated profession had the same proportion of ill qualified people. The caterwauling would be deafening!

http://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/517562/new-teachers-fail-to-make-the-grade-on-maths-and-science-knowledge-study
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May 23, 2024 8:03am
- Yabster
  
  ffs dumbass teachers- ncea 1 is 5th form maths/science – not that hard!
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:25am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Graduates who are proficient in maths and science can find better jobs. It is probably true that better salaries are needed. But you could have specialist maths and science teachers in primary schools and only give them the higher salaries, not all teachers.
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:31am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    We are talking 5th Form, Year 11 Maths & Science that these primary School B.Ed graduates can’t achieve.
    
    This is the stuff children are achieving at ages 11-12 at schools in Singapore, Korea and probably China.
    
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    May 23, 2024 8:44am
    - cmm
      
      There’s a joke in the Asian community:
      We’re Asians, not Bsians.
      
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      May 23, 2024 8:47am
    - Suze Wainwright
      
      Yeah, but maths is racist in aotearoa
      
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      May 23, 2024 9:01am
    - wsk12345
      
      It’s the maths we were achieving in the 3rd form!!!!
      
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      May 23, 2024 9:13am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Why can’t the teachers learn the maths and science during the holidays?
      
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      May 23, 2024 10:38am
      - Bridgenag
        
        Or the teachers only holidays….. or strike days
        
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        May 23, 2024 1:10pm
  - Matt Long
    
    Or you could set minimum standards for entry to teacher training, other than grovelling to Te Tiriti.
    
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    May 23, 2024 8:49am
    - pdm
      
      Other than?
      
      Why not – instead of………………
      
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      May 23, 2024 8:57am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    The other barrier to recruiting science graduates is the curriculum which requires science teachers to incorporate ‘Maori Science’. Why would a serious scientist sign up for that?
    
    Also because the teacher unions behave like the former UK coal miners union, you can’t just pay the science teacher a premium. All teachers must be paid the same.
    
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    May 23, 2024 8:49am
    - David Garrett
      
      Also because the teacher unions behave like the former UK coal miners union
      
      Great comparison Bene! I wonder who would be the Arthur Scargill – the wretched man is still alive – of the NZEI?
      
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      May 23, 2024 9:00am
    - plc
      
      I worked at a CRI until last month.
      
      You won’t believe the gymnastics “serious” scientists will go through for funding.
      
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      May 23, 2024 9:00am
    - wsk12345
      
      This is primary school. There aren’t any “serious scientists” teaching at primary level.
      
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      May 23, 2024 9:15am
  - Flossie
    
    Rightly or wrongly isn’t the skill set under discussion more a male area? And there are reasons men don’t go into teaching.
    
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    May 23, 2024 9:17am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Yes Flossie, men are worried about having jobs around kids, especially since the cruel treatment of Peter Ellis.
      Those bitches should be named, shamed, and still in jail.
      
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      May 23, 2024 10:46am
  - Prince
    
    True but the Union would object.
    
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    May 23, 2024 9:21am
- cmm
  
  That’s the new grads.
  
  I wonder whether those that have been there 5 years are any better? Or, heaven forbid, worse!
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:48am
- Stellaboxer
  
  Speaking of RNZ due to atmospheric conditions interfering with my preferred radio station in the car I pressed the auto tuner and found myself listening to RNZ Nine till Noon program for the first time in many many years. The hosts familiar voice soon introduced the hourly news bulletin which led with the Singapore airlines turbulence incident and platformed an “ expert “ who informed the listeners that the dramatic increase in such events was due to climate change! He also pointed out that we should all be very afraid because due to the increase in air travel these incidents would become more common place. What a genius so what is it more turbulence due to climate change or more people flying and therefore experiencing the normal amount of existing turbulence? How would you know the difference?
  News flash more ships at sea, more sailors experience storms must be climate change RUN FOR THE HILLS. I turned it off silence being less irritating, when are we going to stop funding this shite?
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:56am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Unfortunately it goes all the way to the top.
    UN World Meteorolical Organisation ( WMO), was stating that turbalence was because of Climate change.
    Everything always leads to the UN.
    Utter disgrace.
    
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    May 23, 2024 11:09am
  - waikatosinger
    
    Climate change supposedly warms the poles more than the equatorial regions resulting in a world with less extreme temperature variations overall. Since extreme weather is cause by temperature differences, all else being equal this should mean less severe weather. There is no reason to think that “climate change” should lead to more severe wind shear incidents. Quite the opposite actually.
    
    Many so called climate change “experts” these days have expertise in political activism and don’t understand anything about how the weather works.
    
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    May 23, 2024 11:35am
    - Master Mariner
      
      The latest “Go To” for Climate “Scientists” is not the Poles are “Warming” but the Troposhere is Cooling .
      Why ?
      Because they have been proven wrong with sound data regarding Poles Warming and now chosen the “Cooling” of Troposhere due to there being ” Bugger all Data”.
      
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      May 23, 2024 12:40pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    Here is what we are dealing with.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIp8iLaPhbg
    
    ‘You’re CRAZY And Dangerous’ | Meteorologist Jim Dale Says Jail Climate Change Deniers
    
    NASA, NOAA and NIWA are all singing from the same sheet.
    
    Incidently enough, NASA’s Grace Satelite Data does not show any Ocean Sea Level rise. Amazing Data.
    https://grace.jpl.nasa.gov/
    
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    May 23, 2024 4:57pm
- Grunter
  
  Who of us would voluntarily enter this transaction?
  
  Please pay 5% of your annual income to a faceless entity so that they can employ people to teach other people’s kids. And the people we pay (lets call them “teachers”) have a basic maths failure rate of 25% and a basic science failure rate of 58%. However, they will teach young children about the 99 different genders and Maori mythology.
  
  And that is why tax is compulsory legalised theft!
  
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  May 23, 2024 9:23am
- Notsofast
  
  It is vital to explain this education debacle to young women so they never vote left again.
  
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  May 23, 2024 10:04am
- John Loveridge
  
  As a father with children at school, I’m yet to see any justification for all the belly-aching from teachers about how overworked and underpaid they are. Most of them couldn’t work in an iron lung, and many of the ones I encounter are painfully stupid.
  
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  May 23, 2024 11:32am
- fredonas
  
  Yes, but they scored 100% on the marxist claptrap test and could name all 300 pronouns 🙂
  
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  May 23, 2024 1:39pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump gets more free advertising.
Is this Judge Merchan part af the Trump campaign?

https://gopnewsfeed.com/trump-rocked-by-judges-ruling-goes-nuclear/?
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May 23, 2024 8:04am
- redeye
  
  Sorry but that link is do full of advertising it’s almost unreadable.
  
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  May 23, 2024 9:27am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I clicked on it againe 11 ads blocked by ‘Adbock Plus.’
    Adblockers do work, there are 3 on KB.
    
    https://adblockplus.org/
    
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    May 23, 2024 9:57am
  - Red
    
    The Big 3 are essential and free:
    Adblockplus. Ghostery. Youtubenonstop.
    Beware of imposters!
    
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    May 23, 2024 3:40pm
Chuck Bird

Hidden costs of ‘cheap’ solar and wind are too high
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12:00AM May 18, 2024

https://archive.ph/NY6kr
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May 23, 2024 8:05am
- I remember when
  
  As quoted,
  “Last year, China got more additional power from coal than they did from solar and wind.
  India got 3 times as much, whereas Bangladesh got 13 times more coal electricity than they did from green energy sources and Indonesia an astonishing 90 times more.”
  
  A combined 3.276 billion people, 41% of the world’s population.
  
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  May 23, 2024 9:37am
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    But only a small number of foolish naiive countries believe that they should try and keep their “commitments”.
    
    Makes this Deity’s head hurt that NZ will willingly sacrifice its children, its economy and its future to meet the demands of the newly minted climate god and her prophets!
    
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    May 23, 2024 1:27pm
Simon

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
War criminal Netanyahu up in front of ICC.

International Criminal Court. International in the name – that means National will worship it.

NZ recognises the ICC. That means in globalist theory that all of us in NZ democracy must obey ICC.

If charges against Netanyahu the war criminal are proven in the ICC then it’s the obligation of every New Zealander to arrest Netanyahu on sight. No assistance must be rendered to Netanyahu otherwise you may also face prosecution by ICC.

Shortly Netanyahu will be considered leader of a war criminal country Israel.
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May 23, 2024 8:09am
- softail 1450
  
  Simon, No doubt about it he’s just like that other guy Hitler aye ? oh wait.
  It’s a fantastic idea to give credit to an international court system dominated by one continent, Africa, the most corruption riddled human rights denying of all continents.
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:23am
- mandk
  
  Oh dear.
  
  You revealed your bias in the first three words.
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:48am
- cmm
  
  National doesn’t even seem to fussed with NZ laws that they make.
  Why would they worry about ICC?
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:57am
  - Simon
    
    International Crimes and International Criminal Court Act 2000
    
    Section 32Request for arrest and surrender
    (1)
    This Part applies to a request made by the ICC under Article 89(1) of the Statute for the arrest and surrender from New Zealand of—
    (a)
    a person in respect of whom the Pre-Trial Chamber has issued a warrant of arrest under Article 58 or Article 60 of the Statute for an international crime:
    (b)
    a person who has been convicted by the ICC of an international crime.
    
    An Act of NZ parliament. Democracy NZ in action, we all voted for ICC.
    
    War crime is not good. Ok. Netanyahu he is democracy Israel. Not good for all Israelis who vote yes to war crime. Are they all in trouble they next in front of ICC?? Democracy Israel commit war crimes.
    
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    May 23, 2024 9:15am
    - cmm
      
      There are a bunch of similar looking laws surrounding theft, bashing people etc which all get ignored, so why should anyone bother with this one?
      
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      May 23, 2024 10:27am
  - jkt
    
    If Netanyahu, or whoever, is a war criminal then he/they should be dealt with.
    
    I heard him say, second hand mind you, that Israel will get revenge for 7 October 2023. My observation was that he said this in the moment, so his subsequent actions should be analysed.
    
    If he is responsible for war crimes then he should be held to account. Or maybe ….. 🤔 we need a Truth and Reconciliation process. 🤔
    
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    May 23, 2024 9:26am
- Grunter
  
  Simon – you forgot to mention the evil Hamas leaders and the 8 charges they are facing (see below)…obviously intentional on your part! Do you actually support Hamas?
  
  From the ICC:
  On the basis of evidence collected and examined by my Office, I have reasonable grounds to believe that Yahya SINWAR (Head of the Islamic Resistance Movement (“Hamas”) in the Gaza Strip), Mohammed Diab Ibrahim AL-MASRI, more commonly known as DEIF (Commander-in-Chief of the military wing of Hamas, known as the Al-Qassam Brigades), and Ismail HANIYEH (Head of Hamas Political Bureau) bear criminal responsibility for the following war crimes and crimes against humanity committed on the territory of Israel and the State of Palestine (in the Gaza strip) from at least 7 October 2023:
  
  1. Extermination as a crime against humanity, contrary to article 7(1)(b) of the Rome Statute;
  2. Murder as a crime against humanity, contrary to article 7(1)(a), and as a war crime, contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i);
  3. Taking hostages as a war crime, contrary to article 8(2)(c)(iii);
  4. Rape and other acts of sexual violence as crimes against humanity, contrary to article 7(1)(g), and also as war crimes pursuant to article 8(2)(e)(vi) in the context of captivity;
  5. Torture as a crime against humanity, contrary to article 7(1)(f), and also as a war crime, contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i), in the context of captivity;
  6. Other inhumane acts as a crime against humanity, contrary to article 7(l)(k), in the context of captivity;
  7. Cruel treatment as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i), in the context of captivity; and
  8. Outrages upon personal dignity as a war crime, contrary to article 8(2)(c)(ii), in the context of captivity.
  
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  May 23, 2024 9:03am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It’s different when the ‘baddies’ do it.
    
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    May 23, 2024 10:07am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Heres one for the Rape Denying Jew Haters
    https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/05/22/hamas-hostage-video-here-are-the-girls-who-can-get-pregnant-n3788866
    ‘Bodycam footage from the terrorists shows the moment the bloodied young women, operating at the Nahal Oz base outside the Gaza Strip, were handcuffed and pressed against a wall by Hamas while surrounded by the corpses of their colleagues.
    
    In the sickening video, the terrorists could be heard gloating and announcing their plans to sexually assault the soldiers.
    
    “Here are the girls who can get pregnant,” one of the gunmen said. “So beautiful.”
    ‘The video, taken from Hamas terrorists’ body cameras, is a little over three minutes long.
    The forum stated that the decision to release the video was made by the families of the five lookouts who are still being held captive by Hamas, namely Liri Albag, Karina Ariev, Agam Berger, Daniel Gilboa, and Naama Levy.’
    
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    May 23, 2024 3:23pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  You know they have to actually prove he’s committed or commanded the committing of war crimes right?
  They already looked into the commission of war crimes by Israel and didn’t find anything.
  
  This is politics.
  
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  May 23, 2024 9:33am
- Ra Henare
  
  Good on you Simon for voicing YOUR OPINION.
  Knowing you will get attacked in every which way by commenters.
  
  Israel is continuing to loose the PR war.
  
  I get a summary from Haaretz (and other international news sources each day.
  
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  May 23, 2024 2:57pm
  - Grunter
    
    Simon did ‘forget’ to mention the 3 Hamas leaders facing ICC charges of rape, murder, extermination, etc. He clearly posted what he did to solicit a reaction.
    
    BTW, I believe all 5 leaders charged should face capital punishment. They are all guilty of the charges. Plenty of evidence. The entire mess is disgusting.
    
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    May 23, 2024 3:33pm
- Ra Henare
  
  Well done Simon. Sharing your opinion, knowing you will get attached from all quarters.
  
  I get a daily news summary from a number of International news sites. Including Haaretz(Israel)
  
  Todays news was VERY Interesting
  
  https://us18.campaign-archive.com/?e=3a18d540e7&u=d3bceadb340d6af4daf1de00d&id=bee4479d62
  
  Seems Israel is loosing the PR War.
  
  As well as the judgment from ICC, Norway, Spain and Ireland will be recognizing the State of Palestine on 28th May.
  
  Loved this extract
  
  Israel’s Foreign Minister Israel Katz recalled Israel’s ambassadors to Norway, Ireland and Spain for consultations, and summoned their envoys to Israel for a reprimand, during which, he said, they will be shown a video of the October 7 kidnapping of female military spotters.
  
  So Israel thinks that showing an edited video clip from 229 days ago will change any minds or justify their subsequent actions. Especially when the world at large is condemning many of Israels “”war”” actions.
  
  Hilarious PR fail.
  
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  May 23, 2024 3:10pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    ‘edited video clip’
    Yep, a Rape Denier
    What a disgrace
    
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    May 23, 2024 4:18pm
    - Ra Henare
      
      When did I ever deny rape occurred on October 7th. Try NEVER!!
      
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      May 24, 2024 12:00am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Heres a reputable Polling Company
    https://www.pewresearch.org/2024/03/21/majority-in-u-s-say-israel-has-valid-reasons-for-fighting-fewer-say-the-same-about-hamas/
    
    ‘When asked about Hamas’ reasons for fighting Israel, far fewer Americans (22%) describe them as valid. And just 5% of U.S. adults say the way Hamas carried out its Oct. 7 attack on Israel was acceptable, while 66% describe it as completely unacceptable.’
    
    Sorry, who is losing the PR war?
    Your anti semitism is blinding you. That and I don’t think you’re that bright.
    BTW Haaretz hate Netanyahu and would say anything to bring him down and are not an unbiased source (I’m not a fan of him either)
    
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    May 23, 2024 4:29pm
    - Ra Henare
      
      Oh dear, hard to challenge anything when dealing with entrenched ideology.
      
      Like challenging a Jehovah about their belief systems. Brick wall comes to mind.
      
      Oh dear run out of facts so resorting to name calling.
      Calling me an anti semitic falls in line with your other comments to others who challenge your ideological take on things.
      
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      May 24, 2024 12:03am
artemisia

First Home Grants are not that big – $10k for new builds, $5k for existing. There are income limits up to $150k for a household, $90k for a single person. Anyone even halfway to those limits just needs to save hard for a bit longer to meet the grant amount. Doubt many ready to buy FHBs are lower income than that anyway.

I see housing support is under scrutiny. Wonder if the few remaining net taxpayers realise the big bucks involved, $5 billion odd a year for income related rent, Accommodation Supplement, other housing support, including paying rent arrears to stop tenants being turfed out.
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May 23, 2024 8:10am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I commented on this yesterday. There is good evidence that in a tight market, these grants benefit sellers more than buyers. First home buyers are more likely to borrow as much as they can. So gifting them money just means that they can offer more for houses.
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:44am
  - Wayne Mapp
    
    The system didn’t work in an unrestricted way.
    
    There were strict limits on the maximum value of the house with different values according to area. In Auckland $875 K.
    
    Basically first home buyers could get the grant and also access their KiwiSaver (they probably can still do the latter).
    
    They could also have a 10% deposit, including the grant and the KiwiSaver access, instead of the usual 20% deposit. Only some banks offered this. The 10% deposit rule may still apply.
    
    In Auckland this usually meant the first home buyer were buying a new apartment or a small townhouse, with the purchasers having to find $87,500 deposit. For a couple they would have $20,000 First Homeowner grants (for a new home) and $20,000 KiwiSaver drawdown so they needed to save $47,500 (or get some of this from parents).
    
    Apparently 11,000 first home buyers accessed First Home grant in the last year, so a significant number.
    
    Will this impact sales of modest first homes, and will that echo up through the next band of house prices?
    
    It depends if the government cancels all aspects of first home incentives, being the Kiwisaver access and the 10% deposit, in addition to the now cancelled First Home grant.
    
    If the whole lot is binned, I think the effect will be very significant. It would mean all buyers would need 20% deposit, or at least $150,000.
    
    But I presume that only the First Home Grant is going.
    
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    May 23, 2024 9:13am
    - Damocles11
      
      If there are less buyers in the market, and less taxpayer dollars going into the market, prices must surely fall further under the laws of supply and demand. Many are very opposed to falling house prices; I am not one if them. I feel for people who were vaulted onto the ladder through these sort of gimmicks & have ended up paying a price that has them a hostage of enormous debt with very little wiggle room in a souring economy. It was done to maintain the fiction that houses were still affordable, and to allow house flippers and retiring boomers to ‘cash out’ with huge gains.
      
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      May 23, 2024 10:20am
- Matt Long
  
  The huge government rental subsidies surely have no impact on rental pricing, I mean how could an extra 5 billion to be payed to landlords distort the market?
  I’m enthralled that since the eighties there’s been a level playing field in New Zealand.
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:54am
- cmm
  
  It seems like bollocks anyway.
  
  Unless you have significant off-the-books income, you’re really going to struggle to service a mortgage on $90k.
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:56am
  - artemisia
    
    Lenders won’t be looking at off the books income when determining serviceability.
    
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    May 23, 2024 9:33am
    - jkt
      
      Struggle to service!!
      
      I can remember that struggle, after I bought my first house.
      By my recollection, inflation and increasing income quickly diminished the struggle for me at that time.
      
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      May 23, 2024 10:23am
      - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
        
        Yes, the first five years were pretty rugged, after that it settled down.
        
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        May 23, 2024 1:29pm
  - Damocles11
    
    Lenders complain about the CCCFA being too onerous, apparently it is intrusive to find out what people are spending their money on. Stuff like holidays and the like, apparently it’s not important.
    And then inflation turns up, interest rates go up…and we hear that people are struggling to pay their mortgages. But hang on: the ‘stress testing’ is done with a significant buffer built in, and discretionary spending – according to the CCCFA critics – ‘doesn’t really matter’.
    Make it makes sense.
    Personally I think the property industry, mortgage brokers, retail banks have been desperate to ‘keep the party going’. No thought was really given to the real financial discipline and stability of prospective buyers.
    
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    May 23, 2024 10:28am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Trouble with first home buyers is they are lazy in 2024. They want everything given, and pay later with increased wages/salary. Also got to have that 63 inch smart TV, big double door fridge, super sound system, two cars etc.
  Think back 50+ years. How about getting a second and third job? What? No jobs available? Bullshit, they are there if you look. Too proud to sweep and vacuum offices at night? I did it. Working keeps you away from booze and recreational drugs!
  18 hours a day for 5 days, 12 hours Sat, 1/2 day on Sun. A young body can handle that when you have a goal.
  Get off your lazy arses!
  
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  May 23, 2024 9:15am
  - Taieri
    
    18 hours a day for 5 days, 12 hours Sat, 1/2 day on Sun.
    ———–
    
    And what would be the productivity of someone working this sort of hours?
    Zilch!
    
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    May 23, 2024 9:37am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I was doing heavy boat haulage in the early hours, then steel fabrication in the workshop in the day, then cleaning in the evening/night. That was in a 4 story office building. We even had to clean down desks and wash the ashtrays!
      Zilch productivity my left tit. I was 22/24 years old. Young, small and fit.
      With the heavy boat haulage sometimes is meants a 2am start – depending on the tides.
      
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      May 23, 2024 10:15am
      - imalwaysright
        
        S.O
        
        Well said!
        
        To many these days work is just a concept, an interruption to their mental health days and their stress leave.
        
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        May 23, 2024 10:56am
      - Taieri
        
        In the 1980’s I worked for a while in the deep sea fishing industry on the factory vessels. Deck crew were working 12 hours on and 6 hours off. Quite often they would fall asleep on the job. Most of them were in their 20’s.
        
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        May 23, 2024 11:03am
      - jkt
        
        Taieri you are correct.
        
        I too can recall occasions where I worked excessive hours. But I also call bullshit when I see it.
        
        No-one needs to work 12 hours day in, day out to get ahead. No one should need to, either.
        
        The kids today need to get it that life was never easy and never will be. But, the fact stays, hard work and dedication is what creates value for oneself and others.
        
        Own your choices in life.
        
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      - cmm
        
        Taieri: “Quite often they would fall asleep on the job”
        Yeah, that’s only because they were not sleeping at home!
        
        12 hours is bugger all. Many people work that way their whole lives.
        
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        May 23, 2024 12:00pm
      - Taieri
        
        Yeah, that’s only because they were not sleeping at home!
        ———–
        
        They were not at home, they were on the ship at sea.
        
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        May 23, 2024 12:33pm
      - MCōs
        
        When I was that age I was over in London having fun, drinking gallons of beer.
        We didn’t ‘experiment with recreational drugs’; we were right into it!
        Went round Europe in a van for three months having fun.
        In other words did what thousands of other young Kiwis were doing and don’t regret a minute
        Came home. Still managed to buy a house on two salaries a couple of years later
        Guess we must have been lucky
        
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        May 23, 2024 12:35pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        imalwaysright,
        
        wtf is stress? Never had time for that!
        
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        May 23, 2024 12:37pm
  - cmm
    
    There is certainly some of that, but house prices are way higher than they were.
    
    When my peers went on OEs etc, they might have stayed in a squat in London for a few months and backpacked around Europe sometimes sleeping rough or in rat infested backpackers to save money.
    Now even the most “basic” backpackers is three or four star.
    
    That same expectation filters through into starter cars and starter houses: they expect airbags and double glazing etc.
    
    How many people are prepared to work a second job to save for a house? I worked 2 jobs for a year to save up – an extra 30 or so hours a week. We also went into savings mode: running a tight budget, skipping entertainment etc.
    
    If you’re spending all your time trying to “find yourself” and “be the authentic you” and treating yourself to things you “deserve” then don’t complain that you haven’t saved enough.
    
    Still, a cheap house in Christchurch is maybe $400-500k (cheapest 2 bedroom unit in Aranui is $375k). That’s 6 or 7x the average wage and $2500 per month on a 30 year mortgage.
    
    When we bought our first house in 2000 (a 10 acre lifestyle block + house) it cost $195k. My salary at the time was $70k, but $50k would have been close to average – so 4x salary.
    
    Yes, property prices are up, but:
    * People need to wind in their expectations & entitlement.
    * They need to be prepared to work harder and budget to save.
    
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    May 23, 2024 9:57am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      It was all relevant. When I moved to the Shore and started working in steel fabrication, the hourly rate was $1.35. Believe it! Rate was more a few years later when we decided on the new house. When the house price was fixed and building started the house and section cost was $39,000. Now I am paying Rates on $1.4M. In that time I got divorced and bought out my ex wife. Paid 22% on a second mortgage. My first OE was in 2015 when we went to Hawaii and Alaska, true. I have never been to Oz, it’s full of Australians.
      
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      May 23, 2024 10:25am
      - jkt
        
        Thanks for sharing your story.
        A trip from Sydney to Melbourne is cool. Experiencing the public transport and infrastructure is good for the soul.
        
        There is hope for you young fellas!
        
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        May 23, 2024 10:41am
      - Flossie
        
        I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to find Australia is full of Kiwis Steve!
        
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        May 23, 2024 10:59am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        @jkt,
        Good for the soul?
        Tell you what is good for the soul. Hawaii – Alaska for the third time. We have host families up there. They fight over whose place we will stay at!
        Hawaii is a stepping stone, works out well. 3 days each time. We have not been to Maui but have been to the other 2.
        72 soon and I am ready to go!
        
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        May 23, 2024 12:44pm
    - jkt
      
      My salary was 64k in 2000. I bought my first house in NZ for 274k in early 2001. My mortgage was 180k.
      
      In 2008 my annual income was 102k. By 2016 I was mortgage free. In between I leveraged off my mortgage to pay for stuff.
      
      I maintained a handicap below 10 and drank craft beer.
      
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      May 23, 2024 10:36am
    - plc
      
      Wonder how many of these disappointed potential first home buyers went to see Taylor Swift earlier this year?
      
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      May 23, 2024 11:20am
  - lifesgood
    
    Yes, agree, SO. We both worked two jobs and never ate out, well, yes we did, 3 times a year on our birthdays and wedding anniversary. Were in our own house at the ages of 20 and 23. Never went clothes shopping, had a hand me down TV and sat on the floor for the first year because we had minimal furniture. I have no time at all for the whinging lazy arses of today. And they have the cheek to tell us we had it easy!
    
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    May 23, 2024 10:03am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Moved into my new house and slept on a mattress on the floor, the wooden floor, no carpet or vinyl. TV was also on the floor (one leg broke off so I removed the other 3) Thinking back it was hard, but fun, and I had MY house, not paying out to some other bastard.
      Clothe shopping? I have bee seen walking and window shoppin in my workshop overalls.
      As I have said above, the young ones of 2024 are lazy! 🙂
      
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      May 23, 2024 10:29am
    - jkt
      
      I am sorry you deprived yourself of so many of the pleasures in life.
      
      I hope you are catching up now. You are entitled to spoil yourself.
      
      You are unlikely to catch me in a restaurant, by choice …..
      
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      May 23, 2024 10:47am
    - artemisia
      
      DINKs, young and working each with a bit in savings and Kiwisaver, could start small, pay it off as fast as poss and use the equity to trade up. Small – like a studio apartment or a 1 beddie do up unit in the burbs.
      
      It’s an option. Some will do it.
      
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      May 23, 2024 1:18pm
  - Damocles11
    
    Not really fair Steve. House prices are at a level where what is being asked is obscene. It is not the fault of young couples that someone else paid too much for their asset, or wants to cash out at 2020 prices and won’t budge. I know many young people who work very hard and have big dreams for their future. Rather than burying themselves in debt here, they will go to Australia as they should. They will earn more, inflation is lower, they will ‘get ahead’ in a wealthy country that exploits its abundant natural resources. Here’s the factors that have changed in the economy and country since 2020:
    
    – Inflation turned up in a big way, and is currently at 4.7%
    – The OCR increased from 0.25% to 5.5%
    – Government COVID stimulus wound down.
    – House consenting and construction boomed.
    – Thousands of people have lost or are losing their jobs, and we are in a recession.
    – Council rate increases are out of control.
    – Insurance increases are out of control.
    – There was a record net migration loss of 52,500 New Zealand citizens in the year ended March 2024.
    – Crime in New Zealand is seemingly out of control.
    – New Zealand is now being described as a ‘quasi-democracy’ where tribal elites seek to gain the power of veto over government decisions. Race relations are in the pits.
    – New Zealand’s infrastructure is crumbling after decades of under-investment.
    – The Left have a firm grip of most power structures in the country.
    
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    May 23, 2024 10:47am
- Paulus
  
  I did not understand until now that the First Homes Grant is a taxpayers gift and not subject to any repayments and interest.
  Serious Capital Gain too as property values increase.
  It is our Money !
  
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  May 23, 2024 11:22am
  - Damocles11
    
    In order for past governments to maintain the fiction that houses were still ‘affordable’ to buy for people who didn’t own a home, they had to use these gimmicks. A gift from the taxpayer + raid your KiwiSaver account + whatever savings you can scrape together. Many of these people will now be under severe financial pressure due to higher interest rates, inflation, council rates, and insurance costs. It is disgusting what happened, could never have been enabled without the retail banks massively increasing their lending.
    
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    May 23, 2024 12:27pm
    - jkt
      
      Living the good life……. 🤨
      
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      May 23, 2024 3:25pm
Southern Raider

How many more radical left staff does Auckland Uni have hiding in plain site.

We now have the Director of Admissions for the Medical School spewing anti Jewish conspiracy’s on social media. How does Auckland Uni think that makes Jewish Med students think and what are their chances of being admitted if it’s discovered they are “Jews”?

How this has been allowed to happen and fester inside our public institutions is horrifying.
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May 23, 2024 8:12am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The Auckland Uni is infested with them. I won’t bother naming them but I can think of about 6 off hand. They make themselves known in the news.
  
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  May 23, 2024 10:35am
- kowtow
  
  Have you any links so we can have a better look at this outrage?
  
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  May 23, 2024 12:42pm
Simon

Comrades just remember when wanked out race welfare Marxists call National right wing it doesn’t actually make National right wing.

You may also read in MSM that National is right wing. This as you all should know is MSM assigning the general population their opinions.
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May 23, 2024 8:12am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  National is Labout Lite.
  
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  May 23, 2024 10:36am
graham

I see that Ghost posted this quite late last night, so many people may not have seen it … but I think it’s worthy of attention.

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/05/general_debate_22_may_2024.html#comment-3562946

Apparently, yet another Green MP is under scrutiny for behaviour in the House after letting loose the f-bomb during a fiery debate on immigration. This time, it’s Ricardo Menéndez March, who was recorded swearing during an interaction with Labour’s Phil Twyford.

What is it with these clowns and their utter lack of self-control?

https://www.waikatotimes.co.nz/politics/350286851/green-mp-unleashes-f-bomb-parliament
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May 23, 2024 8:15am
- kowtow
  
  Poor Phil .
  
  Not doing well with these pro Hamas Greens about.
  
  He was giving a speech to a pro Hamas mob in Auckland , and was jeered off the stage and had to have a police escort out of the park.
  
  Bt the genocidal screaming Swarbrick followed him on the stage and went off ranting about pro bad shit , never said anything about poor Phil’s rights to politely address the Mob , that’s the democratic “kiwi” way afterall .
  
  In fact she endorsed his “deplatforming” most emphatically , while the Green MP caucus stood behind her in “solidarity” , including the Little Turd in question. ( per Bob Jones)
  
  https://www.tiktok.com/@ani.obrien/video/7297723561450556674
  
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  May 23, 2024 12:52pm
Suze Wainwright

Good *^#@ing morning everyone!

Best,

Ricardo
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May 23, 2024 8:17am
pdm

I hear `The Mex’ aimed the F word at Phil Twyford in the Parliamentary Chamber last evening.

No mention of it that I could see in either The Herald or on Stuff or on NewstalkZB news.
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May 23, 2024 8:17am
- graham
  
  pdm – Ghost posted about this quite late last night in GD.
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/05/general_debate_22_may_2024.html#comment-3562946
  
  And a link:
  
  https://www.waikatotimes.co.nz/politics/350286851/green-mp-unleashes-f-bomb-parliament
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:20am
- alex Masterley
  
  It was mentioned on Newstalk as I was driving to the office at 7am.
  Why we have this grifter in Parliament is beyond me.
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:22am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Because he’s not yet been found out, like a number of his erstwhile colleagues have been?
    
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    May 23, 2024 8:29pm
- kiwikidsnz
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350282580/nz-politics-live-green-mp-unleashes-f-bomb-parliament
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:24am
- Chuck Bird
  
  Green MP unleashes f-bomb in Parliament
  
  https://www.waikatotimes.co.nz/politics/350286851/green-mp-unleashes-f-bomb-parliament
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:26am
- softail 1450
  
  pdm, It depends on the context of using the word , maybe the Mex had heard that Phil was “ turning” and just wanted to get a good few words in for himself 😂😂.
  Seriously though how else could this woke queer get his name in the news like it has today?
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:27am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It is just the left showing they are desperate.
    
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    May 23, 2024 10:41am
- pdm
  
  Was on NewstalkZB news at 8.30am.
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:50am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Just another example of these folk becoming enraged when someone has a different view.
  
  JAG admitted yesterday that she sometimes goes into “fight or flight” mode when she is faced with someone who has different views. She is going to get counselling to cope better AKA as anger management. These MPs are representative of a cohort of people on the left who become triggered if they are offended or “feel unsafe”.
  
  We have had MPs who successfully navigated wars, depressions, and natural disasters. Yet here we are today with MPs who lose their minds because they don’t get their own way on cycleways, or support services for asylum seekers.
  
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  May 23, 2024 9:00am
  - I remember when
    
    “she sometimes goes into ‘FIGHT (or flight)’
    
    Fixed it
    
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    May 23, 2024 9:06am
- Simon
  
  Thats highly skilled immigrant the Mex Gween turd. Just brings so much skill into backward NZ.
  
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  May 23, 2024 9:20am
- MCōs
  
  One of the things I remember from my time at St Joseph’s Primary School was the shocked reaction from the nuns when I said ‘bloody’
  Around the same time Sir Ed said he’d knocked the bastard off and a few years later Peter Jones said he was absolutely buggered.
  Yesterday Rob Penney calls some TV1 reporter a cunt and Ricardo Menéndez March, who is regularly slandering on this forum for being gay &/or born elsewhere, says fuck to some Labour MP who is suitable shocked.
  
  Reminds me of the kindergarten teacher who picked up the phone and a little voice yells out ’poos and whez’ followed by a whole lot of kids laughing
  
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  May 23, 2024 9:39am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Sir Ed’s commemt was great.
    A few years ago we took the grandkids to the summit of Rangitoto. There seemed to be a lot from Auckland Uni that day. A Professor (yes he had his nametag) standing next to me said to another younger Asian woman “well we knocked the bastard off”
    So I said to him “It’s a bloody hill, not Everest!”
    You know that deadpan look you get from the Public Sector? That was him right then.
    
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    May 23, 2024 10:51am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Sir Ed was a virgin when he knocked the bastard off.
      Fact.
      
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      May 23, 2024 11:07am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Are you sure he was not meaning a beehive?
        
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        May 23, 2024 12:49pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        No, S.O, he wasn’t known for his bad beehiveour.
        Saved it till he was married.
        To paraphrase AC/DC -that’s a long way to the top if you wanna rocknroll!😛
        
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        May 23, 2024 1:11pm
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    It’s not slander to tell the truth.
    
    Menendez promotes himself as gay.
    
    Menendez is from Mexico.
    
    Slander is making stuff up to damage someone’s character and reputation.
    
    Menendez is not slandered on KB for being gay or Mexican. He may get put down for these aspects, but that is not a crime.
    
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    May 23, 2024 10:03pm
Maggie Pie

“BE GHEY. DO CRIME”

Yet another Green MP is under scrutiny for his/her behaviour.

Labour’s Phil Twyford says…. he was “absolutely stunned” at the display by Ricardo March yesterday when he dropped the F-bomb in Parliament.

– The Post (22May, 2024) paywalled
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May 23, 2024 8:18am
- Gravelroad
  
  Not sure why Mr Twyford was “absolutely stunned” at this (alleged) juvenile display in parliament.
  Surely most people know by now that the Green Party has no decent standards of behaviour.
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:26am
  - softail 1450
    
    Gravelroad. ,I’m surprised Phil would be “absolutely stunned” by that word as I’m sure he’d have heard it hundreds of time from his own caucus members preceded by “go” and followed by “yourself” when discussing his impressive showing in the Kiwibuid debacle,..
    
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    May 23, 2024 8:35am
  - smttc
    
    Apparently Twyford didn’t even hear the f word. So only God knows why he was absolutely stunned.
    
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    May 23, 2024 9:16am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes, and I see Genter head nodding has got stronger and stronger as the week has gone by
    
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    May 23, 2024 9:25am
    - imalwaysright
      
      I think the Greenies have been getting acting lessons.
      Check this out with the sound off,
      https://x.com/NZQandA/status/1791978605246902363
      
      (Courtesy of M Pie)
      
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      May 23, 2024 11:15am
- Maggie Pie
  
  And this….
  
  ‘New Green MP Ricardo March attracts outpouring of abuse and a removal petition
  in first week after ridiculing Oath-of-Allegiance’ to the Queen’.
  
  “I don’t understand how some random bloke from Tijuana moves from a third world sh*thole to a civilised first world country and then craps all over us as if it was a Tijuana slum”
  
  – STUFF (28 Oct. 2020)
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:38am
- cmm
  
  I wonder what sort of “special training” Mexiboy is going to get?
  
  Maybe he will bullshit us he was just trying to explain things to Twyford in rap.
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:50am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  ¡joder!
  
  Serious Question to folks who speak English as a 2nd language…
  
  Do you naturally curse/use expletives in your 1st language or in English?
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:57am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I think that it varies. People who are not fluent in English will revert to their native language when they become emotional. However IIRC there have been studies that people who are highly proficient in English as a second language are more likely to express emotions and “swear” in English. Except the French. 😂
    
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    May 23, 2024 9:13am
  - jkt
    
    No, when expressing our views to an audience, we use swearwords that those we target get what we mean. We want to nail our opinions down!
    
    When I miss the nail and hit my thumb I use whatever expletive that comes to mind.
    
    When musing to ourselves, we revert back to our unintelligible expletives and are embarrassed when someone nearby understands our mutterings.
    
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    May 23, 2024 9:36am
  - Local Miller
    
    Changes from person to person. My wife is German but after 38 years being married to a pedantic English speaker, English is her first language. She still swears in German, but in her case because she considers German swear words as less disgusting than English swear words.
    
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    May 23, 2024 9:48am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      My Dad used to swear in Afrikaan. Can’t remember the words, but he learnt from his father who came from Capetown.
      
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      May 23, 2024 10:57am
      - imalwaysright
        
        I’m Irish and, personally, swear a lot. But, apart from when watching the news, I have rarely sworn in anger.
        The swear words are great adjectives when used appropriately .
        
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        May 23, 2024 11:22am
      - jkt
        
        Imal:
        That is a F….. great comment!
        
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        May 23, 2024 11:49am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        “F’ is a good vern for a pronoun.
        It’s that fucking Steve Otto again!
        
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        May 23, 2024 12:51pm
      - zulumonster
        
        Afrikaans has some great swear words … my wife uses them a little too often for my liking …
        
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        May 23, 2024 1:50pm
  - cmm
    
    I am English as a 1st language but I prefer to swear in my second language: Afrikaans.
    
    But then for me most of my Afrikaans was learned in the army, or amongst Cape Couloureds, which are both very swear environment. Every third word is “fok” or one of the girly-bit words – often prefixed with “jou ma se” (your mother’s).
    
    I don’t recall Afrikaners swearing much in English. And I never hear a Cape Coloured person swear in English.
    
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    May 23, 2024 10:13am
    - jkt
      
      Afrikaners just add any swearword from any language we come across to our vocabulary. We are not language Critical especially when it comes to swearing.🤬
      
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      May 23, 2024 10:56am
      - cmm
        
        Maybe Afrikaans has moved on a bit since the 1990s, but that CIT heist driver bloke was still saying “fok, poes kont” same as I would have used in the Army.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGZLYx8StWk
        
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        May 23, 2024 11:46am
      - jkt
        
        CMM
        Bosbefok!
        
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        May 23, 2024 3:33pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Colour ed we say. My Dad said “Colour reds”
      
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      May 23, 2024 10:58am
      - cmm
        
        Cape Coloureds are mixed race people who mainly speak Afrikaans.
        
        I could have said Klonkie but some people think that is offensive.
        
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        May 23, 2024 11:37am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Is “ghey” your code for “gay”? If the MP from Mexico was heterosexual, he would behave better and have sensible views?
  
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  May 23, 2024 9:05am
  - Yabster
    
    jesus BY- sometimes!- maggies just posting what that dickhead actually said himself in his maiden speech, so before you get your back up about gay comments as you seem too often do- do some fucking research.
    
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    May 23, 2024 9:16am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    FGS Bene….appreciate English is your 2nd language, but get with the program!
    
    Adjective – ghey. (comparative) gheyer. (superlative) gheyest.
    
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    May 23, 2024 9:25am
    - jkt
      
      Thanks for the education.
      I think yu may appreciate your effort, but somehow I feel you are wasting your time on educating yu.
      
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      May 23, 2024 11:02am
  - cmm
    
    “If the MP from Mexico was heterosexual, he would behave better and have sensible views?”
    
    Perhaps he would not behave better, but people would be more inclined to call him out.
    
    Call him out for his bad behaviour and you will be labelled homophobic. This is a shield used to hide behind and allow bad behaviour.
    
    See how far you would get with “Be white and commit crime”.
    
    Society sets lower expectations for behaviour (and achievement) for anyone like this: gays, wimminz, people of colour,…
    
    Do you think a white, male politician would have got the treatment Kiri Allen did?
    
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    May 23, 2024 10:20am
    - jkt
      
      But she was colonised!!
      
      …. or has she colonised herself 🧐
      
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      May 23, 2024 11:04am
      - imalwaysright
        
        Plunket made a good point on the Platform a few days ago:
        Instead of accepting the pejorative “Colonisers”, we should insist that our forebears be referred to as “Pioneers” or “Settlers”
        
        Words seem to matter, lets start using our own.
        
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        May 23, 2024 11:28am
      - cmm
        
        imalways:
        I prefer:
        * Civilisors
        * Enlighteners.
        * …
        
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        May 23, 2024 11:40am
      - jkt
        
        Imal..
        The pioneers colonised us.
        Yeah, that sounds better than we got fuc..d!
        
        And for CMM’s entertainment: Holpomp.
        
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        May 23, 2024 3:37pm
  - Damocles11
    
    Looks like you are copping it. Here’s some more info –
    
    Ghey
    Adjective edit · (Internet slang, derogatory) Deliberate misspelling of gay (homosexual).
    
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    May 23, 2024 12:30pm
- MCōs
  
  Was that the same Phil Twyford who complained in 2015 that people with Chinese sounding names caused the housing shortage in Auckland?
  Which is worse, out and out xenophobia or a bit of bad language?
  
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  May 23, 2024 1:28pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

Buried in this report is the casual mention that then-chief executive Peter Winder altered the contracts of six senior managers late last year to give them the option of taking voluntary redundancy over the following 12 months.

Meanwhile, a third of NZ’s budgeting services have lost their public funding – this in the midst of an economic crisis – another Labour initiative unfunded beyond June 2024.

I’ll let you ponder where the value to taxpayers sits.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/517568/te-pukenga-pays-216k-for-advice-on-how-to-replace-itself

http://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/517550/dozens-of-free-budgeting-services-face-closure-after-missing-out-on-funding
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May 23, 2024 8:19am
Flossie

Don’t blame Crusaders coach Penny for his profanity regarding a certain reporter. Partner and I rather had the same opinion of the little creep after watching his rude questioning.
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May 23, 2024 8:20am
- graham
  
  Flossie, I still remember the appalling display from Jenny-May Clarkson in 2018. The Silver Ferns had lost to England at the Commonwealth Games, meaning there would be no chance of playing for the gold medal. The Silver Ferns were distraught, and Jenny-May Clarkson decided that this would be a perfect time to make this comment to the captain Katrina Grant:
  
  “A lot of people back home are saying that there doesn’t seem to be any pride in the black dress … ummm … I’m sure you girls have some (long talks) about what all this means and of course you know in terms of the results, they haven’t been quite what you wanted.”
  
  Unsurprisingly, Katrina Grant was reduced to tears. It was just mean, and there was absolutely no need for Jenny-May Clarkson to go there.
  
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  May 23, 2024 10:08am
- Jack5
  
  We briefly discussed this creep’s interview technique in general debate late last night.
  
  He seems ambitious to be another Jack Tame.
  
  His interview technique was beyond insulting.
  
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  May 23, 2024 10:17am
  - MCōs
    
    On the other hand Rob Penney didn’t do himself any favours with his surly replies.
    The performance of the Crusaders under his leadership has been abysmal as was the Waratahs before them.
    I suppose when not much is going right and you’re chewing on life’s gristle it’s pretty hard to look on the bright side of life
    
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    May 23, 2024 11:07am
    - Jack5
      
      “Surly replies”?
      
      Penney was obviously stunned by the aggressive, insulting barrage from the TV hack.
      
      Many folk, if they’d been Penney, would have been sorely tempted to clock the creep, regardless of the disastrous effect on their own career.
      
      I’ve never seen anything near as aggressive or rude in a sports interview.
      
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      May 23, 2024 11:30am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I guess he is just human 🙁. I know little about rugby but from what I understand, this team had a reversal of fortunes of historic proportions. Coaches don’t tend to survive such things.
  
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  May 23, 2024 10:50am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Shit I hit Report instead of Reply, sorry.
    It is easier to sack one person instead of the whole Team.
    My view is that the Coach’s job is to coach, but the Coach was not playing on the field. The not so good players, the ones who fumbled, the ones who made the mistakes should be reprimanded, not the Coach.
    
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    May 23, 2024 11:10am
  - Flossie
    
    Fair enough to ask some questions but the sheer arrogance of the reporter’s manner was something to behold.
    
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    May 23, 2024 12:06pm
    - kowtow
      
      That wasn’t a “press conference” or interview as billed by the lying media .
      
      It was an interogation .
      
      I see the (banned noun) as his victim described him is not a sports reporter and that might account for his shit style and clearly prepared questions .
      
      It’s just such a pity that folk put in front of cameras can’t hit back wirth questions such as ;
      
      I see tvnz is losing money and failing , how you feel about dat , do you feel responsible , etc
      
      And yes these faces are responsible as they are so shit and nasty who’d really want to watch as you learn nothing from an “interview’ like that other than how shit our media are and how they deserve to crash and burn.
      
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      May 23, 2024 1:45pm
- kowtow
  
  I reckon that was an own goal by tvnz including the post interview comment .deleted expletive .
  
  I suspect most people watching would agree with the coach re his description of that little prick .
  
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  May 23, 2024 1:49pm
imalwaysright

“Police reported they were aware of ducks that had been stolen and they were concerned for the welfare of one of the ducks,” O’Hagan said.”

You couldn’t make this up.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/whanganui-chronicle/news/whanganui-police-investigating-following-reports-of-duck-thefts/EKEMRCC2XNDM3FK4XU6MI4MYIY/
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May 23, 2024 8:34am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Really? Seems totally reasonable.
  
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  May 23, 2024 10:52am
  - imalwaysright
    
    You need your head read mate. The country is at a turning point of crime, and you think that ducks are a legitimate use of police time.
    
    Check this out https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/ponsonby-petrol-station-bashing-off-duty-paramedic-comes-to-rescue-police-fail-to-show/NQH7OC7QLJBKRDIARRC4QECS7A/
    
    The Indian man and the paramedic or the duck?
    
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    May 23, 2024 1:53pm
    - Ghost
      
      That Indian man also had an off duty police officer looking after him
      
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      May 23, 2024 1:59pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        It was a paramedic.
        
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        May 23, 2024 2:17pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      I am not your mate. 😠
      
      Are you seriously suggesting that the police ignore wildlife being attacked? Idiots who attack or kill animals are likely also involved in other criminal activities.
      
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      May 23, 2024 2:21pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        Yes mate
        
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        May 23, 2024 5:28pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Maybe they should look in Mr Policeman’s oven.//
  
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  May 23, 2024 11:15am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Flying Squad
    
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    May 23, 2024 11:57am
Maggy Wassilieff

The Nasty Pāti

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2024/05/applause-in-parliament-as-karen-chhour-condemns-personal-attacks-from-te-p-ti-m-ori-about-her-upbringing.html.
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May 23, 2024 8:37am
- Maggie Pie
  
  We watched that on the replay of ‘QT’ last nite.
  Those three nasty b*tches from Labour & TPM were an absolute embarassement!
  
  People need to understand, that if Maoris didn’t keep bashing their kids, we wouldn’t even need a useless outfit like Oranga Tamariki.
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:47am
  - cmm
    
    Yup, they don’t need to stop entirely. Just start “acting white”.
    
    Of course we can never eliminate family violence from our shores any more than we can achieve zero fatality on our roads.
    
    But “we” can do a lot better – starting with the biggest problem area.
    
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    May 23, 2024 8:54am
    - David Garrett
      
      cmm: The starting point for doing a lot better is to acknowledge what my kids call “the unspoken truth”, i.e that most of the babies and kids bashed to death in this country are Maori.
      
      IMO that is a direct result of young Maori women having successive “partners” who often bash or kill the evidence of the last partner who shared “the missus’ bed.
      
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      May 23, 2024 9:21am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        You may have missed my post yesterday DG… worth another look.
        
        https://twitter.com/actparty/status/1793035830430138683
        
        (full screen/sound up)
        
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        May 23, 2024 9:31am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        SOCKs – Whaleoil.
        
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        May 23, 2024 9:50am
      - jkt
        
        MP
        This is an attempt to get under one’s skin, in order to get one to support hate speech legislation.
        
        Harm done. TMP are now campaigning for Act and National. ….. or is this an AI generated meme composed in a Christchurch back room by a white skinhead.
        
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        May 23, 2024 9:51am
      - imalwaysright
        
        S.O
        What is Socks?
        
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        May 23, 2024 2:15pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      We hear about the dead children, but we don’t hear about the many more being tortured on a daily basis who wish they were dead.
      Those would consider the dead ones the lucky ones.
      
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      May 23, 2024 12:35pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        You mean like the Israeli hostages Hamas took?
        
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        May 23, 2024 6:33pm
- mandk
  
  The treatment of Karen Chhour by left wing Maori has been vicious and ugly.
  
  But she has risen above it with grace and dignity.
  
  Kia kaha Karen!
  
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  May 23, 2024 9:03am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  A MP pesonally bringing up another MP’s upbringing just means they have nothing to go on Politically. Just filling in time to look good. It backfired.
  
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  May 23, 2024 11:17am
- Ghost
  
  Heather made a good point yesterday talking to soper. If this was a non Māori acting the way the Māori party are there would be complaints to the race relations commissioner
  
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  May 23, 2024 11:22am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Same as if Palestine were bombing the crap out of Israel, Israel would be calling it genocide .
    
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    May 23, 2024 12:39pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Ummm
      Hamastan is bombing the crap out of Israel
      Well, were. Not so much these days
      Lol
      
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      May 23, 2024 1:47pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        Lol?
        Its not a fucking laughing matter .
        People are dying.
        
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        May 23, 2024 2:17pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Just for you JH
        https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/05/22/hamas-hostage-video-here-are-the-girls-who-can-get-pregnant-n3788866
        
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        May 23, 2024 2:59pm
Hugh Jarse

When is the speaker of the house going to start imposing standards on dress and behaviour in the house ?. What are the impediments to re-applying a decent dress and behaviour standards on the inhabitants of parliament ?. Will they go on strike, will they build a tented protest camp, will they stamp their little feet ?, would requiring standards be a breach of the Treaty of Waitangi ?.
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May 23, 2024 8:42am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The Highest Court in the land and they can’t even put on a tie.
  
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  May 23, 2024 11:19am
  - imalwaysright
    
    I wonder if they buy their costumes on expenses.
    
    Brownlee has to start telling these pricks to line up in an orderly fashion and start respecting the office to which they have been elected.
    
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    May 23, 2024 12:43pm
Flossie

I received an email request to participate in a survey about my interactions with a health provider. First question was would I like to complete it in English or Maori. I chose English so wondered why I then had to navigate around Aoteoroa, whanau, nga whatever etc etc.
If I had wanted the Maori option I would’ve said so at question 1!
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May 23, 2024 8:47am
- Benedict Yu
  
  As I have commented many times, AFAIK New Zealand is the only developed country with two official languages, where the languages are “mixed together” in official communications.
  
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  May 23, 2024 10:04am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The Coup slowly creeps in – just like cancer.
    Sometimes you don’t find out until it is too late.
    
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    May 23, 2024 11:24am
    - imalwaysright
      
      That’s right. The sheep are heading to the ramp to the abattoir.
      
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      May 23, 2024 2:20pm
- PurplePen
  
  Good point. Speak or write in English or Maori, but not some mix of the two sometimes referred to as Manglish.
  
  BTW .. had reason to complete a form to register with a new medical centre and GP. One of the questions asked what gender were you at birth, the next asked (optional) what gender do you identify as. You would think a medical centre would know that there is no such thing as gender at birth, only sex. Presumably if you could talk to the infant as it shot out of the vagina you might be able to then ask it what gender it considered themselves to be within human society.
  
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  May 23, 2024 10:18am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    “Speak or write in English or Maori, but not some mix of the two sometimes referred to as Manglish.”
    
    It seems a lost battle.
    
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    May 23, 2024 10:55am
    - Jack5
      
      Economic reality will reinforce English as the main language of this country, so dependent on tourism and international trade.
      
      NZ Pidgin will be but a lingering fringe as early 21st century Wokies fade into social obsolescence.
      
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      May 23, 2024 11:04am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        There is no sign of that. Quite the opposite. It is not just language. To get a job ss@and a public servant you need to demonstrate that “you are on your te ao Maori journey”. You can be highly competent for the actual job. No te ao Maori journey no job. The state sector has doubled down on these requirements under the current government.
        
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        May 23, 2024 2:52pm
    - PurplePen
      
      Jack5’s point is right .. it will fade in time being that it’s a fad albeit one that’s hanging around like a bad smell.
      
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      May 23, 2024 4:07pm
I remember when

Kiri Allan’s future in politics remains unclear after guilty plea.”

So what positions in Cabinet would she qualify for with two DIC convictions, one of which resulted in a potentially dangerous (but constantly understated) accident.
Justice?
Transport?
Corrections?
Police?
Courts?
Workplace Relations and Safety?
Maori Development?
Education?
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May 23, 2024 8:58am
- Maggie Pie
  
  According to Chippie… “All of the above”
  
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  May 23, 2024 9:53am
  - Ghost
    
    I think next election she will be standing for Māori party
    
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    May 23, 2024 12:01pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  She’s Ria Hall’s campaign manager in Tauranga.
  
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  May 23, 2024 10:06am
  - imalwaysright
    
    There’s always an optimist!
    
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    May 23, 2024 12:47pm
Matt Long

The US Supreme Court in a surprising majority decision has okayed government agencies raising funds outside the purview of Congress giving government agencies more power to work for outside interests.
In this case it’s an agency set up by ultra progressive Elizabeth Pocahontas Warren, that is funded by the Federal Reserve.
https://youtu.be/_0jH8-9_5Fs?si=OQYPJNemSDTNkyFt
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May 23, 2024 9:04am
Matt Long

Thank heaven for Moko Tepania of the Far North District Council, who is going to save those poor Hamas freedom fighters from the nasty Israelis.
Progressive Councillors, focussing on the important things, thanks Helen Clark.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/far-north-mayor-moko-tepania-wants-immediate-humanitarian-ceasefire-in-gaza/LYCS2SSGPZBJJLBGWH63P2PS4Q/
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May 23, 2024 9:12am
- Matt Long
  
  Te Pania has joined around 50 mayors and regional council heads who don’t believe who don’t believe their voters should get a say on race based elections.
  https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/05/22/exclusive-over-50-mayors-chairs-critical-of-govts-maori-ward-changes/
  
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  May 23, 2024 9:51am
  - kowtow
    
    They are anti democracy and need to be named so voters can know .
    
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    May 23, 2024 1:38pm
Maggie Pie

LEST-WE-FORGET OCT. 7 🙁

A family’s never seen b4 vid. Nearly 4m views in the last 12 hours.

Discretion Advised.

https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1793297402285138349
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May 23, 2024 9:18am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Compulsory viewing for all of those dicks waving Palestine flags at protests in NZ.
  I really think they are too thick to comprehend it, they are just anti Israel because their friends told them to protest.
  
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  May 23, 2024 9:39am
  - kowtow
    
    The flag wavers don’t care.
    
    They know full well what happened on Oct 7 .
    
    What bothers me is how virtue signalling political leaders ( ireland , spain , norway) can declare on foot of this that there must be a Palestinian state .
    
    Think about it , you idiots , a Palestinian state will be chock full of haters , rapists , abducters and murderers . And will be dedicated to destroying Israel.
    
    Meanwhile how can young women , tv “stars” , etc have no pity for the very same people like themselves .Like those poor young women. Nova party goers . And they side with the scum of the earth who invaded Israel that terrible morning . Ultra conservative men bent on hate , murder and rape!
    
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    May 23, 2024 1:32pm
NoCash

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2024/05/new-teachers-fail-to-make-the-grade-on-maths-and-science-knowledge-study.html

Appalling capabilities of many new primary school teachers, we are fucked as a nation.
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May 23, 2024 9:23am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Kids that try hard are smarter and better educated than the Teachers.
  The Teachers are really Marxist indoctrinators.
  
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  May 23, 2024 9:42am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    Some of them are Marxist indoctrinators. More of them are young people who thought it would be cool to get a degree in drama, design, or media studies, then realized they have no useful skills that an employer will pay for so resorted to becoming a primary school teacher.
    
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    May 23, 2024 10:42am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Unemployable, I have dealt with them. Metal fabrication workshop 8am. “drill a hole here” 10am “where is the hole?” “you didn’t tell me what size” “I gave you a bolt, drill a hole so the bolt can go through”
      
      Later on to the boss “send him on his way, he is fucking thick and useless”
      
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      May 23, 2024 12:58pm
- NothingLeft
  
  Individualised AI tutors are going to take over most teaching over next few years; GPT4 etc is already ‘smarter’ than most adults, far more creative, and in the case of STEM will have instant access to vastly more information, tools and problem sets to assist in teaching as well as being able to adapt specific teaching styles to students and track their progress with timely revision and ongoing assessment.
  
  Stupid teachers won’t be a problem anymore, and all students will benefit from the typically 2 sigma (2 standard deviations, eg an average student becomes top 3%) improvement that comes from personalized tutoring over classroom style teaching.
  
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  May 23, 2024 10:56am
  - Taieri
    
    GPT4 etc is already ‘smarter’ than most adults, far more creative
    ———–
    
    It is neither “smart” nor “creative”. It’s just a set of algorithms. It CAN”T think!
    
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    May 23, 2024 11:16am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Taeri,
      Exactly. Its basically an advanced spellchecker algorithm.
      The problem is that many are too stupid to realise when a Chat answer is wrong, and even fewer are capable of formulating a question that is useful, relevant, and unambiguous .
      Chaos will ensue.
      
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      May 23, 2024 11:36am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        That is it. Comprehending the answer. It goes way back to the first digital calculators.
        Multiplying and pushing the wrong button and not knowing. The answer must be correct because the calculator said so.
        There is no comprehension that the answer is way off what is expected.
        
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        May 23, 2024 1:02pm
  - NoCash
    
    I’m not sure the majority of primary school age students would benefit from AI tutors. At that age, especially the younger ones, group learning with a capable and inspiring teacher would be more effective IMO.
    
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    May 23, 2024 11:34am
  - NoCash
    
    Primary school is the most important IMO, as it builds the foundation for future learning.
    
    It’s even more important for students who are not the brightest and smartest (who can excel already regardless of the quality of the teachers), or students without capable parents who can tutor their kids.
    
    Capable and inspiring primary school teachers are essential for the less fortunate / privileged students and parents, crucial to breaking the low socioeconomic cycle.
    
    Maths and science are essential for developing critical thinking, which is sadly lacking nowadays…
    
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    May 23, 2024 12:17pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      Nocash
      That is correct. The first years are the most important. NZ seems to babysit kids with crap teachers until they get to college and then try to teach them the hard stuff.
      Good luck.
      Its like trying to train a 5 year old dog and expecting the same results as with a three month old pup.
      
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      May 23, 2024 12:56pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Who deserves the top gongs?

https://pointofordernz.wordpress.com/2024/05/22/why-has-einstein-medalist-roy-kerr-never-been-knighted/
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May 23, 2024 9:36am
- Maggie Pie
  
  ‘Dame’ Jacinda was a mathematician – wasn’t she? 😀 😀 😀
  
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  May 23, 2024 9:44am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Never found out. I didn’t understand the word soup waffle.
    Yip, yip, that’s what it is.
    
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    May 23, 2024 9:47am
    - Tarquin North
      
      I’m fairly sure Robbo wasn’t.
      
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      May 23, 2024 9:54am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        He had that roving decimal point!
        
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        May 23, 2024 1:03pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Actually,
    She once mocked Simon Bridges for using normal averaging for increasing rental prices under the Labour Government.
    
    She argued that everyone knows you should use a method that removed outliers instead (I think she suggested Geometric Smoothing).
    
    Of course, that meant that her version removed all the spikes in rental prices that directly related to her Government’s anti landlord policies.
    
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    May 23, 2024 10:17am
  - mandk
    
    She was.
    
    She could work out the cost of two fish and one scoop in her head in less than the time it took to fry and wrap them.
    
    Genius.
    
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    May 23, 2024 10:21am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Brilliant
      
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      May 23, 2024 11:46am
  - greybeard
    
    She was certainly good at dividing a country.
    And multiplying our problems.
    And adding to our debt level.
    Then she took herself away.
    
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    May 23, 2024 11:58am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Two in one thread!.
      Also brilliant .
      
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      May 23, 2024 12:05pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Full marks, 100% accurate.
      
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      May 23, 2024 12:13pm
- I remember when
  
  MW:
  Sounds suspiciously like the approach to recognition of Maori achievement.
  Sport, music, Maori language, kapa haka.
  
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  May 23, 2024 9:50am
- imalwaysright
  
  MW
  Those intelligent people don’t have the smouldering Jersey calf good looks of Ashley Bloomfield , that’s why!
  
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  May 23, 2024 11:45am
Ghost

A couple of interesting things about this story

The accompanying helicopters would have known the location they lost the helicopter

The continued story that they made contact with the helicopter

Fresh Details Emerge On Iran’s President Raisi’s Helicopter Crash, Death
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May 23, 2024 9:57am
- rouppe
  
  “…that they made contact with the helicopter”
  
  I read that as they made contact with one passenger of the crashed helicopter, probably by cell phone, not radio contact with that helicopter’s pilot.
  
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  May 23, 2024 1:04pm
  - Ghost
    
    No one survived the crash to make the call. Whoops, two calls that Iran claimed were made. There was no mayday call, and according to turkey no transmission from the helicopter
    
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    May 23, 2024 1:18pm
    - kowtow
      
      Who cares , an evil bastard is gone and his henchmen with him won’t be much better.
      
      The world’s a tiny bit better off.
      
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      May 23, 2024 1:25pm
      - Ghost
        
        Who cares? Because the story isn’t adding up. President and foreign minster killed in a helicopter crash. Head of police killed in a seperate event. Intelligence Service Chief Killed yesterday. There is a very good chance his replacement will be far worse than him
        
        This was 3 helicopters flying. The presidential helicopters pilot told all to ascend, first and last helicopter did, the middle one crashed or had something else happen. Something is going on in Iran
        
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        May 23, 2024 1:44pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING ‘X’

Until I googled it… probaly like most people I’d never heard of ‘Thomas Crapper’.

We’ve got a lot to thank him for 😀

https://x.com/historyinmemes/status/1792943180754612691
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May 23, 2024 10:12am
- Paulus
  
  I am grateful to the good Doctor at least twice a day ~ born in East Yorkshire in approx 1836.
  
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  May 23, 2024 11:35am
  - imalwaysright
    
    P
    That makes you 188
    
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    May 23, 2024 11:53am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  That’s where the term came from.
  
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  May 23, 2024 1:06pm
Bridgenag

Information or Psychological Bioterrorism
A strategic weapon deployed by fifth generation warfare practitioners

“Dr. Alexander Kouzminov is a highly qualiﬁed and experienced biosecurity specialist. He has extensive track record of work in central government and private sector as a senior advisor, senior analyst, director, chief-executive. Dr Kouzminov has contributed to a number of environmental and biosecurity policy papers within New Zealand and internationally e.g. UNESCO policy forums, among others, and has several awards from New Zealand central government and international recognitions for his policy development work.”

https://open.substack.com/pub/rwmalonemd/p/information-or-psychological-bioterrorism?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
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May 23, 2024 10:19am
Grunter

A great post just now from economist Robert MacCulloch – Down to Earth Kiwi.

14 Reasons why productivity continues to decline.

“None of these issues are easy to solve, which is why I think productivity will continue to stagnate. By the way, cutting taxes and regulation is only a small part of the problem – they’re not even mentioned in the above list.”

https://www.downtoearth.kiwi/post/fourteen-reasons-why-productivity-in-nz-will-continue-to-stagnant-or-you-can-t-have-your-cake-and?
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May 23, 2024 10:39am
- Jack5
  
  I liked this in MacCulloch’s piece:
  
  The subject that the tech world is built upon, namely mathematics, is particularly weak in NZ. Our schools are suffering from a chronic shortage of maths & science teachers, especially ones who have studied these subjects at university. There are strong correlations between mathematics skills and country productivity nowadays …
  
  Labour brings in unskilled workers by the scores of thousand, when we could have been bringing in maths teachers from India or China.
  
  Best maths lecturer I had decades ago had English pronounciation so difficult to follow that he often had to write his words on the board. He was brilliant.
  
  At least a few thousand of the huge pool of unemployed graduates in India would help NZ. This taste from a paywalled article in the “Indian Express” (21 September 2023), demonstrates:
  
  Even as the overall unemployment rate reduced to 6.6 per cent in 2021-22 from 8.7 per cent in 2017-18, over 42 per cent of India’s graduates under 25 were unemployed in 2021-22, revealed the “State of Working India 2023” report by Azim Premji University’s Centre for Sustainable Employment …
  
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  May 23, 2024 11:19am
MCōs

First home grants
https://x.com/straydognz/status/1793210876616737149?s=61&t=yFkzCNMWRCaVt1p5eRxUog
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May 23, 2024 10:46am
Taieri

Trying to stay relevant…?

“By investing in better design, more inclusive policies, and clearer communication, we can optimise masks for real-world use and ensure that everyone can benefit from this valuable public health protection.”

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/otago-researchers-urge-stricter-mask-use-illnesses
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May 23, 2024 11:05am
Maggie Pie

Can’t believe the number of people calling talkback, bleating about government axing
the ‘First Home Buyers Grant’.
We’re talking about $5k FGS for an existing property!
What possible good would that be to anyone?

A bestie of mine (probably NZ’s best known dress-designer) has just put her Apartment
on the market for 10 mill. Go figure.
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May 23, 2024 11:30am
- imalwaysright
  
  “… (probably NZ’s best known dress-designer)..”
  
  Is that the Indian lady on the ANZ ad?
  
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  May 23, 2024 12:11pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Never heard of HER. No secret it’s Trelise.
    
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    May 23, 2024 12:36pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      Trelly Scooper?
      
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      May 23, 2024 1:41pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        DAME Trelly to you 😀
        
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        May 23, 2024 1:54pm
    - MCōs
      
      Best known as opposed to favourite
      That would be someone in the back streets of Bangladesh
      
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      May 23, 2024 1:48pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Think you might be showing your bias the Cossie.
        Didn’t you say your wife was from Bangladesh?
        
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        May 23, 2024 1:58pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

Potaka, the Waitangi Tribunal, the Coup, and The National Party’s Loss Of Control (part 4)
Notice, the NZ media are not reporting this. Why not?
https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/potaka-the-waitangi-tribunal-the-coup-and-the-national-partys-loss-of-control-part-4/
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May 23, 2024 11:32am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  “Toitū Te Whenua
  Manages properties in the Treaty Settlement Landbank. Properties come into the landbank when a government department decides it no longer needs them and there is the possibility that they could be used as either cultural or commercial redress in a Treaty settlement. There are more than 900 properties in the landbank, including former prisons, hospitals and schools, as well as houses.
  Manages the property on behalf of the Crown. This property is part of a portfolio of properties held for Treaty settlement.”
  
  Get that? 900 properties that the Govt will GIVE to Iwi through the Waitangi Tribunal.
  
  Te Arawhti “Maintains and manages properties until the Treaty settlement is completed. In some situations this includes renting out properties and maintaining the property.”
  
  People, we are being ripped off by the Government. Labour, Greens, Maori Party, National, Act, NZF, it does not matter. This Landbank is set up to give away land owned by all of New Zealand. This stinks of corruption!
  
  This is a list of the 900 properties to give away:
  
  https://shorturl.at/u8xEc
  
  Rural Farms. Bus Depot. Schools.
  
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  May 23, 2024 12:08pm
  - greybeard
    
    If only we had an independent, free-to-air TV channel which did nothing but bring to our attention such facts as this: a TV channel staffed by intelligent, articulate and inquisitive reporters and presenters. I would happily donate/subscribe to such an outlet.
    
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    May 23, 2024 1:00pm
Paulus

Changing the subject
Some 60 years ago today in a North London Parish Church I am told I promised to Love, Honour and Obey among other things.
And I still at least Obey, as I am told, and she still puts up with me.
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May 23, 2024 11:38am
- mandk
  
  Many congratulations on your anniversary, Paulus.
  
  I hope you and your Missus are surrounded by family and loved ones.
  
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  May 23, 2024 12:12pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Happy Diamond Anniversary.
  Yes, I had to google.
  
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  May 23, 2024 12:13pm
- imalwaysright
  
  P
  So you got married when you were 128 ? Well done mate.
  Happy anniversary.😃
  
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  May 23, 2024 12:14pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Congrats…
  
  I was about to send you a diamond, but then I realised you’re sure to have gone C-zero in your household.
  
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  May 23, 2024 12:29pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

By now Biden must know that he is going to lose unless the Biden machine cheats can get away with the corruption, yet he still wants to destroy America. What he is doing for Climate Change must cost votes. He is going to get Trumped, pun intended.
“President Joe Biden’s plans to address climate change have come under scrutiny for acting beyond the bounds of the law. His administration’s efforts to close fossil fuel-powered plants and transition to alternative energy sources have sparked concerns about the constitutionality of such actions.”

https://patriotpowerednetwork.com/lawmakers-demand-transparency-on-bidens-climate-policy-and-podestas-role/?
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May 23, 2024 12:31pm
vand

“The Teachers are really Marxist indoctrinators.”
Some are definitely are as our granddaughter in year 13 testifies ( Onslow College).
But the MOE developed curriculum allows it as different ideologies can be used as a lens to critique subject matter in English and Media Studios that I know of- guess which one mentioned in the curriculum is used exclusively .
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May 23, 2024 12:32pm
Maggie Pie

Import the third world. Become the third world.

https://x.com/kiwiwayne3/status/1793186585787457960

At least they were arrested. Now it’s up to a dudge to do their bit.
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May 23, 2024 12:56pm
- kowtow
  
  Quick learners .
  
  Once caught they must be deported.
  
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  May 23, 2024 1:22pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    And you’d have to wonder who let them in to start with?
    Honestly, what would the pair of them be adding to the country’s headline GDP?
    
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    May 23, 2024 1:36pm
- Yabster
  
  so much for the media and tards commenting the supermarket thefts are because of the cost of living – if that’s the case they would be nicking bread etc not some beers for a session…
  
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  May 23, 2024 2:19pm
  - Ghost
    
    But are they stealing to on sell. Shop owner in Auckland was selling stolen chocolate
    
    Article
    
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    May 23, 2024 2:29pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  I would love to see store security receive proper training and supplied with tasers. That would have the immediate effect of reducing theft.
  
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  May 23, 2024 5:12pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350286934/two-three-mayors-and-chairs-urge-government-reconsider-maori-ward-provisional
The writer’s use of “Aotearoa”, “motu” etc clearly indicate the purpose of this article: another tool for the left-leaning councils which it references.
I see that even councils which do not have maori wards have been caught in the trap.
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May 23, 2024 1:04pm
Bridgenag

daszak’s embarrassments of riches
more echohealth FOIA follies

“you think you’ve seen the bottom of the barrel on just how low these agencies and agents can go. you think that perhaps you’ve finally managed to despise them sufficiently.

sorry, i hate to ruin it for all y’all, but”

https://open.substack.com/pub/boriquagato/p/daszaks-embarrassments-of-riches?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
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May 23, 2024 1:08pm
rouppe

Interesting article by Tony Alexander.

https://www.oneroof.co.nz/news/tony-alexander-in-the-most-dangerous-part-of-the-cycle-time-to-call-it-quits-45557

It suggests there is going to be some pretty hard times ahead, not just for home owners, but business owners
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May 23, 2024 1:24pm
- PeeJay
  
  Thanks for the link. Pretty bloody brutal prediction there at the end. Suspect he’s probably right though.
  
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  May 23, 2024 3:52pm
- Grunter
  
  A very good article. Thx for sharing.
  
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  May 23, 2024 3:53pm
fredonas

Stuffed refusing to publish the Taxpayers’ Union full page “Wellington bureaucrat eviction notice” ad is classic triggered wokester knickers in twist gold 🙂👍
“This is your notice that the government grifter job
scheme for cultural studies, sociology and other
Mickey Mouse degrees, started in 2017, is over.
Front line, productive, public servants, willing and
able to get to work to reform our failing public
services are welcome to stay.
But for the pencil-pushing seat warmers, and Flat
White Marxists, it’s time to go and get a real job.”
As per the Taxpayers’ Union email newsletter.
Ad can be found here https://assets.nationbuilder.com/taxpayers/pages/3898/attachments/original/1716419318/NZTU_wellington_ad_2-Recovered-compressed_4.pdf?1716419318
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May 23, 2024 1:46pm
Maggie Pie

What about that pathetic so called ‘Political Editor’ on ZB.

Critical of the amount ‘Foreign Minister Winston Peters’ spent in the first quarter of the year on Overseas Travel ($160k).
Then had the effrontery to compare it with Nanaia Mahuta’s spend of 83k in the same period the previous year.

What a clueless snivelling lefty jerk 🙁
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May 23, 2024 1:52pm
- Graeme Hall
  
  Not hard-bitten, hard-drinking, hard-driving, tell-it like-it-is Journo Jason Walls? He once admitted his mother makes his lunch. I guess she still cuts off the crusts.
  
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  May 23, 2024 2:21pm
graham

And in news just in …

The entire Green Party has taken the afternoon off to recover from the distressing (for them) news that Mike Hosking remains the country’s top breakfast show host.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/radio-survey-results-newstalk-zb-the-breeze-top-national-ratings-mike-hosking-remains-king-of-breakfast/5SA5TCQXD5D5DDVEUCREJUHFUI/
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May 23, 2024 1:57pm
- PurplePen
  
  Will the RNZ results get published when they’re released next week? I haven’t seen their results for a few years.
  
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  May 23, 2024 4:13pm
thirteenstars

Who’s teaching your kids, and who’s teaching the teachers?

The Institute of Economic Research says the results of its study – which analysed the school qualifications of primary teachers who started work between 2017 and 2022 – are alarming.

It found a quarter attempted one or more NCEA level 1 maths standards, but did not get the 14 credits required for an endorsement, the benchmark required to “pass” a subject.

It said 58 percent fell short at level 1 science, while 14 percent of those studying level 1 English did not get 14 credits.

“In maths, an average of 25 percent of new teachers employed between 2017 and 2022 had failed to gain an Achieved level endorsement at Level 1. This means, on average, a quarter of all new primary school teachers who attempted could not pass at a basic level, the compulsory maths required of 15-year-olds in New Zealand,” the report said.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/517562/new-teachers-fail-to-make-the-grade-on-maths-and-science-knowledge-study

Yippee for public provision of education. We just have to believe and it’ll all be OK. Team of five million. Let’s do this! Yip, yip.

To those who are suspicious of private/community/charter schools and Student Education Accounts that put funding in the hands of parents, do you think such schools would for one second consider employing such teachers?
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May 23, 2024 2:05pm
- greybeard
  
  I will repeat my comment from above: “If only we had an independent, free-to-air TV channel which did nothing but bring to our attention such facts as this: a TV channel staffed by intelligent, articulate and inquisitive reporters and presenters. I would happily donate/subscribe to such an outlet.”
  
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  May 23, 2024 2:59pm
slightlyrighty

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350287008/gumboot-charitys-links-national-questioned-after-24m-funding-boost

Boy, this is a stretch and a half….

Anyone who knows Mike King will know he is no fan of National, being a staunch unionist who worked as a cook on the Inter-Island Ferries
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May 23, 2024 2:37pm
- fredonas
  
  So does this mean that the lack of funding by the previous Labour Government was due to insufficient donations to the Labour Party?
  
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  May 23, 2024 3:10pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Mike didn’t have the right gang connections.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/silly-decisions-mike-king-slams-pms-funding-of-gang-rehab-but-not-gumboot-friday/XPLTEW5H5E5T356NUR2N2URMOI/
    
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    May 23, 2024 7:52pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  So, did they get the bit where it was a NZ First commitment, not a National one?
  
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  May 23, 2024 3:29pm
- Ghost
  
  I watched treasure island a few years back because Mike was on it. He quit the show because he didn’t want to be on it when there were people suffering that would need his help. That’s the kind of guy he is. Couldn’t give a stuff if there is a connection between national and his organisation, every bit of that money will go to helping people that need it. Unlike the money labour had that was wasted. The media show again why they are scum and why no one trusts them
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:11pm
Maggie Pie

Greens continue to take the piss out of hard working Taxpayers!

Darlene Tana has the highest expenses of any other Green MP in the last quarter, despite not showing her head in Parliament since March 14!!
Then unbelieveably, hard on her heels is that other useless newbie, ‘The Rag n’Bone man’

Another great exposee by Cranmer….

https://x.com/CranmerWrites/status/1793462149270102338

People ask every day, why are any of them even there?
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May 23, 2024 3:40pm
- PurplePen
  
  Had a look at X and this was also posted: spend per MP last quarter
  
  Per MP
  Greens $17,383
  MAORI $16,640
  Labour $16,392
  
  National $12,595
  ACT $8,597
  NZ First $4,100
  
  This is why Greens can’t ever have the Govt chequebook, they know how to spend others’ money and have nothing to show for it except chaos.
  
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  May 23, 2024 4:17pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    YIP. It really is krazy PP.
    There would not be ONE person in the Greens, or Te Pardy Maori, who would even be employable in the real world, let alone enjoy an income in excess of 200k!
    Yet suckers like us are forced to pay them for doing SFA…. other than destroying the country with their looney devisive communist agendas.
    
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    May 23, 2024 4:49pm
rouppe

DOC are cutting more jobs…

Today we announced that following this consultation, DOC will have 124 fewer positions overall. We will disestablish 257 permanent positions and create 133. 114 of the disestablished positions are currently vacant.

257-114 is 143 ACTUAL people affected.

But having 143 fewer actual positions they’re going to create 133. So only 10 people actually affected.

Plus we don’t know the mix. Are they getting rid of managers and hiring rangers or the other way around?

But in any case what propaganda! All that noise and only 10 real jobs lost.
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May 23, 2024 4:08pm
Scooter

Babies and old people are easy targets when these low life scum want to vent their rage.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/crime/elderly-train-manager-assaulted-while-working-police-hunt-man-who-knocked-72yo-unconscious/
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May 23, 2024 5:55pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  “Was it one of them again, Yogi?”
  
  “It’s aways them BooBoo”
  
  🙁 🙁 🙁
  
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  May 23, 2024 7:03pm
  - Scooter
    
    MP, You’re smarter than the average Marama!
    
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    May 23, 2024 8:24pm
Ghost

Speaker of the House Gerry Brownlee intends to discuss a Green MP’s Parliamentary f-bomb when he next meets with a committee of MPs from all parties.

Article

James Shaw must be so happy in his new job
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May 23, 2024 7:27pm
- Mike
  
  Perhaps it’s time to revise the standing orders, again. Mr Brownlee could perhaps begin the process with a speaker’s tour to some exemplary parliaments.
  
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  May 23, 2024 7:39pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Still no word on what Gerr and Golriz were discussing over lunch yet then?
  
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  May 23, 2024 7:43pm
- cmm
  
  Maybe it is also time for parliament to stop being so bloody precious.
  
  “F-bombs” get dropped in kindy these days. Can’t MPs hack it in the real world?
  
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  May 23, 2024 9:00pm
Muttonbird

[Mod – use correct names] furiously backtracking already:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2024/05/government-uses-500-000-from-emergency-housing-fund-to-pay-for-sir-bill-english-s-k-inga-ora-review.html

These clowns have no idea what they are doing.
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May 23, 2024 8:13pm
Muttonbird

In other news, captured soldiers are terrified and are told they are beautiful:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/350287278/families-israeli-hostages-release-video-female-soldiers-being-captured-hamas

These people are IDF and as such enemies of a Palestinian state and so capture as POWs is completely legitimate.

Cry me a river…
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May 23, 2024 8:23pm
- cmm
  
  Mutton:
  
  Yes, capturing a soldier is perfectly legitimate. Whether that soldier has male or female body parts is completely inconsequential.
  
  You put on a uniform you are no longer a man or a woman, a father or a mother, a son or a daughter. You are a soldier.
  
  Israeli female soldiers have conducted themselves well, with many losing their lives. They are fine soldiers – with no qualifiers for being women.
  
  But torture, including unnecessarily harsh treatment, beating, rape etc, of any soldier, male or female, is unacceptable. Unfortunately all militaries in the past, and many in the present still practice torture.
  
  All sides in WW1, WW2, Vietnam and various recent conflicts in Africa have tortured.
  
  It will be interesting to see whether Hamas are at all honourable and treat these soldiers reasonably or whether they get raped and tortured.
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:58pm
Ghost

Bloody hell. This has to stop. Now a boy stabbed

A teenage boy has died following a fight near Dunedin’s police station this afternoon.

The 16-year-old was on the ground being attended to by ambulance staff and police shortly after 3pm on Great King Street.

He was later transported to the hospital in a serious condition and died this evening, police confirmed in a statement shortly after 8pm.

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May 23, 2024 8:45pm
- cmm
  
  More views on Tiktok!
  Bloody sickening.
  
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  May 23, 2024 8:58pm
Rich Prick

A good mate has told me to keep an eye for news on how a government ministry has totally fucked over a small local council for $65m, and that half of our councils may be without insurance as a result. Every bit of litigation against all of these councils will now be an item on each ratepayers’ rates bill. Thanks Te Whatever.
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A Sahm-type rule for NZ? I think not.
Croaking Cassandra
CHAOTIC AMERICA
No Punches Pulled (Bob Jones)
United Rugby Championship Predictions for the Semi-Finals
Stats Chat
Media Link: AVFA on post-colonial blowback.
Kiwipolitico
The Accidental Engagement
Imperator Fish
Legal Beagle: Election '23: The Special Votes
Public Address
Making this movie might have been a mistake
Liam Hehir
Why I am retiring from political blogging
Kiwi FireWalker
Angie Warren-Clark: Meet the Newbies
Dan Moskovitz

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