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Yvette

Gods zone

Tikanga law criticisms ‘antiquated

As MPs consider whether to block regulations requiring law students to learn about Māori customs and rules, groups say understanding tikanga is an important part of legal practice

The council had decided to add tikanga Māori to reflect its increasing relevance to the practice of law. While Judd had been critical of the Supreme Court’s Ellis decision, the council could ignore such decisions when deciding what courses should be compulsory for prospective lawyers.
In a supplementary submission to his original complaint, Judd took further aim at public speeches made by Supreme Court justices about decolonisation and tikanga, alleging they “clothe with legitimacy actions to take power and control away from our democratically elected parliament and our democratically constituted government and to put it somewhere else”

Having destroyed Peter Ellis’ life, on his death there was still a humane duty to clear his name and, as I remember the initial reportage, it seemed “tikanga” and specifically the characteristic of “mana”, was mentioned as a supporting argument in addition to that of common decency and justice in continuing restoration of a ruined reputation?

Is it not a further insult to Peter Ellis’ memory, that activists have seized on the “tikanga” comments to implement an agenda that is as unacceptable as quoting in the same context –

Aisha reported: A person who passed away was mentioned in an evil way in front of the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, so he said, “Do not mention your deceased unless it is good.”

– because the corollary is that unless his reputation is restored, you should not mention him.
That is not full justice either.

Common law should just be common sense
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July 10, 2024 8:01am
- pdm
  
  `Common law should just be common sense’
  
  Most people on the GD think that way Yvette.
  
  Activists do not.
  
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  July 10, 2024 10:05am
  - Mike
    
    Common law is not the same as common sense. Common law is simply the accumulation of judicial precedents, some dating to centuries ago. It is endlessly flexible as outdated precedents are discarded or modified to suit new circumstances.
    
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    July 10, 2024 3:08pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

Principles Bill Part 6.

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/why-we-must-support-the-treaty-principles-bill-part-6/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX7GYhtVKtc
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July 10, 2024 8:03am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  So the next video I expect Julian to explain the Littlewood Draft and what happened to it. I also expect Julian to expose the James Freeman rogue version of the Treaty and why the crooked Waitangi Tribunal is using it.
  Getting closer and closer to stopping the Gravy Train. This is what the Waitangi Tribunal are defending. They want to keep the continuous, everlasting payouts from the Government (Net Taxpayer.)
  
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  July 10, 2024 8:27am
Grunter

Four false narratives the MSM continue to run with (US focused). I’m sure we could add many more…..

https://search.app/YMofWhLAAeHxD7QC9

1. Covid
2. Ukraine
3. Climate Change
4. US economy

Im sure the Ukraine one will generate the usual KB debate. How can the MSM be obviously wrong about so much but 100% correct on Ukraine??
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July 10, 2024 8:05am
- imalwaysright
  
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  They are basically equivalent to rides Disneyland.
  
  Everyone goes in circles for a while and then can’t wait to get on to the newest one.
  
  And then they go in circles for another while….
  
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  July 10, 2024 10:17am
- Lance
  
  So Russia didn’t actually invade another country with deadly force????
  Such a font of truth you are.
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  July 10, 2024 4:07pm
slightlyrighty

Political Tragics like me may have watched “The West Wing”, Alan Sorkin’s fictional account of the management of the Office of the President.

A story arc of the 2nd and third season was the decision to not disclose a diagnosis of Remitting/Recurring MS of the President, and the ethics of keeping that a secret from the public, and even a secret from most of the senior staff.

The speculation that Biden may be suffering from Parkinsons is an interesting example of Life imitating Art. In fictional West Wing, the President came to the conclusion that is was unethical to withhold the information, and it was publically released.

I wonder if the current senior staff have the same level of candour. It saddens me to say this, but I don’t believe that they do.

The health of Candidates should be a matter of public record, and it seems there is far too much obfuscation taking place.
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July 10, 2024 8:14am
- alloytoo
  
  I personally think the Parkinsons is a red herring, something they can deny without technically lying.
  
  IMHO (having observed it) I think he’s suffering from Senile Dementia.
  
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  July 10, 2024 10:37am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    If you watch footage from the debates in 2020, and compare it to the debate last month, you can see an obvious and drastic decline.
    
    Extrapolate that out for 4 years, and it’s not a pretty picture.
    
    If the Democrats think that this is the best person from their party to lead it, then they are deluded
    
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    July 10, 2024 1:39pm
- JackRabbit
  
  There is no speculation that Biden may be suffering from Parkinsons, as it is obvious, and you can add in a very advanced state of Dementia as well.
  
  I doubt he can even dress himself or feed himself. If you left him on his own for a few days he would drop dead of dehydration and starvation.
  
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  July 10, 2024 11:19am
  - Cassandra
    
    Nonsense. He’s in the early stages of PD and dementia.
    
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    July 10, 2024 11:59am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Early stages? He has been early stages for a very long time, don’t try and say the debate was a one off, ffs 3 days latter he was saying he was proud to be the first black vice president, his brain is severally damaged, his excuse for poor debate was it’s my brain.
      
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      July 10, 2024 12:50pm
      - JackRabbit
        
        And a lot of other crazy stuff, like how Beau died, which way is left and right.
        
        Anyone that has had a parent with dementia would know it was final stages.
        
        saying he was proud to be the first black vice president
        
        That’s nutty shit.
        
        Unless Obama was telling him what to say through audio implants.
        
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        July 10, 2024 1:49pm
- Mummy
  
  Check this out. Sundowners syndrome.
  https://www.alz.org/help-support/caregiving/stages-behaviors/sleep-issues-sundowning
  
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  July 10, 2024 12:28pm
- kowtow
  
  ‘Staffers for President Biden provide him instructions with large print and photos of venue interiors and his planned path of entry ahead of events the 81-year-old commander-in-chief attends, according to a report.’
  
  https://nypost.com/2024/07/08/us-news/staff-provides-biden-with-instructions-on-how-to-enter-and-exit-a-room-with-large-print-and-pics-ahead-of-events-report/
  
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  July 10, 2024 2:03pm
Anthony Melchett

I like Ryan Bridge but this is one of the worst written articles I have ever seen.

Are there no editors any more?

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/early-edition-with-ryan-bridge/opinion/ryan-bridge-labour-should-steer-well-clear-of-an-inheritance-tax/
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July 10, 2024 8:14am
- wisteria
  
  I found it difficult to read this. Full of useless words that are usually assumed by the reader but do not need to be in the text. Ryan will have to grow a pair and come into the real world. I would expect the editors of old would never have let this see the light of day.
  
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  July 10, 2024 10:07am
- wsk12345
  
  It’s a transcript isn’t it?
  
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  July 10, 2024 10:12am
- Scooter
  
  Actually it’s a transcript of what he is saying, if you click on the sound part. But I agree as it is written it is pretty bad but not many commentators or journalists speak any better than they write these days. One that is great to listen to is the Leighton Smith podcast.
  
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  July 10, 2024 10:24am
- Humai
  
  My guess is that it’s an automated (voice recognition) transcript of the audio that some sub editor hasn’t bothered to proof read (do they do that anymore?).
  
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  July 10, 2024 11:05am
- kowtow
  
  Ryan Bridge in the radio days played thatclip of the English nurses doing their NHS covid haka skit .
  
  He thought it was such jolly japes and was having so much fun ……..till a wahine maori phoned in and gave himthe bollocking of his life , demanding he not and never play it again ( disrespectful or some such)
  
  Faaark he backed off like the little coward he is , faster than shit off a shovel.
  
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  July 10, 2024 11:15am
  - imalwaysright
    
    NZ is being bullied by the smallest kid in the playground.
    
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    July 10, 2024 12:29pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

G Strings, G Strings. God we are so backwards in NZ.
Go to Waikiki. There are girls/woman waking around in Gs. Nobody give a shit.
They go shopping at 3am in the morning with a credit card tucked under the bra bit.

Respect? Yeah, show some resect and don’t stare. Get your filthy mind out of the gutter you perverts.
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July 10, 2024 8:15am
- Maggie Pie
  
  I had some old creep come up to me once when I was
  sun-bathing on Palm Beach and offer to wash mine 🙁
  
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  July 10, 2024 8:20am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I see a G in the same light as a budgie smuggler.
    Oh there’s a bulge there. Be more abnormal if there was no bulge!
    
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    July 10, 2024 8:30am
    - kowtow
      
      Spend too much time gazing at the G then the budgie will bulge and that would not be polite …….
      
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      July 10, 2024 10:55am
  - Jethrod
    
    Was that Palm Beach , Waiheke?
    
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    July 10, 2024 11:31am
  - imalwaysright
    
    “..on Palm Beach and offer to wash mine.”
    
    Maybe that’s where it got the name.
    
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    July 10, 2024 12:32pm
- Pavel
  
  I gotta say that I support the g string ban at the Todd Energy Aquatic Centre in New Plymouth. I go there regularly with the kids and it is very disturbing. The stuff article relayed the story of one attractive woman who was asked to leave. I’ve never seen an attractive woman at that place and most of the women wearing g strings are 20 stone plus. If they enforced it 50% of the women would be thrown out of there. In the Naki we call them “obeasties”. I got nothing against big women but it would be nice if they ditched their g strings and covered up a bit more. I’m sick of throwing up in my mouth and having to swallow it so as not to dirty the pool.
  
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  July 10, 2024 8:29am
  - BeaB
    
    Your best course of action might be to build your own pool and then you could be spared these sights that disgust you so much. No woman , or man, should have to cover up just to please you and your repulsive views.
    We have body-shamed boys and men for years about their natural attributes. Surely it’s time to accept the human body in all its infinite variety. It’s creepy for you to be peering at women’s bodies instead of getting on with your swim.
    
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    July 10, 2024 9:47am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Perverts will be perverts, they just can’t help it.
      Degenerate sleazballs.
      
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      July 10, 2024 10:06am
    - wsk12345
      
      Wearing proper togs is hardly “covering up”.
      
      By all means wear a g string to sunbathe at the beach or by your own pool but don’t try to kid that anyone actually there to swim would choose a g string Bikini. They are not that practical, top or bottom halves.
      
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      July 10, 2024 10:06am
    - Pavel
      
      I bet the farm that if an equal number of the same aged and sized men were wearing mankinis down there you’d be singing a different tune.
      
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      July 10, 2024 12:07pm
    - Sacha
      
      Modesty.
      If you don’t like being stared at, or hearing comments, cover up.
      I don’t like having indiscrete bodies paraded in front of me – must be my old-fashioned Protestant upbringing.
      
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      July 10, 2024 12:53pm
  - sirknz
    
    Given your descriptions of the women wearing them, are you sure they are G strings and not just normal sized bikini bottoms?
    
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    July 10, 2024 10:43am
  - waikatosinger
    
    One wonders whether a normal bikini might not look like a G string on someone 20 stone plus.
    
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    July 10, 2024 11:14am
    - Jethrod
      
      You never get rid of the apparition!
      
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      July 10, 2024 11:33am
    - Anthony Melchett
      
      Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Homer is putting on speedos and and they disappear so he puts on another pair which also disappear, followed by his classic line, “I hope they’re going somewhere good”
      
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      July 10, 2024 12:30pm
- kiwikidsnz
  
  …& those demanding their immodest exposure rights will also loudly complain about being objectified
  
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  July 10, 2024 8:49am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  An aged gentleman said, when he had seen a G String bikini;
  “There is only one part of your body you should floss and that is your teeth.”
  
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  July 10, 2024 9:15am
  - BeaB
    
    Typical silly old man comment. Like the old dope who took it upon himself to advise a schoolgirl on a bus to put up with being raped, landing himself on the sex offenders register.
    Women can wear what they like, as can men. A swimsuit with high cut legs can expose almost as much as a g string. This mother needs to enjoy a swim with her boys and stop staring censoriously at others.
    The extreme of her attitude is of course the hijab and burka but that makes me more uncomfortable than a bare bum.
    
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    July 10, 2024 9:37am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The hijab and burka does worry me.
      I think ‘you came to live in NZ so enjoy NZ. Leave your luggage behind.
      Take that gear off and feel how good NZ really is.
      
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      July 10, 2024 10:12am
      - Ghost
        
        So you’d be happy to still wear a grass skirt and none of the overseas fashion that is sold here?
        
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        July 10, 2024 10:19am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Not sure what you really mean Ghost.
        Go to a muslim country and wear a grass skirt because that is what they wear in my Country?
        First I am not Maori, so why?
        
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        July 10, 2024 11:32am
    - Don Beckett
      
      I believe modesty is still a virtue. However, let those who wish to flaunt their near nakedness accept the consequent criticism.
      
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      July 10, 2024 10:20am
- Handyman
  
  Most men are very polite. When faced with a scantily clad woman on the beach, they only look at the bits that are covered up.
  
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  July 10, 2024 9:31am
  - BeaB
    
    NZers can be very Calvinist. Anyone who has lain on a beach in Europe surrounded by bare bodies or shared a changing room with naked German men and women, or with naked Chinese women, returns home amused at our prim attitudes.
    There are no furtive photos being taken, or creepy peering or embarrassed sniggers or outraged demands for rules.
    No wonder Jacinda was so easily able to have us enthusiastically dobbing in our neighbours!
    
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    July 10, 2024 10:40am
- wsk12345
  
  context?
  
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  July 10, 2024 9:33am
- Ghost
  
  It’s stupid, but we live in times where being offended is a full time occupation.
  
  When I was a kid you’d get the occasional person on the beach across from us sunbathing nude, no one cared
  
  If you don’t like g strings then don’t wear one, but stop thinking the world should change for you
  
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  July 10, 2024 9:59am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Quite a few years ago I occasionally would come across a nudist beach when out in my dinghy. No GPS so just made a mistake. It was no big deal, I just politely left.
  There are 4 or more such beaches on the Shore.
  
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  July 10, 2024 10:17am
  - sirknz
    
    “Quite a few years ago I occasionally would come across a nudist beach when out in my dinghy. No GPS so just made a mistake.”
    
    But 7 times in one day?
    
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    July 10, 2024 3:31pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Only 4. I visited the beaches I knew LOL!
      
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      July 10, 2024 6:20pm
- GregM
  
  I have no problem with it. G string is supposedly bad but some perverted man in a mini skirt and lippy lurking around little kids at the library is okay?
  If the ladies are confident enough to wear such a thing then all power to them I reckon.
  Greg Moore, Queenstown.
  
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  July 10, 2024 12:46pm
  - ISeeRed
    
    Two things can both be “bad”.
    
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    July 10, 2024 5:48pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  They are probably pissed off there is no balls hanging
  
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  July 10, 2024 12:51pm
kowtow

Te legacy media paahti have adopted a recent affectation of using the term “wahine maori” and another is aping Ockker media of a woke persuasion giving tribal affiliations ……..except at sentencing or when the Constabulary want a chat.

Innit?
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July 10, 2024 8:17am
- imalwaysright
  
  Kow
  Why do they say it back to front.
  Shouldn’t it be maori wahine?
  
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  July 10, 2024 10:01am
  - kowtow
    
    Influence of the French settler colonialists?
    
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    July 10, 2024 10:41am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Akaroa ?
      
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      July 10, 2024 12:56pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Adjectives (modifiers) usually follow the noun in te reo.
    
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    July 10, 2024 5:25pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  They even tried to suggest some Māori connection to the girl Sun that is doing well in the tennis, she is Chinese and Croatian born and breed here, but oh she might have a bit of Māori, what bullshit
  
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  July 10, 2024 12:56pm
AgainstTheFlow

Ministers are investigating using remote viewing tech for building inspections.

Great to see a government getting on and dealing with cost or time regulatory barriers in a calm and sensible way.
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July 10, 2024 8:36am
- sirknz
  
  What a time to be alive…
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing#:~:text=Remote%20viewing%20(RV)%20is%20the,purportedly%20sensing%20with%20the%20mind.
  
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  July 10, 2024 10:52am
  - Mike
    
    For a closer view, the building inspector could use astral projection.
    
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    July 10, 2024 3:17pm
- MCōs
  
  The Mackenzie District Council already uses that technique.
  The inspector sits in the office and runs through a checklist while the builder points a camera at the relevant items to be checked off.
  In their case there’s an issue when there’s no internet coverage of course
  
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  July 10, 2024 12:34pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Why not, call it the bunker hahahahaha
  
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  July 10, 2024 12:57pm
kowtow

WSJ book review .
“On Call. A doctor’s journal in public service” by A Fauci.

‘ ” We are living in an era in which information that is patently untrue gets repeated enough times that it becomes part of our everyday dialogue and starts to sound true.” He’s right about that and he has inadvertantly produced a 480 page master class in how he got away with it. ‘

And concludes

“Dr Fauci’s determination to panic the public astounded Dr Atlas but it’s understandable after reading On Call . For Fauci fearmongering was always an excellent career move”.
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July 10, 2024 8:38am
Scott

As a father myself, this article really upset me. A father set fire to his house and internationally tried to kill his wife and his children. He intentionally threw the children back into the flames and some of his children died.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/350336263/mothers-love-and-father-who-tried-kill-us

I think this is so evil that the man deserves death. He’s not fit to live. I believe in the death penalty for this act.

If people are squeamish then sure, a sedative followed by a lethal injection. He’ll suffer no pain, unlike his murdered children.
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July 10, 2024 8:40am
- imalwaysright
  
  He’s no different to that scumbag who researched murder and then murdered three little girls.
  Put them in straight jackets in a cell facing each other.
  Let them die facing evil.
  
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  July 10, 2024 10:05am
- kowtow
  
  The very carefully te media curated ,chosen white family to highlight a problem ,just like Celia Lashlie’s blond 5 year old murderer.
  
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  July 10, 2024 10:48am
greybeard

https://www.waikatotimes.co.nz/nz-news/350336916/house-demolished-sunset-beach-due-coastal-erosion/?utm_source=stuff_article&utm_medium=referral

“The foolish man built his house upon the sand
The foolish man built his house upon the sand
The foolish man built his house upon the sand
And the rain came tumbling down
Oh, the rain came down
And the floods came up
The rain came down
And the floods came up
The rain came down
And the floods came up
And the foolish man’s house went “splat!” “

Matthew 7:24-29
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July 10, 2024 8:46am
kiwikidsnz

“New Zealand has the highest auto-theft rate for any fairly large country in the world, at 1172.0 per 100,000 residents in 2018. ”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_theft#:~:text=New%20Zeala….

Canada doesn’t know how lucky they are at less than a quarter NZs rate: bollards in driveways indeed!

“How Canada became a car theft capital of the world”

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy79dq2n093o
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July 10, 2024 8:47am
- sirknz
  
  Canadian police did advise people to put their car keys at the front of the house so that criminals didn’t have to go through the entire house looking for them…
  
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  July 10, 2024 10:55am
- kowtow
  
  Talking of auto theft ,some idiot tried to steal SC justice Sotomayor’s car ,under the nose of two armed Feds .Pulled a gtun and won the silly prize.
  
  I doubt the Lefty Luvvies will be getting their panties in a twist as Soto is one of their own.
  
  It’s nice to be part of the Elites who have the Feds on hand to shoot people of colour for property protection purposes .
  
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  July 10, 2024 11:01am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Gone in sixty seconds!
    
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    July 10, 2024 12:40pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Covid Tyrants.
Sure it is in Germany but does that matter? What are they really trying to hide?
This Doctor had suspicions so did not inject the “untested” Vax.
No public trial.
Bring on Nuremberg 2.0.

https://thepatriotexpress.com/americanpatriotclub/german-doctor-sentenced-to-years-in-prison-for-writing-patients-covid-shot-exemptions/?
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July 10, 2024 8:50am
- imalwaysright
  
  S.O
  
  What a disgusting prosecution.
  The prosecutors seem to mimic The Inquisition in their blind zealotry.
  As the author says:”Not all heroes wear capes!”
  That’s right, sometimes they are just 67 year old ladies who have ethics and a conscience .
  
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  July 10, 2024 1:49pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Many years ago I studied English at school and quite enjoyed the subject. Years later I realised I had had the good fortune of a run of excellent teachers who had exposed me to a great chunk of the literary Canon of the English language.

Years later I felt sorry for my daughters who studied a much reduced field of authors and poets in their senior English classes… one of them entirely restricted to NZ writing.

So I will be interested in what the new senior English Curriculum offers up….
Perhaps a wide field of writing… or perhaps a jumble of fashionable ethno-socio “correct think”.

“Looking at Marautanga Māori as an afterthought, as something that might be worthwhile looking at, that’s unacceptable. It needs to be woven into the fabric of what subject English in New Zealand actually is.”

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/521737/leaked-emails-on-rewriting-curriculum-show-process-not-followed-teaching-association
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July 10, 2024 9:10am
- wsk12345
  
  I feel that my cohort was really let down in the English department. I was at high school in the 1980s, early years we read some reasonable books, Anne Frank and so on, but the later years we were forced to consume almost solely NZ and Maori authors (the exception being Margaret Atwood) and that put me off for good. IMO at the time, Patricia Grace, Witi Ihimaera, et al produced the most BORING, turgid load of crap (and as a result i’ve never gone back). On the side I read the American classics which I heard about through general Americana of which they are such a key part – everyone in the US grew up reading Gatsby and To Kill a Mockingbird. Not to mention the English or European classics. You would have thought, in NZ in the 80s, that Shakespeare was the only English playwright ever. We were ripped off. I hate to think how much further it has sunk by now.
  
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  July 10, 2024 9:28am
  - imalwaysright
    
    A friend works at a high school.
    Books are rare.
    They watch a movie and then write an appraisal.
    
    Very sad.
    
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    July 10, 2024 9:45am
  - Omni Consumer Products
    
    For me, Highschool in the early 90’s we had to read:
    Z for Zachariah
    The man from Snowy River
    part of A Midsummer Night’s Dream.
    boring AF and put me right off…
    
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    July 10, 2024 9:47am
    - mogg
      
      I was a country boy, books were not my thing. Then reading the set books at school very quickly got me into the local library. Now if I see a church book sale I am first in the queue, they are a goldmine.
      Escape from the hum-drum, read a book.
      
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      July 10, 2024 10:53am
    - Mod88
      
      When I was at High School in the 70s Animal Farm by George Orwell was compulsory reading and 1984 was optional. Yes we were taught Communism is bad, very very bad. That has not changed one whit except that NZ’s Parliament is now infested with them.
      
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      July 10, 2024 12:35pm
  - sirknz
    
    High school English teachers, beating the love of reading out of everyone since forever.
    
    I went from reading several books a month at the start of high school and by the end, I did not want to pick a book up ever again.
    
    5th form we were forced to read Patricia Grace, in 7th from we were forced to read a bunch of stuff that our entirely female English teachers thought was great but certainly did not resonate with any of the boys in the classes, and certainly nothing written by a man was permitted.
    
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    July 10, 2024 11:01am
    - peterwn
      
      And to think of the time when no one believed female authors could write so the authors had to use male pseudonyms. In my opinion it is criminal if senior high school students do not read ‘Wuthering Heights’.
      
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      July 10, 2024 11:46am
      - GregM
        
        Totally agree Peter. The other one I would recommend is Hemingways “the old man and the sea”.
        
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        July 10, 2024 12:59pm
  - ISeeRed
    
    The name James K. Baxter is seared, SEARED into my memories of primary school in the late 70s.
    
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    July 10, 2024 5:55pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    I see you your Patricia Grace and raise you my Kiri Hume
    
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    July 10, 2024 7:06pm
- krazykiwi
  
  “It needs to be woven into the fabric of what subject English in New Zealand actually is.”
  
  Clumsy prose. Clearly the literary horse had already bolted for the author.
  
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  July 10, 2024 9:34am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Or, perhaps , clearly for the author, the literary horse has bolted.
    
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    July 10, 2024 10:08am
    - krazykiwi
      
      if stabledoor.isflapping {
          author.literaryhorse.hasbolted()
          stabledoor.reset()
         }
      
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      July 10, 2024 11:12am
      - imalwaysright
        
        You win!!!
        
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        July 10, 2024 1:52pm
- NothingLeft
  
  Knowledge of a relatively small set of books by specific authors used to be a marker for education. A class identifier for the club of ‘educated’ people. It had it’s time, but now it’s dead.
  
  The world has moved on, university level literacy has exploded into being the norm rather than the exception and that particular club, with all the tedious critique and reference and allusion to classical history and long dead social mores no longer holds any value to kids prospects because it has stopped being a common set of cultural references.
  
  There is now far more valuable and entertaining knowledge to fill your heads with and enormously greater variety in easily accessible high quality literature with settings more relevant to modern existence. Aside from which reading books is dying out as a recreation due to social media etc.
  
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  July 10, 2024 9:37am
  - Taieri
    
    university level literacy has exploded into being the norm
    ———-
    
    University level literacy has exploded?
    You’ve got to be kidding…
    But then again, after reading the last sentence of your post, perhaps not.
    
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    July 10, 2024 11:16am
    - Quail
      
      Reading an economists thesis was a real eye opener.
      Much of the written text was numeric.The message and conclusions were basically numbers, equations and associated numeracy.
      The economist said that figures were much more precise leaving no room for misinterpretation.
      I suspect that other professions use this method for clarity and certainty.
      
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      July 10, 2024 1:08pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        Good point Quail.
        It should be a condition of academic theses that they are able to be interpreted by the common man.
        The reasoning, whether it is
        numeric or physical , chemical ,or biological should be presented in a manner that enables the reader to follow from hypothesis to conclusion.
        Otherwise, the work becomes a file in a university archive instead of a revelatory document for the benefit of everyone .
        
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        July 10, 2024 2:03pm
    - NothingLeft
      
      Language and culture and critical knowledge bases change over time. We would be regarded as knuckle-dragging idiots by C19th academics for not being able to quote 100’s of lines of biblical verse, or having the ability to converse in French and Latin.
      
      But the fact is that almost half the population is now getting tertiary education, and are attaining much higher levels of literacy as a result of 5-6 more years in education. 50 years ago only a few percent got that amount of time in education, and while a lot more people read recreationally, much of it was pulp fiction shite, mills and boon etc.
      
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      July 10, 2024 2:03pm
      - Taieri
        
        We would be regarded as knuckle-dragging idiots by C19th academics for not being able to quote 100’s of lines of biblical verse, or having the ability to converse in French and Latin.
        ————–
        
        “In 100 years, we have gone from teaching Latin and Greek in high school to teaching remedial English in college.”
        ― Joseph Sobran – American journalist
        
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        July 10, 2024 4:06pm
    - ISeeRed
      
      Yes. Exploded. Into tiny little useless pieces.
      
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      July 10, 2024 5:56pm
- Ehlana
  
  Surely “subject English” is about acquiring the skills to use the language (understand, speak, read & write using English vocabulary) and about studying the best of English literary arts? It is not primarily about Maori at all.
  
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  July 10, 2024 2:47pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Indeed.
    
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    July 10, 2024 5:27pm
krazykiwi

France is going to be a basket case. From the Telegraph

Compared to the U.K.’s election, France’s was certainly a shock. With the final votes tallied, Le Pen’s NR and its allies won only 143 seats in the new Parliament, President Macron’s Ensemble secured 168, and the New Popular Front won 182. Although the NR won 37% of the votes, far more than any other party, tactical voting in a two-round system meant it was locked out of power. Here’s the problem, however. Blocking Le Pen also meant handing a huge increase in power to a New Popular Front dominated by Jean-Luc Melenchon’s France Unbowed. And ironically, it is even more extreme than the NR.

In reality, the Popular Front’s manifesto makes Jeremy Corbyn look like a moderate. It promised 150 billion euros in extra public spending, increasing public sector salaries by 10% immediately, making transport free and lowering the retirement age back to 62, with longer term plans to hire more teachers and healthcare workers and invest more in green energy. It would pay for all of that with higher corporate taxes, with a wealth tax and by borrowing more money.

The NR had plenty of plans for spending more money too, and had nothing to say on liberalising the economy or restoring its competitiveness, but the Popular Front is far more radical. Indeed, an analysis by Bloomberg showed debt as a percentage of GDP rising to almost 130% by 2027 under the Popular Front, compared with 120% for the NR, and 110% under Macron’s outgoing Government.
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July 10, 2024 9:18am
- MCōs
  
  For comparison NZ’s debt as percentage of gdp is less than 50%
  https://internal.statista.com/statistics/436529/national-debt-of-new-zealand-in-relation-to-gross-domestic-product-gdp/
  America is around 120%
  This site lists a number of other countries
  https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/united-states/government-debt–of-nominal-gdp
  I’m not sure of the significance of that number given the number of people who contend we’re in a bad way
  
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  July 10, 2024 9:31am
  - wsk12345
    
    One natural disaster can shift that number for us significantly. The CHCH earthquakes, didn’t they increase debt % by double figures?
    
    And in addition to being on the seam of two tectonic plates for EQs and volcanic activity, as a country living in the middle of the ocean, not part of a large continent, nothing is more certain than extreme weather. So we need a significant buffer that other countries do not.
    
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    July 10, 2024 9:37am
    - cmm
      
      “The CHCH earthquakes, didn’t they increase debt % by double figures?”
      
      The Chch EQ actually helped NZ survive the GFC a bit better.
      
      Most of the insurance costs to cover the EQ were underwritten from overseas so all that damage resulted in a huge building/tradie boom that was powered by money flowing in from overseas.
      
      This gave JK a bit of a boost for the “rockstar economy”.
      
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      July 10, 2024 11:04am
      - Quail
        
        Yes civil disasters often increase GDP.
        Exxon Valdez sinking a classic example
        
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        July 10, 2024 11:39am
  - krazykiwi
    
    It is possible to be ‘in a bad way’ while some dimensions are not as poor as those of others.
    
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    July 10, 2024 9:37am
    - MCōs
      
      Stop beating round the bush
      What is the significance of that number?
      
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      July 10, 2024 10:44am
      - krazykiwi
        
        Who’s “beating around the bush”?!? Seesh.
        
        So, the higher the public debt to GDP ratio the greater the proportion of national productivity is spent servicing debt, and this limits (or should limit) spending on public services e.g. hospitals, police, trans-activists taking story time at the local library.
        
        Of course in practice, socialists drunk on OPM simply fire up the money printers which leads to inflation that hammers their supposed constituents and/or they take on still more debt to pay for all manner of profligate spending.
        
        All of which leads to a worsened debt to GDP ratio. Rinse and repeat.
        
        Need more? Try spending on your credit card and not paying it off. Do this for a few months and see what happens.
        
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        July 10, 2024 11:03am
      - MCōs
        
        Apart from anything else it’s a fundamental mistake to compare your domestic finances to government spending.
        Politicians love to suggest government borrowing is the same as people taking out a mortgage and has to be repaid. In reality individuals usually aspire to be debt free, but countries don’t
        
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        July 10, 2024 7:27pm
  - Grunter
    
    Only one country has gone higher than 120% and not defaulted – that is Japan.
    
    IMO Japan is now in deep siht with their currency. It has taken a while but ultimately all house of cards and Ponzi scheme collapse.
    
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    July 10, 2024 10:41am
    - Master Mariner
      
      Japan borrows frim within.
      Ie savings.
      Thats the difderence and why its an outlier.
      
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      July 10, 2024 1:27pm
    - NothingLeft
      
      Japanese are actually relatively poor now. Median household income only NZD $52k. It’s $130k in NZ.
      
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      July 10, 2024 2:09pm
      - Taieri
        
        Yeah, right, but how does the purchasing power parity compares between Japan and NZ? According to the Fountain of Truth it’s almost the same for both countries:
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)
        
        In the meantime:
        
        In the year ended June 2023, average annual household equivalised disposable income in NZ was:
        
        $56,919 before housing costs
        
        https://stats.govt.nz/information-releases/household-income-and-housing-cost-statistics-year-ended-june-2023/
        
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        July 10, 2024 4:15pm
      - NothingLeft
        
        “average gross annual household income increased from $117,408 to $126,411 (up 7.7 percent)”
        
        https://www.stats.govt.nz/information-releases/household-income-and-housing-cost-statistics-year-ended-june-2023/
        
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        July 10, 2024 7:33pm
  - Drone
    
    The problem MCos is that whilst the debt number is significantly lower for New Zealand the American population believe they can achieve and the majority seem to be able to continue to be positive despite the bizarre political situation. In New Zealand we don’t have the same vibrancy, successive governments have largely killed off initiatives and destroyed the education system leaving a large percentage of the population whose only hope for a future is to leave ASAP.
    
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    July 10, 2024 12:02pm
    - waikatosinger
      
      The president of the US apparently can’t tell a billion from a trillion. Good way to end up in serious debt.
      
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      July 10, 2024 1:53pm
- mogg
  
  The French NPF who are now the largest group in parliament want to introduce a 90% wealth tax, bearing in mind they have Switzerland right next door. The cobblestones will be flying.
  
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  July 10, 2024 10:34am
  - krazykiwi
    
    We should offer ‘Tax Persecution Asylum’ to slowly boiling frogs.
    
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    July 10, 2024 11:26am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Gerard Depardieu – hmmm
      
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      July 10, 2024 7:16pm
imalwaysright

I see Luxon has a meeting with Trudeau .
Will this be when Luxon tears off the rubber mask and reveals he is actually Jacinda ?!!!
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July 10, 2024 9:20am
- Mod88
  
  He should make time for a meeting with Polivierre.
  
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  July 10, 2024 12:36pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Pathetic
  
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  July 10, 2024 1:00pm
- Ghost
  
  So Luxon shouldn’t meet with our allies and trading partners
  
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  July 10, 2024 2:40pm
  - sirknz
    
    Correct, Luxton should not be meeting anybody currently.
    
    Luxon, on the other hand, should be.
    
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    July 10, 2024 4:07pm
lastmanstanding

Trump supporters should be afraid very afraid if Biden pulls out of the race. We know the average US voter is as dumb as a sackful of hammers. Many will vote for Harris purely on the basis she is a woman of colour and will be the first to occupy the White House. Like Biden she will be a glove puppet to Obama giving him his 4th term.
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July 10, 2024 9:21am
- MCōs
  
  I’ve been to America a few times, admittedly not since 2003. My impression was they’re no less intelligent to anywhere else I’ve been.
  When you say ‘dumb as a sackful of hammers’ does that actually mean doesn’t align to your way of thinking?
  
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  July 10, 2024 9:56am
- kowtow
  
  ‘We know the average US voter is as dumb as a sackful of hammers.’
  
  Who is this “we” kimosabe .
  
  Always remember “we” gave Ardern that covid majoridy.
  
  Who’s dumb ?
  
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  July 10, 2024 11:05am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Liberal media give the suggestion that most are dumb
    
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    July 10, 2024 1:04pm
- cmm
  
  Worst case is Joe dying peacefully in his sleep a few weeks before the election (with or without assistance). The associated grief/guilt/whatever would be easy for Democrats to exploit.
  
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  July 10, 2024 11:07am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Check for Hillary having popped around with chocolates and best wishes just prior to any such outcome.
    
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    July 10, 2024 11:38am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Even worse a few weeks after winning, what a nightmare
    
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    July 10, 2024 1:05pm
- Inandout
  
  Last, Nurse Jill will be watching Joe like a hawk just in case his choc milk is laced with arsenic. There is practically no way he can be dumped while still breathing and moving. It has been mentioned many times that 81 million voted for Joe and most of those now have buyers’ remorse.
  
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  July 10, 2024 12:00pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Her polls are worse than Biden, they had polls against Trump with 5 possibilities, all trailed trump by a reasonable margin, many people know how useless she is and will not want more failure
  
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  July 10, 2024 1:02pm
NothingLeft

A (pissed off Democrat) Parkinson’s doctor dismembers pretense that Biden doesn’t have severe neurodegenerative disease, says at this stage it’s very easy to diagnose from way he presents and that any med student who didn’t see it from the symptoms would fail:

https://x.com/i/status/1810662295753650471
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July 10, 2024 9:24am
- David Garrett
  
  Nothing: The best line in that clip: ” I could have diagnosed this from across the mall”
  
  I noticed that Biden’s press sec hasn’t denied the frequent visits of a neurologist to the White House – but classically hides behind “privacy issues” to avoid saying who that doctor is actually seeing – and presumably treating.
  
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  July 10, 2024 10:16am
  - cmm
    
    Privacy for the doctor, of course.
    
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    July 10, 2024 11:08am
  - NothingLeft
    
    Previous white house doctor has said that visitor logs make it clear it was to the area where only the first family are treated – so clearly Biden.
    
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    July 10, 2024 2:27pm
- Inandout
  
  NL, to quote the psychiatrist in that Fawlty Towers episode, ‘There’s enough material there
  for an entire conference’.
  
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  July 10, 2024 12:14pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  That doctor that Fox has on suggested his demeanour could be caused by a number of things, one is arterial dementia I thought he said, that makes sense to me, narrowing of bloody to his brain, my mother had a stroke and she often has no idea what’s happening, and sounds very similar to what Biden waffles
  
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  July 10, 2024 1:08pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  Thanks.
  
  In a world of word salad, it is so refreshing to listen to someone who is clearly knowledgeable, lucid, honest, and with a good command of the English language.
  
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  July 10, 2024 2:25pm
- NothingLeft
  
  Some years ago Billy Connolly said in an interview that he had been diagnosed with Parkinsons as a result of wandering across a hotel lobby in front of a random doctor who had given him a heads-up that he likely had it from his gait. Connolley and his family hadn’t known, but a random doctor could see it sticking out like dog’s balls at a very early stage.
  
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  July 10, 2024 7:39pm
Maggie Pie

“F**k Off! Print That!”

– John Tamihere’s sole response to the NZ Herald.

‘The ultimate sanction available to the Charities Services Board is deregistration, which would see Waipareira lose it’s tax-free status and trigger a one-off tax levied on net assets. According to the Trusts most recent annual reports, this potential tax bill could exceed $20 million’

https://x.com/Haimonaetc/status/1810484619923579364

(O.M.G. check out the comments. PURE GOLD 😀 )
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July 10, 2024 9:37am
- imalwaysright
  
  The government should have already declared Tamihere unfit to run the charity and appropriated all the money (apparently $70,000,000 in the bank!) and launched an audit.
  
  Strange that all involved in this conspiracy are still at work every day. Shouldn’t they all have been instantly suspended?
  Including LeQuesne.
  
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  July 10, 2024 9:50am
- Omni Consumer Products
  
  (O.M.G. check out the comments. PURE GOLD 😀 )
  
  Can’t… don’t have an account.
  
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  July 10, 2024 9:57am
  - sirknz
    
    It is free to create one.
    
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    July 10, 2024 11:37am
  - david
    
    Me neither. Obviously a gold mine that we cannot (will not) access which is the price we pay for retaining our sanity (IMVHO obviously)
    
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    July 10, 2024 11:49am
- kowtow
  
  That Herald story was buried in the business section , $20 mil and yet Apache Sue Wiles’s 20k was the front page .
  
  Deflection .
  
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  July 10, 2024 11:09am
  - imalwaysright
    
    And don’t forget Handy Hendy.
    Last time I checked he was up to about $5 or $6 million for running his Win95 spreadsheet for the adern PR team.
    
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    July 10, 2024 11:57am
graham

I have to wonder, these days why would any man support the Greens?

When you think of the Green Party, I reckon for most average New Zealanders the names that spring to mind would most likely be:
– Marama Davidson
– Chloe Swarbrick
– Julie Anne Genter
– Tamatha Paul
– and of course the now-disgraced Golriz Gharaman, Elizabeth Kerekere, and Darleen Tana
– Ricardo Menendez March

You might add Celia Wade-Brown and Scott Abel to that list, possibly.

So as an average New Zealand man, thinking of the Green Party and who’s out there looking after your interests and concerns … Ricardo Menendez March is your main representative. Not exactly someone to be pinning your hopes on, I would have thought …
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July 10, 2024 9:51am
- MCōs
  
  By the same token why would any woman support the Nats back in day when Muldoon was PM, Minister of Finance and Leader of the House & at one stage Marilyn Waring was the only female in the government?
  Apart from that the Greens along with Act, TPM, NZF are all minority parties supported at the ballot box by only a small percentage of the voters
  
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  July 10, 2024 10:12am
  - graham
    
    Muldoon was PM forty years ago.
    
    Times have changed.
    
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    July 10, 2024 10:34am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    I think you missed the point.
    The Nats back in the day may have been all men but they weren’t single issue activists – they were technically there for everyone.
    
    That Greens list is almost entirely focused on non-straight-white-male minority rights. We don’t exist to them except as a tax source.
    
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    July 10, 2024 10:38am
    - kowtow
      
      ……and scape goat.
      
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      July 10, 2024 1:36pm
  - JimBobJoe
    
    By the same token, why did anyone vote for Kirks Labour Party? His ministry had ONE woman in cabinet (Whetu Tirikatene-Sullivan).
    
    40 years ago things were very different – ask Mr Moyle
    
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    July 10, 2024 3:24pm
Matt Long

This poor lady who helped the nation through covid needs our help.
“Foxy, yes that Foxy
@FoxyLustyGrover
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Jul 9
Fighting her employer in court Dr Siouxsie Wiles incurred a large legal bill that won’t be covered by the 20K so
@JtheNinjaKitty
& I will be fundraising. If you’ve been helped by Dr SW in Covid please help out!
#FoxyGodmother
Acc Name: Fairy Godmothers
Acc No: 38-9010-0”
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July 10, 2024 10:06am
- NothingLeft
  
  Tragic, she may need to cut back on hair care products, food and self promotion expenses. The nation will clearly mourn her vibrant contributions to the wonderful culture of propagandising censorious repression she participated in.
  
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  July 10, 2024 11:09am
mogg

We are so progressive, open minded, kind, tolerant,
that we will not defend what is ours. This is what we have become:

https://x.com/gadsaad/status/1810147980743245856?s=46
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July 10, 2024 10:13am
- Don Beckett
  
  Yes, this is rife in NZ. Imagine – a dairy owner fighting to protect his livelihood, and possibly his life, who accidently kills an intruder in self defense, attempting to rob his store. He is the one who would be arrested,
  We are indeed a bunch of sick puppies.
  
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  July 10, 2024 11:25am
Maggie Pie

‘Luxon kicks off meeting in Washington DC
promising another $16 million to Ukraine’

– $tuffed

OMG… how many other Police Stations will loose their Water Coolers?
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July 10, 2024 10:32am
- mogg
  
  In the words of Trump, ‘Europe is wealthy enough to defend its own’.
  Germany is still importing Russian oil and gas, it is being sold as a generic product by third countries including China, and they know it.
  
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  July 10, 2024 11:02am
- peterwn
  
  Bottled water sales soar at Thorndon New World (National Police Headquarters is next door).
  
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  July 10, 2024 11:55am
  - Jack5
    
    Remember the days when cops drank beer, especially beer confiscated from us kids?
    
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    July 10, 2024 12:30pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  That comes out of Peter’s foreign ministry budget, it’s him that pushes this buying foreign regimes, Luxon was blamed by the usual suspects for hand outs in the islands a few weeks ago, but it’s Peter’s who forced the doubling of foreign aid on us.
  
  Que the weak woke down voters
  
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  July 10, 2024 1:13pm
O C Smith

Today 57 years of the NZ$.
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July 10, 2024 10:57am
- imalwaysright
  
  Its not worth much of what it was.
  
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  July 10, 2024 4:55pm
NothingLeft

US Supreme Court Justice Satomayer in a judgement relating to US 2nd amendment:

“In sum, the Framers did not write the Second Amendment in order to protect a private right of armed self defense.” — Sotomayor, with the dissent in McDonald

Her bodyguard just shot dead a would be car-jacker.
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July 10, 2024 11:02am
- JimBobJoe
  
  Funny how a liberal member of the Elite, doesn’t need to worry about Home invasion or Carjacking because, of course, they are surrounded by legally armed bodyguards.
  
  The hypocrisy of elites is reaching new heights…..
  
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  July 10, 2024 3:10pm
  - peterwn
    
    Anyone in USA can have a legally armed bodyguard. In NZ the Police Diplomatic Protection Squad or other Police units will provide protection services to judges and jurors as needed.
    
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    July 10, 2024 4:49pm
- Keith White
  
  “It’s different when they’re protecting precious meeeeee!!!”
  
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  July 10, 2024 3:54pm
- Mike
  
  The 2nd amendment is about needing a militia for national defence, not about the right to personal self-defence against a criminal.
  
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  July 10, 2024 4:27pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    “You should only pull out your gun to overthrow a tyrannical govt, not for self defense” is a ludicrous position from the perspective of the writers of the constitution. Sotomayer was clearly being wilfully (and tribally) obtuse in trying to re-interpret it.
    
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    July 10, 2024 7:47pm
  - GJM
    
    Various court rulings disagree with you. “Shall not be infringed ” is pretty clear. And it is an individual right.
    Why would the 2nd amendment be different from the first amendment in the respect of being an individual right? Or does free speech only apply to government spinweasels?
    
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    July 10, 2024 7:49pm
Jack5

A trans-gender problem …

Detecting prostate cancer in some “transgender women” is bring made difficult by the hormones used in gender transition.

Apparently the prostate gland is retained in transition surgery.

Detection of cancer in the gland by PSA tests can then be skewed down by hormones being taken.

Many, many of Kiwiblog’s followers are guys in the prostate-cancer age danger zone, and will be familiar with PSA tests.

https://ascopost.com/news/july-2024/psa-may-insufficiently-detect-early-prostate-cancer-in-transgender-women/
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July 10, 2024 11:03am
- wsk12345
  
  Awesome so nek minut, we will be told we are medically discriminating against these people because their lifestyle makes it harder to diagnose cancer.
  
  What a surprise.
  
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  July 10, 2024 1:17pm
- peterwn
  
  They will also be familiar with the DRE (finger up the bum) test.
  
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  July 10, 2024 1:30pm
- JimBobJoe
  
  My sympathy response must have stayed asleep after I awoke this morning.
  
  The best response to this article is: Play silly games, win silly prizes.
  
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  July 10, 2024 3:09pm
- Inandout
  
  Jack, life has enough dangers without inviting trouble.
  
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  July 10, 2024 5:43pm
Maggie Pie

Coming to a Station near you….

“In London, even the Trains are ghey”

https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1810753704200478872
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July 10, 2024 11:29am
Chris Nisbet

We are not going to meet our Paris obligations. The only way it could possibly happen is for our government to basically ruin all our lives and impoverish us all. We’re probably clever enough to vote out any government that starts trying to do this. That might be what Powers meant when he said that degrowth will be a hard sell.
So then, why do our governments come up with nonsense like these 5 pillars that Simon Watts introduces to us all? Are they just trying to buy time while they wait for the house of cards to start falling down?
Ooh, hands up who thinks adding large amounts of wind and solar to our creaking electricity grid, and forcing industry and transportation to impose huge extra demand on it, will _decrease_ our power bills?
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July 10, 2024 11:39am
- krazykiwi
  
  Anyone who still buys into the Climate Change™ scam is either weapons grade stupid, or has their snout in the eco-trough. Simon, a low-Wattage thinker is possibly a bit of both.
  
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  July 10, 2024 1:12pm
- cmm
  
  “We are not going to meet our Paris obligations”
  
  I really don’t feel that obliged when I didn’t sign up for any such obligations. Instead, some wanker politicians did this, and continue to do so, to look awesome to their mates.
  
  A real leader would be prepared to ask some of the really hard questions, but that might get them unfriended by their friends who fly in private jets around the world to tell us we’re sinners for driving a car to work.
  
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  July 10, 2024 2:38pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    Time to tell “paris” that we’ve changed our minds and to get some other mugs to give them money.
    We trade with China, US and Aussie . They like the gear we sell them. End of….
    
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    July 10, 2024 5:01pm
- Taieri
  
  The Fourth Pillar say it all
  
  • world-leading climate innovation boosts the economy
  
  Where did I hear all this “world-leading” stuff before?
  
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  July 10, 2024 4:20pm
Maggie Pie

So what’s Labour list MP Willie Jackson up to here?

Cranmer writes…..

https://x.com/CranmerWrites/status/1810787250088857823

Asking for a friend 😎
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July 10, 2024 12:05pm
- JimBobJoe
  
  His nose is firmly positioned in a trough and he is supping as deeply as he can, before things tighten up over the next 5 years is my unkind assessment.
  
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  July 10, 2024 3:07pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    People are tweeting patched gang members wouldn’t hold a candle to these boys 😀
    
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    July 10, 2024 3:41pm
Jack5

A blow to development of Marsden Point, one of NZ’s best deep-water ports.

The port wanted to reclaim 11.7 hectares of land for container handling and a 250m wharf extension, but the Northland Regional and Whangarei District Councils have rejected the proposal.

The Northern Advocate report says local hapū Patuharakeke, which is strongly opposed to the eastern wing expansion, says some cultural issues are “still outstanding”.

It seems the port company is also seeking permission under the Government’s fast-track consenting regime. Will the council’s blocking of the main application affect this?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/northport-expansion-declined-due-to-impact-on-tangata-whenua-coastal-access/JC3TMZM6GZAAHASZRDGRX2RHJE/
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July 10, 2024 12:26pm
- Inandout
  
  Jack, ‘cultural issues’ is generally koha. This roadblock stuff will test Shane Jone’s cultural patience.
  
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  July 10, 2024 2:05pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Brownmail
  
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  July 10, 2024 2:44pm
- gorse
  
  They mean they haven’t been paid yet.
  
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  July 10, 2024 4:51pm
Jack5

Decriminalising drug use in Vancouver has been a disaster.

In April, David Eby, British Columbia’s Premier, announced that halfway into the three-year trial, the province would recriminalise drug use in public spaces.

With a severe backlash from police, politicians, and the public showing no sign of abating, Eby is now under pressure to scrap the pilot scheme altogether.

This links to a stark and near-frightening portrayal of drug hell in Vancouver, which used to be one of loveliest cities in the world. I think it’s outside the Telegraph paywall. It’s well worth a try:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/climate-and-people/vancouver-opioid-crisis-drug-addiction-british-columbia-canada/
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July 10, 2024 1:43pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  I have seen a part of a doco done by an English journo about this and it is very, very dire.
  
  He literally needed a body guard whilst filming and was threatened with violence and with many various stabbing weapons and needles as he filmed…….
  
  Yay lets decriminalise drugs….well go to Canada for the real-life experience experiment gone horribly wrong…..
  
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  July 10, 2024 2:00pm
  - mandk
    
    Another of the 17,389 reasons why Canadians have had a gutsful of Trudeau.
    
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    July 10, 2024 3:22pm
Jack5

McDonald’s staff and customers fail to rescue woman in 7-minute knife attack.

You would think a group, with chairs, bottles, keys, anything, could tackle a man slashing and stabbing a woman.

Not the time for counselling the madman, nor just asking him to stop. Nor worrying that you might bust his skull.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350337812/man-repeatedly-slashed-ex-wifes-throat-auckland-mcdonalds-after-divorce-dispute
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July 10, 2024 4:04pm
- [email protected]
  
  Easy to say because I’m not actually in that situation but I hope I would grab a chair and beat him continuously until he no longer posed a threat to the poor woman and myself. I would also scream to others to do you same.
  
  It’s wonderful to know that the police were able to get there in seven minutes.
  
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  July 10, 2024 7:18pm
  - Ghost
    
    Honestly, I wouldn’t try to intervene. I have no desire to be stabbed or killed
    
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    July 10, 2024 7:44pm
    - [email protected]
      
      I understand.
      
      But if a 40+ year old women can defend herself for 7 minutes and 45 seconds against a knife wielding assailant and survive you have to believe that the assailant was not very competent and your chances of survival would be very good.
      
      I would have a hard time watching this and not doing something to try to stop him. With both her and you going at this man I would think that your chances of success would be very good. Other people might also be emboldened to assist when they see they are not alone.
      
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      July 10, 2024 8:40pm
    - ISeeRed
      
      Especially with a name like “Mitesh Kumar”. Any white person intervening in a non-white altercation would be labelled a racist by the usual suspects in the media.
      
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      July 10, 2024 9:05pm
- NoFax
  
  Why get involved? We don’t have the means to stop such people – it’s up to the police as they have told us over and over again.
  
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  July 10, 2024 7:41pm
- NothingLeft
  
  knives are extremely dangerous. Even an experienced martial artist can not be sure that they will be able to avoid death against an attacker with a knife. One well placed or lucky blow is death.
  
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  July 10, 2024 7:52pm
- GJM
  
  I would be to worried about being arrested for committing self defence. It’s defacto illegal in NZ, and anyone trying it will discover the inside of a jail cell. Lawfare at it’s finest.
  
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  July 10, 2024 7:55pm
Keith White

But… the NZ Greens are all variously dope-addicted. Shirley they cannot be wrong in this approach to life and legislation?? ?
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July 10, 2024 4:20pm
- Keith White
  
  Oh Darleen and Chloe – have you not got anything better to do than downtick? Some reflection on
  
  [Mod – unnecessary]
  
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  July 10, 2024 6:18pm
  - Keith White
    
    Hi Mod. I am not trying to argue or disagree with you. But I hope I am permitted to point out that both these ‘ladies’ are acting out their delusions on the taxpayers’ – that’s your and mine – dime.
    
    [Mod – much better worded that way]
    
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    July 10, 2024 7:30pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Hillary Clinton had one sick message for Hollywood that no one saw coming.
She wants kids targeted by what comes out of Hollywood. Not the actors, they will do anything for a million or five. Nope, she wants the writers and producers to target kids with the climate change propaganda – The Green New Deal!
One of the nastiest women on the planet imo.
Well that’s the way it works in NZ – target the pre-schoolers first and then it goes all the way to Marxist Universities!.

https://unmuzzlednews.com/hillary-clinton-had-one-sick-message-for-hollywood-that-no-one-saw-coming/?
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July 10, 2024 4:56pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/the-woman-who-could-be-president-if-biden-steps-down/ss-BB1pGRfI?

This is the third time I have tried to post my free speech opinion; and it keeps getting deleted as I type.

I will try later, I have all of the links that I want to post.
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July 10, 2024 5:51pm
- Ghost
  
  Have you ever run a virus/malware scan?
  
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  July 10, 2024 6:10pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Ghost, it is here. Malwarebytes Premium.
    So is Norton for life.
    I do not do renewals each year.
    
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    July 10, 2024 6:23pm
    - Ghost
      
      Whatever is happening to you will be local to your computer.
      
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      July 10, 2024 6:31pm
- Mike
  
  You have no right to ‘free speech’ on a blog. But it is more likely user error than malevolent moderation.
  
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  July 10, 2024 6:10pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yes dad, yes sonny.
    
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    July 10, 2024 6:24pm
    - kevn
      
      SteveO… Might be time for a computer upgrade/refresh. Crank it up with reliability. Put a 1tb solid state hard drive in.
      Do it before the old HD fries itself and you lose everything.
      
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      July 10, 2024 6:48pm
  - Keith White
    
    Gosh, Mike, really? We had no idea!
    
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    July 10, 2024 7:46pm
- greybeard
  
  Probably because you have exceeded DPF’s limit of 2 million posts per person per year.
  
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  July 10, 2024 6:23pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    But it’s only July!
    
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    July 10, 2024 7:26pm
Damocles11

Extraordinary language used by Simon Dallow as regards hospitals in Northland on OneEwes tonight. ‘Nurses fear someone will die under this government’. The contemptuous phrase “under this government” was used. Astonishing. Union delegates were on camera attacking the government, including ‘nurse’ Rachel Thorn…not really a rank and file nurse, more of a union activist.

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‘Rachel Thorn, RN, Te Tai Tokerau, Whangārei
I’m a senior nurse from Whangarei, Te Tai Tokerau – an ED RN, clinical nurse coordinator, assistant clinical nurse manger, union delegate and co-convenor for the Northland region. I will work my hardest to get the best outcome for you all, whether RN, EN or HCA. I was a member of the previous bargaining team and am looking forward to bringing the invaluable experience and incredible, generous learning I gained from the team members. Ehara taku toa i te toa takitahi, engari he toa takitini.’
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July 10, 2024 6:31pm
- Ghost
  
  I do agree, the shortages do put stress on the system and risk people’s lives. But, this is not a new problem, this is a problem the government inherited. I remember a few years ago talking to a district health nurse and finding out how over worked, underpaid and short of staff they were.
  
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  July 10, 2024 6:57pm
  - Keith White
    
    I hope I am not inappropriately hijacking your thread Ghost, but – I know of 14 other physicians ( I am not counting the nurses who are also in my circle of friends and acquaintances) who cannot not work again for the New Zealand healthcare system because of our stance on the Jab of Death and Damage – so we cannot get a practising certificate.
    
    As long as Reti & Co do not address this, they can’t be serious about wanting to staff our hospitals to appropriately meet demand.
    
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    July 10, 2024 7:49pm
    - Ghost
      
      I know a Dr who was fired from her job for not getting the jab. She was getting rung up and asked to come back, her reply was f off. An apology would go a long way
      
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      July 10, 2024 7:57pm
      - Keith White
        
        I haven’t been asked to come back, and given my (unsuccessful) legal activity against the NZMC and the MOH, I much doubt I ever will be; but my prepared response is already “FYATHYRITO.”
        
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        July 10, 2024 7:59pm
    - ISeeRed
      
      It’s retarded. Corona has mutated and weakened into pretty average flu variants now. Is the health system also refusing candidates who haven’t had their regular flu jabs? Surely under this new government, common sense will prevail? No?
      
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      July 10, 2024 9:10pm
      - Ghost
        
        The mandates are all gone, including in health. Although I thought I read some hospitals etc were still trying to require it after they were removed
        
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        July 10, 2024 9:43pm
Maggie Pie

Megan Woods and Chloe Swarbrick,…..
“SLAM the governments Climate Change Strategy released today”

Well what else would you expect from a pair of hopeless leftards like that
who would rather see the country bankrupt?

SHEEEEEESH!!
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July 10, 2024 6:37pm
- Ghost
  
  We do need to do more to protect the planet. My proposal is we ban political gasbags.
  
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  July 10, 2024 6:49pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  I haven’t read it yet. Have they abandoned net zero? If not they are no different to the hopeless leftards.
  
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  July 10, 2024 7:43pm
kevn

A big listen/watch but most interesting.
Rogan interviewing RFK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6LJXPOv4SM
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July 10, 2024 6:47pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350338094/no-oval-office-luxon-pm-optimistic-meeting-biden
Why worry ?
Luxon would probably get more sensible information from Biden’s carpark attendants.
Oh, wait…Biden won’t be allowed anywhere near a car.
Start again: Luxon will probably get more sensible information from Biden’s on-call ambulance attendants.
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July 10, 2024 7:22pm
- Ghost
  
  Perhaps he should travel with Dr Megan Woods. Could then get a meeting with Biden as they mistake her tittle. Oh well only a few more sleeps until we get president Kamala, someone as braindead as Biden but without a medical excuse. I don’t know whose worse to watch talking, her or Biden.
  
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  July 10, 2024 7:49pm
  - Keith White
    
    As a mildly interested observer, I think I would suffer more hearing Kamala. Advanced Parkinson’s v Terminal Vapidity.
    
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    July 10, 2024 7:57pm
Ghost

This was obvious when Heather got it.

Ex-Green MP Darleen Tana claims leaks of the report detailing the investigation of migrant exploitation allegations against her were intended to “pressure” her.

Article
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