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Cassandra

This got a brief mention late yesterday but it’s worth a repeat. Damien Grant’s pessimistic analysis: “There are historical examples where governments have changed the economic trajectory of their nations. Thatcher, Reagan, Keating and Douglas are obvious examples. Milei is on path to repeat their success.

This government is not of that ilk. Willis’ budget makes it clear that, some underlying success notwithstanding, it is merely minding the social welfare state until its true masters return to power.”

Let’s hope he’s totally wrong. But he was referring to the 2029 election and it’s quite possible that could result in a Labour/Green/Maori coalition. Followed by three years of decline as productive Kiwis – “the rich” – are penalised so Labour can reward their unproductive voters and give the Green and Maori Parties some tokens – some very expensive and constitution changing tokens. Depressing really. “Robbing Peter to pay Paul will always get the vote of Paul”. And Paora.
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May 26, 2025 8:01am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Not so sure about that either. Hipkins stated clearly many of the Greens taxes have merit, snd his non committal stance on Maori receiving the pension at 55 are a signed these weasels will stop at nothing to gain power
  
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  May 26, 2025 8:10am
- peterwn
  
  Funny there is all sorts of yelling and screaming about the Budget, extra money grossly inadequate for health, education, etc. Funny that there was not such yelling and screaming with Robbo’s budget.
  
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  May 26, 2025 8:20am
  - artemisia
    
    Much media coverage of the Budget was – we have a sad story, give us more money.
    
    If that’s the elevator speech of the article, it tells all we need to know about that media.
    
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    May 26, 2025 8:43am
  - R
    
    Seems to me that there is more yelling about where Nicola bought her dress and the designer origin. Must have been a satisfying Budget for most people
    
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    May 26, 2025 10:29am
- artemisia
  
  … ~~three~~ twenty years or more of decline as productive Kiwis and their families emigrate …. FIFY
  
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  May 26, 2025 8:39am
  - Paulus
    
    As Australia will not take Immigrants with a criminal record, what are we to be left with ?
    
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    May 26, 2025 10:50am
    - KH
      
      Criminals. And me.
      Better glue some broken glass to the top of the wall.
      
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      May 26, 2025 11:22am
- Simon
  
  “it is merely minding the social welfare state until its true masters return to power.”
  
  What rubbish. National are a core tax and spend on welfare party. National form more govts than Labo. Everything that Labo inflicts on society is bridge head by National
  
  If someone appears regularly in MSM it’s manipulative propaganda.
  
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  May 26, 2025 8:41am
  - Cassandra
    
    Suggest you read the article, Simon, before commenting “rubbish”.
    
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    May 26, 2025 9:49am
    - Simon
      
      Do you deny that National are a tax and spend welfare party?
      
      Grant writes tepid MSM trier boring garbage week in week out.
      
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      May 26, 2025 10:31am
      - Interested Party
        
        Maybe, but maybe they want to win the next election- that’s the reality of MMP
        
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        May 26, 2025 2:04pm
  - Warren Murray
    
    Damien is one of several regular opinion contributors to Stuff. But they preface every piece with something that seems sneering:
    “Damien Grant is an Auckland business owner and a regular opinion contributor for Stuff, writing from a libertarian perspective”.
    Compare that with another regular contributor, Verity Johnson – “Verity Johnson is an Auckland-based writer and business owner”.
    
    Their respective opinion pieces last weekend couldn’t have been more different. Disagree with either if you want but look at what they’re saying:
    
    Verity should never offer an opinion on public finances; she thinks it’s OK that NZ Govt debt is running at 45% of GDP because the UK is almost at 100% (with no regard to how that’s impacting on publicly funded services there). Apparently, she doesn’t understand 1. the difference between opex and capex, 2. that rising debt and having no plan to address it leads to higher debt servicing costs and 3. this, in turn, impinges on Government spending choices which hurts the people she professes to care for or 4. Intergeneration inequity which happens when the current generation imposes massive costs for services and benefits being enjoyed now on future generations.
    
    Damien does the opposite and foresees that NZ’s economic ruin is already locked in by incrementalist National tinkering which is soon to be followed by a return of Labour who with help of their leftist friends as the self-appointed guardians of the welfare state, when they return to power will accelerate our decline in living standards.
    
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    May 26, 2025 11:07am
- SmokerGuy
  
  I think you may find a different political landscape by then. The Greens are becoming more extreme and TPM are just plain crazy. I reckon Labour will reverse their stance not to work with NZ First next election (even if they have to knife Hipkins to do it) and I also think there may be a high change of another party rising who can work with both like United Future. I just don’t believe kiwis will ever support this crazy coalition so Labour will need to try and come up with a solution. There’s a very good opportunity for a new centrist party with the way things are going.
  
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  May 26, 2025 9:49am
  - cmm
    
    Unfortunately the increasingly radical Labour is labelled and “centre left”,and National who are really centre left are labelled “centre right”.
    
    The Overton window is lurching leftwards. This means that instead of getting a balanced left/right/left/right pendulum swing we are instead seeing left/centre left/left centre left. That Overton bias is not healthy for the future.
    
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    May 26, 2025 10:56am
    - Local Miller
      
      Except that we are seeing a definite swing in the electorate of other countries away from the left leaning center-right parties. The Tories losing ground in the UK, several countries in Europe, Trump in the USA, Milei in Argentina, to name a few.
      If the trend continues I suspect one of two things will happen here, or maybe a combination of these. National will lose ground to ACT, with maybe a bit going to NZF, to the point that National will be the 2nd or 3rd party behind ACT, or behind ACT and Liebour. The alternative is that National will finally wake up and realize what’s going down (them) and take a serious turn to the right. If these happen in tandem then we may end up with the two top parties being National & ACT, with Liebour a distant 3rd and NZF behind them.
      The Overton window is effectively driven by what the voters pick. If they start voting for more right of center policies, the window will shift to the right again.
      
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      May 26, 2025 11:29am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        If Nat’s swung harder to the right then say goodbye to ACT, I just don’t get you lot sometimes, nothing in MMP will see hard right parties dominating, and if you think I am wrong, then why are the polls not budging for ACT
        
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        May 26, 2025 3:29pm
      - Colville
        
        Local.
        
        If ACT picked up (say) another 5% wouldn’t it be sensible for National to move LEFT rather than right and therefore shutout Labour?
        
        Moving right to fight ACT just opens up ground for Labour to grab without effort.
        Becoming National in name only (some would say they are there already) guarantees power.
        
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        May 26, 2025 3:36pm
      - Local Miller
        
        Colville – Maybe Nat could swing further left, but I doubt it because it isn’t them that’s swinging, it’s the voter. If they swing further left, they will encourage more voters to vote ACT and NZF.
        We all tend to blame the party for the swing, but at least for National, they are simply following the voters. If the voters move right and National move left they will miss out.
        I think this is one way I think right leaning parties are different to left leaning parties. The left tend to drive radical ideas, looking for the latest progressive idea where the right tend to follow the voter. But voters are starting to move to the right, so the right parties should follow. If they don’t, well we are seeing what’s happening to the Tories in the UK.
        
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        May 26, 2025 4:05pm
      - Colville
        
        I think Covid pushed the electorate to the Left, ” safety” and stateisim but we are slowly moving back to normality which is freedom and individualisim.
        
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        May 26, 2025 6:02pm
  - rouppe
    
    I just don’t believe kiwis will ever support this crazy coalition so Labour will need to try and come up with a solution.
    
    Then you’re disconnected from reality. They have supported that coalition in the past, they are supportive of those partners right now and aren’t rejecting the Green tax plan.
    
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    May 26, 2025 12:40pm
    - Colville
      
      and NZF will go with Labour in a heartbeat if they get the chance.
      
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      May 26, 2025 3:37pm
      - pdm
        
        Imagine the Power Winston would have if that happened next year with Labour so weak.
        
        The change in Deputy PM falls nicely for him campaigning wise if he is that way inclined.
        
        Will his current caucus follow though? It is hard to see Casey Costello cosying up to Labour and Jones says never again.
        
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        May 26, 2025 7:37pm
  - Ghost
    
    There isn’t much in the polls between the left or right
    
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    May 26, 2025 12:43pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      The last 6 polls have had the coalition comfortably ahead. we can squabble about the margin, but the last poll has seen the widest margin between left and right for some time, and 8-point gap is comfortable, and the last few polls have noted as the TMP crooks drop back the 3-seat overhang has disappeared making an 8-seat gap on 120 seats as opposed to 123 look even better
      
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      May 26, 2025 3:27pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Peters ruled out working with Labour earlier this year, If you dump Hipkins who the hell would Peters want to work with?
    
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    May 26, 2025 12:51pm
    - Colville
      
      Got a citation for that?
      
      I bet there is plenty of wiggle room in the statement.
      
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      May 26, 2025 3:38pm
- wairarapapaul
  
  I don’t think they’ll win 2029. They really are useless and we should be seeing some significant change by then which voters will be counting on.
  
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  May 26, 2025 4:22pm
G the giant from Dunedin

Swarbrick gone off all half cocked on he’d idea the budget has. 700 million dollar hole because the KiwiSaver contribution s have to n s paid by government ( our taxes) what the [deleted] doesn’t mention is there is no cost in this budget because the 1% is not fully in place until 2027, what’s with these brainless financially illiterate fools?

[Mod – check your posts before you post them. Don’t call people names when your posts are this bad]
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May 26, 2025 8:13am
- Warren Murray
  
  Just over a week ago Chloe was exposed by Jack Tame for her poor grasp of finances when she tried (and failed) to explain the Greens’ alternative budget.
  
  So, her credibility on financial matters isn’t the best. That said, she has a point. Potentially there might be a $700million hit on Government finances as /when it makes provision for a more generous employer Kiwisaver contribution (let’s just accept her higher figure, for now). You’re also right that in the year ended 30 June 2026 this will only be a marginal cost because the higher cost only take effect in the final quarter of the year (i.e. from 1 April).
  
  However, the budget is supposed to include the estimated cost of policy changes in successive years, and it seems Treasury has slipped up on this one.
  
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  May 26, 2025 11:20am
  - AitchW
    
    None of which matters to Green voters. Jack was just bullying Chloe and she’s so brave to go on his show and we need to look after the poor and the young and the old and Chloe is going to do that cos she’s so clever!
    
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    May 26, 2025 11:34am
  - Local Miller
    
    It looks like the budget has tried to balance the increase in Kiwisaver employee & employer pretax contribution, and resultant loss of income tax against the drop in the Government contribution from ~$512 to ~$260 max.
    According to the Retirement Commission 2.2 million Kiwisavers received the Government contribution in 2024. This equates to $1.126 Billion. At the new $260 contribution rate, this should drop to around $572 million, so about $554 million to offset the tax loss. I’m obviously not accounting for increased uptake and the fact that at the higher contribution rate more accounts would qualify, but pushing the idea that there’s a $700 million hole means the Greens aren’t doing their homework, or are being deliberately misleading. Probably both!
    
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    May 26, 2025 11:47am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Yes and only 3 months will matter as it goes to 3.5% on April 1, and not 4% till 2028, they haven’t got a clue, Willis has already scotched Swarbricks bullshit, and has stated that ministries will have to find the money, but it looks like if some funding is required it won’t be until 2028
      
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      May 26, 2025 12:59pm
    - Paulus
      
      The only winners in Kiwisaver is the Fund Managers who take their different cut from wherever the person has, irrespective of whether a true profit is being made, as it is almost impossible for the member to understand or know.
      
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      May 26, 2025 3:24pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        So you don’t see that employee and employer putting in an extra 30% is not creating a far larger pool of money, they you probably believe Labour when they say $260 a year is worth 66k over a life time, its 12.5 K plus interest, but that money is only added yearly, good luck getting earnings of the $260 that may have gone into your account in 30 years’ time
        
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        May 26, 2025 3:34pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes there maybe, but the full implication won’t matter till 2028 now i have read it again, only 3 months will be required at 3.5% which will not be 700 million more, it will be nothing like it, and it will still be for ministries to find savings for the cost, its called operational matters.
    
    Swarbrick looked like a deer in head lights when asked why your higher taxes would shaft woman nurses, she had absolute no idea they are paid far higher than rotten unions and the rotten left ae suggestion
    
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    May 26, 2025 12:56pm
- KH
  
  I also don’t follow the Giants post at all ?????
  But that said on RNZ this morning we had Chloe Swarbrick spouting word salad trying to be financial. But was clueless.
  Then Corrin Dann tried Chloe’s line on Nicola Willis. She chewed him up and spat him out. Very politely mind. (cue bad salad jokes here)
  But it’s clear to me. Yes there is an increased Kiwisaver cost required for government employees. And yes it’s affordable because there will be less of them.
  
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  May 26, 2025 11:31am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes but it will not apply to this budget. Swarbrick is talking if it goes to 4%, it doesn’t, and it will go to 3.5% not till April next year, 3 months before a new budget process, they have saved half a billion off the government contribution (taxpayers money) so there will not be a need for funding of 700 mill to 2028. you said you can’t follow my post, but what is so hard to understand?
    
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    May 26, 2025 1:03pm
SometimesRight

I voted for this government, but in talking in my circles I can see they are losing support. They have not been transformational, nor fiscally prudent. The cuts should have been much deeper in non-core departments, and they should have some tangible improvements to celebrate by now in health and infrastructure. If National won’t be serious about the national debt, who will be?
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May 26, 2025 8:15am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Treasury has always said it will take up 2028 to get back to surplus, they maintained that stance.
  
  You will have your opposition support cuts to costs if they lift the pension age, but let me guess, you will be totally opposed
  
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  May 26, 2025 9:25am
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    While raising the retirement age might be necessary, my preference would be for them to go hard on downsizing the public service. Instead they appear to be locking in the massive staff increases – just two examples are the MoE still at 4000+ staff and the RBNZ staff over 600.
    
    Instead of attacking the wasteful spending you are proposing it is good they cut the $260 per year and raise the retirement age. I would be more open to those suggestions if they had got on and trimmed the public service and there was still a deficit. Come on National stop the feathering of Wellingtons nest at the expense of the rest of the country!
    
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    May 26, 2025 4:48pm
- pdm
  
  SR – I Party Voted for the ACT component of this Government.
  
  My electorate vote was for National to ensure the `airhead’ Anna Lorck did not win.
  
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  May 26, 2025 9:26am
  - Colville
    
    Ditto 🙂
    
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    May 26, 2025 9:34am
  - Phronesis
    
    That’s not really how tactical voting works. You should have voted for the airhead so that Labour got stuck with them. From the Party point of view they want your party vote and they place the people they want high on their list. Incompetent electorate mp’s winning their seats and pushing someone off the list are an absolute nightmare for the party. The main reason political parties wanted MMP is it gives the leadership certainty that their senior mp’s will stay in parliament.
    
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    May 26, 2025 10:54am
    - Quail
      
      Phronesis,
      You are so right ,MMP has been tried and found wanting.
      It is an undemocratic construct by party politicians who want the job for life. Half of them don’t even face the ballot.
      There is little accountability to the voting public!
      
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      May 26, 2025 11:31am
      - Paulus
        
        Scrap List Seats and Maori Seats and have elected members only !
        
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        May 26, 2025 3:27pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Ghez, you are taking tactical voting to a new level there
      
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      May 26, 2025 1:07pm
- SmokerGuy
  
  They may be losing support amongst your friends or family but who will you go to? There’s grumbles for sure from people such as yourself (and I agree with your POV to an extent) but this type of support will never go to Labour and co. Of course I don’t know you but based on your post ☺️
  
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  May 26, 2025 9:53am
- ISeeRed
  
  “I voted for this government”. Well, there’s your problem. National’s wishy-washy approach of managed decline has been apparent for many years. But the party faithful keep voting them in, so National never learns.
  
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  May 26, 2025 10:13am
  - Jigsaw
    
    No they don’t learn and what’s more they seem incapable of learning. They don’t even refer back to their founding principles so what hope is there for them? Time to abadnon National and to realise that they are spent force. Kaput!!
    
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    May 26, 2025 2:10pm
  - Paulus
    
    But last time look what the Ardern Robertson Orr Government did to us, most of which is irreparable.
    
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    May 26, 2025 3:29pm
cmm

“Robbing Peter to pay Paul will always get the vote of Paul”
Except 40,000 Peters get on the plane each year to pay their taxes elsewhere. In replacement we get 47,000 Pauls to drive Uber and vote for more taxes.
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May 26, 2025 8:23am
Cassandra

A second round of the hugely successful Supercars events will be held in Christchurch from next year with support from the Government’s Major Events Fund.

Announced today: “For more than 20 years, Supercars Championship events have played an important role in showcasing our beautiful country to an international audience, and I’m thrilled the South Island will now be part of this from next year,” Tourism and Hospitality Minister Louise Upston says. “The Government is investing $5.9 million from the Major Events Fund to support Supercars events in both Taupō and Christchurch for the next three years.”

It’s designed to attract overseas visitors as well as locals. I’m all for it (not that I’ll watch – I prefer paint drying – but petrol heads love it and good on them).

Lots of cars and planes pouring CO2 into the atmosphere. Almost no bicycles. But doesn’t it make a mockery of the Paris Accord BS? Climate change, the boiling planet, Al Gore, Greta Thunberg, our Greens, it was always mass hysteria.

By their actions ye shall judge them. National gets it right.
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May 26, 2025 8:25am
- cmm
  
  “The Government is investing $5.9 million ”
  
  Let’s call it what it is: spending.
  
  If it really is an “investment” then those benefiting from the exercise would surely be able to stump up the money. Everything does not have to be centrally planned.
  
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  May 26, 2025 8:39am
  - Cassandra
    
    Words mean different things when you’re in government. Governments always invest. It’s a different form of investment from your savings account. In fact if Labour has its way their investment will come from your savings account!
    
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    May 26, 2025 8:48am
    - cmm
      
      It is emotional wordplay to sound wise.
      squander, spend, invest really mean the same thing: pissing away the taxpayers’ money. Just the emotion is different.
      
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      May 26, 2025 9:20am
  - Colville
    
    cmm.
    The guys paying for the car race dont get to collect the GST from the hotels or bars or AirNZ flights for thousands of people.
    
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    May 26, 2025 9:37am
    - cmm
      
      Who do?
      Do you really think that these events are going to generated $6M in GST that would not have been spent otherwise?
      
      It is easy to show income, but there’s a hidden factor too. We don’t see the lost spending elsewhere.
      
      If people don’t spend money on going to super car races then they will spend money elsewhere. That still ends up creating GST or whatever. Thus to claim that these events create revenue is nonsense. At best they move it around.
      
      The claims of tourism benefits is a bit thin – especially in this day and age. How many bogans are really going to come to Christchurch from Australia to watch the car racing and then say: “wow, NZ has wonderful mountains. I will book a trip to come back next year. Maybe go skiing.”
      
      These days people are far more inclined to travel based on what they see on Youtube and Instagram. We don’t need events to drag them in.
      
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      May 26, 2025 11:06am
      - Graeme Hall
        
        Justifying these kind of sporting events requires zombie economics. Only the brain-dead believe it. The hard evidence gets hidden by the Govt or Local Body until the public have forgotten about it.
        
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        May 26, 2025 11:47am
- Master Mariner
  
  Net Zero is over,
  How do you tell the average Zealot that it was all smoke and mirrors and they had been conned.
  Much the same as the World will end on such a date ?? and it never happens to the Religious nutters that blindly follow and believe.
  The only difference from then and now is the “Science” was on there side until it was’nt.
  So in fact it was never more than a Cult.
  
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  May 26, 2025 8:59am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    And Y2K
    
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    May 26, 2025 10:02am
  - Albie
    
    I watched Professor William Happer’ s latest speech on CO2 on You Tube that was referred to on this blog a few days ago. To your point Mariner, he mentioned a book written by Charles Mackay in 1840 called Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the madness of crowds.
    He touched on how the book explains that humans are predisposed to jumping on band wagons, such as the current Anthropogenic climate change nonsense until the next catastrophic event is imminent and action MUST be taken whatever the cost………!
    I will attempt to get a copy of this book and report back at some stage.
    By the way, through mind frying calculations on his white board he figured if CO2 doubled to 88O ppm the Earths average temperature would only rise .75 degrees. Hardly the end of the world as we know it.
    
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    May 26, 2025 10:03am
    - Master Mariner
      
      ” such as the current Anthropogenic climate change nonsense until the next catastrophic event is imminent “.
      The interesting thing about this was we had Climate Change then Covid. The result was what was more important in certain “Agendas” in controlling the narrative?
      Climate Change or Covid ?
      This is where I believe it all started to unravel due to an inconsistent narrative / messaging trying to create fear on 2 fronts.
      It all boils back to “Take away the common enemy and all you get is Chaos” Mantra.
      
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      May 26, 2025 10:46am
    - colinm
      
      That book is long out of copywrite. It can be found on Project Gutenberg. https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24518
      
      Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds by Mackay
      
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      May 26, 2025 11:13am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Master
    “How do you tell the average Zealot that it was all smoke and mirrors and they had been conned.”
    
    It could be as simple as the media will rapidly reduce coverage of it and replace it with another constructed conflict.
    
    Most of the public will never remember it.
    
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    May 26, 2025 10:19am
    - Master Mariner
      
      Yes,
      “Most of the public will never remember it.”
      The working public will as it directly effects them daily,
      However with modern media and proponents of Net Zero by the “Political class” , There is always evidence of who was a proponent and Zealot.
      The rest of the World is playing a game of pretending it is real until it is not. Basically trying to limit any fall out while “some” are still pretending and playing along.
      
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      May 26, 2025 10:53am
    - Phronesis
      
      Bingo, the long term economic cost of the covid disaster and its mismanagement is potentially larger than the whole CC debacle (so far) and everyone is quietly ignoring what a cock up it was.
      
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      May 26, 2025 11:01am
- KH
  
  Government has no business putting other people’s money into such circuses.
  And I would say that even if I loved motorsport.
  
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  May 26, 2025 11:35am
peterwn

A priest was asking in the pulpit why Nicola Willis was allowing a pay increase for MP’s while blocking pay equity claims. What the Priest did not realise is the Renumeration Authority sets MPs’ salaries and allowances and Treasury just has to plug these into the estimates forming the basis of the Budget. Nicola has no authority to over-rule this. If Parliament thinks that MP’s should not receive a pay increase this time round, Parliament can decide accordingly. If Nicola did put such a proposal to the House it would be interesting to see what the voting patterns are.
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May 26, 2025 8:28am
- Prince
  
  If that’s the quality of your priest ‘analysis’, I’d be looking for another church.
  
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  May 26, 2025 9:03am
- Colville
  
  The Priest knew it was a bullshit question just as the media knew it was a bullshit question and published it anyway.
  
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  May 26, 2025 9:38am
- kowtow
  
  What priest , what denomination .
  
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  May 26, 2025 10:13am
- ObligatoryMarxist
  
  There was an independent authority making decisions on Pay Equity claims, and the government felt it had the right to unilaterally change the ones agreed to and void the ones still before that authority. So that argument doesn’t exactly wash.
  
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  May 26, 2025 11:34am
  - Paulus
    
    I see a new Committee of Women has been formed to go at the Government over Women’s Pay Equity under the leadership of Marilyn Waring (who I once admired).
    As 99% of New Zealand women are not involved or interested, could be a waste of time, but the media will love it.
    
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    May 26, 2025 3:36pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Yep, self appointed wankers giving themselves a grandiose name. People’s Select Committee. The people already have Select Committees and they don’t include Marilyn.
      
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      May 26, 2025 6:17pm
    - pdm
      
      Who/what is funding them.
      
      It should definitely not be taxpayers.
      
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      May 26, 2025 7:48pm
- KH
  
  Lots of agitation and fury about the pay equity amendment.
  None I have asked can name any of the actual actual changes.
  
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  May 26, 2025 11:37am
David Garrett

Cass: “I prefer [watching] paint drying”

I’m with you mate…I could never understand guys watching cars going round and round for hours – they don’t even have spectacular crashes any more to liven things up!
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May 26, 2025 8:30am
- cmm
  
  They could have got this all for free by not crushing boy racers’ cars.
  
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  May 26, 2025 8:41am
  - imalwaysright
    
    I would pay to see that.
    Amateur drivers, in cars they can’t drive, with no rules and no health and safety.
    Grand prize is a thousand bucks, a pram for their girlfriend, and a years supply of vapes.
    
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    May 26, 2025 9:35am
    - Colville
      
      Start the race Le Mons style but with a line of coke and a large can of Monster before they get behind the wheel…
      
      What could possibly go wrong?
      
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      May 26, 2025 11:04am
      - imalwaysright
        
        You are a marketing genius.
        Coke adds Life !
        
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        May 26, 2025 11:37am
  - PurplePen
    
    Boy racers. Are there any girl racers? Bring provocative, what about they/them racers … LOL.
    
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    May 26, 2025 10:32am
- Cassandra
  
  I have grandchildren who love it including one woman. If she could get a job in motor sport she’d take it (and is probably looking). She manages the electronic signage on Britain’s motorways. Next best thing, I suppose.
  
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  May 26, 2025 8:43am
- JackRabbit
  
  Almost as pointless as watching grown men run up and down a piece of lawn, arguing over an inflated piece of leather.///
  
  For everyone else there is the couch, bags of chips, and watching continuous re-runs of “Are You Being Served?”
  
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  May 26, 2025 8:52am
  - David Garrett
    
    Jack: “Are you being served”? Ah NO…but I do have the complete set of “Minder” from 1979 until Dennis Waterman left…and the complete set of “The Fugitive” starring the late David Janssen.
    
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    May 26, 2025 9:29am
    - JackRabbit
      
      Both great series. But “Are you being served”, while mildly funny in the day, in today’s world would be like watching paint dry.
      
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      May 26, 2025 9:52am
    - greybeard
      
      Recently I have been watching the original “The Equalizer” series from mid-1980s, starring Edward Woodward. Not as good as the “Callan” series from the early 1970s though. Remember that ?
      
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      May 26, 2025 9:52am
      - Quail
        
        Go
        Woodward was a real talent with presence.
        Lonely not quite the same!
        
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        May 26, 2025 3:59pm
    - Sparrow
      
      Dennis Waterman sadly died a few years ago. He lived in the next street to me as a kid in Clapham. In those days a working class area not today. Dennis use to get a hard time from local likely lads for attending a drama school. His brother Peter was British Welterweight Champion. Simpler times.
      
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      May 26, 2025 11:26am
      - David Garrett
        
        Sparrow: Yes, Waterman and Cole were such a great combination in “Minder”. The series lost its way when Waterman left…his younger replacement just didn’t “have it”.
        
        Now, rather than all those great series they broadcast “Married at first sight”, “Housewives of [fill in area]” and endless cooking or house renovation shows. Utter tripe. I don’t think I have watched broadcast TV in ten years or more.
        
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        May 26, 2025 12:19pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        There was a boy at school named George Cole. Inevitably, his nickname was Arfur.
        
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        May 26, 2025 6:19pm
  - Gravelroad
    
    Jack Rabbit – if you are referring to playing games such as rugby, I disagree that it is pointless.
    I saw with my son and now young grandson, that playing a team game – especially at a young age – provides kids with the opportunity to meet and interact with a much wider section of people.
    They learn how to be part of a group with a purpose.
    They learn that they have to fit in and anti-social behaviour is not likely to get you far in a team environment even if you are the one with the most talent.
    You flout the rules of the game – you get sent off.
    Life skills.
    
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    May 26, 2025 10:03am
    - ISeeRed
      
      He said watching, not playing.
      
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      May 26, 2025 10:18am
    - kowtow
      
      Yep , there are huge benefits to real engagement in sports .
      
      btw while I too have no interest in “motor sports” it is from this that many improvements to motoring in general have sprung.
      
      and bbtw it was the same with Air “sports” .Schneider trophy.
      
      The development of the Spitfire for example.
      
      David Niven starred in an excellent movie ( combining kb posters penchant for entertainment and all things blokey) about same;
      
      ‘First of the Few ‘
      
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      May 26, 2025 10:23am
      - Gravelroad
        
        My uncle was one of them.
        Kiwi pilot in the RAF, spitfire shot down over the English Channel, 26/08/40 , his birthday.
        
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        May 26, 2025 11:03am
      - peterwn
        
        Spitfires with cameras were used for doing a ‘Google Earth’ of Germany at start of WW2. They would also have been used for before and after photos when the Dambusters squadron wrecked the Germans’ dams.
        
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        May 26, 2025 12:14pm
      - rouppe
        
        @peterwn
        
        I thought they used (twin engine) Mosquito’s for that. Faster.
        
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        May 26, 2025 12:50pm
      - David Garrett
        
        Gravel: I hope your Uncle survived…many who had to ditch in the channel did…from the beginning the Brits had quite good air-sea rescue. If he didn’t survive it ought to be – and I’m sure it is – a great source of pride for you to have an Uncle who was one of “the few”.
        
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        May 26, 2025 1:13pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        They used both Mosquitos and Spitfires- and other aircraft.
        There’s a Movie currently available on Prime Video called ‘Spitfire over Berlin’ about one on a mission.
        
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        May 26, 2025 2:19pm
      - Gravelroad
        
        In answer to D. Garret’s question below:
        No, my uncle did not survive.
        He parachuted out of the plane but the weight of the parachute caused him to drown.
        His body was washed up on coast of Belgium.
        Can someone please tell me why some comments on here have a “report” button but no “reply” option?
        There are five comments below with no facility to reply, just report.
        The topic is not controversial or subject to insults, or wrong information.
        
        [There is a WordPress limit on the number of nested replies. mod.]
        
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        May 26, 2025 3:21pm
    - JackRabbit
      
      You missed the ///
      
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      May 26, 2025 11:45am
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Absolutely Gravel. And it carries on as you get older. I started playing Prem cricket at 18, and thought the 25 year olds were adults and anyone over 30 was positively ancient!! But interacting with them all improves your social skills quickly. It certainly gave me skills to relate to people older than me when I started working.
      
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      May 26, 2025 6:48pm
  - Flossie
    
    My word Jack! Do try to keep up. Leather balls haven’t been around for a very long time. Just like Are You Being Served.
    
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    May 26, 2025 1:14pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Oo er, missus!
      
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      May 26, 2025 6:21pm
  - Jake Dee
    
    The various sports and ball games have a deeper purpose than just fitness for the players and entertainment for the spectators, they’re tribal warfare by proxy.
    My tribe can fight your tribe, win some lose some but nobody’s village gets burned down and nobody ends up with their head on a stake.
    Then next week we can do it all again.
    Stay at home watch TV and eat chips and you’re just going to get dumb(er) and fat(er).
    
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    May 26, 2025 5:20pm
Maggy Wassilieff

For our bicycle stand watchers….

https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/360697523/long-awaited-numbers-paint-bleak-picture-costly-bike-racks
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May 26, 2025 8:32am
- G152
  
  Frankton railway station has a great cycle stand and I once saw a cycle in it
  
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  May 26, 2025 8:48am
  - kowtow
    
    In a way these things are actually Soviet style version of the Potemkin Village make glorious work schemes/ public propaganda “art” pieces .
    
    They’re there to promote /sell an ideological theory rather than any actual utility .
    
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    May 26, 2025 10:27am
  - AitchW
    
    Frankton Hamilton? You wouldn’t leave a bike
    there anyway…
    
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    May 26, 2025 11:47am
- cmm
  
  I have no opposition to installing bike racks. But $84,000+ bike racks is ridiculous and those double decker racks doubly so.
  
  Picking up an Ebike with panniers (20 to 25 kg) and putting it in the top rack must be challenging. On top of that, I think it would seem far too easy to scratch your $7000 ebike’s paint job.
  
  A $2k bike rack with 5 or 6 spaces is all that is needed.
  
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  May 26, 2025 8:49am
  - pdm
    
    What happened to chaining ones bike to a lamp post or parking meter?
    
    6 to 8 of us used to leave our bikes all day leaning against a fence on the Smedley Road Corner with SH50 about a mile north of Tikokino while we went to High School.
    
    Never lost a bike in the 4 and a half years I did so.
    
    Also leaned my bike, with several others, against the wall of the Pacific Hotel in Heretaunga Street Hastings for a couple of hours after work while we had a beer or three. Again never lost a bike that I know of.
    
    No chains in either case.
    
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    May 26, 2025 9:32am
    - Colville
      
      pdm.
      
      You weren’t riding a $15,000 EBike** tho were you.!
      
      The point of the bike stand is to get all the bikes off the footpath so people can walk.
      
      ** the house a couple of doors down the beach got ripped off a couple of days ago, as its down a long drive and a holiday home. Booze gone and they picked up the shed keys, unlocked garage and the guys side by side was in there (keys in it) with 2 matching EBikes. All gone! How does someone get to own an international company and be so thick?
      
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      May 26, 2025 9:46am
    - KH
      
      Three lovely kids bikes at the end of their drive every school day for some years. No problem.
      But we don’t live northwards
      
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      May 26, 2025 11:43am
    - artemisia
      
      Two family kids bikes nicked. One found a k away wrecked. The other, dad knocked on the door under suspicion over the back fence. The lady of the house answered. I’ve come for that – the dad said – pointing at his kid’s bike in the hall.
      
      Medium density social housing complex. Family stopped kids from there coming to play when they realised they had to check visitors’ pockets every time.
      
      Family was not at all well off, and bikes nicked was a big deal.
      
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      May 26, 2025 12:41pm
  - PurplePen
    
    Bike rack in Beijing
    
    https://images.app.goo.gl/t674EPoAJ42wBver8
    
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    May 26, 2025 10:36am
    - pdm
      
      My recollection of Amsterdam in 2004 is much the same PP.
      
      Bikes everywhere.
      
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      May 26, 2025 7:56pm
  - rouppe
    
    Thing is, cmm, the reason the bike rack costs $85000 (or in the Shell Lane example half a million) is that the top ranks can be slid out and titled down to (near) ground level.
    
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    May 26, 2025 12:53pm
- PurplePen
  
  The article mentions with one of the racks 25 year life, it equates to $6k a year. WCC has just announced motorbikes will be charged 1 dollar an hour for parking, could bicycles be next charged. Would be easy enough to require bikes to be registered and e-tagged for parking wardens to then scan bikes remotely. I’ll write in and suggest it.
  
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  May 26, 2025 10:40am
  - Quail
    
    PP Yes , cool idea ,they could implement a new regime using the new gun law template,
    I suspect more New Zealanders are injured on / by cycles than guns anyway.
    
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    May 26, 2025 11:54am
cmm

I’ve said in the past that beneficiaries should so some community work.

Sure, the Greens are emotively calling this “forced labour” (supposed to sound like slavery or Nazi-era Germany).

I suppose me handing over tax is not forced is it? Funny how they don’t see the other half of the equation.

Greens should be loving this new policy. It is completely in line with Marxism.

Karl Marx didn’t say: “to each according to his needs and wants” (ie. just hand outs).
He said “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”. In other words, everyone works to the extent they are able.

If you don’t have traditional work, then how about doing community work? That is your “ability” that Marx speaks of. Go pick up litter. Tidy up parks. Paint out graffiti,…

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360701168/new-community-work-sanction-kicks-beneficiaries
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May 26, 2025 8:36am
- David Garrett
  
  cmm: Paint out graffiti? You can’t be serious! That would be trampling on the rights of the vandals to express themselves!
  
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  May 26, 2025 8:40am
  - cmm
    
    It would seem that littering is also a cultural right too.
    
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    May 26, 2025 8:52am
    - John Loveridge
      
      Along with fly tipping, marijuana growing, uncontrolled ownership of deeply horrible dogs, theft of catalytic converters, shoplifting from Pak ‘N Save (gotta feed the whanau somehow)…
      
      I love visiting the Far North, where I grew up.
      
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      May 26, 2025 11:03am
- I remember when
  
  Knew a retiree who always painted over the graffiti on his local bus shelter.
  Said as soon as it appeared he painted over it.
  If he did this he said it seemed to reduce the frequency.
  
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  May 26, 2025 8:53am
  - David Garrett
    
    I remember: That would make sense; although it’s vandalism, there is undoubtedly some talent in a lot of graffiti…it would be most annoying to have a few hours of one’s artistic endeavour painted over hours after you had completed it..
    
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    May 26, 2025 9:16am
  - Flossie
    
    A friend who lived on a prominent corner was having a lot of graffiti defacing his fence until someone advised him to paint it green. I have no idea what the logic behind green paint was, but it certainly reduced the problem.
    
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    May 26, 2025 9:24am
    - Jethrod
      
      And that would be a good subject for investigation, paid for by one of those useless government organizations that supply endless money to the investigator.
      (For the life of me I can’t think of the name of it but Grant and Cindy would’ve known it)
      
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      May 26, 2025 9:36am
      - Pope Punctilious II
        
        Please tell me who are these “useless government organizations that supply endless money to the investigator”. It’s currently very difficult to get research funding in this country, and funding is never “endless” (except maybe if you’re doing maatauranga).
        
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        May 26, 2025 10:35am
  - alloytoo
    
    Of the buses?
    
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    May 26, 2025 10:10am
  - PurplePen
    
    Correct. We’ll known by local authorities that the best way to stop graffiti is to paint over it as soon as it’s done, the sooner the better. The graffiti painters get a kick out of seeing their work, painting over it takes the kick out of it.
    
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    May 26, 2025 10:42am
- Gravelroad
  
  From the article:
  “It is forced labour. People will be forced to do free labour for a community organisation or risk losing your benefit. There is no evidence to suggest this sanction could lead to better outcomes for people on the benefit,” he said.
  Is there anyone more pompous and entitled than a Green Party MP?
  We can’t expect people being paid a benefit by the taxpayer to do work for a community organisation?
  Too high and mighty for that.
  As someone who contributes to several community orgs in a voluntary, unpaid capacity, I would suggest that many unemployed would be more trouble than they are worth to the management of these orgs.
  Otherwise they would already be employed in the paid workforce.
  
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  May 26, 2025 9:10am
  - cmm
    
    “There is no evidence to suggest this sanction could lead to better outcomes for people on the benefit,”
    
    Of course there is huge benefit.
    
    Just learning the “skill” of reliably getting out of bed, sorting out breakfast and turning up at the required place at the required time sober is valuable and makes you employable.
    
    Done regularly, even under threat, these activities become habits.
    
    Such habits are pretty much all you need for many jobs (fast food, labouring etc) and serve as the basis for building a career.
    
    In many ways earning school qualifications, and even some university degrees, are more a proxy for having good habits (showing up, completing assignments,…) than anything outrageous such as intelligence.
    
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    May 26, 2025 9:32am
  - JackRabbit
    
    It is forced labour. People will be forced to do free labour for a community organisation or risk losing your benefit.
    
    And they conveniently forget, or more likely are unaware of the forced labour that everyone else does to pay for their handout.
    
    They probably also believe that food comes from supermarkets, not farms.
    
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    May 26, 2025 10:07am
  - John Loveridge
    
    It’s not free labour. They get paid a benefit in return.
    
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    May 26, 2025 11:08am
    - cmm
      
      They don’t say free. They say “forced”.
      
      Of course it isn’t forced either. Nobody is forcing them to take the dole.
      
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      May 26, 2025 12:44pm
      - John Loveridge
        
        “People will be forced to do free labour…”
        
        Both, cmm.
        
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        May 26, 2025 2:22pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Green MP = just another beneficiary for whom labour is anathema
    
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    May 26, 2025 6:50pm
- Taieri
  
  It is completely in line with Marxism
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  Much older than Marxism in fact.
  
  Comrades Lenin and Stalin, saying (and incorporating it into the Soviet constitution) “He who does not work shall not eat” merely quote the sentiments expressed in the Second Epistle to Thessalonians 3.10 attributed to Paul the Apostle:
  “For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat”.
  
  On this score, I happen to agree with both illustrious comrades and with Paul as well.
  
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  May 26, 2025 9:29am
  - cmm
    
    It is of course somewhat ironic for Marx to have said this.
    
    Marx and his side-kick Engels were the original Chardonnay Socialists. They never did a jot of real work their entire lives – instead living off stipends from their factory owning families.
    
    They were party hounds and not above exploiting workers. Marx famously knocked up the house keeper and then threw her out.
    
    Apart from the knocking up the housekeeper bit, he could have been a Green MP.
    
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    May 26, 2025 11:19am
    - KH
      
      Yep. Knocking up is unusual in the Greens. But they sometimes manage.
      
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      May 26, 2025 1:40pm
- Paulus
  
  You cannotbe refering to New Zealand – nobody can be made to work !
  
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  May 26, 2025 11:01am
  - John Loveridge
    
    I believe the country being referenced isn’t New Zealand, but the Soviet Socialist Shithole of Aotearoa.
    
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    May 26, 2025 2:24pm
- [email protected]
  
  “I’ve said in the past that beneficiaries should so some community work.”
  
  There are those of us who spent years volunteering (me eight years Coast Guard). Now I am retired and feel I’ve done my bit and don’t want to be forced to volunteer”.
  
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  May 26, 2025 11:26am
  - cmm
    
    I don’t count retirees in beneficiaries.
    
    Retirees have done their bit.
    
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    May 26, 2025 12:45pm
    - John Loveridge
      
      Except those that go from long term benefits straight to the pension. I know a few of those.
      
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      May 26, 2025 2:25pm
- KH
  
  I know a very wealthy woman who adopted the local pedestrian crossing. One of those ones with fancy tussock planting etc.
  Every few days she goes there and tidies it up, removes the litter etc.
  
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  May 26, 2025 11:46am
Flossie

Sometime after 6pm yesterday my phone screeched it’s test disaster warning. I am on the Spark network. Partners phone, with One NZ, didn’t make a sound all night.
Is there somebody taking note of what did or didn’t work?
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- cmm
  
  They don’t necessarily test all networks at the same time.
  I beleived there is a feedback system whereby they can interrogete phones to figure out whether or not they got the message.
  
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  May 26, 2025 8:51am
  - rouppe
    
    Then it isn’t much of a test.
    
    When I worked at Westpac we would get up at 1am to do a disaster recovery test.
    
    Switch over to the dr servers, switch over to and make primary the dr database, all the infrastructure we were in control over was switched over. We ran it for a week. Then got up at 1am again and switched it back.
    
    Definitely not seamless, but we made sure the darn stuff worked.
    
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    May 26, 2025 12:59pm
    - cmm
      
      It really does depend on what you are testing.
      
      If, say, the One NZ network just did a massive firmware update to all their towers then it would make sense for them to run a test. It wouldn’t necessarily make sense for others to to also run a test.
      
      I think though it is one of those things where the whole system should get a test at least 2x a year – like the tsunami siren tests.
      
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      May 26, 2025 2:52pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  We were at the lone star in Dunedin last night, there was a huge amount of phones going off, I have heard people on one NZ before say their phones did not go off. My work phone used to be a windows phone and it did not go off in the passed even with Spark, but has always gone off with the Apple phone
  
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  May 26, 2025 8:54am
  - sirknz
    
    Not surprised that a windows phone wouldn’t go off. It was dsicontinued in 2017 so it likley didn’t have the correct gear to receive the signal.
    
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    May 26, 2025 11:46am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Yes, and the phones were upgraded twice since then, did you miss the bit were I said my old work phone was upgraded to Apple?
      
      My point was when windows phones were operating, they never went off when they did the alert
      
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      May 26, 2025 1:12pm
- JackRabbit
  
  And even on the same network, they stagger the txts, sending them in groups. Otherwise they would overload the networks, and a fair percentage of the txts would either never arrive, or be delayed by ever increasing delay times on each failed retry.
  
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  May 26, 2025 8:57am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Not what I noticed last night in a busy restaurant, everyone’s phone went off at the same time, and none went off later
    
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    May 26, 2025 9:27am
    - JackRabbit
      
      …last night in a busy restaurant, ~~everyone’s~~ many people’s phones went off at the same time…
      
      Our house, two phones, same network, 10 minutes apart.
      
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      May 26, 2025 11:51am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Okay, but there was not multi-instances of the phones going off last night, they all went off at the same time
        
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        May 26, 2025 1:13pm
  - cmm
    
    The alerts do not send texts. They are broadcast.
    
    A text is sent individually to every phone and is very slow. For each phone you need to send out a sequence:
    * Where is the phone? Ok, there you are.
    * Here’s a message for you (sent from the nearest tower).
    * Did you get the message? Didn’t OK, we’ll try again and again…
    … then on to the next phone.
    
    A broadcast is a message that can be sent once and multiple phones will pick it up at the same time. The connections are slightly unreliable, so the message is sent out multiple times from all the towers with the hope that all (or at least sufficiently many) phones receive the message.
    
    Clearly broadcasting uses far less traffic.
    
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    May 26, 2025 9:40am
    - Jethrod
      
      My wife and I have a phone each with Spark. I got an alert at 1815, but still waiting for my wife’s alert. Have checked settings etc., but all seems fine .
      
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      May 26, 2025 9:46am
    - Jethrod
      
      And on a different subject….. did you, cmm, receive an email from our illustrious district council and Sandra, about water solutions they are working on?
      
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      May 26, 2025 10:14am
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        Not that I am aware of.
        
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        May 26, 2025 2:48pm
      - Jethrod
        
        Ok
        
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        May 26, 2025 4:34pm
    - JackRabbit
      
      The alerts do not send texts. They are broadcast.
      
      True, but the distinction is lost on most people.
      
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      May 26, 2025 11:48am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Agreed, a text is a text, but the alert fills the screen not the text box
        
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        May 26, 2025 1:14pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  2degrees phones went off and then 30 seconds later my Vodafone one rang.
  
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  May 26, 2025 9:04am
- kiwikidsnz
  
  I’m with One NZ & the warning sounded as in previous years. Suggest your partner recheck phone settings.
  
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  May 26, 2025 9:16am
- Taieri
  
  2 degrees also tested it last night.
  
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  May 26, 2025 9:31am
- pdm
  
  Floss – I had my 2 degrees and a work vodafone last evening.
  
  Both screeched at about 6.30pm.
  
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  May 26, 2025 9:35am
I remember when

Is this another point to consider when making the drive from smoking to vaping?
A chap that has given up smoking many times tells that he feels much worse now he is vaping.
The trouble seems to be that as vaping is cheaper there is always a vape at the ready.
You don’t have to get the tobacco and paper out, roll a cigarette before you start vaping.
So less time to change your mind.
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May 26, 2025 8:46am
- David Garrett
  
  I remember: “A chap WHO has given up smoking…”
  
  Sorry mate, that one is like fingernails down a blackboard for me…(I guess you have to be a certain age to know what fingernails down a blackboard sounded like…bloody awful!)
  
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  May 26, 2025 9:14am
  - Jethrod
    
    Perhaps it is just another way of putting it, that just doesn’t suit you anal ways.😁
    
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    May 26, 2025 10:17am
    - David Garrett
      
      Jethrod: Ah, NO…using “that” for people is just plain old bad English.
      
      But perhaps you are a person who uses “like” as a conjunction every third word?
      
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      May 26, 2025 11:07am
      - Jethrod
        
        “Like” is an anathema to me used the way you suggested I use it.😀
        
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        May 26, 2025 4:32pm
  - Dudley Quaffquaff
    
    Tell it to Shakespeare
    
    The man that hath no music in himself, Nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, Is fit for treason, stratagems and spoils
    
    The Merchant of Venice, V.i.82-84
    
    And indeed God
    
    He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
    
    John 8:7
    
    And nobody who thinks that later translations improve on the King James version, has any business opining on any matter to do with the English language.
    
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    May 26, 2025 11:00am
  - Ghost
    
    Shut up, even just mentioning that has made my spine shiver.
    
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    May 26, 2025 11:23am
- Flossie
  
  Most smokers probably have ready rolled cigarettes in a handy flip top pack.
  
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  May 26, 2025 9:20am
  - Colville
    
    Tailor made darts are $2 each now. Are you driving a bloody Rolls Royce?
    
    *Praise be that I never picked up THAT particular habit.
    
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    May 26, 2025 9:51am
    - Flossie
      
      No, no Rolls, and not a smoker either.
      
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      May 26, 2025 10:42am
      - Jethrod
        
        100 plus ticks for humor!
        
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        May 26, 2025 10:45am
- Taieri
  
  A chap that has given up smoking many times tells that he feels much worse now he is vaping.
  ———
  
  I’ve had a completely opposite experience. May be this chap does both, smokes and vapes as well?
  
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  May 26, 2025 9:33am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Samuel Clemens (aka Mark Twain) said that giving up smoking was easy, he’d done it hundreds of times….
  
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  May 26, 2025 9:36am
- Colville
  
  I Remember.
  With vaping they get to choose how strong the nicotine is… so its a choice.
  
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  May 26, 2025 9:53am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Perhaps he should have just given up smoking the once and done it right.
  
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  May 26, 2025 11:20am
imalwaysright

Are medical staff and public servants still prohibited from telling children that sexual transitioning (chemical castration) may not be a good idea?
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May 26, 2025 9:04am
Prince

If that’s the quality of your priest ‘analysis’, I’d be looking for another church.
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May 26, 2025 9:06am
Master Mariner

Where is the transparency ?
The Germans ( And the rest of the EU) want the details over private text messages between EU president and Pfeizer CEO in procuring the vaccines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oULMnZiTkXM
PFIZER-GATE verdict – A resounding Slap in the Face for Ursula von der Leyen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xvwZtkXEv0

Where is our transparency in the mysterious phone call from the “Annointed One” in shutting down NZ?

Where is the details of “Due Diligence” in the efficacy of the Vaccine by our MOH.
The chickens are coming home to Roost
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May 26, 2025 9:24am
imalwaysright

Regards Tikanga.

Are there any more Maori words, that the courts, lawyers and government are unable to define, that they are planning to enshrine in our laws?
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May 26, 2025 9:25am
- mandk
  
  Whakapapa is another one.
  
  I commented the other day on the absurdity of some Māori spokesperson or other claiming that horses were part of their whakapapa.
  
  It seems that these words, and probably others, can mean whatever Māori find convenient at the time.
  
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  May 26, 2025 11:43am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Mauri and Mana
  
  1. Each water body has its own mauri….. hence local iwi are the experts to monitor the state of the water.
  https://www.tapuika.iwi.nz/mauriometer/
  
  2. Mana
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/520434/can-the-courts-measure-mana-how-maori-tikanga-is-challenging-the-justice-system
  
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  May 26, 2025 3:07pm
cmm

Another playmate for Kris and Cru Kahui.

Well someone proved he was a man…. You’ve got to wonder what anyone gets out of bludgeoning babies and toddlers to death.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360701451/beautiful-baby-girl-allegedly-murdered-northland-identified
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May 26, 2025 9:56am
- imalwaysright
  
  It always amazes me how the baby murderers manage to escape the grasp of the warriors in the whanau and make it to the safety of police custody.
  
  A true warrior race would have despatched this vermin to many resting places.
  
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  May 26, 2025 10:08am
  - Paulus
    
    Perhaps the Wanau are complicit to these sorts of things !
    
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    May 26, 2025 11:03am
    - mandk
      
      They certainly have been in the case of “Baby Ru”
      
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      May 26, 2025 11:38am
      - imalwaysright
        
        Cops can’t work out who, of three scumbags in a house, brutally tortured and murdered an infant.
        The other question is why did the other two not point the finger ?
        Probably because they ALL beat the infant to death.
        Team effort?
        
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        May 26, 2025 12:04pm
      - mandk
        
        @ imalwaysright
        
        It was obviously a team effort.
        
        I can’t understand why the three suspects can’t be held for conspiring to pervert the course of justice.
        
        If they were, I’m sure that one, or even two, of them would identify on the guilty party.
        
        Unless, of course, the killing was a joint enterprise.
        
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        May 26, 2025 2:56pm
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        Presactly
        
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        May 26, 2025 4:41pm
- Gravelroad
  
  Yes, well – let’s be blunt:
  These murders of small children by thugs who can’t control their tempers are usually greeted by “shocked” weeping and wailing from close family who “can’t believe this has happened to our angel” and “can’t stop crying “ etc etc.
  The reality is that this child probably had family members who knew the killer was hurting her and they turned a blind eye to it – because in their drug and alcohol fuelled existence the needs of the adult are always greater than the needs of the child.
  
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  May 26, 2025 10:17am
- David Garrett
  
  cmm: Yes…another little Maori girl killed by Mum’s latest “partner”…removing the evidence of the last loser who was in her bed…or perhaps the one before given the little girl’
  s age. And complete silence from Maori leaders – at least in public.
  
  And this should be a great cause for concern:
  
  On average there are 73 homicides in New Zealand each year. The rate of 1.3 homicides per 100,000 people is above the OECD median of 0.95 per 100,000
  
  From the 1920’s to the early 70’s, our homicide rate averaged 0.5 per 100,000 of population p.a. At least it’s now somewhat better than it was: in the early 90’s the homicide rate in south Auckland was about 1.5 per…or three times what it was thirty years earlier.
  
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  May 26, 2025 11:13am
  - cmm
    
    Apparently it’s worse in Canada. Surprise, surprise, the worst stats are in the province with the highest % of first nations people.
    
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    May 26, 2025 11:24am
- MCōs
  
  Lyse Doucet reports on a Palestinian doctor who lost 9/10 kids to Israeli bombing
  Collateral damage or something
  https://x.com/bbclysedoucet/status/1926668843142742144?s=46&t=XZLqGbhN-xeYzprhTaktsg
  
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  May 26, 2025 2:31pm
alloytoo

I did some playing around with Grok the other day and I asked it evaluate the throughput of bus lanes vs general lanes (peoplewise) (in Auckland)

Assuming buses are full they transport more people.

I asked Grok to assume that buses were 20% full (thumbsuck based on my observation), at that average patronage bus lanes transport fewer people and don’t really justify their existence.

I then asked Grok to estimate the average usage across the Auckland network……

22-23%.

Now I hasten to add that some bus routes run at very high capacities and certainly justify their existence, but that then suggests that vast sections of the network are operating below 20%.

AT’s solution to everything is to steal tarmac to create dedicated bus lanes for what is a largely inflexible demand. Converting dedicated bus lanes to T2/T3 lanes might actually yield some useful benefit.
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May 26, 2025 10:24am
- PurplePen
  
  If you want, another AI to try is Perplexity. I use that and grok.
  
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  May 26, 2025 10:46am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Purple
    why use an “A”I when you can use the real thing.
    Thinking things through and mining information is a skill that humans have made the most of.
    That’s how we learn and remember.
    
    Back yourself.
    
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    May 26, 2025 11:28am
    - PurplePen
      
      One might have said the same about the internet or wiki pages. AI is just another tool. For example I wanted to know ways to protect circuit boards from outdoors atmospheric conditions that excludes a hermetically sealed box. AI listed several methods that I could then go and explore.
      
      I was looking for places to stay recently in a south American country and wanted soundproofed, in a quiet area of the city and a serviced apartment that’s relatively new. AI gave me options to consider.
      
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      May 26, 2025 3:58pm
- Dudley Quaffquaff
  
  That’s only a partial metric. Even if you assign zero value to emissions reductions, you should still value the fact that everybody on the bus is not in a car, and therefore both freeing up space on the road when they’re moving and not requiring a parking spot when they’re not.
  
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  May 26, 2025 11:11am
  - graham
    
    Many people drive their car to the Park and Ride to catch the bus 🙂
    
    In Auckland, I know the Albany Park and Ride is usually full on weekdays.
    
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    May 26, 2025 11:55am
    - MCōs
      
      There is a car park at the Onehunga train station we use if we want to go lower Queen St.
      these days there’s plenty of space and it’s a quick ride to the ferry terminal and thence to some exotic location! And it’s all free!
      
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      May 26, 2025 2:39pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Not free, Cossie. A moment’s thought tells you that the idea is ridiculous.
        
        Paid for by someone else, is what you have described.
        
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        May 26, 2025 6:57pm
      - MCōs
        
        It’s like the loyalty cards at the coffee shops. The tenth one isn’t really free
        
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        May 26, 2025 9:13pm
BeaB

The media are still banging on about the Nicola Willis dress. From my recent experience she would have found it almost impossible to find that beautiful vivid blue in NZ shops which are full of depressingly black, brown, maroon and dreary green clothes.
Just like the drab and frumpy stuff Jacinda used to wear with that awful coat flapping open. Not that we were ever allowed to utter a word about her outfits unless we were gushing adoringly.
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May 26, 2025 11:06am
- H. Upmann
  
  Not to mention the always not-brushed Ardern hair. A fashion disaster.
  
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  May 26, 2025 11:35am
  - graham
    
    And the awful clodhopper boots …
    
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    May 26, 2025 11:57am
- Taieri
  
  The media are still banging on about the Nicola Willis dress.
  ————-
  
  Who cares? Apart from the “media” of course…
  
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  May 26, 2025 12:04pm
- RichardF
  
  This had me in fits yestersay. Particularly the victorian ghost hunter. https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2025/05/matua-kahurangi-nz-heralds-utterly.html?m=1
  
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  May 26, 2025 4:27pm
cmm

Articles like these are crap and really don’t help fix anything.

NZ has the third highest opiod use during pregnancy in the OECD. This is generally considered less than good for the baby.

“They can increase the risk of congenital malformations, pre-term birth, low birth weight, and withdrawal symptoms in the baby after delivery” So any caring mother would run a mile.

Use is more frequent ” among women with lower income or higher body mass index.”. So what’s that code for? Obese women who care less about their babies. They are the same people who are more likely to drink and smoke during pregnancy and have unplanned pregnancies. ie. those that just don’t care.

The excuse mill kicks out: “This general trend may reflect … and growing recognition of the historic undertreatment of pregnant people,”

I’ll put aside the inconsistency between women and pregnant people, but how the hell is “historic undertreatment” relevant? Your grand mother and mother had undertreatment so we much compensate and over treat you. Here’s one tablet for you and another for your granny.

This is clearly just bullshit to obfuscate the causes and responsibility.

What happened to last 10 generations of mothers, or even last year are irrelevant. Colonialism is irrelevant. All that matters is what can be controlled here and now: whether or not you take opiods or don’t.

Sure, obese women/pregnant people are more likely to get backpain etc but suck it up. Or better yet, get into better shape and quit the drinking and smoking BEFORE you get knocked up.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360701666/new-zealand-ranks-third-opioid-use-pregnancy-global-study-finds
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May 26, 2025 1:13pm
Taieri

obese women/pregnant people
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Pregnant people?
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May 26, 2025 1:45pm
- cmm
  
  That’s the least important part of the article.
  
  But, yes, eye rolling…
  
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  May 26, 2025 2:47pm
- Paulus
  
  Only difference is that in a very short time Obesity is becoming the biggest killer and health problem in New Zealand.
  
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  May 26, 2025 3:48pm
Ghost

Interesting. Just got polled, one of the questions was if the punishment for the Māori party was too harsh, too lenient or about right.
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May 26, 2025 2:35pm
- mandk
  
  Did you tell the pollster that there hasn’t been a punishment yet and that, if there is one, the length of any suspension is yet to be determined?
  
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  May 26, 2025 2:50pm
cmm

There is talk about people earning over $180k not getting the Kiwisaver tax credit. I take it this is the $521.43 “top up”.

This is just pure envy politics. About 3.4% of workers (or
about 100,000 people) earn over $180k. They are paying over $50k a year in income tax, so the $500 Kiwisaver is just 1% of that.

Most of those people are likely putting away quite a bit into retirement savings, so the $500 is inconsequential. But it feels mean spirited and petty and more clawing in our pockets.

The government needs to take its hands off the geese’s throats. The geese are pissed off and taking their golden eggs elsewhere. We’re losing 120 people a day (over 40,000 a year) mainly skilled people who actually make NZ function and pay all the taxes others depend upon.

Skilled people have choices. They will go where they feel appreciated. If they don’t feel like there is a good future for them or they feel gouged then they will go away – then everyone is stuffed.

Unfiortunately National is chasing popularity and votes. There will always be more takers than givers, so this short term thinking will pay off in the timescales that National cares about (the next couple of elections).

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/what-budget-2025-means-for-your-back-pocket-the-prosperity-project/YGDLVF6LBJBSZAJM37AKLKMAIQ/
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May 26, 2025 2:46pm
- Mike
  
  The KiwiSaver government contribution is being halved. I shouldn’t think many people earning $180,000 need a $250 incentive to contribute to the scheme.
  
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  May 26, 2025 3:46pm
  - cmm
    
    I shouldn’t think ANYONE needs any incentive to put money in the scheme and I think the whole incentive (if you really want to call it that) should just be dne away with across the board.
    
    Why should people get a $500 prize to take care of their future selves? What next? $5 voucher every time you brush your teeth?
    
    I doubt very much that the hand out (let’s call it what it is) actually changes behaviour in any material way. But people like hand outs – so hand them not.
    
    People putting in only $1000 a year are not really doing much anyway. Taking away $500 or $250 a year is not going to move the needle on savings.
    
    But taking away $500 or $250 from people who are paying $50k a year in tax is grubby. Do enough of this and people get annoyed and join the 120 people that got on a plane that morning.
    
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    May 26, 2025 4:19pm
    - greybeard
      
      Oh rubbish. Nobody is going to uproot themselves and their families just because they miss out on an annual $520 handout.
      
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      May 26, 2025 7:07pm
      - MCōs
        
        It’s not $520 it’s $520 per annum plus interest isn’t it?
        Over forty years that’s a lot of money
        
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        May 26, 2025 9:20pm
Pope Punctilious II

Ministry of Health is ditching X for Bluesky: https://x.com/minhealthnz/status/1926761917147713741

So it looks like they prefer to make their announcements to a woke echo-chamber.
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May 26, 2025 4:04pm
Ghost

If true, this is concerning

U.S. energy officials are reassessing the risk posed by Chinese-made devices that play a critical role in renewable energy infrastructure after unexplained communication equipment was found inside some of them, two people familiar with the matter said.

Power inverters, which are predominantly produced in China, are used throughout the world to connect solar panels and wind turbines to electricity grids. They are also found in batteries, heat pumps and electric vehicle chargers.

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