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NothingLeft

Excellent exploration of the dangers of AI by Chris Williamson interviewing foundational AI danger guru Eliezer Yudkowsky. A really good primer for those who are dismissive or otherwise haven’t thought too deeply about it.
https://youtu.be/nRvAt4H7d7E
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October 26, 2025 8:17am
DimChappie

TV1 is screening Crocodile Dundee Encore Cut tonight at 730pm. A lot of work has gone into improvement, but there has been some censorship too. The scene where Mick meets a crossdresser in a New York bar has been cut out.

https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/1ij57yb/crocodile_dundee_4k_new_encore_cut_removes/

This is the scene from the original:

https://www.tiktok.com/@cheeky.laughs/video/7239375776297012506
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October 26, 2025 8:28am
- Inandout
  
  DC, why watch a censored version when the original is available online?
  
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  October 26, 2025 9:57am
- Boy Geoff
  
  Yeah, Croc Dundee provides a philosophical overview of Aboriginal perspectives on land in the movie too.
  
  Interesting that Paul Hogan appears to have an extensive real estate portfolio himself though…
  
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  October 26, 2025 10:06am
  - Grumpy Silver Top
    
    What has his real estate portfolio got to do with it?
    
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    October 26, 2025 11:22am
  - DimChappie
    
    I want to see the higher resolution (4k). The scenery has also been highlighted in tonight’s (censored) version.
    I’m very interested in the visual improvements.
    
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    October 26, 2025 12:11pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

Ya gotta love a politician’s ego! Kamala does not rule out another run for the White House.

No word from the Democrats on their thoughts.

http://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2n7k2veywo
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October 26, 2025 8:29am
- MCōs
  
  I believe Trump is trying to figure out how he can too
  
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  October 26, 2025 10:21am
  - Ghost
    
    I actually think what is going to happen is that the democrats will stand a woman next time, it won’t be Kamala or Obama. Trump will die from ill health or be assassinated. But because trump know he has one term and is going all in, she will win as the public turn against trump, and what Vance will do when he takes over
    
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    October 26, 2025 10:29am
    - David George
      
      “Ghost”: “what Vance will do when he takes over”
      Which is?
      
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      October 26, 2025 10:46am
      - MCōs
        
        Nobody knows what Trump will do next week, let alone Vance next term
        
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        October 26, 2025 10:51am
      - Philview
        
        In the debates last time I thought Vance was better than Trump, Harris and Walz. He is an intelligent man.
        
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        October 26, 2025 11:02am
      - Don Beckett
        
        I think, if you understand Trump, he is more predictable than many think.
        
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        October 26, 2025 11:05am
      - Ghost
        
        You might want to go learn about where Vance stands on different issues before he joined trump
        
        I agree trump is very predictable. But he knows this is it, he has one chance to save the USA., fix what he wants to do, and is going all in. he still needs to listen to the voter base, and not the yes man fluffers who refuse to hold him to account
        
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        October 26, 2025 11:32am
      - MCōs
        
        Save America from what? maga?
        Here’s forever inventing new crises out of molehills that he says only he can fix
        Canada would be a good example. What the fuck was the problem there?
        
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        October 26, 2025 1:10pm
    - David Garrett
      
      Ghost: I also dont think Trump will get to complete his term. He is a hugely polarizing figure – even among those of us on the right – witness the division about him here.
      
      There is an old truism: an assassin who is prepared to die will always succeed. Among the tens of thousands of people in those “No Kings” demos a week ago will be dozens who are prepared to die to take him out
      
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      October 26, 2025 12:20pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        And what will be achieved if Donald Trump is assassinated?
        
        1. Donald will join Abe Lincoln and JFK as a mythical saint… (he won’t be forgotten like Garfield, or McKinley)
        
        2. USA will descend into an even more repressive divided nation.
        
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        October 26, 2025 12:30pm
      - MCōs
        
        He won’t be assassinated. More likely to have some sort of medical emergency, I’d have thought
        What happened if he has a debilitating stroke or whatever, but he has enough marbles to refuse to step down?
        He seems to lead a less than ideal lifestyle
        
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        October 26, 2025 12:52pm
      - David Garrett
        
        Maggy: what would happen? Your guess is as good as mine…but I agree option 1 is the more likely of the two you suggest
        
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        October 26, 2025 1:10pm
      - NothingLeft
        
        Seems Trump he is relatively active playing golf etc. is a life long teetotaler, but doesn’t sleep enough, I dout thing he has anything more than normal health issues for an 80yr old. (But there is no way anyone over 70 should be a surgeon, a pilot, a federal level politician or a president).
        
        I’d say 30% chance of Trump assassination. Possibly another attempt in the planning foiled the other day (found a hunting hide in a potential sniping spot)
        
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        October 26, 2025 1:28pm
      - Ghost
        
        It will go beyond just Americans. There will be countries that will be interested in taking him out. Iran, china, Russia, South American countries and their drug lords, hamas.
        
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        October 26, 2025 1:58pm
      - Tom Hunter
        
        “… in those “No Kings” demos a week ago will be dozens who are prepared to die to take him out:”
        
        What, they’re going to whack him with their Zimmer frames? 🙂
        
        Sure, some have been sent insane but it’s more sad than dangerous.
        
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        October 26, 2025 2:17pm
      - AitchW
        
        DG Obama would have had a lot more motivated and ideologically inspired zealots who would have killed him than Trump does.
        Obama survived unscathed, and we will likely never know how many attempts on his life were thwarted by the Secret Service.
        There are so many layers of security round the US president I really can’t see some delusional lefty being successful in an assassination attempt.
        Of course a state sanctioned operation arranged by some mad Muslim regime is a different story.
        
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        October 26, 2025 3:42pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        David, KB is far far away from American voters. Whatever we think…. it is filtered by our reliance on Media.
        
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        October 26, 2025 5:25pm
      - virtualmark
        
        If Trump were to be assassinated (and I think the probability of that is low) then I very much doubt it will be by the hand of a “No Kings” demonstrator. The demographics of those demonstrations were very middle-class white people. There was no material violence at those demonstrations.
        
        America has plenty of “lone wolf” man-with-a-gun crazies. But I doubt those crazies are the types to also appear at a non-violent mass demonstration.
        
        (btw, I do think the probability of Trump having to stand down because of health issues is quite high)
        
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        October 26, 2025 6:13pm
- virtualmark
  
  To me, the lesson of the 2016 Presidential election is that a flawed white woman candidate couldn’t beat a weak white man candidate.
  
  The lesson of the 2020 Presidential election is that a vanilla white man candidate could beat a weak white man candidate.
  
  The lesson of the 2024 Presidential election is that a black woman candidate couldn’t beat a weak white man candidate.
  
  US voters, in aggregate, do not seem prepared to turn out and vote for women candidates at this point in history. Slipping a top-tier black man candidate past the goalie in 2012 seems to have fooled people into thinking the US electorate is more progressive than it actually is.
  
  But the Democratic Party appears to be run like it’s a University faculty staff room, so I don’t expect that any of those lessons have been learned or will be heeded.
  
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  October 26, 2025 2:24pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    Sure, it’s all about identity to completely misogynistic and racist USAins. As evidenced by the fact they elected a black man in 2008 and again 2012.
    
    The problem lies not in the hearts of the public, but in that fact that both Hillary and Kamala were awful people.
    
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    October 26, 2025 4:34pm
    - virtualmark
      
      Yes, America elected a black President in 2008 and 2012. And half of America lost their shit about that and saw Trump, the most publicly anti-Obama figure, as their big hope. So that group of people got out and voted in 2016 in greater numbers than they had in the past.
      
      Hilary was a smart and capable technocrat, but had no charisma (unlike her husband). But Trump is equally flawed (has charisma, but dumb as a rock, and lacks the temperament and ethics for the role).
      
      Kamala is also a smart technocrat and has a little more charisma than Hilary, although nothing like Bill Clinton or Obama levels. But, my take, being a black woman is too big of an electoral handicap in the United States. So she just didn’t get the turnout and she lost. And her coat-tails weren’t big enough to help in the House and the Senate.
      
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      October 26, 2025 9:04pm
  - wsk12345
    
    You are joking? The women candidates have been appalling – it because they are women but because they are shitty candidates.
    
    And as for holding Obama up as some kind of King, the only reason you think th at is bc true media was 💯 behind him.
    
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    October 26, 2025 5:40pm
    - virtualmark
      
      I think Obama was a so-so President. Smart, but not decisive enough (a similar theme to Carter).
      
      He is hugely smart (editor then president of the Harvard Law Review, summa cum laude Harvard Law) – I’ll wager smarter than any current NZ politician.
      
      And he had a lot of charisma. He’s a great speaker (so was George W btw). He has an easy nature. He’s got rizz.
      
      But ultimately he seemed to lack the ruthless decisiveness that a national leader needs to have. See Syria redlines and Crimea as examples.
      
      John Key probably nearly as smart and charismatic (in a hokey Kiwi way), but way more ruthlessly decisive.
      
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      October 26, 2025 9:17pm
  - Skippytony
    
    Sorry, that frickin ridiculous. Harris was Hilary toxic. Sleepy Joe magically pulled more voters (by a country mile) than Obamas best result. Go figure….
    
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    October 26, 2025 5:47pm
    - virtualmark
      
      Here’s the unified theory of Presidential elections … the American people elect a President who shows the opposite of the weakness of the current President.
      
      Obama’s perceived weakness is he was black. So they elect Trump, the anti-Obama.
      
      Trump’s perceived weakness is he is chaotic. So they elect Sleepy Joe, the anti-Trump.
      
      Sleepy Joe was too sleepy. So they elect chaos again, the anti-Biden.
      
      My take on Hilary is that America was/is tired of family dynasties. They’d had two Bush’s and the prospect of two Clinton’s was too much. Hilary is smart, capable and ruthless – pretty good qualities for a President. But she has no charisma. Smart ruthless and charismatic can work. Smart ruthless and uncharismatic doesn’t.
      
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      October 26, 2025 9:11pm
      - virtualmark
        
        “Smart ruthless and uncharismatic doesn’t [work]”
        
        Except in New Zealand. See Helen Clark. New Zealand often exhibits a weird glass-half-full Presbyterian sternness vibe. A “you’ll take your medicine and be happy about it” kind of thing. Hence Clark, and Muldoon to some extent too.
        
        America tends to have a more optimistic vibe.
        
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        October 26, 2025 9:34pm
  - virtualmark
    
    I’m assuming that the downtickers believe the US electorate *is* prepared to vote for a so-so black woman to be President.
    
    Bold.
    
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    October 26, 2025 6:06pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

The UK has the same brown-people-get-better-access-to-stuff-than-white-people rules as we do.

Those eligible to receive the Mounjaro weight loss drug must have a BMI of 40 (37.5 if of a minority ethnic background).

http://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czdr3zl98e4o
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October 26, 2025 8:36am
- cmm
  
  When it is finally discovered that the drugs cause kidney damage or some such, then no doubt there will be much squealing – and compensation – because the white people were exploiting the brown people as guinea pigs.
  
  Something, something, genocide, something.
  
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  October 26, 2025 10:13am
  - Ghost
    
    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/weight-loss-jabs-like-mounjaro-linked-to-silent-cancer-that-is-surging-in-under-50s-warn-experts/ar-AA1KXQ7s
    
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    October 26, 2025 10:17am
  - JackRabbit
    
    Ozempic was only recently heralded as a diabetes and weight loss golden bullet. I told anyone thinking it would cure them to very very cautious.
    
    Now we have this from Ozempic’s own website:
    
    “Ozempic® may cause serious side effects, including: Possible thyroid tumors, including cancer. Tell your health care provider if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, hoarseness, trouble swallowing, or shortness of breath. These may be symptoms of thyroid cancer. In studies with rodents, Ozempic® and medicines that work like Ozempic® caused thyroid tumors, including thyroid cancer. It is not known if Ozempic® will cause thyroid tumors or a type of thyroid cancer called medullary thyroid carcinoma (MTC) in people”
    
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    October 26, 2025 10:48am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Those damn rodents!
      
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      October 26, 2025 2:28pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      The best cure for obesity – yes, you guessed it.
      DON’T EAT & DRINK SO MUCH.
      Curb your appetite – there are supplements available to help if you haven’t got the mental strength to exercise some self restraint.
      
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      October 26, 2025 2:53pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        AND eat the right stuff not ultra processed food!!!
        ie Cereals, flavoured yoghurts, bread etc etc and of course the main poison SUGAR.
        
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        October 26, 2025 5:28pm
- wsk12345
  
  Which is ironic given that Maori and PI are generally fatter build thsn the population as a whole. So really they should get it at 42.5 surely?
  
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  October 26, 2025 5:41pm
rouppe

There a new Irish President. While largely ceremonial, the role is still very public.

Because of this, Connolly’s divisive rhetoric on Nato and Europe, as well as her vocal belief in safeguarding Irish neutrality from the Western “military industrial complex”, has sparked fears she will alienate European allies.

That’s going to make EU relations awkward.
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October 26, 2025 8:46am
- kowtow
  
  Should have stuck with the Crown , like the sensible majority up North.
  
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  October 26, 2025 12:34pm
- MCōs
  
  You forgot to mention she’s very left wing, same as the last bloke and the sky didn’t fall down
  
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  October 26, 2025 12:47pm
- mogg
  
  She has said that “Israel is like a terror state”, and “Hamas is part of a civilised country”.
  She wears the same blinkers as Jeremy Corbyn.
  
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  October 26, 2025 12:56pm
  - Notsofast
    
    1984 as instruction manual. The woman is insane, but Helen Clark will be drooling. The Irish should stick to changing light bulbs.
    
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    October 26, 2025 2:34pm
  - AitchW
    
    Corbyn is a truly nasty little lefty.
    Deeply anti Israel, rabidly pro Hamas/Palestine.
    He would as disastrous for the UK as a Labour/Maori/Green government here.
    
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    October 26, 2025 3:10pm
- kowtow
  
  On a serious note it looks like she alienated most of the electorate , who couldn’t be arsed to vote .
  
  Almost record low turnout.
  
  Record number of spoilt votes.
  
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  October 26, 2025 3:54pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

Apparently, polygamy can be a good thing after all.

It would be interesting to know how much polygamy there is in NZ. We do import people from parts of the world where polygamy is not uncommon. Do we turn away refugee families in such circumstances? After all, to do so would be to impose Western norms, and whanau can take many forms, doncha know.

http://www.1news.co.nz/2025/10/26/new-research-says-polygyny-one-husband-multiple-wives-has-plus-sides/
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October 26, 2025 9:09am
- cmm
  
  Of course polygamy has some plus sides in certain circumstances or it would not exist.
  
  Polygamy is the norm in Africa – which makes a lot of sense since males typically have shorter and more brutal lives – leaving a surplus of women. If society is to flourish then those women need to make babies and need to be in a household – hence polygamy.
  
  But there is also a seedy side to it too. Much more homosexuality and prostitution for the womenless men wanting to get their action. This is what has really helped to spread AIDS.
  
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  October 26, 2025 10:18am
- MCōs
  
  My wife’s father had two wives at the same time and twenty kids.
  He never had a job.
  My wife’s mother was expected to provide for her twelve children
  
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  October 26, 2025 10:31am
  - kowtow
    
    ‘He never had a job.’
    
    How could he , sounds like he was on the job all the time.
    
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    October 26, 2025 1:11pm
- David George
  
  Mohammed goes to the doctor.
  M: Doctor I hope you can help; I find I’m no longer attracted to my wife since she’s going through the change.
  D: You mean menopause?
  M: No puberty.
  
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  October 26, 2025 10:53am
- artemisia
  
  Polygamy can certainly be a good thing for the dad with one or more ‘separated’ families, especially if no need to name the father/s to be on welfare without the benefit reduction previously in place.
  
  Time to reconsider that policy.
  
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  October 26, 2025 10:53am
  - PurplePen
    
    Does it work the other way. A woman with many husbands?
    
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    October 26, 2025 1:11pm
    - Flossie
      
      I doubt you’d find too many women keen for two husbands!!
      
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      October 26, 2025 2:13pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Or two mothers in law
        
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        October 26, 2025 2:29pm
- JackRabbit
  
  As an aside, there are people who practice polygamy, except their respective partners / wives / husbands don’t know.
  
  I personally know of several situations where a husband had two wives / partners where each partner thought they were in a genuine monogamous relationship.
  
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  October 26, 2025 10:54am
- Taieri
  
  We do import people from parts of the world where polygamy is not uncommon
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  No need to import “people from parts of the world where…”. Plenty of Kiwis live in informal polygamous relationships.
  
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  October 26, 2025 11:22am
- rjay
  
  Polygamy is a nonsense term these days where so few get married anyway. What’s to stop anyone from shacking up with a number of the opposite sex?
  
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  October 26, 2025 1:21pm
- NothingLeft
  
  Historically polygamous societies don’t do as well as monogamous economically. Strong suggestion that Europe’s generally enforced monogamy for ~1000 years – and basically everyone getting married etc, with less ‘left over’ men is what created the conditions that led to Europe’s ascendency and hegemony over the world – reduced conflict, increased trust, and meant more men led productive contributing lives enslaved to the responsibilities of providing for their families.
  
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  October 26, 2025 1:33pm
- Ra Henare
  
  Also include the married guys who have a bit on the side!!! huge numbers
  
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  October 26, 2025 5:29pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

So, the Great Strike is over. Was anything resolved?

Answers on a postcard.
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October 26, 2025 9:10am
- Prince
  
  Yes, the old media proclaimed it a huge success.
  
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  October 26, 2025 12:49pm
- mandk
  
  The sun came up, the private sector workers went to the office/shop/factory as normal to generate the taxes to pay the public sector workers their salaries, and the sun went down again.
  
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  October 26, 2025 1:04pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I somehow think the folks down south called out in all weathers and at any time of the day/night to fix downed power-lines, clear roads of fallen trees, rescue stock from swollen creeks, etc are going to have much sympathy for “overworked” school teachers.
  
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  October 26, 2025 1:14pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Excellent point, Maggy. It would be great to see this mentioned in the MSM, for the Left to chew on.
    
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    October 26, 2025 2:31pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      woops…
      I meant to write aren’t going to have much sympathy… but you got my meaning ok.
      
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      October 26, 2025 5:15pm
  - Christopher Thomson
    
    Somewhat like the comment the other day that most New Zealanders had great respect for striking doctors, nurses, and teachers.
    
    I think not.
    
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    October 26, 2025 3:49pm
pdm

Late starters today so let me get the ball rolling.

While a lot of New Zealand has been and maybe will be tomorrow, hammered by weather events Hawkes Bay needs a week of good spring rain.
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October 26, 2025 9:20am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  At least the Southern dams will be full
  
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  October 26, 2025 9:24am
  - Jack5
    
    Don’t forget South Island mountain snow’s part in NZ electricity supply.
    
    In spring and summer, snow-melt contributes 20 to 70 per cent of water flowing into southern lakes, says the Electricity Authority.
    
    Meridian reports that in the Waitaki catchment (one of three for South Island hydro lakes), snow storage is just above average for this time of year.
    
    https://www.meridianenergy.co.nz/power-stations/snow-storage
    
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    October 26, 2025 11:06am
  - OlderChas
    
    Apparently they are spilling already. So – when do electricity prices come down?
    
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    October 26, 2025 12:22pm
    - kowtow
      
      ‘when do electricity prices come down?’
      
      bwa hahahahaa.
      
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      October 26, 2025 1:13pm
    - Pope Punctilious II
      
      Prices will come down when the government takes firm action to better regulate the “genitalers”.
      
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      October 26, 2025 1:43pm
      - Albie
        
        They could also quietly drop the ETS charges which add about $90.00 per household per annum and achieve sweet FA in changing the climate!
        
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        October 26, 2025 3:07pm
      - kowtow
        
        Well they’ve got us by the balls and as long as the Loons stay committed to the new renewables ( wind/sun) we’re going to keep paying bigly .
        
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        October 26, 2025 3:10pm
      - peterwn
        
        How much do you think prices will come down assuming the four gentailers stopped making any profit? Nat as much as you think, I bet.
        
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        October 26, 2025 7:17pm
    - AitchW
      
      Karapiro has been spilling flat out for weeks.
      
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      October 26, 2025 3:13pm
    - wsk12345
      
      Well they won’t as you’re now paying for wind and solar. Something has to spill at night when demand is low.
      
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      October 26, 2025 5:46pm
- Dougal10
  
  First calm day here for a month and funny cloud formations about 80km away out at sea beyond the waitaki river mouth so something brewing.
  
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  October 26, 2025 9:31am
  - AitchW
    
    Relax, it’s just the Illuminati conducting their geo engineering and HAARP exercises to appease their lizard people masters.
    Someone will along shortly to enlighten you.
    
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    October 26, 2025 9:42am
    - Christopher Thomson
      
      Or look up and spot the chemtrails altering your perception of reality.
      
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      October 26, 2025 3:51pm
Nikola Donatello

I read this so you don’t need to.

An opinion piece at The Standard on the BSA issue and Sean Plunket.

The writer accuses Sean of seeking to avoid “repercussions for his words”.

https://thestandard.nz/plunket-declares-war-on-the-bsa/

Such a revealing insight into the mindset of tyrannical socialists in New Zealand. They celebrate the State imposing “repercussions” on those whose opinion they disagree with.

The full quote from this charming person.

“2020 he was fined for amplifying negative stereotypes about Maori. He then left talkback radio station MagicTalk after a threatened advertiser boycott and set up the Platform.

New gig, same sort of right wing ranting but Plunket believes that the slight change in delivery methods means that he should be immune from repercussions for his words.”
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October 26, 2025 10:09am
- R
  
  Freedom of speech and thought is one of the foundations of DEMOCRACY. We stiffle this freedom at our peril; as should be very obvious by the activity of the MARXIST activist movement in NZ
  
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  October 26, 2025 10:28am
- Philview
  
  Sean’s style is abrasive but this means we get to the truth of the matter very quickly. For example that recent story about Trump supporters in the class room, we found out because of Sean that it couldn’t be substantiated with any evidence.
  
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  October 26, 2025 11:26am
- rouppe
  
  Of course if anyone from the Standard received any repercussions from their words, that would be evidence of far right something or other
  
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  October 26, 2025 4:55pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

The Post (Sat, front page) opines that the four people wrongly convicted of murdering Deane Fuller-Sandys could be in line for millions of dollars to compensate for many years spent in jail.

While their convictions have been quashed, it’s clear from the evidence that at least some of them were drug dealers, while the body of one later turned up buried in sand dunes. Teina Pora they are not.

I trust that these factors will be taken into account when the level of compensation to be paid by the rest of us is set.
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October 26, 2025 10:31am
NeverMindTheBollocks

A coy article, the gist of which is that Auckland’s East Coast beaches are being stripped of all sub protected aquatic life (starfish, anemones) by … well, someone. It’s not illegal as regular Kiwis wouldn’t see this stuff as palatable eating.

“Some groups of people need reeducating … the face of NZ’s cultural makeup is changing … new arrivals to the country …”

Why doesn’t Stuff just come out and say which cultural groups are raping the foreshore?

Meanwhile, Helen Clark has not been approached for comment about this aspect of the multicultural dividend.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360859751/nah-not-our-place-bay-watch-kiwi-style-residents-rally-against-pools-being-stripped-sea-life
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October 26, 2025 10:58am
- greybeard
  
  My late bro-in-law & sister lived in Deborah Bay, Port Chalmers, for years. He was an ex-fisherman. He would get apoplectic when relating tales of Asian families from Dunedin coming down the harbour bays stripping everything they could at low tide. Not a new problem.
  
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  October 26, 2025 2:07pm
- [email protected]
  
  Asians are not the only people stripping all aquatic life. The wife and I were getting ready to do a scuba dive off the coast South of Tutukaka. A group of “non Asians” were towing two large nets supported by floats. They were free diving and everything they saw got tossed into the net.
  
  I saw undersized crayfish, tiny scallops, etc. go into that floating net. Really sad.
  
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  October 26, 2025 6:44pm
MCōs

The East/West Link road linking SH20 & SH1 from Onehunga to Penrose was on the last National Government’ agenda and $50mil was spent before it was canned by Labour
Now it’s back.
This time instead of a new road along the seashore it will make use of Neilson Road with a number of new traffic signals, but it’s still budgeted for $4bil and that’s just today’s numbers
https://www.nzta.govt.nz/assets/projects/east-west-link/east-west-investment-case-summary.pdf
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October 26, 2025 11:57am
- NothingLeft
  
  AI+Robots are improving so fast that I expect urban road tunnelling is going to become cheap soon
  
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  October 26, 2025 1:35pm
Prince

Could Alana King be selected for the Aussie Ashes team ?
Why not ? Warne wreaked havoc against the Poms, and King looks just as good.
Surely, in 2025, it is sexist not to choose the best XI, be they men or women.
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October 26, 2025 12:45pm
- Pope Punctilious II
  
  I’m guessing she bowls 15 ks slower than Warne, and doesn’t get the same revs on the ball. So probly not. And in any case, Nathan Lyon (boring as he is) has a good recovery against the Poms in Oz.
  
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  October 26, 2025 1:47pm
  - Pope Punctilious II
    
    Good record!
    
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    October 26, 2025 2:26pm
- AitchW
  
  Is it not the Australian Men’s cricket team?
  Or will she suddenly identify as an Aussie bloke?
  
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  October 26, 2025 3:16pm
- Christopher Thomson
  
  Does she look good against other women or has she been tried against top tier mens teams?
  
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  October 26, 2025 3:54pm
Paulus

Whilst waiting in the queue at my Dairy this morning I saw the headline page of the Sunday Star Times.
There was one of the headline pages from Andrea Vance from the front page sub heading
“The country’s moved from Bolger’s decent society” to dog eat dog”.
Coming from her, I thought the question – was she here in New Zealand at the time, or still in the exemplory hands of the scandelous News of The World before it destroyed itself with corruption, lies and false innuedos.
Perhaps it would be incongruous to suggest that it is people like her, since being here, who have done the best they can to destroy what even Bolger would have understood, despite my feelings for what Bolger and Richardson did, but that is not the purpose of my comments here.
Simply we cannot grow up with Vance’s to me false innuedos and half truths.
So I would never buy any New Zealand Sunday Paper now anyway.
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October 26, 2025 12:59pm
- kowtow
  
  Bolger and Co are responsible for the deep divisions , at least in some part , now beginning to appear so jarringly in our once relatively happy and united nation.
  
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  October 26, 2025 1:16pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  was she here in New Zealand at the time,
  
  She was in the Glasgow office of “The News of the World” in 2011 and didn’t leave that paper until 2012.
  
  So definitely NOT in NZ during Bolger’s reign 1990-1997.
  
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  October 26, 2025 1:25pm
  - David Garrett
    
    New Zealand would be much better off without “journalists” like Andrea Vance
    
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    October 26, 2025 2:01pm
- Pope Punctilious II
  
  Ah yes, Jim Bolger. The man who put cash registers in hospitals, and handed Waikato University to Tainui.
  
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  October 26, 2025 1:48pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    “Handed Waikato University to Tainui”
    
    Some would call that prescient.
    
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    October 26, 2025 2:35pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    and that folks is how misinformation is generated.
    Bolger did not hand back Waikato University to Tainui.
    
    A fact is.
    the Crown signed a settlement with Waikato-Tainui in 1995, part of which vested the land on which the Hamilton campus stands in the title of the first Maaori King, Pootatau Te Wherowhero, to ensure it could not be alienated. It is now leased to the University by Tainui Group Holdings.
    
    https://www.tgh.co.nz/what-we-do/real-estate-assets/
    
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    October 26, 2025 5:40pm
    - Pope Punctilious II
      
      Yes, Tainui is now Waikato Uni’s landlord, enabling the iwi to exert great influence over the university. It also makes it hard for Waikato to compete with the other universities, which only have to pay rates.
      
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      October 26, 2025 9:56pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        So you didn’t click on the link which shows all the properties???
        
        If you think Iwi can exert influence over Waikato Uni as a landlord, then I respectfully suggest you haven’t got a clue about commercial landlords and their ability to influence how the tenants do their business.
        Tainui hold leases on Police Stations and Court Houses amongst numerous others, Including Wintec Do you think they can influence the Justice system?
        
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        October 27, 2025 5:58am
      - Pope Punctilious II
        
        Responding to RH: If the police or a business at The Base don’t like the deal they’re getting from their landlord, they can easily move to another premises. The university can’t very well do that, as they have so much invested in infrastructure on campus. So their landlord has them over a barrel. And as I said, having to pay rent makes it hard to compete with other universities that only have to pay rates. A short-sighted decision by Bolger.
        
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        October 27, 2025 6:00pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360866482/trumps-gilded-ballroom-will-dwarf-actual-white-house

Something you would expect from Ancient Roman Emperors, or Russian Czars, or the Ancient Egyptians !
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October 26, 2025 3:58pm
- Don Beckett
  
  You should have added……”and Trump.” 🙂
  
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