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Cassandra

I don’t understand why the Greens and the left (but I’m repeating myself) are so active regarding Israel yet silent about Tanzania, Sudan and Ukraine. And Mali, Nigeria, Togo and many others. Of course Israelis are Jews. Is that the sole reason?

Sudan is a case in point, although what’s going on elsewhere is even worse, just not quite as many victims – yet. The Greens remain focussed on DEI hating Hamas who would kill every Green MP if they lived in Gaza. Chip in for some air fares? //
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November 3, 2025 8:01am
- RichardF
  
  If Trump orders military action in Nigeria, I bet the Greens will start waving Nigerian flags. Their anti Israel stance is basically anti USA.
  
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  November 3, 2025 8:14am
- kowtow
  
  There’s a photo doing the rounds of the new Dunedin City councillors . Swearing in. Three are wearing terror towels.
  
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  November 3, 2025 8:17am
  - Clyde
    
    These particular Councillors were all voted in by the sad and pathetic left leaning mob that is Dunedin. The once outstanding University of Otago is now riddled with ex Liemore and Green Pardy outcasts and the City itself cannot help itself by getting rid of the retards that continually suck at the public teat.
    
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    November 3, 2025 9:57am
    - Grizz
      
      How much of the student population in Dunedin actually vote in local body politics.
      I was an Otago uni student in the 1990s. I cannot ever recall voting in local government elections in the time I was there, even though I had the opportunity to do so. I cannot remember any of my student colleagues ever talking about local government elections either. Even student association elections struggled to get 10% of the student population to vote. When we could vote to abolish student unions, only 9% of the student body voted. 6% voted to keep, 3% voted to abolish. I would have said the majority of counsellors in Dunedin are the product of non-uni student voters in the city at large.
      
      Has the attitude of university students at Otago changed and now more take an interest in local government politics than 25 to 30 years ago?
      
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      November 3, 2025 4:27pm
  - Philview
    
    I bet they didn’t promote themselves that way. On my local election last time a young man promoted himself in a certain way and once in council seat he started going on about being non binary and a win for DEI. He didn’t mention that stuff at all in his Bio.
    
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    November 3, 2025 10:36am
    - Gravelroad
      
      In the recent Council election here there was a candidate who I know is a dedicated and senior member of the Green Party.
      I saw no mention of this in any of the printed information the person provided for election purposes – although might have mentioned it at a “meet the candidates” evening – don’t know.
      I was mildly surprised that this person was not elected.
      I can only imagine that the candidate (in a smallish town electorate) took a punt and decided against campaigning on a political platform.
      I thought at the time they would have been better to have been upfront about their affiliation and ambitions.
      Didn’t get elected either way.
      
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      November 3, 2025 12:15pm
- Nikola Donatello
  
  “Of course Israelis are Jews. Is that the sole reason?”
  
  A material reason. Perhaps not the sole reason.
  
  The conflict in the Middle East has received prominent media coverage forever. The PLO blowing up planes and killing Olympic athletes made for great TV news ratings.
  
  Conversely, Catholics being massacred in remote parts of Nigeria by Islamic death squads on a weekly basis, not so much.
  
  The reasons are much more complex. But I don’t have time to attempt an essay, so that is my best shot. 🙂
  
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  November 3, 2025 8:20am
- imalwaysright
  
  They are also silent about the torture and murder of New Zealand infants.
  
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  November 3, 2025 8:21am
  - Ra Henare
    
    what torture and murders are you referring to?
    NZ? or elsewhere?
    
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    November 3, 2025 4:31pm
    - hookerphil
      
      Perhaps could have been some of these 57.
      
      “Statistics since 2017: According to internal documents leaked in late 2023, at least 57 children (aged 17 or younger) had been killed since the child protection agency Oranga Tamariki was created in April 2017. Twenty-four of these were aged 12 months or younger.”
      
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      November 3, 2025 8:34pm
- cmm
  
  Greens and the left are anti-Western nihilists.
  Israel is seen as a Western proxy.
  Therefore they have an anti-Israeli stance.
  QED
  
  Besides, expecting civilised behaviour in Sudan, Congo, Mozambique, etc etc would be raaaacissst!
  
  Of course you could say pretty much the same about the way indentured workers/women/… are treated in Africa, UAE, Asia and such. Unless there is some Western element that can be attacked (eg. Western mining companies) then crickets
  
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  November 3, 2025 8:22am
- peterwn
  
  Jews have always been under attack – examples being the hatred of Shylock, Hitler exterminating Jewish people and various political groups (eg Green Party) protesting (or worse) against Jews.
  
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  November 3, 2025 8:30am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Does anyone know why Jews are so persecuted?
    
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    November 3, 2025 9:10am
    - alloytoo
      
      The conclusion I have drawn is that they work hard and are generally successful.
      
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      November 3, 2025 12:02pm
    - tavita
      
      Being brought up in NZ , I had heard about Jews but had no reason to treat them any differently from anyone else – and no way of knowing who was or wasn’t a Jew anyway. But on my first OE I was in Rotterdam and there were these strangely dressed men walking imperiously down the road. Apparently, they were some strange Jewish sect. Now it struck me, that if you go out of your way to make yourself look different, you will be treated differently. I might say the same for those who tattoo their faces.
      
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      November 3, 2025 12:50pm
    - cmm
      
      It is as old as history to blame bad things on people who look and act differently.
      
      Whether it is an economic collapse, moral decay or drought/locusts it has always been handy to blame a scapegoat – especially those who seem less effected by (insert disaster).
      
      Jews tend to be generally economically robust (a culture that generally appreciates financial prudence) so tend to be able to thrive (or at least survive) when others do not. If things go pear shaped, but the Jews don’t seem to be impacted as badly then it is easy to blame them for rigging the system and causing the disaster.
      
      They are not alone in this. The same applies to whites and Indians in Africa, but clearly Jewish persecution is at an entirely different level.
      
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      November 3, 2025 2:12pm
- MCōs
  
  A small point, but more than a quarter of the population of Israel are not Jews
  
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  November 3, 2025 8:51am
- Fender
  
  From memory they were into Ukraine for a while weren’t they, sure chloe showed her angry face a few times before the jews kicked off
  
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  November 3, 2025 10:48am
- Crafty
  
  It’s simple, the left care more about politics than human lives.
  
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  November 3, 2025 11:09am
  - Crafty
    
    I should add not all the left but the ones politicising this hard
    
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    November 3, 2025 11:28am
- Jake Dee
  
  As I have mentioned before, it’s just not a cogent argument to say “Your stance on ABC is wrong because you haven’t also taken a stance about XYZ” ( here ABC being Israel and XYZ being Nigeria etc.)
  There could be many reasons why they don’t take a stand on XYZ, some good and some bad but that doesn’t mean their stance on ABC is wrong.
  This is all just Argument from Motivation and it’s a fallacy. The truth of an argument is not determined by the psychological motivations of the people who say it.
  
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  November 3, 2025 5:08pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

How many of these Wellingtonians cheerfully voted for CubaDupa, cycleways and saving the Old Town Hall, I wonder.

“… retirees and those over 50 who were thinking about whether their future was in Wellington, given increasing costs.

“It’s stressful – some are wondering if they are going to be able to stay in their homes.” Skews said costs like rates and insurance was something buyers she met were thinking about”

https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/360871580/high-living-costs-make-wellingtonians-think-about-leaving
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November 3, 2025 8:01am
- Nikola Donatello
  
  Yeah I don’t have much sympathy. If they are retired, they are likely sitting on a mortgage free valuable home in Wellington. They can sell it and buy a little cottage in Foxton Beach. Or Bulls.
  
  They are not on my list of priority folk to worry about.
  
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  November 3, 2025 8:25am
  - peterwn
    
    But there is no (or very little) public transport for retirees to use their SuperGoldCard on.
    
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    November 3, 2025 8:34am
  - MCōs
    
    I used to have a mortgage free home in Wellington.
    What encouraged us to move to Auckland was nothing to do with the things you mentioned, but the horrendous weather
    
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    November 3, 2025 8:56am
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      “the horrendous weather”. Yep MCos, there is that! My wife and I moved to Auckland many years ago as her work relocated here. We were going to give it 2 years then go back. But visiting the place a good few times during those 2 years made us realise how bloody windy, cold and wet the place was. We just couldn’t do it! We still go back now and again to rendezvous with old friends, last time was this time last year. The bloody wind and sideways rain that doesn’t just fall on you, it lashes you…. God knows how I did 10 years there!
      
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      November 3, 2025 9:03am
    - Tauhei Notts
      
      My one year in Wellington taught me why the locals are so tolerant of Moslems.
      For 5 days the weather was sunni and the city was the most beautiful in the world. For 360 days the weather was shiite.
      
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      November 3, 2025 9:32am
      - Maggie's ex partner
        
        Even if that’s not original, it’s still very droll
        
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        November 3, 2025 10:42am
  - Sweet Hitchhiker
    
    That’s a bit mean. It’s actually very bad for a lot of people, especially elderly ones, to uproot themselves from a home they’ve lived in for decades.
    If I ever get to that stage, I’ll take in boarders.. 😀
    
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    November 3, 2025 9:20am
  - Christopher Thomson
    
    Why should they?
    
    That’s their home. They put the best years of their lives into making it a home and somewhere they can raise a family.
    
    You want to blather on about community and village to raise a child but first chance you get it’s telling the oldies to fuck off to some place they have never been, don’t want to go to, and know nobody there.
    
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    November 3, 2025 10:12am
    - cmm
      
      What many oldies want is to downsize but stay in the same area. Unfortunately their rates are unlikely to go down much if they do so.
      
      Part of the reason to not want to bugger off to Foxton is to be handy to grandkids etc. Another is wanting to be close to medical care (eg. if you have a serious heart condition you probably want to live within 30 minutes of a major hospital).
      
      There is a practical advantage to downsizing – it frees up large houses for others, but that’s not easy to achieve.
      
      We have hugely underutilised housing in NZ mainly because empty-nesters (especially single empty-nesters) are living in 4 bedroom houses but using only one (and maybe a second as a hobby room).
      
      If I look at the ten closest houses to us:
      * One house has a couple with two student-age kids (both moving out soon).
      * One house has a couple with a single student-age kid (probably living with his parents for the next 5 years).
      * Two are occupied by single women (no kids – one widow, one divorced).
      * Six have just a couple (youngest around 55).
      
      That is at least 35 bedrooms of which 13 are occupied (and around 7 are used as offices and sewing rooms etc). So approximately 50% underutilised.
      
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      November 3, 2025 2:29pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        So what you are saying CMM is remove freedom of choice?
        Let someone else decide where you can and can’t live.
        Sounds rather communistic to me.
        
        Personally, love freedom of speech and freedom of choice.
        A free market society. Not state control
        
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        November 3, 2025 4:37pm
  - leoj
    
    Why should they have to sell?
    The trouble with lefties is that they think they know what everyone else should do.
    Mind your own business.
    
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    November 3, 2025 11:59am
- Prince
  
  There comes a point when rates and insurance, both increasing over 100% in 5 years, eat into your fixed income to the point where you wonder if there aren’t cheaper, warmer, sunnier, safer towns or cities that are easier to navigate and don’t resemble the Gaza Strip. If the family has moved away, why not follow them or move to a more hospitable place.
  
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  November 3, 2025 8:27am
- cmm
  
  When you disconnect the costs from paying for them you will end up with these issues.
  
  Renters are far less likely to realise they pay the rates indirectly through their rent. So they therefore see ratepayer funded stuff as “free”. Who cares if the landlord has to pay?
  
  Likewise, government (or associated) workers love more tax/ratepayer money sloshing around. That’s what feeds them.
  
  Wellington home ownership is low and those that suck on the government (and associated) tit is high. Therefore they are far more likely to vote for spending other people’s money.
  
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  November 3, 2025 8:28am
Scott

Trump ratchets up the pressure on Nigeria to stop the killing of Christians:

https://nypost.com/2025/11/01/us-news/trump-threatens-to-go-into-nigeria-guns-a-blazing-if-slaughter-of-christians-doesnt-stop/?utm_source=chrome&utm_campaign=android_nyp

I know some people hate this about Trump but I have to say I love it! He doesn’t talk in vague diplomatic language, he talks in a way that people understand. The Nigerian govt is now under maximum pressure. What will that crazy SOB do?

He gets things done. He gets hostages freed. He destroyed the Iran nuclear programme. He brokers peace all around the world. He was the guy who got the American embassy moved to Jerusalem. Other presidents promised to do it but he was the one that actually delivered on his promise.

Also no other American president or world leader for that matter, stands up for the Christians. Too politically incorrect. Now someone stands up for the persecuted Christians. That is awesome! 😎
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November 3, 2025 8:02am
- Nikola Donatello
  
  Next thing Chloe will be waving the Nigerian Flag and defending the rights of Nigerian Islam. 🙁
  
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  November 3, 2025 8:27am
  - cmm
    
    Naah, the Nigerian flag is colonialist. She will be waving a “liberation” flag – quite likely the Isis-like Boko Haram flag.
    
    She just needs some sort of “From the rivers to the sea” chant to justify Boko Haram abducting hundreds of girls to, ahem, serve, its fighters (why wait for 72 virgins when you can get a payday-loan today?)
    
    “From the North to the South pubescent girls should be raped” probably needs a bit of polish.
    
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    November 3, 2025 8:34am
  - I remember when
    
    Islamic conquering of Africa will give Chloe plenty to attack/defend for many years to come.
    
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    November 3, 2025 10:08am
  - Hugh Jarse
    
    Chloe loves a good dress-up, all the leftie girls do.
    
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    November 3, 2025 1:46pm
- MCōs
  
  He talks that way because he’s from New York
  
  I remember the first time I ever went there in 1972. We were going somewhere in a graffiti covered subway and a guy in a suit was waiting at a door to get out.
  He was confronted by a swarm of primary school aged kids getting on. He yelled ‘Get out of my way, fuck it!’
  I’d never heard an adult talk like that to kids before.
  They had. They took no notice and just pushed passed him.
  
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  November 3, 2025 9:10am
  - leoj
    
    New York is about to get truly fucked.
    
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    November 3, 2025 12:02pm
artemisia

The public will not find out until after the election how Labour would handle the thousands of property valuations needed for its capital gains tax (CGT) policy.

Thousands? No, hundreds of thousands. Even with possibly 5 years to obtain a valuation, is it feasible? Are there enough valuers? For sure valuers would be laughing hysterically all the way to the bank. Until the valuation requirement dries up.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/577588/labour-s-capital-gains-tax-valuation-day-details-not-to-be-revealed-until-after-election
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November 3, 2025 8:03am
- spryte
  
  If a bach is considered an asset which qualifies for a capital gain tax then it should be treated like any other asset. Expenses need to be deducted before any “gain” can be calculated. Mortgage, rates, insurance, general maintenance would be the main ones. I assume any mortgage held across home and bach would be 100% on the bach and could be significant. My rough p.a. calculations are $4k rates, $1k insurance, $1k maintenance, 100% mortgage $35k. Over 10 years it adds up and could be close to any “gain”. Are costs going to be deducted? If not, why not? (Disclosure: I am not an accountant.)
  
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  November 3, 2025 8:16am
  - artemisia
    
    Baches. It is the valuation day that counts. Not income (if any) or expenses (if any) unless they influence the valuation.
    
    Baches were outside the scope of Labour’s previous CGT policy for some reason. They are ‘second homes’ though so should logically be included in the new proposed policy. Predict there will be dancing on pin heads by Labour.
    
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    November 3, 2025 9:15am
  - Dougal10
    
    When does a bach become a home ? When you register to vote using the address , sleep there 50% of the time , and is it any different than having 2 homes as a family depending on where you and your spouse’s job is. An apartment in the city for 4 nights a week but a home rurally somewhere. Will there be any way to stop people selling the family home tax free and moving into their bach/retirement home . Chippy is just being dishonest not having the answers.
    
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    November 3, 2025 9:57am
    - artemisia
      
      Mr Hipkins will be relying on his tax expert to sort the details. So Barbara Edmonds is also in the hot seat. Any details from her yet? After all Labour has has been developing a CGT policy since at least 2014 so should know all about it by now.
      
      Barbara Edmonds?
      
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      November 3, 2025 10:58am
      - R
        
        Chippy is a very slow learner ! Ask Chris Bishop
        
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        November 3, 2025 11:20am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Deborah Russell?
        
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        November 3, 2025 6:33pm
    - artemisia
      
      “An apartment in the city for 4 nights a week but a home rurally somewhere.”
      
      So one would be the main home and one subject to CGT. IRD has a definition of main home.
      
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      November 3, 2025 11:04am
      - jonno1
        
        Mike Hosking and others in a similar situation won’t be happy.
        
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        November 3, 2025 12:52pm
    - Toes on the nose
      
      I tried asking the StandardTards about this but they hammered me. If an unmarried couple own two houses, live in one, rent the other… whats to stop them saying they own one house each? Nothing.
      
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      November 3, 2025 6:16pm
      - artemisia
        
        Details not yet known of course. But assuming the IRD ‘main home’ test will apply, if queried proof would be required. And that would be tricky if IRD sees that rental income for one property is being declared by the owner.
        
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        November 3, 2025 7:02pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        Given that every other country’s CGT has a principal residence clause it can’t be all that hard ….
        
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        November 3, 2025 7:32pm
- Spam
  
  The rent seeking that results from these types of legislative approaches is massive. Perhaps Bryce Edwards might like to get on to it?
  
  I got a valuation done to sell out property. The first paragraph in the report described how a buoyant property market had resulted in prices increasing by 15% in the last year. In the body of the report, they had two houses that they assessed as being worth less than ours, and two assessed as worth more. They averaged those house values (based on actual sales figures), and gave us a valuation that was an average of the others.
  
  All the house sales used for valuations were at least a year prior. I asked why, given that they had told us that values had increased over the year by 15%, why the average used had not been indexed to those and increased by 15%. They got shitty with me, said something about that the integrity of their process was that they didn’t negotiate valuations with clients. Fair enough, but it wasn’t a negotiation: it was pointing out that their process was fundamentally flawed!
  
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  November 3, 2025 8:42am
  - Mike
    
    Hopefully you just set an asking price and stick to it. Negotiate if potential buyers get their own valuation.
    
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    November 3, 2025 8:54am
    - Spam
      
      We asked for tenders, gave prospective buyers a copy of the valuation, told them our expectations on price, and explained our concerns with the valuation. In the end, we agreed a sale price that we were happy with.,
      
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      November 3, 2025 9:15am
- Quail
  
  Artemisia,
  Absolutely typical of Governance New Zealand style!
  “We won’t tell you what we are going to do with your money until we are elected and oh, let’s not forget, we have to consult with our coalition partners as we are not quite sure ourselves!”
  “ But trust us we will ensure the result will be good for you”
  Ha ha ha ha
  Trust them ? No way ever.
  Thanks MMP.
  
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  November 3, 2025 9:53am
- leoj
  
  Labour and its envy policies simply revealed that they hate anyone who has more than one house.
  
  Tax is not the problem. Spending is the problem.
  
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  November 3, 2025 12:06pm
  - Ian Boag
    
    Spending is the problem ,,,
    
    Pension for well-paid oldies 🙂
    
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    November 3, 2025 7:34pm
- Gary Benner
  
  Can any of he accountant types here comment on the situation where you place the ownership of a propery in a company, and then the sell shares in the company. Or equivalent through a Trust? Does that equate to a sale of the property, as the property title will not have changed?
  
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  November 3, 2025 12:29pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    Trust & companies are a separate legal entity & treated the same as an individual, so ownership of the property changes, so it’s effectively sold to the other entity.
    
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    November 3, 2025 2:15pm
NK

This is a public service announcement.

In Auckland, I am dealing with people who will likely lose millions and millions and millions of dollars resulting from the removal by National of the MDRS.
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November 3, 2025 8:18am
- Nukuleka
  
  What’s the MDRS? Asking on behalf of us ignorant plebs.
  
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  November 3, 2025 8:32am
  - rouppe
    
    I had to look it up too. Medium Density Residential Standards.
    
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    November 3, 2025 8:36am
  - alex Masterley
    
    Nukuleka, “Medium Density Residential Standards”.
    A consequence of the rushed amendement to the RMA to enable the higher density housing around stations that serve the CRL in Auckland.
    Looks like someone forgot to put a savings provision in the relevant legislation.
    
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    November 3, 2025 8:41am
  - peterwn
    
    ‘Medium Density Residential Standards’. Seems that the adoption of these standards increased development potential and so drove up affected property values. So removal of these standards will cause property values to drop. It would not really affect long term owners who would have opposed increased density in their leafy suburbs, but would hit those who purchased since the standards were introduced but were prepared to pay a premium price because of location, Grammar zone, etc. So the ones affected would probably vote ACT or NZF.
    
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    November 3, 2025 8:45am
    - cmm
      
      Talking of grammar zones raising an interesting point.
      If the population increases inside a grammar zone but the capacity of the grammar schools does not increase, then, presumably, the size of the grammar zone must shrink to adjust for that and some people currently inside the grammar zone will no longer be.
      
      Of course child bearing has gone down too so there are less children per dwelling. That might compensate.
      
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      November 3, 2025 8:57am
      - Mike
        
        LOL. I very much doubt that happens, and the school committee uses other tools to make sure the right kids get in (out-of-zone rugby players, for instance).
        
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        November 3, 2025 9:00am
    - NK
      
      Wrong.
      
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      November 3, 2025 9:29am
      - NK
        
        Planning rules, or any rules for that matter, are meant to provide certainty. That is part of the rule of law process we operate under in our “democracy”. Certainty allows capital investment and forward planning. When the rules were put in place, following consensus between National and Labour, clients of mine made business decisions based on those. They spent a lot of money. Some of them are now trying to sell their land holdings, based on consents granted under the rules put in place. National then played Team Populist when a few angry NIMBYs got upset about housing being built next to them. So National backtracked and revoked the rules it previously agreed to. That process has led, in Auckland at least, to a complete shambles which has destroyed a lot of wealth. I am seeing it now on a weekly basis.
        
        Now, if Labour did this there would be outrage. But it’s acceptable when National do it because they’re not Labour.
        
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        November 3, 2025 10:15am
      - cmm
        
        No planning rule ever provides certainly but it does provide a degree of predictability for the future.
        
        Much of the inflation of house prices is an artificial scarcity of land, buildings and prestige created by zoning laws, building laws, school zones and such.
        
        If we take those laws away then the artificially inflated prices will drop and, no doubt, many people would be immediately upside down in their mortgages.
        
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        November 3, 2025 10:48am
- Dudley Quaffquaff
  
  Presumably, medium density residential standards, the rules that were previously preventing people from making use as they wished of their own property and which National has recently revised so that you can now build a granny annex in your garden if you wish and your neighbours can’t stop you. Again presumably, it’s those neighbours who previously benefited from their power to stop you from using your own property, who are now moaning to NK about their woes.
  
  Assuming that’s what NK is on about – yes, and? Every rule imposed benefits some people and disadvantages others. Every rule lifted disadvantages some people and benefits others.
  
  If there are people who previously had “millions and millions and millions of dollars” thanks to a Government rule, then there are people who were previously being deprived of millions and millions and millions of dollars by the rule. Is there a particular reason why the interests of the first group should be prioritised, by maintaining the status quo ante, over the interests of the latter group?
  
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  November 3, 2025 8:42am
- Mike
  
  Land speculation can be tricky when there are fluctuating policies about land use.
  
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  November 3, 2025 8:57am
  - Quail
    
    Deregulation is something that must happen.
    Bishop has been talking loudly about returning property rights to land owner!
    Without deregulation this can not happen. There are winners and losers.
    For example,Rural land owners use rights have been decimated by ever growing regulation for the last 4 decades.
    Their 30 year plus drop off in productivity is mirrored by regulatory growth.The RMA has choked productivity.
    It is still happening,
    Nationals regulatory changes just seem to require more regulation to embed.
    There would be pain for some with actioning deregulation but the benefits to NZ would be huge!
    
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    November 3, 2025 6:52pm
Yvette

Driving this radical agenda to advance Maori supremacy instead of democracy is a “Deep State” network of bureaucrats and academics, who, along with a vast array of private sector advocates including the legacy media and the unions, promote race-based compacts that resist reform – Muriel Newman
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/muriel-newman-the-deep-state

Can anyone please explain any valid reason they have discovered, or indeed can rationally think of, why any “network of bureaucrats and academics, who, along with a vast array of private sector advocates” are doing this?

I could think that the Labour Maori Caucus could quietly say the Labour Leadership, comply with our wishes or we will form our breakaway party and you won’t see Government for decades, if ever.

But why are the rest pushing the basically Aryan policy of Maori exceptionalism – when by their own numbers, at nearly the bottom of every social measure, a vast portion of Maori may not be exceptional?

Simply: what is the motivation behind placing Maori ‘first’.
What is the payoff. Is it in unison we stand, divided we fall? Propagandized guilt?
Wai?
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November 3, 2025 8:43am
- Gravelroad
  
  “what is the motivation behind placing Maori ‘first’.”
  White guilt?
  We have been told for so long now that there is a huge cohort of “first” people from various backgrounds, knowledge, parentage and “blood” who have been terribly treated and deliberately disadvantaged by the white man/woman.
  So it must be true, eh?
  Respect and compensation must be paid – whether warranted or not.
  We will all feel much better and less guilty if we pay.
  Trouble is, it will never be enough.
  
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  November 3, 2025 9:34am
  - imalwaysright
    
    If white people were on the bad end of employment, crime, education, and health stats, the maori activists might have a point…
    Also imagine if our baby torture and murder rates were proportional. NZ would be declared a terrorist nation.
    
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    November 3, 2025 10:20am
  - Jake Dee
    
    This isn’t a new social dynamic, it’s very old, just playing out here in New Zealand at a much smaller scale.
    Consider, Three broad classes of society, Top, Middle, Bottom.
    Aristocracy, Bourgeoise, Proletariat, more or less.
    People want to move up and never down. Under pressure from the rank below it, the Middle can ally with the Bottom against the Top (French and Bolshevik revolutions) or the Top can ally against the Bottom against the Middle, like Julius and Augustus Caesar did when they finished off the Roman Republic.
    That’s the situation we’re seeing in NZ today, but without a real King or Aristocracy our Aristocratic ruling class is the Professional Managerial Class. They’re allying with the Bottom, broadly defined as Maori and “The Marginalized”. But this isn’t a Maori movement, it isn’t being driven by the Maori working class according to Maori spiritual beliefs, its being driven by the Professional University accredited class according to their secular beliefs.
    BTW this doesn’t have to be a deliberate conspiracy, it doesn’t need it, the process is partially dishonest and conscious but also partially honest and subconscious.
    
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    November 3, 2025 5:31pm
    - Quail
      
      JD
      The ‘ professional Managerial class = bureaucracy.
      And it is huge in NZ!
      
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      November 3, 2025 8:13pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It is Group think.
  
  Our leading academics seem to lack the ability to think for themselves. They have wholesale swallowed the festering pile of modern French philosophical thought.
  
  Outside of France, especially in the United States, French theory contributed to the rise of so-called identity politics: largely academic debates on gender, race, and ethnicity that built on social movements of the 1960s and 1970s and focused on culture as the space where meaning is generated and life lived. Altogether, French theory marked an intensive and extensive self-critique of Western modes of thought….
  It embodied the possibility that, if we can free ourselves from the domination of Western modes of thought, then we might be better equipped to imagine global futures in common.
  
  https://muse.jhu.edu/article/969760
  
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  November 3, 2025 10:25am
- Observant Octagenarian
  
  It is a result of the United Nations UNDIP – UN Declaration on the Rights of the Indigenous Peoples – which NZ signed up for. They produce the HePuapua report which promotes Maori rights.
  It is also active in Australia (Aborigines), Canada (Inuit eskimos), US (Indian tribes) et cetera.
  
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  November 3, 2025 10:58am
- keepcalmcarryon
  
  Maori is the new Latin, our self appointed woke priests and priestesses in their jobs as academics and the public service thus need to employ more of themselves and sell more courses to the great heathen racist unwashed who don’t reo and don’t know what the definition of Tikanga is this week.
  We must be told by the self anointed.
  
  Lawyers must be enriched in interpreting the ever expanding living document of the TOW, made up mysticism and history must be written through every law passed of course after tickets are clipped at every level by consultant parasites during consultation.
  Tikis must be worn, songs sung and chins tattoed.
  
  Maorification is huge business for iwi elites, lawyers, media and makework for bureaucrats. And Chris Finlayson.
  
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  November 3, 2025 11:04am
- NothingLeft
  
  Historically women were in strong competition with other women for limited food resources for their children. Undermining or otherwise finding social means to limit the number of kids other women had was a good way to increase chances of their own kids survival. Explaining a lot of subtlety malignant female behavior towards each other. Pretense of support masking (perhaps often unconscious) misogyny.
  
  There is also subconscious evolutionary pre-programmed disposition created through hundreds of thousands of years of tribal warfare for childless women to destroy their society, fomenting violence, revolution and even invasion to kill off competition for the resources that their children need (after impregnation by whoever ends up ‘winning’). Because fertile women are the group with the highest likelihood of survival in all conflicts – being kept alive for sex by conflict winners. Probably why evolution has led about half of women having rape fantasies.
  
  Marxism and feminism and promotion of racism (intersectionality) as promulgated by university taps into these instincts for revolution and fertility suppression in other females.
  
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  November 3, 2025 11:10am
  - NothingLeft
    
    Another take on things by Edward Dutton “The Jolly Heretic” who looks into genetic explanations for a lot of social and civilizational trends:
    
    https://youtu.be/QnVWb4mwcvo?t=1287
    
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    November 3, 2025 11:29am
David Garrett

So, it appears at this stage at least that the train stabbing was not a terrorist incident…it will be interesting to learn the motive when the full story comes out.

But fair’s fair: it seems the (Muslim) Home Secretary was right to urge people not to make assumptions. It would however be interesting to know just what she knew when she made that statement.
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- Ghost
  
  It is best to wait for the information to be released. It’s now reported that there is only one suspect, the other man has been released.
  
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  November 3, 2025 9:14am
- Chuck Bird
  
  If a Muslim kills or attempts to kill random people, it is a terrorist attack. What are the chances of the POS not being a Muslim?
  
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  November 3, 2025 9:15am
  - David Garrett
    
    Chuck: I think the odds are probably quite high that the attacker is NOT Muslim- despite our earlier assumptions. Why do I say that?
    Firstly there are no reports of him shouting “Allahu akbar”; second he is black, and not middle eastern. It will all emerge in the fullness of time.
    
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    November 3, 2025 9:29am
    - rouppe
      
      I haven’t seen any description of his skin colour?
      
      There’s plenty of African Muslims, ergo black.
      
      If it turns out that he “was radicalised” then quite frankly it should then be called a terrorist event.
      
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      November 3, 2025 9:46am
      - Ghost
        
        Reported last night in the police presser, the 35 year old has been released
        
        Two British nationals arrested on suspicion of attempted murder
        
        Supt John Loveless says armed officers boarded the train and arrested two people within eight minutes of the 999 calls.
        
        There are two men in police custody.
        
        They are a 32-year-old male black British male and 35-year-old British national of Caribbean descent.
        
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        November 3, 2025 9:56am
    - cmm
      
      It is not so much the black part as the Carribean part that would lead you to think he is less likely to be Muslim.
      
      Although Muslims are few in the Carribean as a whole, some areas have a reasonably large Muslim population (eg Suriname is around 14% Muslim), but people from Suriname are unlikely to end up in UK.
      
      That does not prevent people converting to Islam, but that’s less likely too.
      
      Still it is valid pattern recognition – see a bunch of random knifings and it is far too likely there’s a Muslim involved.
      
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      November 3, 2025 10:55am
      - Ghost
        
        The 35 year old Carribean was released, just a passenger
        
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        November 3, 2025 11:07am
      - Libertarians are right
        
        Apparently he was yelling to stop the devil according to one of the victims but he wasn’t the Carribean guy.
        
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        November 3, 2025 11:11am
      - Taieri
        
        Suriname is not a Caribbean country. It’s on the Atlantic coast.
        
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        November 3, 2025 11:41am
    - Blog-aholic
      
      Muslim is not a race, it is an ideological religious belief.
      They are apparently UK born of Caribbean origin…
      There were ‘reports’ of that particular call but not substantiated at this stage.
      It could literally be any reason at this time…..
      
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      November 3, 2025 11:00am
  - Jake Dee
    
    “If a Muslim kills or attempts to kill random people, it is a terrorist attack.”
    
    Now that’s a spicy take on terrorism.
    I must be getting old
    How old are you Jake?
    I tell you what, I’m SO old that I remember when terrorism was an attack by a Catholic on a Protestant!
    
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    November 3, 2025 6:39pm
- Handyman
  
  We all thought it.
  Within 15 minutes we knew for sure…
  The crim was not white or far right. That would have been leaked immediately.
  The official narrative will be a lone actor with no known motive.
  Plea for more mental health support.
  
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  November 3, 2025 9:29am
- rouppe
  
  The authorities describe it as not a terror related event, but it’s reported in the media as 15 minutes of terror.
  
  I think there’s too much effort put in to declare something not terror related when it instils that reaction in just about everybody else.
  
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  November 3, 2025 9:44am
  - virtualmark
    
    Technically, and I think legally, a terrorist act is something that is done to try to change government policy or actions. It’s an act that has a political or geo-political dimension.
    
    This knifing on the train did create terror, but that doesn’t make it legally a terrorist act and I doubt it could be prosecuted under terrorism laws.
    
    It will probably be prosecuted as murder and attempted murder – not terrorism.
    
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    November 3, 2025 3:03pm
- Mike
  
  It must be very disappointing news for anyone eager to bewail the latest Muslim atrocity.
  
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  November 3, 2025 9:54am
  - Handyman
    
    And some people will be relieved.
    
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    November 3, 2025 10:29am
    - Conservatarian
      
      Just keep calm and carry on, Englishmen. You are living in the liberal fantasy known as the multicultural society, where the diversity dividend keeps on paying and paying.
      
      Make sure you shut your eyes and ears and especially your mouths, Englishmen.
      
      You wouldn’t want to be racist would you, Englishmen?
      
      There’s no need to be concerned about the carnage being reported every day by the foreigners that your rulers let in legally, or the invaders who break into your country.
      
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      November 3, 2025 11:49am
      - Ghost
        
        The person arrested is British born.
        
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        November 3, 2025 12:24pm
      - Conservatarian
        
        Sigh…
        
        So which black guy did the murders then?
        
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        November 3, 2025 12:48pm
      - Mike
        
        To which wave of immigration would a conservative prefer to have been the last?
        Romans?
        Anglo-Saxons?
        Vikings?
        Normans?
        Jews (expelled 1200s, readmitted 1600s)?
        Romani?
        Huguenots?
        Irish?
        French emigres?
        Miscellaneous eastern Europeans?
        Imperial legacies, including, but not limited to Indians, West Indians, Chinese, Africans, etc.?
        
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        November 3, 2025 1:02pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        Anglo-Saxons?
        Vikings?
        Normans?
        
        My ancestry encompasses all the above, plus Cornish & Scotts – ( Celtic)
        
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        November 3, 2025 2:18pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    “…the latest Muslim atrocity.”
    
    You said the quiet bit out loud.
    
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    November 3, 2025 10:57am
  - Conservatarian
    
    Well, we get to “revel” in the fact that “the Carribean community” makes up 13% of London’s population but accounts for 53% of the stabbings.
    
    People of Caribbean descent in London are UK citizens but they are not ethnically or culturally English. They are foreigners, and they have only been in England for a few generations at best (not for 1,000+ years). In general the Caribbeans have a significant cultural problem with violence and crime.
    
    I’m not even going to mention a statistic such as a person of English ethnicity is 22 times less likely to commit a rape in the UK than a person of Afghan ethnicity.
    
    A nation whose rulers adopt a multicultural society does not require its citizens to integrate into (act like) the extant culture of the nation. Where the extant culture of the nation is objectively superior to the people it lets in (such as in the West), the standard of the nation will inevitably decline. This is not even up for debate.
    
    The purpose of a system is what it produces. The multiculturalists knew what they were doing. In the UK, the Blairites and Tories knew what they were doing.
    
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    November 3, 2025 11:24am
    - Ghost
      
      Just to repeat, the Caribbean man who was arrested was an innocent passenger who has been released.
      
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      November 3, 2025 12:32pm
      - Conservatarian
        
        Thanks, that eases every single one of my concerns about the extent of knife crime carried out by “the Caribbean community”
        
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        November 3, 2025 3:02pm
  - RichardF
    
    Muslim or not, the UK, particularly the large cities, are crime infested hell holes. Groups of hooded young ‘road men’ who follow ‘drip’ culture and listen to ‘drill’ music…..they’ll steal your phone from your hand, and slash you with a machete if you fight back. I’m glad my OE was nearly 30 years ago. I was nearly mugged by a knife carrying KID in 2001 who was unhappy I was using the payphone he wanted. It’s much worse now.
    
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    November 3, 2025 11:34am
    - MCōs
      
      I worked in London in 1972-3.
      The people in the one office I worked in in particular were scathing of foreigners – mainly Pakistanis and Jamaicans for some reason
      There were two Nigerians in the office. One of them tried to fit in, assimilate I believe the word is and for his troubles got called a black bastard and all the rest.
      The other guy didn’t try to fit in; just did his work and went on his way at the end of the day. Nobody gave him any shit. He lived his life on his own terms
      
      A couple of years after that Tony Greig, a South African, was captain of the English cricket team and he got on TV and said he was going to make the visiting West Indies cricket team grovel.
      Bad move
      Clive Lloyd, who was the Windies captain, rounded up the biggest, meanest, faster bowlers they had back home in the islands and they pummeled the pommy batsmen with short pitched deliveries in the days before helmets and half the protection they wear today.
      
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      November 3, 2025 3:33pm
      - MCōs
        
        At the time the three main causes of public violence outside the usual gangland activity were the IRA, fighting between mods and rockers and football hooliganism every weekend.
        
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        November 3, 2025 4:18pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        No one says “grovel” like a man with a South African accent.
        
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        November 3, 2025 6:43pm
  - Media hater
    
    On the contrary, everyone knew it wouldn’t be a far-right white man. The description of this individual still comes under the ‘usual suspects’ tag. I hope that doesn’t disappoint you too much.
    
    By the way, interesting that you actual refer to ‘latest Muslim atrocity,” now why is that?
    
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    November 3, 2025 11:53am
  - leoj
    
    Yes, Mike, most of the atrocities are performed by muslims.
    
    Thanks for confirming that for us.
    
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    November 3, 2025 12:11pm
- Philview
  
  The Southport nursery killings were also carried out by a British born man of African heritage who later turned out to have Isis material in his him home and this association wasn’t disclosed for quite some time.
  
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  November 3, 2025 11:23am
  - Conservatarian
    
    But I’ve been told the “magic soil” of England (or Britain) means that any foreigner immediately adopts English (or British) values and culture once they are born in, or set foot on, English (or British) soil.
    
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    November 3, 2025 12:51pm
- Scott
  
  Let me ask this. What are the chances it was a white British born person whose parents were also born in Britain?
  Before mass immigration Britain was a high trust safe country.
  Now they have immigrants or sons of immigrants going around stabbing people. And it happens a lot.
  
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  November 3, 2025 5:07pm
Rusty

So our media doesn’t think its news worthy to report on Bill Gates’apparent change of views on climate change?

According to Gates climate change is not going to destroy the environment and human civilization after all.
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November 3, 2025 9:12am
- Ghost
  
  Some of the articles that our media reported
  
  NZ Herald
  
  Radio NZ
  
  Newstalk zb
  
  Stuff
  
  Mike’s minute
  
  The Post
  
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  November 3, 2025 9:22am
  - Mike
    
    LOL
    If Bill Gates has changed his mind on climate change, will it alter his villain status at Kiwiblog?
    
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    November 3, 2025 9:56am
    - Simon
      
      Basically China produced cheap alt-energy which undercut the climate fraud the oligarchs were pushing to benefit massively from the energy transition.
      
      There will be emergency climate nut jobs hold outs, like the Wellington Clown Show. But its over
      
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      November 3, 2025 10:13am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I s’pose it’s whether we believe him about his relationship with Epstein.
      
      https://people.com/bill-gates-addresses-jeffrey-epstein-friendship-8780614
      
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      November 3, 2025 10:30am
    - Ghost
      
      He still believes it is a serious issue, just that innovation will help solve it. Poverty and disease are his focus now, and has been for a while
      
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      November 3, 2025 10:34am
    - imalwaysright
      
      “changed his mind”
      
      Maybe “stopped lying” would be a more accurate description.
      
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      November 3, 2025 10:40am
    - Fender
      
      No hes still trying to control medicine and now food supply
      
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      November 3, 2025 10:57am
    - Handyman
      
      No but he will now be a villian of the left. Prepare to see negative articles start popping up. Fir example, how many times had he been to Eastern island.
      
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      November 3, 2025 2:27pm
  - Jethrod
    
    Something must of happened to affect his retirement fund.
    
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    November 3, 2025 10:30am
  - RichardF
    
    Yeah Stuff buried it in their climate change section, it was hard to find. It was not ‘breaking news’ like they usually use for climate related news.
    
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    November 3, 2025 11:35am
- cmm
  
  I wonder whether this really is a change of heart.
  
  Maybe Bill Gates has finally figured out that keeping up with the Climate Change paranoia is going to get in the way of building more AI data centres.
  
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  November 3, 2025 10:35am
  - Ghost
    
    More money in vaccines…..
    
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    November 3, 2025 10:53am
    - Mike
      
      Donating $6 billion-plus for global health programs is not sufficient to atone for the daily horror of facing ‘improved’ features in MS apps.
      
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      November 3, 2025 12:44pm
- Flossie
  
  If it wasn’t reported, then how do you know? I’m sure I read about it on multiple sites.
  
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  November 3, 2025 12:56pm
RoboRob

Wellington Girls’ College ignoring ministry advice by telling some students to stay home after measles cases

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/577600/wellington-girls-college-ignoring-ministry-advice-by-telling-some-students-to-stay-home-after-measles-cases

This is a great example of how schools are keen to close for absolutely any reason. This school is to close for three days when there is NO reason for any school to close at all for measles. The MOH is benig overly cautious and this school is taking it to the next level. If your kid has been vacinated they should be able to go to school. If your kid has not then they suffer the consequences and have to stay at home. See how easy it is? No need to kids to lose yet another 3 days of education and teachers to have another day holiday.

The teachers are taking the piss, again.
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- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  To be fair, Wellington Girls is the best state school in the country. They can probably get away with a couple of days being cautiously closed without too much trouble.
  
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  November 3, 2025 6:54pm
Swifty

Scott Adams is not in a good way.

https://x.com/scottadamssays/status/1984981481622831519?s=46
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November 3, 2025 9:26am
Littletramp

Interesting to hear Christopher Luxon tell Mike Hosking this morning that he thought there was a chance Trump may visit and inspect our golf assets.
It used to be called playing a game of golf.
No wonder he (Luxon) is impossible to warm to.
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November 3, 2025 9:27am
I remember when

Does Bill Gates’ change of mind mean that ‘climate change’ is ceasing to be a massive revenue source for the super rich?
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November 3, 2025 10:18am
- rouppe
  
  As I hypothesized a few days ago, Bill Gates made large amounts of money from the climate change era. He may well see that coming to an end and wants to make even more money from the climate adaptation era.
  
  Through modeling, AI, and industries he may well be investing in now.
  
  All supposition on my part, but a leopard doesn’t change it’s spots, does it?
  
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  November 3, 2025 11:31am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Iirc, investment in Microsoft still accounts for around 28% of Gates wealth (he loves Berkshire Hathaway too)
    Microsoft are investing heavily in AI and Data Centres (which need lotsa energy)
    ‘The tech giant said Wednesday that its capital expenditures surged to $34.9 billion in its fiscal first quarter, up from $24.2 billion in the fourth quarter, with most of the funds going toward investments in building out its AI infrastructure.’
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/microsoft-is-dramatically-boosting-ai-investments-as-it-races-to-keep-up-with-demand/ar-AA1Ps9CY
    https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2025/09/16/microsoft-30-billion-uk-ai-future/
    
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    November 3, 2025 2:04pm
I remember when

Just a thought on the latest Health Care strikes – should they be demanding greater use of AI, so that time spent sitting at ‘work stations’ is minimised?
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November 3, 2025 10:23am
Ghost

A petition calling for John Tamihere to stand down as Te Pāti Māori president has been pushed by members of the party.

Te Pāti Māori Te Tai Tonga electorate instagram page published a post calling for their president’s resignation on Monday. “Leadership within Te Ao Māori is sacred – when it strays from tika, pono and aroha, it must be held to account.

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It would be a start, but the problem is far more than just John
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November 3, 2025 10:41am
- Jethrod
  
  Quick , we all need to go onto the Horrid website and support poor John//
  
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  November 3, 2025 1:57pm
cmm

Spin, spin spin…
Same fact can promote outrage or agreement depending on how it is spun.

Fact: Minister says that a school will get extra funding if it introduces zoning.

Spin version A: This is a threat by the minister. The minister is threatening to withhold funding if the school does not comply. It is outrageous that the minister is using taxpayer money as a lever to force ideaological compliance.

Spin version B: The minister would prefer zoning. The minister recognises that brings extra costs and would thus increase the funding. Sounds reasonable.

Same fact can be spun both ways to generate the desired reaction.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/christchurch-principal-says-ministry-of-education-threatened-to-withhold-classrooms/TIEHTLFBWVBYBGAS2CB3ZHEOEA/
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November 3, 2025 10:42am
imalwaysright

The Police website states five different feelings that can justify a ‘Hate Crime’ complaint.

Perhaps they could also state the criteria for Maori ‘cultural’ extortion complaints?
A prospective mine in the South Island was told by local Iwi that their cultural objections to the mine will be withdrawn if the mine operator pays them money.

If anyone else tried this scam they would be arrested.
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November 3, 2025 10:43am
MCōs

Apparently the population of Tonga is about 100k with another 100k in NZ of whom 30k+ were at Eden Park yesterday for the league game against the local Kiwis who mostly live in Australia.
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November 3, 2025 10:54am
Blog-aholic

The question is this……If something violent happens and it terrifies people is it not actually terrorism?
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November 3, 2025 11:01am
- Dudley Quaffquaff
  
  Whether it’s classified as terrorism, goes to the intent of the perpetrator, not the effect on the victims. It’s terrorism if the perpetrator is seeking to terrorise the public into forcing a change in Governmental policy, as the IRA used to and Islamic terror groups do. There’s no indication, yet, that the perpetrator in this instance had any such motivation.
  
  Taking this a bit further, it’s a successful terrorist act if it does in fact lead to the desired change in public policy. That’s up to us.
  
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  November 3, 2025 3:57pm
BeaB

You can hear in the breathless reporting that RNZ is just dying for another lockdown, for measles this time, a disease most of us weather comfortably although serious for a few.
They even questioned the PM about it!
And of course schools are taking every opportunity to make the kids stay home. High schools must be almost deserted these days with no seniors and now juniors being told to stay home even if vaccinated.
It’s going to be a nice long summer holiday this year for many teachers.
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November 3, 2025 11:15am
- imalwaysright
  
  85% of people are vaccinated for measles, how about the other 15% stay home.
  The measles vaccine seems to work, unlike the covid jab which clearly doesn’t, therefore get a jab or get the measles but don’t start the chicken little bullshit that the sky is falling.
  
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  November 3, 2025 11:58am
  - mandk
    
    “The measles vaccine seems to work, unlike the covid jab which clearly doesn’t, …”
    
    And there lies the problem.
    
    Because people were fooled or coerced into having the covid vaxx, which didn’t do anything to prevent the spread of the bug, they don’t trust real vaccines any more.
    
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    November 3, 2025 3:47pm
- cmm
  
  “a disease most of us weather comfortably although serious for a few.”
  As was Covid.
  
  I would argue that measles is far worse than Covid because it kills mostly the young and not just those with comorbidities. Covid almost exclusively just nudged a few people a bit further along the perch. It was nothing like the Spanish Flu etc which mainly killed healthy people.
  
  Unfortunately many no longer trust vaccinations due to the lying during Covid that stated that Covid vaccines were as good as measles vaccines. Unfortunately the segments of the population who have the least medical literacy (and are most prone to damaging messaging) are those with the highest fertility and the most children.
  
  That was a lie that many here (including myself) predicted would have serious negative consequences.
  
  And here we are.
  
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  November 3, 2025 12:49pm
Tauhei Notts

Tomorrow is Cup Day at Melbourne. So here is a summary of N.Z.’s impact on the race.
#12 Smokin Romans was bred by the Anderton family at Wingatui, near Dunedin.
#23 Torranzino was technically bred in N.Z. It was bred by Australians who had their mare at a stud farm at Karaka, near Papakura.
#7 Middle Earth and #24 Valiant King were both sired by Roaring Lion who died, prematurely, at Cambridge Stud. Incidentally, Cambridge Stud is just 25km from Hobbiton, also known as Middle Earth.
#19 Athabascan was bred in Europe, sired by Almanzor. Almanzor is what many 16 year old youths would want to be; a shuttle stallion. He serves about 150 mares in the northern hemisphere between February and June each year, then he shuttles to Cambridge Stud and serves another 150 mares between September and December. A great life if you can manage it.
I have studied horse racing for many decades. My father bred horses. He imported Count Rendered who sired Syntax, a placegetter in The Cup. Then he bred Ben Lomond who came 3rd in 1969. Then he imported Blarney Kiss who sired Kiwi (1983) and Rangong who sired Hyperno (1979).
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November 3, 2025 11:22am
- Fender
  
  More importantly who do we bet on?
  
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  November 3, 2025 12:59pm
- Ian
  
  I’ll never forget that Cup Day race Kiwi ran. From the back of the field to win – absolutely incredible…
  
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  November 3, 2025 1:09pm
Scooter

I wonder what the chances are that the BSA will be closed down. Zero as I think National will be too scared to act in case they might appear to agree with Sean Plunkett that Tikanga is mumbo jumbo.
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November 3, 2025 11:33am
rouppe

ACC changes to have staff in the office 3 days a week prompts legal action

On October 7, ACC told staff they would be required to work from their office three days a week, up from two.

The PSA said this came to a “significant change to ACC’s Remote Working Policy, and is in breach of existing agreements between staff and ACC”.

How any employer can get themselves into a position where 5 days a week isn’t the norm anymore, and working from home is an exception is beyond me.

Useless management. Again.
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November 3, 2025 11:41am
- Mike
  
  Would never have happened in the days when the SSC negotiated with the PSA and set service-wide conditions. That was scrapped for being inefficient though.
  
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  November 3, 2025 1:07pm
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    Why would “service wide conditions” be efficient? You are describing the New Zealand of the 1970s.
    
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    November 3, 2025 2:56pm
    - Mike
      
      I’m a conservative, so I’d naturally prefer the public aervice to be restored to what it was when I were a lad.
      
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      November 3, 2025 6:33pm
- Nikola Donatello
  
  Well the reason is simple. Working in a government office is so vile and noisy that conscientious and ambitious employees cannot get anything done. The only place to do serious work is in a quiet, well designed home office. When the public service leaders provide offices fit for serious work, I will go back to the office. Until then, I will go to the office one day per week to connect with colleagues.
  
  For now, I will leave the office to public servants who shout, giggle, play the fool, and stop me from getting any work done.
  
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  November 3, 2025 2:52pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360873692/watch-electric-bus-erupts-flame-less-minute
Send the driver the bill: just how thick could he be ?
Clearly marked, and no doubt all drivers would have been advised not to go there. Probably on meth.
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November 3, 2025 12:21pm
- kowtow
  
  Surely there’d be a case for careless or reckless driving .
  
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  November 3, 2025 1:32pm
- Jethrod
  
  It looks like a brand new bus…. the bus company probably didn’t do due diligence to see if it was suitable for the route ….. it happens.
  NZR Road Services open a brand new terminal in Rotorua in the 60’s…. at the official opening with big wigs from Wellington, in comes the first bus and “CRUNCH” it can’t get under the verandah in front of the terminal. Very shame faced big wigs!
  
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  November 3, 2025 2:05pm
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    I have a friend that used to organise removals etc of LARGE items of machinery etc. He used to drive the route and measure all the heights at bridges across the road.
    
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    November 3, 2025 4:18pm
Chuck Bird

Does anyone know anything about the Rural Nats? Is it a group of National MPs who are rural MPs? If so, who are these MPs?
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November 3, 2025 12:39pm
- Mike
  
  Rural, or rustic?
  
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  November 3, 2025 1:04pm
- kowtow
  
  No , but research universities have lots of neural rats.
  
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  November 3, 2025 1:31pm
- Jethrod
  
  They are forerunners ot the new Country party.
  
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  November 3, 2025 2:07pm
Hugh Jarse

One news just got that much harder to listen to with the appointment of Melissa Stokes as nightly repeater. She’s seems like a nice woman, but I can’t stand the way she talks through her nose.
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November 3, 2025 1:48pm
- Aquarius
  
  That’s still better than where her predecessor talks through……..
  
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  November 3, 2025 4:43pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Don’t you be mean to that nice Melissa!
  
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  November 3, 2025 7:00pm
Swifty

Donnie tells it like it is:

https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1985109551390093340?s=46

😀
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November 3, 2025 2:47pm
Nikola Donatello

“The new seasonal route will begin operations from May 26 – ahead of the July school holidays – and run until October 24, 2026, adding more than 18,000 stopover-free seats from Te Waipounamu to the tropics over winter.”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/travel-news/air-new-zealand-adds-christchurch-rarotonga-service-as-south-island-travel-demand-grows/X74Y4R6XQVD6JKAEYPHL7KCFA4/

Honestly, I have never heard a resident of the South Island refer to the place as “Te Waipounamu”. Not ever. So what is the point of such a reference in a newspaper article?
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November 3, 2025 2:54pm
Swifty

What a total cluster.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/te-pati-maori-electorate-branch-launches-petition-urging-president-john-tamihere-to-resign/3DXD7KECJRBF3GJCQJ5K635BIE/

Nice to see Tamihere true to form with yet another racist slur with “white feeding frenzy.”

I guess the question is will we see more Maori Party waka jumping and, if so, when?
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November 3, 2025 2:55pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360873977/silver-ferns-coach-dame-noeline-taurua-opens-horrific-experience-blindsided-her

The MSM is doing their best to beatify Taurua: I can’t wait to hear what it was that the players found so objectionable that they complained en-masse to their employer. This one-sided support for Taurua is actually not doing her case any favours.
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November 3, 2025 3:03pm
anonymouse

PopCorn, popcorn, get ya popcorn here..

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360874051/white-feeding-frenzy-john-tamihere-launches-attack-against-his-te-pati-maori-supporting-critics

Gotta say, not looking hopeful that there will only be just one Māori party by the end of the month ..
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November 3, 2025 3:18pm
Ian

It seems that Tom Rose, Herald journalist since 2023 (probably a woke newbie), only sprinkles Maori names at random hoping we will start using them. The fourteen references to Christchurch do not feature the alternative Maori name.
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November 3, 2025 3:40pm
Ghost

What may be the biggest battle yet in Donald Trump’s trade war is about to begin.

The Trump administration heads to the US Supreme Court on Wednesday, facing off against small businesses and a group of states who contend most of the tariffs it has put in place are illegal and should be struck down.

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The fallout from this will be huge if the court rules against it.
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November 3, 2025 5:13pm
Swifty

Maori payola! Naked corruption.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iljq3hkOn5s&pp=ugUHEgVlbi1HQg%3D%3D

Ngai Tahu just want to wet their beak a little. //

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FUqe7Hviii4&pp=ygUYVGhlIGdvZGZhdGhlciBibGFjayBoYW5k0gcJCQMKAYcqIYzv

The politicians who have enabled this, in some cases actively promoted this, stand condemned.

This is sheer, outright grift. And a cost borne by all New Zealanders – to line the pockets of a
privileged few.
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November 3, 2025 5:51pm
Ghost

Donald Trump renovates White House Lincoln bathroom with marble and chandelier over toilet

I just don’t think I’d want to use the toilet,…..
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November 3, 2025 7:45pm
Swifty

Gavin Newsom tells the truth for once in his life:

https://x.com/papitrumpo/status/1985145000930464087?s=46

😂
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