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Cassandra

Coalition/National education minister Erica Stanford has taken control of the Teachers Council from the teachers union and put it under directors appointed by her. Very sensible move. The education budget is huge. Stanford is now accountable and from all accounts she’ll rise to the occasion. Very capable and tough woman, albeit a trifle liberal. Of course it’ll all hinge on the quality of her appointees.

Stanford also said “School boards play an important role in raising achievement. But they cannot and should not carry the Crown’s constitutional obligations under the Treaty,” she said. “Their focus should be on the practical things that make a difference for students: ensuring children are turning up to school, progressing in their learning, and succeeding.”

Legislation requiring schools to give effect to the ToW was passed by Labour in 2020 and Stanford said the Treaty clause had “made no difference to raising the achievement of tamariki Māori”. Tamariki is Maori for children.

Next up the universities?
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November 4, 2025 8:01am
- artemisia
  
  Teacher unions are calling it a power grab. It certainly is. Of course pushing to keep the status quo is also a power grab.
  
  Noted that there is a PSC investigation underway of the Teaching Council about its management of procurement and conflicts of interest.
  
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  November 4, 2025 8:16am
- Simon
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Rolling back the extremes of the Ardern government isn’t any sort of achievement. National remain completely divorced from reality in everything they touch. National are traveling clown circus but with a huge budget.
  
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  November 4, 2025 8:26am
- cmm
  
  If Labour can insert the clause, National can strike it.
  
  It is rather telling that Sanford is not just leaving the clause in place but it talking it up.
  
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  November 4, 2025 8:26am
  - Cassandra
    
    I thought she’s removing it.
    
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    November 4, 2025 8:45am
    - cmm
      
      Then why the talk of “Crown’s constitutional obligations under the Treaty”?
      
      That makes no sense.
      
      If you’re trying to get rid of a clause then why would you talk about people having an obligation to it?
      
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      November 4, 2025 8:48am
      - Cassandra
        
        Read it in full. She said it’s the Crown’s job, not schools.
        
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        November 4, 2025 8:51am
      - cmm
        
        I agree it is the Crown’s job. But why mention the Treaty?
        
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        November 4, 2025 10:17am
  - wsk12345
    
    Didn’t I read that Seymour is introducing legislation today to remove the ToW BS from boards of trustees? Can’t find it now sorry, in a rush.
    
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    November 4, 2025 8:46am
    - Ghost
      
      No.
      
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      November 4, 2025 9:00am
    - Foxfour
      
      Seymour’s mandate is very limited as an associate Education Minister to only
      early childhood education (ECE) and partnership schools. Perhaps school lunches with that.
      
      He’s been slapped down before over going beyond his mandate
      
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      November 4, 2025 9:26am
      - Quail
        
        Fox4
        Seymour,”slapped down for going over his mandate”
        What are you talking about?
        Seymour is the deputy prime minister and the leader of his party.
        It is his job and duty to represent his party and ,dare I say it , the people of NZ.
        That is his mandate
        His courage can only be applauded.
        I wish that all politicians would stick to the principles they espouse on the hustings.
        Democracy would win.
        
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        November 4, 2025 10:59am
      - Nikola Donatello
        
        Just to be clear. The responsibilities of David Seymour as Associate Minister of Education are specified in a delegation letter from Erica Stanford. She has the say in what he can and cannot do.
        
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        November 4, 2025 1:08pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  What is very clear is that modern teacher training has failed to produce competent teachers.
  
  “The latest report from the OECD’s Teaching and Learning International Survey (TALIS) 2024 shows 62 per cent of graduate teachers were not confident in teaching content of all subjects they teach. 54 per cent weren’t confident in pedagogical approaches on how to teach them. Last year, the Education Review Office (ERO) found nearly two thirds of principals report their new teachers are unprepared.
  
  https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/strengthening-initial-teacher-education-workforce-governance
  
  For years our school children have been short-changed by curriculums that lack depth, poorly trained teachers and a hopeless education bureaucracy.
  
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  November 4, 2025 8:29am
  - cmm
    
    IMHO if you care about your child’s education you need to supplement it in some way.
    If you spend half an hour a day teaching the basics: reading, writing, maths then you will be able to avoid most of the failings of the school system.
    
    Sure, it shouldn’t be that way but it is. Deal with reality.
    
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    November 4, 2025 8:45am
    - Cassandra
      
      Beyond most parents. Reading to my children nightly plus a bit of maths occasionally was about it. After a tough day shooting commies I was usually quite weary.
      
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      November 4, 2025 8:47am
      - cmm
        
        It is not beyond most parents ability. It is, however, beyond most parents caring.
        
        We homeschooled or kids. There are thousands of families in NZ that do this. Few have special training.
        
        If people want to teach your kid extra maths then waddle down to Whitcoulles and buy a few books. If you can’t even do that then order them online.
        
        Youtube and other parts of the internet are awash with resources. There really are no excuses.
        
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        November 4, 2025 8:52am
      - Foxfour
        
        Home schooling requires using the available resources.
        As non teacher parents wouldn’t have a clue
        
        https://learningfromhome.govt.nz/learning-resources
        https://homeschoolingnz.org/
        
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        November 4, 2025 9:29am
      - cmm
        
        FF are you speaking from experience? I am.
        
        Homeschoolers use all sorts of resources. They don’t just sit passively for government hand outs then shrug and complain when they don’t get the desired result.
        
        Finding resources has never been easier.
        
        Anyone other than maybe the most stupid 5 to 10% of people in society can adequately teach their children to primary level (at least) and achieve superior results to schools. All it really takes is getting off your arse and doing it.
        
        Homeschoolers are subject to ERO review. They don’t just run amok. The ERO review officers have spoken to say that they very rarely have issues with homeschoolers and almost all their headaches come from teachers at government schools.
        
        We homeschooled our kids all the way through. The only thing they did that was in any way traditional was doing NCEA2-level chemistry through the correspondence school. Both went on to get STEM degrees.
        
        One of the biggest benefits of homeschooling is that parents who struggled at school often find they learned more by teaching their kids and effectively upgrade their broken government education.
        
        I don’t think homeschooling is for everyone. Many people are not cut out to do it and few are prepared to put in the required effort and the material sacrifices.
        
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        November 4, 2025 10:28am
      - Philview
        
        My school days were back in the 80s at a boys’ school were male teachers tended to be ex military types and hard as nails. I think late career moves into teaching should be actively encouraged so that teachers bring life experiences to the job.
        
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        November 4, 2025 11:23am
      - NZer In Exile
        
        FF the main reason why people home school is they see that the govt education system has gone completely mad. Why would they then trust govt advice on home schooling?
        
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        November 4, 2025 5:45pm
    - mandk
      
      There are some useful online mathematics teaching resources, like Mathletics, that parents can use alongside their kids.
      
      The resources can be used progressively and at the kids’ own pace.
      
      Good for parents to brush up their skills, too!
      
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      November 4, 2025 10:21am
  - mogg
    
    It is a few years back now, but when my now retired wife was working as a senior teacher she had to proofread the teacher written reports before they went out to parents. She did this at home, often calling me over to look at gobbledegook, spelling mistakes bad grammar, no punctuation. There was a clear divide between knowledgeable older teachers and at best semi-literate younger teachers.
    
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    November 4, 2025 8:57am
  - Hugh Jarse
    
    Maggy it is no surprise that young teachers who themselves have been educated through a sub standard primary, secondary and tertiary system struggle with delivering the subjects in a manner expected of them. They are as much victims of the Education Department as the kids currently in school. They just don’t know what they don’t know.
    
    Good on Erica for going full auto on this system that’s failing at multiple levels. More power to her.
    
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    November 4, 2025 9:00am
  - R
    
    The problem is a product of the Lange ‘tomorrow’s schools ‘ legislation.
    
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    November 4, 2025 9:11am
  - Phronesis
    
    Many of those new teachers are graduating with masters degrees in teaching instead of diplomas. So they must be better…./s
    
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    November 4, 2025 10:06am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Good luck trying to get University Education faculties to start training people in teaching, instead of just indoctrinating them with ‘white man bad’. At best, it will take a long time to have an effect. It would have been more practical to bypass them completely and just let people without a teaching diploma become registered teachers following an ‘apprenticeship’ in schools.
  
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  November 4, 2025 8:57am
  - Foxfour
    
    So you know this how ?… from studying the education degree courses in detail….
    Thats a no.
    As of course all degree courses require students to do unpaid time in class rooms
    
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    November 4, 2025 9:31am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      As of course all degree courses require students to do unpaid time in class rooms
      
      Thank goodness, they do…
      still it doesn’t seem to be enough time, as so many of the new graduates are ill-prepared and unconfident about teaching parts of the curriculum.
      
      If primary school teachers think Year 8 is “complex maths” and beyond their ability to teach, you’ve really got to wonder how they became certified/registered teachers.
      
      Some teachers are less confident to teach complex maths content, and are more comfortable teaching number.
      
      Concerningly, so far, teachers focus on number, and all other components are taught less. The focus on teaching number does not shift, even in more senior levels.
      
      https://www.evidence.ero.govt.nz/documents/a-new-chapter-how-well-are-the-changes-to-english-and-maths-going-research-report#read-online
      
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      November 4, 2025 9:58am
      - cmm
        
        It is quite clear that the career is sold to the wrong people.
        
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        November 4, 2025 10:30am
      - imalwaysright
        
        Can the substandard teachers not take remedial courses during holidays to make themselves employable?
        
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        November 4, 2025 10:44am
      - Nigel Kearney
        
        Not sure it is being “sold to the wrong people”. Primary teaching is a last resort option for a number of graduates in subjects with little real world relevance. No selling required.
        
        I am sceptical that “remedial courses” will do it. Maths and science require a certain amount of natural ability. An above average 12 year old is probably never going to learn much maths from someone with a BA in drama or media studies.
        
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        November 4, 2025 11:06am
  - Clyde
    
    I am aware of some student teachers at the Dunedin Teacher’s College – part of the wretched University of Otago – who had just completed a concentrated technology module and who were asked to describe a natural feature such as tides etc. One student who was just about to graduate said that the explanation of night and day was that because the earth went round the moon and the sun went round the earth, when the moon got in the way it was night time and when it didn’t, it was daylight. Another couldn’t operate a calculator because it didn’t have a “comma” key so she could work in 4 figure numbers. These are the sort of people being produced by these outfits and then they are protected by the Unions.
    
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    November 4, 2025 10:50am
    - kowtow
      
      The vast majoridy seem to be of the belief that a certain treaty is this nation’s “founding’ document , when it was merely a sale and purchase agreement with the Crown to forestall any chances the New Zealand Company had , to buy up even more land than they had already purchased.
      
      And most of those student teachers won’t be aware of the actual context of said ‘treaty”.
      
      Heck , Ardern as prime minister was totally ignorant of its very simple 3 articles .Despite relentlessly and undemocratically trying to amend our constitution in favour of Maoris , on the basis thereof.
      
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      November 4, 2025 12:05pm
    - rouppe
      
      …asked to describe a natural feature such as tides etc. One student who was just about to graduate said that the explanation of night and day was that because the earth went round the moon and the sun went round the earth, when the moon got in the way it was night time and when it didn’t, it was daylight.
      
      You have got to be shitting me.
      
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      November 4, 2025 12:13pm
      - Clyde
        
        Unfortunately I’m not. A month long module and this student didn’t even know about the most basic knowledge of our solar system – let alone anything beyond that. Most 5 year olds I know can talk about our solar system. The second student kept on inputting decimal points into her calculations because her calculator didn’t seem to have a comma. I would say that these teacher training outfits accept students who don’t have the most basic knowledge and honestly, if you don’t know by the time you are 18 that the earth goes round the sun, then why are they accepted? Because they can count to 10 in maori?
        
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        November 4, 2025 12:57pm
  - James Stephenson
    
    It would have been more practical to bypass them completely and just let people without a teaching diploma become registered teachers following an ‘apprenticeship’ in schools.
    
    Sort of like this then?
    https://www.teachersinstitute.org.nz/programme-details-secondary
    
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    November 4, 2025 12:17pm
- RoboRob
  
  Isn’t this all about the removal of a clause was talked about here months ago?
  
  She removed it from this section but left another clause elsewhere that has the same impact. She was criticised here for doing so. Now she is taking criticism from the other side from removing this clause.
  
  I’m a big fan of Willis but the messaging I have heard around this is wrong. She is saying, adding the clause didn’t improve education outcomes for Maori so I am removing it. She should be saying something like, ‘adding underfined clauses around a single ethnic group is racist, and can harm the outcomes for all other students, we need to be focused on education and getting the best results for all children not playing race games and trying to appease special interest groups’.
  
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  November 4, 2025 9:03am
  - James Stephenson
    
    Like it or not, the Government has obligations under the treaty (as it is now defined and interpreted anyway) when it comes to education.
    
    Ardern and Hipkins passed legislation that gave school boards the task of upholding treaty principles and Willis is now removing that legislation and leaving a set of clear instructions from the government which a) makes boards’ jobs easier and b) means the government is meeting its treaty obligations.
    
    HTH
    
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    November 4, 2025 1:31pm
    - RoboRob
      
      There is nothing in the treaty around education of Maori. Indeed the opposite is present, it gave Maori the same rights and privileges as British citizens. No more no less.
      
      Certainly the phrase, ‘the principles of the treaty of Waitangi’ has appeared in recent times. That is people interpreting, based on their world view, what the treaty should mean with regards to Maori in current times. However, there is NO legal definition of the treaty principles and the government has refused to codify what principles, if any exist. Thank you Mr Luxon adn Mr Peters. As such they are NOT bound to them and do not need to meet them, simply because they do not exist in a legal sense.
      
      Oh and no just because the Waitangi tribunal says x or y is a breach of the principles means nothing because they do not have the power to define said principles, also known as they can’t make law.
      
      HTH
      
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      November 4, 2025 3:23pm
      - leoj
        
        Luxon’s lack of support for the Treaty Principles Bill makes him public enemy number one.
        The country is fucked until and unless they stop the maori wave.
        
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        November 4, 2025 6:29pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      National is leaving it to activist lefties to make up what the imaginary “treaty principles” are.
      
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      November 4, 2025 5:48pm
    - Dougal10
      
      The funny thing is unions saying this will take education back 50 years , no wonder we have a problem teaching math , it will only take it back 5 years to when the covid queens majority allowed this kind of crap to happen.
      
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      November 4, 2025 6:42pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        I wish it would take our education system back 50 years. You know, when it was quite good.
        
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        November 4, 2025 6:54pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        50 years ago. 20% of high school entrants left at age 15 after two years, 50% of the rest got binned by School Cert. Much better than what we have now ….
        
        Or maybe that was 60 years ago. I lose track.
        
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        November 4, 2025 7:32pm
  - I remember when
    
    She should have said adding the clause was never going to improve education outcomes, even for Maori.
    
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    November 4, 2025 2:42pm
Chuck Bird

How many beleive that babies that are survive an abortion should be left to die? Thumbs up if you think this is wrong.

Born-Alive Abortions in NZ!

https://mailchi.mp/familyfirst.org.nz/breaking-children-born-alive-after-attempted-abortions?e=8630869020
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November 4, 2025 8:04am
- cmm
  
  … but it is just an inconvenient bunch of cells… like getting a haircut.
  
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  November 4, 2025 8:27am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Unfortunately that is exactly how some see an unwanted baby.
    Not getting pregnant would negate the need for an abortion.
    
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    November 4, 2025 9:38am
    - Sweet Hitchhiker
      
      “Not getting pregnant would negate the need for an abortion”. Sounds so simple and logical. Until you factor in the problems of youth. Youthful libidos, youthful fertility, youthful ignorance…
      
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      November 4, 2025 6:07pm
    - Ghost
      
      Not really. Some mothers have health issues that make them unable to continue the pregnancy. Some babies have issues that mean termination is the best option
      
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      November 4, 2025 6:17pm
  - cmm
    
    Isn’t that what the pro-abortion lobby tells us? It’s not a person. It’s not a baby. It’s just a bunch of annoying cells…
    
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    November 4, 2025 10:39am
    - G152
      
      Remind the proabortion lobby that they are also a collection of cells
      
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      November 4, 2025 11:00am
- rouppe
  
  If the doctors are prepared to do an abortion they should do it properly, and kill the fetus humanely.
  
  Doctors are prepared to do that with assisted suicide, so why not with assisted termination.
  
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  November 4, 2025 12:17pm
  - kowtow
    
    From the link;
    
    ‘Canterbury have previously advised that the “baby is wrapped in a blanket and held until it passes”.’
    
    As opposed to just leaving the little baby there …….
    
    Either way , what have we come to.
    
    ps Ardern was adamant that this was good legislation. A far cry from being “kind”.
    
    All lies.
    
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    November 4, 2025 1:05pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Ardern – ending child poverty.
      
      This is not what I thought she had in mind.
      
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      November 4, 2025 6:56pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Do you consider a baby that is separated from the mother, where the umbilical cord is cut, a fetus?
    
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    November 4, 2025 1:59pm
    - rouppe
      
      I’m not going to get into a discussion of when a zygote becomes an embryo becomes a fetus becomes a baby.
      
      There are sufficient options available at the moment that there is no real excuse for getting pregnant in the first place. Including the after the fact (up to 72 hours) morning after pill.
      
      But the law is the law, abortion is available. My only point is that doctors that terminate that life should do it properly, not leave it to die struggling.
      
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      November 4, 2025 4:30pm
      - Ghost
        
        After 20 weeks abortions have to meet certain criteria.
        
        Abortion Legislation Act 2020
        
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        November 4, 2025 5:36pm
- lifesgood
  
  Simply murder. Why aren’t they being prosecuted? What evil people to do such a thing.
  
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  November 4, 2025 1:48pm
  - Ghost
    
    What law are they breaking? You might not agree with abortion, but it is legal, the medical staff are doing their job.
    
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    November 4, 2025 2:21pm
    - Chuck Bird
      
      Leaving a baby to die is wrong. I am not talking about a fetus but a baby. It may have to be tested in court.
      
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      November 4, 2025 2:25pm
slightlyrighty

So Andrew Little is removing the fences around the Wellington Waterfront.

I guess having a Mayor that doesn’t wander around drunk after a night out is starting to pay dividends…
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November 4, 2025 8:04am
- Paulus
  
  He said it was the decision of the previous Council, not him !
  
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  November 4, 2025 2:20pm
Simon

Can race equality in education be achieved? For eg can NZ kids of European descent achieve as well as NZ kids of Chinese descent? / East Asia.

How does that work in practice. It isn’t a serious proposal but a dancing monkey clown act.
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November 4, 2025 8:07am
- kowtow
  
  I see te media reporting saying Standford will require schools achieve ‘equitable outcomes for Maori students’.
  
  Does that mean schools will ensure Maori pupils do as well as Asian ones.
  
  Anyway , why not drop all references to all races .
  
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  November 4, 2025 9:11am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Students who are children of economic migrants will probably always be above average. The connection to race is incidental and will gradually disappear in subsequent generations.
  
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  November 4, 2025 11:11am
  - Pope Punctilious II
    
    “The connection to race is incidental, and will completely disappear in subsequent generations?”
    Any evidence to back up that claim? Why then do East Asian countries like South Korea and Singapore outperform New Zealand ( and most other countries) in PISA scores? We don’t actually know how much of this is down to hardware (biology) and how much is software (culture, education system), but in either case your claim is questionable. Yes, the migrant motivation effect is real, but does it send the kids of Samoan and Tongan immigrants to the top of the class in NZ?
    
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    November 4, 2025 11:40am
- Paulus
  
  Perhaps they are taught by their parents that to get on in life they have first to achieve at a lower level to start.
  My local coffee shop owners have two children of Cambodian stock, via HK, who are both getting close to finalising their Auckland University Law and Business qualifications.
  Mum and Dad start every day at 5am to help them achieve what they came here for.
  
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  November 4, 2025 2:25pm
sungsamning

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2025/11/02/ted-cruz-has-good-guess-as-to-when-the-schumer-shutdown-is-likely-to-end-and-why-n2195776
Ted Cruz Has a Good Guess As to When the Schumer Shutdown Is Likely to End, and Why.
The Schumer Shutdown has been going on for more than a month now.
It started on October 1, and the Senate won’t even be able to have another vote on it until Tuesday at the earliest.
The extended shutdown is raising concerns, particularly about funding for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) and how it may be impacting air travel.
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November 4, 2025 8:13am
- RoboRob
  
  Cruz is a smart guy but his guesses are just that, he had previously guessed it would end after the no kings rally. However I think he may be right this time.
  
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  November 4, 2025 9:07am
  - JerJer
    
    You mean the no brains rally as they call is here in the US. I have been in the US for the last
    Month. I can tell you there are delays at airports and no one cares about the shutdown, at least no one I have talked to. I haven’t talked to anybody dependent on food stamps, but they are the democrats problem. I guess you get what you vote for, and these people voted for people that would starve them to make a point…and fail at that too.
    
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    November 4, 2025 2:41pm
  - sungsamning
    
    Yeah, I like TC too. The other 99 senators don’t. If he was found dead, they’d all be suspects.
    
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    November 4, 2025 6:39pm
sungsamning

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/11/dhs-secretary-kristi-noem-is-considering-hiring-private/
Bounty Hunter Time.
According to a leaked DHS procurement document obtained by The Intercept, ICE plans to outsource “Skip Tracing and Process Serving Services” to private firms, providing them with government data on batches of 10,000 immigrants at a time, with potential escalations up to 1,000,000 cases.
The proposal includes an “incentive-based pricing structure” with “monetary bonuses” for high performance, such as pinpointing a target’s address on the first try or successfully locating 90% of assigned individuals within deadlines. [Works for me.]
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November 4, 2025 8:13am
- Phronesis
  
  The best thing about this will be the left absolutely losing their minds trying to root out the traitors in their midst.
  
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  November 4, 2025 10:08am
  - sungsamning
    
    Yes, if the Trump administration was just funny; it’d be fun watching leftist meltdowns. Thankfully, they’re also effective.
    
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    November 4, 2025 6:40pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Issue Letters of Marque and Reprisal and let the ships used stop the smugglers and illegal immigrants on the High Seas.
  
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  November 4, 2025 12:20pm
mogg

So the BBC, that well known broadcaster of all things
Hamas, taken at face value, with no qualification given, has now been found to have intentionally spread misinformation about Trump, by splicing together tapes from at least two different speeches which were given at different times in different places. When pointed out the splice is very obvious and must have been known by all BBC senior management. They can now expect massive damages claim from Tump, he has done it many times before.
https://youtu.be/5L8DJZiLtJY
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November 4, 2025 8:16am
- RoboRob
  
  Stuning! I have heard this clip many times and I believe it was often played by the Dems in the US to prove Trump encouraged the riots. I can’t believe BBC did this and I cant believe it has taken this long for someone to point out that Trump never actually said this.
  
  Now we have AI editing it is going to be nearly impossible to know what is real and what is not. We will have to trust certain sources, the BBC isn’t obviously one that can be trusted.
  
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  November 4, 2025 9:23am
  - mogg
    
    TV one news repeats much of the BBC reporting,
    time to ask serious questions about their impartiality.
    
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    November 4, 2025 11:29am
    - Paulus
      
      Then TV one sends it to the Herald who pass it to their subsidiaries
      
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      November 4, 2025 2:27pm
- mandk
  
  I don’t trust anything the BBC reports, apart from the football scores.
  
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  November 4, 2025 10:24am
- Phronesis
  
  That could end really badly for the BBC. I wouldn’t put it past Trump to use all of the considerable powers available to him as President to completely destroy BBC news. He can’t do it at home, but a foreign State broadcaster could easily be a bargaining chip in any kind of State negotiation on trade / defence / almost anything. He may see it as an excellent way of making an example of the media, to the media, without the issues that would be raised with an independent US service.
  
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  November 4, 2025 10:26am
  - greybeard
    
    I hope that that “bargaining chip” is not made in China.
    
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    November 4, 2025 5:44pm
Simon

Mark Levin v Tucker Carlson GOP civil war. Carlson represents the new era will likely win.
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November 4, 2025 8:18am
- RoboRob
  
  Tucker is starting a new business and needs clicks and views. Sadly we know that the way to get views is to say outrageous things. Other outlets will play your clips and drive viewers to you. We have seen the same on the left too. Not good for either movement adn pushes coverage to the ‘crazies of both sides’. Destiny and being a good example of this on the Left.
  
  Tucker Carlson is a smart guy but he has totally lost the plot, especially over Russia and Isreal. Sad that he feels the need to spread hate and fear to get views.
  
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  November 4, 2025 9:27am
- RoboRob
  
  Further to my post above, Andrew Tate is another good example of people getting famous for saying outrageous things.
  
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  November 4, 2025 10:01am
Chuck Bird

This is a very well written article. The alarmists will not like it.

Pee Kay: How Much of Climate Change is Man-Made?

https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2025/11/pee-kay-how-much-of-climate-change-is.html#more
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November 4, 2025 8:22am
- David Garrett
  
  Chuck: Your views on what is “well written” clearly differ from mine
  
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  November 4, 2025 10:08am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    What is wrong with it, facts or grammar?
    
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    November 4, 2025 12:19pm
    - Jake Dee
      
      Paragraphs!
      There are many different ways of writing, and a blog post opinion piece is its own little genre, but reading a well written essay or article is like listening to a fine piece of music.
      Many different genres there too, rock, pop, classical, jazz but each part flows naturally into the larger whole.
      There’s no structure or flow here.
      
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      November 4, 2025 3:34pm
- mandk
  
  Not bad, but there’s not much that’s new in the article.
  
  It’s an established fact that 97% of climate “scientists” exaggerate and fabricate their findings.
  
  They need to do so to remain relevant and keep their cushy jobs.
  
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  November 4, 2025 10:31am
  - greybeard
    
    Could it also be an established fact that 97% of critics of climate “scientists” exaggerate and fabricate their findings ?
    They too need to do so to remain relevant and keep their cushy job.
    
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    November 4, 2025 5:47pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Meydaan
Buckaroo
Torranzino
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November 4, 2025 8:39am
- Flossie
  
  River of Stars for me
  
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  November 4, 2025 8:43am
- Luke Piewalker
  
  Meydaan
  Half Yours
  Valiant King
  
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  November 4, 2025 8:50am
- kowtow
  
  In Vic where the govt has just passed radical cultural Marxist ,pro indigenous legislation there’s to be a huge celebration across two nations of the sport of kings , a settler colonist construct ,played out on stolen land.
  
  Not to mention the horses haven’t given any consent to be bred and abused for profit of the rentier class and the amusement of the plebeians.
  
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  November 4, 2025 9:18am
- David Garrett
  
  Mags: which if any of those three is the favourite?
  
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  November 4, 2025 10:05am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Meydaan is my favourite..
    
    The bookies have Al Riffa and Half Yours as favourites (at 8am)
    https://www.foxsports.com.au/horse-racing/melbourne-cup/melbourne-cup-2025-latest-odds-who-is-the-favourite-scratchings-prices-half-yours-al-riffa-valiant-king/news-story/84e3686824232097d66173b2fe6d9d84
    
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    November 4, 2025 10:14am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Buckaroo didn’t work out too well, Maggy.
  
  Unless your sweepstake offered a $10 booby prize for last place.
  
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  November 4, 2025 7:15pm
Nikola Donatello

Typical Stuff article.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360874282/putting-lives-risk-mental-health-service-facing-closure-after-government-funding-dries

I honestly read this three times and I still don’t understand why this outfit has run out of money.

The journalist should have explained the contract betwen the mental health outfit with the difficult to pronounce Maori name, and the government. If the contract was time limited to, say, two years, it is no surprise that the contract has come to an end. There is clearly more to this story than is in the article.

Also some branding advice. If you want public recognition do not call the outfit “Whakamātūtū”. Make it “Wellington Depression Recovery” with bright colours and a few billboards.

Anyway, a useless article. Seems to be all about “blame the Minister”. BTW what happened to the billion dollars of new money for mental health that Andrew Little boasted about? Was it ever found?
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November 4, 2025 9:06am
- Luke Piewalker
  
  I see Tova O’Brien is back on Stuff.
  She’s taken a Press release and run it through an AI program to ‘write an article’.
  This is how stuff stay afloat. AI costs nothing to write articles.
  
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  November 4, 2025 9:32am
- Foxfour
  
  Yes It was ‘found’ and spent 92% of the $1.9 bill over 4 years
  
  The acute mental health beds part was stymied by the DHB inaction – part of the reason they got the chop, also by Little
  I know you are interested in such details so its here
  https://www.mhwc.govt.nz/news-and-resources/budget-investment-report/
  Part of the misunderstanding comes from the impression it was only for mental health as it was a wide umbrella with some initiatives vaguely connected to wellbeing.
  60% only being mental health , and $225 mill being cost increases.
  
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  November 4, 2025 9:40am
  - rjay
    
    I was a member of a DHB at the time. They Ministry blocked our plans to update our Mental Health wingcat every turn despite funds being applied. The Minister decided that the solution was to central use all decisions so that locals had no voice. It was this ministerial intervention that caused a further delay.
    
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    November 4, 2025 3:07pm
Scooter

Heather DPA is a good interviewer and commentator however her constant changing people’s names to shortened versions is grating. Dame Noeline Taurua is now Dame Noels throughout the item below, Chris Bishop is always referred to as Bish, Hipkins as Chippy, Mark Sainsbury as Sanso. What is she a 5 year old and can’t call people by their real names?

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/opinion/perspective-with-heather-du-plessis-allan-does-netball-nz-know-how-bad-this-looks/
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November 4, 2025 9:29am
- Albie
  
  Scooter, I happen to get a kick out of her referring to Hipkins as “Chippie” when she interview’s him. It is demeaning and not respecting his position as Leader of the Opposition.
  Labour invented this Chippie persona who wears wrap around shades on his head and eats sausage rolls. Now, no matter how seriously he wants to be taken, people like Heather are going to throw it back at him at every opportunity! Keep it going I say!
  
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  November 4, 2025 1:12pm
Local Miller

Any thoughts out there on the Maori invasion of the Poor Knights Islands? Despite their illegal landing, setting up a flag (later removed) and concreting in a carved pou whenua, there has been very little criticism or reaction from DOC, Police or the government.
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November 4, 2025 9:29am
- Nikola Donatello
  
  The islands are a closely protected sanctuary. If I pulled that stunt I would end up being charged and heavily fined.
  
  Unless they are charged, they will pull more extreme stunts.
  
  Also, I have no confidence in their assurance that they took steps to prevent the contamination of the islands. It is a myth that Maori had a good track record of ecosystem conservation prior to European settlement. It was quite the opposite. Modern conservative practices and ecosystem protection are a product of contemporary western values, and critically, of science.
  
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  November 4, 2025 9:42am
  - Phronesis
    
    It’s not a defence to point out that someone did exactly the same crime as you but was not charged, but it should be. We are rapidly heading towards the old communist model of everyone is in breach of the law but only enemies of the State get charged and convicted.
    
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    November 4, 2025 10:14am
  - kowtow
    
    ‘closely protected’
    
    Obviously not.
    
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    November 4, 2025 11:22am
- sirknz
  
  Everything they have done, and continue to do, just proves that their ‘guardianship of nature’ claims are just 100% pure bullshit.
  
  I am sick of all the lefties falling for the ‘noble savage’ fallacy. Maori are one of the worst things to happen to the ecology of this country.
  
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  November 4, 2025 9:58am
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    35 species of birds extinct betwen Maori arrival and late 18th century.
    
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    November 4, 2025 11:59am
  - kowtow
    
    Historically the claims had more likely been made , not by ‘maori” themselves but by the white , Wellington woke-ocracy .
    
    And now the grift machine has latched onto that.
    
    And why not .
    
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    November 4, 2025 1:13pm
- BananaLlama
  
  They only want it because it has value to Europeans. The moment we stop caring it will be fished out and the islands turned to gorse.
  
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  November 4, 2025 10:37am
- AitchW
  
  They’re behaving like obnoxious toddlers, deliberately misbehaving in order to get attention from the adults.
  Ignore them and they’ll go away!
  
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  November 4, 2025 1:30pm
  - I remember when
    
    Pay them and they’ll go away!!
    
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    November 4, 2025 3:17pm
Ghost

After being arrested he allegedly attacked an officer, braking their nose. Drugged or mental health i would guess

Anthony Williams, 32, has appeared in court charged with 11 counts of attempted murder over the mass stabbing on Saturday, and another attack hours earlier at a London station.

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November 4, 2025 9:31am
- imalwaysright
  
  “Drugged or mental health i would guess”
  
  Or he could be an evil fucker who needs a noose.
  
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  November 4, 2025 9:52am
- BananaLlama
  
  No fixed abode says it all.
  
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  November 4, 2025 10:24am
- cmm
  
  I hope he didn’t use disc brakes.
  
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  November 4, 2025 10:44am
- G152
  
  Name change I’d guess
  
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  November 4, 2025 11:04am
- Phronesis
  
  Quite a few earlier attacks which strongly suggests that a prompt police response to those earlier serious attacks would have prevented the even more serious attacks later. But I guess when stabbings are as common as they are in the UK it’s hard to guess who is going to go full retard.
  
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  November 4, 2025 1:34pm
  - Ghost
    
    The first barbershop report wasn’t made until 90 minutes after the incident. The 14 year old that was stabbed, police were searching for him, police dog was involved, he wasn’t located before he got on the train.
    
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    November 4, 2025 2:04pm
    - kowtow
      
      Fuzz apparently didn’t bother to turn up to the barber shop , albeit they took 90 mins to report .
      Media saying Fuzz said send us the footage .
      
      Oh well perhaps they were busy monitoring social media …….
      
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      November 4, 2025 3:44pm
      - Ghost
        
        As explained in articles, 90 minutes he was long gone. The second time they spotted him they were there in 18 minutes.
        
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        November 4, 2025 3:58pm
Notsofast

Chris Hipkins says (Herald)

“Māori kids don’t do as well in our education system as non-Māori kids do.”

As a reason to criticise removing the treaty from school board obligations.

This may be simply home environment, and phonics will fix this super fast, it already is doing so.

It is a huge advantage to have English as native language, it is used internationally in aviation and science as the means for stable communication.
Stop handicapping these hapless kids by pretending Te Reo will help them in the real world.
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November 4, 2025 10:24am
- Notsofast
  
  In the real world, a passenger is in Queenstown airport to catch a flight to Auckland.
  The boarding announcement is first in Te Reo, passenger switches off and does not hear it repeated in English, and risks missing the flight.
  Insane.
  
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  November 4, 2025 10:59am
  - kowtow
    
    In the real world announcements like that are for the benefit of the passenger / client/ customer/service user to communicate a pertinent message.
    
    In what is now Lala Raceland announcements are for the sole benefit of the govt/ratepayer funded organisation itself ,to signal their virtue to their paymaster , in order to keep the rort going.
    
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    November 4, 2025 11:26am
  - David Garrett
    
    Notso: Boarding announcements in Maori? Please tell me ur joking…
    
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    November 4, 2025 12:07pm
    - Notsofast
      
      Nah DG
      
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      November 4, 2025 1:09pm
    - Ghost
      
      English the last time I was there, and just looking on YouTube here is a video from a month ago, announcement is in English, don’t know why people make up shit that can easily be disproved.
      
      https://youtu.be/aC1aQia_V4E?si=C0ZgAv-DmaQ5n4EH&t=510
      
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      November 4, 2025 1:29pm
      - cmm
        
        Perhaps it is variable. Perhaps it is Pilot’s Choice. It was certainly Maori first last time I flew.
        
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        November 4, 2025 2:18pm
      - Ghost
        
        Boarding announcements are either made by airline gate agents or automated announcements, not the pilot
        
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        November 4, 2025 2:52pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Right because ongoing Maorification is not a thing. Come on! The uber self righteous and minority loony left are pushing this as hard as they can.
        
        Because something happened a month ago doesn’t prove it’s still happening now.
        
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        November 4, 2025 6:00pm
    - lifesgood
      
      Oh man, have you ever caught the Link Bus in Auckland. Every single bus stop is announced in Maori before then being announced in English. I look around the bus and very rarely see anyone who could possible be Maori. Often the bus is loaded with tourists wanting to go to Kelly Taarlton’s or Mission Bay. It is tedious, annoying, ridiculous virtue signalling..
      
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      November 4, 2025 1:58pm
      - Paulus
        
        Even Airline Pilots world wide use English – such as Chinese pilots as an example.
        
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        November 4, 2025 2:32pm
    - cmm
      
      It was in Maori when I flew AirNZ to/from Chch/Napier earlier this year in one of those ATR72s. Most of the people on the flight seemed to be government/NGO people riding on the taxpayer’s tit.
      
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      November 4, 2025 2:17pm
      - Taieri
        
        Most of the people on the flight seemed to be government/NGO people riding on the taxpayer’s tit
        ———
        
        How do you know that, do they wear some sort of badge saying that they are government/NGO?
        
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        November 4, 2025 5:49pm
  - Inandout
    
    Not, I presume the flight inormation board is still in English otherwise chaos would reign.
    
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    November 4, 2025 12:43pm
    - NeonTeepee
      
      They always travel in groups. The wimmen are wider than they are tall. The “ahem” blokes are skinny, frail and only there to do the bidding of the lead heifers. Lanyards, greenstone and smugness galore. The only thing missing is any sense of urgency.
      
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      November 4, 2025 9:18pm
- PurplePen
  
  Wasn’t Hipkins the education minister?
  
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  November 4, 2025 1:08pm
  - Paulus
    
    No, I think his Mummy was and still is a High Wallah in the Education Department.
    
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    November 4, 2025 2:33pm
    - MCōs
      
      No she’s not
      She works for NZCER, which is an independent research and development organization that is 15% funded by the government and has operated under its own legislation since 1945
      https://www.nzcer.org.nz/about-nzcer
      
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      November 4, 2025 3:37pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        She retired 3 months ago.
        
        https://www.nzcer.org.nz/about-nzcer/our-team/rose-hipkins
        
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        November 4, 2025 3:51pm
    - Nikola Donatello
      
      The “Education Department” was abolished in 1989.
      
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      November 4, 2025 5:48pm
      - Mike
        
        And the replacement Ministry has been a complete failure.
        
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        November 4, 2025 5:54pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        The teacher’s union and the far left therein have made education in NZ a complete failure.
        
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        November 4, 2025 6:05pm
Gravelroad

Something a bit different:
The person in charge of TV viewing here (not me) declared last night that there was nothing worth watching on the usual preferred channels, so embarked on a search.
Came across a rather unusual programme hosted by Sir David Suchet aka Hercule Poirot.
He was travelling in the footsteps of his creator, Agatha Christie, who visited NZ in the early 1930’s.
So we saw gold mining in Hokiteeeeka, a trip on the Cook Strait ferry, some mucking around on a freezing Wellington waterfront and a lot of hongis at many Maori tourism outlets.
Not sure how many of these Agatha Christie would have enjoyed or even taken part in during 1932.
All very jolly though.
Wondered what the point of it was.
Did anyone else see it?
Will have to see what’s on tonight – Inspector Morse in Invercargill?
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November 4, 2025 10:32am
- MCōs
  
  I didn’t see that Programme, but I did watch an episode of Mr Scorsese, which I found extremely interesting; followed by the tail end of The Chase NZ compered by the tiresome Paul Henry. It was like reading yesterday’s newspapers.
  Then there was a documentary about a conversation between a serial killer and his father ffs . . .
  
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  November 4, 2025 10:59am
cmm

Damn, the cops really are having a bad time with their few rotten apples.

Trust in the police is at an all-time low.

Falsifying evidence should be handled very severely. People could have, and likely did, end up imprisoned based on dodgy evidence.

People often say that those making false rape allegations should face the same consequences as someone found guilty of rape – ie a few years in jail.

I think the same principle should apply here. Police falsifying evidence on DUIs should get the maximum prison term for drink driving: 2 years.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360874463/police-across-nz-involved-falsifying-alcohol-breath-tests
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November 4, 2025 10:49am
- Callum
  
  They weren’t falsifying results, they were inflating the number of tests they had carried out. Still a sacking offence to me.
  
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  November 4, 2025 11:07am
  - rouppe
    
    My understanding is that they initiated the breath screening test function on the device. The whole screening programme is done electronically now, not just with paper records.
    
    So when the device undertakes a test, it digitally records the GPS location, the date and time and the reading. These are collated.
    
    It was found by a new monitoring programme looking for trends and discovering from the GPS data that some tests were being undertaken while the device was travelling at 50kph. Clearly the individual just drove down the road, stuck the device out the window and took a reading to simulate a person blowing.
    
    Which is falsifying results.
    
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    November 4, 2025 12:40pm
    - Callum
      
      Let me clarify that, they weren’t falsifying evidence. No one was prosecuted from any of these tests because they weren’t testing anyone.
      
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      November 4, 2025 12:58pm
    - Colville
      
      So this is Cops upping the number of tests “done” to hit KPIs?
      
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      November 4, 2025 1:42pm
      - Christopher Thomson
        
        That’s one possibility.
        
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        November 4, 2025 4:11pm
      - rouppe
        
        Allegedly not, because the number of tests conducted over the relevant period exceeded the contracted volume by more than the dodgy tests.
        
        I’m sure one of the first questions asked of the constables in question will be along the lines of “what the fuck were you thinking?”.
        
        Whether we hear the answer to that is less certain.
        
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        November 4, 2025 4:37pm
  - JamesP
    
    On the details released so far you can’t even be sure it was a deliberate ploy to raise the number of tests. They are looking at 120+ officers over a period of 14 around months (say 200 working days). Now imagine each officer pushed the button on their machine, once a shift, just to make sure it was working before leaving the station. Presto, 24K “false” negative tests (of the 30K they are investigating) but essentially no individual dishonesty.
    
    Of course there might be a few officers sitting at a desk, pushing the button multiple times a shift to inflate the stats. But I’m waiting for more info to come out.
    
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    November 4, 2025 12:42pm
  - jonno1
    
    Frustratingly, the article provided zero explanation of the alleged falsification, ie whether cmm’s version or yours. If the latter, did this involve repeated recorded tests of a sober individual? Otherwise the machine count wouldn’t match the reported number.
    
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    November 4, 2025 12:55pm
- G152
  
  Been going a while police fabricating evidence and planting evidence…
  
  Arthur Alan Thomas comes to mind
  
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  November 4, 2025 11:07am
- cmm
  
  Bottom line is that this is supposed to be a reasonably secure system with a chain of evidence used to convict people to prison sentences.
  
  Having cops play silly buggers with this system undermines the credibility of all DUI tests.
  
  We’re talking about 120 cops having been identified to have been doing this so far. That’s a considerable number of “rotten apples” bobbing in the barrel.
  
  This ONLY came to light because there are some cross checks in the system that the cops were unaware of. This begs the questions:
  * What other evidence are they tampering with but have not been detected or cannot be detected?
  * What other short cuts are they taking?
  * What other statistics are they tampering with to make the numbers look good?
  
  The cops need to treat this very seriously and set an example here. Confidence is dropping and they need to do something to rebuild trust.
  
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  November 4, 2025 1:47pm
  - Christopher Thomson
    
    Nobody was ever being framed.
    
    As already stated it is an anomoly in the number of tests.
    
    NOBODY has been to court over this.
    
    When taking into consideration the dishonesty of the media and the desire for a headline there is probably nothing to the story.
    
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    November 4, 2025 4:15pm
cmm

Christchurch has all but given up on dealing with homelessness.

I regularly travel past two areas where people have taken to car camping and such: Lychgate Close and Wetlands Grove.

Until maybe 2 months ago there were just a few campervans and car campers. Since then the numbers have perhaps doubled and there are people in tents too.

The Wetlands Grove site even has portaloos.

Clearly we need to think differently about accommodation. I think alternative accommodation is sorely needed. Camping in tents is fine (my family lived in a tent for 2 to 3 months when we were “between houses” in 2013), but it needs a bit more infrastructure around it.

I think we need to have some grown-up thinking around building some camp grounds and/or trailer parks with proper facilities. The Red Zoned areas of Christchurch would seem a reasonable place to do this.
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November 4, 2025 11:05am
- NZer In Exile
  
  Simple and basic but sturdy housing with second hand furniture in it. Provide cheap power (burn NZ’s abundant coal) to warm the places in winter. Except for those so disabled they can not work, a deposit must be saved for by working. No freebies. Add tough zero-tolerance and “broken-windows” policing with only large and clean (no crim backgrounds) hard-men on the front line.
  
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  November 4, 2025 6:13pm
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    No government or council agency is going to burn coal. Not unless parliament repeals the Zero Carbon Act.
    
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    November 4, 2025 9:16pm
Ghost

Might have to watch the start of question time today

Article

Te Pāti Māori co-leader Rawiri Waititi says he is mounting evidence against two “rogue” MPs, who he says tried to roll him and Debbie Ngarewa-Packer earlier this year.

The party is embroiled in an internal conflict which escalated on Monday when Te Pāti Māori president John Tamihere called on Te Tai Tonga MP Tākuta Ferris and Te Tai Tokerau MP Mariameno Kapa-Kingi to resign
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November 4, 2025 11:35am
- Quail
  
  Ghost,
  No wonder ,keep rolling on!
  Those two add nothing worthwhile to the NZ parliament IMHO.
  However the adage “out of the pot and into the fire” is of concern.
  
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  November 4, 2025 12:43pm
- Boy Geoff
  
  Rawiri’s put out a statement effectively saying he stands with his Te hungawai
  
  Who’d have thought?
  
  Heh
  
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  November 4, 2025 1:13pm
- Dougal10
  
  Is the te tai Tonga a north island tribal name for the south island or the tribe that lives down here.
  
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  November 4, 2025 1:19pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Te Tai Tonga means the South Coast.
    
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    November 4, 2025 3:40pm
- AitchW
  
  How does this play out in question time?
  
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  November 4, 2025 1:33pm
  - Ghost
    
    I want to see who turns up, where they sit and any interactions between the two sides
    
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    November 4, 2025 1:46pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Are we allowed to turn up in the public gallery and laugh at them?
      
      Or is a contribution from the public gallery permitted only for selected attendees?
      
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      November 4, 2025 7:24pm
- cmm
  
  After all the TPM disruption of parliament it wouldn’t be far-fetched to expect fisticuffs.
  
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  November 4, 2025 2:08pm
  - Keith White
    
    Sell the rights for pay-per-view. Donate the profits to judges who stop giving sentence discounts.
    
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    November 4, 2025 8:49pm
Jack5

Did TVNZ or TV3 run the Panorama programme from the BBC “doctored” to twist Donald Trump’s comments at the time of the Capitol riots?

The Telegraph says:

A Panorama programme, broadcast a week before the US election, “completely misled” viewers by showing the president telling supporters he was going to walk to the Capitol with them to “fight like hell”, when in fact he said he would walk with them “to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard”.

The allegation is from a dossier on BBC bias, compiled by a recent member of the corporation’s standards committee.

The dossier said the programme made the US President “‘say’ things [he] never actually said” by splicing together footage from the start of his speech with something he said nearly an hour later.

Was this shown in NZ? If so when and where?
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November 4, 2025 1:54pm
- Swifty
  
  I saw that.
  
  The BBC continues to shower itself in shame.
  
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  November 4, 2025 2:37pm
- Conservatarian
  
  Speaking of US Presidents, [Mod – use proper names] was out at the weekend campaigning for the votes of factory settings Democrats in tight governor’s races in New Jersey and Virginia.
  
  He ONCE AGAIN repeated the “very fine people” hoax. As though people can’t find a video to see what was actually said.
  
  Mind you, I’d be off my game if my wife hosted a podcast where she expresses her distaste for me, and her disappointment at the people of America, at every chance she gets.
  
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  November 4, 2025 3:43pm
Swifty

That’s now three Green MPs, at least, who have flown to London in recent weeks.

And for what?

https://x.com/suitandtie9999/status/1985512291744563648?s=46

Such vile hypocrisy during what they claim is a climate crisis.

Rules for thee but not for meeeeeeeeee!
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November 4, 2025 2:36pm
- mandk
  
  Four legs good, two legs better!
  
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  November 4, 2025 2:54pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Just a warm up before heading for COP26 in Belem, Brazil
  
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  November 4, 2025 7:26pm
MCōs

He’s a song from sixty years ago everyone remembers
https://music.apple.com/nz/album/i-got-you-babe/1440891775?i=1440892124&l=en-GB
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November 4, 2025 3:04pm
Ghost

Easy solution to any hardship, don’t assault someone

The prominent Northland leader who admitted assaulting two women in Whangārei in September can now be named as former Kaipara councillor Ihapera (Pera) Paniora.

Paniora was first charged on September 17 in relation to the incident on September 15.

The 38-year-old barrister applied for name suppression, arguing publication of her name would cause extreme hardship to her and her whānau.

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November 4, 2025 3:50pm
- greybeard
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360875372/former-councillor-pera-paniora-named-northlander-who-assaulted-two-women
  Northland “Leader”: what crap ! she is not a leader, she is a typical maori BULLY: entitled, indulged, overhyped and forever on the public tit.
  
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  November 4, 2025 5:30pm
Ghost

Another day, another teacher…..

A teenage girl whose teacher messaged her late into the night, making sexual remarks about her body and outlining his own sexual fantasies, said she felt “creeped out and disgusted” by his advances.

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Suspended from teaching for a year
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November 4, 2025 4:58pm
Sweet Hitchhiker

Bloody hell! I get up from a nice sleep, race into the living room to watch my Chase… and there’s a blinkin horserace on instead! What’s the world coming to??
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November 4, 2025 5:14pm
- AitchW
  
  I guess you swapped one chase for another.
  
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  November 4, 2025 7:56pm
MCōs

https://x.com/assalrad/status/1985390206007328954?s=61
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November 4, 2025 5:58pm
RichardX

I’m not surprised this is being ignored by the Trump fans.

https://pc.blogspot.com/2025/11/trump-is-effectively-admitting-he-has.html
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November 4, 2025 6:56pm
Swifty

A lesson for Luxon:

https://x.com/thomassowell/status/1985477085503046066?s=46

Strength. Strength. Strength.
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