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NeverMindTheBollocks

Amid the story of an Aucklander who is contesting the ticket issued when he parked on (near) the berm when he couldn’t find a space in the park & ride was this little gem:

“Park and rides are very expensive to provide and operate, with a heavy subsidy from ratepayers for use by a small number of people,” said Andrew McGill, general manager of (AT) transport, network, planning and policy.

Whatever happened to being lauded as allies of cycling and heroes of the struggle against congestion, pollution and climate badness?

Talk about being thrown under the bus.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360912497/100-fine-private-plot-land-and-architect-battling-council
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December 11, 2025 8:01am
- Simon
  
  Auckland Transport set up by the Key govt with special exemptions from political oversight. AT a nasty, snotty, out of control busy body organisation that basically hates cars. So out of control they had to be reined in through legislation. Thanks National you were warned at the time. Just useless.
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:19am
  - sirknz
    
    “AT a nasty, snotty, out of control busy body organisation that basically hates cars.”
    
    I think you are holding back here as you missed out the fact that it is staffed almost exclusively by ideologues who do not practice what they preach.
    
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    December 11, 2025 11:16am
    - R
      
      do not practice……preach. Even worse they have no conception of consequences, nor how to identify what was a very bad decision in the first place
      
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      December 11, 2025 1:17pm
      - Paulus
        
        Sounds like both Tauranga Council and BOP Regional Council staff.
        Laws unto their very expensive salaries selves with highfaluting titles and importance.
        
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        December 11, 2025 3:11pm
  - Albie
    
    Simon-Drove into downtown Auckland along the waterfront today. What a cluster F! Bus lanes, cycle lanes (BTW no cyclists at all using them on a beautiful fine day), 30kph speed limits, only one lane for general traffic each way, traffic lights every 50m. Those lanyard wearing AT mofo’s sure hate cars.
    
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    December 11, 2025 5:45pm
- Flossie
  
  I thought they wanted commuters to use the train or the bus!
  
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  December 11, 2025 1:49pm
Cassandra

Miami has just elected a Democratic mayor, the first for 28 years. Her Republican opponent was endorsed by President Trump. One swallow and summer but this is a bit of a surprise which does not auger well for the midterms.
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December 11, 2025 8:01am
- Blog-aholic
  
  She’s a dead ringer for Peggy Burrows……Will Peggy be on Labour’s list soon?
  
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  December 11, 2025 8:07am
- Wandering Star
  
  Hard to say is there’s a causal effect, but if so, it suggests that it’s simply not good enough for Republicans/Trump just to be in office for its own sake- they’ve also got to make the lives of their voters tangibly better, which they never seem to do. They’re always too busy propping up questionable overseas regimes and failing to follow through on other pre-election promises. Say what you will about Democrats, but at a minimum they do things for the people who actually vote for them.
  
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  December 11, 2025 8:10am
  - leoj
    
    Meanwhile, cities like San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Chicago and New York are total messes.
    
    The Dems can’t organize a piss-up in a brewery.
    
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    December 11, 2025 9:40am
    - Paulus
      
      Why don’t you include the New Zealand Labour Party too.
      Today one rag gave the Labour Party Finance person an opportunity to say how she and Labour would sort out the New Zealand economy and how they are going to do it, by just taxing everything that they make to move.
      Nowhere does she even comment that New Zealand is in the serious poop as a result of her previous Government, of which she was a Minister, of Ardern, Robertson, and Chippy who can’t wait to go on holiday for many weeks.
      
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      December 11, 2025 11:16am
    - Wandering Star
      
      “The Dems can’t organize a piss-up in a brewery.”
      
      True, but this makes the impending defeat they will hand to the GOP even worse for the GOP. People would rather vote for an utterly useless Democrat party than vote GOP.
      
      Ultimately, the system is so corrupt and lacking all credibility that the voters are checking out. America is in very serious trouble.
      
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      December 11, 2025 2:18pm
- Dudley Quaffquaff
  
  Why is that a surprise? Miami is full of heavily tanned, dark-haired people with Latino names, precisely the kind who are, at Trump’s direction, being violently abducted, imprisoned and deported without trial or proper process of any kind.
  
  Trump attracts the kind of people who want to see misery inflicted on people who aren’t like themselves. Leopards eating other people’s faces are all very well, but leopards eating my cousin’s face and eyeing up mine are a very different matter
  
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  December 11, 2025 8:17am
  - cmm
    
    “precisely the kind who are, at Trump’s direction, being violently abducted…”
    
    No they are precisely UNLIKE the people being deported.
    Legal migrants generally have a loathing for those that cheated.
    
    Think about it: If you’ve filled in all the forms and gone through all the processes to get away from some low-rent people, then the last thing you want is for those low-rent people to just enter the country illegally.
    
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    December 11, 2025 9:18am
    - waikatosinger
      
      In Miami the brown guys mostly come from Cuba. All brown people are not the same FYI.
      
      Florida is a big place with some Democrat areas especially in the inner cities. And the left have always done better in local politics than the right. Being surprised that a Democrat won the mayoralty in Miami is equivalent to being surprised that Andrew Little won in Wellington Surely New Zealand should be hostile to Labour since they lost the last election.
      
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      December 11, 2025 11:11am
      - Cassandra
        
        It’s had a Republican mayor for 28 years. This is a major change. Even The Spectator is musing that Trump risks lameduck.
        
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        December 11, 2025 11:21am
- All_on_Red
  
  Maybe. Florida has 1.4 million more Registered Republicans than Democrats
  Although Trump won Miami-Dade County by 11 points in the Election, he narrowly lost Miami, a city of half a million people that has a slightly higher number of registered Democrats than Republicans.
  So not a GOP stronghold and turnout was very low.
  Also she was County Commissioner for 8 years and had good name recognition.
  We will see next year what happens.
  
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  December 11, 2025 8:22am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Is she Mr Mamdani’s sister/cousin/auntie?
    He’s all the go at the moment.
    The new saviour of the American poor etc etc.
    
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    December 11, 2025 8:31am
    - Mike
      
      Does she have one of those suspicious un-American names?
      
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      December 11, 2025 8:57am
- Simon
  
  GOP crushed at mid terms.
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:19am
  - Wandering Star
    
    Yip. The second Trump admin has been a disaster, by and large. How bad do you have to be to be prospectively crushed by the Democrats, given how generally appalling they are too. As I note in a comment above, the GOP never does anything for their voters, only the donor class, and the diehard voters are finally beginning to understand this.
    
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    December 11, 2025 11:11am
- Steve Todd
  
  The Blue Wave continues to build. Harry Enten at CNN runs the numbers, to 3:45, then a panel discussion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7epXyNlJk0 [8:46].
  
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  December 11, 2025 11:33am
  - All_on_Red
    
    What happened to the ‘Blue Wave’ you told us all would ensure Aftyn Behn would win in Tennessee?
    No?
    Lol
    
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    December 11, 2025 12:33pm
Chuck Bird

Luxon is keen to follow Marxist Albo immediately with a social media ban unlike Seymour who wants to wait and see. However, Luxon is not concerned about kids being indocrinated with climate change alarmism in schools.

Climate Anxiety Is Taking Its Toll on Young People

https://time.com/7280989/climate-anxiety-mental-health-young-people/
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December 11, 2025 8:21am
- Philview
  
  The Greens are quite open in supporting a ban to “stop children being subject to disinformation and misinformation”. I was supportive of a ban for reasons of wanting children to have a healthier social balance but am now concerned that this appears to be about restricting access to political narratives that the Left don’t agree with.
  
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  December 11, 2025 8:31am
- Frank the tank
  
  That just sums up in one topic why under current leadership I’ll never vote National again.
  
  What’s the next plan pushing back the tide with a rusty rake?
  
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  December 11, 2025 8:44am
  - peterwn
    
    Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Chris Hipkins would be delighted with your attitude.
    
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    December 11, 2025 10:21am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      “Chris Hipkins would be delighted with your attitude.”
      
      Why if Frank votes for Act or NZF?
      
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      December 11, 2025 10:32am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Labour will be hoping you do vote for NZF, they think Peter’s is theirs
        
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        December 11, 2025 11:01am
      - JackRabbit
        
        If NZF or Act has no chance of getting their electorate MP across the line, better to vote National MP and party vote Act / NZF. But that will not be the same in every electorate.
        
        It is a strategy that must include ensuring that Labour, Greens, and TPM are kept out.
        
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        December 11, 2025 11:54am
      - JackRabbit
        
        @G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Winston belongs to the NZF caucus. If it meant keeping the terrorist Greens and TPM from getting at the levers of power, Winston would probably take one for the Team.
        
        Hipkins doesn’t even known what a woman is, was putty in the hands of Ardern, was mates with the trans dude, so he’d be putty if Chloe and her mates get to him, with TPM standing over him.
        
        By all accounts, Winston can’t stand the sight of Hipkins, especially as Hipkins and his team were responsible for the vaccine deaths of people known to Winston.
        
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        December 11, 2025 12:07pm
      - AitchW
        
        GG and he will be for bright enough baubles!
        
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        December 11, 2025 12:07pm
      - Nikola Donatello
        
        What are these vaccine deaths?
        
        Out of more than 14 million vaccine shots in New Zealand, there has been one confirmed death from the vaccine. There are two other suspected deaths. So that is three. Three out of 14 million shots.
        
        https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/safety-report-44.asp#:~:text=To%20date%2C%20the%20observed%20number,the%20Vaxzevria%20or%20Nuvaxovid%20vaccines.
        
        Are you telling me that Winston knows one of these three people?
        
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        December 11, 2025 4:05pm
    - JackRabbit
      
      Out of the frying pan into the fire.
      
      Could be compared with “I’m unhappy drinking Whiskey, it gives me a headache, so shove the Whiskey, I’ll take a bottle of Turpentine.”
      
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      December 11, 2025 11:51am
      - Paulus
        
        But when Winston passes I will go to his grave with a bottle of Whisky and pass it through my kidney’s first.
        
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        December 11, 2025 3:14pm
    - Frank the tank
      
      So stupid views are ok if it’s your own tribe?
      
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      December 11, 2025 12:31pm
      - keepcalmcarryon
        
        The partisan drones are droning is all.
        My vote will not go to my local Nat MP either because their party clearly does not share my values, neither will they get my party vote.
        
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        December 11, 2025 1:18pm
- sirknz
  
  Luxon is keen on whatever he thinks will curry favour with the Grrens and the MSM.
  
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  December 11, 2025 8:51am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He has gone out of his way to say the greens are a waste of spaces, and the original founding members would be gutted, he has stated there would be absolutely no point talking to Greens, watch question time where he disagrees with every question these fools ask.
    
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    December 11, 2025 11:03am
    - Paulus
      
      I wonder what the Mayor of Whakatane would say –
      Nandor Tanczos ?
      
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      December 11, 2025 11:23am
- Simon
  
  The constant harm directed at society by National is non stop. But meh fiscal deficit.
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:20am
- pdm
  
  The social media ban is Luxon’s baby. Catherine Wedd is only fronting it because rules prevent him as PM from doing so.
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:51am
- Scott
  
  I totally agree with the social media ban for children. I think it’s a shame that Kids spend all their day doom scrolling on Tik Tok.
  Plus there are bad actors targeting them with all manner of unsavoury content.
  
  So it’s a sound idea in my opinion.
  
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  December 11, 2025 10:50am
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    Really? Do you have any idea how it could be implemented? It would mean forcing Facebook to require ID from all existing customers in New Zealand and new customers. Plus all the other platforms.
    
    Can you think of another way?
    
    If that happens it is likely that these platforms would just withdraw from New Zealand.
    
    Further, even if it went ahead, all the kids would just use a VPN to become the resident of another country.
    
    So good luck
    
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    December 11, 2025 4:00pm
    - Ghost
      
      Facebook already have a process for confirming your age
      
      https://www.facebook.com/help/958848942357089/
      
      YouTube and Facebook are already removing underage Australians. Tick tock and Snapchat are implementing the age ban. X has said they will follow the law as well.
      
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      December 11, 2025 4:16pm
      - losingtheplot
        
        Australia law came into force this week, and they haven’t pulled out of the market here.
        
        It’s worth trying (even though it’s probably doomed to failure) as it sends a message that our society gives a shit about protecting kids.
        
        Otherwise, it’s all just blah blah blah. An endless circle jerk where the adults in the room mouth the right words, do nothing and act like they have no control over what goes on.
        
        Time to act.
        
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        December 11, 2025 8:48pm
- Positan
  
  Chuck, there’s this too. It reveals the climate bullshit touted to date is “substantially” flawed.
  
  “Nature” retracts heavily cited climate paper over fatal flaws, “substantial” errors.
  
  https://climatechangedispatch.com/nature-retraction-flawed-climate-paper/
  
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  December 11, 2025 12:13pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Thanks
    
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    December 11, 2025 1:17pm
- pb
  
  Luxon only wants kuds indoctrinated with official leftwing MSM propaganda. Globalist managerialist pawn
  
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  December 11, 2025 1:37pm
- Nikola Donatello
  
  What, precisely, are children taught about climate change in schools at all ages and across the curriculum?
  
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  December 11, 2025 3:56pm
Sacha

I remember finding my young grandson in tears “because all the whales were going to die” according to his climate-aware mother.
I had to do a lot of talking to relieve his worry.
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December 11, 2025 8:28am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Shell Lane (The Terrace) bike rack report:

At 8.30am, just the one bike today.

A cool, calm, dry morning in the Capital, ideal for cycling. Plenty of people around too; but they just don’t use this rack.
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December 11, 2025 8:31am
- Taieri
  
  they just don’t use this rack
  ————
  
  That’s because they are cycling…
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:51am
  - Don Beckett
    
    ……and want to rack off.
    
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    December 11, 2025 1:25pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Ha!
    
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    December 11, 2025 8:26pm
- G152
  
  Frankton station cycle free
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:58am
- [email protected]
  
  There are several ten wide bicycle racks in Whangarei that I have NEVER seen a single bike in.
  
  Waste of ratepayer money. Move them somewhere where they might get a bit of use.
  
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  December 11, 2025 10:00am
  - R
    
    Maybe relocated somewhere as hitching rails for horse’s
    
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    December 11, 2025 11:41am
- pb
  
  First thing an actual cyclist does is throw the kickstand in a bin.
  
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  December 11, 2025 1:40pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Beneath the veneer of kindness:

we are presented with the classic ‘do as I say, not as I do’ situation. She will talk about decency, but it doesn’t apply to her. I would argue, that those on the progressive left are very comfortable with violence (be this in word or action) when in the service of their views and ends. They will talk frequently about kindness, decency, tolerance, and diversity but these qualities only apply to their side of matters. There is to be little (or no) kindness or decency extended to people or movements that hold a contrary view.

https://onpointnz.substack.com/p/do-as-i-say-not-as-i-do
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December 11, 2025 8:33am
- Mike
  
  Nearly everyone is in favor of violence as the ultimate resort to achieve political, social or economic objectives. Pacifists such as Jesus, Te Whiti or Gandhi have never had their core teachings find popularity.
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:02am
  - Simon
    
    Yeah but! Left inflicting violence at the drop of a hat. Violence for the left is a feature not a bug.
    
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    December 11, 2025 9:23am
    - R
      
      not a bug……it is a habit!
      
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      December 11, 2025 11:43am
  - keepcalmcarryon
    
    Jesus only has 2.5 billion followers.
    
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    December 11, 2025 1:20pm
    - Mike
      
      Very few of whom eschew violence.
      
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      December 11, 2025 3:49pm
      - keepcalmcarryon
        
        Most people are non violent including most Christians.
        Bizarre attitude you got yourself there.
        [Mod – just debate the topics]
        
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        December 11, 2025 4:18pm
      - cmm
        
        Eschew is probably the wrong word to use here.
        
        Most (reasonable) people are non-violent. Most of those will, however, recognise that sometimes violence is the best option available and will use it.
        
        There are some that will talk of turning the other cheek, but most of them only have the luxury of that position because someone will step in for them first.
        
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        December 11, 2025 4:47pm
      - Mike
        
        There is no evidence that any religion is less warlike than any other.
        
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        December 11, 2025 7:27pm
- Philview
  
  Journalist Andy Ngo on his Substack put on a feed from the court case of Antifa members who tried to kill him. There were recorded conversations of young Antifa members hunting him down like a pack of wolves through the streets of Portland. It was chilling to listen to.
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:33am
Tom Barker

New Mexico’s biggest city Albuequerque has also re-elected its Democratic mayor for a historic third term, Chuck, beating off a MAGA-backed Republican challenger. And Democrats took all the seats on the city council. One is a very impressive representative of the Democratic Socialists of America. I have to say, it augurs rather well for the mid-terms.
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December 11, 2025 8:35am
- All_on_Red
  
  Sure….
  Heres the Voter Registration for Bernalilio County where Albuquerque is located
  Democrat 197,357 (45%)
  GOP 121,132 (27.6%)
  Ind 111,542 (25.4%)
  Its a Democrat County
  https://klvg4oyd4j.execute-api.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/prod/PublicFiles/ee3072ab0d43456cb15a51f7d82c77a2/8c4a35b4-ff07-4418-a817-0e9e323e7c2e/Statewide%2011-30-2025.pdf
  
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  December 11, 2025 12:28pm
lastmanstanding

With a bit of luck the Racist Party will continue to implode and their former supporters will drift back to Labour. The Nats are being wise in staying well away from commenting on the implosion although at some point they need to put the knife in and quietly suggest the AG and SFO have a good look at the various organisations connected to the Party. I know some work has already been done but I suggest a deep forensic audit would uncover corruption and fraud to drive off all but their fanatical supporters. The sooner this Racist Party is consigned to the rubbish bin where it belongs the better.
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December 11, 2025 8:36am
- H. Upmann
  
  This is the perfect time to dissolve the Racist seats.
  
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  December 11, 2025 8:49am
  - cmm
    
    That should have happened in December 1879. If it hasn’t happened in the last almost 150 years don’t expect it to happen under Luxon.
    
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    December 11, 2025 9:21am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    On a related note that of culture I have been thinking. If a person has 90% of bloodline English and 10% of their bloodline Eskimo does not their culture follow their bloodline. If so why do so many who have a tenuous claim to a Maori bloodline at best act if 100% of their culture is Maori? Are they as Bob Hunt my third form master used to say “Over Acting?”
    
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    December 11, 2025 10:05am
    - Paulus
      
      We are told that the last pure Maori in 1960 so what the hell are they ethnically ?
      Other PIs are from pure bloodstock but Maori are not in any way since then.
      
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      December 11, 2025 11:27am
      - imalwaysright
        
        Yes, every Maori person has non Maori ancestry. Most are less than 50% Maori.
        
        Makes the Treaty look a bit redundant…
        
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        December 11, 2025 1:18pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        As I have stated before, my Tuhoe aunty was 100% Maori, and she died in 1972.
        
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        December 11, 2025 1:29pm
      - Jethrod
        
        When would you estimate her last fertile years were?
        
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        December 11, 2025 4:44pm
    - Graeme Hall
      
      As Charlie Munger said – show me the incentive and I’ll show you the outcome. Subsidise sheep and you will get more sheep.
      
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      December 11, 2025 2:34pm
- Mike
  
  You think politicians should tell agencies who to investigate?
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:04am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Why not ?
    An investigation isn’t a prosecution, its an examination of the use of Public money.
    
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    December 11, 2025 9:20am
  - rouppe
    
    Isn’t the Crimes Act already an example of politicians telling agencies who to investigate?
    
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    December 11, 2025 10:19am
- cmm
  
  “With a bit of luck the Racist Party will continue to implode”
  
  Implode they might, but there is no conceivable universe in which they will go away.
  
  Like Greens, and to a lesser extent other parties, there is a core voter base that will not go away even if they set puppies on fire.
  
  Consider that more Maori continue to register for the Maori Roll all the time. During 2025 the Maori Roll number increased by over 14,000.
  
  Even if they crash out in the next election they will be back…
  
  Nor should one think that a bunch of Maori votes for Labour would materially move the needle. This would just add more influence to the Labour Maori caucus. Not a huge difference.
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:04am
  - mandk
    
    “Nor should one think that a bunch of Maori votes for Labour would materially move the needle.”
    
    It could wipe out the overhang in Parliament – i.e. the overrepresentation of the left.
    
    Would that not be material?
    
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    December 11, 2025 9:17am
    - cmm
      
      Good point.
      But that’s for one election, then they’re back in the game.
      
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      December 11, 2025 9:37am
  - rouppe
    
    Plus, they have inveigled themselves into many many institutions where they can continue to extract maximum public money, but we can’t vote them out.
    
    All those “partnerships”, all those unelected representatives…
    
    It really won’t matter if TPM leave parliament anymore.
    
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    December 11, 2025 10:23am
- artemisia
  
  PETER WILLIAMS: The Dysfunctional Maori Health Trusts
  
  A good summary, including references to some issues in the paywalled ODT article. Whether any reach the threshold for an official looksee, don’t know, but starting to be sunlight disinfectant.
  
  https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/peter-williams-the-dysfunctional-maori-health-trusts
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:12am
- Simon
  
  National too racked with white guilt to abolish the Maori seats. They probably as a bonus for National in some contribute to GDP.
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:25am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yeah it’s all Nats fault, Peter’s stated a bottom line to get rid of the seats, he reneged the minute he costed up to Labour and might again, yeah it’s all Nats fault
    
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    December 11, 2025 11:08am
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      It is all the Nats fault it used to be a policy but no longer for them.
      Open both eyes occasionally.
      
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      December 11, 2025 1:23pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/360911738/public-needs-protecting-indebted-luxury-car-dealer-judge-rules

There is $400,000 owing to IRD: maybe if IRD had intervened years earlier things could have been settled differently and many people would not have lost their money.

We see many such cases where IRD is owed large amounts, accrued over several years. The solution would appear to be obvious – IRD should nip things in the bud after the first default in payment.
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- cmm
  
  It is time to start charging people who do not pay PAYE and GST with criminal fraud.
  
  People that deducted PAYE from employees or gathered GST did so on the basis they were paying these to the IRD. If they did not, then they were gathering this money under false pretenses and then using it for other purposes (ie. fraud).
  
  Charge a few with fraud and maybe imprison a couple and this problem will go away.
  
  Just adding IRD to the creditor list is not enough.
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:27am
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    Courts would continue to be overcrowded as they are now !
    
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    December 11, 2025 11:29am
- Simon
  
  The IRD can’t really they are too overwhelmed. Tax in NZ is mostly self assessed, that is largely honesty system. That also includes paying tax debt.
  
  However people recently have learned they can just walk away from IRD debt if in a company.
  
  On the other hand tax is so overwhelming and govt wastes so much and all the lazy people on welfare some feel they can morally walk away from paying it.
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:29am
  - peterwn
    
    IRD can always contract the work out to debt collectors assuming that the Government will let them. If the company is late with furnishing GST or PAYE returns, then IRD can issue an automatic assessment which stands until the (non)taxpayer lodges returns and pays the money.
    
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    December 11, 2025 10:28am
  - Ian Boag
    
    govt wastes so much
    
    … pensions excepted of course 🙂
    
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    December 11, 2025 2:24pm
- RoboRob
  
  Its a major hangover from Covid. IRD were told to go easy on people during covid to prevent business collapse. Unfortunately Labour continued with its ‘hands off approach’ to IRD, Welfare, Housing and a number of other agencies. It should never be allowed to happen again.
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:42am
- Albie
  
  Sad ending to the legacy of his father Greg Beacham who built a successful business restoring and customising Mk2 Jaguars.
  
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  December 11, 2025 10:35am
  - Paulus
    
    Great Jaguar restorations in Hawkes Bay and sold internationally, but on waiting lists.
    
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    December 11, 2025 11:30am
  - greybeard
    
    Maybe his daddy’s success and reputation was the problem: sonny-boy tried to emulate him but wasn’t made of the same stuff.
    
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    December 11, 2025 3:31pm
Swifty

What a bloody shambles – and it never needed to be this way, transitions could and should have been orderly, well thought through and planned and prices stable:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/581471/lost-in-transition-the-businesses-trapped-by-new-zealand-s-energy-crisis

Instead we’ve had political leaders using this issue to score cheap short-term political points.

They have utterly failed us.
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December 11, 2025 8:40am
Frank the tank

Can someone explain to me why the relevant Ministry doesn’t commence a full scale investigation regarding Manukau Urban Maori Authority and the allegations? What/who is the relevant Ministry/Minister and why is there hand sitting here?
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December 11, 2025 8:49am
- Simon
  
  lol. National prefer the political fall out and rumours to circulate than actually account for tax payer money or service delivery of the MUMA.
  
  So much for proper governance.
  
  Remember comrades National are utterly hot garbage.
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:33am
- cmm
  
  Coz nobody wants to be called raaacissst, maybe?
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:38am
- pdm
  
  Probably comes under Goldsmith or Potaka. Neither of whom is keen on getting their hands dirty on contestants Maori issues.
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:56am
- pdm
  
  Contestable
  
  Where is edit today?
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:58am
- artemisia
  
  More importantly IMO is whether MUMA is meeting its contracted outcomes from taxpayer funding.
  
  Is it?
  
  If it is, does it matter who is appointed? Employment issues have existing recourse that seems to now be union assisted.
  
  If it isn’t, then Ministers need to step in and take appropriate action.
  
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  December 11, 2025 10:26am
- Paulus
  
  Cos its Maori who can do no wrong as it would be Tikanga !
  
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  December 11, 2025 11:31am
Maggy Wassilieff

An interesting question about a social services organisation.

How the hell does an organisation go from a modest three million in total income to a jaw dropping sixteen million in just a handful of years, without anyone blinking an eye?

https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2025/12/matua-kahurangi-muma-millions-where.html
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- Ruahine
  
  Maggy.
  Remember Arderns millions for Maoris (yes it is deliberately written that way) every time she opened her mouth during Covid. Many of us are still wondering where all the billions the Labour Gov’t borrowed went.
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:12am
  - Ghost
    
    https://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/data/covid-19-response-and-recovery-fund-crrf-funding-decisions
    
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    December 11, 2025 9:33am
- kowtow
  
  Treaty “principles” will do that .
  
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  December 11, 2025 11:23am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Now we have Treaty principals.
    
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    December 11, 2025 1:23pm
  - Paulus
    
    Stupid Palmer’s Treaty principles have been replaced by Tikanga anyway, and accepted by the Supreme Court after the sad Peter Ellis fiasco.
    
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    December 11, 2025 3:19pm
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E9KkvAsSrw
Trump EXPOSES Britain: The Secret Plot to Block Ukraine Peace.
In this episode, Susan Kokinda discusses President Trump’s recent national security strategy, which marks a significant departure from over a century of British-influenced American foreign policy. The episode delves into the geopolitical friction between the U.S. and the UK, particularly regarding their strategies toward Russia and Ukraine. Kokinda underscores the broader clash of worldviews between American sovereignty and British-led internationalism, highlighting the latest developments including reactions from Russia and European elites. The episode also examines the opposition Trump faces from both within the U.S. political establishment and British geopolitical strategists, and emphasizes the importance of maintaining political support to ensure the success of Trump’s transformative policies. [I don’t think this is from Conspiracies R Us. It sounds plausible.]
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December 11, 2025 9:09am
sungsamning

https://townhall.com/columnists/struanstevenson/2025/12/09/irans-currency-collapse-the-final-desperate-act-of-a-dying-regime-n2667561
Iran’s Currency Collapse: The Final Desperate Act of a Dying Regime.
Amid an orgy of executions and the accelerating collapse of its economy, the mullahs’ regime has driven the Iranian people to unprecedented levels of hardship. The latest plunge of the national currency to a historic low is not an accident of market forces, nor the consequence of global instability. It is the inevitable result of decades of plunder, corruption, and ideological fanaticism by a ruling clerical mafia whose survival depends on bleeding the nation dry. In recent days, the U.S. dollar smashed through the 1,250,000-rial threshold for the first time, shattering all previous records.
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December 11, 2025 9:10am
- RichardF
  
  And they’re running out of water. Will there be an uprising against the Mullahs?
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:37am
  - kowtow
    
    You’d think providing water services for citizens ( like the Israelis do , with desalination) would take precedence over making nuclear bombs , given how very ‘religious” the Mullah regime is ……..
    
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    December 11, 2025 11:22am
  - Paulus
    
    Power of the Mullahs assisted by the gun and serious murder by torture, will remain in Iran.
    
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    December 11, 2025 3:20pm
  - sungsamning
    
    We’ll have to wait and see. Teheran sans water will be a headache for the mullahs.
    
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    December 11, 2025 6:48pm
- Wandering Star
  
  Isn’t the main reason why Iran is an economic underperformer the years of hostile sanctions placed on it by the US which are, in part, designed to make Iran unstable and more easily regime-changed? Iran had few economic impediments when it was subordinate to the US and had a compliant government.
  
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  December 11, 2025 2:29pm
Jack5

This is worth re-posting, after I got into Kiwiblog too late last night for moderation …

Radio New Zealand’s annual report is out at last. The key factor is that it slipped into a loss, but then a “consolidated result” after revaluation of its property shows a positive figure.

If someone-like Ron Brierley in his investing heyday were looking at the result, he might buy the outfit, sell the land and give the rest away.

The result repeated:

Radio New Zealand’s awaited annual report for its latest financial year is out. The quick eyebrow raises will come from the salary list: 19 staff earning $200,000 or more a year, with the head honcho salary in the bracket $580,000 to $589,999. In all, 178 staff, or as RNZ calls them, kaimahi, earned $100,000 or more. Cash paid to staff totalled $44.6 million, up from the previous year’s $39.8 million.

RNZ reported a loss of $886,000 (softened by a $442,000 tax benefit) for the June 30 year. This compares with a profit of $7.4 million the previous year. Revenue, about 95 per cent from the Government, was down 1.5 per cent at $75.5 million.

However, a $33.4 million revaluation allows RNZ to report a bottom-line result of a $32.4 million gain, compared with $2.9 million gain the previous year. Page 102 of the result indicates $34 million in revaluation of RNZ-owned land accounts for the surge in reported asset value.

Get the report at the link that follows. It’s 178 pages long, but the numbers begin at page 71:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/assets/cms_uploads/000/000/522/RNZ-annual-report-2024-25.pdf
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- cmm
  
  Perhaps the writing is on the wall for RNZ so they’re just effectively doing an internal asset strip so that there is nothing of value left for the taxpayer.
  
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  December 11, 2025 9:28am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Looks like it is too late to sell the dog.
  
  Time to organise its euthenasia.
  
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  December 11, 2025 10:20am
  - Swifty
    
    Ben Couch MP used to reckon we should be looking after our own kids first!
    
    😃
    
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    December 11, 2025 12:01pm
  - mandk
    
    According to Copilot, RNZ’s asset value is $30-35 million, but I doubt if that much could be raised in a winding up.
    
    But not having to pay $67 million a year in operating expenses would be a good deal for taxpayers.
    
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    December 11, 2025 4:18pm
- kowtow
  
  ‘178 staff, or as RNZ calls them, kaimahi,’
  
  And therein a huge part of their problem .
  
  I suspect a huge number of moderately intelligent NZers who may have once tuned in simply refuse to be so patronised.
  
  or put simply ; Go woke go broke.
  
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  December 11, 2025 11:20am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Kaimahi translates as “food bill”
    
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    December 11, 2025 8:45pm
Boy Geoff

Have Chloe, Ricardo, Tamatha et al been approached for their take on Egypt and Iran’s opposition to an LGBTQI+ Pride World Cup soccer match in Seattle?
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December 11, 2025 9:40am
- MCōs
  
  Don’t you worry about their take.
  What’s your opinion?
  
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  December 11, 2025 10:16am
  - Boy Geoff
    
    As elected representatives in NZ’s parliament, I am interested in their take on numerous matters. I’ll provide my opinion in the ballot box.
    
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    December 11, 2025 10:22am
    - MCōs
      
      NZ isn’t involved
      Do you think our parliament should pass a resolution condemning the attitude of
      
      * City of Seattle
      
      * FIFA
      
      * Egypt and Iran Football Federations
      
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      December 11, 2025 10:48am
      - Taieri
        
        Why not?
        After all even our local council voted on support for Swarbrick’s Unlawful Occupation of Palestine Sanctions Bill. In favour of it as expected of course…
        
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        December 11, 2025 11:01am
      - Libertarians are right
        
        Actually, NZ is involved. Iran and Egypt are in our group and any fan anger/violence etc could break out against us.
        
        Also, this is the Greens we’re talking about. They love talking about stuff NZ isn’t involved in.
        
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        December 11, 2025 12:53pm
      - Boy Geoff
        
        Good point Libertarians.
        
        It must be time to bring John Minto in to arrange nationwide protests calling on the All Whites to abandon the World Cup for its inclusion of such Rainbow phobic nations.
        
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        December 11, 2025 1:52pm
      - Ghost
        
        No, we are not involved, and just as we want foreigners to butt out of the running of our country, we should butt out of this,
        
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        December 11, 2025 2:21pm
- plc
  
  The interesting thing here is that at the World Cup in Qatar in 2022, nations (and their supporters) were told that they had to be respectful of the host country’s beliefs, customs and traditions.
  
  Apparently that doesn’t apply to Muslim countries visiting the USA/Mexico/Canada.
  
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  December 11, 2025 11:22am
- imalwaysright
  
  Since their recent drop in the polls someone who can read and count has told them that their will probably be fewer places at their trough this time next year.
  They will be currently engaged in paranoia fuelled backstabbing of each other.
  
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  December 11, 2025 11:31am
Swifty

“The claims are baseless and politically motivated….”

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/indonz/581314/judge-deciding-whether-papatoetoe-will-face-rare-by-election

1. How would he know?

2. That’s exactly what Daljit Singh said before he was busted for voter fraud in Papatoetoe in 2010.

https://indiannewslink.co.nz/daljit-singh-gets-community-detention-224/
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December 11, 2025 10:11am
Ghost

The United States could begin requiring visitors from countries on the visa waiver programme to provide up to five years of their social media history.

There are dozens of countries on the visa waiver programme list, including many European nations, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Japan, Brunei, Singapore, Qatar, Israel and Chile.

Article

I think it will hit the usa briefly, then most won’t care
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- peterwn
  
  As it is, I would not even visit or even transit USA while Trump is in the White House. This sort of thing would further harden my attitude.
  The moral here would be to sort your ESTA before you confirm travel arrangements involving USA.
  
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  December 11, 2025 10:34am
  - peterwn
    
    Why am I being down-ticked for offering sound travel advice? [ Mod – just end it there].
    
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    December 11, 2025 1:45pm
- MCōs
  
  It seems to me to be a pain in the arse for everyone concerned.
  The yanks will use the information selectively against anyone whose jib airport immigration don’t like the cut of.
  My son has a Maori friend who has lived in Washington DC for ten years plus due to his ex wife and his kids being American.
  If he left the country there’s a good chance he wouldn’t be allowed back in again
  
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  December 11, 2025 10:39am
  - MCōs
    
    I read yesterday that someone was refused entry into Thailand at the Bangkok Airport because they didn’t have the equivalent of something like a couple of thousand dollars on them, which is a requirement I was unaware of all the times I’ve passed through immigration.
    Nobody commenting on the article knew either. It’s just something they can pull out when they don’t like someone.
    I suspect this social media requirement in the states will be similar to keep aliens subdued.
    
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    December 11, 2025 3:10pm
    - cmm
      
      My mother was denied entry into NZ back in 2003 or so until I presented a letter that guaranteed to support her while she was here.
      
      Such requirements are common especially for older people.
      
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      December 11, 2025 4:37pm
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        I would suggest NZ is a bit more straight up and down than Thailand when it comes to the use of these restrictions
        
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        December 11, 2025 6:23pm
- Taieri
  
  provide up to five years of their social media history
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  Would be very difficult for the Luddites like myself who have no social media history at all…
  
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  December 11, 2025 11:02am
  - MCōs
    
    Well you’ve got your Kiwiblog comments
    Does that count?
    I’m not sure how using a nom de plume let’s one off the hook because most of the wild stuff on the internet is disguised that way
    
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    December 11, 2025 11:52am
- [email protected]
  
  How would you (could you) even obtain copies of five years of your social media content?
  
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  December 11, 2025 1:58pm
  - MCōs
    
    Tell that to the officer
    
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    December 11, 2025 6:24pm
- Wandering Star
  
  Yes, not criticizing Israel on social media has, somehow, become an entry requirement. This might make more sense if not criticizing America was the standard, rather than a foreign nation, which is bizarre, unless you understand US politics.
  
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  December 11, 2025 2:35pm
- KKNZ2025
  
  US Constitution 1st Amendment
  “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
  
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  December 11, 2025 5:14pm
  - MCōs
    
    Tell that to the officer
    
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    December 11, 2025 6:26pm
    - Mike
      
      An officer who’s been told this year by the Supreme Court that he can detain people who look Hispanic.
      
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      December 11, 2025 7:31pm
imalwaysright

The whistleblower involved with the release of Health Department Covid data is in court today to see if he can qualify for the protection of the Whistleblower Legislation.

He (representing himself) and his associate were informed by the judge yesterday that it won’t be a public hearing and that it will be suppressed.

Doesn’t inspire confidence, but who knows…
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December 11, 2025 10:59am
Swifty

Fleur Fitzsimons has descended into the constant use of empty slogans.

She talks of National and the TPU gaslighting the country, but then throws out claims of ‘austerity’.

A total lie.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360912723/we-cannot-continue-why-ruth-richardson-says-nicola-willis-fudging-numbers

“They are out of touch” good grief, they’ve been using that line since the Key days.

We really should expect more from a Labour Party astroturf outfit.
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December 11, 2025 12:27pm
- Quail
  
  Suggest referring to Croaking Cassandra who has just made comprehensive comment on Willis vs Richardson..
  A good professional summation
  
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  December 11, 2025 5:49pm
Hugh Jarse

To be honest Swiftly that’s about all I do expect from an organisation that is rearward looking and still fighting the battles of the “old country” in the 19th century, highly performative designed to try and continue to part members from their hard salaries via membership fees so they can pass them on to the Labour Party.
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- Mike
  
  The PSA does not donate to political parties.
  
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  December 11, 2025 3:56pm
  - cmm
    
    One does not just have to hand over cold hard cash to donate to a political cause.
    
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    December 11, 2025 4:33pm
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      It’s an attempt at a red herring.
      
      As you allude, union members are Labour’s foot soldiers at party conferences, who buy their merchandise, attend strikes and rallies, manage petitions, man party stands, organise mail outs, saturate social media, deliver leaflets etc etc – all on Labour’s behalf.
      
      The fact that the PSA doesn’t donate to Labour is small fish.
      
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      December 11, 2025 4:42pm
  - rouppe
    
    He didn’t say “donate”. He said “pass on”.
    
    There’s several ways to do that other than an auditable donation.
    
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    December 11, 2025 4:34pm
    - Mike
      
      Please explain how the PSA exploits their members. You seem quite sure.
      
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      December 11, 2025 7:22pm
  - Swifty
    
    But their members do.
    
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    December 11, 2025 4:37pm
    - Mike
      
      Do you think PSA members lack aitonomy in their voting decisions?
      
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      December 11, 2025 7:24pm
  - Jethrod
    
    The cold hard cash you mention, may be right, but it would be tied up with subtle machinations by the committee that runs it, telling members what to do.
    
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    December 11, 2025 4:58pm
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      Please explain hows the PSA tells its members what to do.
      
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      December 11, 2025 7:25pm
Chuck Bird

This is just over an hour. It shows what use coal is besides generating power. Rare earths is one example. John Anderson, former Duputy PM of Aust. interviews Michelle Manook

Why The World Still Needs Coal | Michelle Manook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I8TS2kXd-Y
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greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360912723/we-cannot-continue-why-ruth-richardson-says-nicola-willis-fudging-numbers
Richardson, Clark and all the other ex’s should butt out: they are no longer part of the NZ political scene, paid or otherwise.
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- R
  
  Some of themthink that they are still relevant on the political stage.
  Grandma knows best !!
  
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  December 11, 2025 8:55pm
cmm

This is pure bullshit.

Man gets acquitted of his role in a manslaughter because he claims he was just along for the ride and didn’t know what was happening.

Who pulled the trigger is rather immaterial. All these gangsters got in the car for a common purpose and whether you’re the driver, the shooter or just spare muscle along for the ride is rather irrelevant.

If this eventuated in a shooting then treat them all the same. They all set out for the same purpose.

A gang member getting into a car with another two gang members to deal out some “justice” is not going there for book club. None of them is due any mercy.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360913039/crips-member-has-manslaughter-conviction-quashed-supreme-court
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