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Cassandra

Many on KB lament, rightly, the state of NZ’s media. The MUMA scandal is an excellent example of its bias. If it had been a different organisation and those involved had an affiliation with the National Party then we’d never hear the end of it. But Maori and Labour? Forget about it.

Every country has similar problems. Most are big enough to have a range of newspapers so they get left and right leaning approaches qv the Guardian and the Telegraph in the UK. TV is not quite so balances, with state broadcasters in particular consistently leaning left. That needs government intervention.

In the Land of the Free money talks and the USA is getting a shakeup in the form of Oracle’s Larry Ellison. I had a mate who worked for Oracle, a retired Lt Gen who was employed on the largest salary of his life. And note that the US pays a 3 star about $250,000 a year plus benefits. My mate confirmed the old joke about ORACLE (the last bit is “called Larry Ellison” and you can guess the a).

Ellison, partnered with Kushner, has put in an offer for Netflix. But of more immediate interest is that he’s bought CBS and installed Bari Weiss as the Editor in Chief.

NZ needs some rich person to buy Stuff etc and clean out the newsrooms. Newsroom itself is a very good example of an outfit purporting to be a newspaper but which is in fact just a vehicle for its bosses’ left wing opinions. It’d be better off calling itself a blog.
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December 16, 2025 8:01am
- Foxfour
  
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  Create your own little right wing media empire from scratch
  Ask Whaleoil how to make it a roaring success, and …other stuff
  
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  December 16, 2025 8:10am
  - Wandering Star
    
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    There’s plenty of genuinely “right wing” media content out there, you just have to know where to look. I’ve never felt the need to avail myself of Slater’s MOR tedium, which is really a dime a dozen.
    
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    December 16, 2025 8:15am
  - Cassandra
    
    I’d rather have something like The Times actually but thank you for the suggestion. You really do enhance this blog.
    
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    December 16, 2025 8:19am
    - Wandering Star
      
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      The Times? Didn’t such publications go out of fashion with powdered wigs?
      
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      December 16, 2025 8:22am
      - Cassandra
        
        It’s a good newspaper, WS. Try it. Or is ready, fire, aim still the plan?
        
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        December 16, 2025 8:53am
    - Yabster
      
      enhance // – FF must off had the day off yesterday- good knows how many posts.. is it his job…? As for WS all the bullshit antisemitic shit he spouts – not one post on the shootings yesterday- I wonder why….
      
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      December 16, 2025 9:10am
      - Foxfour
        
        Thats not true. Just untrue as well. I described it as heinous and nothing could justify what happened.
        
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        December 16, 2025 9:28am
      - Yabster
        
        FF read the post- was referring to WS
        
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        December 16, 2025 9:58am
      - Wandering Star
        
        [Mod – this mod won’t be posting anything from you in relation to what happened yesterday. Feel free to complain to DPF]
        
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        December 16, 2025 2:10pm
    - mogg
      
      ‘The Australian’
      
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      December 16, 2025 9:54am
  - cmm
    
    The only reason the left wing media is a “roaring success” is because it is fed from the taxpayer’s wallet.
    
    No doubt Whale Oil would do a lot better financially if they were fed numerous hand outs from the taxpayer’s wallet.
    
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    December 16, 2025 8:25am
    - Blog-aholic
      
      The most recent studies on the political leanings of journalists in New Zealand have found that a majority of journalists self identify as left-leaning which totally contrasts with the general population’s political spread. The most prominent recent study proving this is the 2022 Worlds of Journalism Study 2.0: Journalists in New Zealand which was (believe it or not) primarily conducted by researchers at Massey University.
      The key findings from the survey of working journalists include that approximately 65% of New Zealand journalists identified their political views as being left of centre, 23% identified as centrist and 12% identified as right of centre.
      
      We have in NZ a pretty much left biased media.
      
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      December 16, 2025 9:11am
      - Paulus
        
        What bias – that is normal in nNew Zealand in many recent years but has continued to get worse all the time.
        What is it with these people ?
        Just huge chips on their shoulder I suggest from birth as they did not get what they wanted, but they get huge salaries too !
        
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        December 16, 2025 9:23am
      - R
        
        Didn’t require a Massey University study to discover that fact. Just read, or listen to, the journalistic dribbling.
        
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        December 16, 2025 3:43pm
    - gravedodger
      
      Whale Oil was ended in 2019 replaced by BFD and then relaunched as Good Oil News in July 2024.
      
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      December 16, 2025 10:21am
      - igm
        
        Very well supported by readers and advertisers. Not like MSM who will be in trouble when PIJF stops.
        
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        December 16, 2025 11:11am
      - Ghost
        
        It’s stopped in 2023, only one role has funding that ends next month
        
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        December 16, 2025 11:15am
      - pdm
        
        Speaking of other Blogs what has happened to Martyn and The Daily Blog?
        
        Or am I the only one that cannot access it either on my laptop or phone because I got notification of being banned at 19.44GMT on Saturday.
        
        I now get this:
        
        `This site can’t be reached
        Check if there is a typo in thedailyblog.co.nz.
        
        If spelling is correct, try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
        DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN’
        
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        December 16, 2025 11:55am
      - Ghost
        
        Quick google shows a post on his Facebook saying temporary technical issues
        
        Didn’t pay his bill or didn’t want the backlash
        
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        December 16, 2025 12:01pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    “Create your own little right wing media empire from scratch”
    
    Sure. Funded by the taxpayer like the far left TVNZ and RNZ?
    
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    December 18, 2025 9:02pm
- Philview
  
  We learnt with the Herald that it isn’t that simple in New Zealand. One thing that came to national attention is that former Labour MP Michael Wood is Director of the Union that journalists belong to. There is something very iffy about journalists having such a political alignment and making a claim of impartiality.
  
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  December 16, 2025 8:20am
  - Foxfour
    
    Former national MP Simon Bridges is head of a business lobby, does that make it all iffy ?
    Michael Wood was never a journalist is the short answer to your weird claim. Et Tu is a mega union across many fields, service and food workers, flight attendents …Lol
    
    You may not remember Chris Bishops father, once the TVNZ chief reporter at parliaments press gallery. After leaving that job he became Chief of Staff for ACT during Prebbles time.
    Would you say that overly partisan post called into question his previous impartiality ? ,or was he good at the job !
    
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    December 16, 2025 9:36am
    - Philview
      
      Wood’s inability to sell a few shares as an MP does raise questions about his competence. NZ has a problem with left wing media bias which is clearly demonstrated when a major story about Willie Jackson doesn’t see the light of day in mainstream outlets.
      
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      December 16, 2025 10:50am
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Mega union. LOL. 55k members. And 2.8m employed NZrs. Unions these days are parasites. Junkets for their mainly inept executives.
      
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      December 16, 2025 1:36pm
    - Paulus
      
      Quite right – Michael Wood was never a journalist but it could be written for him by a lackie from the Union that he represents.
      Lets face it he never was any good as politician either as he proved it in many different ways.
      Am told to ask his ex wife !
      
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      December 16, 2025 1:46pm
      - Quail
        
        Paulus,
        River pollution his specialty?
        
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        December 16, 2025 6:54pm
- lastmanstanding
  
  I see Tova has been appointed to TV One Breakfast bringing even more balance to that programme. As a conservative I would be equally concerned if the MSM was dominated by conservatives. In a civilised society the media should represent all views. I would be calling for balance and that means more than just right and left. For me they are 2oth century constructs. In reality individuals have individual views on matters not just left and right. But of course the left want to shove everyone into their indentity pidgeon holes. Thats not reality and conservatives must continue to fight for individuality.
  
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  December 16, 2025 8:38am
  - Philview
    
    I don’t think I have ever had a conversation with someone about Breakfast TV. It exists but I do wonder who watches it. Even when I am not working I don’t wake up and turn the TV on.
    
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    December 16, 2025 8:46am
    - Paulus
      
      For Tova it is a job, and a stepping stone to the Left’s future in Aotearoa.
      
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      December 16, 2025 9:26am
      - R
        
        Daily Visual Exposure in preparation for her political career?
        
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        December 16, 2025 12:40pm
  - pdm
    
    Tova tore into the MUMA outrage initially but, obviously got stopped in her tracks either by Willie Jackson and his Lawyers or by Stuff management.
    
    Her effort reminded me of the old race horse joke – SF, SF, SF, SF.
    
    Started, farted, slipped and fell, see you , Friday Syd Fennell.
    
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    December 16, 2025 8:47am
    - G152
      
      It was Sam in my day 🙂
      
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      December 16, 2025 9:47am
  - Paulus
    
    Called I believe, Balance !
    
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    December 16, 2025 9:24am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Ani O’Brien wraps it up over in breaking views…..This is a real public interest story and it isn’t being told…..
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:06am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Indeed…
    Willie Jackson has long styled himself as a champion of working people, with deep roots in the trade union movement and Māori advocacy.
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    He built his political brand on defending workers’ rights and here he is stepping into a situation to shut down staff complaints.
    
    Like a corporate crony fat cat capitalist, Jackson next proceeded to derail a legitimate union effort and trespass the union representatives.
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    Labour has gone to ground and the union movement as a whole seems unconcerned that the party their dues prop up is engaging in dirty union-busting behaviour.
    
    https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2025/12/ani-obrien-whats-story-willie-jackson.html
    
    Bugga the workers.. BAU for Labour and its MPs
    
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    December 16, 2025 10:44am
    - pdm
      
      maggy – Duncan Garner had Matt McCarten on his podcast yesterday.
      
      Apparent 19 claimants from MUMA filed grievances with the Employment Court yesterday – out of total staff of 90 so methinks where there is smoke there is a blazing inferno.
      
      What is more Wee Willie Jackson is obviously `donkey deep’ in it and Hipkins is standing by cheering him on.
      
      It is also said to be before The Speaker.
      
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      December 16, 2025 12:11pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      The working class can kiss my arse
      I’ve got the foreman’s job at last
      
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      December 16, 2025 7:43pm
- Raphael
  
  Ellison, partnered with Kushner, has put in an offer for Netflix. But of more immediate interest is that he’s bought CBS and installed Bari Weiss as the Editor in Chief.
  
  Not an offer for Netflix.
  It’s for Paramount (which is headed up by Ellison’s son) to do a hostile takeover of Warner Bros., to prevent Netflix from getting it.
  Warner Bros owns CNN, so it would mean Ellison owns CBS and CNN.
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:17am
  - Ghost
    
    Time to spread a rumour that Netflix wants to buy tvnz
    
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    December 16, 2025 9:20am
    - sirknz
      
      Not even Netflix would want that.
      
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      December 16, 2025 10:47am
    - Paulus
      
      What for, other than to0 close it, and get rid of a so called competitor.
      
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      December 16, 2025 1:48pm
    - JackRabbit
      
      Time to spread a rumour that Netflix wants to buy tvnz.
      
      Buy it, and close it down.
      
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      December 16, 2025 2:21pm
  - Cassandra
    
    Quite right. It ts Netflix buying Warner, not the other way round. But my main point was Bari Weiss’s new job. Demonstrating what a determined billionaire can do.
    
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    December 16, 2025 12:21pm
- Paulus
  
  How can you buy something with less than a dollar and huge debts probably hidden ?
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:19am
- Albie
  
  I feel the problem is far deeper than the now openly admitted left bias of the majority of our MSM. A fear of vindictive action by Jackson and the consequences monetarily if he and the Labour Party return to office would give them pause when considering publishing any negative news stories that involve him or organisations he is involved with. OTH, Tamihere and the shenanigans at the Waipārera Trust was reluctantly covered because the only potential backlash was Tamihere’s threats of legal action and the enevitable accusations of racism .
  
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  December 16, 2025 11:37am
Scott

The murder of Jews at Bondi Beach is shocking. But in some ways it has been coming. The “globalise the initifada” talk which has been present in Australia and the West for some time, this is what it means.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2025/12/hanukkah-down-under.php

A father and son, the son born in Australia, took it upon themselves to kill the Jews. The son had been receiving teaching to be a good Muslim at Hamdard University in Islamabad.

This is what it means to be a good Muslim. “There is a jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:2926

We note that Muslims are taught to follow the example of their founder Mohammed. Mohammed personally executed many Jews following victory at the battle of Medina in 627AD.

I believe we have to face this honestly. What happened in Australia is just another event in a pattern of such events that have happened all over the world. And it’s not “racist” to point it out.
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December 16, 2025 8:01am
- Southern Raider
  
  There needs to be some immediate resignations across Australian Govt and Australian security services.
  
  It’s now being reported the two Bondi terrorists travelled two weeks ago to a Phillipines island that is internationally known for being a training centre for Islamist radicals and staging point for terrorist attacks.
  
  How the hell was this missed.
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:35am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Yes, there have been ongoing Muslim insurrections in Mindanao for decades. At one stage the Filipino govt had to mount a full on military attack against them because they had become so strong & radicalised.
    
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    December 16, 2025 10:23am
  - kowtow
    
    ‘Arf a mo , mate .
    
    Albanese has very quickly stated he’ll be reviewing gun laws .
    
    Visa/immigration settings , well, not so much.
    
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    December 16, 2025 10:37am
    - JackRabbit
      
      Albanese has very quickly stated he’ll be reviewing gun laws .
      
      Gun laws for licensed users will certainly put a stop to unlicensed gun use or put a stop to the broken systems that should have prevented the sale of guns to people on watch lists.
      
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      December 16, 2025 2:24pm
  - cmm
    
    “There needs to be some immediate resignations across Australian Govt and Australian security services.”
    
    Maybe, but….
    
    It is really easy to predict that such events will happen, but identifying specific people, when, where etc is close to impossible.
    
    Yes, likely they will throw someone under the bus as a way to demonstrate that they are “taking it seriously” etc, but, realistically, there is little they can do now that the worst of the likely offenders are now citizens.
    
    Any talking of sending them back to where they came from, etc etc is bluster. It just is not going to happen.
    
    People need to realise that once the problem is established there is no going back. You have to learn to live with it one way or another.
    
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    December 16, 2025 2:27pm
- NothingLeft
  
  Been thinking about this and general deterioration of safety and freedom to enjoy oneself without threat of violence in west as a result of islamic and african immigration. Euroepan Xmas markets are all but dead, as is safety for women on the streets of big cities, especially after dark. And have a simple question:
  
  Would these problems exist if women didn’t have the vote?
  
  Women’s preferences with regard to uncritical and indiscriminant empathy and generosity without checks or demands for good behavior from recipients are inevitably civilization destroying – from a simple economics/game-theory perspective. Both in the awful societal problems from uncivilized and non-integrating immigrants and also in the rapidly growing parasitical welfare dependents who all vote for ever more of the same. Demand (welfare parasitism and criminality) grows inexorably when there is no price to pay, as women in general seem inclined to set things up. Eg Greens/Te Racists and Labour are the female dominant end of politics, and are to larger or smaller extremes intent on setting NZ on a path to social and economic destruction.
  
  The obvious and inevitable consequence of these actions is civilizational collapse into thuggish repressive autocracy seen in the 3rd world. Women won’t enjoy the consequent loss of freedom, yet keep on voting for the insanity that leads us there.
  
  As much as I hate the idea of not having the franchise for all, I no longer think western democracy can survive if women keep on voting their generous preferences in this manner. And the problem is only growing as electorally dominant women become increasingly decoupled from men’s leavening influence.
  
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  December 16, 2025 10:27am
  - Northshoredoc
    
    Is this a parody post ?
    
    It’s getting harder to tell as the years go by.
    
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    December 16, 2025 12:22pm
  - Paulus
    
    But New Zealand is now run by women particularly in the Public Services and the so called media
    – will that stop this radicalisation ?
    
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    December 16, 2025 1:52pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Solution: Stop mating with these woke airheads. Most of them make horrible partners anyway.
      
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      December 16, 2025 7:58pm
  - cmm
    
    “Would these problems exist if women didn’t have the vote?”
    
    Possibly not. Men have, generally, a very different risk profile and prefer kindness and cuddles etc.
    
    But it is a moot question. That cat isn’t going back in the bag:
    * Women are not going to lose the vote regardless of whether or not that would be a good idea.
    * The Maori roll is not going to go away (even though it should have been scrapped 150 years ago).
    * Indians, Muslims, and others, are not going to be deported en masse.
    
    Just accept that where you didn’t need to lock your doors 20 years ago you now need security cameras. Just accept that graffiti and vandalism etc will increase.
    
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    December 16, 2025 2:34pm
    - NothingLeft
      
      Sadly I don’t disagree, the form of our democracy won’t change significantly until govt finally falls and we all lose the franchise, our and other western countries will continue to slide into 3rd world shitholism on a pyre of left wing (feminine) ‘kindness’.
      
      Men have been evolved to be highly justice/fairness oriented, meritocratic and generally open/fair in their dealings with others of those they perceive as their in-group, expecting all to pull their weight. While more suspicious and disinclined to generosity towards perceived out-group ‘others’, because that’s what kept the tribe, village, state strong and their kids therefore safest. Those attitudes are what made democracy work well.
      
      Women by contrast evolved to be more amiable in going along with whoever the dominant power group were, with a bias towards empathy and generosity towards other women (so that they would receive it when needed too) and a welcoming attitude towards outsiders (to not die during or after conquests). That’s all well and good until they politically decouple from men and stop putting any consideration towards economic or hard nosed attitudes that need to be taken towards people intent on exploiting our societies generosity and instead prioritize emotional ‘kind’ takes on issues absent any thought to incentives created or long term consequences that will follow. Uncritical universally applied kindness and generosity seems lovely on paper but is long term inevitably destructive to democracy as it is ripe for ever growing exploitation by malign actors and parasites without any effective check on their behaviour or stop to their growth. The UK is now in the end stages of this trend.
      
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      December 16, 2025 3:45pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

RNZ reports that a Kerikeri hapu is celebrating the imminent return of a local pa site, saying that part of its importance is that it was the launching site for ancestor Hongi Hika’s start of the musket wars.

I’m sorry? Maoris are celebrating the beginning of the most genocidal war in Aotearoa’s history? Where the victims were all other Maoris?

No wonder no one likes Nga Puhi, including themselves. Perhaps they need some sort of indigenous ceremony of apology. I’m sure Jacinda would like to be involved.
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December 16, 2025 8:03am
- cmm
  
  “Maoris are celebrating the beginning of the most genocidal war”
  
  Wrong.
  
  It is the most genocidal documented war.
  
  There were no doubt plenty other genocidal actions that were never recorded because there is no Maori written language or number system.
  
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  December 16, 2025 2:36pm
- Ghost
  
  Here is an article if you want to understand the significance of this site
  
  https://www.teaonews.co.nz/2025/12/16/parliament-bill-set-to-return-historic-maori-site-in-northland-to-ngapuhi/
  
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  December 16, 2025 2:44pm
All_on_Red

Recently our Host blogged about the upcoming Chilean Elections and gave information about the contenders. This being a political blog some offered their opinions.
Step up our dear friend Fox Four who claimed; “not much chance of Kast getting over 50% this time”
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2025/11/change_for_chile.html#comment-3787736
Guess what happened…
‘Chile just elected Jose Antonio Kast as President, over communist Jeannette Jara.
🔵Kast – 58.2%
🔴Jara – 41.8%’
https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2025/12/15/chile-completes-the-swinging-right-trifecta-n3809887
F4 is wrong so often they should change their Nom de Plume to ‘Wrongly Wrongson’
Lol
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December 16, 2025 8:08am
- Cassandra
  
  Or perhaps he could find somewhere else? He is rapidly replacing milky as the red tick of the day.
  
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  December 16, 2025 8:21am
  - Mike
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Just a reminder that DPF expects commenters to give others the courtesy of using the correct user name.
    
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    December 16, 2025 8:31am
    - pdm
      
      Sensitive today mikey.
      
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      December 16, 2025 8:58am
    - Cassandra
      
      “Milky” no longer blogs here. He was affectionately known that way for years. Our host asks for lots of things including respectful debate. Instead we get lots of smart arse sniping from the sidelines by some.
      
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      December 16, 2025 8:58am
      - kowtow
        
        Ya think?
        
        I believe he still does post or snipe from the sidelines , in a very particular and inimitable style.
        
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        December 16, 2025 1:11pm
      - Mike
        
        For the less-informed Kiwibloggers, DPF cleaned up the blog years ago. Among other things, his comments policy asks Kiwibloggers to ‘give other commenters the courtesy of referring to them by the name or alias they use on this blog.’
        FYI, for various reasons, I have commented as ‘Mikenmild’ and ‘Mikenmildagain’. For a long time now, it’s just been ‘Mike’.
        
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        December 16, 2025 3:08pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Thank you for bringing that hotair.com post to our attention.
  Chile is another sign of an awful trend for the Left.
  “Joe Public has had enough of your excrement!”
  
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  December 16, 2025 8:51am
- Foxfour
  
  I did step up but I dont have a right of reply
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:39am
- kiwi_chileno
  
  ¡Make Chile Great Again! Kast’s victory is a a crushing defeat for the left and the moderate, technocratic, wet right. In Araucanía, a region tormented by indigenous terrorism, Kast beat Jara by 38%.
  
  Kast has pledged to expel 340, 000 illegal migrants, mainly Venezuelans (altogether, there are 700, 000 Venezuelans in Chile). He warned illegals to self-deport: “You have 100 days to leave Chile voluntarily. If not, we will stop you, we will detain you, we will expel you. You will leave with only the clothes on your back.” Kast supports regime change in Venezuela ”by reason or by force”, quoting Chile’s national motto.
  
  Javier Milei congratulated Kast: “One more step for our region in defence of life, liberty and private property. I am sure we will work together so that the Americas embrace the ideas of freedom and we can free ourselves from the oppressive yoke of 21st-century socialism”. Gustavo Petro, Colombia’s deranged President, called Kast a Nazi and that Chileans had voted for Pinochet. In response, Kast announced a new policy…free helicopter rides.
  
  Profiles of Kast
  https://www.latercera.com/tendencias/noticia/who-is-jose-antonio-kast-the-new-president-of-chile/
  
  https://archive.is/20251203175717/https://www.ft.com/content/248bb38f-8e3d-47f4-b0f7-1aa677842195
  
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  December 16, 2025 8:48pm
artemisia

Finally, IRD taking a hard line to (maybe) recover a bit of debt for we-the-people, debt estimated to total about $9 bill. A serious chunk of change.

Liquidations this year include a group of 45 sushi companies, not stated to be by IRD, though the article mentions almost all liquidations include a debt to IRD so chances are. Might be a dot or 45 to be joined there?

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/581905/inland-revenue-liquidates-nearly-900-companies-in-one-year
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December 16, 2025 8:09am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Nail bars and vape shops to follow? We can only hope.
  
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  December 16, 2025 8:22am
  - pdm
    
    Both are a dime a dozen in Hastings these days Bollocks.
    
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    December 16, 2025 8:53am
  - mandk
    
    I’ve always wondered how many nail bars and vape shops. especially the latter, are fronts for money laundering by the gangs.
    
    The vape shops are everywhere, and they are expensively fitted out, but it’s difficult to imagine that there is a sufficient market to make them all commercially viable.
    
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    December 16, 2025 8:56am
    - Hugh Jarse
      
      Along with laundromats and men’s hairdressers. The proliferation of these four shop types seems unsupported by demand of population growth.
      
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      December 16, 2025 10:05am
      - Jack5
        
        The increase in laundromats relates to the surge in small flats with no room for clothes lines (or car parks), and if room for washing machines, only small ones.
        
        Demand for laundromats is part of a lifestyle change.
        
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        December 16, 2025 11:24am
    - artemisia
      
      Nailing rogue nail salons: Fears over money laundering and trafficking
      
      MBIE compliance teams are on the case.
      
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/577910/nailing-rogue-nail-salons-fears-over-money-laundering-and-trafficking
      
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      December 16, 2025 10:46am
      - Jack5
        
        Some polytechnics had been running courses for jobs like nail manicures, but the kids were largely beaten out of jobs by chains importing labour from Asia.
        
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        December 16, 2025 11:26am
- cmm
  
  Recovery is way too late in the game.
  
  Change the law to require businesses to ring fence PAYE and GST that they have gathered and immediately pay these over to the IRD.
  
  Any co-mingling of gathered GST and PAYE with cashflow is problematic. When that money is then treated as a slush fund that is really fraud.
  
  Treat that as criminal fraud and put a few people in prison and these practices will soon dry up.
  
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  December 16, 2025 8:30am
  - pdm
    
    I doubt ring fencing would make a difference cmm.
    
    If it comes down to a choice of paying suppliers or IRD – suppliers will win every time.
    
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    December 16, 2025 8:51am
    - cmm
      
      The point is that GST and PAYE are not the company’s money and never were. The company just acted as a tax agent to gather that money. They should not put that money in the same pocket as earnings.
      
      PAYE could be paid through on payday. GST is a bit more challenging because GST is a two-way street.
      
      Many struggling companies that get into this mess are deliberately diverting the PAYE and GST they gather into their operational cash. They are gathering it under false pretenses. That falls within the general definition of fraud. Charge them with fraud and see them change tune.
      
      It is really the same as a lawyer’s trust account. Co-mingling of money held in trust would get you struck off.
      
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      December 16, 2025 9:00am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        I certainly agree re. PAYE. The business has a system that calculates salaries and PAYE (and KiwiSaver and student loan deductions etc); yet only the salaries are paid out on the day.
        
        In this day and age of computerised systems, there are zero reasons why every other payment could not be included in the same payroll run.
        
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        December 16, 2025 9:08am
      - cmm
        
        Yup Never, GST is a bit more complicated because it is a two-way flow (companies typically both pay and gather GST).
        
        But they could put the GST in a separate account that does not get comingled with business money.
        
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        December 16, 2025 9:25am
      - 70andstilllearning
        
        “The company just acted as a tax agent to gather that money.” – which for PAYE replaced buying stamps from the government to stick in a wage book.
        In the age of digital currency it is only a matter of time before some form of priority source transactional tax replaces traditional tax systems that are based on an antiquated “physical cash” money system. Nobody is going to like it, but it will happen.
        
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        December 16, 2025 9:55am
      - slijmbal
        
        @cmm – having a couple of small companies I can tell you that putting GST in a separate account is a right royal pain and would seriously affect cash flow unless it was the nett GST, which would require continuous calculation of one’s GST liability. Extra administration that is unlikely to make a difference to someone deliberately withholding GST (or PAYE) from the IRD.
        
        It’s much simpler – the IRD knows if GST has not been paid and needs to chase it more. It can also see when GST payments drop significantly as a signal someone is fiddling the books. Ditto PAYE. When this happens follow up. The amounts involved are significant and would likely more than pay for themselves. The deterrent effect would also reduce the occurence.
        
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        December 16, 2025 10:45am
      - Ian Boag
        
        GST can be a bit of a pain for people who import one or two largeish shipments a month. Sometimes when I had two (not all that often) , IRD held up the refund until I explained it …. I asked if they could make a note that I was an importer … There was an IRD office in PN at the time so I had to go see them ….
        
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        December 16, 2025 10:56am
      - Jack5
        
        Slijmbal at 10.45: …the IRD knows if GST has not been paid and needs to chase it more … [and] ..Ditto PAYE
        
        AI tools will allow IRD to keep closer watch, and pick up warnings more quickly.
        
        Are credit agencies keeping their customers fully and promptly up with the play?
        
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        December 16, 2025 12:26pm
      - Paulus
        
        Both PAYE and GST are in effect Trust Funds and should be treaed that way and regularly audited or shut down immediately.
        
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        December 16, 2025 1:56pm
      - cmm
        
        slijmbal et al: Yes, as I originally said, GST is a bit more complicated because it is a 2-way street but it is still relatively easy to reconcile.
        
        The vast majority of companies, but not all, are gathering more GST than they spend.
        
        Almost all accounting/bash book software can split out GST and it should be easy enough to keep a separate account that they pay GST into (or draw from) every few days or such.
        
        There really is no excuse for using GST to fund cashflow. That’s a bit like taking payday loans and is a slippery slope to getting into trouble.
        
        I run a small consulting business with very small amounts of expenditure. I just put all my GST gathered from customers (+ provisional tax) into a ring fenced tax savings account. Anyone not doing that can get themselves into trouble when the tax bill comes due.
        
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        December 16, 2025 3:31pm
    - R
      
      suppliers will win?……..more likely that the large screen tv purchase, holiday overseas or similar will win. This country has a Moral Compass issue problem
      
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      December 16, 2025 10:29am
Primary School Dropout

NZ Herald 16 December. Article quoting Albo as saying there was no evidence the shooters were radicalised, followed by another quoting the shooter pledge allegiance to Islamic State

Of course they are radicalised. Albo is orbiting another planet
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December 16, 2025 8:11am
- Foxfour
  
  Doesnt exist that claim on NZH
  ” quoting the shooter pledge allegiance to Islamic State”
  Its a different fake news site and even it only says
  “The men had reportedly pledged allegiance to the radical Islamic State group (IS)
  
  So a rumour spread by rumourmongers
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:50am
  - Southern Raider
    
    And then ends up a few weeks ago at an Islamic State style camp
    
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    December 16, 2025 11:41am
- Ghost
  
  Here we go primary school drop out
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/bondi-beach-gunman-pledged-allegiance-to-islamic-state/DQ3TFDZOJVEC3PV3FL5DVWTZ4Q/
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:53am
  - Foxfour
    
    ‘However, after a six-month investigation by the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (Asio), he was not deemed an “imminent threat” to the public.’
    So the pledge claim was unfounded.
    That sort of journalism is called ‘repeating’
    
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    December 16, 2025 10:50am
    - I remember when
      
      ‘Unfounded’ but now its found.
      
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      December 16, 2025 2:57pm
- Southern Raider
  
  Albo will be dancing on the head of a pin as his policies enabled this
  
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  December 16, 2025 11:39am
- keepcalmcarryon
  
  There is no limit to how much federal and state Labor are willing to reduce the freedoms of other Australian citizens to deflect from their own pro out of control mass migration and anti Jewish behavior.
  Every day Australians are due to be punished, it’s quite disgusting to watch.
  
  What happened to Australia having world leading strict gun laws?
  Turns out no matter what your laws, giving guns to known terrorist sympathizers is a really really bad idea.
  It’s said that the father was a non citizen who had an open visitor gun license for years with a son known to have ISIS connections. Some people in government departments should go to jail.
  
  Also criminal (or should be) is allowing and even partaking in blatant anti Jewish rallies under the guise of supporting Gaza as team Labor Green does.
  People concerned and demonstrating at mass immigration were demonized by the same parties.
  
  Expect no consequences for those responsible.
  Gaslighting Aussie gun owners it is.
  
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  December 16, 2025 1:05pm
kowtow

Today’s Herald editorial concerns the appalling Bondi attack and anti semitism.It talks of anti semetic chants in Sydney , London and New York after Oct 7. But ignores Auckland and Wellington.

It does tell us to speak out.

Such hypocrisy and indeed giving active cover to prominent NZ politicians , who also chanted “River to sea” and “globalize the intifada” and who have at every opportunity performatively donned the uniform of terror , those ridiculous scarves.

Nor is the question asked of why would a Pakistani who entered Australia some 30 years ago on a student visa go on to become , with his Australian born son , a mass murderer of Jewish people.
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December 16, 2025 8:16am
- gravedodger
  
  It may be the son was the extremist, he and the father attended a camp in The Philippines alleged to be an islamist training facility for wannabe terrorists,
  
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  December 16, 2025 10:57am
- keepcalmcarryon
  
  The media themselves have fanned the flames.
  
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  December 16, 2025 1:07pm
slightlyrighty

I wonder why Chloe and Marama have been quiet in the last couple of days.

I wonder if there will be leader’s Statements in Parliament today?
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December 16, 2025 8:17am
- pdm
  
  What do you know that we don’t SR?
  
  Give us a clue.
  
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  December 16, 2025 8:52am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    Given what happened at Bondi yesterday, I would expect statements from our party leaders prior to question time.
    
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    December 16, 2025 9:21am
    - pdm
      
      Thanks – never occurred to me.
      
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      December 16, 2025 12:16pm
- keepcalmcarryon
  
  Will the scarves still be there?
  
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  December 16, 2025 1:07pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360914362/executive-assistant-resigns-over-mayors-disregard-treaty-principles

“A copy of her email has been obtained by Stuff.”

Of course Stuff received a copy !
Stuff is the official organ for the woke, publicly-funded, greenstone-wearing, Labour and Green-voting lefties.

Incredible that the resignation of a hitherto totally unknown office worker has made the front page.
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December 16, 2025 8:25am
- Tom Barker
  
  That’s certainly a very eloquent and impressive letter she wrote. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
  
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  December 16, 2025 8:36am
- Northshoredoc
  
  I was thinking the same thing. How on earth is a PA’s resignation news?
  
  Pathetic.
  
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  December 16, 2025 8:37am
  - Foxfour
    
    When she wants gardening leave till the final day of work.
    
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    December 16, 2025 9:52am
  - Ruahine
    
    Perhaps Willy Jackson told Stuff it was O.K to publish the letter.
    
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    December 16, 2025 10:06am
  - AitchW
    
    Ugh. She sounds like a mind numbingly woke liberal Greenstone squeezer. The Mayor dodged a bullet there!
    
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    December 16, 2025 11:21am
- Cassandra
  
  And an immigrant from South Africa to boot. If she really wants one race to lord it over another then her homeland was and still is right up her street. Don’t let the door hit you on the back on the way out.
  
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  December 16, 2025 8:38am
  - Paulus
    
    Wasn’t Mandel jailed for 27 years in South Africa as a terrorist at the time ?
    
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    December 16, 2025 2:03pm
- grumpy
  
  Yeah I read that thanks. “Refusal to uphold principles of ToW”. You would think a reasonable reporter would have asked which principles she is talking about.
  
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  December 16, 2025 8:38am
  - sirknz
    
    “You would think a reasonable reporter would have asked which principles she is talking about.”
    
    All of them, obviously…
    
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    December 16, 2025 10:56am
  - Prince
    
    Hush. You must never question what the principles are. They are decided on a daily basis by the elites.
    
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    December 16, 2025 2:06pm
- Swifty
  
  She abhors racial discrimination in South Africa but applauds it in New Zealand.
  
  Right.
  
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  December 16, 2025 8:48am
- pdm
  
  Mayor McGrath I think I can find a few capable people that support your views to replace her.
  
  Happy to fill in for 3/4 weeks if needed while you find a replacement.
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:00am
  - cmm
    
    There are many such virtue signalling South Africans.
    
    I know some South Africans that never learned to speak Zulu and Xhosa where it would have been useful, but now learn Maori in New Zealand where it is useless.
    
    Being accused of racism is a big deal for South African whites and they will typically bend over backwards to prove they are not – even if that really ends up making them pro-Maori racists. Kinda like the was Germans try to disassociate themselves from Nazi history and will bend over backwards to not be painted in a negative light.
    
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    December 16, 2025 9:49am
- Dave
  
  Next election, she should run for mayor, explaining in detail how she intends to apply ToW principles.
  
  As for Mandela’s aspirational goals, how well have they survived?
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:11am
  - cmm
    
    Mandela’s “aspirational goals” were just said to charm the Western audience.
    
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    December 16, 2025 9:34am
    - slijmbal
      
      The only thing Mandela really did was apply some restraint in the process of ending of apartheid (many of the white South Africans I knew thought there was a distinct possibility of real violence) – otherwise he was ineffective and ANC’s nepotisitic kleptocracy went full on to this day.
      
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      December 16, 2025 11:52am
      - R
        
        So Mandela was really only a useful fool (tool) for an agenda
        
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        December 16, 2025 12:51pm
      - cmm
        
        The low level civil war within South Africa was never between blacks and whites. It was between different black groups competing for top spot when apartheid would inevitably end.
        
        Most white people – especially those who lived in cities insulated from the real world – thought that the split was along racial lines (white vs black). They were wrong. Media black outs and general insular activities meant that most whites seemed to think that the struggle was racial.
        
        In the last few years that lead up to the end of apartheid, there were tens of thousands of political killings as part of the power play. Almost all of those were black on black.
        
        Mandela’s group (ANC) brought tons of weapons into South Africa for their fight. That was not a fight against whites, but a fight against other blacks. This was not a “freedom struggle” it was a black-on-black power struggle. Many of those weapons later ended up in the criminal realm – though the borders are extremely porous and arms continue to flood in primarily from Mozambique and Zimbabwe.
        
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        December 16, 2025 2:57pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  Can she at least be asked to define the principles she resigned over not being upheld?
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:16am
- cmm
  
  I am no scholar of the Treaty, but it seems to me that the most fundamental principle of the Treaty is that Maori get the same treatment as other British subjects.
  
  Therefore, surely, the most important thing to do to be “Treaty led”is to treat Maori the same as white mofos.
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:33am
  - Foxfour
    
    Its good that you say you arent a legal scholar
    
    Those that are legal authorities say you can start with the three Ps’ when talking about treaty principles: partnership, protection, participation.
    
    https://teara.govt.nz/en/principles-of-the-treaty-of-waitangi-nga-matapono-o-te-tiriti-o-waitangi/page-1
    
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    December 16, 2025 10:02am
    - Taieri
      
      treaty principles: partnership
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      The word “partnership” doesn’t appear in the text of either, the Treaty of Waitangi or Te Tiriti o Waitangi.
      
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      December 16, 2025 10:27am
      - Swifty
        
        That’s because they’ve been recently made up.
        
        Conjured out of thin air.
        
        Like rabbits out of a hat.
        
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        December 16, 2025 11:20am
      - Foxfour
        
        Laws passed subsequently and judges say they are there.
        
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        December 16, 2025 12:47pm
      - Swifty
        
        The creation of the treaty ‘principles’ as a thing was purely political, and you are smart enough to realise this.
        
        Judges didn’t start it, politicians did (TOWA 1975).
        
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        December 16, 2025 1:39pm
    - PurplePen
      
      There now two operative Treaty versions. The Articles Treaty 1840, the actual signed treaty and the Principles Treaty 1986 onwards, an invented treaty based on judicially-developed “principles” of partnership.
      
      The 1975 Act introduced the phrase “principles of the Treaty”, giving the Waitangi Tribunal jurisdiction to consider claims that government actions were “inconsistent with the principles of the Treaty.” The “principles” referred directly to the meaning, value, and purpose of the three Treaty Articles. The word was tied to the Articles. It had no referent outside the articles.
      
      Two events detached “principles” from the Articles. The 1985 ToW Amendment Act extended the Tribunal’s jurisdiction to hear claims back to 1840. It recognised tribal structures rather than pan-Māori as inheritors of Treaty settlements, reviving tribes as political players and economic corporations. Then in the 1986 State-Owned Enterprises Act Palmer to allay Ngati Tūwharetoa fears inserted “nothing in this Act shall permit the Crown to act in a manner that is inconsistent with the principles of the Treaty”. The first reference in legislation to “the principles of the Treaty” standing alone, detached from the Articles, and Parliament didn’t define the principles!
      
      Then in the NZ Maori Council v Attorney-General decision, Justice Robin Cooke described the Treaty as establishing a relationship “akin to a partnership”. The court developed principles including partnership, active protection, and redress.
      
      Cooke said the relationship was “akin to a partnership”, not an actual partnership. The word “partnership” was then immediately adopted by the Waitangi Tribunal, iwi leaders, and government officials as if it were constitutional fact.
      
      This all created the “Principles Treaty”, an invention that justifies co-governance and has led to irresolvable conflict between a kinship-based polity and a universal democratic one.
      
      We now have a vehicle for continuous judicial and institutional development of new obligations. What began as addressing historical land claims expanded into a pervasive interpretive doctrine.
      
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      December 16, 2025 1:49pm
      - Swifty
        
        Well written and argued.
        
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        December 16, 2025 3:19pm
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  Indeed, and truly remarkable that stuff would “obtain” a resignation letter from a nobody who was hired by someone else for a PA role. Hold the front page! PA from a different party wants excuse to embarass new Mayor who beat their old boss!
  
  At least she won’t have to be made redundant now.
  
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  December 16, 2025 12:53pm
- I remember when
  
  A bit interesting.
  The required 4 weeks notice.
  Probably given outside of working hours even allowing for the meeting.
  Includes the 4 days of Stat holidays.
  Was she going to have to work on all of the remaining 16 days over the holiday period?
  
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  December 16, 2025 5:28pm
RockyJ

Can anyone help me with information on customary fishing zones around New Zealand?

I submitted an OIA request to MPI for data on the total allocation for customary permits by kaitiaki for the whole of New Zealand. This was refused on the grounds it is “not in the public interest to disclose” and “Maori data Sovereignty”. The Ombudsman has been no help. This is despite it being a requirement for kaitiaki to notify MPI of all permits they issue so the total data should be available.

However, MPI do set a budget of 4000 tonnes per annum for customary catch. I heard that customary zones extend for about 3% of the NZ coast. This would make their length in total to be 475km approx which would mean that if the actual customary catch is 4000 tonnes the rate of catch per kilometre would be 8.8 tonnes pa.

This would seem to be an extraordinary amount of fish and would make the claim customary fishing is good for fish conservation complete BS.

I would like someone out there to verify that customary zones do in fact comprise about 3% of our coastline.
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December 16, 2025 8:38am
- Ipanema69
  
  Ok when did you make the complaint to the Ombudsman about the refusal?
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:11am
  - RockyJ
    
    I should have said “so far the Ombudsman has been no help”.
    
    I submitted my complaint mid September. They responded two months later. They went back to MPI who stood firm. A final ruling by the Ombudsman may be coming any day.
    
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    December 16, 2025 10:35am
    - sirknz
      
      So is Christmas…
      
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      December 16, 2025 11:11am
Swifty

I wonder how widespread these sorts of views are within the NZ Labour Party and Green Party?

https://x.com/gnasherjew/status/2000588668663124478?s=46

The Jew hatred is strong in this one.
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December 16, 2025 8:43am
- Southern Raider
  
  Not just this one. Many on the left and Muslim influencers spreading it was a Mossad false flag event and the terrorist was actually an IDF solider who had served in Gaza.
  
  We then also had the stupid lady who turned up at the Bondi memorial yesterday to rant about Pro Palestine.
  
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  December 16, 2025 8:55am
  - Foxfour
    
    Many on the left ?
    Name 2
    
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    December 16, 2025 10:03am
    - Swifty
      
      Niko House, Jackson Hinkle, Max Blumenthal.
      
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      December 16, 2025 10:41am
      - Foxfour
        
        Cant find any connection for those
        
        Isreal has tried to blame Iran and Palestine and they were wrong Are they stupid too
        
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        December 16, 2025 12:50pm
Southern Raider

Albo seems to be following Jacinda’s playbook. Knee jerk a new policy instead of fixing the underlying root cause of the problem.

Australia already has strict gun laws and these weren’t the root cause of the massacre at Bondi. But Albo is taking the easy road.

The terrorists would have killed people with knives, the pipebomb they had or a vehicle if needed as the problem is their belief structure, radicalisation and hate. Gun law reform won’t fix that and hasn’t globally.

The real key task should be reviewing
– how antisemitism was able to build to a frenzy with calls for death to Jews at Opera House through to fire bombing of a synagogue and deli, but State and Federal Govt did nothing
– how Israeli Govt information was dismissed and even the Aussie spooks were ignored
– how a known ISIS sympathiser was allowed to to live in a house with access to 6 guns
– how a known ISIS sympathiser was allowed to train extensively at a gun range

But no Albo will do a Jacinda
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December 16, 2025 8:52am
- Foxfour
  
  You have confused two things
  The guns owner – the father- had no links to IS according to ASIO
  His son had no gun license at all and he was the one checked for IS connections.
  They dont connect the two.
  
  Having a gun club membership is essential for those city dwellers who apply for a gun license as you have to have ‘good reasons’ not just a whim
  
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  December 16, 2025 10:08am
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    Not confusing two things. Son is on an extremist watch list and lives with his father who is a gun owner. If the security service can’t tie these two together the need a new career.
    
    Also the gun club is crucial. How can someone on a watch list be able to attend a gun range. What killed so many people was a combination of 1) the high powered rifle 2) how accurate the targeting of victims was 3) how fast he was able to load the rifle. Those last two took a lot of practice.
    
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    December 16, 2025 11:46am
    - Foxfour
      
      Wasnt ‘on’ a watch list .
      
      Just investigated and noted as no concerns
      
      Youll have to ask the gun club about the son, as the father wasnt under suspicion.
      Father could have taught his son when out hunting or something. Its not like its takes months of practice
      
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      December 16, 2025 12:54pm
Southern Raider

Wasn’t picked up by our media but less than a day after Bondi a large group of Pro Palestinian supported tried to close down a Hanukkah concert in Amsterdam.

The motive around the attack at Browns University is also still unclear.

This is a global problem that the West won’t front up to.
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December 16, 2025 8:57am
- Libertarians are right
  
  It looks like it was a targeted attack against a leader of the Brown Republicans. The killer scanned the group, shot her then started shooting everyone else (most of whom were also Conservatives) apparently.
  
  So not anti-semitism.
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:35am
  - GJM
    
    So the report of “Allan’s Snackbar” is incorrect?
    
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    December 16, 2025 9:17pm
- kowtow
  
  In Ireland local politicians wanted to rename Herzog park in Dublin and their public broadcaster has been at the forefront of anti semetic Israel boycotts .
  
  This is part of “globalize the intifada”
  
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  December 16, 2025 10:43am
Swifty

Yesterday Foxfour repeated the claim that Israel has committed genocide in Gaza.

Here we have today a Hamas official blaming the Bondi killings on Israel for that same alleged genocide.

https://x.com/chalavyishmael/status/2000563626554294507?s=46

The Bondi victims died because of Netanyahu, apparently.

Sick, sick, sick.
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December 16, 2025 9:00am
- Foxfour
  
  Heres my evidence , a long list who say its genocide.
  
  Nothing justifys killing others for that, neither does the Koran say its permitted
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_humanitarian_and_human_rights_groups_accusing_Israel_of_genocide_in_Gaza
  Isreal its self was founded by terrorists
  
  It was David ben Gurions group Haganah who bombed a passenger liner SS Patria in Haifa killing 270 odd civilians were missing presumed dead
  
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  December 16, 2025 10:18am
  - Swifty
    
    An argument from authority.
    
    Thought you’d be better than that.
    
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    December 16, 2025 10:37am
    - Foxfour
      
      Pretty authoritative list
      
      And Israels founding by terrorists and their state sponsored terrorism since ??
      
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      December 16, 2025 12:56pm
    - Swifty
      
      I really shouldn’t bother but here goes:
      
      Like the words indigenous, racist, ‘investment’ (a Grant Robertson special) the left constantly changes the meanings of words to fit new political purposes.
      
      Until quite recently you ask a random 100 people what the meaning of ‘genocide’ is and they’ll reply the organised extermination (murder) of a particular group of people. And examples they will give would be the Jews in Europe, Armenia, Rawanda etc
      
      (Note the 1948 UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide as acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group.)
      
      What has happened in Gaza does not meet this definition.
      
      What has happened in Gaza is warfare.
      
      Every report I’ve read that accuses Israel of genocide manages it by changing the meaning of the word so that it’s much more open, more vague and doesn’t necessarily involve the planned destruction of a people.
      
      Just like assorted lefties and Maori grifters have done here with any observation of unequal outsides between Maori and Europeans automatically means the presence of racial discrimination.
      
      I’ve even seen claims that National are guilty of ‘genociding’ Maori!
      
      Thanks to the left and other Jew haters, the word has now lost all meaning. Just look at a Palestinian wrong and you’re guilty of it.
      
      Your claims are not supported by the facts.
      
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      December 16, 2025 1:33pm
      - Swifty
        
        *unequal outcomes between….
        
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        December 16, 2025 2:41pm
Ghost

This is actually a stupid post for trump to make. Rob’s son has been charged with the murder.

A very sad thing happened last night in Hollywood. Rob Reiner, a tortured and struggling, but once very talented movie director and comedy star, has passed away, together with his wife, Michele, reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive, unyielding, and incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known as TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME, sometimes referred to as TDS. He was known to have driven people CRAZY by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump, with his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump Administration surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness, and with the Golden Age of America upon us, perhaps like never before. May Rob and Michele rest in peace!

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115724141568860081
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December 16, 2025 9:07am
- Philview
  
  I scratch my head when I read stuff like that. Trump at times comes across as warm and compassionate and then makes these bizarre heartless comments on Truth Social.
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:34am
  - Swifty
    
    Agreed.
    
    I don’t know why he does it.
    
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    December 16, 2025 9:42am
    - Tom Barker
      
      He does it because he is a moron.
      
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      December 16, 2025 10:12am
      - Swifty
        
        A ‘moron’ who has won the presidency twice.
        
        And wiped the floor with Clinton and Harris in doing so.
        
        What does that say about them?
        
        Snigger.
        
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        December 16, 2025 12:13pm
      - Ghost
        
        Morons win elections, one did in 2017 and 2020…..
        
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        December 16, 2025 12:39pm
    - Foxfour
      
      ‘I dont know why he does it’
      
      Oh yes you do!
      
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      December 16, 2025 10:20am
      - Swifty
        
        No, I don’t actually.
        
        Why don’t you tell me?
        
        Please share your vast intellect on this subject.
        
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        December 16, 2025 10:36am
    - slijmbal
      
      @Swifty – I take the TDS elements of the media with a barrel of salt and agree with many here when it’s clear they’re frequently lying or deliberately misrepresenting Trump.
      
      However, I’ve seen enough extended clips of Trump to come to the conclusion there’s definitely something not right there. Whether it’s for show or he is definitely broken I have no idea but either way it scares me that someone with such immense power would probably be put in a quiet corner somewhere with such behaviour at his age if he wasn’t President and useful to the GoP and likely the best way for them to keep power.
      
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      December 16, 2025 12:04pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        […]. Whether it’s for show or he is definitely broken I have no idea […].
        
        This might help you decide, slijmbal. “Psychologist Dr John Gartner lays out the signs and symptoms he sees of ‘dementia and malignant narcissism’ in Donald Trump, and explains why he thinks the president won’t make it to the end of his term ‘compos mentis’.”
        
        (See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OtO-cypKmY [26:00].)
        
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        December 16, 2025 3:01pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Gartner is a partisan hack who is breaching Psychologists ethical standards like the Goldwater Rule when he diagnoses a person he has not met.
        But hey, its fodder for the gullible rubes and their confirmation bias.
        
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        December 16, 2025 3:38pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        This, just in, might also interest you, slijmbal—
        
        “David Rothkopf joins Joanna Coles [at The Daily Beast] to unpack a presidency stripped of empathy after Trump’s disturbing Truth Social post responding to the murder of filmmaker Rob Reiner and his wife. Rothkopf, the founder of Deep State Radio and former editor of Foreign Policy magazine, argues that this moment exposes Trump’s defining pathology: an inability to respond to tragedy without cruelty, self-obsession, and grievance. From mass shootings to corruption, donors, and a cabinet quietly hedging its bets, they trace how Trump’s personal brokenness has become national policy—and ask the defining question: How long can a political system function when it’s built around one man’s pathology?”
        
        (See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUYCwVvfC7c [42:25].)
        
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        December 16, 2025 4:52pm
    - Mike
      
      Really Swifty? He’s a nasty piece of work, that’s why
      
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      December 16, 2025 5:01pm
  - Groggy
    
    “Trump comes across as warm and compassionate ” In what alternate reality is that! he is spiteful and regularly uses demeaning language piggy, retard etc to try to shutup questions he doesn’t like. he doesn’t have a compassionate bone in his flabby body.
    
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    December 16, 2025 11:11am
    - Northshoredoc
      
      When he tries he can be very kind and personable.
      
      However, I don’t beleive that is his natural syle.
      
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      December 16, 2025 2:05pm
      - Mike
        
        He’s very nice when he meets the dictators he admires so much.
        
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        December 16, 2025 5:03pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  It’s an awful response that most Republicans have rightly condemned.
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:39am
- Ghost
  
  So, do the downvoters want to explain why they think it is acceptable to attack the victims of a murder. A murder carried out by their son, who is known to have mental health and drug addictions.
  
  If you think this is acceptable, do you also find it acceptable for people to attack the victims of the Bondi shooting?
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:55am
  - Lance
    
    Because they think Trump is perfect in word and deed. No matter how increasing pathetic and deranged his actions become, they dance on pinheads to reinforce how clever he is.
    Trump has to make everything about him, he is a malignant narcissist and that is textbook on how they behave.
    
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    December 16, 2025 10:19am
    - Philview
      
      The Left in America have been pursuing an insane political agenda (open borders, women can have a penis, defund the police etc) and Trump has pushed back against this. There is a certain rationality to his foreign policy as well that Europe should pay for its own defence.
      
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      December 16, 2025 10:43am
      - Lance
        
        So the fix is randomly arresting tourists and holding them for weeks in appalling conditions, forcing any and all tourists to provide 5 years of all social media and emails… yes all emails both personal and business, along with phone numbers of all your extended family members. Arresting anyone who isn’t white, trying to deport native americans and citizens FFS. Basicly the old WW2 movies of “show us your papers” anywhere anytime is becoming a reality.
        Tariff raw material the US needs and threaten allies. Fuck up billion dollar advanced battery manufacturing facilities etc.
        If this is winning, then the GoP’s reality cheque has bounced.
        
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        December 16, 2025 11:00am
      - Philview
        
        Lance, I know half a dozen people who have been on holiday to the US this year with no problems whatsoever.
        
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        December 16, 2025 11:21am
- virtualmark
  
  Trump operates in only two modes – flattery or fury.
  
  The need for flattery is because he’s a malignant narcissist. The fury is because he’s a psychopath.
  
  Here’s a fun exercise … here’s a link to the standard psychological/criminology checklist for psychopathy, the Hayes Psychopathy Checklist https://criminologyweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Hare-Psychopathy-Checklist-Revised-PCLR.pdf. 20 questions that can be scored as a 0, 1 or 2. See how many you think you’d score Trump as.
  
  (The average score for prisoners in US maximum security prisons is 22).
  
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  December 16, 2025 10:17am
  - Hard Cheese
    
    I scored Trump 19. Slightly below average psychopath.
    
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    December 16, 2025 11:23am
    - virtualmark
      
      You must be a generous marker. I score him a 9 in just the first 5 questions.
      
      (Qu’s 1, 2, 4 and 5 being definite, and qu 3 being somewhat)
      
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      December 16, 2025 11:59am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    I scored Jacinda as 28 for the record, Trump slightly higher (due to all of the sex).
    
    The reason I bring up Jacinda is that for politicians, the nature of the job/personality required for the job, guarantees that they’ll tick most of the non-sex related boxes (and often the sex ones too). You could do this for any politician and they’ll easily hit 20.
    
    Note that this is at least partially because it’s all we see. We don’t really know what they’re like outside of the politicking.
    
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    December 16, 2025 3:21pm
Yvette

Australia Urged to Act Faster on Antisemitism After Bondi Beach Attack
Jillian Segal, the country’s special envoy to combat antisemitism, said the deadly incident was shocking but not surprising amid a rise in violence targeting the Jewish community. – New York Times

Here, just across the Tasman, are Clöe Swarbick and other Greens’ garb in Parliament pro-Palestinians or anti–Israel?
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December 16, 2025 9:21am
- kowtow
  
  A special envoy to combat anti semetism , when Albanese made a virtue of recognising Palestine and no one did squat about the genocidal marches across their major cities.
  
  Talk about having your cake…..
  
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  December 16, 2025 10:46am
- mogg
  
  It’s a lot more than just antisemitism, Irans Revolutionary Guard is known to have a terrorist network in all Western countries. The UK has 40000
  watchlist list of potential terrorists, the prime threat being Islamist terror. Of the resident Muslim UK population 46% support Hamas, most concentrated amongst younger people. The way things are going this will be an ever increasing problem, yet politicians with the exception of Farage will not talk about it
  
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  December 16, 2025 12:12pm
Chuck Bird

The older shooter was not a citizen of Aust.

‘Handwringing impotence in the face of Jew hatred’: Tony Abbott slams Labor over Bondi massacre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT0A0rynF7k
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December 16, 2025 9:30am
- MCōs
  
  What about the Syrian bloke who took his gun? Is he Australian?
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:51am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    I would not know. What is your point?
    
    My point is that they are looking at changing the law so that only citizens will be allowed to own a gun.
    
    The guys are not the issue. Jew hatred is.
    
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    December 16, 2025 9:58am
    - Foxfour
      
      Well , we had 51 muslims die in their mosques, was that meant muslim hatred had to be rooted out ?
      Terrorism covers all kind of political leanings.
      
      Isreal itself was founded by terrorists, check out ben Gurion, Begin and quite a few others
      
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      December 16, 2025 10:24am
      - gravedodger
        
        A major contributor to the Australian accessing weapons and ammunition to carry out his massacre were changes to the arms act by the Peters Pick as PM who allowed Tarrant to get a Licence using only internet identities to support his application to be a licence Holder.
        Something I have more than a passing knowledge about as I served time as a Licence aprover for the CHCH Arms Office that ended because of a dispute over my costs in travelling to face to face interview for the referees one who lives with the applicant and another who has a good understanding of the “Fit and Proper person ” requirements.
        The arms Officer wanted me to do it over the phone and I resigned as there was no way I could in good conscience achieve relevance without a face to face.
        Christ on a Bike his application with those two referees would have seen the application sent back to the Arms Office for them to deal with, no way would I have passed him a fit and proper applicant hell he did not even have an established home address.
        It was a total cock up by those processing his application from go to go again.
        
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        December 16, 2025 11:28am
      - slijmbal
        
        @Foxfour
        
        “Terrorism covers all kind of political leanings.”
        
        Bollocks – the VAST majority of terrorist acts are performed by muslims (frequently on muslims).
        
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        December 16, 2025 12:11pm
      - Foxfour
        
        @mbal
        “The Sabra and Shatila massacre was the 16–18 September 1982 killing of between 1,300 and 3,500 civilians—mostly Palestinians and Lebanese Shias—in the city of Beirut during the Lebanese Civil War. It was perpetrated by the Lebanese Forces, one of the main Christian militias in Lebanon, and supported by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF)
        
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        December 16, 2025 1:01pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        @gravedodger
        Quite right. Ardern has blood on her hands
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/111438784/changes-to-gun-law-overseen-by-jacinda-ardern-described-as-crazy
        
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        December 16, 2025 2:06pm
    - MCōs
      
      My point is whether either of those people are citizens of Australia is not particularly relevant in the big scheme of things
      
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      December 16, 2025 11:48am
    - Quail
      
      CB,
      Only citizens can own firearms?
      Wonder what a law like that could mean for a wilfully divided country like NZ?
      A lot ,as it does today, could depend on the definition of citizen, and whether or not all citizens have the same legal rights.
      Bring back the ACT bill!
      
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      December 16, 2025 3:40pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yes, he is….. but only because he had a lawyer who was clued up.
    
    Issa recounted the struggles his client had in gaining Australian citizenship after escaping the civil war in Syria.
    
    “They weren’t going to give it to him, but we appealed all the way to the Federal Circuit Court. He’s a very good man,” Issa said.
    
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/hero-bystander-tackles-gunman-in-incredible-footage-20251214-p5nnlb.html
    
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    December 16, 2025 11:11am
- greybeard
  
  Great comments and understanding by Tony Abbott, and a very impressive attitude from Peta Credlin.
  
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  December 16, 2025 10:05am
- kowtow
  
  Past time to drop jus soli citizenship rights.
  
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  December 16, 2025 10:48am
Swifty

A quite clever exposure of the left’s hypocrisy over ICE, documentation, illegals etc

https://x.com/wallstreetapes/status/2000604264209527213?s=46

Very multi-faceted.
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December 16, 2025 9:41am
NeverMindTheBollocks

The Waikato Times reports that five years is insufficient as a period of time to trial the Te Huia passenger train between Hamilton and Auckland, and therefore further funding is required from the taxpayer to extend by 12 months.

The Regional Council also note that patronage has been falling, but an extension is bound to see the numbers trend back up.

Really?
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December 16, 2025 10:06am
- RoboRob
  
  WTF
  
  The original trial was far too long. After the first couple of years it was obvious that the service was a failure. Too slow and too expensive. The per person costs are outrageous. I was disappointed National didn’t end it but ‘contracts’, there is no way in hell this will get further government funding. The Hamilton ratepayers would be better off paying Uber fees for the ‘passengers’.
  
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  December 16, 2025 10:48am
- nz_aj
  
  I thought funding was stopped ages ago, with Waikato continuing to pay all, but unfortunately not:
  “The NZTA decided that Te Huia would progressively receive reduced subsidy – from 75.5 per cent to 70 per cent in 2024/25 and 60 per cent in 2025/26.”
  Why is National continuing to subsidise that boondoggle, and otherwise continuing to spend at record levels? Where is the government that can undo Labours mess?
  
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  December 16, 2025 10:56am
- gravedodger
  
  Comedy hour again, Hahahahaha.
  
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  December 16, 2025 11:30am
- artemisia
  
  I posted earlier today about the very high number of business liquidations this year. Businesses that can’t wash their faces and should indeed be closed down. Here is another one. Of course unprofitable businesses could always increase their prices and travel hopefully. And then close down.
  
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  December 16, 2025 1:08pm
Ghost

Another person who took on the shooters, this time an asylum seeker

Article

An asylum seeker intervened in the Bondi Beach terror attack but was shot at by police and attacked by members of the public.

New video footage from the scene shows the man climbing the stairs to the bridge where the two gunmen lay injured after being shot by police marksmen.

The member of the public is seen kicking a weapon away from the terrorists – but police continue firing at the bridge, causing the man to duck for cover.

As police close in on the injured gunmen, the refugee is then challenged by members of the public, who mistake him for a terrorist.
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December 16, 2025 10:42am
Swifty

Well, it’s official, the school lunch beat up has exploded, it has completely backfired and Peggy Burrows is now exposed as an absolute partisan shill who willingly sacrificed her school and her teachers’s reputation for political point scoring.

Not to mention her own.

Seymour emerges unscathed, perhaps a little enhanced as everything he said has been proved to be correct.

Like Tinetti’s ham-fisted and deeply deceitful attempt at a school lunch takedown, it’s all proven to be a great fat lie.

https://x.com/chrislynchmedia/status/2000434129935212804?s=46
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December 16, 2025 11:18am
- Ghost
  
  The school need to be asked if this was a mistake, or if someone intentionally held back, then feed these meals to use against the govt
  
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  December 16, 2025 11:39am
  - Swifty
    
    If I was on the Board id be seeking her resignation or, failing that, offering my own.
    
    She has disgraced that school in the eyes of New Zealanders.
    
    Everything they now say and do will be under suspicion.
    
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    December 16, 2025 12:11pm
    - RoboRob
      
      She had already been removed from Rangiora high, by its board. This board chose to employ her! They also authorised the ‘PD trip to Queenstown’.
      
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      December 16, 2025 1:20pm
  - kowtow
    
    The school needs to be asked why its pupils do so badly.
    
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    December 16, 2025 12:40pm
    - RoboRob
      
      I dont know the exact stats but I suspect the pupils did just as badly in the previous schools with other principals. This is a low decile area with many ‘parental / social’ issues, such as one or more parents behind bars.
      
      *Extended family member works with children and parents in the area.
      
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      December 16, 2025 1:24pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        To quote the great Joe Biden….” poor kids are just as smart as white kids”.
        
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        December 16, 2025 1:59pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      Surely the 4200 strong Ministry routinely monitor the results of each school and act quickly to remedy any shortcomings…???
      
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      December 16, 2025 1:57pm
    - Ghost
      
      Here is there latest ERO
      
      https://www.ero.govt.nz/institution/704/haeata-community-campus
      
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      December 16, 2025 2:09pm
  - muzled
    
    Somebody needs to give the principal the DCM, she’s a fraud.
    
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    December 16, 2025 1:08pm
- RoboRob
  
  Wow, so essentially the school has admitted they were at fault. Thanks for the link.
  
  I expect to see that covered in full in the MSM, especially the state owned TVNZ and RNZ who have given Peggy masive coverage in all her rants against the government.
  
  The real question is, will OSH now start an investigation? Peggey, the head of the organisation, has exposed her staff to food poisoning due to incorrect food handling policies.
  
  Will the MOE take action. This is a woman who has
  
  a) Been ‘moved’ out of a previous leadership roll at Rangiora high
  b) Been involved in spending tax payers moeny on jaunts to Queenstown
  c) Has launched a number of attacks on the government using her status as a principal to add authority to he views.
  
  Perhaps she is unfit for the role?
  
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  December 16, 2025 11:53am
- Paulus
  
  Are we to assume that her Employers, the Education Department, support Dr Burrows who in the Haetea community uses a Maori name, will get told off, but recognising she got an award of $150,000 for wrongful dismissal from a Rangiora College I understand she knows how to play the game.
  She should be promoted elsewhere but with a DCM.
  
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  December 16, 2025 2:22pm
Swifty

Is it true that yesterday 20% of MUMA staff lodged personal grievances?

https://x.com/suitandtie9999/status/2000656329757913226?s=46

Wow, if true.

This is bad for Labour. Very bad.
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December 16, 2025 11:32am
- RoboRob
  
  We may never know as the MSM has chosen to provide zero coverage of this.
  
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  December 16, 2025 11:54am
  - Foxfour
    
    Its supressed by court orders or similar
    
    Politicians do it all the time by sending lawyers letters threatening defamation if ‘claims are made’ that arent true
    
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    December 16, 2025 1:16pm
    - RoboRob
      
      Nope. There are no court orders involved. All that is currently stopping them is a lawyers warning letter and a copious lack of balls.
      
      Think about it, if the Platform with no money can ignore the lawyers and publish anyway, what is stopping the big boys? Certainly not a lack of resources.
      
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      December 16, 2025 1:27pm
  - Ghost
    
    Māori news have started the cover up
    
    https://waateanews.com/2025/12/16/lies-lies-and-more-lies-as-leftie-joins-with-a-cadre-of-right-wingers-to-bring-down-a-maori-organisation/
    
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    December 16, 2025 1:31pm
    - DimChappie
      
      This article shows why the mainstream media have stayed away: there is probably one or more facts in amongst the smears and all need a thorough checking. Were the 20 grievance claims lodged? Did Matt McCarten borrow $100k to set up a union? Our MSM has either swallowed the smears as fact or can’t be bothered digging down.
      
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      December 16, 2025 4:52pm
    - DimChappie
      
      MUMA are responding now. Deputy CEO Mike Tukaki says the right wing bloggers don’t care for Maori workers and there’s no proof of bullying:
      
      https://www.facebook.com/reel/1407504334221222
      
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      December 16, 2025 5:37pm
    - Ghost
      
      I do wonder if there is a bit of hesitation due to them running the story on Kapa-Kingi and it turning out to be fake
      
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      December 16, 2025 8:00pm
76_special

What’s happened to Bomber – TDB seems to be MIA?
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December 16, 2025 11:48am
- Swifty
  
  https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BZND2WFRL/?mibextid=wwXIfr
  
  Technical issues.
  
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  December 16, 2025 12:08pm
- Yabster
  
  let’s hope it permanent…
  
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  December 16, 2025 12:22pm
- kowtow
  
  Who’d miss him?
  
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  December 16, 2025 1:05pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Legal problems?
  
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  December 16, 2025 8:06pm
Jack5

Will NZ protest about the shameful conviction of Jimmy Lai, owner of the Hong Kong newspaper Apple Daily? The former best-selling publication is now suppressed.

Lai, aged 78, a pro-democracy campaigner who’s already spent five years in jail, was found guilty of conspiracy to collude with foreign forces. He may well be sentenced to life imprisonment.

Reuters says the verdict ends a year that marked the essential disappearance of Hong Kong’s democratic opposition under pressure from Beijing. The Democratic Party voted to disband on Sunday.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/jimmy-lais-supporters-queue-hong-kong-overnight-verdict-2025-12-14/
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December 16, 2025 11:57am
- kowtow
  
  Can’t wait for the Greens and far left Labour types so fond of Middle East scarves to don coolie conical hats and do some more performative displays…….
  
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  December 16, 2025 1:02pm
- Wayne1749
  
  Whatever you think of the PRC, Jimmy Lai is as guilty as sin, and would have been similarly prosecuted if he lived in any Western country.
  
  Imagine if a public figure in NZ frequently met with Russian and Chinese lawmakers, and even Putin or Xi, and consistently advocated for them to sink the New Zealand economy in order to destroy the NZ political system. Then using their support he instigates mass riots across the country including the sacking of the Beehive. That person would be rightly charged with sedition and prosecuted.
  
  Yet, that is exactly what Lai did, visit the US, met with the US vice president and consistently and flagrantly for a long time urged the US and other Western countries to economically destroy his homeland as a means to overturn the Chinese political system.
  
  Remember the Jan 6 rioters in the US. Those who were not even there, committed no acts of violence, but simply provided moral encouragement were sentenced to over 2 decades in prison.
  
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  December 16, 2025 1:55pm
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    That’s the Communist Party line, Wayne1749.
    
    Jimmy Lai, a British citizen, has been held in solitary confinement for almost four years since his arrest in December 2020.
    
    He’s the most high-profile figure charged under Hong Kong’s national security laws enacted in 2020. The laws crushed civil liberties in Hong Kong.
    
    In a trial that finished a few weeks ago, 45 activists received prison sentences for conspiracy to commit subversion ranging from four years up to a decade.
    
    During his trial, Lai was grilled over a visit to Washington at the start of Hong Kong’s protests in July 2019, when he met with Mike Pence, then Vice-President, and Mike Pompeo, then Secretary of State.
    
    Lai said interactions were limited to explaining background of the social unrest that had broken out in Hong Kong the previous month.
    
    While he asked that the White House “say something in support of Hong Kong”, Lai claimed that he stopped short of direct requests for sanctions.
    
    Would the Chinese Communist Party tolerate a Kiwiblog in China? Yeah right.
    
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    December 16, 2025 3:31pm
    - Wayne1749
      
      It’s obvious to many that Lai has made repeated trips to Western nations seeking backing to undermine Hong Kong. In New Zealand, such actions would likely be labelled “foreign interference.”
      
      Would the Chinese Communist Party allow a blog like Kiwiblog to operate in China? Quite possibly—after all, Kiwiblog is hardly a fiercely anti-government platform. How many comments here challenge New Zealand’s democratic system?
      
      Virtually none.
      
      Ultimately, it’s their country, their system, and their rules. One thing about Trump is that he doesn’t concern himself much with how other nations govern themselves. For New Zealanders, Jimmy Lai should matter about as much as the Treaty Principles bill does to the Chinese.
      
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      December 16, 2025 10:52pm
      - Jack5
        
        Jimmy Lai is a dual Hong Kong-British citizen. It’s been the lingering hope of him and hundreds of thousand of Hong Kong folk that China would follow Hong Kong into increased democracy.
        
        Lai was wealthy and didn’t need to spend his old age fighting for democracy he hoped to evolve in China. He’s a journalistic hero.
        
        Under the agreement between Britain and China, the “one country, two systems” regime for Hong Kong was to have lasted until 2047.
        
        It looks increasingly as though China is welching on the deal.
        
        As for the comment, Ultimately, it’s their country, their system, and their rules, Wayne1749 is saying in effect it’s none of our business in NZ.
        
        We trade with China and have migrants from the country. China’s governance, especially its democracy, is significant to us.
        
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        December 16, 2025 11:58pm
Ghost

Interesting. Guess they don’t want the backlash

A Sydney Muslim community leader says Islamic leaders are refusing to perform funeral rights for the Bondi gunman who was shot dead on Sunday.

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December 16, 2025 11:59am
AitchW

Winston Peters was right to refuse to recognise Palestine.
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December 16, 2025 12:39pm
- Graeme Hall
  
  It was clearly the right response, but do you think the statement on Palestine Winston read out was not approved by Cabinet first? I’d be surprised if he even wrote it.
  
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  December 16, 2025 3:22pm
Ra Henare

And in other news.

Will be interesting to see President Trumps actions following his “peace deal” being ignored in the Thailand/Cambodia war as Thailand sends F16s 70km in to Cambodia to bomb “”military”” targets and Cambodia continues Rocket Barrages in to Thailand.

Methinks his Ego will ramp up something.. He cant send a naval Battle group. What will he do?
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December 16, 2025 12:59pm
- Graeme Hall
  
  No problem for President Trump. He gets to claim three peace deals, and counting, over the same border incident. Next Nobel Peace prize? No contest. Hold his beer.
  
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  December 16, 2025 3:25pm
Jack5

Car giant Forḍ will take writedowns of $US19.5 billion ($NZ33.7 billion) — mainly related to its electric-vehicle business.

The Wall Street Journal reports that Ford, which has lost $US13 billion (about $NZ22.5b) on its EV business since 2023, will bolster its lineup of petrol-powered vehicles while shifting to hybrid and so-called extended-range electric vehicles that include onboard petrol engines.

Ford’s chief executive, Jim Farley, said the company, “instead of ploughing billions into the future knowing large EVs will never make money, is pivoting to reduced-emission power trains, where we have a lot more certainty”.
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December 16, 2025 1:00pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Kinda consistent with their recent involvement in the F1 arena with the new regulation switches to 50/50 hybrid and 100% sustainable fuel powertrains …
  
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  December 16, 2025 1:17pm
- Foxfour
  
  You and I could have predicted this whole EV only push would come to tears.
  Same happening to mythical taniwha – Nett Zero
  
  Next Big economic burp will be the AI boom, huge amount of money will disappear into some ‘cloud’
  
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  December 16, 2025 3:26pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    FF you’ve come to the conclusion that climate alarmism is a crock?
    
    Amaze me.
    
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    December 16, 2025 8:08pm
Maggy Wassilieff

No holds barred on the continuing MSM unreported saga about MUMA and Matt McCarten

https://waateanews.com/2025/12/16/lies-lies-and-more-lies-as-leftie-joins-with-a-cadre-of-right-wingers-to-bring-down-a-maori-organisation/

https://waateanews.com/2025/12/16/opinion-when-principles-blur-matt-mccarten-unlikely-alliances-and-a-political-reckoning/

https://waateanews.com/2025/12/16/michael-tukaki-muma-deputy-chief-executive/
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December 16, 2025 1:32pm
- Swifty
  
  Will Matt McCarten get a right of reply?
  
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  December 16, 2025 3:03pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    At Waatea news?
    
    🤣
    
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    December 16, 2025 8:59pm
    - Swifty
      
      Heh.
      
      I wonder if the recent lowering of funding to Waatea is National finally waking up to the fact that it is just a mouthpiece for their political opponents.
      
      Good on them if so.
      
      https://waateanews.com/2025/12/10/cuts-to-maori-broadcasting-loom-large-as-2025-ends/
      
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      December 16, 2025 9:33pm
PurplePen

Just watching parliament, just had 1 minute of silence … a proud moment in a way.
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December 16, 2025 2:29pm
- AitchW
  
  Thank God none of the activist parties broke into a haka….
  
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  December 16, 2025 3:10pm
  - kowtow
    
    No Greens wearing those scarves . Don’t have the courage of their convictions ……
    
    I wonder when they’ll performatively festoon themselves again.
    
    Hypocrites , and the prominent Labour MPs who’re just as bad.
    
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    December 16, 2025 5:04pm
MCōs

In the aftermath of the Bondi shooting some people jumped at the chance to claim the bloke who disarmed one of the perpetrators was a Christian, had a western name or in the case of Netanyahu was Jewish, when he is in fact a Syrian Muslim.
Maybe our unique name suppression laws don’t look so bad after all
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/dec/15/pakistani-man-living-in-australia-describes-nightmare-of-being-labelled-as-bondi-attacker?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

https://youtube.com/shorts/xyb1I0m5P8Q?si=_mXuI9p5LncWD6RH
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December 16, 2025 2:29pm
- Spring Bank Westie
  
  To be fair, the Bondi disarming hero was initially (mis)identifed on Sky News by witnesses as the bloke from the nearby Bondi fruit shop, which regular customers confirmed was run by Lebanese Maronite Christians. It was only the next day that he was correctly identified as the Syrian Muslim tobacconist.
  
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  December 16, 2025 2:59pm
lifesgood

If you want to hear someone stirring up hatred for Israel (why would you?) listen to that loser Roman Travers on Newstalk nights. He is so vitriolic it isn’t funny. Personally I think the station should tell him to pull his head in. People equate the state of Israel with Jews wherever they live. All Travers is doing is stirring up the brainless. Interestingly Travers worked in Israel for some time, maybe he was “no longer required” amd has a grudge. He seems to have had an awful lot of jobs and is always complaining about how broke he is. As I say, a loser.
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December 16, 2025 3:46pm
- Graeme Hall
  
  Last night Mr Travers started spontaneously ranting about the Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu. Never heard any host on any platform broadcast such antisemitic bile. I cannot understand why Mr Travers is still on the ZB network. No one should be allowed on air to broadcast such nonsense without their network licence being suspended. He is a fool.
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:48pm
Ghost

No surprise. Didn’t think she would follow through with it

Taxpayers’ Union chairwoman and former Finance Minister Ruth Richardson is backing out of the much-hyped debate with Finance Minister Nicola Willis.

Richardson had accepted Willis’ challenge to debate after the Taxpayers’ Union’s campaign accusing Willis of fudging promises on debt and spending.

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December 16, 2025 6:41pm
Swifty

Aussie has allowed a cancer to manifest:

https://x.com/realrick_aus/status/2000679979797880907?s=46

Not praying is worse than murder and raping children daily, apparently.

I note too they’ve let in 2,000 Gazans over the last two years.

I just don’t see an upside.
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December 16, 2025 6:48pm
- Ghost
  
  Insane, but this one puts a bit of sanity back into it
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtXGYyQ6LBQ
  
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  December 16, 2025 7:20pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Computer says no.
    
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    December 17, 2025 6:17pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/food-drink/360915284/auckland-restaurant-moe-palae-myanmar-masterchef-winning-chef-closes-due-economic-situation

A few things spring to mind:

1. Brad Olsen looks as though he has spent a lot of time in restaurants. Probably at their expense.

2. “Masterchef” credentials apparently do not translate to “Successful business”.

3. The Auckland restaurant scene appears to be based on appearances and bullshit rather than actual good food, values and customer support.
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December 16, 2025 8:42pm
- Swifty
  
  There’s plenty of restaurants and takeaways doing good business in Auckland, you’ve just got to have your shit sorted.
  
  Right marketing, right market, right location, right offerings, right food, right service, right price etc.
  
  Get one or more of these wrong and you’re in trouble.
  
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  December 16, 2025 9:30pm
Ghost

Both Labour and the Taxpayers’ Union have hit back at criticism levelled at them by Finance Nicola Willis, saying she must take responsibility for the state of the books.

Treasury’s Half Year Economic and Fiscal Update (HYEFU) – published on Tuesday – showed a surplus was not forecast until 2029/30, although Willis said the government would still target 2028/29.

The expected deficit for 2025/26 was projected to be $13.9 billion, $1.8b worse than forecast in May. A slower economy, lower tax take, higher debt costs were cited as reasons for the revisions.

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$9.2 billon a year on the interest of the govt debt, thanks grant and labour for screwing this country with how much you borrowed
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December 16, 2025 8:57pm
Swifty

South Africa’s Chief Rabbi responds to Bondi.

https://x.com/yvonnes85014214/status/2000752172217328063?s=46

Gets to the heart of the matter.
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