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peterwn

As Ghost indicated yesterday the Court of Appeal has upheld the High Court decision that there were no reasons why the Minister’s decision that Dotcom be extradited should not stand (apologies for the multiple negatives). As Ghost indicated the show ain’t over until the fat lady has sung so he is not quite ready to appear in the US District Court, Alexandria, VA wearing an orange jump suit.
The Appeal decision is here:
https://www.nzlii.org/nz/cases/NZCA/2026/284.pdf

Dotcom can take a further appeal to the NZ Supreme Court where initially a three judge court will decide whether to grant leave to appeal or not. Leave would only be granted if the appellant can identify at least one point of law in the Appeal decision worthy of argument. I consider that there is a low probability of leave being granted meaning that it is curtains for Dotcom. Presumably US Marshals would come to NZ on a commercial flight or a ConAir flight to accompany him to the USA. Plane spotters would love the latter situation.

The other twist is he will almost certainly attempt to flee – he is wealthy and can muster up the resources to flee eg chartering a luxury yacht to come near NZ to pick him up and hiring a local boatman to take him out to the yacht at dead of night. So perhaps the Crown Solicitor may seek to revoke his bail at some point especially if there is any evidence that he is planning to flee NZ before having to face the music.
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July 2, 2026 8:01am
- Boy Geoff
  
  Might need to check Laila Harre’s or Pam Corkery’s basements.
  
  (Or possibly Hone Harawira’s basement too).
  
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  July 2, 2026 8:36am
- igm
  
  Just get the obese crim out of NZ. He has caused too much trouble and cost for NZ taxpayers.
  
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  July 2, 2026 8:59am
- RoboRob
  
  Thanks for the update. If this case follows its normal process Dotcom will be given about 1.5 years to lodge an appeal. At which point the court will take ~1yr to make a decision. So if you are right and this is his final chance (I have heard that before!) he has about 2.5years before he needs to do a runner.
  
  Personally I don’t expect him to run. I expect he will go to the US to face trial. I wouldn’t be surprised if the US can the trial. The reason Dotcom was charged in the first place was to send a message to other, bigger players, that they shouldn’t be openly hosting pirated material. It was in 2012 and Obama’s first term. There was a large push from Dem supporters in California to do something.
  
  We have had multiple presidential terms since this was initiated and the media landscape is totally different. The purpose of ‘getting’ Dotcom no longer exists.
  
  All that said, this whole saga is an embarrassment to NZ police and the judicial system. That it takes 14+ years to get close to enforcing a deportation warrant is ludicrous. This isn’t a piracy trial, this is just enforcing an extradition request.
  
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  July 2, 2026 9:32am
  - Jethrod
    
    It’s not over until the fat matey wings it!
    
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    July 2, 2026 9:53am
  - Philview
    
    How many years is Karel Šroubek on now?
    
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    July 2, 2026 10:56am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      At least 12 years… (but probably should have been deported in 2011)
      
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/community/580246/why-convicted-drug-smuggler-karel-sroubek-still-hasn-t-been-deported
      
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      July 2, 2026 11:28am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Fast track him out. He can appeal from the Czech Republic, at his own expense.
        
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        July 2, 2026 6:34pm
  - Hard Cheese
    
    Possibly he wont bother appealing, he might grease a few wheels to see if he can get a presidential pardon from Trump. Trump can’t (in theory) run in 2028 so a failed appeal to the Supreme Court might find him landing in the US with a Democrat government not likely to be sympathetic.
    
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    July 2, 2026 5:20pm
- imalwaysright
  
  Was his crime providing a platform to share files?
  
  Many provide the same service.
  
  It seems that KDC’s ‘crime’ was to do it more efficiently and cheaper than Microsoft etc….hence the Federales involvement.
  
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  July 2, 2026 9:52am
  - Ghost
    
    I don’t ever recall Microsoft coming into warez forums and offering free premium accounts to staff to push Microsoft, I do remember Kim doing this.
    
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    July 2, 2026 10:00am
  - RoboRob
    
    It actually doesn’t really matter what the crime was, he will be tried in the US not here. The US put in an extradition request that was legal by NZ law. We just fucked it up so badly, and our court system is so slow, that a relatively simple request has taken 14+ years, millions of dollars and still going.
    
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    July 2, 2026 10:36am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Just pointing out the double standard that Gates and the kid who runs Facebook are considered to be the good guys, yet their platforms are used for exactly the same crimes with Facebook market place even advertising stolen goods.
      
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      July 2, 2026 10:43am
      - Ghost
        
        Their platforms take it down, Kim didn’t, he promoted his services to be used to host copywritten material
        
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        July 2, 2026 12:08pm
  - peterwn
    
    One needs to consider the totality of the file sharing situation. It was comprehensively covered in a FBI report at the time. Victims were not just big American studios. Victims included Kiwis such as Peter Jackson and various others.
    
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    July 2, 2026 6:52pm
- Simon
  
  US govt regularly lets paedophiles escape to Israel.
  
  This looks like some sort of commercial dispute in comparison to say the Epstein files, a Mossad operation given a free pass.
  
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  July 2, 2026 10:26am
- cmm (semi-retired edition)
  
  Given his obesity he no doubt has terrible health.
  
  The only effective fleeing he can do is in a video game.
  
  Whatever, I don’t care, so long as he leaves NZ.
  
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  July 2, 2026 10:58am
  - imalwaysright
    
    I think he should stay.
    
    He’s clearly a bright man and is capable of running a profitable business.
    I bet he could sort out the bus ticket system and interdepartment data sharing etc. Give him a job.
    
    There are plenty of bastards in this country ripping off the taxpayer daily and the law ignores them.
    
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    July 2, 2026 11:57am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Isn’t he recovering from a very serious stroke?
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360771561/kim-dotcom-says-he-can-walk-bit-after-stroke-last-year
    
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    July 2, 2026 1:30pm
    - Graeme Hall
      
      It is amazing how fast ill fraudsters can recover their health when fortune favours them. The story of Christopher Skase who fled Australia owing millions, feigned several illnesses and got chased by the Australian Govt all over the planet is a story rivalling Kim Dotcom. Unluckily for Mr Skase one of his illnesses was real and he died in 2001 before he could be extradited from Spain as a Dominican citizen.
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Skase
      
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      July 2, 2026 2:36pm
    - peterwn
      
      He will get looked after in a Federal joint just as well if not better than in a Kiwi prison. And it would not be a burden on the NZ taxpayer.
      
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      July 2, 2026 6:56pm
- NothingLeft
  
  “Not over till the fat lady has sung” I knew Kim had released an album, but didn’t realize he had transistorized himself, though given woke insanity infesting judiciary that would probably buy him another decade of appeals etc.
  
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  July 2, 2026 2:29pm
artemisia

Third of those declined emergency housing not offered any alternative MSD says those eligible are offered alternatives. The question then becomes, why are some declined applicants not eligible for alternatives offered by the government.

The eligibility criteria for emergency housing are fairly straightforward – citizen or permanent resident, income and asset limits, all other options explored, caused or contributed to their own homeless situation. Maybe those declined for those reasons walk away and don’t ask for government help. MSD says they don’t know, so presumably they are not told.

Politicians have the option of a policy to change the eligibility criteria. Maybe an announcement is imminent.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/politics/651934/third-of-those-declined-emergency-housing-not-offered-any-alternative
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July 2, 2026 8:07am
Pope Punctilious II

The unflushable story about Maori voyaging to Antarctica has been embraced by the Antarctic Science Platform.
https://www.antarcticscienceplatform.org.nz/updates/flying-south-for-the-winter-k879a
The money wasted on flying Mātāmua and Keepa down to the ice is the least of it. Totally unsupported ideas are being laundered as truth.
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July 2, 2026 8:31am
- mike
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  The search for truth within myth and legend will always be with us.
  Much ink has been spilled by ‘scholars’ trying to prove the veracity of biblical tales, legends of King Arthur or Robin Hood, for example.
  
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  July 2, 2026 8:56am
  - rouppe
    
    Speaking of myth and legend, I see that a fossil found in Antarctica in 1985 and stored in a drawer at the British Antarctic Survey (BAS) in Cambridge has been identified as part of the tail bone from a type of dinosaur called a Titanosaur.
    
    Back when Antarctica was a lush forest land capable of supporting large grazing animals such as those.
    
    Made me wonder about the catastrophic predictions made by the Greens about melting ice caps and whether those predictions are myth and legend.
    
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    July 2, 2026 9:08am
    - kowtow
      
      One would expect howls of protest and calls to be made for the treasure to be restored to the descendants of the indigenous of said continent ……..
      
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      July 2, 2026 9:46am
    - Bullion
      
      What’s myth and legend here? Antarctica used to be further north part of the super continent Gondwanaland. Also at time with higher concentrations of ghg, which kept the planet warmer.
      
      And on climate change, those predictions have an evidentiary basis and are measurable:
      https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/05/260518041417.htm
      
      https://www.newscientist.com/article/2526630-the-race-to-understand-how-and-when-thwaites-glacier-will-collapse/
      
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      July 2, 2026 10:53am
      - rouppe
        
        But clearly not catastrophic. Remember that warming and higher Co2 concentrations are supposed to be a “boiling” “extinction event”.
        
        When historically, they weren’t.
        
        Might cause inconvenient displacement, but not mass extinction.
        
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        July 2, 2026 11:51am
      - Bullion
        
        Well, you are not comparing like for like. Our ecosystems, flora and fauna, have adapted to conditions that have been relatively stable for entirety of the Holocene.
        
        Drastic changes in temperatures in the past have resulted in mass extinction events, both warming (e.g. Permian and Triassic) and cooling (e.g. Devonian). These are 75% to 90% species lost. Our curent warming is happening at a much faster rate than prior mass extinction events, not saying it will pan out the same (we have evidence and can make adjustments based on evidence) but its not something to bury your head in the sand and ignore.
        
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        July 2, 2026 12:11pm
      - rangitoto
        
        The most dangerous thing for humans would be another ice age. Vast areas of Eurasian and North American agricultural lands would drop out of production causing mass starvation.
        
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        July 2, 2026 12:52pm
      - NothingLeft
        
        Climate is not of the least of concerns for humans. No extinction risk, at worst short term mild inconvenience for a couple of decades before we fully transition from fossile fuels and modify climate to be whatever we want as we are on the cusp of technologic capabilities to control global climate forever (AI built orbital solar power etc, can then easily scale up and shade earth if necessary).
        
        Contrast to AI that is almost certainly the end for humans in next 1-2 centuries (for good – transhumanism, or bad – extinction), and it is clear where rational concerns should lie.
        
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        July 2, 2026 2:35pm
      - Jack5
        
        Bullion’s …What’s myth and legend here? Antarctica used to be further north part of the super continent Gondwanaland. …
        
        That was 600 million years or more ago!
        
        The hill tribes of Taiwan who were to become Polynesians started migrating into the Pacific about 5,000 years ago — or less.
        
        Bullshit about Maori astronomical knowledge surges just before the Pleiades/Matariki sightings.
        
        What did Maori contribute to astronomical knowledge? Nothing.
        
        They had no useful mathematics, no writing system, no telescopes, no astrolabes, no sextants. They could use only stars and moon for marking annual weather patterns and memorise these with memorable folk tales.
        
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        July 2, 2026 8:05pm
    - Paulus
      
      There is huge elements saying and showing the Sahara Desert as a lush forests – some eastern
      edges still are.
      Did Maori get there first too ?
      
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      July 2, 2026 12:45pm
  - Pope Punctilious II
    
    There is no search for truth here mike. [Mod – use people correct username] An unsupported and highly improbable story is being laundered as fact.
    
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    July 2, 2026 10:07am
    - keepcalmcarryon
      
      Whereas the provable ash layer in the Antarctic ice from Maori massively burning New Zealand is hotly denied.
      Have they claimed the toothfishery yet?
      
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      July 2, 2026 6:22pm
- Northshoredoc
  
  ‘On the improbability of pre-European Polynesian voyages to Antarctica: a response to Priscilla Wehi and colleagues.’
  
  ‘It is concluded that Antarctic voyaging by pre-European Polynesians seems most unlikely.’
  
  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11485678/
  
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  July 2, 2026 9:08am
- Southern Raider
  
  This doesn’t even pass a very basic sanity check.
  
  Māori are Pacific Islanders eg used to tropical climates and hardly even settled in the Sth Island because it was too cold in winter.
  
  Put aside the massive Southern Ocean swells they would never had any possibility of not freezing to death. NZ had no land based mammals to provide warm pelts.
  
  They ain’t no Vikings
  
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  July 2, 2026 9:15am
  - RoboRob
    
    Stop applying logic. We are talking Maori science here 🙂
    
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    July 2, 2026 9:35am
    - R
      
      Naughty boy Robo! Mustn’t question Maori since, or mythology.
      
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      July 2, 2026 9:46am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Seal skins
    
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    July 2, 2026 11:07am
    - Keith White
      
      SEAL Team Hapu
      
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      July 2, 2026 1:24pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        Nice one.
        
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        July 2, 2026 8:16pm
  - MiddleclassTrash
    
    These beliefs are from the same people who believe that I cause kidney problems in Pacific Islanders in NZ because… I’m an evil wizard? Hence I and my fellow Brit pioneer stock peoples should be denied health care.
    You can’t logic away crazy, I guess.
    
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    July 2, 2026 1:39pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    Maori would have eventually figured out how to make leather as most hunter gathers had for half a million years or more, and would have eventually more fully inhabited the South Island.
    
    The Yahgan people native to Terre Del Fuego survived year round in climate similar to Auckland Islands, without clothing, living naked and diving for shell fish.
    
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    July 2, 2026 2:42pm
- surfing
  
  “Their observations will support ongoing understanding of the motions of the Sun, Moon, and stars from a Southern Hemisphere perspective.”
  
  I don’t get it — I thought the motion of the Sun, Moon, and stars was well understood.
  
  Why spend money on this?
  
  I wonder if maori scholars figured out the oddity of Mercury’s wobbly orbit yet? If they like, they can call me and I can drop them some breadcrumbs.
  
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  July 2, 2026 9:15am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I thought the motion of the Sun, Moon, and stars was well understood.
    
    Only by the Western-based (and East Asian, Arab, South Asian) paradigm….
    
    Maori Astronomy had only legends to explain why night followed day, or why there were seasons, or why the moon showed regular phases.
    
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    July 2, 2026 11:46am
    - rangitoto
      
      I wonder how the free program Stellarium is able to display all this stuff perfectly matching the actual sky. They must have some witch doctors writing the code.
      
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      July 2, 2026 12:59pm
- imalwaysright
  
  A reenactment in the style of the Kontiki expedition is in order….
  
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  July 2, 2026 9:38am
  - Jethrod
    
    Perhaps JT will fund it?
    
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    July 2, 2026 2:01pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      Hopefully he will captain it…
      
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      July 2, 2026 3:55pm
- Sponge
  
  I often wonder if these people genuinely believe this Maori science bullshit or they are just taking the piss and know it so they can enjoy the cash and trips away.
  
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  July 2, 2026 9:47am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    these people genuinely believe this Maori science
    
    Most folks espousing “Maori science” explanations have only a tenuous grip of the science discipline they are investigating.
    
    e.g. I saw a programme some years ago with a local expert referring to a nearby kauri tree as a male, when its kauri cones (i.e. the fruit) were as obvious as can be.
    
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    July 2, 2026 11:53am
- kowtow
  
  “Wasted” , surely not . It’s the new state religion and this month we even have a public holiday in honour of the first major spinoff of same.
  
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  July 2, 2026 9:48am
  - Ian
    
    Despite Jacinda having foisted this holiday on us, in a way, fair enough as there was no recognition of Maori celebrations, the country (sorry, motu) hasn’t adopted it wholesale yet. Even the t.v. ad promotions are rather muted this year and no mention of honouring or paying homage to the Maori gods at all…
    
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    July 2, 2026 12:16pm
- Phronesis
  
  “Their observations will support ongoing understanding of the motions of the Sun, Moon, and stars”
  So they are only a few thousand years behind on the science.
  The real issue is that this is just a symptom of what is wrong with NZ science. You don’t get outcomes like this without the majority of the people working in the system being demonstrably lacking in the kind of rationality required to do science.
  
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  July 2, 2026 10:47am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    The majority of people lacking the balls to say “no”, more like it.
    
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    July 2, 2026 11:09am
- Master Mariner
  
  You could of seen where the stars are in a simple program for any date, Rising, setting, Brightness etc
  without wasting resources.
  
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  July 2, 2026 2:08pm
mike

President Man-Baby seems unhappy:
“Do you think people appreciate what a fantastic job we did in building and operating the Great American State Fair at the National Mall, packed with happy people, and everybody loving it?”
“Ask yourself this simple question, ‘DO YOU THINK THAT OBUMA OR SLEEPY JOE BIDEN COULD HAVE DONE IT?’ THE ANSWER IS NO!”
Why can’t Americans worship him as he deserves?
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July 2, 2026 8:49am
- Notsofast
  
  Share market is OK for now.
  
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  July 2, 2026 8:53am
  - mogg
    
    Not the NZSX,
    
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    July 2, 2026 11:19am
    - Paulus
      
      Time to buy !
      
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      July 2, 2026 2:22pm
- keepcalmcarryon
  
  TDS
  Trump says something offensive/outrageous. The horror. Media reports / inflates.
  No one cares or even particularly listens except the terminally offended.
  
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  July 2, 2026 9:02am
  - mogg
    
    He has made the West more secure, worldwide countries are rushing to spend more on defence, even the Europeans are having to cut back on their Welfareism.
    
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    July 2, 2026 11:23am
    - Paulus
      
      Why can’t we cut back on Welfareism ?
      
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      July 2, 2026 12:49pm
      - NothingLeft
        
        …” But we’ve proved it again and again,
        That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
        You never get rid of the Dane.”
        
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        July 2, 2026 2:45pm
- surfing
  
  I don’t know why Trump has the incessant need to insult people.
  
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  July 2, 2026 9:16am
  - imalwaysright
    
    He’s not insulting them, he’s describing them.
    
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    July 2, 2026 9:31am
  - RoboRob
    
    Recall that Obama publicly insulted Trump when he was in an audience, saying ‘you will never be president’, which was the instigation for Trump to stand! If people are upset about Trump they have Obama to blame.
    
    Then you have Joe who used the government to spy on the Trump campaign and set up the Russia gate scandal, mostly torpedoing Trumps first term. Trump has NO love for these guys.
    
    That said, I agree he should move on, especially around Obama.
    
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    July 2, 2026 9:38am
    - RichardX
      
      Such a dumb argument and whataboutism at its finest.
      
      Recall that Obama’s comments were in response to Trump’s birther nonsense. If people are upset about Obama they have Trump to blame.
      
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      July 2, 2026 10:11am
      - kowtow
        
        Obama can blame his agent or editor for that.Not Trump.
        
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        July 2, 2026 10:24am
      - Gussy
        
        Not a dumb argument at all Richard.
        Surfing can’t understand why Trump feels the need to insult people (presumably including Obama & Biden). Arguably, others started it (including Jacinda, Burnham, Kahn, David Lammy, etc, etc, etc).
        And here, Mike calls him a man-baby.
        
        The moral high ground can be a very lonely place (so I’m told).
        
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        July 2, 2026 12:43pm
    - virtualmark
      
      To be fair …
      
      Obama said that he didn’t think Trump would ever be President because “… it’s a serious job. It’s not hosting a talk show or a reality show, it’s not promotion, it’s not marketing, it’s hard. It’s not a matter of pandering and doing whatever will get you in the news on a given day.”
      
      Clearly he was wrong – Trump is President – but he was also right in the other stuff there. Basically Obama over-estimated the American voter.
      
      And Joe Biden didn’t start the Russia-gate stuff. The FBI’s investigation was started because Alexander Downer (Australian ambassador to the UK) alerted the FBI to comments from some of Trump’s team re the Trump campaigns Russian connections. The other part that people obsess over – the Steele dossier – was originally prepared for Marco Rubio’s Presidential campaign.
      
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      July 2, 2026 12:45pm
    - NothingLeft
      
      It was Obama who instigated the spying and Russia Collusion Hoax that torpedoed Trumps first term.
      
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      July 2, 2026 2:47pm
  - Homas
    
    Perhaps he’s just a bitter clinger, a deplorable, or (drum roll please), ahem, a lying dog-faced pony soldier.
    
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    July 2, 2026 10:19am
  - rouppe
    
    I seem to recall Jacinda Ardern, back from her first overseas meeting that involved Trump, was asked her impressions of him.
    
    “Not as orange as I thought he’d be” was her reply.
    
    Not very classy.
    
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    July 2, 2026 10:49am
    - Ghost
      
      She said it privately to Tom Sainsbury, who then said it in one of his performances.
      
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      July 2, 2026 11:03am
      - imalwaysright
        
        Two oxymorons:
        Ardern- PM
        Sainsbury- Comedian
        
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        July 2, 2026 12:27pm
      - Homas
        
        She did however, as I recall, fete a particularly odious compatriot of Trump’s who had earlier referred to his mouth as Putin’s “cock holster”.
        
        Flip the genders etc. on that one and let me know how you get on.
        
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        July 2, 2026 12:49pm
      - Ghost
        
        So? Seriously, is this how stupid we have got? We now want to hold to account a prime minister for what Stephen Colbert said? She didn’t even know Colbert then either.
        
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        July 2, 2026 1:20pm
      - kowtow
        
        iar
        
        or just two morons.
        
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        July 2, 2026 1:59pm
    - Bullion
      
      The context was she told comedian Tom Sainsbury (possibly in a light hearted manner) in a private conversation, who then told someone else.
      
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      July 2, 2026 11:16am
      - rouppe
        
        So? That doesn’t save others people’s reputations.
        
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        July 2, 2026 11:52am
      - Ghost
        
        People often tell friends stories they don’t expect to be broadcasted.
        
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        July 2, 2026 12:00pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Is Tom Sainsbury really a comedian?
        
        So far he’s never managed to make me laugh.
        
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        July 2, 2026 12:47pm
    - Gussy
      
      More classy (and less public) than her calling Trump a professional arsehole.
      Be kind.
      
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      July 2, 2026 1:09pm
wsk12345

It seems they snuck this one through….

The Antisocial Road Use Legislation Amendment Act was passed by Parliament on 30 June 2026. Most of its provisions will come into force in about six months.

It includes a new offence of “intimidating convoys” – Police can prosecute groups of two or more vehicles travelling together in an intimidating way while committing specified traffic offences. . Vehicle forfeiture or destruction will be the presumptive sentence for offenders. Police will also gain stronger powers to temporarily close roads or public areas where antisocial vehicle gatherings are occurring or imminent, direct people to leave those areas, and issue infringement notices if they refuse.

By my reading the anti mandates convoy across both islands would fall under this. In the South Island that was a 3 1/2 hour continuous stream of traffic. Police state? Does anyone doubt that this is the event type it’s intended to prevent ?

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/bill-passed-tackle-antisocial-road-users
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July 2, 2026 8:51am
- RoboRob
  
  My first thought was it was to prevent gang convoys. But you are right, it could be used to stop other protest operations. I could see Labour using it to stop farmer tractor protests and a future right leaning government to stop a Maori hikoi.
  
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  July 2, 2026 9:43am
  - R
    
    Unintended consequences again?…
    
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    July 2, 2026 9:50am
    - kowtow
      
      The Greens could use it for any car/vehicle use , other than their own , of course.
      
      Labour ,under Ardern were very anti diesel utes , so are Green adjacent and could likewise misuse the legislation.
      
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      July 2, 2026 10:23am
      - nigel2010
        
        lol Ardern was only anti diesel utes for the peasants, remember it didn’t count if they were sponsored utes for tv fishing show presenters
        
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        July 2, 2026 2:37pm
  - Skippytony
    
    Minor correction for you: will be used…..
    
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    July 2, 2026 1:48pm
- imalwaysright
  
  This is another unnecessary ‘window dressing’ law.
  
  At present, if we drove two cars or bikes side by side down the motorway and held up other traffic, we would be pulled over by the cops.
  
  Surely the same law applies to gangs.
  
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  July 2, 2026 10:01am
  - rouppe
    
    Were any criminal charges every brought against the Restore Passenger Rail clowns who blocked the Wellington motorway?
    
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    July 2, 2026 10:51am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Not sure, but it seems that the Police enforce the law in an ‘uneven’ manner.
      They broke many laws and should have been charged with all of them.
      
      Remember the Police sergeant on his knees with a cotton bud gently swabbing one of their hands….sickening.
      
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      July 2, 2026 11:15am
Wairoa Native

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that states can legally restrict girls’ and women’s school sports to biological females, finding that doing so is consistent with both the Constitution and Title IX. The Court said states have a legitimate interest in protecting fairness and safety in female sport.

The IOC has also changed course. From the 2028 Olympics, eligibility for the women’s category will be limited to biological females, with a one-time SRY gene screening used to determine eligibility. IOC President Kirsty Coventry said the policy is intended to protect fairness, safety, and the integrity of women’s sport.

Can anyone remind me what our previous ‘brilliant’ minister of sport Grant Robertson’s opinion was?

Note the inaccurate language used by Reuters. No one is ‘banned’ from competing, we are just returning to the fairness, safety and integrity of people competing in their actual sex class.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-supreme-court-decide-legality-state-transgender-sports-bans-2026-06-30/
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July 2, 2026 9:00am
- kowtow
  
  Talking of inarticulate language .
  
  Yesterday, the much loved, in certain circles ,HDPA on nzme radio called JK Rowling “anti trans” . Surely the correct description is pro women .
  
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  July 2, 2026 9:52am
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    100% Kowtow. By their own logic the people attacking Rowling are clearly ‘anti-female’.
    
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    July 2, 2026 2:06pm
rouppe

Read about this wee SNAFU at an AOS training exercise.

Reminded me of a situation I found myself in. Back in the 90’s when I was working on INCIS we had our desks on the ground floor of the Memorial Block at the police college. Anyone who’s been there knows this is right next door to the “House of Crime” where the recruits are run through scenarios of domestic violence, drug raids, property searches, that sort of thing.

To get to the bathrooms you have to walk the outside corridor around the house of crime. It’s poorly lit. I was working late one night and needed to go. Went out into the corridor and 4 steps later was confronted with this HUGE man. He stops, goes “what the…” turns around and shouts ABORT, ABORT!

We both continue walking the direction I was going, and it turns out he was kitted out in all the padding they use when doing live training with dogs. Turn the last corner and there’s all these guys in black with alsations on short lashes that see me and start raging and pulling on their leashes.

I was about 5 seconds from being in a corridor with loose dogs looking for anyone…

That was a moment…
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July 2, 2026 9:25am
- pdm
  
  rouppe.
  
  Is it from that incident that the phrase:
  
  `he was nearly dog tucker’
  
  originated.
  
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  July 2, 2026 9:34am
  - R
    
    Sounds feasible pdm
    
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    July 2, 2026 9:51am
  - kowtow
    
    or shit my pants .
    
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    July 2, 2026 9:54am
  - rouppe
    
    And “sweat bullets” 😆
    
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    July 2, 2026 10:25am
- Don Beckett
  
  No doubt that the situation massively increased you need for the bathroom toilet. 🙂
  
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  July 2, 2026 10:28am
BeaB

It is clear the media is running an election campaign, once again, on homelessness. We’ve been here before when under National it was a shocking crisis which suddenly disappeared under Jacinda Ardern and Chris Hipkins. It has reemerged as a shocking crisis even though hundreds of families have been moved out of motel slums into decent housing.
John Campbell was boasting of his expertise in this area so I guess RNZ will be running one of their relentless campaigns in order to undermine this government.
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July 2, 2026 10:05am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Stuff are running the ‘don’t be mean to disabled or unhealthy immigrants’ leg of the campaign.
  
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  July 2, 2026 11:12am
- Bullion
  
  Why is that National ministers think so poorly of moteliers in NZ?
  
  Willis: “revolting motel rooms”
  Luxon: “squalid, crime-ridden motels”
  
  Surely if you had a choice between a motel, car, garage, street, night shelter you would prefer a motel.
  
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  July 2, 2026 11:24am
  - imalwaysright
    
    They seem to be alluding to the occupants. I’m having a flashback to Michael Wood….
    
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    July 2, 2026 12:04pm
    - Bullion
      
      They seem to be specifically talking about motels, as they suggest anything else for these occupants is better than motels.
      
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      July 2, 2026 3:12pm
MCōs

A 45yo Australian has been charged with murdering a 17yo Thai prostitute in Pattaya. He denied he killed her, but CCTV shows him disposing of a suitcase that contained her naked body by a railway track.
He claimed there was a fight at his home when she tried to pinch his money.
Her distraught mother and stepfather drove down from way up country to confront this guy. The girl had gone to Pattaya to sell her body almost certainly encouraged by her impoverished mother, because she had been sending money back home.
This was on 1News the other evening.
No doubt the mother is expecting a big payout from the Aussie.
My wife’s sister and her husband have quite a nice house 150kms from Bangkok in a rural area. Just up the road a brother in law lived with his family in a pitiful hovel.
I went up there about a year ago and the hovel had been replaced by a respectable house. It seems as soon as one of daughters was old enough she was trafficked to a nearby fatcat and the house was the result . . . ..
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July 2, 2026 10:14am
- rouppe
  
  I hear that if you marry a Thai woman then there are expected obligations to improve the life of the wider family, especially the parents.
  
  However that is trivializing a horrific act by this man. Arguing to that extent over what, 500 or 1000 thai baht, is bonkers.
  
  There is quite a bit of change afoot in Thailand at the moment, this guy is finished.
  
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  July 2, 2026 10:33am
  - MCōs
    
    Both my wife and I have kept right out of the affairs of her family. She told me about twenty five years ago never lend money to Thai people because you’ll never see it again.
    I knew guys who terminated short relationships with Thai women and then had to change addresses because their lives were in danger.
    
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    July 2, 2026 1:40pm
    - kowtow
      
      She told you not to give away your money . Very sensible , she gets more that way.Also short relationship end badly .
      So you stuck around , she got your money.
      
      Bingo.
      
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      July 2, 2026 2:16pm
- imalwaysright
  
  What is your point MCos?
  
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  July 2, 2026 1:04pm
  - MCōs
    
    Not a lot if you’re fixated on an underused bike rack
    
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    July 2, 2026 2:33pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      What do you mean?
      You brought up the murderer, I’m not sure whether you are saying the girl was a justifiable victim?
      
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      July 2, 2026 3:58pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Ahem, Cossie!
      
      Do not be assigning my fixation to IAR.
      
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      July 2, 2026 6:45pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        At least you’re making sense Nevermind.
        
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        July 2, 2026 8:09pm
k1w1

Not sure if TOP policy has been commented on much (have been away), but looking at their “tax reset” – why do they feel they can get away with punching down on the country’s retired folk? Policy that either locks them into a home for life (with little hope of passing on much value) or forcing them to downsize quickly/earlier than they may have planned? It’s downright obscene, and I’m surprised no one (that I’ve seen) in the media has quizzed them on this.
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July 2, 2026 10:28am
- RoboRob
  
  The media love TOP. There will be little discussion around TOP policy until after the election. Top is a Labour vehicle to get them into power without the ‘baggage’ of TPM or the Greens.
  
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  July 2, 2026 10:50am
  - imalwaysright
    
    TOP could be the masterstroke that gives the Left the win.
    The motive doesn’t matter, TOP will appeal to the fringes of all of the parties.
    People are sick of unfulfilled promises to the extent that they will latch on to the comfort of a new messiah who pretends to understand them.
    It being a scam does not enter the equation.
    
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    July 2, 2026 1:12pm
    - Ruahine
      
      The TOP Party.
      Doesn’t that stand for Tax Old People.
      
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      July 2, 2026 5:53pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  TOP are better looking Greens.
  
  Of course the shallow media adore them.
  
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  July 2, 2026 6:46pm
Yvette

… a new offence of “intimidating convoys” – Police can prosecute groups of two or more vehicles travelling together in an intimidating way while committing specified traffic offences. . Vehicle forfeiture or destruction will be the presumptive sentence for offenders.

Will the traditional convoy for which most traffic stops, be excluded and will any vehicle forfeiture or destruction (the presumptive sentence for offenders) include the oblong box in the lead vehicle, and how will that be disposed of?
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July 2, 2026 10:48am
imalwaysright

DOC say its DOCs fault that Iwi didn’t pay money they owed to DOC, and in fact DOC don’t even believe they are owed the money….!

DOC chief admits department failed over Far North campgrounds | RNZ https://share.google/R83zezWiXrnfZoPJD
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July 2, 2026 11:00am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  CEO just gone too
  
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  July 2, 2026 6:48pm
Philview

I read an article this morning about a new movie called Citizen Vigilante. It has been banned in Germany and not able to get access to Cinema distribution in the UK. The premise is a vigilante who tracks down and kills violent criminal migrants who are protected by the judicial system in the country the film is set in. Interesting concept for a movie.
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July 2, 2026 11:41am
- mike
  
  The film features a murderous spree by the vigilante ‘hero’, climaxing with his execution of a whole family.
  
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  July 2, 2026 1:20pm
  - Ghost
    
    Hmmm, sounds like die hard 25?
    
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    July 2, 2026 1:23pm
    - greybeard
      
      Or the various iterations of “The Equalizer” series.
      
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      July 2, 2026 4:21pm
  - Keith White
    
    Indeed it does. Whereas in parallel whataboutism, the targets of the vigilante’s wrath usually execute ten and hundreds of families at a time…
    
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    July 2, 2026 1:28pm
  - Inandout
    
    Mike..Oh a bit like October 7th then?
    
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    July 2, 2026 2:46pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Mike yes of course do omit the motive for killing the family in the movie. Just make out he did it for no reason.
    
    Not too different to Dirty Harry or Charles Bronson “revenge-porn” type movies.
    
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    July 2, 2026 8:26pm
- Ghost
  
  this happens with a lot of smaller films. Cinemas want bums on seats. It’s available for streaming and purchase.
  
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  July 2, 2026 1:23pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    [Mod – sorry that was caused by mod, fixed]
    
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    July 2, 2026 1:29pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      Ok
      
      [Mod – completely this mods fault for not watching what he was doing]
      
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      July 2, 2026 1:50pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        All good, saw the copy/paste from above.
        Thanks.
        
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        July 2, 2026 2:14pm
- Tom Hunter
  
  Not a movie I’ll be going to see but I can’t help contrasting it with One Battle After Another, which celebrated Antifa and other Far Left movements and violence, including terrorist attacks. It was inspired directly by the US Weather Underground movement of the late 60’s.
  
  And what was the response of the Cultural Left?
  
  It earned 13 Academy Award nominations at the 2026 Oscars and took home six of them, including Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Adapted Screenplay.
  
  So I guess “Our Betters” have laid down the rule that a movie that can incite people to easily-achievable real-world violence is not only acceptable, but laudable.
  
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  July 2, 2026 1:32pm
  - mike
    
    Maybe, just maybe, one of those films is a better film than the other. For another example, see the critical response to the Melania and Jacinda films.
    
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    July 2, 2026 2:26pm
- NothingLeft
  
  It’s a revenge flick similar to dozens of others and many TV series over the years with the one distinction that the main character targets malicious immigrants. Which is of course the worst kind of wrong think to the ruling regimes in Europe that have trafficked in mass migration for the last two decades.
  
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  July 2, 2026 2:53pm
Damocles11

‘For more than a generation we have had a tax system which says to New Zealanders: If you want to provide for your old age, don’t save money, borrow money. If you save they will tax you every step of the way. Better to borrow as much as you can and use it to bid up the price of housing.
Then you can sit back and enjoy your imputed rents if you are an owner-occupier, or your various deductions if you are a landlord. Watch leverage amplify the growth in your housing equity until you are ready to pocket your tax-free capital gain.
So we end up with absurd house prices, a capital shallow business sector and young people heading for the airport with one-way tickets.’

https://www.interest.co.nz/public-policy/139217/brian-fallow-says-reversing-retirement-savings-tax-change-1980s-would-be
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July 2, 2026 12:00pm
- rouppe
  
  It wasn’t even primarily about the tax system, initially, I don’t think.
  
  Before 1984 you couldn’t do anything internationally, because foreign exchange on NZ was government controlled. You needed government approval to move money overseas. Before then, only the politically connected and rich could have a car other than those assembled in NZ, because you simply couldn’t buy one.
  
  The same was true of international share investments.
  
  So what could you buy? A house. An industrial unit if you were richer. Since most weren’t, a house it was.
  
  What were the investment options then? Whole of life policies with an investment attached. Trouble was, the fees were front loaded so you had to hang in there for 20 years to see any return. When I started work (1985), I opened one with I can’t remember who. A year on I’d put in $1000 or something and it was worth $750 because of the fees. I wasn’t prepared to trust that 15 years on there’s be a return. The first manifestation of my life long trust issues lol.
  
  Then came the 1984 share market crash. Then came the dot com crash.
  
  What do you think people who’d grown up through all of this was going to do, having watched money magically disappear several times.
  
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  July 2, 2026 3:56pm
- [email protected]
  
  Very true. Putting money in the bank is not financially intelligent. You get taxed on the earned interest and inflation makes it worth less. That is why most people put their money into housing or other investments. No tax and value increases faster than inflation.
  
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  July 2, 2026 8:46pm
Pope Punctilious II

The Maori-Antarctic nonsense just gets worse. The credits say this new doco was made with the “support” of RNZ and TVNZ. If that means they funded this heiferdust, then we’ve just been reminded that it’s time the government defunded them. Rangi Matamua isn’t an astronomer, he’s a stargazer and a storyteller.
https://docedge.nz/events/ranginui-call-of-the-ice/
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July 2, 2026 1:18pm
- Eastlander
  
  Let those who claim it was done repeat the endeavour. Sail to McMurdo sound in an authentic Waka, clothed as 12th century Polynesian mariners would have been.
  
  When a goodly number of idiots have perished in the attempt we can call the question settled.
  
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  July 2, 2026 2:53pm
  - rouppe
    
    Should be easy. After all, it’s much warmer now than it was in the 17th or 18th century…
    
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    July 2, 2026 3:42pm
- Ghost
  
  I believe they’ve simply mistaken the Auckland Island for Antarctica
  
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  July 2, 2026 3:18pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Not plausible… if the legend telling of white cliffs/white land is meant….
    
    (Auckland Islands cliffs are dark volcanics and granite-type rocks)
    
    https://ir.canterbury.ac.nz/server/api/core/bitstreams/cbf0097c-8120-4258-a83f-8c68afdde16f/content
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ui-te-Rangiora
    
    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00288306.2019.1600557#d1e1875
    
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    July 2, 2026 4:22pm
- Nūhaka Native
  
  Nice work if you can get it. With plenty of credulous people at RNZ and TVNZ quite happy to dole out our taxpayer money. As for claims of Māori voyaging to Antarctica in waka: The claim that Māori or other Polynesians discovered Antarctica has been debunked by a group of leading Ngāi Tahu scholars, including Atholl Anderson, Tipene O’Regan, Te Maire Tau, Puamiria Parata-Goodall, and Michael Stevens.
  
  In their 2021 research note, A southern Māori perspective on stories of Polynesian polar voyaging, they argue that the traditions used to support the Antarctica claim have been mistranslated and misinterpreted, that Ngāi Tahu oral traditions contain no references to Antarctica, and that archaeological evidence places the southern limit of pre-European Māori settlement at the Auckland Islands.
  
  They say that “it is very unlikely that Māori or other Polynesian voyaging reached the Antarctic.”
  
  But as Mark Twain may or may not have said. “Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.”
  
  https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/polar-record/article/abs/southern-maori-perspective-on-stories-of-polynesian-polar-voyaging/CD692ED61C1DAB8F33653C6FCFDDE366?
  
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  July 2, 2026 8:16pm
  - Pope Punctilious II
    
    Or as Jonathan Swift put it: “Falsehood flies, and the truth comes limping after it.”
    
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    July 2, 2026 8:41pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yep, Percy Smith rehashed (or made-up) a Polynesian story about a Cook Island chief (set some centuries before the Cooks were settled by humans!!!!) who ventured south.
    
    The tradition recorded by Percy Smith speaks of a legendary Polynesian explorer named Ui-te-Rangiora, who on his travels is supposed to have seen both ice floes and large sea mammals.
    
    But since then, Atholl Anderson said, it has been discovered that the tradition is not an original and ancient one, but one that had been added to Maori folklore at a later date. It is believed to have come from Polynesians who sailed on European sealing and whaling vessels that visited the Antarctic in the early 19th century.
    
    https://polarjournal.net/the-time-polynesians-lived-in-the-subantarctic/
    
    Somehow this tale has been appropriated by modern maori…and offered up as “evidence” for an ancient link between Maori and the Antarctic.
    
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    July 2, 2026 8:41pm
Ghost

Former co-leader of Te Pāti Māori Te Ururoa Flavell is calling for a change in the party’s leadership amid “concerns” over their recent conduct, declaring the party had “lost its way”.

Article

Oh I don’t know, Te Tamihere Party is entertaining with all the in fighting.
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July 2, 2026 1:45pm
- Pope Punctilious II
  
  Yep, they must be doing wonders for popcorn sales.
  
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  July 2, 2026 4:25pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/361000995/nothing-about-us-without-us-16000-strong-petition-calls-scrapping-disability-services-bill
Can AI generate petition “signatures” ?
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July 2, 2026 4:18pm
Gravelroad

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/politics/653464/ministry-staff-supporting-school-lunch-programme-spend-130-000-on-travel-in-a-year
What a ridiculous waste of money this is.
“The documents show the equivalent of 37 total full-time staff work at the (Education) ministry on the school lunches programme, which is largely delivered through external providers.”
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July 2, 2026 5:09pm
Ghost

Candace Owens doesn’t believe Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tz7WmH7GSQ
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July 2, 2026 8:11pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  I switched off her quite a while ago. Nice to look at though. Pity she went off the rails.
  
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  July 2, 2026 8:31pm
Gravelroad

Just saw a contribution on social media by Willie Jackson MP electioneering against Mr Seymour and ACT re the school lunch programme.
A couple of takeouts:
“We know that for many of our whanau, that lunch represented the best meal a lot of our kids got”.
And :
“Our mokopuna deserve better than this”.
Ok, Mr Jackson MP, why don’t the parents and whanau of your mokopuna feed the kids properly at home?
And another thing- what is Working for Families for(and other welfare benefits) if not to look after your own children?
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July 2, 2026 8:33pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  “Our mokopuna deserve better than this”.
  
  So basically Willie Jackson is admitting that many whanau are failing to provide their children and grandchildren with decent meals.
  
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  July 2, 2026 8:51pm
  - greybeard
    
    What has happened to all the billions of Treaty settlements ? There should really be NO hungry “maori” in the country, of any age. Or homeless ones.
    
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