The new Clark Cabinet

September 25th, 2005 at 1:48 pm by David Farrar

Helen Bain in the SST speculates that Hawkins and Samuels will be dropped from Cabinet, and what a reshuffle may involve.

Now predicting Hawkins will be dumped is about as safe as predicting the sun will rise tomorrow. Her picks of King to Welfare and Mallard to defence sound common sense to me.

If I was Clark, here is what I would do:

Cabinet

1 Clark – PM, SIS
2 Cullen – Finance (but with a deputy he hands over to in 2007), Treaty
3 Anderton – Associate Education (Schools)
4 Maharey – Economic Development
5 Goff – Attorney-General, Education
6 King – Welfare
7 Mallard – Defence, State Services
8 Hodgson – Health, Transport
9 Horomia – Maori Affairs
10 Sutton – Foreign Affairs
11 Burton – Police
12 Swain –
13 Dalziel – CYPFS
14 Hobbs – Environment
15 Dyson – ACC
16 Carter – Conservation & Local Govt
17 Benson-Pope – Justice
18 Cunliffe – Deputy Finance, Comms/IT
19 O’Connor – Immigration
20 Okeroa – Ass Maori,

Outside Cabinet

21 Chadwick – Ass Health
22 Barnett – Ass Welfare
23 Fairbrother – Ass Justice
24 Mahuta – Ass Maori

Dump

Hawkins
Barker
Tizard
Samuels
Duynhoven
Field
Ririnui

This would leave a slightly smaller executive of 24, which would allow people such as Shane Jones or Darren Hughes to be considered for promotion mid way through the term.

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25 Responses to “The new Clark Cabinet”

  1. tim barclay () says:

    If she does a resuffle as timid as this then I will be one happy chappy and Labour can drift into opposition with this lineup. I would not be promoting any MPs who have lost the support of their communities but I hope she does. It is time Goff handled a tough portfolio like Education. Annette King can be retired and so can Jim Sutton. Lianne Dalziel can come back and put her skills to work. Dyson can go as well. Barnett can be promoted into Cabinet. Jones can be an Associate Ministerm for Justice and Treaty. There might be some other talent in there but it is all looking a rather tired bunch of losers to me.

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  2. nevertrustahippy () says:

    Darren Hughes. Even if he wasn’t a ginga, why?

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  3. Anita () says:

    Goff: Education

    Would Clark really want to resurrect the ghosts of Rogernomics past?

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  4. Graeme Edgeler () says:

    Sacking Tizard? But how would the culture and heritage live on without her to guide it?

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  5. Chancey Gardiner () says:

    Tim pontificating about a ‘tired bunch of losers’ ?
    Count the votes Tim !. Those tired losers kicked butt !. Just only wish you were a defeated candidate this time around !. Maybe NP could see sense
    The losers are the national party, Labour only dropped 1% in the vote from last time.
    In 1990 national won 47% with Jim Bolger , so Don is only 2nd rate with 39%,plus Jim was still PM after 93 with 35% and again in 96 with 34%. ( Thanks again for bringing in MMP Jim).

    Not that DPF will be asked about his views on Cabinet members, since he lost badly in his campaign, he wouldnt even be asked if it was a NP cabinet.
    Of course the cabinet is ELECTED by the LP caucus, so helen may not get all her wishes ( she actually would like to appoint all just like the NP PM would) . Previous NP cabinets have been mostly full of the PMs cronies, as that is what keeps the PM in office.

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  6. David Farrar () says:

    Darren has been a sucessful whip, and is backed by both the left and right factions so would do well in a caucus ballot.

    As for Goff there is a risk as he brought fees in, but the student unions love Labour at the moment, and Goff would be able to sort out many of the messes Mallard and Maharye have left behind.

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  7. Peter Metcalfe () says:

    Benson-Pope for Justice?!?

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  8. Chancey Gardiner () says:

    Conceding a week early David ?
    Surely you would be listing Dons lineup ? or would that have too many tired faces ?
    But I bet none in the NP are scouting ministerial homes !

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  9. Adolf Fiinkensein () says:

    Surely you mean Benson-Pope for Sports Minister. Kick boxing and tennis. I was struck by the number of cabinet prospects who have been involved in some scandal or other. Perhaps it’s the drinks cabinet?

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  10. David Farrar () says:

    In theory the Cabinet is elected by the Labour Party Caucus but if Gardiner knew anything about how it really works, you would know that the Labour PM traditionally circulates a list of her preferences, which to date have had a 100% success rate.

    And you really do come over as a moron in your attempt to get cheap shots in by saying “Not that DPF will be asked about his views on Cabinet members, since he lost badly in his campaign”.

    This implies that if Mark had won Wgtn Central, then Helen would be taking my advice. Idiot.

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  11. David Farrar () says:

    Chancy – if you stopped trolling for a second, you would know that I predicted the day after the election it was unlikely National would pick up a seat on specials, and that without an extra seat a Labour-led Government is almost inevitable.

    I have considered blogging how I think National should allocate portfolios and rankings. However I concluded that to do so would be unhealthy for me.

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  12. Cadmus () says:

    DPF….The lineup makes sence, you maybe headhunted by the Labour Party! Or have you been already?

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  13. B.J. Melville () says:

    I would have Benson-Pope in the SIS portfolio… that tennis ball trick would come in handy for maintaining silence.

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  14. Zippy Gonzales () says:

    DPF, I disagree that Helen Clark will choose a smaller Executive. It will be a minimum of 26 people in order to have a majority in caucus. Trying to run a minority government will be tricky enough without throwing your clout away on the Labour caucus.

    Dover Samuels will remain in Cabinet. His List placing at No. 10 all but guarantees it. Forestry or Civil Defence would probably keep him happy.

    Clark will probably put more chicks in cabinet too, in order to rub some differentiation with National into the mix. Winnie Laban might get Women’s Affairs or Georgina Beyer the Senior Citizens portfolio, due to her time as Chairperson of the Social Services select committee.

    There are still plenty of Silly Walk Ministries yet to fill and I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see a Cabinet of up to 30.

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  15. Zippy Gonzales () says:

    DPF, I disagree that Helen Clark will choose a smaller Executive. It will be a minimum of 26 people in order to have a majority in caucus. Trying to run a minority government will be tricky enough without throwing your clout away on the Labour caucus.

    Dover Samuels will remain in Cabinet. His List placing at No. 10 all but guarantees it. Forestry or Civil Defence would probably keep him happy.

    Clark will probably put more chicks in cabinet too, in order to rub some differentiation with National into the mix. Winnie Laban might get Women’s Affairs or Georgina Beyer the Senior Citizens portfolio, due to her time as Chairperson of the Social Services select committee.

    There are still plenty of Silly Walk Ministries yet to fill and I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see a Cabinet of up to 30.

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  16. jocko () says:

    Strange – no Minister for Energy!!
    Just when the country has huge decisions ahead of it.
    On second thoughts maybe it’s a good call – let everyone get on with it – rather than have it reserved for Jeanette.

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  17. Oscar128 () says:

    David
    What about agriculture?

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  18. David Farrar () says:

    I didn’t list every portfolio. I more did it from the point of view of the major portfolio each Minister would have.

    Sutton can’t keep agriculture. I would give it to O’Connor.

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  19. rightkiwi () says:

    Goff will not agree to relinquish foreign affairs to take a portfolio – education – he had 15 years ago.

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  20. Anita () says:

    Rightkiwi,

    Giving up Foreign Affairs allows Goff to stay in NZ and strengthen his power base within caucus for the post-Clark leadership fight. If he wants to be leader he can’t afford to keep Foreign Affairs for the whole of the next three years.

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  21. Craig Ranapia () says:

    Rightkiwi:

    Goff will lobby like stink, then accept whatever Helen condescends to give him. He needs to be seen as a caucus prima donna like he needs a spare anus implanted in the middle of his forehead.

    The most interesting question is whether Cullen will keep the deputy leadership. I’ve heard there’s a lot of post-campaign angst going on behind closed doors, and fairly or not Dr. Sullen is going to wear a lot of the blame. (I don’t think he’s going to lose finance, for no other reason than the only semi-credible replacement will be needed elsewhere.)

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  22. rightkiwi () says:

    Anita/Craig: He may well have to give up Foreign Affairs, but he would refuse education – for reasons on future positioning as much as pride.

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  23. tim barclay () says:

    If Goff does not tackle one of the hard porfolios then he will not deserve to be leader. Perhaps that is her plan. Give him nice easy things to do, so he remains untested with anything difficult.

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  24. rightkiwi () says:

    Tim – Sorry to do a history lesson, but Goff has had hard portfolios and is well tested. He has been Minister of Employment when u/e was very high, a Minister of Housing and, as Minister of Education, introduced student fees. As a result, he lost his seat in 1990 and the Foreign Affairs portfolio from 1999 was seen as reward for an old veteran. The Labour Left does not want him back in social policy because they see him as all too well tested and right wing and liable to take one of those portfolios in directions they would not like.

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  25. Michael () says:

    I don’t think Pete Hodgson will keep transport if he gets health – they’re both way too big. I’d give Goff transport (auckland MP) and see what he makes of it. I think Maharey will get some sort of economics role (economic development?). I’d like to see David Parker get an associate posiiton outside Cabinet, in the Commerce/Energy field, maybe even Atttorney-General, as he is very able. Holding onto Otago was always a big ask.

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