Beehive Poll Rigging
The Dominion Post yesterday ran a poll (well a survey) on whether John Key would be the next PM. It’s quite unscientific, but still generates a story with the results.
Now the interesting thing is most of yesterday the poll had around 55% saying Key would be. Then suddenly there was a massive influx of votes saying no – you could see them flow in at a rate of more than one per second. Strongly suggesting an automated rigging of the poll. A quick investigation found the poll was not banning repeating voting from the same IP address, so the Dom Post were alerted to this rigging.
They published today that overall 63% said John Key would not be the next Prime Minister, but 17,000 of those votes came from parliamentary computers. If you remove all parliamentary votes, then that drops to 45%, with a majority, 55%, saying he will be the next PM.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:14 am
labourites over-reacting and subverting an indicative [yet peripheral] aspect of the wider democratic process?
No surprises there. It’s now an ingrained part of their alarming and erratic culture.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:16 am
Labour drones following the example of their leadership’s levels of honesty
February 1st, 2007 at 7:53 am
come now, I am sure Sonic will be on soon to explain that this merely indicates the true degree of support the Government enjoys amongst the many (surprisingly many!) parliamentary workers for its enlightened policies.
and while we’re at it, has the party paid the money back or sacked Field yet Sonic?
February 1st, 2007 at 8:01 am
Stuffing the Stuff Ballot Box. Oh dear me we have been lead to believe that in the past Labour Branch and Regoinal Election have had the Ballot Box Stuffed, but to Stuff The Stuff Ballot box in such a ham fisted way showes that
1/ They thought they would not get caught( Pledge Card Mentality)
2/ They did not realize how dumb they would look if they got caught( Phillip Fields Mentality)
This whole exercise to me sums up the present Government.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:33 am
I think the final results also included a union email campaign to rig the poll.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:50 am
Nothing to worry about as long as the bastards can’t get their corrupt little hands on our ballot papers come 2008.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:52 am
Obviously Sonic had a quiet day on the blogs yesterday – he was “otherwise engaged” at the behest of his political mistresses!
February 1st, 2007 at 8:54 am
Amazing how obsessed some of you chaps are with little old me.
For the record, and for anyone who cares, I did not even know this poll existed until I read this thread.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:58 am
So the story becomes how the Labour Party tried to rig an online poll using taxpayers money who paid for the bandwidth and the computing resources.
February 1st, 2007 at 9:00 am
One can legitimately ask whether this is the proper use of parliamentary resources by Labour.
Look forward to the response from Sonic and other sycophants.
It seems they have learned nothing from their election rort fiasco …. or perhaps they have!
February 1st, 2007 at 9:10 am
Wow, this is totally worthwhile news guys. I think, the fact that this happened indicates there is at least 1 person in parliament with too much time on their hands. And that there are a whole lot of Kiwiblog users with equally too much time on their hands.
February 1st, 2007 at 9:11 am
A related Stuff.co.nz poll had 80.9 per cent of 4000 voters supporting Mr Key’s view about a growing New Zealand “underclass”.
And to think I only rated Key’s speech 7 out of 10. Perhaps 7.5 is a more appropriate score.
February 1st, 2007 at 9:31 am
Actualy Zen you did rate it 7.5 – it’s just all those other faked ratings skewed your score.
February 1st, 2007 at 10:19 am
Danyl McLauchlan, where are you yooohoooo !
You had a lot to say about supposed rigging of the petition against retrospective legislation. Anything to say on this?
February 1st, 2007 at 10:23 am
Pledge Cards- $500,000.00
Caught Speeding $0
Keeping Taito’s vote $0.00388187 per second
Getting caught using Parliamentary staff to rig a public opinion poll?
PRICELESS!!!
There are some things in life that money can’t buy, for everything else there is the Tax Surplus.
February 1st, 2007 at 10:29 am
It was probably the same person responsible for providing “accurate” benefit and crime stats.
February 1st, 2007 at 10:39 am
The difference David C is that we are paying those paliarmentary workers salaries. They should be running the country, not trying to subvert an online poll to make the current PM look good – on the other hand, I in particular work for a Private company, whether or not I post here is between myself and my employer.
If you dont see the difference, then you are obviously a socialist.
Or Helen Clark
February 1st, 2007 at 10:42 am
DavidC
“Wow, this is totally worthwhile news guys. I think, the fact that this happened indicates there is at least 1 person in parliament with too much time on their hands. And that there are a whole lot of Kiwiblog users with equally too much time on their hands.”
Big difference though. I am paying for the parliamentary staff to play their sad little games. I doubt I pay the wages of too many Kiwiblog users.
February 1st, 2007 at 10:49 am
I’m at Melbourne Uni, taking a course at the Medical School. And this seems to be a spectacular endorsement of my point that online polls are utterly worthless.
I also had a letter to the editor published in the Dom Post the other week attacking their story about their online poll that ‘proved’ ‘most New Zealanders’ supported Andertons comments about Bush and Iraq.
It’s always nice to be vindicated in such a spectacular manner.
February 1st, 2007 at 10:52 am
“If you dont see the difference, then you are obviously a socialist.
Or Helen Clark”
Ya got me. I’m really Helen.
And you might be paying their wages, but you are also paying my wages. I’m a public servant. That means I work for the Government of the time – which (and it pains you all this point) is a Labour Government. Thus I work for the Labour party…I’m sure you can see where I’m going.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:00 am
Yes David C, I see were you are going and thank you for proving my point. Now get back to work – we are not paying you to skew public opinion, we are paying you to run our country – how about for a change you and your beloved Labour Government do that.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:13 am
It was Labour employees? I’m surprised – I’d assumed it was simply Don and his mates getting a bit of cheap revenge.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:24 am
What isnt shown is how much of Keys support came from Parliament.
Its well known that electorate agents are busy on talkback lines plugging the line of the day.
Plus DPF seems to have more info about the timing of the voting than is available from the story.
Inside tips from the DOMPOST newsroom ??
February 1st, 2007 at 11:40 am
“Plus DPF seems to have more info about the timing of the voting than is available from the story.
Inside tips from the DOMPOST newsroom ??”
Yeah god forbid he actually has friends…….
February 1st, 2007 at 11:53 am
Everyone knows DPF doesn’t have friends – that’s why he organises bloggers drinks…
February 1st, 2007 at 12:18 pm
Hayman – while I encourage all media to leak to me, my info does not come from the media. Maybe it comes from the Beehive
February 1st, 2007 at 2:07 pm
Bloody typical. There is fear in the eyes of those Labour scum bags occupying the halls of Parliament. The time of the revolution is coming …
Out onto the streets they must go.
February 1st, 2007 at 2:16 pm
Surely the real story is that Parliament is employing dumbass luddites who’ve never heard of IPs, server logs, etc.
Don’t worry about poll rigging, folks. This is the online equivalent of voting, going to your car, sticking on a joke shop moustache and an overcoat, and trying to convince the polling officer you’re your own distant cousin Luigi
How on earth did they think that flooding the DomPost site wouldn’t get noticed?!
No wonder NZ is light years behind the rest of the world in terms of Internet services and online democracy.
February 1st, 2007 at 2:23 pm
Still, you have to respect the National Party Research unit for voting 3000 times… That’s commitment!
February 1st, 2007 at 2:25 pm
Still 3400 came from Nat computers.
February 1st, 2007 at 4:24 pm
David C:
You won’t be working for the next National Government. I’d start upskilling and thinking about what I can contribute to the real world, if I were you.
February 1st, 2007 at 4:32 pm
I’m ok with not working for the National Government Mr. Prick. I’ve already turned down one job offer from them so it’s not as if they don’t want me.
I think I have that disorder that prevents you from working for National, shit, what’s it called, you know the one. Ah yeah, morals.
February 2nd, 2007 at 7:58 am
“I think I have that disorder that prevents you from working for National, shit, what’s it called, you know the one. Ah yeah, morals.
”
Considering the Labour party has consistently attacked what, for centuaries, have been classed as morals, then the only conclusion I can draw is that you are confusing the concept of morals and ideology.
As far as morals and ethics, Labour have almost none. Any internal or self ethical regulation that once existed has been replaced by expediency and equivalence.
February 2nd, 2007 at 9:09 am
David C:
Considering you have have identified yourself as a public servant, you probably should read this: http://tinyurl.com/2yr23d
Particularly the section titled “Individual Comment” where you will learn the definition of unacceptable contribution to any public debate or discussion.
You are duty bound to uphold a convention of political neutrality, and I shouldn’t have to be telling you that.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:05 am
Could it have been that the voting in 2005 in a certain South Auckland electorate was conducted under the Socialists Way that is Vote early and vote often, No Im sure it couldnt be although other people may have a different opinion.
February 2nd, 2007 at 2:21 pm
The more they take part in these polls the better I say. That will leave less time for meddling and making up policies to analyse.
February 2nd, 2007 at 3:23 pm
David C said “I’m a public servant”
Mr. Moses would be horrified by this assertion
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Cheers.