Silly Gordon

September 9th, 2008 at 12:05 pm by David Farrar

There are only 11 questions in the House today. Why? Because forgot or failed to submit his question.

He only gets to ask a primary around once every month, so this was probably his last question before the election. Almost as bad as missing the vote on the anti-smacking bill!

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25 Responses to “Silly Gordon”

  1. GJ (329 comments) says:

    Surely they must have zero credibility left. And these guys want us to believe they can run the country. What with their continual lies and failure to meet very important deadlines. Yes they even forgot to apply for funding and airtime to contest the election campaign. What a joke!

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  2. anonymouse (721 comments) says:

    Or it got rejected as being not within the Ministerial responsibility of whomever it was addressed to, and he decided not to both with a replacement

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  3. first time caller (384 comments) says:

    That Kiwi Party really is going to shatter the glass 5% ceiling

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  4. slightlyrighty (2,475 comments) says:

    No worry. I’d expect question 11 to take up quite some time, especially if Winston is in the house!

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  5. pushmepullu (686 comments) says:

    Perhaps Gordon was out campaigning? The Kiwi Party is a small party and has to work hard to try to get back into Parliament given the unfair electoral laws… maybe cut them a tiny bit of slack?

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  6. glubbster (344 comments) says:

    A vote for the “kiwi party” is a vote taken away from a Nat/Act/United Government. Simple.

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  7. WraithX (283 comments) says:

    Where can I find the list of the questions for today?

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  8. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Debates/QOA/2/f/3/00HOH_OralQuestions-List-of-questions-for-oral-answer.htm

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  9. GJ (329 comments) says:

    pushmepullu: If they were working hard to get re elected don’t you think they would have checked the deadlines for the election funding? To many stupid mistakes to enable me to take them seriously. Besides Copeland has no right to occupy a seat that was won by United Future’s party vote (and I am certainly not a UF fan). Therefore he carries zero credibility in that area also!

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  10. dave (988 comments) says:

    Questions are right here

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  11. WraithX (283 comments) says:

    Thanks heaps toad and dave.

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  12. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    wotta idjit. GJ, you forgot to mention Copeland forgetting to cast his vote on the Section 59 bill as well!

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  13. Buggerlugs (1,592 comments) says:

    He was waiting for God to tell him what to ask…
    (hey – Waiting for Godto…Beckett for dyslexics!)

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  14. Chuck Bird (4,922 comments) says:

    A vote for the “kiwi party” is a vote taken away from a Nat/Act/United Government. Simple.

    It is not that simple. I am strongly opposed to the anti smacking legislation that John Key supported. Therefore I would not vote National or United Future. I am also conservative on a number of other social issues so I would be reluctant to vote ACT.

    I listened to all the party leaders who choose to attend a Focus on the Family Forum hosted by Family First. Rodney was asked if ACT would support conscience or moral issues being decided by binding referendum rather than a conscience vote by MPs. Rodney said he would support such a policy. I will be emailing Rodney and hopefully his view can be made policy.

    Rodney is liberal and will have a different view on a number of moral issues than I and many other voters. However, I will take him at his word that he respects others views who differ from him. In comparison Key considers the view of other see things different than him and to use his word crap.

    If ACT will not make referenda policy I will have no other choice than to vote for a conservative party even if it stands little chance of success. It is either than or not vote.

    If National misses by a narrow margin I hope National may learn a lesson and treat the conservative voter with respect not to mention that vast majority of parents.

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  15. first time caller (384 comments) says:

    Chuck, if you want more of the same Govt then abstain or vote Labour. If you want to change to a Conservative Govt, then you do have choices but they aren’t Labour, Green, Progressive, or NZF.

    If National misses by the narrow margin National may “learn a lesson” But the rest of the country? Do they really want to suffer?

    Chuck, do it for your country!

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  16. Chuck Bird (4,922 comments) says:

    First time caller what choice do I have if I want a change to a conservative government?

    I do not believe that it is National under John Key. Have you seen his interview in GayNZ?

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  17. GJ (329 comments) says:

    Chuck Bird: You sound very similar to me. However I strongly disagree with first time caller in regards abstaining. Have you checked out The Family Party? If not do so at http://www.familyparty.org.nz I don’t believe that you will be disappointed if you have a good look.

    I believe that they were represented at that forum. So you must have heard Richard Lewis’s speech which to me reads very well. I read it here from an e-mail release sent out this morning from Family First: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/P00809/S00094.htm

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  18. Grant Michael McKenna (1,160 comments) says:

    Gordon who?

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  19. Mr Dennis (348 comments) says:

    GJ: Your link seems to be broken. Richard Lewis’ speech is here:
    http://www.familyparty.org.nz/index/press-releases/press-releases-sep-2008/richard-lewis-speech-to-nz-forum-on-the-family

    Kiwi seem to be announcing whatever they think will get votes, regardless of practicality. They are trying to take the Outdoor Recreation votes from United Future. If you read their latest policy, they are now planning to ban aerial 1080 drops. Now this would be a great idea if they had a serious alternative in mind, but they haven’t mentioned what they propose to replace it with. And people have been trying to find an alternative for decades. Just another ban, let the possums go rampant, who cares about the consequences… If you were considering voting them, check whether they have an alternative in mind before falling for this one. If they have, they should release it in their official policy so we can assess it rather than just voting from emotion.
    http://sjdennis.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/kiwi-party-would-ban-1080/

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  20. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    DPF – I received an email from Gordon Copeland’s Parliamentary office this afternoon that explains all, including the absenteeism on the Oral Question.

    Gordon has actually been very busy over the last fortnight doing this!

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  21. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    Mr Dennis said: If you read their latest policy, [the Kiwi Party] are now planning to ban aerial 1080 drops. Now this would be a great idea if they had a serious alternative in mind, but they haven’t mentioned what they propose to replace it with. And people have been trying to find an alternative for decades.

    How about ground-based pest control Mr D – a Green Party solution that doesn’t indiscriminately poison non-target species. As I said, about the only policy point the the Green Party and the Kiwi Party agree on.

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  22. Mr Dennis (348 comments) says:

    Ground-based pest control works in easy to access areas, and has added bonuses that it is fun, provides employment, keeps people fit and you can sell the fur. But how do you propose getting people through all the bush, especially the hardest to access areas? We had ground based control for years when there was a market for skins, and possum numbers continued to increase.

    I am not saying don’t stop using 1080. There is nothing wrong with that as a policy provided you provide an alternative. And Kiwi provide no alternative. I am sure the Greens have thought about it more than them, I didn’t think you were wanting to ban 1080 actually, just restrict its use, am I correct in that? If so that would be a far more sensible policy than Kiwi’s knee-jerk vote buying.

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  23. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    Mr D – the Greens want to avoid the aerial deployment of 1080. We would actually like avoid it’s ground-based use too, due to its non-target toxicity.

    But the reality at the moment is that there are some areas of the country where the possum pest issue has no current alternative control method.

    The Greens strongly support researching alternative pest control methods with view to phasing out 1080 altogether.

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  24. Mr Dennis (348 comments) says:

    Thanks Toad, as I thought the green policy is far more sensible and realistic.

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  25. Caniwi (4 comments) says:

    there is nothing sensible about the greens…we’re not even supposed to be showering under their watch.
    I thought the Kiwi on 1080 was good. Their policy reads they want to reclassify tar,shamy,deer, to game animals from pests and get an industry around it. THe deer industry was born from privatization control – it’ll work again for possums if there’s a buck in it for trappers.
    There are american fur companies lining up to take the pelts that would fetch up to $30 each alongside the mink already being sold. I spoke with Gordon Copeland and he said it would cost less to put a $5 bounty on a pelt and you’d be paying for results, than to keep dropping 1080 – the only country to support the one factory in the US that produces the crap.
    Greens – the last thing we need is more committees sitting around on our taxes ‘ researching alternatives’. Just get it done for a change. The greens are labour’s henchmen at best, nothing green about them.

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