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Steve Otto(North Shore)

Woo-hoo, here we go!
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May 4, 2024 9:55am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

20 million illegals get an early warning.
If the authorities don’t co-operate they will be defunded.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/trump-says-he-will-deport-20-million-people-if-elected/ss-AA1o5iUk#image=16
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May 4, 2024 9:57am
- Inandout
  
  SO, Biden is counting on these illegals to vote Dem so Trump should have held off until after November.
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:14am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    How can they vote?
    
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    May 4, 2024 11:12am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Some States give them Drivers Licence’s so its possible they could Register to Vote using those as photo ID.
      Some States also require a Social Security number and some, but not many, also want Proof of Citizenship
      Also they get counted in the Census.
      In Congress, each seat is allocated by population so its theoretical a State could pick up extra Congress seats.
      That can make a big difference
      We have seen some States lose seats as people migrate to other States
      
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      May 4, 2024 11:41am
    - MCōs
      
      I read that in the UK the Johnson administration passed a law requiring ID to vote. Boris went to vote at some local election yesterday and was turned away because he didn’t have an appropriate ID.
      https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-turned-away-from-polling-station-after-forgetting-id-13127865
      
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      May 4, 2024 11:53am
      - kowtow
        
        And ?
        
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        May 4, 2024 12:01pm
      - MCōs
        
        Mildly amusing, I thought
        
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        May 4, 2024 12:08pm
      - softail 1450
        
        MCos , Boris may have left his drivers license in Ukraine when he went there and told the cross dressing cocaine user Zelenskyy “don’t sign that peace agreement we’ll give you everything you need to defeat Russia” them promptly left Ukraine in his lifelong quest to find a barber with 20~20 vision.
        
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        May 4, 2024 4:30pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The dead and the tenfold ballots.
      You know, the boxes under the tables when the counters told to go home.
      No links, it is all for public view.
      
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      May 4, 2024 7:02pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It won’t look good for Democrats when illegals are caught voting.
    Nov 5th will be quite different from 2020.
    
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    May 4, 2024 11:14am
    - jkt
      
      How?
      Biden going to hand over the key if he loses the election!
      Or Harris will do what the spineless Pence was too chicken to do?
      
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      May 4, 2024 5:09pm
- Stellaboxer
  
  Hmm as usual misinformation. He didn’t say he would deport 20 million immigrants as stated in the article he said he would deport illegal undocumented immigrants, but he what’s in little words right.
  
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  May 4, 2024 5:21pm
DimChappie

Hi folks, I have made this guide for anyone wanting to complain about the One News/Verian poll item of April 29. Deadline for complaints to TVNZ is 20 working days from April 29. TVNZ deserve thousands of complaints for the shameless lies and propoganda presented as news.
Here are the links to make a compaint, first to TVNZ then later with the Broadcasting Standards Authority after TVNZ rejects all your arguments.

Here is the One News item with a youtube transcript (I have listed best extracted quotes below). Time references will not match the original so you are advised to give general references such as “near the beginning/end’’

https://youtu.be/jrp2RkMimYo

Broadcasting Standards Codebook is here, print out standards 5, 6 and 8 – balance, accuracy and fairness.

https://www.bsa.govt.nz/assets/Uploads/BSA-Code-of-Broadcasting-Standards-Screen_FINAL.pdf

I found plenty of breaches of the accuracy and fairness standards. Just list a few under each standard with quotes from the transcript and send them through the TVNZ website here.

NOTE I had difficulty getting through the Captcha stage and had to use a Mac to send it:
https://corporate.tvnz.co.nz/contact/make-a-formal-complaint/

Most outrageous quotes from One News Verian poll item 6pm April 29:
(The big standout fraud IMHO is they presented a snapshot poll as decisive with the real election still about 3 years away! Plus this is a news item not an opinion piece, yeah right)

Maiki Sherman:

1. “Here comes the turbulence. ACT is continuing its free fall, now on 7%, down for our fourth poll in a row and bang, NZ First is down and out on four. Winston Peters would not be in Parliament in what could be Mayday for the Coalition.’’

(ACT got 8.6% of votes in the 2023 general election, so a fall to 7%, even in the real world, could not be rightly described as free fall. )

“Winston Peters is plummeting with his party down to 4% so there it is, a nightmare poll for the coalition government which has been in power for just 5 months.’’

In the go-kart scene, Maiki says: “Just 5 months in the driver’s seat, National is hitting speed bumps, NZ First is booted from Parliament and the ACT party continues to take a licking.’’

4. Speaking with Simon Dallow, Sherman says: “This poll will absolutely rock the entire parliament. You will have MPs from political parties across the spectrum sending “OMG What’s up’’ messages to their caucus group chats right this very minute and the reason is that this is largely unprecedented – to have a new coalition government just 5 months into power polled out of power is almost unheard of.’’
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May 4, 2024 9:59am
- Notsofast
  
  A classic meritless DEI appointment of a woman child. An embarrassment to the country.
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:21am
  - All_on_Red
    
    DEI =Didn’t Earn It
    
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    May 4, 2024 11:12am
    - Chris Nisbet
      
      Division
      Exclusion
      Intolerance
      
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      May 4, 2024 11:44am
    - The Housekeeper
      
      Deluded, Entitled, Insane
      
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      May 4, 2024 12:36pm
      - Master Mariner
        
        Well that cleared up the acronym . Cheers.
        
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        May 4, 2024 12:55pm
- mogg
  
  Forget it, it should be called Labour goes up one point and TV one’s Maiki Sherman wets her knickers on live tv.
  
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  May 4, 2024 11:14am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  I just fail too see how Acts support has gone too Labour, I know some Labour voters voted NZF to force Peters on the Nats, so yea they probably will drop below 5%
  
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  May 4, 2024 12:20pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Biden Administration purposely shipped confidential documents to Mar a Lago AFTER Trump left office.
“By fighting back, Trump is sending a strong message that he will not be silenced, and neither should anyone else.”

https://www.thepoliticalglobe.com/unmasking-the-bias-exploring-trumps-bold-move-to-dismiss-jacks-lawsuit-05-03-2024/?
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May 4, 2024 10:01am
- All_on_Red
  
  Additional reporting here
  https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/04/28/new-bombshell-evidence-emerges-was-trump-set-up-in-classified-docs-saga-n4928572
  
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  May 4, 2024 11:12am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Sure some documents had to be moved, but the Biden admin slipped in others.
    
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    May 4, 2024 11:18am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

It is clear Biden is destroying America.
“Biden’s administration aims to release approximately 1,000 migrants per week from federal custody and provide them with temporary housing and transportation to various cities across the nation.”
America has homeless Veterans. Were is Joe getting this temporary housing from?

https://www.thepoliticalglobe.com/breaking-the-border-bidens-plan-to-flood-american-cities-with-paroled-migrants-05-01-2024/?
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May 4, 2024 10:05am
Maggy Wassilieff

Looks like the Green Party has already de-platformed Darleen Tana.

https://www.greens.org.nz/our_people

She is still an MP , (as is James Shaw until tomorrow)
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May 4, 2024 10:06am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Off the Christmas Card list too.
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:11am
  - kowtow
    
    You think those Reds do Christmas , more likely they’d do some other ancient thing like , let’s see , kwanzaa or even more “traditional” the one that St Jax of the Plague made into a PH.
    
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    May 4, 2024 12:05pm
- slightlyrighty
  
  Unpersonned? How Orwellian!
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:13am
- Chuck Bird
  
  I believe that she is still getting paid.
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:13am
  - goNZ1
    
    A number of the Green MPs are obviously mentally unwell and are in the wrong career.
    I object to paying misbehaving MPs their full salary while sulking at home and if they aren’t well then they should be made to apply for the sickness benefit like the rest of us peasants
    
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    May 4, 2024 11:21am
    - G152
      
      They cant be green on the sickness benefit. Under payed
      
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      May 4, 2024 12:07pm
- Aquarius
  
  OMG.
  I went and looked …….
  I just wish I could ‘unsee’ that appalling lot !
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:24am
- PurplePen
  
  A while back their default photo on the main page was a group photo which still had Gucci Garahman in it having actually left. I note that the group photo has gone. Presumably too difficult to maintain one that is accurate.
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:45am
  - Kiwiguy
    
    Yes, it would require the Greens to employ a full time photographer.
    
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    May 4, 2024 11:57am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    [Mod: please use their correct names]
    
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    May 4, 2024 5:30pm
- peterwn
  
  Green Party needs to update its values – ie delete “Engage respectfully, without personal attacks”
  
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  May 4, 2024 11:14am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  They are both still getting paid.
  
  The assault complaint against Genter today has the potential to really screw the greens up, it’s quite possible she may well have to resign and create a by election, if so Lsbour eould probably win.
  
  Another thing people have forgotten about the Mondays poll, at present TPM has a three seat overhang, giving the left an extra three seats, on these polls they would lose that three seats at 4%
  
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  May 4, 2024 12:27pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I don’t believe that the story today is sufficiently serious to cause her further problems. I think that it is unlikely that she will resign. This is not a problem on the scale of Golriz Ghahraman.
    
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    May 4, 2024 12:52pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      It’s assault
      
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      May 4, 2024 2:23pm
    - Ra Henare
      
      The public pressure may make her remaining untenable.
      Ie the opposition will keep dragging up her behaviour when castigating the GReens.
      
      ie Greens cant be trusted to be civil etc etc
      They dont care about you, they only care about cycleways.
      
      etc etc
      
      Easy meat in political warfare.
      
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      May 4, 2024 2:43pm
  - alwyn.a
    
    “at present TPM has a three seat overhang, giving the left an extra three seats, on these polls they would lose that three seats at 4%”
    They wouldn’t lose any seats. Every seat they hold is for an electorate and, as long as they won all those electorates, they would still have just as many seats.
    It wouldn’t mater if their party vote was zero and they didn’t get even one party vote.
    
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    May 4, 2024 2:18pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Yes they would, the parliament would be 120 seats not 123, this e seats must come from somewhere, TPM will get the same amount of seats but they have 4%, that extra 2% is coming from somewhere, where ever that 2% comes from who loses the 2% will lose seats, I suggest it will come from Labour
      
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      May 4, 2024 2:26pm
trout

The news report on the knife attack at the Bayfair Mall yesterday described one of the persons involved as a ‘female youth’. Is this more ‘gender bending’ or just ignorance?
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May 4, 2024 10:14am
- Ghost
  
  They’re just reporting what the police statement said. Facebook
  
  Nothing wrong with female youth, I think today people look for issues to create where there isn’t any
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:20am
  - Cassandra
    
    Girl? Or has that become a four letter word?
    
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    May 4, 2024 10:27am
    - Ghost
      
      To be honest who cares, people are so caught up on the words female youth that they are forgetting we”ve just had a stabbing in a mall by a kid, that is what is important in this story, not making a molehill out of the wording. It’s nothing new to call a girl a female. Are they not a female?
      
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      May 4, 2024 10:33am
      - goNZ1
        
        Was she wearing a burqa?
        
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        May 4, 2024 11:22am
    - Drone
      
      The term ‘female youth’ is likely intentional. It would signify that the person is a human female versus a ‘girl’ which can also be a boy who thinks he’s a girl.
      
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      May 4, 2024 11:54am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        The police call them youths all the time, it’s more an age group thing, it just covers the whole age group, but there is male snd female youth
        
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        May 4, 2024 12:32pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      The police do usually call them youths, in this case it is a female youth, you don’t say girl youth or boy youth
      
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      May 4, 2024 12:29pm
      - Jack5
        
        Saturday night and time to fight the Woke …
        
        Modifying word use can be a political tool, as satirised by Orwell in his novel 1989, and as in the Woke drive to use plural pronouns in place of “her” and “him,” “his” and “hers”.
        
        Some, right or wrong, accused Auckland police of bias over the clash between Posie Parker supporters and LGBTQ people. This adds relevance to police use of an unusual meaning for “youth” as a noun.
        
        Non-standard use of the noun “youth” by the police in the instance discussed here and in General Debate last night was: either sloppy word use; or it opened the possibility of a sought person being of indeterminate gender; or it expressed a position on gender politics.
        
        “Youth” as an adjective has long covered both young males and young females. It generically means “the young”.
        
        “Youth” as a noun, however, mainly, and almost overwhelmingly, refers to young males.
        
        There’s been a trend in our legislation to use “young persons” in place of “youth”. I’m guessing this is because “youth” as a noun is regarded as generally meaning just young males.
        
        On its Justice Department web site, the Youth Court uses “youth” as as an adjective, and refers to those who appear before it as “young persons”.
        
        The legislation under which the court operates says it may be cited as “The Oranga Tamariki Act 1989 or “the Children’s and Young People’s Well-being Act 1989”.
        
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        May 4, 2024 10:33pm
  - Lara
    
    Agree, female is an adjective.
    
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    May 4, 2024 12:05pm
    - civil serpent
      
      It’s a legal expression: denotes someone aged 17 and under. They appear in the Youth Court.
      
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      May 4, 2024 12:26pm
      - Ghost
        
        Yeah, she is 16
        
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        May 4, 2024 12:49pm
Pope Punctilious II

So ratepayers will have to pay for repairing damage caused to a Hamilton sculpture by Anzac Day protestors:
https://www.waikatotimes.co.nz/nz-news/350265302/ratepayers-foot-bill-tongue-dog-sculpture-protest

“Kate Hayward, the acting secretary for the Palestine Human Rights Campaign Waikato, said she had no knowledge of who might have placed the dye in the water, but would try to find out. She hoped people will focus on the intentions of the protesters.”

Shouldn’t activist groups be required to pay for any damage their protests directly cause? I’m all in favour of free speech, but I draw the line at vandalism.
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May 4, 2024 10:16am
- Pineapple Lumps
  
  Activists must pay for vandalism, but they aren’t activists if the are protesting for causes against:
  – democracy
  – heteronormative society
  – Christian values
  – Jews
  – White people
  – meritocracy and equality
  – USA
  – family values
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:24am
  - Gravelroad
    
    And livestock farming.
    (Rural land used for growing grapes, hops and legal cannabis products not included.)
    
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    May 4, 2024 10:56am
I remember when

So that Kaipara Mayor has some doubts about ‘climate change.’
When are people going to recognise that weather and climate change can be handled by councils in much the same way.
What ‘climate change’ actions can a council take that will prevent future weather events?
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May 4, 2024 10:23am
- PurplePen
  
  He got piled on for merely saying he had doubts. Surely anyone is allowed to doubt a science that isn’t yet definitive about is topic.
  
  In 1543, Copernicus radical theory in which Earth and the planets rotated around the Sun took more than a century to become widely accepted. Kepler in 1619 discovered planetary orbits were eliptical. ALL scientists didn’t believe him. He asked them numerous times to come and look through his telescope and see, but they wouldn’t and refused to be swayed from the consensus that they were circular.
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:49am
  - Mike
    
    Ah, you are using the famous ‘Galileo Gambit’.
    
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    May 4, 2024 11:02am
  - rangitoto
    
    Copernicus wasn’t the first to propose the Earth and other planets orbited the Sun. The earliest documented claim of this scenario appears to be the ancient Greek astronomer Aristarchus of Samos. Aristarchus also came up with methods of determining the distance to the Moon and the Sun. His Solar distance method, although mathematically correct, gave wildly wrong results due to the requirement of measuring angles to far greater accuracy than was possible in those days,
    
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    May 4, 2024 11:25am
    - Master Mariner
      
      I would guess No telescope either ?
      
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      May 4, 2024 1:01pm
- All_on_Red
  
  They could improve the stormwater systems.
  During the weather bomb we had a couple of years ago it was notable the modern subdivisions like Stonefields, Hobsonville, Long Bay and Milldale handled it very well.
  These events are going to happen- although that one was exacerbated by the Tongan Volcano.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDQ-EfqTViM
  
  Note that this clip was made in October BEFORE the weather bomb arrived in December
  
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  May 4, 2024 11:26am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Know we have the Indonesian Volcano which will result in extra Rain.
    Simple science really and great sunsets / rises in the right area.
    
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    May 4, 2024 1:02pm
Benedict Yu

Just reflecting on Julie Anne Genter….

YouTube contains many of her questions in Parliament between 2012 and 2017. She devoted five years to attacking Transport Ministers for building motorways instead of cycleways.

This is one example, but you can use up your entire Saturday watching more. 😂

https://youtu.be/bFnF-oaNzmU?si=1FdijYQD2x8wF2Ur

She was particularly angered by the Transmission Gully motorway, claiming that it would result in net economic costs. It took me two minutes to locate the analysis that shows that the Wellington northern corridor will have positive benefits.

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/assets/projects/wellington-northern-corridor/docs/summary.pdf

Bizarrely, she claimed that trucks and emergency vehicles would not be able to reach Wellington in an earthquake because “the grades are too steep”. 🙄🙄😳 (She might want to visit Arthur’s Pass. She can stand at the lookout and watch the trucks climb the Otira Viaduct 😂.)

https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/letters-to-the-editor/6936948/Letter-Don-t-let-facts-get-in-the-way

Also, she has a track record in Parliament of quoting from obscure “experts” to support her arguments that cycleways will deliver more benefits than motorways.

Why am I telling you this?

Firstly, my hypothesis is that she is angry and frustrated at a government coming to office and resuming rational transport projects.

Secondly, when she had her tantrum in Parliament, she demanded that the National MP “Read the report!”. She made many such demands between 2012 and 2017, tabling in Parliament study after study that apparantly substantiated her beliefs in the evils of motorways.

More seriously, as a small country, New Zealand cannot afford to have transport policy upended every time the government changes. When JAG finally gained power as Associate Transport Minister she ruined any prospect of progressing Wellington transport by insisting that “rapid transit” should be central to Let’s Get Wellington Moving, despite an initial study showing that the costs of light rail would exceed benefits by a factor of 20. 😭😭😭

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/402125/details-of-julie-anne-genter-s-letter-to-phil-twyford-released

https://schooltravel.gw.govt.nz/assets/Documents/1970/01/Public-transport-spine-study-key-results.pdf

In summary, I give JAG high praise for passion. However, her ideas, if adopted, would be dreadful for the nation. I hope that she is never again able to dictate transport policy.
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May 4, 2024 10:25am
- Cassandra
  
  She’s a fanatic. That’s not passion, it’s extremism. And yes, let’s hope she’s never in office.
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:29am
  - Kiwiguy
    
    It’s ideology.
    
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    May 4, 2024 11:58am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  If JAG goes, Celia Wade-Brown (CWB) will take up the Transport- Cycle pathway cudgel, I’m sure.
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:30am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Celia ‘lets stuff the widest safest street in Wellington’ Wade-Brown
    
    Her grand cycleway on The Parade, Island Bay whilst Mayor is the stupidest thing you will ever see. Google Maps The Parade Island Bay and do street view.
    
    Unsafe for motorists, pedestrians, cyclists and even people waiting at bus stops…
    
    Celia is not as frothy at the mouth but equally touched by the Green stick of stupid
    
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    May 4, 2024 10:37am
- KH
  
  I don’t like arguments that focus on personality. But with JAG it does seem it is about her personality.
  Which unfortunately undermines her argument.
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:32am
- Wayne Mapp
  
  Benedict,
  
  A very good reason why the current government needs to get moving real quick on their motorway projects. They have already used up 1/6 of this term. The whole implementation process, including letting contracts and starting the work needs to be done before the end of 2025.
  
  At least in the past, once contracts have been let and work started the work continues. But will that be the case in the future?
  
  The cancellation of the ferry contract after it had been let (I think) might result in the other side doing the same, especially if the actual construction work has barely started.
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:38am
  - MCōs
    
    An interesting read is Peter Fitzsimmons book on the construction of the Sydney opera house
    The NSW labor government knew they had to get construction underway because the opposition was dead against it and wanted to cancel the project
    Stage 1 was built beyond a point of no return even though it required substantial rework
    There was all manner of controversy, but work ploughed on and now they have a fabulous asset for the harbour
    
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    May 4, 2024 11:09am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      IIRC they started building before figuring out how they were going to build the sails.
      
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      May 4, 2024 12:56pm
- rouppe
  
  I reckon she’s also a bit pissed that she wasn’t considered for the co leadership.
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:41am
- PurplePen
  
  Thanks for that. Off topic, I did notice in the youtube video Groan Party members wearing suits and ties!!!
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:57am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    That is because until Trevor Mallard changed the rules, it was compulsory.
    
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    May 4, 2024 12:58pm
    - lifesgood
      
      They need to change the rules back. The Greens and Maori Party members are a disgrace. The way they dress deserves no respect and makes our parliamnent a laughing stock.
      
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      May 4, 2024 1:18pm
- graham
  
  “In summary, I give JAG high praise for passion.”
  
  Benedict, I have previously thought along similar lines. However, her latest display in Parliament now has me thinking along the same lines as Cassandra. Her passion has well and truly crossed the line to fanaticism.
  
  As many others have said recently – if a male MP displayed a similar amount of “passion” towards another MP, what would be the reaction of the media and the general public?
  
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  May 4, 2024 11:15am
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    So, “Batshit passionate” then?
    
    She seems about a couple of years off the flinging poo phase.
    
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    May 4, 2024 12:18pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  JAG is clearly a pain in the arse.
  
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  May 4, 2024 11:38am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The accusation today of assault on another Wellington business woman may well be the last straw
  
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  May 4, 2024 12:35pm
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    Unfortunately, she is an electorate mp, so can’t be quietly ditched and replaced with another weirdo from the green list.
    
    If she can be forced to do the decent thing and be pried out of the seat. There would need to be a by-election.
    
    I predict she will be taking a mental health leave of absence instead, and the media will run sob stories on how she is under immense pressure from the evil patriarchy as a woman and a young mum!
    
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    May 4, 2024 12:52pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      She is not a “young mum”. She is 44 years old.
      
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      May 4, 2024 1:02pm
      - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
        
        It was meant in irony, B. Just as Ardern was always “youth adjacent”!
        
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        May 4, 2024 3:28pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Well if it drags further then ends in court she would probably have too resign, assault on the public is not of good character
      
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      May 4, 2024 2:28pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      She is a bully, so will fight tooth and nail to stop a bi- Election in Rongotai.
      She will also grab as much campaign dosh as she can for 2026. Her actions of late will be brought up then.
      
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      May 4, 2024 4:31pm
KH

The war in Gaza did not start last October and the war in Ukraine goes back more than a couple of years of course.
Here is what happened in Odessa exactly ten years ago.
https://www.southfront.press/anniversary-of-odessa-massacre-how-war-in-ukraine-began/
It went back further than the headline suggests.
These are not geo -political conflicts some like to pretend. Nor is it just a mad dictator.
I see them as yet more ethnic conflicts. Unsolvable.
Mad murderers on all sides.
We should have nothing to do with any of them. It cannot help
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May 4, 2024 10:26am
- All_on_Red
  
  You’re so cute with your Russian Propaganda websites
  
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  May 4, 2024 11:05am
  - KH
    
    @Red. When you don’t have a counter argument to others comments Red your go to is inane scoffing. As above.
    Go on – try a counter, like ‘Israel were always at peace until October’. or ‘Russia and Ukraine until Putin went mad’
    Then we can discuss.
    
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    May 4, 2024 11:52am
    - All_on_Red
      
      I looked at the last article you put up from them about drones.
      It led with a picture of an RPG and I found the analysis very shallow.
      I note how you dont deny it has Russian links.
      I see Nato has banned it too. Iirc they had to change their name because of that.
      ‘Founded in 2015, South Front is a Russian propaganda website that claims to be non-profit and non-partisan.’
      ‘The website lacks transparency as they do not name an owner or editors and articles lack author names and bios.
      In 2016, South Front was accused of being a Russian propaganda tool. In another 2016 article, they were accused of “spreading Russian propaganda during the [U.S.] election.” Finally, in 2017, their Wikipedia page was deleted due to being a non-reliable source.
      South Front does not disclose ownership; however, the domain is registered in Russia, there is an email address with the .ru extension and donations via Paypal are in Russian, “Пожертвовать на southfront@list.ru, Цель: Any amount donation.” In other words, this source does not disclose they are from Russia and try hard to hide that fact. Revenue is derived through donations.’
      https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/south-front/
      
      Getting info on Ukraine and Russia (and Israel) from there and thinking its independent is just dumb.
      How about you get better sources
      
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      May 4, 2024 12:14pm
      - KH
        
        There was the time I posted a vid of Hamas guys shooting at Israeli tanks. So.
        You called me a ‘Jew Hater’s
        Shortly after someone berated me for not showing IDF getting hurt.
        Go figure.
        Shape up.
        
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        May 4, 2024 1:09pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        That’s not true
        You were called that for your other posts
        And aren’t you?
        
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        May 4, 2024 1:47pm
      - Jake Dee
        
        So, what is your rule here?
        Is it that all information that comes from sources that don’t disclose their funding is to be considered false information?
        Is it that all information that comes from sources that are no longer linked to Wikipedia is to be considered false information?
        Is it that all information from a Russian registered website is to be considered false information?
        Are you working with any epistemic rules at all or are you just throwing dust and smoke into the air to stop people from looking at stories contrary to your own?
        Everyone has to consider the reliability of sources, but these are matters of degree not certainty and they should be determined by the source’s reliability over time not by their political alignment.
        Listening to other parties’ perspectives is essential. Just relying on what the MSM tells you about Russia (China, North Korea, the Houthis, Hamas etc. etc.) is just as stupid as relying on Hezbollah to tell you everything you need to know about Israel.
        Check different stories from different perspectives, cross reference them across time for similarities, differences, inconsistencies and gaps.
        If you are unwilling to learn the techniques of mental self defence then you are just asking to be fooled.
        
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        May 4, 2024 2:52pm
      - KH
        
        Maybe share your list of totally reliable sources then Red.
        Of course the criteria is absolute truth.
        (although it might be a big assumption you use sources)
        
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        May 4, 2024 2:54pm
      - KH
        
        Fat finger downtick there Jake. Apology.
        It was in fact a very thoughtful post.
        
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        May 4, 2024 3:24pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Biden sneaking missiles out to Ukraine.

“This kind of ammunition resupply doesn’t come cheap, and the worst part is Biden isn’t doing a damn thing to up the price and make Ukraine pay for the privilege of US arms. Instead, he’s handing over the stockpile of US weaponry and getting nothing back.”

https://thepatriotexpress.com/americanpatriotclub/big-surprise-biden-is-sneaking-missiles-out-of-the-us/?
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May 4, 2024 10:28am
- MCōs
  
  Should have sneaked it out earlier
  
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  May 4, 2024 11:12am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    How do you know he didn’t?
    You know, the 10% for the big guy deals. Catch Hunter when he is not smashed and ask him!
    
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    May 4, 2024 4:33pm
- rangitoto
  
  ATACMS missiles are obsolete and in the process of being replaced by PrSM with the first batch being delivered to the US Army last December. Sending the ATACMS missiles to Ukraine is a cheap way to dispose of them.
  
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  May 4, 2024 12:26pm
I remember when

Is there a point at which stating Tribal connections becomes overstated.
Will all New Zealanders start doing this, adding English, Irish, Danish, German, Auckland, Napier, etc to their profile.
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May 4, 2024 10:34am
- rouppe
  
  One of those Greens Maggy linked to earlier was described has having Vietnamese and Pakeha (English, Irish) heritage.
  
  Pakeha isn’t a race…
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:56am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Why do we need to know to which iwi a journalist/media “star”/ scientist (JRSNZ) affiliates?
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:58am
- PurplePen
  
  Lately in any govt form and service I’ve been putting down I’m Maori in the event it might benefit me, particularly in relation to health. The good thing is no one is allowed to question it and you don’t have to know your iwi as not all maori do anyway.
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:59am
  - kowtow
    
    Did I read somewhere that 80% of Maoris don’t know their tribal affiliation.
    
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    May 4, 2024 12:12pm
  - 7kiwi11
    
    I think that’s partially why the Maori population is steadily growing. It’s people who I know that have a drop of Maori in them and who have never identified (I hate term) as Maori, now ticking that box so they don’t miss out.
    
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    May 4, 2024 1:27pm
Maggie Pie

According to info from an ‘X’ contact in Saudi…. Biden has sold out Israel
by imposing a permanent ceasefire with Hamas.

If correct, would mean the end of Israel 🙁

https://twitter.com/JewishWarrior13/status/1786488876632039639
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May 4, 2024 10:37am
- imalwaysright
  
  Unfortunately for Israel, they have depended on America to defend them.
  Now America doesn’t seem so keen, Israel will have to stand on their own feet and engage in diplomacy and compromise.
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:48am
  - john1234
    
    Do you think “diplomacy and compromise” works when dealing with animals such as Hamas? Really?
    
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    May 4, 2024 11:05am
    - Jake Dee
      
      I’ve heard this one before and it doesn’t make any sense. If you are fighting animals (mad dog Mullahs) then you are in an excellent situation.
      Ignoring the occasion hiker lost in the woods, humans beat animals ten times out of ten.
      “We are fighting animals!” isn’t a serious analysis, it’s a rhetorical alibi to cover brutal stupidity.
      
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      May 4, 2024 3:01pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    God stands with Israel.
    
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    May 4, 2024 11:10am
    - MCōs
      
      Everyone has God on their side except the atheists and maybe they do too!
      
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      May 4, 2024 11:17am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I am not a man of faith but Maggie gets an uptick from me.
        
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        May 4, 2024 11:47am
    - imalwaysright
      
      “God stands with Israel”
      That’s a lot to unpack. Good luck.
      
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      May 4, 2024 12:15pm
    - rangitoto
      
      The gods can be fickle.
      
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      May 4, 2024 12:30pm
    - Ra Henare
      
      Does that mean that Allah stands with Palestine?
      
      Your God, verses my God….. LOL
      
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      May 4, 2024 2:56pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Meanwhile in the real world, Israel dumps the Patriot system in favour of its own.
    Iron Dome, Arrow and David Sling.
    https://breakingdefense.com/2024/05/israel-retires-patriot-air-defenses-as-native-air-defense-systems-step-up/?
    
    They will be fielding a Laser based system they have also developed next year which will be much cheaper than missiles to use
    Looks like they are standing on their own feet huh
    
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    May 4, 2024 11:10am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Israel is a major manufacturer of arms
      https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-arms-sales-doubled-in-a-decade-hit-new-record-of-12-5-billion-in-2022/
      The US sells about $3-4 B pa
      ‘In 2016, the US and Israeli governments signed a third 10-year memorandum of understanding, covering the period from Oct. 1, 2018 to Sept. 30, 2028. The MOU provides a total of $38 billion in military aid over the 10 years, $33 billion in grants to buy military equipment and $5 billion for missile defense systems.’
      Mainly F35s , Artillery shells and Bombs
      They could get the latter from European countries.
      Denmark makes artillery shells- a lot are on its way to Ukraine
      Germany is the next biggest provider
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/12/israel-weapons-suppliers-countries/
      
      Its a bit of a myth to say Israel is ‘dependent’ on the US- although no one else makes the F35 which is a nice to have- eh Iran
      Lol
      
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      May 4, 2024 12:00pm
  - Jake Dee
    
    That has been Israeli’s strategy for at least the last 50 years, relying on Washington to give them a qualitative military advantage over any potential enemy of likely coalition of enemies.
    Geo-political shifts are causing that advantage to evaporate. Is there anyone here who thinks that the USA will ever again enjoy the global position it had in the 90s-2000s?
    Isreal will have to radically adapt or die.
    
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    May 4, 2024 3:10pm
Ghost

Popcorn, get your popcorn

A new allegation has been levelled against Green MP Julie Anne Genter, with a Wellington businesswoman claiming the politician grabbed her arm during an exchange about a controversial plan to ban cars from the heart of the city.

Article
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May 4, 2024 10:46am
- slightlyrighty
  
  Third time’s the charm…
  
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  May 4, 2024 10:54am
- PurplePen
  
  Oh it just gets better. Thanks
  
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  May 4, 2024 11:00am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  shudder..
  Is Greenism contagious?
  
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  May 4, 2024 11:01am
  - Ghost
    
    Yes, but there is a cure. Have a bath or shower, can’t be a greenie if you’re clean
    
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    May 4, 2024 11:06am
  - All_on_Red
    
    I find Greenies lie a lot.
    Especially Deceit by Omission- heh
    Although to be charitable, ignorance features a lot too
    
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    May 4, 2024 12:04pm
- Dougal10
  
  Is Fleur gearing herself up for a byelection .
  
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  May 4, 2024 11:01am
  - PurplePen
    
    God I hope there is one and the voters get out en masse and realise their mistake.
    
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    May 4, 2024 11:08am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    She will lose Labour would win a by election, Nats should stand aside
    
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    May 4, 2024 12:41pm
- peterwn
  
  On yer bike, Julie!
  
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  May 4, 2024 11:17am
  - Kiwiguy
    
    Julie Anne Goner!
    
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    May 4, 2024 11:59am
- Benedict Yu
  
  “As part of the disciplinary action, Julie Anne will be receiving professional and personal support to ensure incidents of this nature never happen again.”
  
  Does she get sent to anger management counselling? 🙂 Guess who will pay for it?
  
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  May 4, 2024 11:34am
  - Ghost
    
    Maybe the former minister for violence prevention will sit down and talk to her, damn cis green female violence…..
    
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    May 4, 2024 1:54pm
- kowtow
  
  HDPA on the wireless said last night that JAG is well known for this type of thing.
  
  Really ?
  
  So the In crowd Media Luvvies have this knowledge from long time and yet sit on it till the actor themselves out themselves in some unhidable public display , and then the media paahti will go to town on it.
  
  Seems very dishonest , duplicitous and overly protective of certain selected personalties , then they wonder why they’re held in such contempt.
  
  And just think back to how te media paahti held onto the Uffindel stuff until just the right moment to unleash hell on him , after a successful national Party conference , deliberately timed and in collusion with labour to attck and embarass the Opposition .
  
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  May 4, 2024 12:18pm
  - lifesgood
    
    It has been said by many in the know that Ardern had a filthy temper behind closed doors but did the media ever mention it? Don’t make me laugh.
    
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    May 4, 2024 1:23pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  That is assault, this may well be the final straw, it’s only grabbing the arm, but it is assault by a political meaning she is using her power over us underlings
  
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  May 4, 2024 12:40pm
  - PurplePen
    
    I’ve read some replies on X and some saying the Cranfields and the Newtown flower shop owners aren’t the nicest of people. However, regardless, it’s no way for anyone let alone a politician to behave to one of their constituents. And a polly such as JAG will have had much experience with dealing with shirty debate and not very nice people so all the more have no excuse.
    
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    May 4, 2024 12:54pm
    - lifesgood
      
      I’m assuming that those condemning the Cranfield lady and the florist are Labour luvvies.
      
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      May 4, 2024 1:24pm
    - 7kiwi11
      
      Replies on X/Twitter?!? Must be true then.
      
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      May 4, 2024 1:30pm
- PurplePen
  
  And another one from Jordan Willuams … I was once a fan of @JulieAnneGenter – in fact I endorsed her for @NZGreens co-leadership in a @nzherald column back when she ran. But in late 2017, I was sitting in a cafe in Wellington with a donor, and she came over and out of the blue started yelling at me about another column I’d written. I was taken aback and deeply embarrassed (it was very public).
  
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  May 4, 2024 1:09pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

“Donald Trump ‘s authority as commander-in-chief was ignored by senior military leadership on January 6 , 2021, claims the chief legal advisor for D.C. National Guard on that day.”
Senior military leadership essentially stripped the president of his authority as commander-in-chief by pre-emptively planning to go against orders because they didn’t like the optics of uniformed soldiers at the Capitol.Donald Trump ‘s authority as commander-in-chief was ignored by senior military leadership on January 6 , 2021, claims the chief legal advisor for D.C. National Guard on that day.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/whistleblower-trump-was-divested-as-commander-in-chief-on-jan-6/ss-AA1o6s1l#image=10

President Trump’s authority was completely ignored.
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May 4, 2024 10:49am
- Mike
  
  An unlawful order does not need to be obeyed.
  
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  May 4, 2024 2:00pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I don’t see the unlawful bit.
    Trump was “Commander in Chief” The head pooh-bar. POTUS!
    There are going to be a few sore arses in 2025.
    
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    May 4, 2024 4:55pm
  - kiwikidsnz
    
    Quite correct. Also the USAs military oath is first to the Constitution 2nd. the POTUS.
    
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    May 4, 2024 6:31pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

This is yesterday’s post because it was held up until 5pm by Youtube.

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/do-we-already-have-a-dual-government-in-new-zealand-part-3/

The video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpBvAH43HTA
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May 4, 2024 10:52am
Diogenes

Will the centre hold?

I’ve been mulling this over a lot the last couple of weeks, with some trepidation. The portents do not appear good. By chance, I was reminded today of the powerful poem “The Second Coming”, written by William Butler Yeats after the end of WWI, in which he also asked the question. The poem is often quoted when people talk of social change.

In light of this, I came across a very thoughtful/disturbing reflection by an American woman, Jody Tishmack, taking Yeats as her starting point. She is deeply concerned by both the left and right factions in the USA, but her words can equally apply to any Western country, including ours. She holds out some hope, but it is fragile, and I strongly recommend reading the article.

http://www.resilience.org/stories/2018-03-01/will-the-center-hold
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May 4, 2024 11:03am
Maggie Pie

We need to see this happen in the Shopping Malls here.

‘School Bus Driver exposed in public as a PEDO’

https://twitter.com/MAGA_Patriot/status/1786412703256281224

(full screen/sound up)
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May 4, 2024 11:06am
- Maggie Pie
  
  And have you noticed the thing most Pedos have in common….
  the majority of them are chinless-wonders.
  
  Similar to the way I imagine most ‘downtickers’ to be 🙁
  
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  May 4, 2024 11:38am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Ticking should be eliminated.
    A civilised
    counterargument is far more polite.
    
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    May 4, 2024 3:39pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  No because vigilante pursuit of pedophiles can go horribly wrong.
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/put-through-hell-dunedin-man-falsely-accused-being-paedophile
  
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  May 4, 2024 11:40am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Now you’re just being silly with the comparison to that case.
    
    I’m talking about where the evidence is absolutely irrefutable…as it was here.
    
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    May 4, 2024 12:05pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      If someone has irrefutable evidence go to the police. Going to a shopping mall and yelling is moronic.
      
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      May 4, 2024 12:33pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        We’ll I’d do it.
        
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        May 4, 2024 1:07pm
      - Mike
        
        Maggie’s proving Benedict’s point!
        
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        May 4, 2024 1:12pm
      - Ghost
        
        And when you do it Maggie. Will you mind if you are killed?
        
        https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/national-international/man-known-for-outing-pedophiles-online-shot-and-killed-at-michigan-restaurant/3116874/
        
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        May 4, 2024 1:30pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Remember the case of the paediatrician who was harassed because vigilantes didn’t know the difference between paediatrics and paedophilia.
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/aug/30/childprotection.society
    
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    May 4, 2024 3:11pm
- Pope Punctilious II
  
  I prefer the rule of law to vigilantes. What if he’s actually innocent? The USA already has a problem with woke vigilantes like ANTIFA, who also think they’re incredibly righteous.
  
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  May 4, 2024 12:06pm
nathie

So another new allegation against Julie Anne Genter.

This time man-handling a different shop owner.

Will there be more allegations? Asking since Ms Genter clearly has “bullying” and/or anger issues. Leopards don’t change their spots etc.

Anyway Ms Genter should resign. Because these events are happening now as an MP (not in the past before entering Parliament).

For balance, it would be in Ms Genter’s best interests to step aside, for own health and well-being. Clearly she is not coping with the stress of being an MP and in Opposition.

And as Winston Peters observed yesterday, the Green Party leadership are also culpable by not decisively dealing with their own MP’s when they are under stress. The Green Party leadership need to step up, support Ms Genter but also act to prevent Ms Genter further spiraling downwards by letting her go, and allow her to recover.
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May 4, 2024 11:18am
- kowtow
  
  “manhandling”?
  
  No ,according to the Watermelons that would be “cis white male handling” , they do all the violence , innit.
  
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  May 4, 2024 12:26pm
- Gravelroad
  
  https://www.thepost.co.nz/politics/350267356/business-owner-alleges-she-was-grabbed-julie-anne-genter
  I happened to hear Ms Cranfield on Wellington radio
  a few days ago . She seemed to be a reasonable person who had many years experience as a small business retailer in Wellington city -her shop being just off Lambton Quay.
  She is shutting down the shop allegedly due to cycle way uncertainty.
  Although this later incident with Ms Genter was not brought up on the radio show (that I know of as didn’t hear all of it) , I found her believable.
  Where as Ms Genter is not.
  She needs to go.
  You can’t go round grabbing people and haranguing them with your private views and still maintain respectability.
  
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  May 4, 2024 1:42pm
Tauhei Notts

I frequently watch the presidential race odds on Betfair.
I saw Trump’s odds drop to $2.20 12 weeks ago. Then the various law suits saw him weaken in the market to $2.34.
But over the past few days he has dramatically shortened to $2.16.
Maybe those spurious law suits are working to Trump’s advantage.
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May 4, 2024 11:47am
- Mike
  
  More likely Biden’s support for the war on Gaza is damaging his odds.
  
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  May 4, 2024 1:16pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The judge threatened him with prison for breaking the silence rite he slapped on him, Trimp came straight out of the court and called the judge corrupt, he is begging the judge to put him in prison, he knows exactly what he is doing.
  
  Also Bidens silence has lost him a huge amount support for not speaking out about that criminals hiding behind peaceful protesting for 10 days
  
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  May 4, 2024 2:35pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    ‘Don’t talk to anyone’ I will throw you in jail!
    Trump and his multi-level Chess. He knows any Judge will not do that. He is playing the game that he will win!
    I keep saying, there will be some very sorry arses come 2025.
    
    “Don’t even talk to your neighbours!” Oh wait, that was someone else – the one who ran away.
    
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    May 4, 2024 5:46pm
Maggie Pie

‘HUMMUS’ 😀

https://twitter.com/ChayaRaichik10/status/1786141022843506710
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May 4, 2024 12:07pm
Ghost

Didn’t realise there are so many.

There are 47 convicted murderers in New Zealand prisons who have served more than two decades of their life sentences without being granted parole.

Between them, they have killed 53 people – children, wives, family members, associates, strangers.

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Doubt many will care if these people ever see the outside of a prison
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May 4, 2024 12:53pm
- Mike
  
  Add those sentenced to preventive detention or otherwise detained indefinitely.
  
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  May 4, 2024 1:18pm
Bridgenag

One of the Blokes at Bowls has a daughter near a police fanfare for someone going near The Pulman in town. Good time to rob a bank
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May 4, 2024 12:53pm
- kevn
  
  Bridge… The Pullman in Rotorua?
  
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  May 4, 2024 1:38pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

Saturday. Part 5.
Part 4 is yesterday’s post with the link repaired.
The Waitangi Tribunal is now an activist organisation.
They get a claim and approve it. Then the Govt just rubber stamps it. This is co-governance. Maori just tell the Govt what they want and it happens.
This is all paid for by us!
The beaches claims will include the ocean 12 miles out to sea. This is beyond ridiculous.

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/do-we-already-have-a-dual-government-in-new-zealand-part-3-2/
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May 4, 2024 1:21pm
slightlyrighty

Yet another Genter Fender bender!

Simon Woolf, formerly a Wellington city councillor, now with the Greater Wellington Regional Council, alleged an incident in 2019 where he was photographing an event, in a personal business capacity, outside Parliament. Genter was attending as associate transport minister. Just a few months earlier Lets Get Wellington Moving had been launched, sparking heated debate about cycleways and mass rapid transit.

Woolf said Genter “came right up to my face and complained bitterly about the slow progress with the city council and the cycleway implementation. I had to tell her three times that I wasn’t there as a councillor, I had two cameras around my neck, and that I was there as a photographer”.
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May 4, 2024 1:53pm
- Mike
  
  How courageous of him to tell his story now.
  
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  May 4, 2024 2:03pm
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    More courage than an incel keyboard warrior, dont you think?
    
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    May 4, 2024 2:50pm
  - slightlyrighty
    
    Mike, it would have been easy for Woolf to put it down to a one off, but in light of recent revelations, it bears telling now.
    
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    May 4, 2024 2:54pm
  - graham
    
    You’re not victim-blaming, are you Mike?
    
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    May 4, 2024 4:07pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Well Mike, maybe he did tell his story but the commie media did not want to report it?
    The rabid, leftist media, New Zealand media!
    
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    May 4, 2024 5:58pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    I’ve met Simon in a professional capacity. He struck me as a reasonable human being.
    
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    May 4, 2024 9:59pm
Swifty

In my garage I have a, for me, gorgeous and extremely even 14pt (‘imperial’) red stag of Woburn herd origin – taken on the final day of a four-day hunt, nearly twenty years ago on a 10,000 acre Tuwharetoa block out of Taumarunui.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/henrietta-russell-dowager-duchess-of-bedford-why-i-have-become-a-new-zealand-citizen-at-my-age/7LG3DN3LFJGYJPSALLNCTPGOSI/
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May 4, 2024 2:50pm
KH

So a Green list MP and an Green electorate MP soon out the door.
Will that make it five since the election in October?
Well parties do need refreshing, but this is extreme.
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May 4, 2024 3:12pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  20% of the Green MPs in this Parliament are
  
  Under investigation for employment practices
  
  Awaiting sentencing for shop lifting
  
  Been referred to the Privileges Committee.
  
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  May 4, 2024 4:22pm
Maggie Pie

Home alone this weekend and contemplating dinner from UberEats.

Never b4 in my life have I ever considered going ‘Vegan’….. until now 🙁

https://twitter.com/AMAZINGNATURE/status/1786474693802762254
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May 4, 2024 4:10pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Careful with that horn Daisy, you don’t know where it has been.
  
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  May 4, 2024 6:05pm
Sparrow

Being an old codger I an often mystified by new titles. Seen DEI tossed around and wondered what it meant ? So found meaning of what it meant then saw an article about the appointment of new acting State Services Commissioner appears she had been the DEI Head in the Commission. I read the DEI statement on the Commission website all I can say is that I am pleased I have been long retired, interesting no mention of competency, ability etc.
I took the opportunity to read the resume of the various Commissioners.
Frankly we are doomed. Governments of any colour does not matter, they have no power
nothing will change.
Academia, Public Service, Education has been taken over.
Would strongly recommend that youngsters who have not been brain washed yet bugger off.
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May 4, 2024 4:22pm
- cmm
  
  ” Would strongly recommend that youngsters who have not been brain washed yet bugger off.”
  
  They are, in droves, but for other reasons.
  
  It is not clear that there are any places not bowing down to DEI unless you want to go live in Russia, Asia or an African or South American shithole.
  
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  May 4, 2024 7:00pm
Ghost

Protest in the streets, protest outside parliament, but leave people alone in their own house

A short, sharp protest outside the Auckland residence of Foreign Minister Winston Peters last night was aimed at hitting him with messaging around the plight of Palestine and then getting away before police turned up.

A group of around 30 people gathered for five minutes in the suburban St Mary’s Bay street, waving placards and shouting demands through a megaphone before slipping away.

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May 4, 2024 5:10pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Lots of tweets sayng the police need to bring out the….’Minto Sticks’
  
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  May 4, 2024 5:20pm
- cmm
  
  “Photos Supplied”
  
  In other words, the Herald don’t mind playing publicist for the them.
  
  Maggie, I doubt the modern cops would bring out Minto sticks. More likely to come armed with their guitars.
  
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  May 4, 2024 6:57pm
Ghost

Won’t work. Kids will always find ways to view porn online.

Similar to showing your passport at the airport before you embark on your journey, a passport to watch porn is being trialled in Australia.

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May 4, 2024 6:10pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Baa! Just going to any masturbating site they will come back to you because they have your IP Address.
  A friend told me.
  
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  May 4, 2024 6:16pm
- MCōs
  
  Shane Jones will be right on to it
  
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  May 4, 2024 7:45pm
  - Ghost
    
    I’m not sure who has more experience. It sounds like Steve does, oh I mean his ‘Friend”. He just doesn’t realise how surf anonymously…..
    
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    May 4, 2024 7:56pm
Ghost

A good news story for a change

A real estate agent facing a five-year ban after refusing to complete a compulsory short course on Māori culture and tikanga – a move she says led to her being fired – is back at work.

Janet Dickson is again working for Harcourts Landed Howick after her lawyers successfully asked for an interim court order maintaining her practising licence until the outcome of a judicial review into the Real Estate Authority

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May 4, 2024 6:12pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Good that Janet Dickson stood up against the nonsense being forced upon New Zealand. This was of course on the website of stop co-governance, by Julian Batchelor.
  To have to take a special course to keep your job is straight out blackmail from the “WAITANGI TRIBUNAL!”
  Here we go, have a look around. The link is the same as linking to any webpage…
  
  http://www.stopcogovernace.kiwi
  
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  May 4, 2024 6:31pm
- cmm
  
  It isn’t good news yet.
  She is still facing the ban. It is just that she’s still allowed to practice until the judicial review.
  
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  May 4, 2024 6:53pm
- greybeard
  
  Given that there are are probably several hundred times more properties sold to Chinese buyers than Maori buyers you would have to ask why any consideration of maori “culture” is required: probably a lot more efficacious to learn Mandarin and how to do a decent stir-fry.
  
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  May 4, 2024 7:20pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/350267543/iran-hires-hijab-enforcers-snitch-women-breaking-strict-clothing-rules

This country is sick: thousands of years of repressing women and imposing totally illogical rules.

How come the ordinary men in Iran don’t grow some balls and tell the Mullahs where to go ?

How can the women and girls have any respect for their menfolk ?
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