The second Glenn letter

September 4th, 2008 at 1:06 pm by David Farrar

Stuff has a copy of the second Glenn letter as a pdf. Helen is busy working on a defence for Winston for it.

Some key extracts:

I gave the authority for the payment instructions to be made on 20 December 2005 to Mr BP Henry’s account. Mr Henry supplied the ASB bank account details in an email from him addressed to me on Wednesday 14 December 2005. That email from Mr Henry refers to an earlier telephone conversation between me and a person Mr Henry refers to as “my client” that same day.

Watch Henry and Peters claim it was some otehr client, whom they can’t name.

My recollection is that I was called by Mr Peters to seek financial assistance for his electoral petition challenge. I agreed to that request because I understood that it would be of assistance to the Labour party, which had the confidence and supply agreement with New Zealand First at the time we spoke. I do not recall that I had any conversation with Mr Henry about my donation. There is absolutely no doubt that the request came to me from Mr Peters, I would not have made the donation on any other basis through any intermediary. I did not do so.

Can’t get more firm than that.

I was not at the Karaka sales in early 2007, I was at the sales in early 2006. I believe that the statement I made to you in my letter of 19 August is factually accurate.

So it is Peters, not Glenn, wrong on the details.

Unless is a pathological liar, Winston Peters has lied repeatedly to the public, the media, and well everyone. There is no “innocent explanation” as Clark desperately suggests.

This also raises some questions regarding Mr Henry’s conduct. I won’t say more than that at this stage.

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76 Responses to “The second Glenn letter”

  1. Michaels (1,317 comments) says:

    Doesn’t it just bring a smile to ones face?
    I want to hear Ddddail Jones apologise!!
    I am also looking forward to Tuesday now, but the way Williams conducts himself it will probably be another farce. He should be banned from going in.

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  2. Yvette (2,591 comments) says:

    Clark has already admitted she knew since last February what some of the facts were while Winston was saying otherwise. But instead of learning from this she appears be working on a ‘defence’ for the indefensible, but implicit in this is that she is working to prove Labour’s biggest benefactor is mistaken.
    This can’t be a clever move.

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  3. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    Well by Peters standards he must either produce the goods or resign…. WAAAAHAHAHAHA

    Damn I almost did that with a straight face. “Peters standards”, jeeze thats a good one. Stardards..weeeee!

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  4. freethinker (648 comments) says:

    I wonder what the Law society thinks about a barrister who has clearly told a barefaced lie.

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  5. Chicken Little (793 comments) says:

    OG (original gangster, heh :) ) didn’t get to be a billionaire by forgetting who he gave 100k too and who he met and spoke with.

    These guys made a big mistake when they said otherwise.

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  6. gd (2,286 comments) says:

    What odds to I get that Clark will ensure Glen dosnt get to appear before the PC next Tuesday

    What if she goes to the GG and asks him to dissolve the Parliament and announces a snap election Rob Muldoon style in order to prevent Glen appearing and revealing certain matters that would see her not only unelectable but also facing serious charges.

    Has the countdown to her Armmegedon begun

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  7. Lindsay Addie (1,105 comments) says:

    Peters wouldn’t know the truth if it got up and hit him on the head. Time for Clark to end this charade and call an election. The biggest disgrace is that Baubles is still on a full salary.

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  8. Bandycoot (29 comments) says:

    Of course there could well be a “simple explanataion”. Just depends how sycophantic you feel. Other option is that he’s been lying all along but I don’t see her using that line any time soon.

    gd – pretty small odds I would think. Only hang up would be gettng the ETS passed before dissolving this dog and pony show

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  9. PaulL (5,776 comments) says:

    Calling an election (not necessarily a snap election) dissolves the privileges committee. But Helen needs the ETS passed first, and wouldn’t want to cut of the valedictories etc.

    Failing to pass the ETS would imply that she couldn’t pass it – doesn’t have the numbers. That would hurt her environmental credentials (such as they are) and electoral chances.

    Skipping valedictories would be a very clear sign of desperation, and the media would publicise it as such. That would hurt her environmental credentials.

    Helen won’t gamble, she won’t weigh up the odds. She’ll try to tough it out. I hope the PC call her to give evidence.

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  10. big bruv (12,380 comments) says:

    Forget about Winston, this is the part that really interests me ” I agreed to that request because I understood that it would be of assistance to the Labour party, which had the confidence and supply agreement with New Zealand First at the time we spoke”

    Nobody is going to tell me that dear corrupt leader does not have a hand in this, Glenn would only have given money to Peters at the suggestion of Clark or Williams.

    There is no other word for this than corruption, big business has purchased an election, lets see the Standard spin its way out of this one.

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  11. Al-Girta (61 comments) says:

    Peters after long denial decided to publicly state that the first he knew about the Glenn donation was the day his mother died. That is all you need to know about Peters.

    Clark is up to her neck in this. Glenn donated to Peters because he wanted to help the Labour party. Clark knew her third term was going to be shaky. Clark, the so called MMP expert, brought and paid for Peters.

    Peters is nothing but a puppet Clark has totally corrupted the system.

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  12. dave strings (608 comments) says:

    A question for the well informed.

    If the Privileges Committee is dissolved prior to making a determination, is there any reason why the matter cannot be referred to the same committee of the next Parliament?

    2nd question. Given that the one righteous man of Parliament has laid a complaint with the Police today, are there any odds being offered that the complaint relates to the last declaration filed by the NZ1st Party – the one that has yet to have its limitation statute expire?

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  13. first time caller (384 comments) says:

    How did Glen come to the “understanding that it would help Labour”. Did he come to that conclusion by himself, or did someone from Labour give him that advise?

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  14. Peter C (40 comments) says:

    Election date irrelevant. Glenn will be in the country next week and he can talk to anyone at anytime – doesnt need to be Privileges Committee. Hmm, how would I feel if I was a self-made billionaire who has given generously to a country and people I believed in, to then be called by a history professor (who hates rich pricks) and his mistress who has never had a private sector job that in a comparison with Mr Honest Baubles, I must be forgetful or vague or even just plain wrong.

    Methinks I would not be pleased to be besmirched and I would clear my name. I also wonder whether I would be awarded Monaco consulship next year by NZs new PM if I do real service to my country by revealing just how corrpt the upper echelons of this government are? i certainly would be pleased to see him get it!

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  15. beautox (408 comments) says:

    Clarke Fears Labour “destruction”
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7596493.stm

    Labour is “destined to disaster” and “utter destruction” at the next election if it does not change……..

    ……former home secretary Charles Clarke says.

    Seems labour is screwed from one side of the world to the other.

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  16. Inventory2 (9,791 comments) says:

    Given that:

    * the Tauranga electoral petition was a legal proceeding between Winston Raymond PETERS (Petitioner) and Robert Moncrieff CLARKSON (Respondent)

    * Brian Henry was Counsel-of-record for Winston Raymond PETERS, and

    * Owen Glenn’s stated in his second letter that “My recollection is that I was called by Mr Peters to seek financial assistance for his electoral petition challenge. I agreed to that request because I understood that it would be of assistance to the Labour party, which had the confidence and supply agreement with New Zealand First at the time we spoke.”

    when Brian Henry refers to “my client” in this matter, he can only be talking about the aforementioned Winston Raymond PETERS, underemployed Foreign Minister (‘E’s not dead; ‘e’s restin’!).

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  17. democracymum (660 comments) says:

    What will Helen’s next move be?

    Tough it out, hold out to the ETS is passed next week, by which time Owen Glenn may unloading on the Privileges Committee,

    or…

    Call an election tomorrow therebye dissolving parliament and preventing a purging of damaging evidence against herself and Peters?

    Tough call…

    I’d go for the later, couch it in terms of “the ETS needs more work etc etc.
    This decision will be the most important she makes in her political career.
    Time is running out and the lies are catching up with Winston and Helen, and the media dogs are awake.
    Wrong call and her political career and reputation will gone burgers.
    Right call and only her reputation will stink.

    No pressure H1 and H2 – the balls in your court.

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  18. Ryan Sproull (6,661 comments) says:

    Last one to copy Glenn’s signature on to a donation cheque for the party of their choice is a rotten egg!

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  19. Peter C (40 comments) says:

    democracymum – see my 2.08pm – Glenn can talk whenever to whoever so Priveleges Committee a bit of a red herring, except that it would look worse for her and Winnie to have this all dragged out before their peers (term used loosely) rather than if Owen just mouths off, ie. its a more formal audience. Hels will probably look to front-foot it which means slandering Glenn in order to protect Baubles. Oh the joys and entanglements!!!

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  20. Wanderer (30 comments) says:

    Just read on the NZ Herald that the Electoral commission is going to investigate the party as per the statement give by Mr Currie that further donations were given to NZ First in the 2006 and 2007 Year

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  21. getstaffed (9,188 comments) says:

    Isn’t in interesting to see previously bullied-into-line entities like the MSM, SFO and Electoral Commission suddenly grow a spine now they can see the writing on the wall.

    Is it beacuse they no longer fear a backlash, or they now fear a new broom?

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  22. Inventory2 (9,791 comments) says:

    Winston is in fine form in the House this afternoon during the Committee Stage of the Real Estate Agents Bill – he is interjecting, making frivolous points of order, and generally getting the wind-up from National members in the House. Gerry Brownlee is also being somewhat confrontational towards the underemployed Foreign Minister (’E’s not dead; ‘e’s restin’!).

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  23. Hagues (711 comments) says:

    gd “What if she goes to the GG and asks him to dissolve the Parliament and announces a snap election Rob Muldoon style”

    Winnie possibily made it a condition of his stepping aside without a fuss that when the heat gets too hot and the government crumbles that he is the one that gets drunk and announces the snap election. Last chance to emulate his hero.

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  24. goodgod (1,363 comments) says:

    My prediction: Peters sacked by Wednesday.

    One thing that seems odd: Was there no one else at the 2006 Yearling sales that spoke to either Glenn or Peters and could place them there? No one? No one at all? They were the only two people there? Wow, some people in the Horse Racing industry are really worried. Wonder why?

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  25. Too Right (8 comments) says:

    The Electoral Act breaches themselves (except for 2007) are red herrings. The way to get NZ First is to examine the statutory declarations made by NZ First officers when they completed and filed the various returns. They have now acknowledged these are false. “They won’t like it when they see the cold steel will be up ‘em” – with a nod to L/Cpl Jones. I have a fuller description of the relevant law here

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  26. gd (2,286 comments) says:

    Im not sure than Clark will want to run the risk of Glen unloading at the PC. Let face it His revelations could include some or all of the following

    Clark asked me to agree to Peters request for the $100K donation

    Williams told me that Clark wanted me to donate to Peters to get him off the Clarkson hook

    Clark/Williams asked me to offer Turia $250K donation if she would support Clark in government.

    I mean any of those statements inside the PC would be the end of Clark and the Socilaists and Glen would I presume be immune from any prosecution whereas if he says these things outside the PC he is subject to the laws of defamation and the Crime Act for particpating in a bribery and corruption.

    If thats the case then the PC provides him a claok of protection to give evidence that cant convict him.

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  27. lyndon (330 comments) says:

    Scoop has Peter Williams’ statement as well.

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  28. PeterG (21 comments) says:

    Peters was most certainly at the Karaka sales in early 2006, a simple search of Hansard for Karaka, goes the the following link:
    http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Debates/Debates/1/4/6/48HansD_20060214_00000086-Debate-on-Prime-Minister-s-Statement.htm
    Debate on 14 Feb 2006
    Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: ….I will give members an example relating to Don Brash and the National Party. I saw them at the Karaka saleyards this year. In 20 years, National Party members have done nothing for racing whatsoever. But there they were, totally supportive all of a sudden of the racing industry….

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  29. Alfred (52 comments) says:

    Here’s a new line for you Winston, Dail, Henry, Williams, Clark, Cullen, etal “Let them eat cake”

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  30. Peter C (40 comments) says:

    gd – its not defamation if its the truth. Also, not sure what sections of the Crimes Act would apply re bribery and corruption -also is it really corruption and bribery as defined?. Also does the Privileges Committee really protect you from prosecution? What if he said “by the way, I murdered so and so as well” – would he be immune from prosecution for that as well? I dont think so – but I don’t know the law re evidence at the Privileges Committee but surely not?

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  31. petal (698 comments) says:

    “I wonder what the Law society thinks about a barrister who has clearly told a barefaced lie.”

    yes.

    well.

    it’s the getting caught that’s the problem. otherwise I’m sure they’d be full of admiration.

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  32. Peter C (40 comments) says:

    BBQ at Phil’s on Saturday?

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  33. dave strings (608 comments) says:

    You mean he wants to FillU with Tofu?

    burned I suppose!

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  34. Portia (204 comments) says:

    Prediction: one of the Peters brothers will “out” themselves as Brian Henry’s mysterious client. OG must have just confused them – after all, they’ve got similar names and all sound the same on the phone…

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  35. davidp (3,326 comments) says:

    Helen Clark bought herself a coalition partner, and the 2005 election, using Owen Glenn’s money.

    Clark and Peters must go to jail for this. Surely? It is bribery on a scale that would impress even the Saudis or Italians, even if the cash amount was tiny.

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  36. burt (7,091 comments) says:

    davidp

    Clark and Peters must go to jail for this. Surely?

    Chuckle chuckle…. Yeah right!

    More likely scenario: Clark and Peters say the law was confusing, they say others were doing it too and that it’s not fair that only they get punished for it. Retrospective validations are passed under urgency and we all move on.

    The only slightly refreshing thing about this is it was Owen Glenn’s money – not money stolen from the tax payer. Has Winston paid back his stolen $158,000 yet?

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  37. gd (2,286 comments) says:

    Peter C Of course you are right but given Peters track record of litigation against anyone and everyone Glen would want to be very careful

    My suggestion was that perhaps evidence given before the PC is priviledged or protected the same as statements in the Parliament are protected and as the PC is a standing committee of the House the same rules apply.

    Therefore Glen would be safer in front of the PC. If he makes statements regarding offering the MP money at the request of Clark/Williams in public is he then open to an action that he committed an offence along with them.

    Remember Turia was very clear that she was offered the $250K by a NZ businessman based overseas on the condition that the MP support Labour after the election.

    So if that businessman was not Glen then who was it and if the offer was conditional upon supporting Labour then did Labour know and or make the original request.

    Only asking a hypothetical question of course.Far be it for me to suggest any of this might be the truth.

    I am after all only a humble citizen in search of the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth from my employees in Wellington.

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  38. davidp (3,326 comments) says:

    Burt>not money stolen from the tax payer

    But Glenn spent $100k to ensure that WE’D pay higher taxes. While Glenn himself lives in a tax haven.

    If there were any justice in the world, Glenn would volunteer to donate the equivalent of the “rich prick” taxes he would have paid if he lived in Cullen’s NZ. And the donation would be divided up and paid out to everyone who didn’t vote for Clark and peters in 2005.

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  39. wownerf (1 comment) says:

    Anyone else seen this ??
    http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&p=56706978&assetType=image&src=quick
    No point in saying he wasn’t there in 2006

    Hat tip: Mullholland Dr

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  40. Peter C (40 comments) says:

    Hi GD – if I as Owen Glenn I wouldnt give a toss about some tinpot suing me, especially when he’s in the wrong and an object of ridicule. Owen could buy and sell anybody who is stupid enough to fund Winston 10 times over.

    would be nice if Tania Turia came out and said who offered her the $250k. Assuming it was Owen that is just going to make things worse for Winston and make Mike Williams/Helen look even worse in even more peoples eyes. The sad thing is though that Winston probably will get 3% as a hard core no matter what he is proven of, plus Helen will always I guess get 30% – 35% plus hardcore from the sheeple. Oh that they would implode and/or NZers would wake from their benefit-induced PC stupor

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  41. bluelagoon (6 comments) says:

    I see we are down to 44,5% in the latest poll
    http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2008/4316/
    I’m slightly worried

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  42. Patrick Starr (3,675 comments) says:

    It is ridiculous for Peter Williams to present as evidence in the Privileges Committee today that the failure of a written note of thanks from Winston Peters to Glenn is evidence Owen Glenn’s memory is faulty.
    Williams overlooks of course that Brian Henry could not produce similar written correspondence between himself and Glenn.

    Peter Williams went on to criticise Jim Farmer QC for publicly commenting on Brian Henrys conduct.

    Eerrr Peter Williams, WTF are you now doing to Jim Farmer???

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  43. Patrick Starr (3,675 comments) says:

    Bluelagoon according to RM the slide appears to started around mid- July. I can only think of the secret tapes and latest sample period with the Maurice Williamson foot-in-mouth.

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  44. gd (2,286 comments) says:

    bluelagoon DONT PANIC Poll date up to 31 August so hadnt had enough time to register with the sloooooooooooooow Socialist supporters.

    Gotta give them time to catch up with the day of the week Think Philu

    NZ1 at 2.5% Luigi at 12% in Tuaranga so little chance of getting over the line.

    My rough numbers are if the MP give support to the Nats or abstain on confidence and supply then Nats/ACT/ Dunny trump Socialists/ Greens/ Jimbo.

    Anyone care to confirm or correct this?

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  45. Hagues (711 comments) says:

    Compares very much the same as this time last year. Similar fall in Labour to follow especially as HC’s involvement in the Winnie affair takes effect. ACTs to climb when election debates are on TV and general population get to Rodney in action.

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  46. David Baigent (172 comments) says:

    bluelagoon 4:55pm says “I’m slightly worried’

    Heh, I’d be worried too, especially if I had to be in close proximity to Helen Clark.

    The reason is. Helen NEEDS some one new, “close” to her, to drop dead about once a fortnight till the election if she is to get good poll results

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  47. Blue Devil (7 comments) says:

    Nats need to stop pulling their punches. The problem with being afraid of alienating anyone is that you end up looking too compromised to stand for anything. The latest Winston debacle should finish him but its important that he drags Helengrad with him as well. The last thing we want are the labour/Anderton socalists surviving over the corpse of Winston with the Greens! Dunny is likely to survive because no-one has really bothered to challenge him and the boundary changes haven’t hurt him at all. Not so with 71 year old Jimbo – he’s lost all his supporters in Sydneham (from the boundary redraw) and from what I hear, has been unnsuccessfully trying to shore up some votes in the new Avonhead part of the electorate. As for the labour candidate… she’s missing in action! Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s an upset there. That would be a two-for-one blow against the reds.

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  48. freethinker (648 comments) says:

    Iventory
    Have you considered that Henrys client could be Her Ugliness queer Helen the last? Perhaps Henry acts for her and she suggested he get Winston to call Glenn?

    [DPF: Sigh and that is 20 demerits. Less vitriol please]

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  49. workingman (84 comments) says:

    TVNZ are saying that Owen Glenn will be appearing in person, not via video link, next Tuesday. A comment was made along the lines of ‘he’s not coming here to play tiddly winks’

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  50. John Ansell (861 comments) says:

    What’s the betting that the report of Helen Clark’s private police force into the NZ First 2007 election return will come out the day after the six month deadline elapses in two months’ time?

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  51. Paul Marsden (935 comments) says:

    A man as ‘busy’ as Glenn, just doesn’t make a special trip to NZ lightly. I suspect that rather than appear by video link, want he really wants to see are the whites-of-their-eyes, when he reveals all.

    These people in Labour have a lot to learn about slurring, and sullying a businessman of this standing, when he has bent over backwords to help them and, when he can’t defend himself.

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  52. John Dalley (394 comments) says:

    How’s the latest Roy Morgan Poll goining boys?

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  53. Chicken Little (793 comments) says:

    So John, you’re believing the polls now are you?

    What a gimp!

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  54. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    down to a 6.5% lead..

    whoar..!

    (how are those ‘we shall rule alone..!’ delusions holding up..?)

    and the election campaign hasn’t even started..

    nz first are dying the arse also..

    http://whoar.co.nz/2008/nationals-lead-drops-to-65/

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  55. Ross Miller (1,624 comments) says:

    John Dalley … about what I expected. Labour’s core vote is around 35% +/- but every day now that Helun continues to ‘stand by her man’ is worth -1%.

    It’s really sad to see a Prime Minister prostitute her office in defending the indefensible.

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  56. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    and..um..!..still no need for coalitiion partners..?

    my theory is that the numbers of people who have sussed your secret agendas..

    ..and just don’t basically trust national..and especially key..

    ..is really bedding in..

    .and i’m betting this polling was done before the ashcroft denial/eye-dance..

    ..that should push you down a few more points..

    ..and just really compounds that (ever-growing) ‘can’t trust him’ ‘given’..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  57. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    “..John Dalley … about what I expected…”

    yeah right..!..ross..

    you expected nationals lead to evaporate..

    ..to exactly 6.5%..eh..?

    ..all part of your/the ‘grand plan’..?..eh..?

    sshh..!..make sure you don’t tell anyone..eh..?

    y’know..about he ‘plan’..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  58. goodgod (1,363 comments) says:

    Just been reading the RoyMorgan poll. Is Gary Morgan a closet socialist? Where does he get the idea that people are thinking of voting Labour because Helen’s mate died? You’re kidding right? No? Haahaa!

    And he says National haven’t released any policy? Huh? Has he looked at what Labour has to offer?

    So is there going to be a secret handshake, or maybe a cap…yeah a cap that has “I’m not a socialist moron” printed on the front so intelligent people can recognise the other not so smart 38%?

    That’s weird. This poll proves that almost half the people you meet are emotionally unstable.

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  59. Southern Raider (1,377 comments) says:

    Did they take this during the middle of the working day?

    I’m yet to find anyone (except for the trolls) that will admit to voting Labour. I don’t think these polls are even close.

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  60. Patrick Starr (3,675 comments) says:

    I was unimpressed with Peter Williams at the PC. I dont believe he came with anything relevant to the procedure, his submission wasn’t even well thought out. at best he was only there attempting to intimidate.
    I dont know why Simon Power didnt hold him in contempt

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  61. PaulL (5,776 comments) says:

    PhilU/John D. Yes, the polls are down. Surprised by that. As for the “rule alone” – not sure who you think has that delusion. Have you not noticed John Key playing nice the the Maori Party, Greens, UF, and ACT? NZF didn’t get a look in though. I’m sure you can work out the reason why, even though Helen still likes them.

    The poll didn’t read entirely right for me – perhaps there has been a turning that I missed, but I was surprised Act weren’t up more, and surprised that Labour weren’t flat. I certainly didn’t expect National to be up, but I didn’t expect down either. I suspect the timing on this poll is interesting – I think it mostly covers the period where National were screwing up on the whole tolls and some of the “secret agenda” stuff was working for Labour. I don’t think it covers much of the period where Helen was admitting she knew stuff about Winston’s lying, and was failing to be decisive. I also wonder whether it may be a famous rogue poll – not because I don’t like the result (although I don’t), but because it doesn’t fit what I would be expecting to happen. It depends what the next poll tells us I guess.

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  62. Thomas the Unbeliever (141 comments) says:

    Let’s be honest, who really thought Owen Glenn would respond the way he has? I had assumed he would take the Olympian position and just ignore the entire process. He must be seriously pissed. Winston and Helen are so used to hitting soft targets – they have seriously underestimated him. Winston should have learned from the Selwyn Cushing experience that there are some people you slander at your own risk. Roll on Tuesday for the best show in town!!

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  63. PaulL (5,776 comments) says:

    Ah, I see. 4% move from NZ First to Labour. That explains why they are up. This was before Helen was known to be actively conniving in Winston’s sham, presumably in the next poll that will be visible.

    National’s vote have gone half a percent here, 1 percent there to UF, ACT and Greens. Or, in other words, probably margin of error stuff.

    Given that National has ruled out Winston, and given Winston is under 5% and unlikely to hold Tauranga, this actually reduces Helen’s ability to form a government without really changing things for National. Before Helen had Labour (34%) plus NZF (6.5%) for a total 40.5%. Plus whomever else she could cobble together. Now she has Labour (38%) and NZ First (wasted), giving a total of 38%. Like I say, worse off. Expect to see some of the remaining NZF voters also move to Labour, or (given that National ruled out NZF after this poll was completed) potentially move to National.

    Good news for everyone (both sides of politics – at least those who aren’t playing realpolitik) is that Winston is toast.

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  64. V (660 comments) says:

    With the greatest of respect to Peter Williams QC, what happened to having this matter cleared up in 5 minutes?

    Is Peter working pro bono on this? Who’s picking up the tab …. oh wait I guess there’s a trust fund for that?

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  65. first time caller (384 comments) says:

    Whilst I wouldn’t discount this poll if it was positive for National, I do think it’s sample size of 840 taken over a very long period of time doesn’t seem entirely credible.

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  66. Buggerlugs (1,609 comments) says:

    OT, but Marian ‘I Am A Lapdog” Hobbs is making a pigs ear of chairing the House tonight. What a basso-profundo fuckwit.

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  67. Dazza (1 comment) says:

    Did anyone else notice what’s in Winston’s hands in the photo at Karaka 2006 (link in wownerf’s post at 4:44PM)
    Looks like a nice thick envelope stuffed with cash to me … I suppose that confirms he met with Owen Glenn then!

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  68. Paul Marsden (935 comments) says:

    Winnie is gonna be burning the mid-night oil. prepping all those ‘NO’ cards, for next Tueday’s encounter

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  69. reid (15,593 comments) says:

    “Who’s picking up the tab” – We are, V (5)

    That’s precisely why Hulun’s left his baubles intact. Isn’t that nice of her.

    “Let’s be honest, who really thought Owen Glenn would respond the way he has?”

    Geez Thomas the instant OG didn’t get his Consul some of us started saying he’d be seriously pissed. It’s not rocket science.

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  70. reid (15,593 comments) says:

    What’s going to be really interesting is seeing whether OG can find a way to get Hulun as well without laying himself open. Obviously it was Clark who made the call to refuse the position after the story of his donations broke and she’s therefore the main target, Peters is just an appetiser. Trouble is, OG can’t accuse her of anything without implicating himself and that goes both ways as well, which is why Peters isn’t playing that particular card.

    Tee freakin hee.

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  71. bringbackthebiff (106 comments) says:

    I think the opening verse and chorus from the title track from Disturbed’s latest album Indestructible sums this all up. OG will come back, and this affair and I suggest the election represent wars neither the venal clark and her integrity challenged buddy winnie can win.

    Thanks Disturbed

    Another mission
    The powers have called me away
    Another time
    To carry the colors again
    My motivation
    An oath I’ve sworn to defend
    To win the honor
    Of coming back home again
    No explanation
    Will matter after we begin
    Another dark destroyer
    that’s buried within
    My true vocation
    And know my unfortunate friend
    You will discover
    A war you’re unable to win

    I’ll have you know
    That I’ve become…

    Indestructible
    Determination that is incorruptible
    From the other side
    A terror to behold
    Annihilation will be unavoidable
    Every broken enemy will know
    That their opponent had
    to be invincible
    Take a last look around
    while you’re alive
    I’m an indestructible master of war

    PS Philu can you avoid using full stops at the start of sentences, the way you write your posts is distracting. I end up not bothering to read them, thanks.

    BBTF

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  72. Paul Marsden (935 comments) says:

    The word from OG PR firm, is that Glenn is coming fully loaded with ‘T’s crossed and I’s dotted.

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  73. PaulL (5,776 comments) says:

    Loaded for whom tho Paul. Has he got buckshot for the bird that is already flushed out? Or an elephant gun for the big game?

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  74. wreck1080 (3,527 comments) says:

    Bah! Who cares about winnie now that labour is polling 6.5% off national. This election is going to be Helens I just know it. What a disaster movie times twenty!!

    I don’t get how labour get so much support when they are damaging the country so badly.

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  75. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,787 comments) says:

    Let the fun commence:
    Glenn jets in to have his say on donation

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  76. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    “..PS Philu can you avoid using full stops at the start of sentences, the way you write your posts is distracting. I end up not bothering to read them, thanks..”

    back at ya..!

    ..just replace ‘full stops’ with ‘turgid/adolescent/’metal’ lyrics’..

    ..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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