Key rules Hide in
John Key on Sunrise said that he was confident that Rodney Hide would be in Government with National, and be a Minister in a National-led Government.
While in one sense this is not surprising, it is I think the first time John Key has explicitly said that Hide will be a Minister.
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Tags: coalition options, Election 2008, John Key, Rodney Hide, Sunrise
October 30th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Who else has he got? Oh yeah, Peter Dunne.
Yay.
Any word on whether
cylonACT list candidate #3 is back in favour?October 30th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Hide for Minister of Dancing (or Education)
October 30th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
He said the same thing (surprise surprise) with Paul Henry on Breakfast on Tuesday (I think, Labour day’s doing my head in this week). JK also continued to rule Sir Roger out of his cabinet.
If there’s a clip on TVNZ’s site they had an amusing photoshop of Peter Dunne as Dracula and asked JK if he would re-consider Peter…
October 30th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Bout bloody time.
Hey that Bradford, Peters, Locke, Noman, Jum, Clark, Cullen clown car is looking real good there Llew.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Dunne would have to be Minister of Hairdressing (or Conservation – how many birds could live in that ‘fro of his)
October 30th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Brilliant! There is hope for the future, and I don’t have to bugger off to Texas.
Let’s make sure Rodney is Minister of Finance! PARTY VOTE ACT! PARTY VOTE ACT! PARTY VOTE ACT!!!!!!!!!
October 30th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Rodney for Education and Roger for Finance!
October 30th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
IMHO Sir Roger will not have an official post in the new administration but will be very influential in advising the government on financial matters and his advice will be acted on.
And to those who continue to sneer at Sir Roger Pray tell one financial policy introduced in the 1984 1987 LABOUR government that included the current Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minister that has been repealed over the past 9 years
Well come on Hurry up cat got your tongue
October 30th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
gd – if they won’t have him as finance minister, I hope that he (Douglas) is at least a part of the cabinet so that he can have input when it matters – otherwise his advice would have to go through Rodney.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
WraithX My understanding is whilst Rodders public stance is for Sir Roger to be the FM etc etc the political reality is that there are still too many nutbars who have a bee in their bonnet so the safe route is to keep Sir Roger under wraps.
I doubt Rodders will get Finance BE has that sown up
In the big scheme it doesnt matter and I very much doubt Sir Roger is losing any sleep as he is an old warrior who knows as long as his formidable contrbution is acted( pun intended) on then what the hell whose idea it is.
You see Sir Roger is one of the last of the old warriors where good of country counts more than ego as with Crazy and Cullen et al
October 30th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Key said on RadioNZ this morning when talking to Kathryn Ryan that he will not have Douglas in cabinet.
I’m sure he’s said that before.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Rodney performed extremely well and I believe was the clear winner in the small party debate.
I think it would be great to have Act, United Future and the Nats together
They are all on the frequency just at different volumes
October 30th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Douglas will not be in the cabinet. John Key has said–perhaps to Leighton Smith–specificially that he won’t have Douglas as he disagrees with his policies, both now, and during the 1980s.
This reveals an enormous amount about Key. I ask you, as was asked above, what true National supporter would disagree with the general thrust or indeed the specifics of what Douglas did to rescue the NZ economy in the 80s?
It’s difficult to see why Key would be so strongly agin Douglas.
There can only be two reasons. That Key is a true third-way centrist, like Tony Blair or Bill Clinton, or that somehow he was adversely affected by Labour policies when they freed up the financial sector starting in 84.
It reinforces my view that ACT are actually the real free enterprise/individual freedom party (aside from the Libz) , that Labour is truly on the left, and that National is now firmly in the centre fence-sitting position. We should keep in mind that the centre in NZ, as in all the western world, has moved left in recent decades, which places National further left now than Labour was in 84-87!! In fact, Key’s dissing of Douglas makes that position explicit.
That said, this election, for me, is about strategic voting, and I know it is for many others. I’ll welcome a National-ACT coalition, the most important reason being that it gets rid of the sickening slime that currently occupies the Beehive.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
BlairM, you seem pretty happy, would’ve thought it was a given he’d be in…
October 30th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
I think there should be a place in the Health Portfolio for Heather Roy. Over the last few years she has been as effective as Tony Ryall with far fewer opportunities.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Peter Dunne’s dream of being Deputy PM slips quietly away….
October 30th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
I think Heather Roy would get in because ACT manages to negotiate her in, not sure these things have anything to do with something silly like ‘performance’.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
If only a few others would slip quietly away.
Bradford, Peters, Locke, Noman, Jum, Clark, Cullen… this list seems hauntingly familer.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
WTF are you smoking boy?
October 30th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Much as I would like to see Rodney as Minister of Finance, the political reality is that ACT would need to get more than 5 seats to justify such a senior ministerial position. That’s not impossible but I would not rely on it.
I think a single mid-ranked portfolio such as Education, Transport or Agriculture would be something Rodney could get his teeth into.
The real question is, would he be Deputy Prime Minister…?
October 30th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
What’ve you got?
October 30th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
A socialist goverment.
By all means smoke them. I’ve got an M67 round here somewhere.
October 30th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Oh – Key rules Hide in.
Thank goodness for that. For a couple of seconds I swore I saw “Key reams Hide out”… but then, I often see homoerotic innuendo where really there’s none…
October 30th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
This is good news for when MMP gets kicked for touch: Hide, Roy and Douglas (in fact any ACT candidate who wins a seat this election) need to be absorbed into National slowly. When FPP returns, ACT, as a party, will be history. The influence of common sense MP’s on the current format of National will alter their present course which is towards the left and which is no use to anyone
under the see-saw game of FPP.
Of course the dream is that ACT does so well this election that a new game of FPP begins with 3 parties: National, ACT and Labour
October 30th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Not so fast kiddies, lets remember that any appointments to this putative National coalition will have to be agreed with Tariana Turia first.
You all seem to be in denial about that.
October 30th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Heather Roy as assoc Health would be a bloody good thing. If she could get one tenth of ACT health policy implemented it would be light years ahead of the shambles that labour have presided over for nine years
October 30th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Sonic – keep up boy
Maori Party faces big hurdles to the entrenchment of the Maori seats
By Andy Nicholls, Partner, Chapman Tripp, specialising in Public Law
Even if the Maori Party is king-maker after the elections with all the leverage that would confer, entrenchment of the Maori seats will still be beyond its grasp.
Entrenchment would require an amendment to the Electoral Act 1993. Some features of our electoral system are already entrenched: the three year term of Parliament, provisions relating to the setting of electorate boundaries, the voting age and the method of voting.
To change any of these features requires either a 75 per cent majority in the House or a majority of the votes cast in a public referendum.
All the other provisions in the Electoral Act, including the provisions dealing with the Maori seats, can be amended by a simple 50 per cent plus one vote.
The Maori Party has a policy of entrenching the Maori seats (and has the support of the Green Party for that proposal). This is a “bottom line” for the Maori Party in any post-election negotiations with National and labour.
However, to add the Maori seats to the list of entrenched matters will require more than a majority vote in Parliament. When entrenching something new, the Standing Orders and our constitutional conventions come into play.
The Standing Orders state: “A proposal for entrenchment must itself be carried in a committee of the whole House by the majority that it would require for the amendment or repeal of the provision to be entrenched.” In other words, a proposal for entrenchment can only be passed by the super-majority it proposes – in this case, 75 per cent.
The entrenchment rule was introduced by the non-partisan Standing Orders Committee following a review of Standing Orders in 1995. The rationale for this rule, of course, is that it is “inequitable” for a Parliament to pass a law under a simple majority vote that seeks to bind future Parliaments and generations by requiring them to assemble larger majorities to amend or repeal that law.
In constitutional terms, this is one of our important checks on majority decision-making. Minor parties like the Maori Party and the Greens will be alive to the importance of this constitutional rule.
On current polls, a 75 per cent vote in the next Parliament will require getting both National and Labour into the “ayes” lobby.
What this means for the Maori Party, even if it is in the position post-election to decide who gets to lead the next government, is it will have to somehow persuade both the suitor it is accepting and the suitor it is rejecting to support it.
October 30th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Fuck off you caladonian git.
October 30th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Hardly changes my point eh Pinkgina, National needs the Maori party far more than it needs ACT.
Murray, go and learn to spell so you can get a job.
October 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
goodgod “Of course the dream is that ACT does so well this election that a new game of FPP begins with 3 parties: National, ACT and Labour”
Well I’m dreaming of a return to a two party FPP system – ACT and National.
October 30th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
“Dunne would have to be Minister of Hairdressing (or Conservation – how many birds could live in that ‘fro of his)”
It’s more the look of a startled sheep.. as in a National enforcer pulling him out of his chair by the hair and laying the facts on him.
JC
October 30th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Hauges, a good point, with ACT on 1.6% of the vote who could disagree?
October 30th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Sonic,
National needs Maori far less than Labour and with ACT & the Hairdresser on board, even less
October 30th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Math not your strong point PinkGina?
October 30th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
According to the polls, its fine
October 30th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Well we will all just have to wait and see PinGina, and anything is possible. However I don’t think at the moment that the Nats along with Dunne and Rodders quite cut it.
October 30th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
sonic.. starting flamewars again? you BAN people that partake in such things..
guess thats how socialists are though.. do as i say, not as i do etc
October 30th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Sonic, did you do your calcs before Mike Williams nuked Labour with his pissed as a newtron bomb? Labour will be lucky to poll 30%.
October 30th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
well,I am one of the enormous,gigantic,silent majority.And I can’t wait until election day,to run out the front door and vote National.All the way!!I might even run out the back door.
October 30th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
When I picture the proposed Key/Hide/Dunne/Douglas government, why do I see the Adams Family?
October 30th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Sorry Dime, who did I ban and where?
Adolf, lets wait and see, I very much doubt that Labour will only get 30% however.
October 30th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
National alone are above 50% in all the scientific polls, the ones where they randomly generate numbers from a computer and have over 1k+ samples that is, but we will see come election day as I’m no clairvoyant.
But i will say this, if an over hang happens … Queen street and Spring box will look like a tea party.
October 30th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
“if an over hang happens … Queen street and Spring box will look like a tea party.”
You planning on taking to the barricades Banana?
October 30th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
About as much of a surprise as the Greens’ announcement they would be going with Labour. Completely the opposite reception to the news from “Kiwi” blog though…
October 30th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Or is it the Munsters?
October 30th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Test
October 30th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
We will see Sonic, i have a plane ticket and a few bottles of Ammonia not sure on which would be used
October 30th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Make sure you don’t get them mixed up Banana….
October 30th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Why are you so upset Sonic?
October 30th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Upset?
Well thats an interesting interpretation of my comments.
BTW I’m still waiting for you to tell all on how you have access to Labour’s internal polling.
October 30th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
He’s PD’s favourite rent boy. Cash discount for polling results.
You’d approve of that wouldn’t you sonic?
October 30th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
“When I picture the proposed Key/Hide/Dunne/Douglas government, why do I see the Adams Family?”
Well greenfly, your beloved green party has uncle fester (aka Kevin Hague) as an MP, the resemblance is remarkable!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noBf_y0dGwk
I think the greens will easily qualify as the head family of freaks in NZ at the moment.
October 30th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
My word sonic is doing overtime, all expenses paid dear leader. Why worry eh.
October 30th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Sonic, do you really think that I would betray a confidence?
Well only for money!
And a honorary consulship somewhere really nice.
And a massive injection of funds into my favoured sport.
Free food at Kermadec.
The best fish and Scampi Quotas in the country, and a chaffuer driven Krautmobile.
Oh and the right to retrospectively change any law I had ever possibly broken. Including speeding.
October 30th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Overtime, I’m surprised you know about that concept Dad 4 J (as it involves working)
October 30th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Kind of unnerving when your own comms are getting pinged eh sonic?
FFS you will be endorsing going into other political parties functions and recording loaded questions soon?
You are all history and you know it!
Eat my shorts sucker!
October 30th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Is that a long winded way of saying “I made it all up” GM?
“Your own comms gettiing pinged” Honest;y I’ve not heard that sort of nonsense since yahoo chat circa 1999.
You cannot really expect to pop up claiming you know the results of Labour’s internal polling without anyone asking you how do you?
Another one to add to the list of Kiwiblog fibbers. It’s becoming rather a long list.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
“Another one to add to the list of Kiwiblog fibbers. It’s becoming rather a long list.”
Its nothing compared to the one we have on the “fibs” of Helen Klark.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
What is it with the “we” ratbiter. What is about you collective socialist commies that you can never admit speaking for yourselves but have to pretend you are part of some grand collective!
Fuken stalinists, go back to you chicom general mates.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
You never told me how accurate my attempt at your CV was on the “Jordan’s election scorecard” thread. I guess your silence means I was pretty right. Never ever received anything but a government pay cheque have you.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
“What is it with the “we” ratbiter.”
Kiwibloggers. The ones that are part of the VRWC, and proud of it.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Oh still all proud of that cos Mr Farrar patted you on the head like a good little puppy? So now it’s “we”?
You must be so starved of affection and praise in the real world my sad little chum.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
Sonic, I might even be a ringer working for LA. You remember ‘rich prick’ from up North, and Belize.
Hell I might even be meeting up with current ‘loyal’ staffers and handing them brown paper envelopes.
Underwritten with a promise of a long term agreement to work with National.
You know the type, a bit pissed with being barked at by H2.
I might even have microwave equipment. FFS I might even have been trained for espionage.
At least we all know those things never happen!
So looks like I am a liar!
Bugga. Found out by a kiddie.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Great to see dear corrupt leader getting in a bit of election night practice by falling flat on her face as shown on One news.
She is about to experience another fall very soon, the only difference this time is that there will be nobody to pick her up.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
I’ll stick with you being another deranged fantasist if thats okGlutaemus Maximus.
Occam’s razor and all that.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
“You must be so starved of affection and praise in the real world my sad little chum.”
Sounds like you were stung somewhat.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
“I might even have microwave equipment. ”
800w of pure snack food reheating convenience.
That’s what I’m talking about baby, ooh yeah.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Well well look what the cat puked up. Out on parole again Sonic?
October 30th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Stung? nope just a little saddened by big tough redbaiter rolling over like a ill trained labrador.
Look David said was funny, and that made you feel all nice and fuzzy inside. Don’t make a fool of yourself by believing that he sees you as anything more than the class clown.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Hey Bruv- you notice Sonik has lost a bit of his bonhomie lately. Seems to be coming over all bitter and twisted. Wonder what could be the cause of that. Snigger….
October 30th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Yes Sonic.
I never trained at CTCRM, and later Poole Harbour.
Never had any experience whatsover.
Just a fantasist.
Wonder what you fantasise about kinder?
October 30th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Actually I also thought it was funny.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
sonic is rather scratchy tonight. Just imagine the smell?
October 30th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Glad to see you admit it Glutaemus Maximus, confession is good for the soul.
Now any chance we could move on? While you might love the whole thread to turn into a discussion about you, some of us would rather debate more important issues.
Called Bitter and twisted by Ratbiter? Well that is a first.
I do have to say guys, I’m certainly not laughing with you…
October 30th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
1100kw is the best Nefarious!
You can really put kittens through hell!
October 30th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
sonic, please don’t use the word “soul” as you are completely devoid in that department.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
“I do have to say guys, I’m certainly not laughing with you…”
Can’t take a bit of good natured ribbing. Its not our fault that everything Klark touches turns to shit.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
1100kw?
What is it? A death ray?
I must admit I haven’t seen that model in Panasonic’s range but it would go down a storm in Japan. Imagine being able to cook a whole whale in only 15mins, that would really piss off the greens.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Sonic, you only have a few hours of fun before you have to clock off. the cleaners will be arriving soon if not already.
Some good programmes on TV. We can all watch H1 fall flat on her face, again.
Maybe if you want some good career prospects you might want to get in touch with me?
Got to go Corries just started.
I do miss home.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Thats ok GM, after all in this age of cutbacks very few MacDonald’s can afford two people sweeping up.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Sonic is probably a closet National .. or worse yet .. a closet Act, so he takes his anger and frustration out on us, when really all he wants to do is join us. It’s cool i know how you feel, i use to be an Lefty before i kicked the habit.
Heres hoping the next Neutron bomb that Private Investigator Mike “the hammer” Williams unleashes is more powerful than a damp firecracker from china.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Are you a MacDonald’s broomstick sonic?
Kentucky Fly?
October 30th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
“Thats ok GM, after all in this age of cutbacks very few MacDonald’s can afford two people sweeping up.”
I call bullshit on that one cockbreath. The dole bludgers, and all those poor “sickness” beneficiaries are still getting their government salary, along with the part timers with their welfare for families top ups. The “laber” customers who are unable to read the tax payer funded health propaganda still need their fast food.
Macca’s will still be doing a roaring trade so your job is safe.
October 30th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Key was clear on 9 to noon this morning
He’ll go with Rodney but not with Rodger
Too much baggage hanging on the old codger
Winston is like a one man circus he said
He didn’t have time for the distractions
Best I’ve heard Key explain himself
Reckoned his expeience as a futures trader gives him better knowlege of whats happening – deeper understanding of how to adjust
This is what I want to hear about
Fuck who did what when & how
October 30th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Redbaiter
I had noticed that about Sonic.
To be fair he used to be able to put together a reasonable argument a few months back, yes his point of view was laced with the usual pinko lies and half truths but at least he presented it in a coherent and almost believable fashion.
It seems that the impending thrashing dear corrupt leader is about to take has stressed the poor sod out, I can only imagine how frustrating this is for him, of course we can see that frustration in his recent contributions, sadly they amount to nothing more than mindless abuse more befitting some of the crap we read from D4J.
One more thing…just in case this post comes across as sympathetic toward Sonic I need to point out very clearly that it is not, I take great joy from the misery soon to be inflicted on those from the left and on the likes of Sonic, Roger and in particular that utter c**t Clinton Smith, it is safe to assume that come Sunday the 9th of November the only thing that will be stopping the smile on my incredibly attractive face will be my ears!
October 30th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
About time
Rodney’s finally been rcognised.
Though I get the feeling if Don had still been leader that may not have been the case.
Don represented the right wing snobby element of National that hasn’t been to the fore since the eighties
and are the reason for Nationals image problems. I can understand John Key having membrs of that element in his cabinet, though (lockywood) if they are contributing to the cause meaningfully. But the risk is that one too many of them leave a pungent scent that tends to stick around for a long time. And this helps disintergrate the reputations of solid performers.
As it is, there’s no reason why National aren’t looking at an automatic two term tenure and Liarbour are well aware of it.
After their false fraudulent campaign, National have as good as won the election from here on in.
Liarbour shot themselves in the foot and the wound is years in the healing!
October 30th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
From the dompost:
“Labour unveils $50m redundancy package
By COLIN ESPINER – The Press
Labour has unveiled a 13-week cash benefit to be paid to workers who lose their jobs in tough economic times. ”
And that is just for the hundreds of peurile tax payer funded bloggers working under firm orders from H2!
You will never have a job as good again!
Eat my shorts retards!
October 30th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Lefties clocked off for the night again!
Funny that.
Aw bless, not many pay cheques left.
And Wellington is so dear rental wise!
October 30th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Hi Glutaemus – whats that $1,500 you were talking about – Nat over 55% ?
October 30th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Someone has to carry on the old Liarbour post of Minister for Disarmnament and seeing the DSP candidate Russel Norman will not be in the Politbureau Rodney is the only person with a yellow jacket so he is a shoo in. Dance on my friend——-.
October 30th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
GM,
The lefty trolls are following the example of Hodgson and Williams who didn’t front up on CloseUp and are too chicken to defend themselves.
October 30th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
My offer of a wager is now $1k per confirmed leftie that National will get 55% or more of the Party vote.
Mickysavage said yes and the bailed.
No other takers from the trolls so far.
Centre to right bids not accepted!
Sorry, but I want to take money off pinkos!
October 30th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
You’re a persistant bugger aren’t you Glutaemus
October 30th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Glutaeus – I am as pink as they come! Please take my money!
October 30th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Are Pinko dollars acceptable on the kiwiblog stock exchange Mr Stock Choked?
October 30th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Don, I have been variously described as a mono maniac on a mission!
Or a Yorkshire Terrier.
Stockbroker, please deposit your details to DPF. He knows that I am good for the money.
I will do the client account thing here if necessary.
And if Mickey still wants to play he can do the same thing!
Just looking for the 3rd retard.
Make heaps during the RWC. Kiwis are so easy!
October 30th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
So who will be joining me at Sky City next Saturday night?
I’m going to get fuckin trashed.
I did the same last time at Ellerslie, but that was to drown my sorrow.
October 30th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
You make such an attractive proposal G.M.!
But really, you can shove it up between your gluteus maximii for all I care…
October 30th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Of Dear Ratbiter worried about next months rent are we?
I am happy to be retired, good looking, fit and firm, and ultra happy.
Just wish I was a male!
October 30th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Greetings Dad4: I have been away on Waltons Mountain for the sheep shagging and have missed youall. What is happenning in your life. Cheers Johnboy.
October 30th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
OK GM, I’m on if you’re on! But if I vote ACT are you still game?
October 30th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Nice to hear about your sheep shagging mission. I hope you enjoyed the experience John Boy. Lots happening , once election over mission completed , exit blogosphere and back into real world. Goodnight John Boy Walton.
October 30th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
Sorry Stockbroker but ACT hardly qualifies for being any shade of red!
National for me, but ACT are very tempting!
October 30th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
But seriously GM – is it definetly not a bet if I vote Act, Nat (or Dunny?). And if so, why? (I’m genuinely interested)
October 30th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Sorry to be boring, but I want to take money off a pinko.
Especially the golden ones that infest the computers in and around Wellington!
October 30th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
I fully understand. If you want to take my money and no-one else bites then let me know. National won’t get over 55%, but if they do I will be so happy that $1,000 is a very small price to pay. Why are you so confident?
October 30th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
PS – a pinko won’t pay you either – guaranteed – so you are on a hiding to nothing
October 30th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Dad4. You must not exit blogosphere after Helengrad is destroyed. It will be a much diminished sphere without you.
(Dont tell anyone else but sheep aint that flash (apart from Flossie) and I will never find her like again).
October 30th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
I’ve just worked out why TV3 News is so pinko. They’re being funded by the Labour Party.
Go to decision08.co.nz and guess what the top banner ad is? Yes is the two Johns ad by the Labour Party.
Personally I think this stinks. The website is promoted as being informative about the election and latest news yet anyone who visits the site is hit by that pinko bullshit.
Shame on you TV3.
October 30th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
pdm – at 3:22 you said: “I think there should be a place in the Health Portfolio for Heather Roy.”
I completely agree – unfortunately I think Ryall comes across as arrogant – which is fine – but I think the average kiwi watching the news will warm much more to Heather than Tony when the Ministry is re-organised and fixed up. And frankly, Heather deserves some kudos for her efforts. It is absolutely clear to me that she loves this country and has been a great asset in parliament. We had coffee together a couple of weeks ago and she is an amazingly passionate and friendly woman – we need more women like her in government – it would certainly be a breath of fresh air to the vile bitter harpies that Labour has on board.
October 30th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
pushmepullyou: “The real question is, would he be Deputy Prime Minister…?”
What a dream government that would be! Our two top positions held by men of integrity – when was the last time we saw THAT in a government in New Zealand? Rodney (with Roger behind the scenes) would be a brilliant deputy. In fact, he would be a brilliant PM! Some years ago when Richard Prebble left the ACT party, we (the members) got to vote for the new leader. I voted for Stephen Franks because I knew him and he was a great clear-headed guy. I was annoyed that Rodney won – but I have completely reversed my position now. Rodney has more integrity than the majority of the parliament put together and, having seen him speak publicly, is a man with a great future here.
Party vote ACT! I really believe that ACT will surpass 5% – they are polling brilliantly on the various news sites and the reason they are low in the phone polls is that so many people who support their policies are so busy they don’t have time to answer the phone and answer questions from a complete stranger. But on election day – they will be at the polls!
October 30th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
Why did I think that SA would win the RWC?
Why did I think that England would be a finalist?
Why do I love taking money off people?
October 30th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Have a quick look at the NZH latest poll about who you would most like to teach your children?
Don’t forget that this is unscientific, and only accounts for 10x a normal poll.
Oh and Labour are now desperate!
So much to hide , and such little time, and so many defectors holding information!
October 30th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
PinkGina said: “All the other provisions in the Electoral Act, including the provisions dealing with the Maori seats, can be amended by a simple 50 per cent plus one vote.”
Does that mean that to entrench the Maori seats requires 75% of parliament or a referendum – but abolishing them requires 50% + 1? If so, National need not wait for the treaty issues to be resolved – it can act on the advice of the electoral commission and abolish the Maori seats before Christmas (presuming they do win a 50% + 1 majority). If that is the case, and were it to happen, would the then current parliament be in crisis for having 7 seats that no longer exist or would the law be changed to abolish them from the next election? Frankly – this sounds pretty darned good to me!
October 30th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Hagues: “Well I’m dreaming of a return to a two party FPP system – ACT and National.”
While I am sure most don’t want to hear it – that is the closest I have come to having an orgasm while reading blog comments!
October 30th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Well I don’t know whether to be flattered or disgusted lol.
October 30th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
For those who haven’t seen “the fall” – here it is on YouTube – shame the odious harpie didn’t break her neck!
October 30th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Hagues: both is fair
October 30th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Typical of Helen—hoping to be saved by ethnic support.
October 30th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Still must be the first real man she has groped in a while.
October 30th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
What a dream government that would be! Our two top positions held by men of integrity – when was the last time we saw THAT in a government in New Zealand?
The last time was 1999, when Jenny Shipley was Prime Minister and Wyatt Creech was Deputy Prime Minister. Those were good, prosperous times. Here’s hope we’ll see their return soon.
October 30th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
John Key is dreaming if he thinks he can dictate terms to ACT. More likely the other way around and ACT will be calling the shots. National will need ACT to form a government. Who else is National going to negotiate with? The Maori party? Ha, ha, ha.
It’s really simple on 9 November; all Rodney needs to say to John Key is that if he wants to be Prime Minister of a stable government then he had better appoint Rodger Douglas as Finance minister. Alternatively he can go cap in hand for every piece of legislation National wants to pass and negotiate with such stable elements of New Zealand’s political spectrum as the Maori party and the Greens.
October 30th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
OECD rank 22 kiwi: I am going to say two rosaries tonight that you are right!
October 30th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
WraithX says:
It would be even simpler than that. All national needs to do is slip an additional question in about abolishing the Maori seats with the Anti-smacking law question next year. What are the odds that 90% of New Zealander who respond to the referendum say “See ya” to the Maori Seats? Hey presto, the people have spoken, the Maori seats are gone, the Left vomit into their mouths yet some more.
October 31st, 2008 at 2:01 am
Fucking Brilliant!
John Boy, Rodders and Rodge, what a team, storming back to the top of the OECD!
The only thing that will put the cream on this news will be: Both the watermelons and Winston First failing to get 5%…. collectively.
October 31st, 2008 at 4:28 am
Now after the crushing election defeat of the left, we need to quickly form a right-wing police state and start rounding up all the commies, that have done so much damage to this country over the last 9 years! We can’t afford to ever let the left establish a foot-hold to upsurp power in Godzone again! I say pull them from their beds early in the morning (our police are already trained in these methods), try them for crimes against the state and then ship them all off to Cuba or any commie country stupid enough to have them.
Only then will I be able to change my name to DamnedHAPPY!
October 31st, 2008 at 8:39 am
smells like freedom