Full list of MPs Salaries

November 20th, 2008 at 10:57 pm by David Farrar

Parliament now has the determination on line. These salaries are backdated to 1 July 2008 so Helen gets a golden handshake :-)

Salary levels are:

  1. $393,000 – Prime Minister (1)
  2. $276,700 – Deputy Prime Minister (1)
  3. $243,700 – Cabinet Ministers, Speaker, Opposition Leader (20)
  4. $204,300 – Non Cabinet Ministers (8)
  5. $180,400 – Senior Government Whip (1)
  6. $176,900 – Minister without portfolios (0)
  7. $176,170 – Labour Deputy Leader (1)
  8. $176,100 – Labour Senior Whip (1)
  9. $169,900 – Deputy Speaker (1)
  10. $157,000 – Parliamentary Under Secretaries (0)
  11. $155,900 – Green Party Leader – Eight MPs (1)
  12. $146,900 – Green Party Whip (1)
  13. $144,500 – Assistant Speakers, Progressive Party Leader, Maori Party Whip, ACT Whip, National and Labour Junior Whips (7)
  14. $144,500 – Select Committee Chairs (14)
  15. $135,300 – Select Committee Deputy Chairs (14)
  16. $131,000 – All other MPs (51)

For those interested, the total annual salary bill will be $19,793,170 and the average salary is 162,239. The median salary however is $135,300.

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28 Responses to “Full list of MPs Salaries”

  1. reid (16,634 comments) says:

    DPF I presume these salaries don’t take into account the full benefit package. As you know in the private sector these are normally factored in and the remuneration package is quoted as a collection of all benefits. What’s the calculation then if you factor all of that in?

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  2. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,753 comments) says:

    Helen Clark doesn’t deserve a golden handshake.

    A good kick up the backside yes, a golden handshake no.

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  3. Turpin (342 comments) says:

    Its amazing in a whole day and a 4% pay rise.
    thank god for whale oil’s anger management piece.
    at least there I laughed until I cried.

    John Boy gets $18,000 which he’ll give away probably.
    Like tax cuts I’d prefer they didn’t get it in the first place

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  4. Madeleine (230 comments) says:

    In the private sector Total Rem is a fairly recent phenomenon but then in the private sector you do not typically find the extent and type of benefits that MP’s get. I doubt it would be easy to quantify given the range of benefits available to MP’s.

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  5. reid (16,634 comments) says:

    “I doubt it would be easy to quantify given the range of benefits available to MP’s.

    Exactly, Madeleine.

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  6. Madeleine (230 comments) says:

    Yep, its an insane amount of benefits and some of those available are utterly ridiculous when put alongside the private sector.

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  7. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Why can’t we scale their wages to GDP plus or minus, yes government works outside this but everyone else has to work with what they get in their hand.

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  8. Dazzaman (1,146 comments) says:

    Well, I guess, as they say “chickens don’t vote for Christmas”, so I presume “MP’s don’t vote for benefit package reductions”. If only the benefits were similar to private sector ones like……how about….requirements to sit refresher papers. :smile:

    We might actually get a decently qualified & upskilled representative for the money!!

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  9. reid (16,634 comments) says:

    “Why can’t we scale their wages to GDP plus or minus”

    What a great idea SSB. Add in a few more things like a productivity index and you’ve got a winner. What I’ve always wanted was some accountability.

    It pisses me off to see the peacockery in some of these people who wouldn’t get equivalent jobs anywhere else yet the system pampers their delicate backsides from time of entry to their grave. Some deserve our gratitude. The majority doesn’t. Most are in it for ego reasons rather than to serve. Fuck em. Hold em to account, in full.

    If someone fucks up and it costs the country, they don’t get their pension. Not one cent. OTOH if someone does really well and this is measured over time not just over their term of office, then they get rewarded accordingly. I have no problem paying someone $10,000,000 a year if he makes the country richer by whatever margin we agree is fair and equitable.

    We hardly ever get really talented people in this place cause we don’t pay such people enough. Key is a rare exception. On the other hand why should we ever pay people like Kopu a single cent?

    It’s a hard question with lots of variables and how do we determine success and failure? Let me give you an example of failure. I would refuse the pension to the Agriculture Minister who decided to allow attack dogs into the country. We didn’t used to have Tosers, Pitbulls and the rest. Has it been beneficial? Were the problems foreseeable? Well duh. No pension, and he’s lucky we don’t require him to re-sit Level 1 NCEA for the rest of his life.

    Success is much harder to judge. I would give Roger Douglas that mark but many wouldn’t. If we applied ourselves to developing transparent and broadly consensual criteria however this could work quite well. Except of course in times like these where every decision will come down to the lessor of two pains.

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  10. Glutaemus Maximus (2,207 comments) says:

    Have a look at the Rem package of the outgoing CEO of the listed company THL.

    He was on over $500k and did little to build stakeholder value.

    I honestly think that the Salary for the PM of NZ should be above Telecom!

    A $1.5 money package is not extreme. FFS it is only 500kGBP

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  11. Sector 7g (242 comments) says:

    Looks like Labour are still all a bunch of rich pricks even after defeat.

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  12. Danyl Mclauchlan (1,071 comments) says:

    Yep, its an insane amount of benefits and some of those available are utterly ridiculous when put alongside the private sector.

    Like what? MP’s get more benefits than, say, the receptionist at Fonterra but their jobs are more comparable to the EO’s and Directors. What do MP’s get that company directors don’t?

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  13. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    Can we run a politicians survivor island and fire one without benefits each month to inspire the rest to NOT be the most idle useless prick in the place which seems to have been the goal over the last decade.

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  14. expat (4,050 comments) says:

    Constituency office allowances, housing allowances, travel allowances, superannuation, any others?

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  15. big bruv (14,160 comments) says:

    Good Point Murray, given the demise of Tizard I wonder who will take the title of the most useless MP.

    The list of candidates is disappointingly long

    For me the contenders are Pillay, Fenton, Choudhary, Tisch, Wilkinson, Roy, All apartheid MP’s, Locke, Bradford, Delehunty, Anderton and last but by no means least Dunne.

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  16. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    Indeed a target rich environment.

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  17. David Farrar (1,902 comments) says:

    Actually the salaries are calculated on a total remuneration package and the value of any “perks” are deducated to get a salary figure.

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  18. Mr Nobody NZ (391 comments) says:

    Can somebody explain what the Parliamentary Under Secretaries do and why they get paid $157,000?

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  19. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,753 comments) says:

    The vast bulk of MP’s can be classified as New Zealand’s highest paid welfare beneficiaries.

    I’m particularly thinking of Helen Clark and Michael Cullen.

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  20. Ross Miller (1,706 comments) says:

    For Dazzaman … the MPs don’t get to vote on this. It’s a determination by the HSC.

    For Mr Nobody… there haven’t been any Parliamentary Under Secretaries since 2002 (some-one will correct me if I am wrong but I think the last person to be one was John Wright, Leader of the Democrats part of the Alliance). It was a sort of a consulation prize for some-one who didn’t make it to the Executive. PUS were bound by Cabinet Collective Responsibility and received many of the ‘perks’ of Cabinet Ministers. With the proliferation of Ministers outside Cabinet I don’t think we’re going to see them again.

    For David … I know it doesn’t matter for the Maori Party with Sharples & Turia members of the Executive but how does the Leaders Salary for the Greens work out with Co-Leaders … they don’t both get it do they? (because if they did the trick would be to declare all 8 of them co-leaders … just the sort of rotten thing socialists would do)

    [DPF: I am almost certain only one of them gets it, or they split it between them (the extra that is)

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  21. Turpin (342 comments) says:

    Murray
    “Can we run a politicians survivor island and fire one without benefits each month to inspire the rest to NOT be the most idle useless prick in the place which seems to have been the goal over the last decade”.

    Why not have a big Bruv txt/0900 vote in every month.
    say three strikes and your out!

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  22. reid (16,634 comments) says:

    “Actually the salaries are calculated on a total remuneration package and the value of any “perks” are deducated to get a salary figure.”

    So what are the totals then DPF?

    [DPF: Sadly they only published the full calculations once a few years ago. Going off memory when the salary was $118,000 the full package was valued at $140,000. So add around $25,000 for total rem I would say. The super subsidy is most of that at 20% of gross salary]

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  23. Ramsay (123 comments) says:

    Compare the Minister’s salary to that of their CEO – for example Welfare, the Ministry of Social Development. Peter Hughes, as the CEO of MSD, actually earns more than the Minister he is responsible to, Hon Paula Bennett. Something is definitely out of whack here …………

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  24. goodgod (1,348 comments) says:

    … the MPs don’t get to vote on this. It’s a determination by the HSC.

    yeah so shut it! there’s nothing anyone can do. ever. at all. we’ve never amended the HSC act. ever. ever ever. so just keep doling out the cash. and like it.

    :shock:

    Turpin (164) 2positive 8negetive Says:

    November 20th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
    Its amazing in a whole day and a 4% pay rise.
    thank god for whale oil’s anger management piece.
    at least there I laughed until I cried.

    John Boy gets $18,000 which he’ll give away probably.
    Like tax cuts I’d prefer they didn’t get it in the first place

    tow the party line damn it, or there’ll be more negetive karma for you! Stop pointing out the obvious! Remember the slogan: National =good, blameless, pearly white innocence… Labour = bad, evil, corrupt, thieves!

    :shock:

    :lol:

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  25. GJ (329 comments) says:

    With the responsibility that the Prime Minister and those in Cabinet hold for the well being and prosperity of New Zealand I feel that they are grossly underpaid.
    Just look at the salaries of some of the CEO’s of our major companies and do a comparison. Pay peanuts and you get monkeys.
    In regards the perks. In many cases the perks of an average MP are not dissimilar to a salesman that has a nation wide territory to look after. I.e. Travel expenses, accommodation, phones etc. and they certainly do longer hours.
    I think we need to stop being knockers and appreciate the responsibility they carry if they are doing their job properly.

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  26. Ross Miller (1,706 comments) says:

    No goodgod … it doesn’t mean that we can’t criticise. But I remember the time when MPs set their own remuneration packages and the by product of that was while the salary component was set low so as to not antagonise voterland (but they got upset anyway) they certainly made it up on the non salary component (superannuation, travel (even after they left parliament) etc etc.

    So the decision was made to take it out of their hands and pass it to the HSC and I support that. Should Parliament then vote on the HSC determination? what’s the point of that … they’re either going to accept it or reject it as too little or too much and what happens then?

    Look, before we get too carried away the base salary for an MP as about equivalent to the Headmaster of a medium to big secondary school or a Lt Col equivalent in the armed services. At the top end its bettered by a number of Public Servants.

    The real catcher for me is that it’s performance based and we get to call on that every three years.

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  27. baxter (893 comments) says:

    Well I heard on the news that the NZ Prime Minister now gets more than the Australian one (389K).. A few years ago I checked on the remuneration of Aussie members and they were well below ours. The HSC is a farce if he doesn’t please the members he can be replaced as easily and quickly as the Transpower Commissioner, or his own salary won’t rise as much. It would be better to set a base rate and increase it in line with the average wage increase of all New Zealanders.

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  28. wikiriwhis business (4,131 comments) says:

    Only the elite get those wages and thats why MMP is imperative

    to keep them in check

    and no wonder John Key wants to see it gone

    NZ, keep MMP!!!!!

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