Helen’s new job?

February 7th, 2009 at 2:25 pm by David Farrar

I have heard from a highly reliable source that at the recent Pacific Islands Forum, support was canvassed by the NZ Government for a candidacy by to take up the post of Administrator of the Development Programme.

A few weeks ago on 12 January 2009, the UN Secretary-General announced that the current Administrator, Kemal Dervis, was retiring. His four year term ends on 15 August 2009.

The role is a very very senior one at the United Nations. It is basically third only to the Secretary-General and the Deputy Secretary-General. They chair the UN Development Group, which is a committee consisting of the heads of all UN funds, programmes and departments dealing with development issues. This is as big as it gets basically.

My initial source is not anyone within Government or Parliament, or anyone associated with them – I am happy to sign an affidavit to that. I have spies everywhere :-) As the story is potentially quite significant I e-mailed the PM’s Chief Press Secretary with the guts of what I had learnt, and asked if they could comment on its accuracy. They have declined to comment which suggests to me it is not without substance.

The role is not elected at large, but appointed by the Secretary-General, and confirmed by the General Assembly. So one does need to have good consensus behind the appointment – however it is not a lobbying game to the same extent say the WTO Director-General was.

Helen will not be the only candidate. It is likely there will be a couple of candidates from within the UN bureaucracy – development and aid specialists. So it will be a choice between a candidate with political leadership experience vs candidates with fulltime development backgrounds. While the decision is the Secretary-General’s, Barack Obama’s support will be influential as the UN wants to build ties with the new administration. All bar the last two Administrators have been Americans.

The annual budget of the UNDP is close to US$5 billion and they work in 166 countries. This is arguably the most senior job one could expect Helen to obtain as the UN Secretary-General job is done by rotation amongst the regions.

So what’s my reaction to the candidacy, if it is in play? I think it goes without saying that I have not been Helen’s biggest fan. It doesn’t concern me that she led a Government whose policies I disagreed with. Talent doesn’t come from just one side of the political spectrum. And I have generally regarded Clark as an able political administrator – as have most of the public.

But I do have some concerns. To me the pre 2005 Helen Clark is different to the post 2005 Clark. I’m not sure what happened, but somewhere along the way Helen seemed to lose her previously reliable judgement. From 2005 to 2008 she made the wrong call on almost every big issue such as the deliberate over-spending, the initial refusal to pay back the pledge card costs, the inquiry into Taito Philip Field, the Benson-Pope sagas, the Electoral Finance Act, the “trust” campaign against John Key and most of all her continual defence of Winston that defied comprehension. I saw a disturbing commitment to the ends justify the means, which is a slippery slope.

So if the last three years had never happened, I would say supporting the candidacy would be a no brainer.  I feel much more conflicted after the last three years, but then I look at the particulars of the position:

  • Helen has a lifetime of experience and passion on “development” issues and would bring that to the job. If it was IMF Managing Director I’d be worried :-)
  • She has a formidable international network that would be of great benefit in the job
  • As a former Prime Minister she would bring considerable status to the role, making it easier to get in the door with donor nations
  • New Zealand has a very proud history of doing our part, despite our small economy, with development issues and the opportunity to have a New Zealander heading up the UNDP is a once in a lifetime chance.

So I conclude that just as we supported Mike Moore, Denis Marshall, SImon Upton and Don McKinnon to international jobs, we should also support the candidacy of Helen Elizabeth Clark to the position of Administrator of the United Nations Development Programme. There is a time to put partisan politics behind us.

I am sure there will be plenty of people agreeing and disagreeing in the comments! For those who think I have lost my marbles, well then consider that Angelina Jolie is is a UNDP Global Ambassador, so if Helen gets the top job that increases the chances Angelina may visit New Zealand :-)

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67 Responses to “Helen’s new job?”

  1. big bruv (13,886 comments) says:

    “we should also support the candidacy of Helen Elizabeth Clark to the position of Administrator of the United Nations Development Programme. There is a time to put partisan politics behind us.”

    You’re joking DPF surely.

    You want those of us from the VRWC to support the bilious bitch and show her the consideration she refused to show toward any of her opponents over the last fifteen or so years?

    She is the person who has NEVER put partisan politics behind her when making any appointment, all her cronies and lackeys have been rewarded with plum govt jobs at the tax payers expense and you expect us to forgive and forget?

    FUCK THAT…..she can rot on the back benches as far as I am concerned.

    [DPF: Actually she supported Don McKinnon for Commonwealth Secretary-General. But I was thinking of you when I said some people will disagree with me :-)]

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  2. getstaffed (9,186 comments) says:

    There is a time to put partisan politics behind us.

    Partisan politics has nothing to do with it for me. Helen Clark is dishonest, self-serving and manipulative. She is a legacy of the very worst of 20th century leadership styles – and I use the term leadership loosely. The UN needs less of her type. So does the world.

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  3. big bruv (13,886 comments) says:

    “Helen Clark is dishonest, self-serving and manipulative.”

    She would fit in well at the UN then.

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  4. stuarts-burgers (96 comments) says:

    And just think if Angelina Jolie does visit will she bring Brad and the gaggle of kids.Maybe they could adopt a nice kid from NZ you know like of Ms Kahui’s ???( you know who I mean) new one.

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  5. Jack5 (5,137 comments) says:

    There may be a time to put partisan politics behind us but it’s surely not on pushing Clark for a job like this. Could NZ put its hand over its collective heart and describe H1 as honest and straightforward person, straight up and down, and with an unblemished record? No way.

    You wouldn’t want H1 managing the Christmas party fund of a shearing gang.

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  6. getstaffed (9,186 comments) says:

    The annual budget of the UNDP is close to US$5 billion and they work in 166 countries

    If she did get the job… I wonder how many of these countries would experience their first GLBT Mardi Gras before they got fresh drinking water.

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  7. MT_Tinman (3,186 comments) says:

    The only positive I can see for this appointment is it would get the conniving bitch out of NZ fort long periods of time.

    As BB noted the UN, the organisation that proves there is such a thing as a free lunch, would suit Clark but I doubt the world is ready for yet another scumbag.

    Far better to appoint her deputy head UN shit-house cleaner in Liberia.

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  8. Michael E (274 comments) says:

    If this is what Helen Clark wants to do, then she should go for it – and the Government should support it.

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  9. bwakile (757 comments) says:

    If scheming, lying, theft of taxpayers money and the absolute pursuit of power is a prerequisite to a top job in the UN, then Clark is the man for the job . No question.

    God help the poor buggers in the 166 countries though.

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  10. Adam (562 comments) says:

    If ever there was a reason to disband the UN it would be the appointment of Helen Clark.

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  11. LUCY (359 comments) says:

    big bruv (2470) Vote: 6 0 Says:

    February 7th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
    “Helen Clark is dishonest, self-serving and manipulative.”

    She would fit in well at the UN then.

    Exactly BB exactly.

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  12. MajorBloodnok (361 comments) says:

    My main concern would be her partisan attitude regarding countries like Israel. If you cannot be trusted with little things (like a country the size of NZ), how can you be trusted with big things?

    Plus, by getting herself entrenched within the UN, how many cronies will she appoint? (Where will H2 end up?) What UN Declarations (that override the laws within sovereign nations) will she draft or oversee?

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  13. MajorBloodnok (361 comments) says:

    I’d nominate her for head of UN supply distribution in Gaza though.

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  14. Manolo (13,755 comments) says:

    I wouldn’t support her appointment for a minute.

    The thought of former Dear Leader surrounded by a coterie of flunkies, do-gooders, left-wingers and fat-cat bureaucrats (these adjectives are not mutually exclusive, quite the contrary), is too horrible to contemplate.

    If the appointment takes place it will another proof of the uselesness of the United Nations. Such organisation deserves to be disbanded.

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  15. bringbackthebiff (99 comments) says:

    And this comes as a surprise. Thats all that venal [deleted by DPF] spent the last 5-6 years setting herself up for. She was prepared to sell us all out for it. She perpetuated and pedaled the multicultral myth, and oversaw the systematic destruction of the family unit, thus practically creating another state in what the UN would call in need of its help.

    She has basically helped expand its job.

    Two thumbs up

    Helen has inspired me to be a better person, so that if their is a god, I’ll not have to spend an eternity in hell with her when I die.

    BBTB

    PS give yourself demerits and an upper cut while you are at it and snap out of it DPF

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  16. vibenna (305 comments) says:

    I agree with you on all counts DPF. I’ve concluded Helen Clark was thrown off her game by Don Brash, and she never got back in the zone. I disagreed with many of her 2005-08 actions, and I think she made some big mistakes. But hey, we’re all human.

    And for those of you full of abuse … you had your say at the ballot box. Get over it. Besides, don’t you think there might come a time when each of you need a little forgiveness and support? Houses. Glass. Stones.

    Go Helen!

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  17. Deborah (156 comments) says:

    I disagree with some of the points in your post, DPF (there’s a surprise!) but not with the overall position, that we (i.e. New Zealand) should support Helen Clark in this candidacy.

    I am astounded all over again by the venom and bile in this comments thread. In all seriousness, David – do you sometimes feel ashamed of the comments that people make here?

    [DPF: Of course not. I only feel shame for what I say, not what thousands of other people choose to say.]

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  18. goodgod (1,348 comments) says:

    Helen has a lifetime of experience and passion on “development” issues and would bring that to the job. If it was IMF Managing Director I’d be worried
    She has a formidable international network that would be of great benefit in the job
    As a former Prime Minister she would bring considerable status to the role, making it easier to get in the door with donor nations
    New Zealand has a very proud history of doing our part, despite our small economy, with development issues and the opportunity to have a New Zealander heading up the UNDP is a once in a lifetime chance.

    You could write one of these for Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro, Mugabe et al. at a push. But when you insert the events back into context you find they were, on balance, utter ratbags.

    Go on, write me one for Winston. :lol:

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  19. fredinthegrass (273 comments) says:

    Your four ‘bullet’ points seem fair enough DPF, but do you really think
    she has the bottle to handle the job.
    I mean – third in the UN hierachy.
    If vibenna is right, and I believe she is, that Don Brash threw her off her game
    she will struggle in the cauldron of UN politics.

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  20. big bruv (13,886 comments) says:

    So Deborah is “astounded all over again by the venom and bile in this comments thread”

    I wonder if Deborah was “astounded” at the constant venom and bile pouring from the mouth of dear leader during the last election campaign?.
    I wonder if Deborah was “astounded” at the way Klark lied to the people of NZ time and time again.

    Somehow I doubt it, the left are quick to try and claim the moral high ground when it suits them and just as quick to revert to their muck raking, nasty and vicious ways when it does not.

    In all seriousness Deborah, Klark is now reaping what she spent nine years sowing and as any farmer will tell you if you sow bad seed you can expect bad results.

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  21. baxter (893 comments) says:

    Will she stand a chance if Mugabe tries for the position after he resigns as President of Zimbabwe he seems to have many of the abilities that D.P.F. abscribes to her.

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  22. JC (955 comments) says:

    No, I don’t favour her for the job. She would be bad for the UN and really, we would be doing what some employers do.. giving a great reference in order to move on a troublesome employee.

    So suck it up boyos.. she’s ours, and we should keep her in our asylum, not the one at the UN. We owe the world *that* much.

    JC

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  23. dad4justice (8,219 comments) says:

    Congratulations Helen, did you fly broomstick airways to jump into a bigger corrupt cauldron of deceit?

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  24. beautox (422 comments) says:

    Send the [deleted by DPF] to the UN. They deserve each other.

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  25. Sector 7g (240 comments) says:

    Helen Clark is an utter disgrace to New Zealand and she should be hidden from view.

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  26. serge (108 comments) says:

    Helen would be perfect for any senior role with the UN, it being the most dishonest organization on earth and her, well, a perfect match…let her go..please…naturally she would soon rake in millions into secret bank accounts like the rest of them at the UN….

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  27. grumpyoldhori (2,362 comments) says:

    Yep agree with David on this one, Clark was off her game 2005-2008.
    The UN utterly useless, I hope like hell we never ever need them then.
    Oh, question, if Clark’s husband is fair game does that put Key’s wife in the same position ?
    Are ALL family members of politicians fair targets now ?

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  28. dad4justice (8,219 comments) says:

    I am starting to like you grumpyoldhori more and more. Splendid question Sir.

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  29. kiwipolemicist (393 comments) says:

    After the election I told a friend that I thought that Clark would get a job in the Comintern/UN: not a hard call to make I admit.

    To me the pre 2005 Helen Clark is different to the post 2005 Clark….I saw a disturbing commitment to the ends justify the means, which is a slippery slope.

    There was no change in her commitment to “the end justifies the means” because Herr Helen is a fundamentalist Marxist and such follows the words of Trotsky in Their Morals and Ours: “A means can be justified only by its end.” That is pure moral relativism and a justification for any evil.

    What *did* change was that Helen let her commitment to that ethic become more visible. I suspect that the power corrupted her and she let more of her true style show. To put it another way, she dropped whatever pretence at being nice she had made in 1999-2005.

    The NZ Govt is in no way accountable to the citizens, is most likely illegitimate (according to a body of constitutional lawyers), is not obliged to hold elections, and has absolute power over the citizens which is backed by a monopoly of force. Last year I thought it extremely unlikely but not impossible that Clark would cancel the elections, given that she was acting in such a dictatorial manner. If that had happened we would have had no recourse short of a coup d’etat.

    I have briefly discussed the words of Trotsky here:
    http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/never-trust-a-marxist/

    As I said here yesterday, there is a huge difference between the styles of Key & Clark. What will Key be like if he gets a third term?

    http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2009/02/06/john-keys-response-to-his-broken-arm-says-a-lot/

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  30. vibenna (305 comments) says:

    Big Bruv said “the left are quick to try and claim the moral high ground when it suits them and just as quick to revert to their muck raking, nasty and vicious ways when it does not.”

    Hahahahahahaha. Looked the mirror recently Big Bruv?

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  31. Viking2 (11,467 comments) says:

    It was the menopause you dumb fellows. Does that to women and pseudo women.
    Still doesn’t absolve her of the dishonest things that she did and the way in which she treated us her paymasters.
    Find it interesting that now somehow Don Brash is to blame for putting her off her stride. Maybe a fixation on her part. Really do you all expect anyone with a brain to believe that. Oh maybe the Liarbors and their lickspittles.
    Its time Helen was set free into the world to do her own thing and have a go at earning her own living without the help of the state. It would bring out the best in her, what with a bit of Viking heritage she may even succeed.
    Muldoon was treated to a back seat and that’s what Helen should get. Both were as bad as one another and to have the National Socialists back her is a good reason for them to be moved on.
    Clearly is this bleeding heart bullshit keeps up we will have all sorts of lickspittles being given comfy jobs. Who is next? eh Winston, Williams , Cullen, Wilson (already got one, Maharey(again already got one), Mallard, H2, Dyson, the Teddy Bear, the list goes on.
    Harden up We won they lost. (Seem to remember someone else said that!)

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  32. Viking2 (11,467 comments) says:

    Why should the Nats. give a prime post to their competitors when the probably have someone in their own ranks who would benefit the job?

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  33. big bruv (13,886 comments) says:

    Hahahahahahaha. Looked the mirror recently Big Bruv?

    Yep… the reflection is gorgeous!

    Your point was???

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  34. wikiriwhis business (3,996 comments) says:

    Should come as no surprise the UN wants positions filled by more communists.

    I should think it hard to find any right of centre people of philosophy in any high UN position. In fact I have only seen the communist politicians from NZ attain internationally at all. Roger Douglas, Jonothan Hunt, Mike Moore to name several.

    Where are the capitalists in all this eh Baiter?

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  35. dimmocrazy (286 comments) says:

    Frankly, DPF, I can’t remember that you have ever written such abject nonsense. The question is not whether Clark is the sufficiently skillfull manipulator and schemer, the question is whether NZ should actively promote such a person to be representative of the values of this very country. Given the large and clear voice of the people at the last election saying “enough of this women is enough”, we should collectively (and that is the role of the government in this situation), refuse to even offer her up for the position, let alone actively seek to support her. She should be left to serve the people of her electorate in the role she herself put herself forward for, that of a MP.

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  36. lloydois (209 comments) says:

    What a sorry tawdry unrespresentative swill of pig ignorant self opinionated morons. But then big bruv seems to be the generic kiwiblog commentator so no surprise at all.

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  37. adam2314 (377 comments) says:

    ” Should come as no surprise the UN wants positions filled by more communists. ”

    It is my understanding that the UN Charter was originally drawn up by two leading communist.

    Must dig back on this .

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  38. David Baigent (172 comments) says:

    Helen Clark may well have become a worthy candidate for the post of Administrator of the UN Development Programme up until some time in 2005.

    But now she may do harm to the reputation of NZ political behaviour, looking a short distance back AND into the future.

    The change in her behaviour may have started when she announced “WHAT EVER IT TAKES ” and meant it, but the reality is that her own confidence in her ability to dominate others failed and that started a malignancy that has no denial, let alone any cure.

    When the “sun did not rise in the morning” after the last election, and she suffered the avoidance by formerly reliable supporters, all chance of rehab was lost.

    Best be “unavailable” when comment is called for.

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  39. wikiriwhis business (3,996 comments) says:

    “…she suffered the avoidance by formerly reliable supporters, all chance of rehab was lost.”

    Wow,, even Helen got the cold shoulder. sobering thought.

    I thought she was the epitome of Liarbour to the stalwards. How naieve of me I’m sure.

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  40. Viking2 (11,467 comments) says:

    Remeber this little quote form Dr who?

    “This is a contest about power in New Zealand and who can be the best government for New Zealanders and he’s going to have to get used to the fact he’s playing with the big boys now.”

    — Michael Cullen

    NZ Herald, 15 April 2008

    another good reason why the Nats should harden up and tell Helen to sling her hook.

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  41. wikiriwhis business (3,996 comments) says:

    “another good reason why the Nats should harden up and tell Helen to sling her hook.”

    Isn’t your quote a tad belated?

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  42. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    Rich to see Klark’s cheer squad whining so bitterly over some of the criticism of the career cronyist Klark when for eight years they’ve attacked and smeared George Bush, a brave and good family man, with every vile epithet and false accusation they could think of. Stinking leftist hypocrites.

    With her pro-terrorist anti-Israel views, she’d fit right in with that gang of barbaric totalitarian dictators and crooked politicians called the UN and provide yet one more reason why that out dated edifice should be shut down for ever.

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  43. mickysavage (786 comments) says:

    David Baigent

    You are talking a load of ****. If Helen wanted to stay as the Leader of the Labour Party she would have received overwhelming support. And after a year or so of the current incompetence Kiwis will yearn for her return.

    The rest of you obsess because she was in a speeding car, she signed her signature to help a school fundraiser, she helped gay couples organise their legal affairs and tried to reduce domestic violence by stopping parents brutalising their kids. And she created jobs, grew the economy and made New Zealand a fairer and more tolerant place.

    Some of the rants I have read on this page suggests that the writers need professional help, such is their removal from reality…

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  44. wikiriwhis business (3,996 comments) says:

    “and tried to reduce domestic violence by stopping parents brutalising their kids.”

    Utter crap……. pure left hyperpole, misinformation and propaganda!!!!!

    Parents are NOT brutalising their children.

    Unwed teen couples and freako solo’s taken home utter bums who destroy lives are the real culprits.

    There are enough assault laws to punish offenders. you already go to jail for hurting children you insidious snake in the grass commy pinko!!

    You’ll be telling us primary children need to be indoctinated in the gay lifestyle next!

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  45. Buggerlugs (1,592 comments) says:

    “Grew the economy”?

    Oh fuck off.

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  46. calendar girl (1,232 comments) says:

    ” … and tried to reduce domestic violence by stopping parents brutalising their kids.”

    mickeysavage: The overwhelming majority of NZ parents were not “brutalising” their children by smacking them for the purpose of correction – and you know it. You to talk of others’ “rants” on this page, but readers can make their own judgments about the worth of your views when you deliberately misrepresent facts in this fashion.

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  47. Banana Llama (1,043 comments) says:

    Sure why not, she would do well being an Administrator at the UN in all honesty and we would be shielded from any of the disasters that could occur given it’s increasing irrelevance in world affairs.

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  48. fourmi (1 comment) says:

    Why would the US back another socialist for the UN? And one that didn’t lose a single ocassion to express her feelings towards them in public and in the House? And what exactly record of good management (other than party political) she can show? UN is still trying to recover after Annan, now they’ll have Helen, I guess Chavez has a job to go too when he’s finished. What is it, the new Socialist International?

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  49. getstaffed (9,186 comments) says:

    and tried to reduce domestic violence by stopping parents brutalising their kids. And she created jobs, grew the economy and made New Zealand a fairer and more tolerant place.

    An unusually strong batch tonight mickey? Don’t get behind the wheel there’s a good lad.

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  50. MajorBloodnok (361 comments) says:

    “grew the economy”

    Correction: grew the government. Not the same thing.

    “made New Zealand a fairer and more tolerant place”

    Ha! Where is the tolerance from Helen Clark, Labour (and the Greens) for those who choose tungsten light bulbs over mercury light bulbs? Where is the tolerance for those who don’t believe in global warming, those who are Exclusive Brethren, those who vote for National or ACT, those who disagreed with Labour’s decisions on Pledge Card funding from taxpayer funds, those who attend Destiny Church, those who opposed the Electoral Finance Act…?

    “Intolerance” is a accusation made by one group against people they can’t tolerate.

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  51. reid (16,447 comments) says:

    Helen’s candidacy depends more I think on her globalist qualifications that any conservative-left dynamic. The UN runs on globalist rules which are quite different from conservative-liberal democratic dynamics.

    In terms of being a good globalist, the social engineering she did counts for a great deal, they pay a lot of attention to that. Also her adherence to the climate change religion is critical. As I said at the time it was being passed under urgency before she lost, the ETS legislation wasn’t good for the nation but it was good for her chances at a job like this.

    So in the region she’s probably got Rudd and most of the Islands. She’s probably also got China, that counts for a lot since it has regional influence too – all through SE Asia. She’s probably got Brown too – through her close Blair connection. Maybe that’s partly why she went to visit Marion in the UK after she lost. That also counts for a lot.

    She may or may not have the US, but I think knowing her she would have done the numbers and would not have allowed the campaign to begin if she didn’t have a plan for dealing with them, even if they didn’t come on board.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if she will try to sew India up by trading on Lange’s connections there. That leaves Europe, Central Asia, Africa and the ME. Blair will help her with Europe, especially if he becomes EU President.

    Hmmm.

    Personally I don’t mind at all if she gets this or some other UN job. What else is she going to do – she’s too young to retire and even her enemies have to admit she’s a formidable talent. She does have the right skill set although I agree with DPF that her judgement deserted her in the last term. I wonder if it was because a critical someone she relied on, left or became unavailable to help her. How else do you explain it? If the good judgement she displayed in the first two terms was entirely her own, then she still would have had it in her to make at least a few good decisions – instead almost every critical political decision she made was bad and to many of us this was obvious at the time it was made and this is not just a 20/20 hindsight critique.

    So, who could that someone be? Obviously, not H2. Obviously not anyone on her staff. One person who could have been her close adviser in those first two terms, was Blair or alternatively, some strategic player in the UK political structure who had the time and the skills to give her the advice during those terms. She modeled Liarbore on New Labour. Blair and her were and are great mates. They were very close, indeed. He could have easily either done it himself, or put her in touch with the same people who helped him to develop his New Labour policies and that would not be at all unusual. Such a person would obviously be a political appointment not a govt one, and that would explain why they had to leave when Blair left and were therefore unavailable during most of the third term.

    I know it’s a theory, but if you want to argue that it’s b.s. which it may well be, then come up with a better one.

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  52. NX (504 comments) says:

    Helen’s handling of Brash’s stolen emails was so despicable, so partisan & self-serving that I’ve never forgiven her.

    The way she treated Dr Brash was disgusting i.e. the airing of his affair and her nasty comments….

    The image of Clark & Cullen ‘haw ‘haw’ laughing @ Brash got my political blood boiling like no other.

    So for those reasons I don’t support her.

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  53. Glutaemus Maximus (2,207 comments) says:

    I believe that she should have to account for her overt corruption in league with Winston Peters.

    Arrest, Inquiry, and Court please.

    Savage, they must be very good drugs. Why do you bother appearing on here to post such obvious garbage?

    Helen promised to get NZ into what part of the OECD league table, and where did we end up? So is that better or worse, and how does that relate to growing an economy in the most benign commercial conditions in living memory.

    Yes, the economy grew like every other developed countries. Despite her Election promises NZ slipped down the table. Or do you no understand basic maths Micky Take?

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  54. kiwi in america (2,449 comments) says:

    David
    I actually see where you are coming from much as I despise Clark. There has been a long tradition of bi-partisan support for prominent Kiwis being supported in their quest for international positions. Shipley strongly supported Mike Moore in his quest to become WTO SG to the extent that NZ Embassy staff the world over were encouraged to open the doors for Moore. Clark reciprocated when Labour supported Don McKinnon to the Commonwealth Secretariat position and there would be no love lost between those two.

    Clark definitely lost her mojo post 2005. Brash’s post Orewa speech poll surge (that barring 15,000 Polynesian voters in South Auckland almost got him the premiership) spooked H1 and H2 and it led to a series of poll driven flip flops. Clark relied on ruthless internal discipline and a water carrying media to cover her butt. Her unprescedented access to a chosen few became a tool she used relentlessly to peddle Labour’s line to good effect and the absence of any substantive right wing media equivalent as exists in the US and UK helped her immensely. She was undone by her failure to truly understand middle NZ families and what drives them because she isn’t from that class – her world was filled with chardonnay sipping, late drinking university lecturer uber liberals and childless gays who were nurtured in the radical feminist and anti-war movements of the 60’s and 70’s. Her true inner circle, the people whom she really trusted, were fellow travellers who could not see how a law banning smacking would be so unpopular or how her nanny state interventions would hasten the turning of the worm. Her failure to deal with Field, Pope and Peters was more a case of of avoiding MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) as the latter two had enough dirt on Helen to really make her life more miserable than what her inner circle perceived to be the short term poll hits they would take by not dealing with them as ruthlessly as she’d dealt with previous Cabinet miscreants.

    The one that really baffled me was the pledge card and that was as much Cullen’s hubris as Clark’s – a sense of entitlement and the age old socialist internal voice in their heads that tells them that their cause is so righteous that normal rules can be broken to keep the hated tories out.

    As for the UN – well she would be like a pig in mud there. If she isn’t appointed they will appoint another similarly compromised Statist, anti-family, anti-Israel radical socialist feminist person in her place who will do no more or less damage than Clark would do. Whilst part of me would not wish her the chauffeur driven limos, the constant first class travel and the wise older statesman chats with a syncophantic local media on her visits to NZ, the other part says kick her upstairs and out of NZ so that we can all draw a line under her premiership.

    We should content ourselves that her defeat has limited the heights she might reach on the international stage – imagine her status had she won a 4th term and chosen to resign the leadership on a high note sometime in mid 2010.

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  55. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,752 comments) says:

    Sounds like John Key has a real test ahead of him.

    If he supports his new best friend forever, Helen Clark, then will lose political support and votes in 2011.

    If he doesn’t support Helen Clark’s pursuit of a new job then he will have done the right thing and shown a depth of character he has so far failured to demostrate.

    Still, you have to admire a man who chooses to piss off his core supporters and go through a recession with all of Labour’s failed economic policies intact and then expect to get re-elected in 2011.

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  56. expat (4,050 comments) says:

    Move along, nothing to see.

    Anyway, why not HEC for UN? She would probably do a great job, raise NZ’s international profile at a diplomatic level and remove Labours prime motivator.

    It’s win win really, yah?!

    I see Lyn “black helicopter, moon landing denier conspiracy theorist” Prentice at the substandard is bigging up his close personal contact with Helen (aka I text’d to confirm the UN position, twat) and suggesting that the Waitangi Fracas was just a ‘Nact’ media setup.

    LOL.

    Labour (and I include the sysop dweeb in that group) just hate being irrelevant.

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  57. Camryn (543 comments) says:

    The UN is where the politicians of the world dump their enemies, threats, used up hacks and dangerous idiots. Why should NZ not do the same?

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  58. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,752 comments) says:

    I for one look forward to Helen Clark not getting this job. It will be more egg on her face to go with that election defeat on 8 November 2008. :lol:

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  59. wikiriwhis business (3,996 comments) says:

    “Still, you have to admire a man who chooses to piss off his core supporters and go through a recession with all of Labour’s failed economic policies intact and then expect to get re-elected in 2011.”

    This paragraph alone is a sound case for consxiracy .

    (Tried not to get demerited for spelling a profane word in its fullness on this site)

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  60. Glutaemus Maximus (2,207 comments) says:

    I actually think Winston is much better suited for a UN job.

    There are Horse Racing Circuits, and Boxing Rings all over the world.

    Scampi and Fish Quotas to monitor.

    I could go on all Night.

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  61. LUCY (359 comments) says:

    Glutaemus Maximus (1234) Vote: 9 0 Says:

    February 8th, 2009 at 5:08 am
    “I believe that she should have to account for her overt corruption in league with Winston Peters.

    Arrest, Inquiry, and Court please.”

    Although I think the UN and Klark are well suited to each other, I also believe that National must pursue and prosecute those that are guilty of corruption or illegal practises under the Labour government. If not National will be seen to be in the politians club of nil accountability and just as bad as the other lot and any trust they have gained from the public will dissappear

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  62. freethinker (691 comments) says:

    From the comments so far it seems David is out of sync with the majority of comment, but he is entitled to that opinion even though he may be wrong.

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  63. kiwipolemicist (393 comments) says:

    Govt press release today says that they strongly support Helen’s candidacy.

    Part of the UNDP’s work is developing “democratic governance”, so Herr Helen is clearly unqualified for the job and should immediately make it clear that she’s declining the candidacy.

    Sending Helen to the UN makes the French exports of nuclear waste look pretty tame.

    http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2009/02/08/nz-govt-supports-helen-clark-for-united-nations-role/

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  64. KiwiGreg (3,255 comments) says:

    Cant stand her.

    But better the devil you know etc etc. I doubt Clark would be any WORSE in the job than any other appointee.

    While I dont have direct personal experience of the UN, I do of the World Bank/IMF and a couple of others and they are full of country-appointed sinecures.

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  65. Glutaemus Maximus (2,207 comments) says:

    Politicians will be competing with Bankers, and Estate Agents for most reviled occupations.

    Unless National take a view, that to look stringently at the know misdemeanors of the previous administration, then they will set the Culture for abuses going forward.

    Sleaze will become the accepted Norm, and the Franchise does not deserve to see the elected representatives behaving shabbily without consequences.

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  66. big bruv (13,886 comments) says:

    I watched with amazement an interview on Breakfast TV this morning between Key and Paul Henry, Henry asked Key directly if he was going to spend any money (tax payer money) lobbying for the appointment of Klark to the UN.

    Key’s answer was “if we need to spend it we will”, Henry pushed for an amount and eventually Key admitted he would spend “a few hundred thousand” of MY FUCKING TAX DOLLARS getting this corrupt idiot a job at the UN.

    Klark has stolen enough money from me over the last 15 years, she has no right to expect me and all the other tax payers in NZ to spend our money getting her a bloody job.

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  67. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,752 comments) says:

    Spending taxpayer money on Helen Clark now really is throwing good money after bad.

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