Complainant #2
June 14th, 2009 at 11:39 am by David FarrarJonathan Marshall reports on Complainant #2:
The Korean businesswoman whose sexual allegation against disgraced ex-MP Richard Worth is being investigated by police was herself charged with a serious criminal offence, but was not convicted, and it is claimed she has a string of creditors chasing her for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
The details are:
The woman has been in trouble with the law herself. In October 2005 she appeared in Waitakere District Court charged with assault with intent to injure, but the case did not go to trial because the alleged victim did not turn up for a depositions hearing.
Assault with intent to injure is getting up to the serious end. I wonder what the details were.
More recently the woman and her business partner have been pursued by several creditors to whom it is alleged they owe thousands of dollars. A company owned by the pair has been placed into liquidation owing $245,000, although the liquidator expected that amount to climb.
A private investigator, who asked not to be named, confirmed finding the woman had been “terribly difficult”.
The private investigation firm had wanted to serve court documents on the woman relating to mortgage non-payment to the Bank of New Zealand for four homes, each valued at around $600,000.
That is a lot of money – $2.4 million. Not sure any of this directly is relevant to the allegations against Richard Worth, but it does tend to impact on credibility.
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June 14th, 2009 at 11:51 am
No, none of it is directly relevant, but then smear never is.
And I am surprised you should be shocked that someone could amass assets worth 2.4 million, isn’t that the point of a free economy? Or are you conflating the assetts and assuming that is the debt?
[DPF: Her debts and liquidation are a matter of public record. They are not an unproven allegation. You seem to not know what a smear is except to be something you approve of when against people you don't like]
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Talking of smears, billyborker, you and your left wing mates are pretty good at throwing these around. In fact the Left has revelled in these dirty tactics since the days when Clark became leader.
It will be interesting to see whether the police proceed against Worth. If not, it will suggest there have been more back stabbings, smears, innuendo, media manipulations, and general scumbag tactics from Labour. What bloody trash!
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Jack, tell me again who abandoned Worth and said no matter what the outcome he was out? When did jonkey join Labour?
Stop blaming Labour for National’s ills and look to your own disfunctional leader.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Labour has committed character assassination of National MPs from Brash to Worth. The fact that billyborker blames National for Labour’s gutter tactics is yet another demonstration that Labour is a party dominated by political psychopaths. These scheming, smearing activists are incapable of moral behaviour. Their crippled personalities bar them from having the consciences that normal human beings have, and that decent humans heed.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Well doesn’t labour just attact the most savory of people.
Fraudsters, theives, punchy bastards, liars, billyborker.
Not a party you would take home to meet your parents.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Correct me if I’m wrong, but of the two complaints against worth, both have been made by people with connections to criminal dealings, is that correct?
My BSc(Hons) in mathematics tells me that that is, in fact, a 100% correlation between the variables “Has laid allegations against a (former) government minister” and “is a pretty shady character”.
For those who aren’t inclined toward mathematical analysis, 100% is quite high as percentages go.
What I really don’t understand, and may need one of you ‘political science’ (lol) types to explain to me, is why Goff and the LPDDTL (Labour Party Department of Dirty Tricks and Lies) didn’t drum up some less criminally involved complainants?
I mean, we all knew this was just labour party shit stirring from the beginning, but I have to confess that I didn’t anticipate just what a mighty balls-up this would become on Goff’s part.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Worth’s crime seems to be the type of women he associated with. He displayed poor judgement in having anything to do with the Indian knowing she was from Liabour. That qualified him to be deprived of his important portfolios as I see it.How much he knew about the Korean is unclear.
BILLY BORKER:::::::::It is how you amass the assets that matter. If you do so by swindling your desperate countrymen out of their money by falsely promising to assist them through the Immigration system then you are a Socialist in drag fit only for membership of the Liabour Party.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Murray, you forgot gays and lesbians.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Assault with intent to injure is the step above common assault.
In the basic hierarchy of assaults, more serious than it are:
Assault with a weapon;
Vote:Injuring with reckless disregard for the safety of others;
Injuring with intent to injure;
Wounding with reckless disregard;
Wounding with intent to injure;
Injuring with intent to wound;
Wounding with intent to wound; and
Attempted murder.
June 14th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Well well well, goff is yet again seen to be a liar & charlatan, by stumping up another crook as a paragon of society, but taken advantage of by that nasty National party member.
Vote:I can see who the borker tries to emulate, and where it gets it’s lessons from.
June 14th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Christopher even in the labour party, people tend not to get involve in the actual really dirty stuff, preferring to orchestrate it from afar. Creating plausible deniability. For the really dirty stuff you need people with no compunction at all. Usually you find those in the criminal circles or those who have fallen foul of the law.
There are of course exceptions to this. Mikey and his melbourne trip is one, Winston and his offers of positions for cash is another. Field and the use of slave labour a third. The list is seemingly endless.
The problem comes when you have people of a lesser ability like Goff and Mallard trying to run these things. They get too close and gets splattered with the fall out.
Say about Helen what you want, and I have said plenty about her, but the woman was a master at manipulating the media and others away from putting the blame at her feet. Even when the painting scandal blew up, most of the blame ended with her aide and her aide’s husband for buying the paintings and burning them. Now that is how you deflect blame!
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Paul, I do not consider either to be unsavory. And indeed one group even more not unsavory than the other as a matter of personal taste.
Although I do have concerns that the labour party does number amongst its supporters “gay rights” activists who cruise the social netwroking sites of National Party members teenage sons searching out their percieved sexual predudices. That would fall into the unsavory basket by my reckoning.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
It is all quite simple –
IF Worth hadn’t done anything wrong there would have been no story.
IF Worth was innocent, Labour would have looked stupid and Worth would still be a minister.
The whole fiasco began and ended with Worth. Keep that in mind and the rest is just light and sound; the only substance in this story is what WORTH did.
[DPF: Not at all. Goff's actions with the other complainant are a legitimate matter to scrutinise]
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
“Well doesn’t labour just attact the most savory of people.”
Vote:Yes Muzz, birds of a feather flock together.
June 14th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Billy, it’s time for you to go and get borked, old chap.
Your little short arsed gap toothed mate has succeeded in revealing himself to the voting public (who are not as silly as you people think) as a shabby, dirty little man who has the added attribute of being incompetent.
Let’s face it, he had the whole deal handed to him on a plate and he stuffed it up.
I wouldn’t want him running the shit house block at a sewerage farm, let alone a country.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Adolf, FACT remains, only Worth is being investigated for criminal offences. Only Worth has been sacked. Only Worth has quit parliament. Only Worth caused the story. Nothing else, just Worth.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Ha ha the borker has no gas left in it’s tank, thats what happens when your beloved OPPOSITION liarbour party head honcho shoots himself in the foot eh borker?
Vote:putt putt putt putter out, of rational argument.
June 14th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
The message for anyone in power and/or with wealth is grow some EQ to match your ambitions.. otherwise you’ll become part of a time honoured tradition of being sprung by this kind of honeytrap. As unfair as it may be, Worth is learning the hard way.
oh, and borker, I hope your Labour paymasters are obliging you with double time over the weekend… or are you so full of spite that you post your keyboard-delivered venom here free of charge?
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Bok:
Yeah, I think you’re right about Helen. Credit where credit’s due, she was a remarkably sneaky bitch when it came to deflecting well-deserved blame for the latest Labour Party cockup/unjustified smear/criminal-but-later-to-be-legalised offence.
I’m not sure about Goff. I used to think he was alright for a lefty, back when he was marginalised by Helen and the Feminazis, but now he just looks more and more like the same sort of statist fuckhole that Labour have been trotting out for generations.
I mean, what the fuck does he think the point of being in opposition is? If I were in opposition, I’d spend most of my time trying to ferrit out government cockups and corruption (of which there is bound to be some – it is a government, after all) rather than beating up / inventing faerie tales in a pathetic attempt to establish myself as some kind of political brand.
Most people will respect an opposition party that genuinely holds the government to account, but all I’ve seen from Labour is the same old bullshit they’ve always used to try and pull the wool over the eyes of the apathetic proletariat.
Then again, I suppose this does make sense in a way. You see, I reckon you have to have a special sort of mind to accept left wing policies. Shit like, “A minimum wage is good for workers” requires a special kind of double-think; a certain willingness to abandon logic, reason and fairness for the sake of power, yet at the same time believing that logic, reason and fairness are actually on your side.
So I suppose that if a left-wing opposition party were to start acting rationally and honestly, they wouldn’t really be left wing anymore, would they?
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
“Adolf, FACT remains, only Worth is being investigated for criminal offences. Only Worth has been sacked. Only Worth has quit parliament. Only Worth caused the story. Nothing else, just Worth.”
YET !!!
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
And now billy bonkers is trying to define what we may or not may pay attention to. Hey DPF are billy and Trevor posting from the same ip address or what?
According to billy an accusation is proof of gilt, so just everybody shut up so there! Ranks right up their with Mallards snide little accusations coming to nothing. You dipshit lefties seem to think that just making shit is the height of political skill.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Ah well.. it’s a lovely day here in the bay, I am off for a stroll in the Kaimais, and think lovely satisfied thoughts of a liar who has been sprung.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
billyborker at 12 .42:”…Only Worth caused the story. Nothing else, just Worth.”
If, as appears increasingly likely by the hour, this all proves to be a Labour set-up, then Worth, regardless of any moral vulnerability he may or may not have, could emerge as the victim.
And looking again at Labour’s Dirty Tricks Department: this cabal doesn’t shrink from putting the stiletto into allies and even Labour stalwarts. Think of Tariana Turia’s photographic ambush in the ministerial car as she left Parliament. Think of the shabby treatment the party gave to Dover Samuels.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
No, muzza, *I* have never equated accusation with guilt, jonkey did that.
I belive, like every citizen, Worth is entitled to his day in court. But jonkey has made that so much harder for him. When the PM says your guilty … Well, how much fo a fair trial then?
But back to the point – there would be NO story if it wasn’t for the things Worth did, the things he has chosen to resign from parliament over.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
One thing that I’ve always wondered – everyone has assumed Worth instigated the invite for coffee – this may not be true. Given that the communication was definitely going both ways – it could well have been instigated by Choudary. Regardless, Worth is guilty of being a stupid git and I most certainly wouldn’t want to be married to him. It has to be said that he was obviously an easy target for the Labour muck rakers and it will be interesting to see if the Korean lady/person was indeed part of a larger sting.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Jack, if Worth resigned over a set up, what does that say about his suitability to be an MP, let alone a Minister.
Would YOU resign over a set up?
I wouldn’t.
Would jonkey abandon him over a set up?
I wouldn’t.
The story begins and ends with Worth.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Premise 1 Billy bonkers: “If Worth haddn’t done anything wrong there would be no story”.
Premise 2 Billy bonkers: *I* have never equated accusation with gilt”
Observation: Worth has not even been charged with anything he has only been accused and premise 1 and premise 2 are mutually exclusive.
Conclusion: Billy bonkers is a lying sack of crap.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
I beg to differ, Mr Borker.
It is abundantly clear that this story began somewhere within the Labour Party.
Where exactly? That, I leave to Whaleoil.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Premise 1 is correct – if Worth hadn’t done anything wrong, there’s be writs a flying. Why aren’t there? If Worth hadn’t done anything wrong, jonkey wouldn’t have dumpled him like a hot potato. Why did he? If Worth hadn’t done anything wrong, he wouldn’t have resigned. Why did he?
Now, premise 2 is also correct – I have never equated accusation with guilt, I am simply pointing out nthat others, such as jonkey and Worth have.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Re billyborker at 12.56…
Whether Worth was pushed or whether he jumped is not the relevant point.
The relevant point is that emerging facts suggest Worth was set up by not one, but by two Labour plants.
Has Labour recruited some old KGB agents? Were the two women in fact North Koreans? Never walk near a Labour MP whose carrying an umbrella might be good advice to anyone around Parliament Buildings.
Nah, the real Reds would never have been so clumsy.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
No, Jack, the relevant point is still about Worth.
HE resigned from parliament.
HE was dumped on by Key.
The only question is Why?
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Billyborker (1.08)
Because he was set up by Labour psychopaths.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
IF worth was set up, what does that say about jonkey and his response?
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
What are the chances of hitting on two random women that are deeply involved in serious fraud allegations?
Vote:At a wild guess I would say conservatively 1 in 10,000 (I would appreciate it if someone had some more accurate figures) women are involved in fraud
10,000 squared in 100,000,000
So there is a roughly 1 in 100,000,000 chance this is not a Labour Party set up
June 14th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
…and Borker, it’s spelt “John Key”.
Either you are a moron and can neither spell “John” nor find the space bar (it’s the big long one at the bottom of the keyboard), or
You think some sort of name calling (jonkey = donkey) is cool, in which case you have the mentality and maturity of an infant, but at least that way you wont be a moron.
You chose.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
There is roughly a one in one chance that Worth resigned.
There is roughly a one in one chance that jonkey dumped on Worth.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
..keep pushing shit up hill borker ya loser…
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Christopher’s comment at 12.47 deserves repeating as it is so succinct and important.
Vote:IF A LEFT WING OPPOSITION PARTY WERE TO START ACTING RATIONALLY AND HONESTLY
June 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Christopher’s comment at 12.47 deserves repeating as it is so succinct and important.
Vote:IF A LEFT WING OPPOSITION PARTY WERE TO START ACTING RATIONALLY AND HONESTLY, THEY WOULDN’T REALLY BE LEFT WING ANY MORE.
His comments sum up the Goff regime in one sentence.
June 14th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Borker
I realise that this is too much to bear for you. but in the interest of your sanity, I’ll try to explain.
National is running a country that has been damn near fatally wounded by the outgoing government.
They destroyed the surpluses and the gains that could have been the heritage for this and the next generation. (still with me?)
The National government has brought together Maori and Europeans like never before, in a power share situation and with a look to the future (So far so good)
However the economic climate and the problems left by an outgoing labour government, means that there is no time for distractions. No matter how well they are going at present.
A bit like say rugby. There is a test and Carter is the best number 10 in the world and part of the team. However the point is to win the test (I realise that this does not include the all blacks as they persist with Henry) anyway. Just because Carter is one of the team, when he twists his ankle and cannot run, we dont leave him on the field, we sub him. take him off. Send him to the side line. or if Richie keeps dropping the ball, he get’s subbed. Simple, not so?
the point is Key reacted fast and decisively to keep the rest from being distracted or hindered by a player not up to the game at present.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Bok, I’ll keep it simple for you.
Worth was not subbed off, he was dumped. And he will not be back. jonkey made that quite clear.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Key’s gripes with Worth go back a ways. However, he could have chosen a more judicious time to squeeze Worth.
Nevertheless, the centre of the Worth imbroglio now is that Worth, vulnerable or not, was set up in a dirty tricks sting that is backfiring on Labour. The squirming lefties are already trying to divert attention on to Key. Won’t work “comrades”.
The rights or wrongs and timings of Key’s action will be judged on another day, when the Brash email thefts are either solved or officially abandoned.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
There is no defending anyone in this matter. It is symptomatic of the provincial, small-minded NZ political mindset. It is all about playing the man, not the ball, and trying desperately to paint all opposition as liars, and hyprocrites and deviants so that we never need to worry our pretty little heads about what actually matters in this country – vision, action, ideas, improving our lot. Both sides are guilty of it, and it is sadly hilarious that arguments usually devolve to inane accusations about who does it the most. Four year olds have more intricate, intelligently worded disagreements over sand pit usage than most NZ adults manage over something as simple as the budget.
Worth is gone. Goff should have shut the hell up and let it play. Instead, he – raised as he has been in this gutter political environment – saw it as a prime opportunity to get some kicks in against character in the opposition, turned off his brain (assuming he has one) and played nudge-nudge-wink-wink with the camera, and came across as pathetic and faintly odious. Now we have all the National supporters doing their damndest to paint two women making the allegations as liars, hyprocrites, deviants. Next up: Labour to hunt out who accused the Korean woman of assault and discover THEY have outstanding parking fines and once had sex in a public bathroom with their best mate’s partner. National then hunts down the best friend’s partner and fins out they were once part of a student association and drive a red car, which means they are communist and it was all a great big honey trap.
And our country slowly gurgles its way down the drain.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Borker how does that make a difference?
Vote:He was gotten rid of because he caused a distraction. Right now that is not needed.
June 14th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Re Billyborker at 1.54…
Worth is leaving on better terms with National than the terms poor old Dover Samuels retired from Labour on.
A growing number of former Labour MPs from Moore to Samuels must be disgusted at the decline of Labour from a party that stood up for working people and their families and Maori generally into a party that represents, well what? Apart from white collar teachers and lecturers, minor civil servants, union officials, social workers, minority-gender activists, fossil socialists, extreme feminists, internationalist utopians, and multiculturist ideologists, Labour represents bugger all else.
No wonder Labour’s been so heavily infiltrated by political activist psychopaths indulging in intrigues so nasty that average Kiwis are going to have trouble accepting they occurred.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
And you know what borker – good job that John Key (to use his proper name, unlike your childish style) made it clear that certain standards are maintained. Had Helen Clark imposed similar standards on the Labour caucus between 1999 and 2008, we might not be in the situation that we are today. Misleading Parliament, misleading the party leadership, criminal offending and offensive behaviour were all condoned by Labour, by virtue of Clark’s refusal to take a stand against members of her caucus. The net result of that was an overwhelming rejection of Labour last year, because the average voter was sick and tired of all the double standards.
Sure, Richard Worth may never be found guilty of any criminal activity. But the gaffes that he had committed over National’s first six months in power had mounted up to an unacceptable level. He may only be guilty of gross stupidity. Then again, Taito Phillip Field, currently on trial for corruption as a Labour MP was, apparently, only ever guilty of trying to help his constituents.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
The other thing is, we don’t know what other information John Key may have about the behaviour of Worth. He may not have done anything criminally wrong. However, there may be things he has done that were sufficiently serious to warrant the action that Key took. The reason that Key is refusing to talk about it seems to be to do with not prejudicing any possible proceedings that Worth may face. He has implied this when he said he won’t be releasing the information while the police are considering the case. All Key seems to be trying to do is to ensure that Worth is treated fairly by the justice system. What is wrong with that?
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Actually, Key has done exactly the right thing. He shouldn’t be talking about it. He acted, and now he’s concentrating on other things (hopefully). No need to feed the publics Woman’s Day gossip fetish. I’ve never bought the whole “If he’s not saying anything, he must have something to hide” bullshit when it comes to politicians. Sometimes, the best politicians know when saying things is simply a waste of time and energy, and have confidence that it will all come out in the wash. Certainly stands in stark contrast to the giddy drip-drop information leak from Goff.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
I think the real rationale of all this hyped nonsense about the bright but tired Worth, is that Labour 1st are trying to deflect time and energy away from their prior transgressions.
There is a whole load of weird stuff to surface about HBDHB, about Winston’s grubby quotas, and connections, about the bigger than Australia donations to UNDP.
FFS, this could take the rest of the day!
And last but not least, the sudden reality that associating with fraudsters, or those married to fraudsters is going to really backfire.
As an aside what happened to the thieving Labourites that stole all that alcohol?
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
And when is Peter Dunne going to pay back the money he stole?
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Bonker’s consistent IT’S ALL ABOUT WORTH IT’S ALL ABOUT WORTH PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE STRIKINGLY ATTRACTIVE INDIAN WOMAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN leads me to suspect that there’s some foul play afoot and Liarbore wants to cover its tracks in the most blatant way possible. Oh, and it’s The Honourable Prime Minister John Key to you, Bonkers.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Yes, hurf derf, I am a labour party apparatchick and I control everything labour do and I personally set out to destroy jonkey and undermined Mellee’s election campaign by writing her notes for how to respond to questions about low wages and motorways.
a hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I love being the evil manipulator behind the curtains.
Now, hurry up and bring me another curry. chop chop.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Did I say that, Bonkers? It’s more like you’re one of the merry lemmings dancing along to the Pied Goof’s pipe over the cliff, if you would pardon my mixed metaphor. But keep on regurgitating those Labour lines, it doesn’t make you look any less ridiculous than you usually do.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Sorry, durf, i’m not one of Goff’s team, I am independent.
Anyway, back to the message – Its all about Worth and his slippery zipper.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Yes, in the same way that Poland was independent of the Soviet Union, back in the day. ;D
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
was that before or after poland became independent from lithuania?
What is it about national party failure and Indians?
Worth fancies curry in a hurry and gets the chop. Mellee holds her wake in an indian restaurant.
Are the National Party outsourcing NZ to India?
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
“Are the National Party outsourcing NZ to India?”
Is that the new Labour meme, Bonkers?
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
what’s that? A new form of dahl? Those Nationals, such a spicy bunch.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Don’t know what a meme is? Allow me to enlighten you:
Meme, noun, a cultural item that is transmitted by repetition in a manner analogous to the biological transmission of genes.
Origin: 1976 coined by a R. Dawkins, British biologist.
Hurf Durf & Sons, Co Ltd: turning people from amateurs to professionals since 1886.
Vote:June 14th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
God dammit borker, Key sacked Worth because he got caught. I doubt you will comprehend this but Key IS holding his caucus to a far higher standard than Helen ever thought of. The rule is simple: not smart enough to spot the trap, not smart enough to keep the job.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
billyporker:
Worth lied to key when spoken to directly. Thus key lost confidence, thus worth resigned, and this is why Key said he would have sacked him anyway.
Key is not a wishy washy corrupt lefty. He has nuts, and quite obviously expects his ministers to have them too.
Vote: