Herald on Choudary
June 11th, 2009 at 9:27 am by David FarrarAudrey Young and Patrick Gower write:
The husband of the woman who accused ousted minister Richard Worth of sending her sleazy text messages was convicted of an immigration scam. …
Has he been sentenced? It was originally scheduled for February.
Labour leader Phil Goff said last night he was concerned that the woman had been named and that her husband was being brought into the story.
The reason she has been identified is because Goff and Rudman could not keep their mouths shut. Goff’s description of her as “strikingly beautiful” was hugely important in people identifying her – along with Rudman’s revelation she was not just a member or activist but in fact had tried to become an MP.
His status had “nothing to do with the accuracy or the credibility or the veracity of what she has said was her experience with Richard Worth”, he said.
Well that depends on what her knowledge was of what her husband was doing. One may be aware but not be complicit.
One of the victims, Siddesh Sajjan, last night told the Herald he met Kumar and Neelam Choudary in 2002 and paid them $3500 for a job offer that turned out to be fake.
He said that although Neelam Choudary was not charged, “she is a troublemaker”.
This is first hand testimony that she was involved with making a job offer. Now as she was not charged, it is probable that she did not realise the job did not exist, but why get involved with making an offer if you don’t know that it is genuine.
A Labour supporter who lives in Mt Roskill and voted for Mr Goff, he said he had considered warning the party about her earlier when she became heavily involved with it, and regretted not doing so.
So the victim of the fraud is not a National Party member, activist or complainant.
Mr Goff said Mrs Choudary was now under enormous stress.
And who the fuck caused that? Who told the country she is strikingly beautiful allowing her to be recognised? Who has tried to keep the story on the front page for day after day by drip feeding e-mails and advising her not to hand the e-mails over to the PM’s Chief of Staff? Who tried to turn it into a political circus by insisting he attend any meeting with the PM as her “support person”?
Tracy Watkins and Clio Francis reports:
Labour leader Phil Goff yesterday accused National of outing the woman after Naleem Choudary was named on the Right-wing blog Whale Oil as the person claiming Dr Worth offered her plum government positions and subjected her to “vulgar and sexually explicit” phone calls.
The desperate idiot. Goff is the one who helped out her. His comments on her apperance combined with Rudman’s column allowed her to be identified.
The fact is that key people in National have known her identify for a week and they never ever leaked it – despite probably knowing about the fraud conviction. Could you have imagined Labour doing the same and not leaking her identity if she was a National candidate with a convicted fraudaster husband complaining about a Labour Minister? Shit no – her name would have been out within minutes.
I also know that TV3 made a decision to name the woman some hours before her name appeared on a blog. Why? Because Rudman and Goff had effectively identified her already.
Mr Goff refused to confirm the woman’s identity but said he was “really sorry” that a name was out there.
“What does this mean for any other person that wants to stand up and say, `here is a person in a position of power, they’re misusing their power’?”
It means never ever use Phil Goff again as your sexual harrassment advisor.
Mr Goff said he had never hidden the woman’s Labour Party affiliation, including from Mr Key.
“There’s no question at any point other than that she was a member of the Labour Party. I said that the very first time I spoke to John Key and the very first time I spoke to the media about it.”
There is a big big difference between being a member of a political party, and having sought a parliamentary nomination. It is a rare breed of person who wants to become an MP and is prepared to live such a public life by doing so. I will blog more on this later.
Mr Goff accused individuals “with close links to the National Party” of pressuring Ms Choudary to “shut up”, and said there was a deliberate attempt to undermine her.
Not sure who he is talking about, but I actually want her to supply all the text messages – in both directions – as Goff promised.
“Clearly, a political decision was made from the National Party that they would not respect her privacy and that they would attack her credibility.”
The desperate smear to cover up the fact he is more responsible than anyone except Brian Rudman for outing her.
Related posts:
- TV3 reports alleged Choudary pay off
- Ralston on dirty tricks
- The story that Phil told
- Fran calls for an inquiry
June 11th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Screw Goff and his tabloid set up and faux outrage bullshit. Hes worse than bloody Clark.
Never thought I’d be saying THAT.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Phill Goff the gift that keeps on giving.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Don’t hold your breath for the TV news to do anything but gloss over this. They will play Goff being all self-important and outraged and nod their heads and not ask a single difficult question.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 9:36 am
And talking of “right wing blogs” have you noticed how WO and Kiwiblog have become the defacto MSM in this country now. They break more stories than all the papers and TV put together it seems.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Notice how no-one in Labour seems to be telling Goff to STFU. It’s a Win/Win for the likes of Little and Cunliffe. If Goff somehow manages to score some points against Key it’s a win, if Goff keeps digging his own hole it’s a win.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Brian – the MSM is becoming increasingly marginalised over ‘real’ news. Want real time news? Visit the blogosphere. It doesn’t happen on the MSM sites at all. As for Mr Goff, I hope he’s wearing a cricket box to save his nuts from all the kickings they’re getting…
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Even though I think she had a bloody cheek demanding to meet the PM face to face, you have to wonder how much Key knew about her background when he was reluctant to do so. Key comes out of this smelling like roses
Vote:This woman either has a huge opinion of herself or it was a complete setup
You could imagine what the media focus would have been post any Key/Choudary meeting ……”was she strikingly attractive Mr Key?”
June 11th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Brian – Goff won’t shut his mouth so I expect TV1 and TV3 to keep poking a microphone at him.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Barry Soper said this morning on the 6am news on Newstalk ZB that the leak of her identity came from Goff’s office, not John Key’s. Of course the initial outing came from Brian Rudman who is a good friend of Labour ex-president Mike Williams. Whale Oil only had to add up the numbers. I figure Goff & Co knew that would occur and so then could heap blame on the Nats for picking on the victim. This is pretty childish stuff from the left and as transparent as a see through pair of knickers.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 9:41 am
People whose credibility has been destroyed by SMS-gate:
1. Richard Worth. Sacked a week ago.
2. Neelam Choudary. Will never stand for parliament.
3. Phil Goff. Tried to create a scandal over a bloke inviting a woman to go for a swim, and ended up looking pathetic.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Murray, you have echoed my thoughts entirely.
He seems to be far more interested in muck raking, and then denying it immediately on camera.
Just like the female that bought her big job in the UN.
Goff actually has become far more vacuous, far faster, and with an evil little grin. Same warty look.
The Labour owned media are very happy to be compliant, and not rattle Goof’s world.
I am now thinking that he is in serious danger of being sued by Worth if he doesn’t come up with the promised
goods.
Just fantastic that Goff has dropped himself into the gutter with dubious immigrants.He will look like a totatl Jessie by polling day!!
Happy Times.
Now that would be rather splendid.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Perils of Facebook
When specifically asked whether Neelam Choudary was a friend on radio this morning David Shearer said he knew Neelam Choudary, but she was not a friend.
However, on her facebook page Neelam Choudary lists David Shearer as a friend which means he has ticked the “friend” box.
So be careful who you name as a friend on face book.
You might want to deny it in future.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 9:52 am
“Well that depends on what her knowledge was of what her husband was doing. One may be aware but not be complicit.”
Actually, I think you will will find that if you are aware that illegal activity is occuring, but choose to do nothing about it, you are complicit.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Actually Toby I think you will find you are wrong. Doing nothing does not make you culpable. You have to either assist in some way or omit to do an action for the purposes of aiding the offender. Simply ignoring what is going on is not a criminal act.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Heres a little quote from Goff:
“I believe she had credibility because I knew about some of those events as they were occurring,” he said.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10577754
THAT is the biggest foot in mouth I’ve seen for a long time. Has Goff been going to the Melissa Lee school of political ineptitude or something? Goff was in on it from the start but he wasn’t concerned enough to do anything about for at least 100 communications?
Time you started looking over your shoulder Phil, you’re about to be rolled by the first bright spark in labour who decides to take the party in a NEW direction. Out of the gutter.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:02 am
The MSM is well behind the pace in these matters, and favours unfettered sound bites from Goff even before they have established the true and full facts.
This has all the hallmarks of Mike Williams dash to Melbourne to dig the dirt. His timing was impeccable, and the UN female that bought her job stated that he paid on his own account. Later proven to be a total lie.
Labour just can’t stop lying. Goff can’t keep his trap shut. Pity for Worth that wasn’t also a Labour Party member, the Police would have done absolutely nothing at all.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:04 am
The only thing Goff has achieved is diverting attention from his economically flawed response to the budget. Maybe he can send Neelam to a real harassment counsellor, put it on the plastic Philin
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:06 am
I’m sorry, I hate to name call but Goff is a total loser (and that’s not the first name that came to mind).
Instead of trying to reverse the fortunes of his party by yanking it up by the bootstraps, he’s continuing with their election campaign of trying to besmirch Key. The fetid stench coming from the Labour party reeks of things rotten and dying. The desperation is palpable.
There are other serious things (like the economy) to worry about. While National takes steps to try and sort that out, Labour is playing the same old tune. They don’t want a prosperous New Zealand: they want power.
I’m glad we got rid of them at the last election.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Phil Goff needs to front up and explain what he knew, when he knew it, and why he sat on the information he had for months before doing anything about it. He needs to explain why he portrayed a Labour Party activist who has been pictured with Goff and Helen Clark, and is friends with David Shearer as a shrinking hopeless wall flower of a woman who couldn’t possibly tell a man to piss off. He needs to explain why he patronises women by talking about their looks. He needs to do all that now.
We need to see all the SMSes, both Worth’s and Choudary’s. Now.
Choudary needs to explain the odd coincidence between her husband offering (fake) jobs for money, and her claims that Worth offered her a job for “romantic” (snigger) favours. Now.
And if the SMS messages and explanations turn out to be as hopeless as they look at the moment, the Goff has to admit that he is as useless and unethical as Worth and join him on the back benches.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Andrew Fagan on Radio Live last night, on Goff:
“He has got seminal fluid on his face over this one…”
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:12 am
You know when this story first came out, said was proud of how both leaders had handled it. Its like candy with a child, Goff just couldnt resist and low and behold it will come back and bite him, or at least it should. Gutter politics.
And we all know I normally sit on the left, I want someone to vote for darn it, and at the moment its only National which is fine while Key keeps his wolves in check.
Why couldn’t ACT at least keep to their original principals and be the liberal party they were founded as, the switch to conservative so disapointing.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:14 am
DPF, I hope you will make this the basis of your NBR article tomorrow so that thos who don’t read WO, Kiwiblog and Kate etc will see what the MSM are missing?
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Goff has been involved from DAY ONE. From NZ Herald:
“Mrs Choudary has said she met Dr Worth during last year’s election campaign and he invited her to meet him at a cafe in Sylvia Park on November 26.
Mr Goff said she contacted him before the meeting, and he said it would be okay, if she took someone with her.”
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:18 am
No comment!
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:20 am
MAYBE MP Worth might be a ‘louise nichols’ and claim he was frightened from the harrassment of this woman and didnt want to go to the police about her, so to keep the peace he txt her replies.
Isnt it time we had a big expensive inquiry which will enable men to justify their actions. We are in a world of equality and some men might be able to get some new found ‘victim’status.
Shame on all these whistle blowing woman who simply set up and lead men to the slaughter. mmmmm
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Gormless Goff.
’nuff said.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:35 am
This is a revolting post David, you’re desperately trying to smear the complainant. To discredit her. It’s the oldest, grimiest trick in the book and decreases your standing.
Poor form.
Why not play the ball not the man? This is a complaint to do with Richard Worth offering jobs for ‘friendship’, not whether or not the husband of the complainant is under suspicion of something completely unrelated.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:41 am
You mean like Goff is doing david c?
Oh wait, hes not. Goff is driving this, you want to bitch about it, bitch to him.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Umm, David. The credibility of the complainant goes stright to the heart of the matter. It’s hardly poor form, it’s intellectual honesty!
Besides, Neelam Choudary’s facebook friends page does read like a who’s who of the Labour Party!!
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:42 am
“The credibility of the complainant goes stright to the heart of the matter.”
The complainant isn’t her husband.
“Besides, Neelam Choudary’s facebook friends page does read like a who’s who of the Labour Party!!”
So Richard Worth is allowed to harrass pepople if they are friends with Labour people?
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:43 am
This is a revolting post David, you’re desperately trying to smear the complainant. To discredit her. It’s the oldest, grimiest trick in the book and decreases your standing.
Utter tosh – what we are really witnessing is the parasite class eating itself, nothing to do with DPF except he is commenting on what is going down.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:45 am
To be fair to David C, he has a point to a degree. I’d agree that her husband’s past has little to do with these revelations. But if the issue becomes one of her credibility – who to believe – then if she puts her credibility as an issue she is entitled to be quizzed on it: it can’t be taken simply at face value. It’s probably a line call whether she has done that yet.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Time you started looking over your shoulder Phil, you’re about to be rolled by the first bright spark in labour who decides to take the party in a NEW direction. Out of the gutter.
I personally hope not, frankly I think he is doing a stunning job on behalf of the National Party.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Oops, edit faiiled on me. Delete my last sentence in comment immediately above.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:52 am
I dont believe its her husbands past that’s the issue – its how deeply she was involved in her husbands dealings. Judging by their victims statements it appears she was in it up to her neck
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Keeping this topic on-topic and news WORTHy – I think you meant a see-through sari.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:56 am
So Richard Worth is allowed to harrass pepople if they are friends with Labour people?
And I take it you have proof that Worth harrassed Choudary?
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Thats right chaps keep the blame Goff.
Under no circumstances must John Key be asked in parliament if he has received any complaints about the personal behaviour of other ministers or national MPs. At least not while McCully is in the chamber.
We must keep up the pressure on Goff , thats what all these very expensive media consultants are advising, and God knows, in Australia and England they have had plenty of experience in this sort of thing.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Gooner said “To be fair to David C, he has a point to a degree. I’d agree that her husband’s past has little to do with these revelations. But if the issue becomes one of her credibility – who to believe – then if she puts her credibility as an issue she is entitled to be quizzed on it: it can’t be taken simply at face value. It’s probably a line call whether she has done that yet.”
Gooner, I would have agreed with you, had I not read this in the Herald article this morning:
“One of the victims, Siddesh Sajjan, last night told the Herald he met Kumar and Neelam Choudary in 2002 and paid them $3500 for a job offer that turned out to be fake.
He said that although Neelam Choudary was not charged, “she is a troublemaker”.
“They played with my life. You don’t just take someone’s life and play with it like that.”"
The fraud victim met with both Choudarys, and paid THEM. Sure, Kumar Choudary was the one who was charged with fraud (did his wife have a LP “Not in the oublic interest to prosecute” card?), but there is a clear suggestion that Neelam was involved, if only by association.
I also find it interesting that Neelam was meeting with Worth during the period that her hubby was on trial in the District Court for the immigration fraud – remember that the first meeting occurred on 26 November, and the Herald reported on the conviction on 8 December – a time-lapse of less than two weeks. I believe that the issue is ALREADY one of Neelam Choudary’s credibility, particularly as she has yet been able to tender anything which could be remotely as incriminating as Goff has been making out.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Considering Choudary approached Goff before she even attended a meeting with Worth, and Goff advised her to take someone with her to the meeting, isn’t this evidence that Goff had prior knowledge of Worth’s character.. or more likely setting up a situation with Choudary that would play out as it has?
JC
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 11:38 am
I see the coutness of sycophantic trolling is with us, must be after morning tea time at the labour party office.
Vote:Nothing like an early start.
June 11th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Pat – do you have a source for that claim that she spoke to Goff before the first meeting with Worth?
David C – what nonsense. the only smearing is Goff of Key by saying National released her name when Goff is responsible. As to the complainant are you seriously saying that her credibility can not be questioned and everything she says must be taken as gospel?
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 11:48 am
do you have a source for that claim that she spoke to Goff before the first meeting with Worth?
It’s in the Herald article:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10577754
Mrs Choudary has said she met Dr Worth during last year’s election campaign and he invited her to meet him at a cafe in Sylvia Park on November 26.
Mr Goff said she contacted him before the meeting, and he said it would be okay, if she took someone with her.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Under no circumstances must John Key be asked in parliament if he has received any complaints about the personal behaviour of other ministers or national MPs.
I’m sure he gets made up unsubstantiated complaints about National Party MP’s all the time….
Seems you Labour tossers don’t have anything better to do than waist the PM’s time.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 11:50 am
And steal wine.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Hahaa this place is like a support group for all you guys mortified at National’s self destruction in these last 2 weeks
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
What the fuck are you dribbling about now?
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Self destruction? No, more an aptly timed and poorly executed smear campaign by the LP.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
It all seems to be reasonably straightforward. Ms. Choudary sees her party being dumped (no future there); decides to exploit an opportunity to cultivate a friendship with a powerful Nat. which will hopefully lead to productive employment. Tells Goff (don’t want to burn any bridges) suggesting she may have some value as a Trojan horse. And then cultivates Worth by setting up a friendship. Manages to sustain the relationship without actually lying down. It leads nowhere so is terminated. The talk of ‘harassment’ is crap (unfortunately this has become a buzzword of this decade) – there is no evidence of ‘harassment’, suggestion maybe, so what. This was a two way relationship with both parties endeavouring to exploit each other. A Game.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
“Poor form.
Why not play the ball not the man?”
David C, it’s looking more and more like Mrs Choudary told the team they were playing rugby but turned up with a soccer ball.
The issue is rapidly moving away from what is in the text messages, they are irrelevant. It is blatantly obvious that Mrs Choudary is more than capable of dealing with a minor pest with a boner on. Have a look at her page on the Labour Grasroots website and her love of posing with power. In India and other similar places there is great kudos in associating with people in power. Her photos of her and her husband with HC, Goff and others would be worth their weight in gold if you wanted to run an immigration scam of some sort………….hmmmmmm.
More to the point, we still don’t know what type of ball we are playing with but it’s becoming clearer by the hour.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
If racer1 is an example of Labour supporters than be joyful, there is no credible threat to JK for many years to come.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Mr Goff accused individuals “with close links to the National Party” of pressuring Ms Choudary to “shut up”, and said there was a deliberate attempt to undermine her.
Does that mean Goff considered the name was leaked from National Party source. If so he’s wrong. People outside National worked out who she was. I was one of them. Goff is a class A idiot. Just as well the Korean woman is not strikingly attractive.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
dear old trout , I feel like I know you allready…. funny that.
You forget the other Korean woman who has complained to the police. There is talk of a cheap hotel in Wellington.. its all too distastefull
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
As said above the Herald reports as follows.
“Mrs Choudary has said she met Dr Worth during last year’s election campaign and he invited her to meet him at a cafe in Sylvia Park on November 26.
Mr Goff said she contacted him before the meeting, and he said it would be okay, if she took someone with her.”
So she asked Goff if it was OK to meet. Is this because she was scared of Worth’s reputation as a womaniser, or because she was a labour activist meeting a National party minister? Goff says it OK to meet as long as she takes someone along. Again was this to chaperone her personally or to act as a witness with any political discussions. So why then does she not follow his advice? The paper says she took her husband along but he stayed in the car park.
You would think that as a party activist if the leader of your party said to take someone along that you would do that. This again shows how well known she is in the Labour party. I talked to a friend who is in the labour party in Wellington and asked him if he would be able to call Phil Goff to query a meeting he had been invited to and he just laughed at the idea.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Goff said according to the Herald “Why would she? Why would a woman of her age be interested in a relationship with a man of his age.”
It wouldn’t be the first time and there are lots of potential reasons – maybe just the sheer excitement of it all, maybe Labour guys were no longer exciting as they were out of power.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Oh more lefty outrage. Unless there is some proof that he swapped sexual favours for jobs, which is corruption, then this is just another case of two people getting it on when perhaps they should not have. Assuming there was no corruption involved Worth needs to resign for being a dickhead, but all this faux outrage over his sex life is ridiculous. Harrassment – please – all I can think is that no woman in the Labour Party ever had a guy hit on her. I was going to say ‘no-one in the Labour Party’ but I suspect that lots of non-females are hit on by guys in the Labour Party.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Thankyou Brian. As the reasons for outrage disappear one by one the left clutches at straws (‘distasteful’ is not a sacking offence). Perhaps the ‘Korean woman’ did not enjoy her breakfast – who knows. It is very unlikely her complaint will result in charges being brought.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
I wonder if there was sausage on offer at the breakfast table?
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Gooner: “…or omit to do an action for the purposes of aiding the offender.”
Exactly. She knew something illegal was happening, didn’t alert the authorities or victim(s), and benefited (through her relationship with the offender) from the offence. Therefore, she was complicit.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
“Goff said according to the Herald “Why would she? Why would a woman of her age be interested in a relationship with a man of his age.””
Fool Goff is now proving to just be ageist as well as stupid. Putting aside that Richard Worth is strikingly unattractive in my opinion, his age should not matter as to whether a younger woman would find him attractive.
Hands up how many Labour Party members (and MP’s in fact) are currently having relationships with people of half or twice their age? And Press Gallery reporters? And newspaper editors? And Labour Party staffers…….
Talk about insulting an entire class of person.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
You can walk down Lampton Quay and see women hand in hand with men twice their age. Hardly a crime. Is Goff that unworldly?
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Ageism is just wrong and must stop immediately. Particularly against men in the 45-55 year age range.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Well you know that the game is over when the vast numbers of posts attacking Worth and defending Goff and especially trying to portray key as in the wrong have all but disappeared, The usual trolls scarpered leaving the sad mewlings of CoC, racer and DavidC as the only leties.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Catus only as long as their bank accounts reflex a certain level of achievement.
Vote:According to my wife that is.
June 11th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
A couple of things that have caught my attention.
After around 28 years in the political arena Goff is elected as his party’s leader. 11th November 2009
I’m sure he is very occupied with his new position and getting his troops under his influence, yet -
Within a fortnight [before 26th Nov] a woman is contacting him about a meeting she has been invited to.
Now I have to ask – just how close are they that she could feel free to contact him; or was she very aware
of how this could be set up to benefit the Labour Party.
2nd. If my sums are right, Phil Goff is 55 yrs and Richard Worth is turning 61 soon.
where does Goff get off insinuating Worth is an “old man”. 6 years is hardly an huge gap at that age.
In my research for correct numbers I found myself on the Labour website/Goff’s section.
Vote:Quote “We will offer constructive solutions for New Zealand”
Doesn’t he need to start getting on with it?
June 11th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Bok
If they aren’t fiscally well off by Worth’s age, then chances are they will never be. Nothing unsexier as a woman than having to help him up the stairs with the arthritis and then having to pay for the hip operation
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Dyannt
In my research for correct numbers I found myself on the Labour website/Goff’s section.
Quote “We will offer constructive solutions for New Zealand”
Doesn’t he need to start getting on with it?
Good point, hard to know if in fact Philin Goof even knows where to start with constructive solutions….. The decade of shams by labour came to an abrubt end at the election which timed well with the end of a decade where by any fuck wit could have run the show….. Labour peeps have no clue as to what is happening around them……
Philin Goof is perfect as the leader of the opposition – National are safe as houses, well built non leaky houses that is….
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
The nature of the situation seems to imply that Neelam was willing and compliant with Worth’s requests until a situation or agenda caused her to suddenly adopt the characteristics of a helpless woman
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Did Helen Clark really launch one of the worst election campaigns of all time so that she could get kicked out on her ass by the voting public simply so Phil Goff could be appointed Labour leader and lead New Zealand to “a brighter” future.
Looks like she received all that humiliation for nothing.
Vote:June 12th, 2009 at 12:41 am
Kate I am one of the luckier males, I married a woman 15 years younger then me and 4 x richer.
Vote:June 12th, 2009 at 1:08 am
That makes no rational sense unless the woman inherited the money in which case never actually earned it herself. If not, alas Bok, you must have a very large ……….
Vote:June 12th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Personality Kate, Large personality. Beautiful Big smile, I am told and an enormous heart.
Vote: