More on Choudarys
June 15th, 2009 at 10:42 am by David FarrarConvicted fraduster Kumar Choudary is listed as a Director of Kumar Karkare Enterprises Ltd and OSCM International Ltd.
Aspiring Labour candidate Neelam Choudary has been a co-director of Kumar Karkare Enterprises Ltd since May 2004. That company has ceased to carry on business and the Registrar is about to remove it.
Of more interest is OSCM International Ltd. They have three Directors. The first, since Oct 2005 is Pavitra Roy (who may be the same Pavitra Roy who stood for the Progressives in 2008). The other two are Kumar Choudary and Lourdu Joseph William Reddy – both convicted of six fraud charges in December 2008. They became Directors of OSCM in February 2009.
So what is the problem? Well if you have been convicted of a crime involving dishonesty (such as fraud) within the last five years, you are ineligible under s382(1)(b) of the Companies Act to be a Director. And both William Reddy and Kumar Choudary signed Director consent forms in February 2009 – just two months after they had been convicted. The forms explicitly make clear that you can not sign if convicted.
His form is attached here – choudary.
Now Choudary I presume faces liability both for signing the form, despite beign prohibited, but also remaining a Director of the other company, along with his wife Neelam. The maximum penalty under s373(4) is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years or to a fine not exceeding $200,000.
Related posts:
- Neelam Choudary
- Choudary resigns illegal Directorship
- TV3 reports alleged Choudary pay off
- Herald on Choudary
June 15th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Nice digging DPF.
Message to aspiring labour smear merchants – make sure you have clean gummies before you jump in the sewer
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Mike,
Vote:The companies stuff takes about 2 minutes on the companies office website to find. I found it 10 days ago.
It also provides much other useful stuff as DPF will know.
I wonder if the registrar will do anything with Mr Choudry
June 15th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Will the temporary Labour leader Phil Goof finally drag his tongue back into his gob and admit that the poor immigrant “victim” he’s been chaperoning through this muck-raking Labour Party botch-up is “strikingly dodgy”…or is he still stuck on “strikingly attractive”?
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 11:24 am
If Richard Worth offered someone like that a job, then I can see why John Key sacked him!
Goff has made a complete meal of this hasn’t he!
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 11:44 am
The Choudarys, the gift that keeps on giving. It’s the Koreans turn next. Jeez immigration really needs to lift its act.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Does anyone know if Kumar Choudary has been sentenced yet?
[DPF: Yes around 120 hours community service I think]
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 11:51 am
They have probably set up the new company to bill the Labour Party for services rendered, and claim the related expenses.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 11:52 am
I2,
Vote:Yes, this report says he got community service
June 15th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
LOL
Good to see a clearer picture is emerging of who Richard Worth wanted to do the horizontal samba with!
[DPF; You forgot allegedly]
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Talk about a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
[DPF; You forgot allegedly]
Eh?
[DPF: You stated an allegation as a fact]
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
I can see all the Labour voters reading this and thinking “so what’s the problem?”.
Vote:They are not constrained by the rules that guide mere mortals.
June 15th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Once again (like the Immigration Report) this shows a lack of data sharing by government agencies.
Surely there is a register of people that have been convicted of dishonesty. Surely when a Director Appointment statement is lodged it would be simple for the Companies Office to check the name of the Director against this register and then set the wheels in motion to get the director removed.
I know that the Government has been making good steps in this data sharing area (under Labour) but they still have a way to go. Obviously this is another project for another Minister. Shit, they have some work to do to tidy up some of this mess.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
BTW good work DPF. Done without a single MSM quote! I wonder if they will credit the source when they publish?
My view remains that the Choudarys had other motivations in creating a contact with Worth and that Goff got sucked into it all. Either way it does not say a lot for his judgement on the issue and is why he now wants to close it down. I will be interested to see how the Government handles it in Question time tomorrow or whether they will; just want it to go away as well.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
If you look at the form he actually signed, it clearly states on the form that people convicted of dishonesty offences aren’t allowed to register.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
[DPF: You stated an allegation as a fact]
Oh! Thanks, you are quite right.
Good to see a clearer picture is emerging of who Richard Worth allegedly wanted to do the horizontal samba with!
Goff could not have done a better job of making Labour the bad guys in all of this…
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Great work by the party research unit. Didn’t you work for them at one stage. We must encourage these back room people .
Just goes to show national isnt the only ones to get muddled by these forms forms and more forms.
Wasnt Johnnie having a problem when he signed his enrollment form, luckily that went away.
Then there was the company shares in Tranzrail, luckily that went away
Remember too the emails he didnt get about the Brethren, luckily it went away
[DPF: 20 demerits for alleging this came from the party research unit. Sick of these lies]
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Who found this for you then David, that form would not be just lying around online?
(or is even asking grounds for a slap on the wrist?)
[DPF: That form is online on the Companies Register. Someone did bring it to my attention but he does not work in Parliament, Government or the National Party - in fact has been self employed for around ten years. You see this is the great thing about blogs - hundreds of readers send me stuff on a regular basis that they think will be useful]
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Kumar doe have a ‘strikingly beautiful’ signature.
He should be arrested for this. Utterly scandalous. As should his co-directors.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Sonic, try the companies house website.
Not hard.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
The mysterious world of the Companies Office is obviously confusing the left wing muppets.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
“hundreds of readers send me stuff on a regular basis that they think will be useful”
But they like to stay secret, we know how it is…”
[DPF: You know Sonic if you posted under your own name, that would have a lot more credibility. Are you really suggesting anyone who contributes to a blog should have to be publicly named? If so, then start with yourself.]
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
DPF
I have a re-write for law as you have quoted it above. Note this amendment applies only to Labour party members;
You said; “The maximum penalty under s373(4) is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years or to a fine not exceeding $200,000.”
New wording;
The minimum bonus under s373(4) is appointment to a ministerial position for a minimum term of 3 years and a salary not less than $200,000.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
You seem to be saying sonic, that if it remained out of the public eye it would be ok to cheat the system. Thats how I see your comment anyway.
Vote:No, you wouldn’t intimate that would you?
June 15th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
as sonic vanishes into a cloud of confusion having realised that so many of his own personal details are potentially available in the public domain. LOL
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Have fun looking up “sonic” in companies house there David. Unless, of course, you have lots of mysterious “readers” who are willing to work all weekend to find you the material
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
sonic WTF is your problem. This immigrant would appear to have comitted a dishonesty offence for the second time. What the hell is wrong with exposing this?
[DPF: Because they vote Labour of course]
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
I think Shearer may have been halfway correct, right theme, wrong nationality.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
I’m always interested in sources Murray M, are you not?
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
“Someone did bring it to my attention but he does not work in Parliament, Government or the National Party – in fact has been self employed for around ten years”
Interesting that you do not say “has no connection with the National Party” or “has never worked for the National Party”
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Has anyone complained to the Registrar of Companies about this guy yet? If not, I will.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Breaking News – Phil Guff will appear on TVNZ news at 6 to explain why John Key was wrongfor failing to criticise Paula Bennett for having a criminal relative but it is OK for Phil – excuse I didn’t know how to check this kind of thing out – incompetent/hypocrit or just the Smearmaster general trying to emulate dear leader without her devious skills born of decades of practice.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
So, Neelam Choudary’s business partner diddled people and was done for fraud. It appears that the Korean woman and her business partner owes people lots of money as well, according to the Companies Office.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Maybe Neelam Chaudhary should have waited to become a Labour MP before her husband indulging in these activities. As usual no investigation would have occured and no charges laid, they would have been able to have a field day.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Sonic the source is the fucking companies office.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Wanderer (1:07pm) – yes, Ms Choudary does appear to have jumped the gun!
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
The source is the person who looked it up Murray, the companies office is not a sentient being.
It is ironic though, that in a thread tying to dig up dirt on the partner of a woman who accused a National minister of sexual harassment, no-one is allowed to ask anything about who provided this information.
Anonymity seems to be sacred for the source of this article but not for women who “allegate” against one of your political chums.
[DPF: Are you really this stupid. There is no comparison between someone who merely points out a factual document online, and someone who makes allegations which rest on he says vs she says]
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Speaking of not a sentient being…
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
I bet these bungling fools are now wishing they had never heard of Richard Worth. Probably a few Labour party people wishing they never met the bungling fools.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Murray M – WTF is wrong with sonic?…… More so WTF is right with sonic!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
“dave (571) 4 0 Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
So, Neelam Choudary’s business partner diddled people and was done for fraud. It appears that the Korean woman and her business partner owes people lots of money as well, according to the Companies Office.”
Big News Dave – very interesting link you have provided – also interesting that the Korean woman’s business partner is well known in the Indian community. What a co-incidence.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
“It is ironic though, that in a thread tying to dig up dirt on the partner of a woman who accused a National minister of sexual harassment, no-one is allowed to ask anything about who provided this information.”
Not trying sonic, succeeding.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Had a few days off from reading Kiwiblog and others etc. So am unsure whether this has been said already ….
Wonder if Goff played up the Neelam Choudary/Richard Worth text allegations (etc) to the media in recent weeks (i.e. after what, 2 or 3 months or so – and to JK a month or so ago), not so much as he believed them to be fully true etc, but more so as a strategy to embarrase and damage National’s credibility in the Mt Albert by-election?
The timing seems to fit in.
Eg detail allegations to the media on a daily basis (what, some 2 weeks ago now?) including even when media comentators were starting to get tired of Goff’s tactics (hell I even heard Gary McCormick on RNZ’s The Panel a couple of weeks back saying he was tiring of Goff’s antics – I wouldn’t expect McCormick to vote National or Act eh).
Finally a few days before the by-election and Goff’s antics stop.
The damage has been done.
Labour and allies playing up Motorway extenstion and the SuperCity plan to demonstrate a Govt out of touch (!).
Throw in allegations of a National MP’s morals and possible sexual harrassment etc, bingo!
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Niggly since you’ve been away it has been decided that this whole affair has been a triumph for John Key and his decisive leadership in sacking someone who did nothing wrong except for being the victim of a left-wing plot.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
niggly – my thoughts in a nutshell are that this is just how the game is played by labour, way down in the depths of the gutter, with all the seedy BS and low lifes….
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Hump said “The mysterious world of the Companies Office is obviously confusing the left wing muppets.”
Indeed Hump. I guess that would be because companies are formed by people who want to go into business for themselves, work hard and take some risks. All of those concepts are, of course, foreign to the left
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Yep, and certainly not people who think it would take all weekend to look up some simple details
“who are willing to work all weekend to find you the material”
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Time will tell sonic….. Time is a good thing…
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
I’m sure it will whafe.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
There. Just mailed away a complaint to the National Enforcement Unit which looks into breaches of the Companies Act. The complaints can’t be made online. All has to be done with snail mail. Chaudery et al could have diddled another 50 people by then
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
tknorriss, well done, but you could always go to the top – MED Minister gerry.brownlee@national.org.nz
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Thanks Patrick. Will do that as well.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
I send DPF stuff every other day, I’m not exactely secret.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
On Radio Live with Willie and John Tamahere at 2.55 pm, Friday 12 June 2009, Mr Phil Goff told a caller he did NOT know anything about the charges Neelan Choudary’s husband – Kumar Choudary – faced at the time he (Goff) advised her she should take a support person along with her to her first meeting with Dr Richard Worth on 26 November 2008 at a Sylvia Park cafe. Neelan took her husband Kumar along as a support person and Goff says he (Kumar) sat in their car in carpark nearby and did not attend the meeting.
The NZ Herald report by Audrey Young and Partrick Gower on Thursday 11 June 2009 stated:
“Last night, Mr Goff said he had met Kumar Choudary only once.
“He WOULD NOT SAY WHETHER HE KNEW he had been found guilty of immigration fraud, but said that did not affect the credibility of the complainant [made by Mrs Neelam Choudary against Dr Richard Worth]”.
Has Mr Goff been honest with the New Zealand public?
On Tuesday, 2 December, 2008 – 11:24 – just six days after Goff advised Mrs Choudary about the cafe meeting with Dr Worth, NZPA (Wellington) reported:
“Two people have been convicted for creating fake job offers to help immigrants get New Zealand residence.
Kumar Akkineni Choudary and Lourdu Joseph William Reddy were found guilty on six of the 11 fraud charges brought against them at Auckland District Court, the Department of Labour said today.
“Potential immigrants, either in New Zealand with temporary permits or overseas, paid Choudary and Reddy to get them job offers, to be used to help them get permanent residence, the department said.
“The victims of the scam paid between $3000 and $22,000 for what turned out to be false employment offers.
The jobs were presented by individual companies or trusts, including fraudulent offers made on behalf of the Waipareira Trust in west Auckland, without the trust’s knowledge.
Both were remanded on bail for sentencing on February 3.”
Mr Goff expects the New Zealand public to believe that he knew nothing about Neelam Choudary’s husband’s involvement in criminal fraud, nor her involvement in the operation (both Neelam and Kumar’s involvement in the scam were reported in the NZ Herald on 8 December 2008. Neelam was not charged). Neelam was close enough to Goff to ring him to seek personal advice about the meeting with Dr Worth on 26 November.
Mrs Choudary had been part of the inner circle of Labour party activists and MPs for some time as well as involved in a wide circle of grassroots Labour voters who supported her attempt to secure the Botany nomination. It is hard to believe that Mr Goff knew nothing about the crimal fraud charges.
Vote:June 15th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
I have received positive karma for the comments on this thread I have made today. Thank you one and all. Now I have to vent. I am so frustrated that there are New Zealanders who will support and defend the actions of the NZ Labour party. JHC there are even New Zealanders who vote for them. I can only conclude they have a vested interest that involves money in their unworthy pockets. Whether it be a salary, a benefit, or some fucking back door scam. I come back to NZ once a year for a couple of months to keep my 80 year old Dad company. All the time I am here I witness the decline in the general mentality of the average Kiwi. NZ has become a nation of bludgers, malingerers, and those with an incurable case of entitlement syndrome. Labour are corrupt, they are scum, they are beneath contempt. NZ was once a nation of people with a can do, fix it with a piece of no. 8 attitude. The only people I see getting ahead now are the children of ethnic minority immigrants. Their parents toiled hard so the children could make something of themselves. In the majority of cases they have been succesful. I am so pleased to be leaving at the end of the month. I will miss my Dad.
Vote:June 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
I am so glad that this scam artists have been outed. Just 3 weeks ago my family were approached by willam reddy saying he could help us sell our families pines that are ready to mature. He said he had contacts in india to sell the pine too. He came with a contract for us to sign. i thank god for google as when we were having a meeting with him I googled his name on my laptop and all this came up as it was in the news with Neelam Choudary being named as the women who 1st accused richard worth. I told him to where to go.
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