Call to spy on Key
January 15th, 2010 at 9:37 am by David FarrarThe Standard is obsessed with the fact that John Key holidays in Hawaii. They go on about it all the time. The obvious answer that it gives him and his family some privacy is far too obvious.
Anyway a new low was reached in their comments section. Now this is not by one of the authors of The Standard, but from one of the Key hating commenters. And here is his theory:
i wish the standard had enough cash to send someone after Key on his hollidays to snoop around in Hawaii. what the hell does he do there anyhow? i hope it’s all savory activities. no strip clubs etc…. if he were going to indulge in anything that offends “mainsteam NZ” he sure as hell wouldn’t be doing it in Wellington.
at the very least an expat NZ asset could be developed to keep tabs on him.
No that is not the ghost of Mike Williams, but Roger Nome.
When challenged on his plans, he responds:
this is politics not kinergarten. the livelihood of hundreds of thousands of lower-income nzers is at stake here – and Key is screwing them. they’re more important than this filthy rich dude’s privacy (of course within the boundaries of the law).
Ironic that he posts under an alias, yet says there is no right to privacy. Oh, sorry no right for filthy rich dudes.
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January 15th, 2010 at 9:44 am
You’re far too diplomatic David.
The Standard ringleaders have been as bad as anyone with their bile, and cancerous attacks on Key about his family holiday.
Eddie, Irish, Lyn, Marty, Zetetic et al have all been acting like a bunch of reprogrammed droids since they have got back from re-education camp in Otaki (‘Young’ Labour Camp) it is hardly surprising.
What is surprising is the same tired old attack politics being trotted out, old dogs don’t learn new tricks I guess.
Roll on Term 2 for National.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 9:52 am
The left are only this way because the forces that claim to oppose them tolerate it.
Glad to see you highlighting the poison put out there by the Standard and its hate mongers.
There should be a lot more light shone on this poison. The right are far too tolerant of these depraved ends justifies the means power obsessed would be totalitarians.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 9:56 am
He is not invisible nor anonymous.
He is Phillip John Mason, post-graduate student, of Dunedin
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Small, sad, jealous little men.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 9:57 am
what scumbags. imagine if kiwiblog had sent people to spy on helen while she was visiting some communist shit hole. or dare i say it – spy on her in NZ.. or her “hubby”!
JK’s pad in hawaii is part of a gated community isnt it? good luck find someone from the standard with enough cash to get in
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Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Sharron Pawson commented on Trevor Mallard’s link:
“Jabba, Helen stuidied Politics all the way, John was only brought on board because he had money, he doesn’t have a clue how to run the country and he can’t even pronounce New Zealand properly. There are also sources that would beg to differ about him making his money above board too …….”
see above .. this is the sort of crap Labour supporters think .. I have another beauty from Millsy somewhere.
Vote:The above outburst was caused by my suggesting that Dame Helen was also a millionaire who received her millions from the taxpayer whereas JK EARNED his from the private sector.
Oh, when I suggested that if she had proof that Key made money illegally she disappeared (and I was defriened by the Muss).
January 15th, 2010 at 10:03 am
The internet is a wonderful thing. It has changed and is changing the world in profound ways. Alas, not all of them are healthy.
One of the negatives of the wired world is that people on the fringe have the opportunity to connect with like minded individuals – and disconnect from the mainstream. The result is that extreme opinions, paranoia and outright loopiness get reinforced by the positive feedback and the lack of correction from saner individuals – who are no longer in the exclusive loop of social interconnection.
Roger Nome seems to be one of those people who have blinkered themselves by only talking to the loonies who share their strange view of the world. This has led (I assume)him to become immersed in a strange hate-filled world where anyone not on the left is an evil filthy pervert dedicated only to crushing the masses beneath their heels. I feel rather sorry for him. Contemptuous, but also sorry.
Of course, the same phenomenon is seen on the right as well – especially in the US. There are a few Kiwiblog posters who should look in the same mirror.
But one of the greatest things about Kiwiblog is that it welcomes people of all political stripes – unlike The Standard which excludes the “impure”. Being challenged by contrary views helps keep us Kiwibloggers rooted in the real world. (It is also much more fun to debate things than merely provide mutual reinforcement for political outrage.)
So have pity for Roger Nome and The Standard. They are leading each other into the realms of delusion and madness, where we will not follow (I hope!).
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 10:05 am
At the risk of being a victim of Sproull’s Law:
Perhaps the author of that quote should check back into kindergarten to brush up on his spelling.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Looks like you’re the exception that proves the Law, Brian. THIS TIME.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Perhaps the worst aspect of this deranged idiot’s view is that he claimed to be a lecturer and charged with marking exam papers etc. Which does lead to some questions:
Is this sort of unhinged attitude common among the inhabitants of the Pol Sci Department of Otago Uni?
Is this sort of derangement common generally among the inhabitants of the Otago Uni Staff Club?
Are the students of Otago Uni studying Pol Sci getting value for their student loan money?
Do they care?
Would they know the difference?
Is studying Pol Sci a copout from useful study and nothing more than points on the board like Psych 101
Do employers downgrade any applicant with a Pol Sci paper in their transcript? (except Radio NZ perhaps)
Is Political Science a contradiction of terms?
Should Political Science be a legitimate subject for study in a NZ University?
Do Pol Sci graduates contribute anything meaningful to our society?
Is Roger Nome in need of treatment across the road at Otago Medical School?
Are his employers aware of what he is doing to the reputation of Otago Uni?
Do they care?
Are they intelligent enough to notice?
Aaaah so many questions —- so few answers.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 10:17 am
millsy says:
January 3, 2010 at 8:06 pm
@ Jabba – the reason why the National front bench are doing well, is because they are playing up to middle New Zealand’s nasty prejudices. Particularly ‘Crusher’ and Bennett. (whoever thought that New Zealanders would be so into prison rape and a SS-style police force). Remember, if you dont fit into National’s ideal demographic, you might as well [self edited because Ill end up getting moderated].
And this is why National are doing ok in the polls .. All you Middle New Zealanders have nasty prejudices .. SHAME on you all (I’m not sure what a middle NZr is but??).
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 10:20 am
Hey..
Maybe it would be good if some of these anal retentives went and spied on JK in Hawaii.
I think the US has some laws on such things, maybe it falls under terrorism?
A bloody good water-boarding and 120 years in a ‘pound me in the ass’ prison will be just what the doctor ordered.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 10:20 am
DPF, I find it ironic that the Standard writers consistently accuse you of dog-whistling, when it is quotes like this from Standard writers that give roger nome to go on his militant crusades:
http://www.thestandard.org.nz/i-dont-know-what-do-you-think/
Compare that to the outrage several years ago when Ms Clark’s private house was published.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 10:26 am
That thread degenerated into one of the most assinine threads it has been my misfortune to encounter, particularly after I asked for a but of fairness to the discussion pointing out that I’d guess John Key spent a fair bit of the time away dealing with matters of state so when that was allowed for he was actually having no more holidays than the average person’s four weeks. As for this threads point I am sure the media keep a close watch on him so investigations would be a pointless waste of time and money, though that seems not uncommon in politics.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 10:27 am
What’s so special about this comment? There are, like s.russell said, nutjob comments all over the place, at both Kiwiblog and the standard…pretty much every day.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 10:28 am
What’s happened to the Like/Dislike options? Damm people keep fiddling with things!
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Commies, can’t live with them, there’d be an inquest if you just shot them.
Weren’t these the same people who ruptured their nappies of PI’s going dumpster diving in the last couple of elections… although I recall they were very excited to see what bill English and John Key had had for dinner the night before.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 10:44 am
“..i wish the standard had enough cash to send someone after Key on his hollidays to snoop around in Hawaii..”
Yes, such a pity sugar daddy Owen Glenn is sugar daddy no more. The Labour slush fund for black bag operations has all dried up. Gee, what can Labour do now? Debate Policy? Hell no!
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 10:47 am
The only “black bag op” they know are plastic rubbish bags Richard.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Brian: kinergarten = Ger/Mao.”school of seafood harvesting”.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 10:58 am
David – Certainly the suggestion you have found is a silly one. But I think you are the last person who should encourage folk to make judgments about a blog based on silly things in its comments section. – Rob
[DPF: I made very clear it was a comment, not a post. But considering this is a topic the author have gone on about so often, I think it is fair to say they were dog whistling for it.]
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 11:04 am
oh here it comes, the lefty 4 stage process of getting away with it.
1. denigrate – davids the last person to make comments.
2. distract – this blog makes silly statements as well.
how long before the next two? going to be hard to deny it, though i assume they will claim its a joke.
and would you look at that, he has not been banned for making those comments. but we all know if anyone else posted the same thing on the standard we would be banned.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 11:07 am
“The only “black bag op” they know are plastic rubbish bags Richard.”
Correct Murray.
Vote:SOP for Young labour: Sneak around to Keys house…. have a look through the trash. Alternately hire some ‘plumbers’ to do it.
Later perhaps a burglary……
January 15th, 2010 at 11:19 am
No Richard, JK isn’t silly enough to leave his wine cellar open to pillage
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 11:28 am
I feel sorry for the Nome and his supporters..it just goes to show you how sick and desperate the left actually are.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Ryan/Brian. “The exception that proves the rule” is a phrase that uses the other meaning of “prove.” Similar to proving bread, it means testing. So, the exception that tests the rule. Which means that if Brian failed to make a spelling error, the rule is no longer a rule….just a generalisation I guess.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 11:43 am
One of the main reasons the Labour Party are working hard on their blog site to ensure it gets good cut-through and patronage, is their own realisation as to what a POS The Standard is becoming, and their need to distance themselves from it.
What’s really funny is that the lefties at The Standard can’t see the damage they’re doing to their own credibility (well, most have none anyway), and that of their beloved party. Long may it continue.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Lol at the Standard. It’s like a headbanger party. No girls ever turn up, but the guys get drunk, listen to some metal and have some fights.
Vote:Alternatively this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM
January 15th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Very interesting. I never knew that.
Anyway, “law” sounds better.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Just why is an absolutely idiotic comment on the standard worth such a post?
I mean, it’s not a post on the standard, but just a comment and a very stupid one to boot.
Don’t get me wrong, the comment is unequivocally idiotic and Roger Nome disqualifies himself from serious debate with such an opinion.
But are you implying that there is wider support for this?
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 11:59 am
You’re not still pissed that he messed with your Wikipedia page by any chance are ya David?
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
No but it is relevant that he has a history of limp wristed pseudo-terrorism.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
[DPF: I made very clear it was a comment, not a post. But considering this is a topic the author have gone on about so often, I think it is fair to say they were dog whistling for it.]
Wait, what?! So if the Standard craps on about JK being on holiday, that is “dog-whistling” for a proposal to spy on him? That relationship seems pretty tangential to me.
If a blog owner craps on about a specific topic for a while then, according to you, they are dog-whistling for every crazy and tangentially-related suggestion that appears in the comments. Is that right? Really? If so, I’d like to now ask you to fess up to “dog-whistling” for every ridiculous suggestion about Clark, including suggestions she be shot, due to your incessant posting over a number of years about per policies.
You made the bed, DPF…
[DPF: I would be surprised if you can find a huge number of posts of mine personally attacking Clark. Many attacking her policies, and the actions of her Govt. But there is no comparison between the way the Standard Authors go on about John Key and how I went on about Helen Clark. They have an obsession which is frankly unhealthy]
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Rogernome is a Coward. I remember some spat he had with TightyRighty over at the standard. Tighty called him out when he happened to be in Dunedin, my understanding is Roger agreed to go, but either didn’t turn up, or turned up so late that Tighty had gone. then accused Tighty of being a child when he called him on this. typical pinko lefty actions.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Mr Salmond, when many of the Standard posters write posts about Mr Key’s holidays as the theme of the month, and when one of the posters turns a discussion of the Supreme Court building into a discussion on Mr Key’s holiday home, and then provides the address for that holiday home, then in my view that is dog-whistling for the extreme elements.
Mr Farrar hasn’t to my knowledge posted items relating to Mr Goff or Ms Clark’s personal family circumstances, let alone disclosed the addresses of their private homes.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Tim Ellis wrote;
“…Standard posters…Mr Key’s holiday home, and then provides the address for that holiday home… ”
Rubbish. The address (approximate as it is) was originally published in a Herald on Sunday story, a story that Key seemed quite happy with. That story was linked from The Standard post, and from the original Fundy Post item.
Vote:Do you really think Key happily stood for a photo taken by someone from The Standard?
January 15th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Wll done Standard.
Well done Labour.
Addressing the real issues.
New ideas
Doing good works.
Intelligent and thoughful debate
Government in Waiting
with about as much chance of winning the next election as the Rev’d Ian Paisley for Pope.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Rob, look at it another way. People (from the left) regularly accuse DPF of dog whistling, and attempt to hold him accountable for what is written in the comments here. DPF is pointing out something that was on the Standard. There are therefore two options:
1. Neither DPF is dog whistling, nor is the Standard. Neither is accountable for things that occur in their comment threads (noting that the Standard moderate much more aggressively than DPF does, so logically they actually approve of what was said)
2. Both DPF and the Standard engage in dog whistles, and the Standard are accountable for this comment.
Personally, I go with point 1.
Next, RogerNome was a regular here for a long time. I don’t frequent the Standard, but it was interesting to me that Roger had written this drivel. That is what a blog is supposed to be – things that the author found interesting, had an opinion on, and thought others would be interested in. It meets that standard for me. So what is the concern?
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Its really obvious that the Young Labour Re-education camp has resulted in the sycophants at The Standard (sic) deciding to go on an attack politics binge about Key.
I suppose with the Labour opposition leadership team on a motorcycling holiday around the Coromandel and the B team at RedAlert wittering on about online strategy someone had to engage the Government.
Did The Standard (sic) team get the arse from the Labour party leadership at Otaki, is that why they are so sniffy.
LOL.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
The standard are the same people who screamed foul play when anybody suggested that something fishy might have happened at LAX.
What wankers they are.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
PaulL – I agree with you. I think that neither DPF nor The Standard’s authors can reasonably be held responsible for every comment on their sites. But DPF seems to disagree, and I’m just pointing out to him what happens if we apply his logic in this case consistently across all cases.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
What a great post DPF.
Your own commentators are calling for the assassination of an NZ public figure via poisoning -http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/robertson_on_megaphones.html#comment-651151 but here you are getting your knickers in a twist about a deranged commentator on the standard.
Stay classy mate.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
still distracting, obviously it did not work the first time.
how about you tell gnome how pathetic his post is, or do you agree with what he said?
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Grendel – Look at the first sentence in my comment. You will see that I did exactly as you ask, only without you having to ask. But nice try.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
” Your own commentators are calling for the assassination of an NZ public figure via poisoning”
Leftists- they can never enter an argument without bringing lies and distortions with them. The comment about the microphone being laced with Polonium 210 was a clearly an attempt at humour. The comment recommending spying on Key was dead serious.
Go away infant.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
so I wonder if the junior labour kiddies had their workshops at “that” OHtaki SchHool?
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
“Leftists- they can never enter an argument without bringing lies and distortions with them. ”
If this is true then you, Reddy, must be a leftist.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
“If this is true then you, Reddy, must be a leftist.”
Give me an example.
The fact is your buddy Taranaki was being deceitful, and its something that I come across all of the time, and I know Leftists don’t care because like Nomes call to spy on Key, they have no moral restraint and live by the credo that the means is justified by the end.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Never defend, always attack. Uncle Joe would be proud of you naki.
The rest of us think you’re a bit of dick though.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Reddy – Gee, how about all those comments where you stupidly suggest there was Communism in New Zealand between 1999 and 2008.
Murray – The day you become the spokesperson for “the rest of us” is a bad day for the rest of us.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
“Reddy – Gee, how about all those comments where you stupidly suggest there was Communism in New Zealand between 1999 and 2008.”
Hahaha. Thanks for the laff Rob. That’s such a clear example of a lie and you’re a real winner.
(See, you’re just as bad as the rest. False allegations designed to smear are always the most cowardly strategy.)
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
bruv – i forgot about LAX lol
thank god they arent in power anymore
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
I’d rather have rectal cancer than be “one of your kind” rob so its all good.
Fucking sucks when someone else speaks for you without your consent doesn’t it. Of course it was your Dear Leader who made habit of it so tought shit when it bounces back at you guys in the minority.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
” I’d rather have rectal cancer than be “one of your kind” rob so its all good. ”
Roger Nome saw nothing wrong with using Cam Slater’s picture as his avatar when he was posting so much of his vile crap all over the net. Paralleled in government by Klark’s shady dealings with Owen Glenn and using an excessive amount of tax payer money to fund her election campaign. These people have no principles and no morality. Anything can be justified on the false premise that it is for “the common good”. Amoral, obsessed with power and utterly ruthless, they need to be kept as far from the levers of government as possible.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
I am not sure that having a go at Roger Nome in this post is fair – given he is banned and has no right of reply.
I have no issue with his banning btw, it the lack of his right to respond to this post I am highlighting
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
He was banned for being a comlete prick so sad movies for him andrei.
Being soft on them just reinforces their sense of entitlement. Not much piont in being a social outcast if hes not cast out is there.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Red
Do not forget how the bilious one used our bloody money to purchase a job with the corrupt UN, the left never mention that.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
“The comment about the microphone being laced with Polonium 210 was a clearly an attempt at humour. ”
No it wasn’t.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Remember JK is a Jew, the Jews have always coveted the World Bank and as we are already seeing when Obama and the UN says jump JK says how high.
Dont be surprised to see him slot in beside comrade Clark when the opportunity presents itself. Its a disgusting ratsnest full of filth.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
You would know all about that RedYellow.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
“You would know all about that RedYellow.”
Always the smear without even the slightest attempt at substantiation. (such as an example) Get a principle commie.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
” Do not forget how the bilious one used our bloody money to purchase a job with the corrupt UN, the left never mention that. ”
So much corruption to be exposed- so little time.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Anyone here knows you frequently smear without substantiation, half of your posts probably qualify, that’s where the blog gets a lot of it’s laughs from.
Are you an unprincipled commie?
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
” Anyone here ”
I know you most probably has peasants for parents Pete, but surely somewhere you must have learned what bad manners it is to express opinions for everybody else.
Still no example? You’re a hollow coward Pete. Like most commies.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Good lord, this whole post (particularly it’s comments) should just be renamed “Cognitive Dissonance” and be done with it.
(Particularly like the part where a comment in a thread about appalling comments suggests John Key the Jew is trying to steal the World Bank with help from Obama and the UN. Love it, you guys are so meta)
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
And so it continues…..
http://www.thestandard.org.nz/covering-for-vacation-john/#comments
It seems these angry little pinkos just cannot deal with the fact that they are no longer in power, and it is really all about power to them, they claim to be concenred about the “average Kiwi” but the reailty is that the could not care less.
If they were really concerned about the plight of the average Kiwi they would have nothing to say, basically Key is continuing the policies of Labour and the policies that got us into the shit in the first place.
I am no fan of Key, but I would say that he has a far higher level of genuine concern for the average Kiwi than Labour have ever had, power to Labour is all about being able to brainwash the next generation, all about being able to place their own people in cushy govt jobs where they can spy on others for the party.
The attack on Key for having the temerity to holiday overseas is laughable, the previous incumbent of the ninth floor could not wait to get her arse out of the country every year yet we never heard a peep from the EPMU Standard about that.
I really enjoy reading their comments, the pain and hurt is obvious, as yet they have not learned or accepted that they lost the last election, long may this continue.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/general_debate_15_january_2010.html#comment-651103
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/general_debate_15_january_2010.html#comment-651107
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/call_to_spy_on_key.html#comment-651083
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/call_to_spy_on_key.html#comment-651209
That’s just a few from today.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/general_debate_14_january_2009-2.html#comment-650976
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/general_debate_14_january_2009-2.html#comment-650982
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/general_debate_14_january_2009-2.html#comment-650995
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/general_debate_14_january_2009-2.html#comment-651003
A few from yesterday. But you knew that.
You are what you accuse.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
” That’s just a few from today ”
A few what? I see nothing that is a lie or a smear in any of those comments.
Why don’t you be more explicit?
(I’ll tell you why. You know that if you tried to be, you’d get your arse kicked right out of the ballpark. You’re just another pissy little yellow backed commie fraud.)
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Aahhhhhhahahahaha. It gets better. When accused of smearing people, Redbaiter says “no I don’t you commie fraud”. Loves.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Roger Nome got all excited and spurted:
If you took a moment to look above the socialist trenches you’d see that visiting a strip club did no harm to the lily white, bland image of Australian PM Kevin Rudd. Even though he was all muttered excuses and “I’d had a bit too much to drink” (two shandys, one can only assume) and “I’d never do it again”, the reaction of most Australians was “Thank god, it seems he’s human after all”.
Given the less-than-robust image projected by Key, reports of him stuffing Ben Franklins down a stripper’s G-string would most likely endear him to a large section of the NZ public while not really damaging him with anyone beyond the few remaining blue rinse Winstonites.
So go right ahead and concoct such a story Roger, and demonstrate your strategic prowess to the rest of us…
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Gawd you commies have your brain cells so gummed up by leftist cant your ability to reason has completely left you. He has just proved he’s a fraud by his repeated refusal to provide explicit examples to back up his assertions. He’s got nothing other than hurt feelings and a desperate need to retaliate for the hits that Redbaiter has scored. He has claimed that smears and lies from Redbaiter exist “everywhere”, but apparently cannot find one that he can underpin with rational argument. How does this behaviour excuse him from the allegations he has brought upon himself??
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Haha Red, well, I’m kicking my own arse along to the ballpark to watch the cricket. A different entertainment.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Yeah, take your worthless crap outta here.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
DPF:
Don’t you have more than enough trolls of your own to feed and exercise without taking on Lynn Prentice’s?
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Cwaigie, what are you doing here? Shouldn’t you be over at Public Address rubbishing Kiwiblog with all of your Progressive mates??
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
What an ‘intelligent’ post by deadrightkev starts “Remember JK is a Jew” … really, I thought he was an Agnostic at best who sent his kids to Protestant Church Schools. But that explains it all … as written in the Protocols of Zion.
Gueeez Wayne, why don’t you go the whole hog a call for the bringing back of the gas chambers.
Some mothers do have em.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Redbaiter:
Making my point as always — keeping a fuckwit like you supplied with bile should be a full time job without feeding the Sub-Standard’s resident numpty as well. Now, isn’t this where you threaten to come over and burn my house down or something equally psychotic?
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
” Now, isn’t this where you threaten to come over and burn my house down or something equally psychotic?”
The suggestion I would make such a threat is more a sign of psychosis. Why on earth would I ever care enough?
At least Cwaigie, I don’t waste my time spewing “bile” about you in your absence as you and other sundry smug Progressives do with Redbaiter on Public Address.
Vote:January 16th, 2010 at 8:23 am
“The left are only this way”
“The right are far too tolerant…”
“Leftists- they can never enter an argument”
“The comment recommending spying on Key was dead serious.”
“I know Leftists don’t care”
“I know you most probably has peasants for parents”
You express a lot of opinions for other people. Often opinions that are “False allegations designed to smear”
As someone said, “always the most cowardly strategy.”
A reincarnated McCarthyist, you seem to yearn for a last century government that allowed unsubstantiated persecution. You even name yourself after his era:
McCarthyism is the politically motivated practice of making accusations of disloyalty, subversion, or treason without proper regard for evidence.
Steve Benen observes that opposition to socialism isn’t as popular as it used to be:
Only 53% of American adults believe capitalism is better than socialism. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 20% disagree and say socialism is better. Twenty-seven percent (27%) are not sure which is better. Adults under 30 are essentially evenly divided: 37% prefer capitalism, 33% socialism, and 30% are undecided.
All Western governments involve some socialist ideas, it’s normal and right as long as they are not overdone. Trying to act totally opposed to one ideology when a normal world is a conglomeration of ideals is futile, especially a century too late.
Maybe it’s time to update the name – and the thinking. It’s the 21st century now.
Vote:January 16th, 2010 at 8:56 am
I don’t know what all the fuss is about. John Key, mr labour lite, is doing quite a lot for labour. They should be complimenting him. His core supporters are the ones that are upset with him.
Vote:January 16th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Pete, that’s all nonsense. As I said above, the average leftist’s brain cells are so gummed up by Stalinist /Marxist doctrine they couldn’t reason their way out of a wet paper bag.
Your mission before you interrupted it by slinking off with your tail between your legs was to find a precise example of an allegation I have made that is untrue. This mission arose because of your completely off topic personal attack above, wherein you posted-
“You would know all about that (False allegations designed to smear) RedYellow.”
So (for maybe the fourth or fifth time) where is the example of the false allegation? Just put your best example here. One will do. Either do it or cease your endless sickening whining. Nobody forces you to read Redbaiter posts.
BTW, the phrases you have for mystifying reasons chosen to highlight above are all examples of opinion that is clearly expressed only for myself. For you to claim they are examples of “expressing opinions for other people” is just bizarre irrational shit.
I suggest it would be better if you just admit defeat and take your endless off topic whining about Redbaiter to some other blog. The left’s days of forcing people into moulds you accept as politically correct are long gone and you need to understand the simple fact that socialism is going to be rolled back and it is you who is the dinosaur. I think you might be boring readers shitless. I know that’s what you’re doing to me. (When you’re not nauseating me that is.)
Vote:January 16th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Off topic? Whining? Who?
This topic is about the Standard whining about Key. Yeah, I don’t care much about what the Standard thinks.
At this stage I am a fan of Key, mostly. I’m optimistic about what National could do if they follow through with what they are indicating they might. To refer to National as a follower of failed socialism is pathetic. We are in the age of pragmatic politics. You are not. Neither are some at the Standard, you are as stuck in the past as they are.
But don’t admit defeat, keep amusing. And no one forces you to read my nauseisms.
Vote:January 16th, 2010 at 11:30 am
“The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt”
Bertrand Russell
Vote:January 16th, 2010 at 11:59 am
LOL Pete George – Didn’t you know you’re supposed to be a commie fraud
Red Baiter
- As I said above, the average leftist’s brain cells are so gummed up by Stalinist /Marxist doctrine they couldn’t reason their way out of a wet paper bag.
- Gawd you commies have your brain cells so gummed up by leftist cant your ability to reason has completely left you.
- (I’ll tell you why. You know that if you tried to be, you’d get your arse kicked right out of the ballpark. You’re just another pissy little yellow backed commie fraud.)
- You’re a hollow coward Pete. Like most commies.
- Always the smear without even the slightest attempt at substantiation. (such as an example) Get a principle commie.
-(See, you’re just as bad as the rest. False allegations designed to smear are always the most cowardly strategy.)
This sort of comment is crap and just leads to flame wars and is a waste of time as there doesn’t seem to be much
Vote:You make assumption without links – you really are quite pitiful
January 16th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
There’s a theme to your postings here – you’re a sad sad angry little person.
Vote:January 16th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Red Baiter – (See, you’re just as bad as the rest. False allegations designed to smear are always the most cowardly strategy.)
IMO you should apply your logic to your own postings
Kettle……. Black
Vote:January 16th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Wow. Thanks for all those opinions.
You really have put a remarkable degree of effort into what is essentially a load of subjective partisan crap.
Yawn…… zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz….zzzzzzzzzzzz.
Ooops, sorry. Nodded off there for a minute. Must concentrate better.
Vote:January 16th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
# Redprojecter – “a load of subjective partisan crap. ”
# Akldnut – “Kettle……. Black”
Vote:January 16th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Your ‘partner’ Pete?
Vote:January 16th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Pete:
“Kettle……. Black”
Vote:January 16th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
No, she’s not from Auckland and she’s not nuts about Auckland for a start.
Vote:My wife does have a good laugh at some of your Redrants but she doesn’t post.
January 16th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Ann Coulter on McCarthy-
“I know he got a bad rap because there are no monuments to Joe McCarthy. Liberals had to destroy McCarthy because he exposed the entire liberal establishment as having sheltered Soviet spies. ”
A funny interview with Ann-
http://rightwingnews.com/interviews/anncoulter.php
Another link on McCarthy that is well worth the read-
http://www.citizensforaconstitutionalrepublic.com/washington4-14-07.html
Vote:January 16th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
I can understand why you like this quote. A sweeping generalisation totally unsubtantiatable.
Interesting to hear that you confirm you are a fan of your redbaiter mate. He would probably have had them swinging from lampposts too if he could have got away with it. Guilty or not.
McCarthy has been dead for half a century. Most people have moved on from that era.
Vote:January 16th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Liberals had to destroy McCarthy because he exposed the entire liberal establishment as having sheltered Soviet spies.
So true though.
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