It is a pity the three strikes law will not be retrospective
February 28th, 2010 at 10:00 am by David FarrarThe HoS reports:
The country’s youngest convicted killer is the subject of a new police complaint, accused of indecently assaulting two female journalists.
He is fresh from a one-month prison sentence after admitting wilfully damaging a television camera – the latest in a string of offences including assault.
Bailey Junior Kurariki was released from prison in May 2008 after being convicted of the manslaughter of pizza delivery man Michael Choy in 2002.
He was set strict conditions by the Parole Board after being released four months early, but police and the Department of Corrections have not been able to stop his repeated offending.
The new indecent assault claims follow a visit by two female Herald on Sunday journalists to Bailey Junior Kurariki’s Auckland home on Thursday.
The employees, who the newspaper has chosen not to name, said the 20-year-old behaved in an erratic and distressing manner during the interview.
Statements record Kurariki exposed himself to the women, masturbated in front of them and groped them before they could escape the house.
In hindsight it is a pity he was only convicted of manslaughter, not murder, as a life sentence would mean his parole can be revoked at any time.
I guess we are just going to have to wait until he has killed, raped or bashed enough people, to lock him up for good.
Related posts:
- Three strikes may have prevented this
- Bailey Kurariki
- Reaction to Three Strikes
- The revised Three Strikes Law
February 28th, 2010 at 10:03 am
Sad reflection of the mess that is called our justice system.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:12 am
I read the headline before the article and I thought “The 3 strikes copyright law is retrospective”?
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Who would have thought that sending a thirteen year old to prison for seven years wouldn’t reform him into a model citizen . . .
[DPF: WHo would have thought the fact he was a killer at 13, is somehow the fault of prison as he did the killing before he went to prison]
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Our justice system is a huge dysfunctional rort. Have a nice round of golf your honour.Pay increase again this year Dame S?
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Oh no, teenage murderer turns out to be bad person. Who knew?
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:17 am
God only knows what goes through his mind now. Euthanasia does have merit.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Let me guess, the newspaper decided to send two female journalists to interview him at his home to manufacture some kind of “Bailey shows his human side”. Probably shouldn’t be too surprised that he turns out not to have one…
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:20 am
In hindsight, it’s a pity someone wasn’t convicted of a crime they didn’t commit, because it would have made it easier to send to him to prison for life for a potential crime carrying a sentence of only a few years? Stuff off.
It is not a pity that people who are innocent of crimes – like Kurariki was innocent of murder – for them not to be convicted for them. This call for a police state doesn’t really seem like you, DPF.
Second, even if three-strikes was retrospective, the other bit you’re missing is “it’s a pity three-strikes doesn’t apply to 13 year-olds”.
[DPF: I'm not being literal, just expressing frustration that he will probably end up doing 100 - 150 crimes before he finally is sent away for life]
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Send the All Blacks around your honour just like you ordered last time you deranged wombat. Bring back Buck and Rucking you pc liberal dropkick sicko namby pamby stuffed justice system!!
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:34 am
Edgeler you loon, you are avoiding answering the most important part of DPF’s comment “I guess we are just going to have to wait until he has killed, raped or bashed enough people, to lock him up for good.” , because clearly that’s what you’re doing. Who’s life are you prepared to see ruined before you will admit the obvious ?
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:34 am
The HOS sent a couple of women to the house of a known violent offender because…
I would sugest that they have a case against their editor for failing to provide a safe work environment… or was he looking for a story, which DAMN, he seems to have got.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:35 am
” Who would have thought that sending a thirteen year old to prison for seven years wouldn’t reform him into a model citizen . . . ”
As usual, Danny the Progressive is right on to it. While Michael Choy rests in his grave, his murders should be wet bus ticketed by means of a horde of social workers all on the government payroll working to turn this dirty cowardly POS into a “model citizen”. Barf….!!!
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:42 am
” like Kurariki was innocent of murder ”
He wasn’t actually, and the Justice system and the Law is failing NZ. Completely failing it, and I just wonder how long the country en masse will tolerate this failure.
There has to be a return to morality, and seeing remorseless murderer’s being set free by a Justice system that perhaps does not do one tenth of the job it is meant to do is an event that does nothing to assist this objective.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:44 am
What are you wanting PIA, RB? Lock up anyone indefinitely who could possible offend in the future?
On that basis maybe you should have an HM holiday RB, you have threatened/incited some major misdemeanors. Should we ask The Standard what sort of risk they think you are? And let them choose a suitable preventative sentence?
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:48 am
“What are you wanting PIA, RB?”
Please stop your cowardly smears Pete. I do not support locking people up based on what they might do, (you do though with your support for drink driving laws) and I have not ever written anything to suggest this. Desperate loser.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Put it away, you are missing the most important part of DPF’s comment, where he decides that people should be imprisoned for crimes they didn’t commit so that they’re less likely to commit crimes in the future. What if DPF decided you’re one of the dangerous ones?
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Sounds like a scenario out of Minority Report.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Red, just making a point. You have suggested hanging people from lamp posts so you are right, that isn’t imprisonment. And armed uprisings, that isn’t imprisonment. A government coup isn’t imprisonment either. My apologies.
“you do though with your support for drink driving laws)” – where do you get that from??
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 11:03 am
” where do you get that from??”
Drink driving laws are an arbitrary test that you are penalised for if you fail. No actual crime is committed. You are penalized because it is expected that you might, in exceeding this limit, commit a more serious crime.
What is more, this utterly wrong and uncivilized perspective is enforced by roadblocks where innocent people are stopped going about their lawful business and forced to succumb to what is essentially a search, even when their is absolutely no suspicion involved. (Suspicionless searches are a characteristic of the police states you are always pretending to defend against.)
Get it you fascist statist dumbo?
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Retrospective laws are always dodgy. They contradict NZ’s Bill of Rights Act (it specifically states laws cannot have retrospective effect) and the courts will always try to avoid giving effect to them unless the clause is absolutley clear in its meaning.
It certainly would be a can of worms if the three strikes law went retrospective.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Ah Red, how many people are imprisoned for failed breath tests?
If someone failed a breath test do we imprison them for possible future manslaughter? Or is the sentence based on what law they have actually broken along with their past record?
“(Suspicionless searches are a characteristic of the police states you are always pretending to defend against.)”
I know that is meant to be an attempt at a baseless slur but this one is also nonsensical. Even by your standards.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Yes, retrospective legislation should be the norm. That way, next time Labour gets in they can impose a more draconian retrospective Electoral Finance Act, enabling them to fine and bankrupt anybody who disagreed with them in the past. Good idea.
And yes, it’s a pity that we have to rely on a past conviction of manslaughter. If only we had a laws against indecent exposure and assault. Those lazy MP’s had better get on to something.
And yes, it’s a pity we have court systems at all in New Zealand. As clearly they are unnecessary, as we can just use evidence from a tabloid news story and a discussion in a blog to prosecute and convict somebody. Let’s get the bedsheets and crosses and go and lynch this guy straight away, shall we?
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 11:22 am
“Ah Red, how many people are imprisoned for failed breath tests?”
You see how disreputable you leftists are? Caught out in a glaring inconsistency you attempt to shift the argument, like the yellow intellectual cowards you always are, onto the frequency of the penalty and whether it involves jail or not. When you must know this is not in the least germane to the principle, and that is conviction. The penalty is not the issue. Fail again Mr. George. On logic, honesty and integrity. Just more snivelling cowardly attempts at distortion and distraction.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Who would have throught not raising children with some elementary concept of accountabilty would have them fucking smashing in other peoples heads at 13.
Actually anyone with a funtioning brain saw that coming.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Um Red, you shifted the argument to breath testing.
“When you must know this is not in the least germane to the principle, and that is conviction. ”
Kurariki was never convicted for murder, as DPF says in his post. Your version of a police state would have kept him locked up regardless?
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 11:29 am
This young criminal Kurariki is scum, who deserves to be put against the wall facing a firing squad.
Vote:It’s a pity we waste money trying to reform a beast like him.
February 28th, 2010 at 11:32 am
you cant lock someone up because they might commit a murder but this guy
must be at the highest end of commiting another murder.
oh well, as long as my family is not the victim.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 11:33 am
” Um Red, you shifted the argument to breath testing.”
I referred to breath testing as an example of your inconsistency, where you criticise others here (myself wrongfully) for suggesting people should suffer conviction or penalty based on the assumption they might commit crime. When breath testing is an accurate example of this idea, and you support it. Go away Pete, with your frantic ducking and diving and your false allegations, and your brain dead “ums” you’re not worth snot.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
The sentence of preventive detention must surely become under consideration if convicted of a qualifying offence. Kuririki does represent a failure but society does not need to tolerate him being loose if he presents an undue risk to the safety of the community. He might just have to be locked up – forever if necessary.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Surely you’re not suggesting that such behaviour is determined by external factors like how a child is raised.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
hmmm Kuririki is turning into Burton’s apprentice methinks. For what he (allegedly) did to those jurno’s, a week in the stocks followed by 6 months hard labour with a ball and chain, pick axe, and large rocks would be appropriate…………hmmmm perhaps a rubber ring in the appropriate place as well.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
I can’t remember so can somebody help me out please – what was the reasoning behind him being convicted of manslaughter instead of murder?
>Burton’s apprentice
This is the best description I have heard of him. I can’t believe how many chances Kuririki has been given. Soft punishment after soft punishment. He needs to be put away for good.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
That is scary, this is not a normal person.
Can he be imprisoned indefinitely for psychiatric abnormalities indicating a danger to society? What a freak.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
So – the paper sends TWO females out to the home of a criminal who is known to be constantly offending and who they know has absolutely no limits on behaviour.
And he fulfills their expectations and behaves badly.
They deserved all they got – and probably a bit more.
They should be charged with encouraging a criminal act.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
He got seven years for a crime committed at age 12 where he had no weapon, was involved in no violence, and wasn’t present when it occurred. Bruce Emery got two years for chasing after someone and stabbing them.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Now you’re talking, vibenna.
Seriously, if someone actually starts having a toss during a media interview, you have to conclude something’s gone a bit wrong in the clown department. I think this boy needs help.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Only if he is ever convicted for murder, though, even under three strikes? So the number of convictions is irrelevant?
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Pete – convictions for manslaughter under three strikes can also result in life imprisonment without parole.
Repeat convictions for serious sexual crimes can also result in preventive detention.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
13 year olds are not as responible for there actions as older people.
spending the years between 13 and 20 in prison being raped beaten and constantly badly treated will make him turn out pretty fucked thats for sure.
as for those that think that ubring makes no dif, watch this and then maintain your wrong opinions,
Vote:
February 28th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
“spending the years between 13 and 20 in prison being raped beaten and constantly badly treated will make him turn out pretty fucked thats for sure.”
I agree menace, but do we know if that was what actually happened? Presumably he was in an institution suitable for his age: i.e. he didn’t go into adult population until he was what, 18?
Sure it’s claimed that rape etc does happen and I don’t disbelieve it, but is it really the norm?
Secondly, I understand the worst thing about prison from all reports I’ve read from people who’ve been there, is the boredom. The fact you’re seriously under-used, given nothing jobs, not given challenges, etc.
I don’t really understand why we can’t address both the violence and the under-use, permanently. Violence can be solved by 24/7 ubiquitous surveillance and dragonian penalties for even minor violence: e.g. extra 5 years inside for even touching or threatening someone. Under-use can be solved by assessing people for their abilities and giving them appropriate challenges. Not everyone inside is a sport-watching Lion-Red drinking violent angry uneducated self-pitying moron, surely.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
I know about jail from people i know that have been there, what you read is bullshit
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Stop the wankfest menace – you don’t know jail until you experience it.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
A few things to think about.
One — the behaviour the reporters say they encountered. Disgusting. No doubt about it. Distressing, too, and frightening.
Two — sometimes encountering disgusting, frightening, and distressing people and their behaviour is part of the job. You get that.
Three — Bailey Junior Kurariki was convicted of murder, yes. But he was a lookout, wasn’t he, while Michael Choy was being beaten to death? Kurariki was there, he was part of the group, and so he was judged guilty with the rest of the group.
Four — the media should have left him alone. They frothed and wet themselves with breathless excitement when he hit a cameraman or his camera, or swore at journalists, or spat at them after he appeared in court. They made THAT the story.
Five — he did his time for his part in the killing of Michael Choy. He should have been left alone by the media to get on with trying to make something of his life.
Six — what on earth possessed the editor of the Herald on Sunday to think this kid was worth yet another story? Where was the ‘wow’?
Seven — Bailey Kurariki is no angel. Most likely I would not like it if he lived next door to me, or my daughter went out with him. But what example has he been given in his short life? Twelve years old and he’s party to be a killing! Sentenced as an adult. He’s like a pup that’s been allowed to grow wild.
Eight — So, if charges are laid, young Kurariki will become another media drama. There will be breathless on-cameras by young reporters outside the court house. He will have a camera thrust into his face and a mike under his chin and there will be demands to explain himself. He will probably react. Oh! Another media drama!
Nine — You poke a dog with a stick to provoke a reaction. And, Oh! The outrage when the dog snaps back. There will be (yet) more rent-a-quotes of (yet) more outrage from Michael Choy’s grieving mother, and (yet) more quotable quotes from Garth McVicar.
Ten — No, young Bailey has not turned out well. I don’t know who loved him, or who still loves him. I don’t know even if he is salvageable.
Eleven — But the media might want to have a rethink about how newsworthy he is. If they do think he is newsworthy then they might want to consider whether what they run of him helps him or makes him worse.
Twelve — yes, he can make choices. He is legally an adult.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
At least Ali Mau knows what to do with the guy in the red Corolla now.
Hold on to ya balls mate, she’s a comin for them.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
reid suggests:
I’m glad you added the word “actually” to that suggestion reid, given the number of people who metaphorically have a toss every time they’re interviewed.
Tom Cruise would be serving at least a dozen life sentences for a start.
Tripewryter: Well said.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
why are the media and cops hassling this fellow when that dastardly Cameron Slater is loose??
oh just in case the lefty criminal lovers think I’m being serious, I’m not
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
to tripewriter: why on earth did female reports go in alone? Probably serves them right to some degree. They are just lucky they were not further violated than they were.
Regardless, they have highlighted just how dangerous this ‘person’ is. That, is of some public good.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Wreck:
You would have to ask the HoS editor that.
No, I thought I was careful to neither say nor imply I thought that what happened served them right. I don’t think that.
The other aspect of sending women reporters — there’s no reason that they shouldn’t go. But sometimes it might be prudent to send a bloke, say a photographer.
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Poor Bailey
He never stood a chance, really, given his home life.
And now we are just going to hound the poor bastard to death.
What he needs is a guardian angel who will whisk him off to an island sanctuary and give him time to rehab and just catch up on his missed childhood.
But you guys will just have an orgasm at his inevitable demise, won’t you?
[DPF: No Bailey is not being hounded to death. The dead one is Michael Chow. You may want to remember that]
Vote:February 28th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Tripewryter: Spot on, mate.
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 12:06 am
David, I think you mean Michael Choi.
Bailey was 13. Just a lookout who probably no idea of what was going down.
Think about it.
13.
And the media treats him as a cash cow when he should just be left alone.
Why don’t you get one of your rich mates to give the poor bugger a chance?
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 12:16 am
Haha, so far we have Choi, Choy and Chow.
I think that is the way it went down,
“The fucking chow is late AGAIN!!?”
I am still waiting to see Ali Mau masturbating in front of the guy in the red Corolla, then grabbing his balls.
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 12:21 am
“And he KNOWS I don’t like anchovies!!”
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 12:23 am
Me too!
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 12:58 am
I stand corrected: it’s Choy!
But the fact remains that we have a dysfunctional kid trying to find a life and he’s just got no chance.
He was 13 at the time, and we are, regardless of what DPF says, hounding him to the point of self-destruction.
But then, I suppose that’s what right wingers get off on.
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 4:14 am
Right winger?
What does that mean?
John Kirwan or Jonah Lomu?
Personally, I would probably get off on seeing a vid of Aussie Barbie getting off in front of the red Corolla while NZ Ken Barbie looks on and gives himself a face palm.
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 7:13 am
To all those who bemoan how Kuariki is not getting a fair chance, was only a lookout etc etc. Why don’t you volunteer to host him in your homes. Show him the right way to live by your own good example. It takes a community to raise a child and all that.
Thought not.
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 7:22 am
Give a guy a break. Bailey Junior Kurariki has graciously provided an enormous amount of wonderful copy to NZ’s media since he was 13 – free of charge. He has also helped advance the careers of a number of journalists. And now – thanks to the forsight and wisdom of the HoS editor – Mr Kurariki has been provided with further opportunity to assist with filling the front pages of the print media. I suspect that there are a few more stories to be wrung out of this yet.
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 7:26 am
“Give a guy a break.”
Love too, two broken arms and legs!!
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 7:28 am
Yep, he had no chance being at the receiving end of the media and political opportunism. Since he is unlikely to get over it, he will always have something against the same antagonists…
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 7:58 am
Yeah how dare that pizza guy die and cause all that grief for young Bailey. Clearly a victim himself of colonialist oppression.
How can we be sure that Michael Choy wasn’t one of those evil asiatic Jooos Luc?
If you want a beautiful example of why left wingers are fundamentally mendacious and stupid people, Luc is the gift that keeps on giving.
I’m picking university student, probably about 26-34 (ie permanent student), studying wimmins issues and race politics. But regrettably too creepy for even the greens to put on their list.
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 9:23 am
[DPF: No Bailey is not being hounded to death. The dead one is Michael Chow. You may want to remember that]
And you might want to remember his actual name if you’re going to invoke it in pursuit of political points.
I know this is not the natural place to go looking for basic humanity, but don’t you think this is tragedy on tragedy? Nothing is going to bring back Michael Choy. And now the kid jailed as an accessory to the killing is sitting in his mother’s house, obviously psychologically disturbed, acting out, while she’s so sick from cancer treatment that she can’t lift a finger.
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 9:42 am
What is more, this utterly wrong and uncivilized perspective is enforced by roadblocks where innocent people are stopped going about their lawful business and forced to succumb to what is essentially a search, even when their is absolutely no suspicion involved. (Suspicionless searches are a characteristic of the police states you are always pretending to defend against.)
But aren’t you always blathering on about Singapore, where the government can and does seize and blood-test anyone it cares to, at any time?
I’m not seriously expecting you to make sense or be consistent, but this angle of argument seems a bit rich even by your standards.
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Interesting follow up in today’s Herald.
“Community Probation Services general manager Katrina Casey said Kurariki was subject to a release on conditions order following a short term of imprisonment, ….. Corrections is in the process of taking breach action against him for non-compliance with one of the conditions of his release order,” she said. …… One of the conditions of his earlier release was that he not speak to the news media.”
It seems that by attempting to interview Kurariki the journalists were actually assisting him to breach his release conditions!! Journalistic research being what it is, it is unlikely that these journalists had the faintist clue. A case of the ignorant in search if the sensational….. and they found it.
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 4:38 pm
DPF: “I guess we are just going to have to wait until he has killed, raped or bashed enough people, to lock him up for good.”
Unfortunately, in NZ you have to first actually commit a crime, before you can be locked up for it.
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 4:46 pm
And rape?? Really?
“Statements record Kurariki exposed himself to the women, masturbated in front of them and groped them before they could escape the house.”
Not very nice, but not strictly rape either. If you want to start locking people up because they might in future commit more serious crimes than they actually have done, then why not just adopt a universal death penalty?
You were clocked doing 115km/h in a 100km limit, so you’ll probably drive thru a crowd and murder somebody, Christchurch teen rave styles, in a few years’ time. Guilty, death by hanging…
(Please please righttards try to understand this is not a call for leniency against Kurariki… just for rationality.)
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Some of you people are really, really sick. Also: beware making statements along the lines of “Bailey Junior Kurariki is a murderer” because he was not convicted of murder (he was convicted of manslaughter) thus such remarks are slander/libel. In case you give a shit.
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 6:03 pm
” I’m not seriously expecting you to make sense or be consistent, but this angle of argument seems a bit rich even by your standards.”
What you expect is hardly of real concern Mr. Brown given your proclivity for scuttling off like a frightened crustacean the minute you are challenged with any inconsistency of your own (ie in the thread on National radio and why the listeners cannot pay by subscription).
In fact I am always consistent, and the reason you think otherwise is that you are a blinkered leftist who because of your condition lacks the ability to discern with accuracy any particular point.
It is noted that in this case you will not argue on Bailey Junior Kurariki, you will not argue on the principle I have attempted to draw attention to, but instead you seek to introduce some bizarrely misconstrued argument relating to my “blathering on about Singapore”.
It causes me some stress I must say to have to use my valuable time to write a response to such a logically disjointed accusation, but I’ll do it because one should never overlook an opportunity to expose you stuffed shirt dumb as a bag of hammers would be elitist leftists from Public Address for the utter fucking knuckle dragging gape jawed fuckwits you really are, and as your allegation in this case makes so plain. (did you read Mr. Sowell’s article on intellectuals? You should. Get a few helpful pointers on self improvement)
I have often exampled Singapore as an example of success in areas where we have failed. This does not mean I completely support every measure that the Singapore government has ever taken in regard to any social (or other) problem.
My main point about Singapore is this- it has managed to bring its citizens high living standards and prosperity that NZers can today only look at in envy, and Singaporeans have done this in the main by aggressively excluding the Progressive political argument pressed by such as you, and all of the socially destructive outcomes that ideology brings (like welfare dependency and moral and family breakdown). Now this has sweet fuck all to do with Bailey Junior Kurariki, or NZ drink driving laws, and it sure as fucking hell is no comment on my ” consistency”.
What is worth reflecting on tho, seeing you brought it up, is that the Singaporeans would have dealt in the proper way with this little cowardly POS right from the start, and if he had by any chance been living there when he brought about Michael Choy’s death, he sure as hell would not be a problem to lame NZ Herald so called “journalists” or anyone else today.
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 6:06 pm
“Nothing is going to bring back Michael Choy.”
The idea is to prevent any further such killings. You won’t do that by slobbering like a love sick dog over one of those responsible for his death.
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 6:21 pm
@redbaiter
Sweeping assertions unsupported by evidence – propaganda.
People who hold extreme political views and who gloss over Singapore’s human rights abuses in the name of economic success confirms that they are mainly waiting for the dictator of their choice to come along and save them all (from themselves?).
I prefer, if that is the necessary choice, and I don’t believe it is, to be poorer but wealthy in terms of genuine freedom.
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Go away Mr. Hansen. You’re another laughable brain damaged leftist loon who couldn’t string a logically coherent argument together if your life depended upon it.
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 7:49 pm
DPF, you say that we are going to have to wait until Kurariki commits another serious violent crime before he is locked up again (true) and that we can expect he will commit 100 or 150 crimes before his is locked up for life (NOT true)
That is the whole point of “three strikes”; the days of 100 violent crimes before lengthy incarceration are over. He will have the opportunity to commit three more serious violent crimes before being sent away for 14 years (if the third one is an aggravated robbery) or 20 years if – God forbid – the third one is rape. Add either of those sentences to the 7 or 10 years combined that he will have served for strikes one and two, and he will be beyond the peak crime committing years when he comes out after this third strike offence. If he then commits another serious violent crime, he will again receive the maximum sentence, and be wearied by age when he gets out of jail.
Those four crimes to see him to age of 65 are four too many, but a damn sight better than the situation we have now.
Vote:March 1st, 2010 at 8:08 pm
I do find it odd that three other people have been paroled for the killing of Michael Choy – Joe Edwin Kaukasi (aged 15 at the time), Riki Rapiri (aged 15) and Casi Rawri (aged 20) have been released on parole yet nobody calls for their immediate detention.
Vote:March 2nd, 2010 at 6:24 pm
That’s because Farrar hasn’t yet dangled any bait with their name on it in front of his pit of loony fucktards here. Redbaiter, are you listening?
[DPF: 20 demerits]
Vote:March 2nd, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Oooh, hit me where it hurts!
How many demerits would I get for publicly stating that somebody not convicted of murder is a murderer?
Vote:March 4th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Surly this guy has to be back in jail? Though judges are always giving him one last change. Im sure even if he is found guilty he will get home dentention.
Vote:March 4th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
RRM (1801) Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 4:46 pm
what are you smoking?
1.he exposed himself to women and abused them.
Vote:2.he assaulted them probably sexually as they fled