Some changes to the demerits system
September 4th, 2010 at 5:34 pm by David FarrarI’ve been so busy the last couple of months that I’ve not had time to update the demerits table. This is actually a quite slow process as I was recording the date of every infringement etc.
To make it a more manageable job, I’ve set up a demerits spreadsheet, and will just copy and paste this to the demerits page.
The good news for those with a history of demerits, is I have wiped all current demerits, as I have been failing to keep the table up to date.
At of today, everyone is at zero demerits. However those who have previously has suspensions, still have that history – ie if they get suspended again, it will be for more than one week.
The bad news for those who become abusive or disruptive, is that it is going to be easier for people to report such behaviour:
If you see a comment that you think is highly abusive, then feel free to report it by sending an e-mail to kiwiblogabuse@gmail.com. The e-mail should include a link to the specific comment (if you click on the date/time of the comment, this will bring it up in the address bar).
I do not have time to read every thread, let alone every comment. So your help in maintaining standards is appreciated. I also do not have time to respond to every complaint – they will all be considered, and you’ll see below whether or not I decide demerits are warranted. Generally I won’t respond individually.
I am going to be putting a few minutes aside every evening to review any complaints, and decide if any action is required. The dedicated e-mail address will ensure they don’t disappear in the black hole that is my main inbox.
Tags: Kiwiblog
September 4th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Whoar!
…eh?..
(phool@idiotplace.co.nz)
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Complainants should be identified. Its the way natural justice works, and if they are not, you risk establishing the kind of kangaroo courts run by Joseph Stalin where those sent to the gulags were not permitted to face or question their accusers. I repeat- all complaints should be made public.
[DPF: The complainant are not the prosecutor or accuser. I'm judge jury and prosecutor. Complainants are just like the people who ring the Police to alert them to something. The fact someone complains does not mean I will agree with them the comment deserves demerits. And if someone does keep complaining about the same person, I'll just ignore them]
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
I feel so humble in the presence of greatness that it makes me want to sing.
Quardle ardle wardle doodle.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
“Complainants should be identified.”
You missed out: “and prosecuted to the full extent of the law”.
Don’t worry redcheeks, nobody will complain about you; you’re even funnier than the stupid magpie!
kangaroo courts … Joseph Stalin … gulags – WHAT IS IT IN YOUR HEAD????
Good grief!! ITS A BLOG!!!!!
What a fuckwit.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
Good idea DPF – and simpler to manage makes it more reliable – if people are more sure of getting pulled up, they’ll be more careful.
Red: get a grip. It’s a blog, not a communist state.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
Wow, you sound really upset Davinci. Having a good time today are you?
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
“Red: get a grip. It’s a blog, not a communist state.”
A bit anxious you might be exposed as a serial complainer Paul? Its merely a metaphor that Mr. Farrar could most likely quite easily identify with.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
It doesn’t risk anything like kangaroo courts, it’s DPF’s blog, he can control it how he likes, and anyone can choose to post here, or not. And abuse here, or not. It’s a privilege to use Kiwiblog, not a legal right.
Sounds like a good improvement – keeping it simple.
“I also do not have time to respond to every complaint ”
No need to, it’s your call anyway.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Oh, there’s that well known defender of “rights” and justice Mr. Pete L. George. Its so good to know you’re looking out for all of us Mr. George, and are there for advice when we need it.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
“Having a good time today are you?”
you make every day worth living redpizzle. In fact I’ve now got beer all over my monitor after the natural justice/kangaroo courts/Joseph Stalin/gulags outburst. In fact I’m still chuckling. Your first response – paranoia.
That has to be an all-time classic.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
If you support that degree of openness then you must also support identifying the accused. Why not do away with anonymous posting altogether? Most people are reasonable about non de plumes but some hide behind their handles.
Anyone confident enough they never smear or abuse will have nothing to worry about.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
“In fact I’m still chuckling.”
Wow.. chuckling? Seems to me that you’re really pissed off about something. You’re tone is even more stressed and spiteful than usual. I think you should perhaps forget the infantile and obvious pretense and go outside for a while to cool down.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
Black helicopters are being deployed right now, to visit Big Red One’s bunker system!
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
I think Red will get the most complaints. He’s very quick to play the abuse card. And easy to stir up.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
Tell me the truth, do you actually not see how predictably fucking stupid you are? Do you actually think that I’m the only person who will piss themselves laughing when they see what you said.
Fantastic, and thanks!
[DPF: Warning - the inclusion of the swear word turns the comment into abuse, and will in future get demerits]
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
“I think Red will get the most complaints.”
First one will be from you no doubt you pathetic little whiner and stalker.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
“Tell me the truth, do you actually not see how predictably fucking stupid you are?”
Gee, now you’re sounding even more angry. Watch that blood pressure. BTW, why so anxious to seek out the support of your imaginary like thinkers? Insecurity troubling you worse than usual today is it?
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Guy – too late, he’s already left for his safe tunnel and arms cache in the Ureweras. Not too sure about his choice of location though.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
“you make every day worth living redpizzle.”
You need to bring that obsession up during your next session with your shrink.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
“Guy – too late,”
Quick Guy, response for Davinci please- he’s badly in need of an ally, and you know what happens to his kind if they think they’re on their own.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
I think it’s a great idea I can just see Petty dashing off an email to DPF as his alter-ego—”Disgusted mother of ten”.
Heres the link again Petty.
kiwiblogabuse@gmail.com.
Tattoo it on your hand so you can still see it when you are wanking.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
“Petty dashing off an email to DPF as his alter-ego—”Disgusted mother of ten”. ”
And the next one under another pseudonym- “Concrete plant operator of Motueka”
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
You’re good entertainment Red. It’s got nothing to do with stalking.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
It’s ironic that a topic on “So your help in maintaining standards is appreciated” gets taken over by the usual crap.
Redbaiter, everyone in the Kiwiblog community has a responsibility to help maintain reasonable standards. You are a long term beneficiary of this blog, how about having a go at setting a better example? I’m a relative newbie but happy to have a go at keeping things more civil too.
Johnboy, I thought a break might have helped you grow up a bit. Obviously not. Didn’t you read what DPF is trying to do? Or don’t you care?
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
“It’s got nothing to do with stalking.”
Its got everything to do with stalking. You’re another white knuckled narcissistic psychotic and Redbaiter obsessive like Davinci. who can’t argue his case and relies on adding some witless ad hominem to every discussion in an attempt to draw attention to themselves.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
“Redbaiter, everyone in the Kiwiblog community has a responsibility to help maintain reasonable standards”
Oh wow.. is that so. Thank you so much for explaining it to me Constable George. Now, can you crawl out of the gutter a bit, I’m having trouble hearing you way down there.
BTW, I heard you’re going to take up parachuting. I guess you’re still trying to find that snake’s arse you’ll need to jump out of right?
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
‘I feel so humble in the presence of greatness that it makes me want to sing.
Quardle ardle wardle doodle. ‘
Yeah Johnboy, just a sort of reminder of where the barrier is to stupid.
Meanwhile there is this echo, Pete -Red. Or is it just me hearing things?
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
It was DPF that posted “So your help in maintaining standards is appreciated.” It is his blog you are shitting in.
Vote:All I’m saying is let’s try and respect this.
September 4th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
I have been away up on the mountain improving my mind Petty.
Here is your link for today.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/self-appointed
Feel free to browse all the definitions and pick the one that best suits you.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
“It is his blog you are shitting in.”
Oh wow again, the self righteous Reverand Peter L. George , purveyor of 6,736 posts of poisonous shit that have corroded the readership of this blog as surely as rust corrodes those Ladas his mentors once made.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
hey DPF
shouldn’t those of us who have never had demerits start afresh with some credits?
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Sunday tomorrow, wow! the Earth moved, the devil dodgers will be raving on the day of rest
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
“shouldn’t those of us who have never had demerits start afresh with some credits?”
You’re just lucky there are no demerits for anti Israeli bigotry and pro Hamas propaganda Luc, or you’d be on your four year break by now.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Sounds like a sensible system, I don’t think Fuckwits idea for the complainant to be identified is necessary, as the decision on demerits is DPF’s alone. I’m sure DPF is capable of dealing with any trolls who waste his time with malicious complaints.
[DPF: Use of the term fuckwit will get demerits next time]
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
A nice four year holiday on a Kibbutz would be just the ticket for an earnest young fellow like Luc.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
You’re just lucky there’s no demerits for being a dickhead, Red.
[DPF: Warning abusive terms will get demerits]
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Oh you fat lazy apologist Socialist fuck Farrar, you mean I could have use the word “cunt” in many forms without getting demerits ?
[DPF: 50 demerits]
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
“I don’t think Fuckwits idea for the complainant to be identified is necessary,”
Another serial complainer shitting his pants at the thought his plaintive whining might be made public. BTW Mr. Farrar, is said commenter’s unprovoked use of the word “Fuckwit” (note the capital even) actionable? Maybe, in the interests of purity and decency, you’d like to issue the first complaint Constable Peter L George. Damn outrageous abuse I say.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
“You’re just lucky there’s no demerits for being a dickhead, Red.”
Hahhahahahahahaahahahahh.. oh gawd, the wit is utterly gobsmacking. Ever thought about a go on the X Factor?
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
When did you last get your blood pressure checked Red?
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
If you think that would promote the right sort of standard RB you should use the procedure DPF outlined.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Gazz, I’ll worry about my health thanks, you worry about yours. Don’t forget, next shrink’s appointment, tell him about your Redbaiter obsession. Sounds like its getting worse by the day. Actually, ask Andrew W if he’s got any hints, he’s struggled with the same obsession for years. Dunno even if he’s managed to free himself yet.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
“BTW Mr. Farrar, is said commenter’s unprovoked use of the word “Fuckwit” (note the capital even) actionable?”
You’re supposed to use the email address Fuckwit.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Allo allo allo. Surely that would be Chief Superintendent Peter L George.
A lowly Constibule could not have such an igh opinion of himself as has the said big headed complainant.
By the way wot does the “L” stand for? Is it lefty or is it lowlife?
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
“If you think that would promote the right sort of standard RB you should use the procedure DPF outlined.”
No no, after all that sanctimonious and hypocritical preaching Constable P. L George, it has to be you that sets the standard. Obviously. Who else?
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
“You’re supposed to use the email address Fuckwit.”
“Oh oh oh.. Mr. Farrar- he’s used it twice now, and I’m so badly hurt. Its just not fair. How can we maintain standards with this sort of disgusting and uncivilised behaviour?? Please, its most urgent that action is taken if the good name of Kiwiblog is to be preserved.”
Is that how you do it Andy?
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
This is intreguing (cant be fucked spellchecking)
Will Redbiter use the word “Cunt” as in “Cuntstable”
or will Pete just call Redthingy a “Cunt”
Lets wait and see ( hopefully I will be at 90 by tonight)
[DPF: And another 50 demerits]
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
RB, why would I report something said to you that is not as bad as what you frequently call others? You are being the hypocrite, as well as trying to ridicule what DPF is trying to do here. You must have left your morals and respect in the good old days.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
“Is that how you do it Andy?”
Well I’d guess so, though that does make you sound even more like a whining sniveling Fuckwit than usual, so perhaps something like this:
Dear David, I would like to draw this comment to your attention as I found it offensive.
Vote:(link to offending comment)
September 4th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
“You must have left your morals and respect in the good old days.”
Where ever they are, it would be damn all use sending you to look for them.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Red, I actually welcome points of view that diverge from my own as it challenges me to do further research. Unfortunately, as regards Israel’s supporters here, facts are sadly eschewed in favour of personal abuse.
For example, when I first started reading this blog, I was what is now called a climate skeptic (at odds with my wife!), but in the process of chasing down the science behind the posts of the deniers here, I found that the science is actually on the other side.
And what pro-Hamas propaganda can you point to from me, Red? My empathy is with ordinary Palestinians who just want a just and permanent peace and to get on with their own pursuit of happiness, denied to them by a colonialist occupation. Hamas has the legal right of resistance. It doesn’t have any rights to commit acts of violence against civilians, even those illegally stealing their land. However, I would imagine quite a few here would quickly reach for their guns in similar circumstances!
Now Red, I know this won’t come easy to you, but try to read each of my words in its conventionally accepted meaning and don’t distort.
And let’s get back on topic before we lose 10 pts.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
“Well I’d guess so, though that does make you sound even more like a whining snivelling Fuckwit than usual, so perhaps something like this:”
Man, that is so brave and defiant Andy. Warned not to do it again and you’ve done it twice since. What a rebel.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
uhhhh, successful baiter is successful?
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
“Now Red, I know this won’t come easy to you, but try to read each of my words in its conventionally accepted meaning and don’t distort.”
Sorry Luc, I fell asleep after the first line. Something about all Israelis being murderous bastards or something was it? Can you repeat please?
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
“[DPF: Use of the term fuckwit will get demerits next time]”
Andrew W (1,627) Says:
September 4th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
“BTW Mr. Farrar, is said commenter’s unprovoked use of the word “Fuckwit” (note the capital even) actionable?”
You’re supposed to use the email address Fuckwit.
Andrew W (1,627) Says:
September 4th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Well I’d guess so, though that does make you sound even more like a whining snivelling Fuckwit than usual, so perhaps something like this:
Hurry up then David give him a bundle.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
[DPF: Use of the term fuckwit will get demerits next time]
Humph, only noticed that after my previous comments.
Scratching head about demerits when F******* has used the term so often in the past.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
I just read on the new Demerit thing that Reddy got two weeks, what for ?
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
F*******
That’s much more polite Andy.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
“Humph, only noticed that after my previous comments.”
Oh, and here I was feeling all thrilled at what I imagined was your brave defiance. Another illusion shattered.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
“what for ?”
Its history Rat. I think I bit big Andy on the ankle once.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
Red. Here’s Andy’s photo album:
http://www.google.co.nz/images?hl=en&q=cowardly+lion&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=zPaBTLbaGZy8tAOv5sySBg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CC0QsAQwAA&biw=1077&bih=805
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
“I think I bit big Andy on the ankle once.”
Red’s being modest, it took a shit load of abuse fired at a lot of people for him to get to 200 demerits.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
You complete me Reddy
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Are you all on the booze or are you just silly?
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
“Red’s being modest, it took a shit load of abuse fired at a lot of people for him to get to 200 demerits.”
Oh, and now you’re accusing the host of bias and favouritism. I was mistaken again. You really are as brave as I first thought. You adrenalin addict you.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
On the Gin & IT Mike. Makes me silly.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Bugger, a new Demerits system just when we have all earned an eight month break from that idiot D4J.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Please tell me that does not mean that the parasite Ure is going to be back here?
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
JB, Mine’s a cold one.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
I think his ban ran out a while ago Fot.
Vote:September 4th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Cheers Banana, I am still in awe about Dirty Rat, can anybody else beat being banned in 14 mins?
Vote:September 5th, 2010 at 5:37 am
Think that Kiwiblog’s gorgeous owner does need to consider a cap on contributors postings a month. Some Redbaiters are easily
exceeding their monthly allowance.
There has to be a fair use policy, and also constant and repetitive references to Fox News, Limbaugh, and Commies should also be
taken into account. As should an obsessive yet unrequited love sickness with all things Palin. (I am not talking Michael).
Choppers must have been recalled for now.
Vote:September 5th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Thankyou for washing away my past ‘sins’, DPF – I feel like a new creature
Vote:September 5th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
can anybody else beat being banned in 14 mins?
pfffft…bet i could manage it in 5 if i wanted
Vote:September 5th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
“Bugger, a new Demerits system just when we have all earned an eight month break from that idiot D4J.”
I did wonder who big blouse turned into. Really, get some treatment creep.
Vote:October 18th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
I sincerely appreciate Farrar demerit system.
Vote:Farrar is different then say Trotter and various left blogs.
Trotter bans my computer ID.
and strangely other left wing bloggers do also,