The Nation 3 December 2011

November 30th, 2011 at 7:55 pm by Kokila Patel

Labour Party Leadership Special
We will have David Parker, David Cunliffe and David Shearer with Sean Plunket. They will each be interviewed individually and then join together for a debate on Labour’s future.
We will also have an interview with former British Labour Party front bencher and 1987 Labour campaign director and former University of Waikato Vice Chancellor, Bryan Gould, on his thoughts on the way ahead for Labour.
There may be additions to this lineup which we will advise if they happen!

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13 Responses to “The Nation 3 December 2011”

  1. oldpark Says:

    Invite Goff,as a quiet observer.Heard the big paloka Cunliffe talk about THE CAPITAL GAINS TAX.Sounds like he was the architect.What Labour never said was CGT on family homes would be exempt.Quite right when inherited.Once the inheritor decided to sell CGT would be caught.Cunliffes CGT tax unexplained was just as sneaky as the little wee guy called Parker who lost his electorate seat in Dunedin a couple of elections ago.He has been sucking off the retread tit since.Now Shearer seems to be an enigma.Once i heard him say the horrible pathetic words United Nations,my thoughts about him changed.Clark and Carter left a sinking ship to go to the we know whats best for the world,as long as its not Riwanda or Zimbambe or where ever the hell is in the too hard file.Shearer probably sent to NZ by Clark to regurgitate her social engineering.First time i ever saw a politician swimming towards the sinking ship Clark abandoned.

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  2. Pongo (332) Says:

    Hate to say it but I think we are all being taken for mugs. I reckon labour have already agreed to Cunliffe as leader with pRker as deputy and that this is a marketing job from labour to raise their profile.

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  3. trout (819) Says:

    I doubt that Bryan Gould will have much to offer if his articles in the Herald are any guide. He has become a grumpy old man inclined to eschew real political analysis in favour of pouring vitriol on National and John Key; a reaction I guess to his frustration at not seeing New Zealand become a socialist ‘paradise’.

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  4. jaba (1,924) Says:

    well with Closeup viewers giving a 50% rating to Shearer, I suggest Parker and Cunliffe are both working out to undermine him already

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  5. smttc (409) Says:

    Brian Gould, what a vindictive lefty waste of space.

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  6. niggly (663) Says:

    I’d rather listen to Chris Trotter, even John Pagani any day over Bryan Gould. Sure Trotter and Pagani can be partisan, but sometimes they will give honest criticism (against the Left wing party’s that they support), whereas Gould, like Cunliffe, paints something black when it is clearly white and like Cunliffe drones on and on and on ….

    He’s painful to listen to when on the radio … and his newspaper articles use waffle after waffle to make his point (which unfortunately gets lost in the waffle).

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  7. Nick K (537) Says:

    Bryan Gould is so Rod Oramesque.

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  8. niggly (663) Says:

    Ouch!

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  9. GazzaW (30) Says:

    Oldpark, you have it in one on Shearer.He worked for 14 years for the UN, Ban Kee Mun thought that the sun shone out of his arse, Clark resigns & goes to the UN, Shearer returns to NZ with no political track record & gets handed Mt Albert on a plate & now he makes an unanticipated run for the leadership. It’s all just too cosy. Helen’s puppet?

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  10. ross (1,454) Says:

    Shearer is a close friend of Goff, and FWIW I imagine Goff would want Shearer as leader.

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  11. BeaB (1,609) Says:

    I am so sick of Bryan Gould being roped in as a pundit. His experience with Labour was in Britain two decades ago. He didn’t even make it to the Blair Third Way. What on earth has he got to say to us apart from his jaundiced comments and nasty attacks on John Key?
    Why not invite recent Labour people from NZ – there are plenty to choose from and they will all have ideas, some of which may be worth hearing.

    Shearer has a disturbing nervous tic that makes him look weak and shifty on TV.

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  12. Mark (1,121) Says:

    It is a bit much to expect a right wing blogsite to elicit sensible commentary on the leadership of a left leaning political party. A bit like asking the greens to choose a leader for the Nats or Act. They are all evil but who is the least threatening is the best you can hope for.

    The biggest threat to the Nats is probably Shearer. It would be a risk but then so was Key and not being in the house for more than a termed be helpful. If he was paired up with Shane Jones you may see a fairly strong refocus and a pair who could attract the party faithful back. Jones as deputy Leader would cause the Maori Party huge problems with the retirement of it’s leadership looming in 2014.

    Whilst labour took a pasting but let’s not lose sight of the fact they have the slimmest of margins and a 5% swing is all it will take to roll the current government

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  13. oldpark Says:

    @Mark 340)You are probably right about choosing a Liebor Party new leader.who would want to.It is all perception ,i watched them on Closeup last night.Seemed to me the gang of three were trying to make out they were angels with innocent faces.Choose a new Lie-bor leader?looking at that lot and what lies beneath,i think they are in trouble big time.Best chance they might have is to make the three that were on Close up tri-leaders,would be a first, beats the hell out of the commie greens ,who front as dual leaders.

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