Nutritional information labels for alcohol

October 24th, 2012 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

The Waikato Times reports:

Hamilton Labour MP Sue Moroney reckons if young women knew how many there were in alcoholic drinks they might think twice before getting drunk.

That’s why she wants nutritional information labels for booze added to the Reform Bill.

I understand health groups have said that full nutritional information on alcohol may actually encourage people to drink more as it is basically zero fat etc. However I do think just having a calorie count of alcohol could be beneficial – and not just for young women!

However, her National counterpart, Tim Macindoe, said such amendments were not as important as restricting the supply and marketing of alcohol.

Perhaps, but it is not a case of choosing one or the other. Put it like this – is there a good argument against including calorie information on alcohol, considering almost all other food and drink has it?

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26 Responses to “Nutritional information labels for alcohol”

  1. big bruv (12,359 comments) says:

    Last time I checked it seems that Ms Moron(ey) had failed to follow her own advice.

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  2. Redbaiter (6,480 comments) says:

    FFS, what a nation of morons.

    Over indulgence in alcohol and obesity are cultural problems and best solved by families and individuals, not governments.

    And especially not by same old same old socialist politicians like Sue Moroney and Tim MacIndoe, who with their sad and addictive belief in big government, are more likely to add to any problems we may have than solve them.

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  3. capitald (72 comments) says:

    I would like to know the answer. What a great idea. Absolutely – I don’t see why alcohol should be exempt. I find it very helpful to know what the nutritional information is for my food and drinks. Not a socialist thing at all – simply a market choice.

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  4. Agent BS (10 comments) says:

    I would like to see Caffeine intake included on RTD bourbons. Pretty sure most people would be shocked to see how much caffeine is added, to keep the drinker awake so they consume more.

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  5. bhudson (4,720 comments) says:

    is there a good argument against including calorie information on alcohol, considering almost all other food and drink has it?

    Sure. How about “unintended consequences”?

    Sue Moroney contends that listing the calories might have young drinkers think twice about drinking; that they would reduce drinking to reduce calorie intake.

    I’d suggest it would be more likely to have them think twice about eating anything while they are drinking – so as to keep the total calorie intake down.

    That would lead to worse outcomes, not better.

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  6. Manolo (12,626 comments) says:

    Nanny-statism at its worst. At this pace the shops will be giving out broadsheets full of data next time we buy a burger or a bottle of booze.

    The imbecility of Moroney and MacIndoe is beyond belief. Such a couple of asses and control-freaks in Parliament that prove there is little or no difference between Labour and Labour lite.

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  7. decanker (220 comments) says:

    It’s a good, helpful idea.
    Why would people oppose more information? Providing information for people to make decisions isn’t nanny-statism, if anything it’s the opposite.

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  8. Richard29 (377 comments) says:

    Sensible logical change. Providing consumers with information so they can make informed choices based on their preferences is not nanny statism.

    I think it will change behaviour (although not necessarily how much people drink). I would think the first outcome would be a move towards diet RTD’s – all those bourbon and cola’s, vodka mixers etc have ridiculous quantities of sugar in them and I’m sure half of the target market (young women) would switch to a different drink if they reflected on how many spoons of sugar they were consuming in an average drinking session…

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  9. Grendel (873 comments) says:

    It is nanny statism because its being forced by the state, its pretty simple really.

    suppliers putting that information on becuase they want to, becuase they think it will give them an edge or to catch up with competitors, but with no state force, is not nanny statism.

    its actually not a difficult concept (despite how many of you got it wrong), when the state forces you to do something its statism (or nanny statism, they are basically the same thing), when you do something without force from the state, its not statism.

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  10. unaha-closp (1,033 comments) says:

    Silly, expensive regulatory nonsense that merely duplicates infomation freely available on the internet to everybody. A makework scheme by a useless political hack for more wasteful Wellington bureaucracy.

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  11. Redbaiter (6,480 comments) says:

    “its actually not a difficult concept (despite how many of you got it wrong),”

    Yep, and that so many did confirms my original thesis- a nation of morons.

    That’s what happens when you let the left control education and media.

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  12. Yvette (2,589 comments) says:

    I would recommend two small red framed squares, one above the other, giving in the top one, the alcohol content, and below, the standard drinks the container holds – in Helvetica Neue Condensed Bold 18 pt type.

    As you get older and the eyesight deteriorates, it gets really difficult find and read this essential information to get the best bang you can for your buck [or yourself]

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  13. Ryan Sproull (6,661 comments) says:

    I like the suggestion that women are more concerned about getting fat than they are with, say, liver disease.

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  14. JeffW (303 comments) says:

    The more government takes responsibility, the less responsible the people will be. We see the consequences everyday. Get government out of our lives.

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  15. Andrei (2,430 comments) says:

    Just shows what a bunch of cloth heads we have in the halls of power.

    They can’t actually deal with the real issues the Nation faces so the fuck around with nonsense which plays well with upper middle class twits, which is what they are while the best and brightest leave for greener pastures.

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  16. KiwiGreg (3,129 comments) says:

    Fat hard drinking MPs having the temerity to decide what the rest of us can drink.

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  17. Rich Prick (1,321 comments) says:

    I quite enjoy having a drink without the Government sitting beside me, thank you very much.

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  18. kowtow (6,709 comments) says:

    Stupid .

    Why not have health warning pictures like the shit they put on tobacco?

    To suit those who are worried about what happens to women…….

    Photo of a fat drunk slag,comatose on her back ,dark alley,knickers around one ankle,legs wide open,hairy gash on display. And the slogan “Drinking increases the chances of unintended sperm infusions”.

    Goose/gander.

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  19. Rich Prick (1,321 comments) says:

    kowtow, you clearly have spent too many Sunday afternoon’s in Upper Hutt!

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  20. kowtow (6,709 comments) says:

    RP

    I enjoy a quiet brew and occasional puff of tobacco ,usually ,a long way from the alleged mayhem that seems to spur our dick head pollies,academics,media and health sector wowsers into continuous moral outrage and consequent legislated oppression .I want to enjoy what’s left of life’s simple pleasures without nanny all over it!

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  21. thomasbeagle (78 comments) says:

    I’ve often wondered why alcohol seems to be exempt from the same labelling requirements that food and other drinks must meet. I think it would be great if it included nutritional information.

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  22. TheContrarian (1,043 comments) says:

    It’s not the fat you need to worry about – its all the fucking sugars.

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  23. Viking2 (10,723 comments) says:

    Nearly seven decades of eating and I have yet to look at a food label with the view to deciding if its fat content or calorie count will impact upon my beautiful body.

    That I look for nasites such as preservatives etc is another more important issue and one that was lost in the 80′s but one I am happy to do.

    All this bullshit after listening to a tax person from IRD berating a struggling business person who is behind in paying a small amount of tax. What a fucking abusive process they are running. Basically told him to shut the door and go work for someone else.
    We wouldn’t need to pay all this tax if Key and co rooted out the stupidity and waste in Govt. and reduced the state burden on all of us.
    That could include closing down most of the stupid in Parliament.

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  24. Harriet (4,010 comments) says:

    It makes far more sense to put eating and drinking warnings on size 14 dresses!

    Afterall – and just like alcoholics – fat people first have to ADMIT that it is THEY who have the problem. Not SKINNY fucken people at the bottle shop!

    Every doctor and councilor who help addicts FUCKEN KNOW THAT!

    NZ women are the ‘useful idiots’ for the Labour vote! :cool:

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  25. Paulus (2,296 comments) says:

    Fancy “Fatsie” Moroney being concerned about Calories !
    Don’t do what I do, do what I say – Yea !

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  26. Crampton (213 comments) says:

    The “why not” is here http://offsettingbehaviour.blogspot.co.nz/2012/10/labelling-and-non-tariff-barriers.html

    If we’re determined to have nutritional labels, please ensure an exemption for small-batch products, exempt imported products, and allow simple range-based labelling for “calories from alcohol” (a standard drink has 70 calories from alcohol, 7 calories per gram of alcohol). Requiring full-bore nutritional labelling will kill a lot of the small batch innovation that I love tasting here.

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