Why it won’t be over today
November 20th, 2012 at 12:39 pm by David FarrarWatch this video of Labour List MP Sue Moroney make it very clear that she is only voting for Shearer today, and will consult her members over who to vote for in February. She will not be alone. She refuses to ever say she will keep backing Shearer – just that she is always loyal the leader. That is code for “up until the point he or she goes”.
The video is front interest.co.nz.
Also watch this video of David Parker calling David Cunliffe’s actions at the conference “destructive”.
It is going to be a brutal caucus.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Slow-mo car crash Nov 2012 to Feb 2013. Then over the cliff in November 2014. No survivors. Greens rubbing hands.
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
This is so much like a repeat of Chris Carter’s letter writing to the press gallery.
Perhaps it was him who posted anonymously on The Standard last week. The man’s ‘got form.’
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Shearer needs to go nuclear on the organisation at all levels.
Else he’s toast.
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Really, with this kind of disloyalty so publicly displayed there are only two logical solutions available.
Shearer has to go or those who refuse to back him fully and unconditionally have to go.
It is an impossible situation for Shearer. There is no way he can remain as leader when so many members of his party are publicly threatening to betray him in the near future.
As it is unlikely that the disloyal members can be removed, then there is only one course of action remaining and that is for Shearer to resign. For the sake of his own dignity and self respect.
Otherwise, he just looks like a patsy and a fool.
One would hope that whoever takes his place they have the loyalty that has been denied Shearer.
I wonder if that is at all possible in such a factionalised situation.
Funny that these commie dorks apparently don’t know yet one of the most basic rues in politics, and that is that disunity will never win any party any election.
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Boy. if Shearer wasn’t angry before with one of Cunliffe’s ‘little’ helpers he sure will be now.
Methinks Moroney just talked herself into the job of Chatham Islands spokesperson no less.
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Once upon a time when the leader sensed a threat he had the dissenters shot.
The reason Shearer deserves to go more than anything is that he knew there was a plot months ago, he should have acted and crushed Silent T early, if he didn’t know there was a plot he should have crushed his advisors for stupidity
If Silent T and been put in his place the sycophantic followers would not have gathered because theses are politicians we are talking about and none of them have the courage to follow someone on the outer.
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
He’ll stand down. Shearer can’t rouse this current rabble.
No one can!
Unionists, feminists, marxists, welfare advocates and gays will never agree on sound social policy that also makes sound economic policy.
Tolerance & Diversity in action! : cool:
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
That Chucky Chauvel is a white anting little a-hole.
No party can operate unless its members have some appreciation of the concept of loyalty.
They must be loyal not only to the leader but also the other members.
Chucky is all for Chucky.
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Cunliffe is not the problem – it is the Unions who changed the rules – watch this space come February.
Vote:Expect to see little Little take over with Parker and little pony in support.
Robertson has stuffed himself.
November 20th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Clark must have had a death grip of steel in order to keep such a ragged bunch of oanists heading in one direction.
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Shearer will have known there was a challenge and some of those involved, by joining some dots – Mike Smith knows the identities of The Standard authors and has clearly pointed the finger at some of them for launching the campaign to destabilise Shearer.
Did Cunliffe challenge? Hard to see how he didn’t know or wasn’t involved.
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Shearer has known there has been a challenge building from the moment he didn’t think he was not not connecting
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
There is a magnificent chorale, the music for for which was written by J S Bach. An excerpt from the first verse eloquently describes Mr Shearer.
“Death’s pallor hath come o’er thee,
Vote:The gloss of life decays’
November 20th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
I have no time for politicians who have no conviction and that interview was a classic example. What a weak response from Moroney. No doubt she fits in the cant be trusted category for Shearer.
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
There seems to be a Labour campaign to will the issue away after today:
Or it could just be spontaneous wishful thinking.
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Will Shearer act decisively and cut all the cancer from his caucus? He will not be allowed to do so. Imagine the fratricide that would take place if 11 MP’s were expelled from caucus.
Vote:Plan B is now in play. Rig the list and selection process with Cunliffe loyalists over the next two years, win power in 2014 and then overthrow Shearer the day after the election. The Plan B Coup. A PM appointed by the unions for the unions without the consent of New Zealand.
November 20th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Moroneys just a list Mp one of the unelected make up the numbers useless twats. Wouldnt employ her to put the garbage out. Geeeeez what a load of morons we have down there.
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Mind you great for the RIGHT to be able to watch this train wreck play out. Cause of slient T gets the nod in Feb whose to say there wont be even more trouble cause that boy dont resonate with the citizens. Looks like a prick. Walks like a prick. Is a prick of the highest order.
Kiwis dont like smary pricks.
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
@Fisiani; he’s not going to try and expel even 1 mp, never mind 11. It’d be a suicide to even try. Cunliffe simply has too much support in the party to humiliate him. Wait and see, it’ll be a slap on the wrist nothing more.
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
I agree that why I said he will not be allowed to. It would mean 2 Labour parties emerging from the ashes.
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Unfortunately the caucus should never have elected Shearer as party leader in the first place. He was a default selection and is totally unsuited to the role. The party knows it and enough members of his caucus know it. He should pack it in now. Because regardless of what happens today, come February he is toast.
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Parker, in saying that Cunliffe’s actions are destructive, is being destructive.
Labour better sort their shit out soon or they’ll loose even more electoral ground to rival parties.
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
What’s bad for the left is good for the rest of NZ. Time to stock up on coke and popcorn.
cheers
David Prosser
Vote:November 20th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
DP
Vote:My thoughts exactly – this is a long slow messy trainwreck for which much popcorn and beverages will need to be consumed whilst viewing. John Key must think all his Christmases have come at once.
November 20th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
I don’t think anyone is listening to Aunty Helen anymore, they pretend they are; but they will change at the drop of a hat to grovel for themselves.
Vote:Aint that right Trevor? you are very quiet these days.
What a lot of cork soakers