Dotcom thinks he can be an MP!

September 8th, 2013 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

NBR reports:

now says he canstand for Parliament at next year’s election.

Last week, the Teutonic tech titan told media he was going to form his own political party, and take a run at the ballot box himself – only for Kiwiblog’s David Farrar to dig up Section 47(1) of the , whose citizenship provision seems to clearly ruleout Mr Dotcom.

But iin a new interview published today with the Washington Post, Mr Dotcom says, “When I made that statement, my lawyers were still looking into it, and their preliminary answer was that you can only run as a citizen of New Zealand. But they went through the full several hundred pages of New Zealand election law, and they found that if I’m a permanent resident of New Zealand who’s lived here for more than a year and is a registered voter — which I will be in November — you can run for office. I’ll get more specifics on Tuesday when I sit with my lawyers, but at the moment it looks like I can run myself.”

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48 Responses to “Dotcom thinks he can be an MP!”

  1. duggledog (1,119 comments) says:

    In this country – probably. I mean look at some of the clowns we have in the Green Party for example.

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  2. Judith (5,660 comments) says:

    The silliest thing about this is, if it was possible, he may just get a seat.

    He is very popular among the younger vote, and the rebel vote, add in the John Key haters (those wanting to give JK the finger) and you might have enough to get him there.

    Also don’t forget the ‘none of the above’ vote, like myself – those people who are fed up with the political shinaggins from both Nat, Labour, NZ1st and Greens – what a perfect way to get that message across (although I don’t think I could sleep at night if I took that option).

    I wouldn’t be quick to write him off, if he found a way to run.

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  3. CHFR (195 comments) says:

    Dear God Judith just what New Zealand needs another Winston Peters.

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  4. Judith (5,660 comments) says:

    @ CHFR

    It’s frightening isn’t it – but not totally impossible – sillier things have happened. Dotcom has a certain following that shouldn’t be ignored. I know my ‘just turned 18 year old’ thinks he’s great. Sad part is, that 18 year old can vote, although he still needs his mother to give him pocket money!

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  5. Keeping Stock (9,791 comments) says:

    @ Judith- unless there is a change to the Electoral Act (and why would John Key even consider that?) Kim Dotcom is ineligible to be elected to Parliament; it’s as simple as that. He should find himself a new lawyer.

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  6. Redbaiter (6,482 comments) says:

    This is out of date. Kim Dotcom said last night his latest legal advice was that he cannot stand due to not being a citizen. He has said he will be party president.

    Quote

    “Final legal advice: I cannot run for parliament because I’m not a New Zealand citizen. But I can be Party President. So be it.”

    12:36 AM – 8 Sep 13

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  7. bhudson (4,720 comments) says:

    but not totally impossible – sillier things have happened.

    No they haven’t – Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party have not won any seats in Parliament.

    Which is a about the number of votes a Dotcom Party would pick up.

    It would be worth a Private Bill to create an exception for him just so he could have the opportunity to have reality intrude upon his fantasies.

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  8. Keeping Stock (9,791 comments) says:

    @Redbaiter – so Dotcom is admitting that he jumped the shark; again. He has no credibility whatsoever, especially whilst there is a US jail cell waiting with his name on the door.

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  9. BlairM (2,266 comments) says:

    You have to be a citizen. Doesn’t matter if you have voting rights or not. See Kelly Chal, who actually got elected, but couldn’t take up her seat.

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  10. Harriet (4,010 comments) says:

    He’s probably been watching Clive Palmer and his polls – the fat bastard! :cool:

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  11. peterwn (2,940 comments) says:

    I know the ideal bush lawyer for him – Arthur Taylor. He has an office, but communications and access can be a problem, in particular clients have to visit him, if Arthur’s keepers allow. If Arthur cannot persuade the court to strike down the ‘citizenship’ requirement on homan rights and international conventions grounds then no one can.

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  12. Longknives (4,051 comments) says:

    Dotcom is an odd and contradictory character. That the left have taken him as their ‘Pin-up’ Boy astounds me…

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  13. OneTrack (1,979 comments) says:

    Longknives – “Dotcom is an odd and contradictory character. That the left have taken him as their ‘Pin-up’ Boy astounds me…”

    It doesn’t surprise me at all. They want the government to give them free stuff. DotCom gives them free stuff. And DotCom is in trouble with America. And the left hate America with a passion.

    Seems to be a match made in heaven (or hell).

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  14. Longknives (4,051 comments) says:

    But isn’t he an ‘Evil Capitalist’?? I mean he lives in a pretty big mansion…surely that must be ‘redistributed’?

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  15. Redbaiter (6,482 comments) says:

    “@Redbaiter – so Dotcom is admitting that he jumped the shark; again. He has no credibility whatsoever, especially whilst there is a US jail cell waiting with his name on the door.”

    That is an incorrect use of the expression “jumped the shark”. What you mean is “jumped the gun”.

    I don’t understand your vindictiveness to Kim Dotcom. He was very badly treated by the security forces, and he deserves his day in court as anyone does.

    Key and National are to blame for this due to their poor oversight of the security bureaucracies, and the Hollywood film industry inspired Swat raid on Dotcom’s house was something all NZers who believe in individual rights should be outraged by.

    It was a gross misuse of the law and someone needs to pay. EOS.

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  16. davidp (3,329 comments) says:

    Longknives>I mean he lives in a pretty big mansion…surely that must be ‘redistributed’?

    The Left are big on not allowing foreigners to buy NZ houses. Dotcom rents his. He is a case study for all immigrants, showing them that they’ll have to rent their homes if the Labour-Green-NZ First axis-of-stupidity win the next election.

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  17. gravedodger (1,426 comments) says:

    Kim.Com running, now I would pay to see that, sadly the second lap will not happen due to time and daylight considerations.

    I wonder if the fat F*#k cold waddle more tha one Par four golf hole.

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  18. BeeJay (65 comments) says:

    It could be interesting to have a new party to replace McGillicuddy Serious Party, often voted for, more as a protest than actually expecting an electorate result. Dotcom could call his Party, Humpty Dumpty Party, reflecting his petulant, childish views of the world and presenting a striking resemblance to the Party President.

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  19. Monique Watson (1,062 comments) says:

    Or the Politics is for Clowns Party.

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  20. Liberty (212 comments) says:

    “Key and National are to blame for this”
    Redbaiter you are posting crap. That’s the sort of silly statement you can expect from
    deluded pinkos and Dot.con apologist.

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  21. Redbaiter (6,482 comments) says:

    “Redbaiter you are posting crap.”

    Thanks for the factual rebuttal. I am quite happy swimming against the tide on this. It is fairly obvious that Dotcom needed political support, so I don’t blame him too much for his alliance with a bunch of leftist drongos. He really had no other option.

    At the heart of this issue is the National Party’s drift to the left. If they had been true to their principles they would not be in bed with Hollywood liberals and conducting Swat raids on families and private houses. They would not be supporters of massive government spy networks. They would not be sucking up to Barack Obama.

    I think too many NZ National party supporters are putting politics before reason. Heart before head. The undeniable fact is that Dotcom has been the victim of government illegalities. If your nick means anything you should be supportive of my view, not of the big government statist framework that is at the root of this whole sorry business.

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  22. Alan (922 comments) says:

    It’s a moot point, he’ll be in a federal jail with an orange jumpsuit on well before next years election

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  23. UglyTruth (3,147 comments) says:

    Tell us more about your history of successfully predicting the future, Alan.

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  24. Roflcopter (397 comments) says:

    I hope he does get a party going, and I hope he’s successful… so successful that he gets 2%-3% of the vote.

    That 2%-3% won’t be coming from the right, it’ll be straight from Labour/Green supporters, and totally wasted.

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  25. Liberty (212 comments) says:

    Redbaiter
    The National government didn’t send in the swot team. A government agency did.
    Yes there was a few cockups . Considering this chaps dubious history its hardly worth
    getting ones knickers in a knot over.
    The fact remains at the time the agencies believed they were working within the law.
    Any responsibility belongs to an inept labour government.
    Incidentally Redbaiter it is time you had a look at NZ.general The pinkos have got out
    of their cages and running riot:)

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  26. Redbaiter (6,482 comments) says:

    “Yes there was a few cockups . ”

    So why shouldn’t justice prevail? After all, it should be applied equally to all. (blind)

    And governments and their employees should not be exempt. There is too much of this bullshit about “oh they didn’t intend to do wrong”.

    The fuckers should be walking on eggshells around issues of individual rights and be sent down for long periods if they infringe.

    Doesn’t matter who the victim is, fat German or anyone.

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  27. Keeping Stock (9,791 comments) says:

    Redbaiter said

    I don’t understand your vindictiveness to Kim Dotcom. He was very badly treated by the security forces, and he deserves his day in court as anyone does.

    I agree Red; he does deserve his day in court, and has spoken often of wanting to confront the allegations against him. So why is he fighting extradition with such vehemence?

    If there were allegations against me which I knew were untrue, I would want to confront them as soon as possible. If Dotcom is so confident that he has no case to answer, why does he not surrender to the US authorities and go voluntarily to the US for said day in court? Then the charges against him, if they are trumped up can be dismissed, and he can leave the court, as they say in the British legal thrillers “without a stain on his character”.

    And I agree with you that the raid on him was botched. But when his extradition case is finally heard, that will be irrelevant to the matter before the court here. All that will be decided is whether or not he has a case to answer for which he should be extradited.

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  28. nickb (3,629 comments) says:

    Yes KS, because he is sure to receive a fair trial in the US with the amount of political interference involved……

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  29. Johnboy (13,439 comments) says:

    Dotcom could never be an MP.

    Bellamys havent got a big enough chip fryer to cater for both him and Gerry. :)

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  30. Yoza (1,353 comments) says:

    If mercenaries operating for vast concentrations of foreign capital, like Roger Douglas and John Key, are allowed to be MPs, then why not Kim Dotcom.

    After all Kim Dotcom has done more to draw attention to the abuses of New Zealander’s civil and political rights at the hands of domestic and foreign spy networks than either the National or Labour parties ever managed, if anything National and Labour colluded with these spy networks to undermine our rights to freely express ourselves without worrying about who was monitoring us.

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  31. ChardonnayGuy (1,024 comments) says:

    “No, Mr Dotcom, you are *not* entitled to *two* constituency seats. Either have radical bariatric surgery or shoehorn yourself into one, please.”
    “Mein leiber!!! I bet Gerry Brownlee doesn’t haff to put up with zis!”

    So why doesn’t Dotcom join the Pirate Party..???

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  32. Warren Murray (239 comments) says:

    Question – even if Dotcom cant be an MP, can he be a candidate?

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  33. F E Smith (3,275 comments) says:

    Yoza, the 1930s called and wants its left wing political rhetoric back.

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  34. Liberty (212 comments) says:

    “So why shouldn’t justice prevail?”
    I don’t disagree with you.
    But it’s labour with their leftie Media puppets portraying this chap as pure as the driven snow.
    I take issue with.

    besides Justice is prevailing. Uncle Sam has a nice little room. With a nice thin mattress waiting for him:)

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  35. Johnboy (13,439 comments) says:

    “Yoza, the 1930s called and wants its left wing political rhetoric back.”

    Are you actually one of the Doctors companions FE. ?

    If so….I am sorry I ever tangled with you. :)

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  36. Ian McK (237 comments) says:

    When are we seeing the back of this obese slug?

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  37. PhilP (140 comments) says:

    @ Judith
    “I wouldn’t be quick to write him off, if he found a way to run.”

    Don’t be silly Judith.

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  38. Redbaiter (6,482 comments) says:

    “So why is he fighting extradition with such vehemence?”

    The answer to that is obvious.

    Going by what has occurred to date, the chances of a fair trial in the US are next to zero. And as well likely cost him his fortune. I’d fight it too if I was him.

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  39. Johnboy (13,439 comments) says:

    Surely we should be able to deport him on the grounds that his BMI falls outside appropriate guidelines for future health costs as he ages or does lots of cash trump all the rules? :)

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  40. Yoza (1,353 comments) says:

    F E Smith (2,836) Says:
    September 8th, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    “Yoza, the 1930s called and wants its left wing political rhetoric back.”

    It seems odd that someone who writes on this site claiming to be a defense lawyer actually thinks that people wanting to exchange ideas and communicate freely are ‘left-wing’ because they believe such activity should take place beyond the scrutiny of state spy agencies.

    This is the position you, David Farrar and any number of clones on this blog have adopted in your support for the ongoing harassment of Kim Dotcom at the hands of this country’s and others spy agencies acting at the behest of foreign corporations.

    Please tell me this is what you are getting at with the boring ‘…the ..’s called and wants its …. back’ cliche. ( A lawyer devoid of imagination, who would have thought?)

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  41. Yoza (1,353 comments) says:

    Liberty (157) Says:
    September 8th, 2013 at 1:41 pm


    I don’t disagree with you.
    But it’s labour with their leftie Media puppets portraying this chap as pure as the driven snow.
    I take issue with.

    besides Justice is prevailing. Uncle Sam has a nice little room. With a nice thin mattress waiting for him:)

    Isn’t it odd that people who use pseudonyms such as ‘Liberty’, adhere to political positions that are the antithesis of the word.

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  42. Viking2 (10,744 comments) says:

    Roflcopter (332) Says:
    September 8th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    I hope he does get a party going, and I hope he’s successful… so successful that he gets 2%-3% of the vote.

    That 2%-3% won’t be coming from the right, it’ll be straight from Labour/Green supporters, and totally wasted.
    ============================

    So I wouldn’t be so certain of that.Its the left that are totally corrupted and involved in this from Labour to National.
    A true right wing person believes in individual property rights.
    And individual property rights are up held in a neutral court of law without the need for a Govt. to be involved.
    The claim is that Dotcom infringed the property rights of Hollywood.
    Great, then they can get to court and prove it without the use of the State apparatus. i.e. copywright Law is a civil matter. End of story.

    Hollywood however knows that it can’t so enlisted the FBI to trump up a laundry charge. How juvenile. And because the evil Barrack requires Hollywood to remain in power, the State did his bidding.

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  43. Redbaiter (6,482 comments) says:

    Sometimes you amaze me Viking.

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  44. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    How many people even knew Dotcom lived in NZ until the Apocolypse Now scene took place?

    V2 I think your summation regarding the German may be a tad over simplified -

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  45. Keeping Stock (9,791 comments) says:

    Going by what has occurred to date, the chances of a fair trial in the US are next to zero. And as well likely cost him his fortune. I’d fight it too if I was him.

    It’s not up to New Zealand to tell another country how to run its judicial system Redbaiter. From what I read on the lengthy indictment handed down in the Dotcom et al case, I’d say that he has a pretty solid case to answer.

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  46. Viking2 (10,744 comments) says:

    Like things simple Paul. Makes it easy for those who struggle to understand.
    Most people, especially lawyers and politicans, tend to make stuff much more complicated than it is. Kinda like justifying their salary and endeavouring to make themselves look intelligent when really they are not. policeman do the same.

    KS. we have policemen that do the same. Does Ellis, Watson et al sound familiar?

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  47. Viking2 (10,744 comments) says:

    Redbaiter (4,584) Says:
    September 8th, 2013 at 6:12 pm

    Sometimes you amaze me Viking.

    you should listen more often then :lol:

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  48. Duxton (546 comments) says:

    Judith – Why on earth would an 18 year-old need pocket money?

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