Labour campaigning on the big issues of where you can eat your lunch

December 6th, 2013 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

A MP has accused Kapiti Expressway workers of being “extremely offensive” to Maori by eating their lunch at a wahi tapu site as historical human remains lay nearby.

Darien Fenton said at a transport and industrial relations select committee meeting yesterday that the workers were spotted eating their lunch at the wahi tapu site at El Rancho, Waikanae, which includes the Takamore urupa, and a macrocarpa known as the Maketu tree.

You’re not allowed to have a sandwich under a tree now?

Ms Fenton told the committee she had spoken to two women from Te Ati Awa. “[They] understood the site was tapu until the archaeologists had finished their work, yet we found workers having lunch onsite which was extremely offensive to local Maori.”

Speaking later, she said that seeing workers eating on the sacred site, with recently discovered human remains from the burial site nearby, had shocked her.

We had better ban food from all areas in NZ where someone is buried. The Savage Memorial for a start.

“The simplest way to put it is . . . [people] should treat it like you’d treat a church, the sacredness of the church. The land is sacred in the same way to us.”

You can’t eat in church now? What about all that bread and wine?

NZTA Wellington Highways manager Rod James said the particular area at El Rancho fell under the jurisdiction of the Takamore Trust.

The site was not identified by the “mandated iwi” as tapu, they had written authorisation to start work at that particular site, and two iwi earthworks monitors were present, he said.

“Workers were assembling to be briefed by iwi and the archaeologist. We are not aware of any concerns about conduct from the mandated iwi.”

Good to see Labour focusing on the big issues of the day!

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43 Responses to “Labour campaigning on the big issues of where you can eat your lunch”

  1. alex Masterley (1,438 comments) says:

    What, pray tell is an “iwi earthworks monitor”?
    Is it a step up from a lunch monitor?

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  2. Ashley Schaeffer (336 comments) says:

    As I said in GD, they’re ploughing an expressway through the area but the workers had better find somewhere else to eat.

    Fenton is a fuckwit of the highest order.

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  3. rangitoto (144 comments) says:

    Monterey cypress from California is sacred to Maori now?

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  4. Rich Prick (1,320 comments) says:

    That’s evidence she’s still addled.

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  5. Fentex (656 comments) says:

    The stupid thing here isn’t the opportunity to make snide remarks about how much one doesn’t care about offending other people but the apparent irrelevance of picking an issue where the supposed offenders are simultaneously reported as working respectably with people responsible for ensuring offence is not given.

    If there was a real reason to think someone was being careless and insulting then maybe there’d be a point to raise, but when the workers in question are working with locals who are happy with their behaviour how stupid is it to speak up about an already settled matter and loudly proclaim you’re wasting everyone’s time and gifting opponents ammunition to belittle you?

    I despair of the absence of political nous in New Zealand’s opposition. I’d like a credible choice of parties on election day please.

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  6. woodburner (21 comments) says:

    So much for the party that stands up for the workers…

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  7. NK (916 comments) says:

    Fenton is a silly trout.

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  8. Rich Prick (1,320 comments) says:

    Alex, the “iwi earthworks monitor” is a highly koha’ed but otherwise unemployable person who’s job it is to keep an eye out for taniwha. Once spotted, things get seriously expensive.

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  9. alex Masterley (1,438 comments) says:

    RP, Thanks for clearing that one up.
    I bet these “IEW’s” get pretty hi viz vests and hard hats to blend in with the common workers so they are hard to spot.

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  10. simpleton1 (127 comments) says:

    aM… “and two iwi earthworks monitors were present”

    “Is it a step up from a lunch monitor?”
    The lunch monitor was never paid, only ” the honour and glory ”

    The “iwi monitors” from usually the local iwi to watch and observe for bones, “hangi stones” and any artifacts and etc… . When anything is spotted or found then they have the authority that all work must cease and notifications are sent to officials that send archaeologists etc. to investigate.

    All consultations, time involved, koha, wages, fees and costs are charged to the contracting company.
    Often this is inserted into consents and done thru the auspices of the RMA act and other sleight of hands so every thing can comply.
    After all every thing must be legitimate, all the i’s dotted and t’s crossed and absolutely no room for corruption.

    Not to worry as Kiwiblog’s next post shows that we are the most anti corruption country in the world.

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  11. simpleton1 (127 comments) says:

    “pretty hi viz vests and hard hats to blend in” and you would never notice, as they blend in well picking up the pay check too.

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  12. Cunningham (746 comments) says:

    Good grief, hard to find the words to describe the pathetic bunch of losers that the Labour party has become. I would be absolutely ashamed to be a Labour party member at the moment. As has been said previously, NZ deserves a more competent opposition than this.

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  13. tvb (3,941 comments) says:

    Darien Fenton is so stupid she probably thinks the macrocarpa tree is native to New Zealand. The Trollope should concentrate on more substantive issues.

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  14. Sidey (230 comments) says:

    If Colin Craig announced a policy initiative to end this sort of crap he might find enough support among the non-gravy-train-aligned populace to get over the 5% threshold.

    Unless he’s too busy to personally investigate if taniwha exist, and until then he couldn’t possibly form an opinion as to whether or not they exist.

    Something for the new ACT leader to get their teeth into?

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  15. doggone7 (487 comments) says:

    Darian Fenton is no more stupid than the headline. Turning what happened into saying “Labour is campaigning on where you can eat your lunch” is pathetic.

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  16. BeaB (1,948 comments) says:

    Apart from the total idiocy of the whole situation, why does Darien Fenton think it’s classy to put the boot into workers.
    Isn’t she Labour?

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  17. Judith (5,660 comments) says:

    I don’t think I’d be all that impressed if a bunch of workers decided to have their lunch on my grandfathers’ remains either.

    It’s about respect – however, they may not have realised the origins of the site they were lunching in. Certainly not a Labour issue, but then, when you’re sitting around waiting for the throne, I guess life gets a bit boring.

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  18. simpleton1 (127 comments) says:

    All jokes aside, we really do need an effective opposition, to question thoroughly, not ideologically, so Parliament would pass the best legislation, that is if needed, which is another issue.

    Not just carpet baggers trying to look busy chasing non issues, and placating voters and building a gold plated superannuation scheme

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  19. wrightingright (132 comments) says:

    WTF WTF! :-o

    Ok, another big difference between a church and outside under a tree:

    “outside” is an awfully HUGE area! Maori could restrict massive swathes of areas. Well a church is naturally restrict by the efforts it take to build the size of the building.

    Another huge difference: a church is private property!

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  20. mandk (692 comments) says:

    @ Judith,

    When I die, I would be pleased to think that a couple of working blokes were resting on or near my grave to grab a bite to eat.

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  21. Sofia (780 comments) says:

    The site was not identified by the “mandated iwi” as tapu, they had written authorisation to start work at that particular site, and two iwi earthworks monitors were present, he said.
    “Workers were assembling to be briefed by iwi and the archaeologist. We are not aware of any concerns about conduct from the mandated iwi.”
    Mr James said archaeological sites were excavated under supervision of senior archaeologists from Otago University. The protocols were approved by the Historic Places Trust and under constant iwi supervision.

    Considering these last three sentences of the article, I wonder why the fucking issue was ever mentioned.

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  22. radvad (620 comments) says:

    And we think Colin Craig is crazy. I suppose she believes in taniwha also.

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  23. MH (558 comments) says:

    Is Mike Smith’s chainsaw (One Tree Hill) not working?

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  24. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    But she invoked the magic word “OFFENDED”.

    She has a right to now tell us what we can and can not say, and what we can and can not do. Many on KB are strongly in support of preventing people being offensive.

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  25. wiseowl (576 comments) says:

    Well Sidey you’re in luck.

    It is the intention of the Conservative Party to get rid of this shit .They will get great support on this alone.

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  26. Steve (North Shore) (4,323 comments) says:

    Dopey bint will do anything to get the Medias’ attention and a photo published.
    The lefties have the cheek to call John Key ‘smile and wave’ he has nothing on these Liabour whores

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  27. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    I think most folk are pretty respectful of other peoples cultures and beliefs in day to day life. What this womin is demanding is deference and subjugation to Maori as the dominant culture. Most Maori are not like that and understand that the rest of us have different ways. Political/social debates aside, we generally get along in the real world.

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  28. mandk (692 comments) says:

    @ Kea
    Given that we are talking about road workers, there is a good chance that they were Maori themselves.
    I’m sure that many Maori would be offended by Fenton claiming to be offended on their behalf.

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  29. tas (527 comments) says:

    Reminded me of this. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/7545556/Playdough-use-offends-some

    Clear proof that anything can be considered offensive

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  30. Odakyu-sen (248 comments) says:

    But what if the remains are of those who were once mortal enemies of the iwi that the monitors hail from? Are all bets off then?

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  31. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    mandk , good point. I never thought of that.

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  32. Sadu (123 comments) says:

    Clearly a third iwi earthworks monitor is required to prevent a tragedy of this magnitude from happening again.

    Seriously though – if they have 2 staff onsite whose only job is to watch out for tapu burial sites and taniwha – and they still manage to fuck it up? What more could you do?

    Sounds like the 2 iwi earthworks monitors need to actually do their job. Just sayin…

    And fuck knows what Fenton is trying to achieve here. I don’t see how pursuing this is going to score points against John Key, or impress the working class man?

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  33. noskire (797 comments) says:

    Perhaps Darien Fenton should shift her focus from those already dead to the currently alive young and vulnerable iwi who are getting abused and battered, and frequently murdered, on a daily basis. That is offensive.

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  34. Harriet (4,010 comments) says:

    I’ve seen plenty of drunken homeless Maori drinking piss in Central City Church yards and graveyards – and it’s not like they would go elsewhere to take a piss either!

    Fuck the racist Darien Fenton, Fuck Dead Maori, and Fuck Hypocritical Live Maori! :cool:

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  35. MT_Tinman (2,791 comments) says:

    What’s the bet those observed eating at the site were the iwi (whatever the hell that is) inspecters feeding their faces while the real workers worked?

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  36. RF (1,129 comments) says:

    Dear God. The old boiled boot Fenton is seeking publicity.

    I have seen Maoris using a local cemetery as a venue for a piss up and open toilet. Next morning it was a cess pit with KFC boxes, broken bottles, heaps of beer cans and shit.

    Dirty low life scum sucking bastards with double standards. Must be labour members.

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  37. MH (558 comments) says:

    A list of pre approved eating sites for non indiginous peoples is avaiable at Aukland Council offices during normal working hours.Please state if Muslin Cloth believer for GPS Mecccano orientation via 4 G technology. If you need to eat immediately please contact Beaven_Chew-on@tannyfarblue.commie
    Any unconsumed conficated food if not reclaimed under Ti tree Treatey within 5 days wiil be sold to low docile schools to defray costs.

    This has been a part political message on behalf of the Labour Party: Approved by Mmme Fenton Monitor Inspectorate.

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  38. RightNow (6,338 comments) says:

    Darien Fenton said at a transport and industrial relations select committee meeting yesterday that the workers were spotted eating their lunch at the wahi tapu site

    Really, this gets raised in a select committee? Don’t they have anything important to discuss?

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  39. BlairM (2,266 comments) says:

    It seems to me that this is an issue that has no reason to be national news, any more than if I saw someone having a picnic near my grandparents’ graves. I’d simply be polite to them, point out my grandparents nearby, and ask if they could conduct themselves somewhere else out of respect. I suspect 99% of people would comply with that.

    Why does it need to go to the level of an MP complaining about it? She is simply trying to stir up trouble for the sake of votes.

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  40. Manolo (12,626 comments) says:

    Is Fenton Miss Dim reincarnated?

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  41. keuboi (4 comments) says:

    This is not a political or religious issue, but more a cultural issue. I’m sure the workers involved never intended to offend so really this issue should not have reached the political tier that it had. Although in reading some of these comments, it would be nice if NZer’s were better informed of the cultural significance that we hold, but sadly that is not the case. Whether you are maori or not, the maori culture is still part of this land we all call home & so we should protect it. I’m sure if you were anywhere overseas, the people of that land would expect you to respect their culture as well?

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  42. Left Right and Centre (2,393 comments) says:

    Maori find everything culturally insensitive except handouts.

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  43. deadrightkev (178 comments) says:

    “Good to see Labour focusing on the big issues of the day!”

    While we are giving this horrible Fenton thing a (much deserved) kick in the slats spare a thought for the other socialist party that is handing over the birth rights of every Kiwi to a small select few monthly without the slightest check or balance from the taxpayer. Fenton is just plain mental but what does that make Chris Finlayson? In my books he is twice the villain.

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