Shane Jones leaves Labour to take up job for National Government

April 22nd, 2014 at 6:11 pm by David Farrar

3 News has reported that will leave Parliament as early as next month. He has accepted an appointment by National to be the Pacific Economic Ambassador.

This is a huge blow to . Jones had a rare ability to connect with working class New Zealanders, and his decision to abandon before the election can only be taken as a vote of no confidence in .

It will be fascinating to learn of how the job offer and acceptance came about. For my 2c, its good to see Jones take up a role where he can do some good for New Zealand and the Pacific.

But Labour will be reeling from losing not just their 5th highest ranked MP, but someone who less than a year ago wanted to lead the Labour Party – and is now bailing out on it.

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134 Responses to “Shane Jones leaves Labour to take up job for National Government”

  1. big bruv (13,559 comments) says:

    Quick, replace him with a gay or union hack, that’s what the public want.

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  2. nasska (10,910 comments) says:

    Put a spin on that Clint. :)

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  3. Redbaiter (8,022 comments) says:

    He’s got a future as the next Nat’s leader.

    More right wing than John Key.

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  4. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    Unusual to see him go at this stage – the Labour leadership could well be vacant again soon. Perhaps he figures that he would never have enough membership support for the top job. Perhaps he also feels the new role is his best chance to make a contribution.

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  5. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    What will the arrogant Silent T have to say? It will be a joy to watch the socialists scrambling to find excuses.

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  6. OneTrack (2,818 comments) says:

    mike – He isn’t gay, he isn’t a wimmin and he doesn’t do “bro” talk. Obviously he has now realised the sisterhood were never going to let him take the leadership so it was time to move on. Labour’s loss.

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  7. Fisiani (994 comments) says:

    Shame that Shane has been forced to leave Labour seeing no future for reasonable people like him. Glad that he will get a cushy lifeboat. Watch for the exclusion of other centrist Labour MP’s especially those on the List.

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  8. Positan (385 comments) says:

    Clark’s legacy comes to fruition.

    Every remaining Labour MP has been there primarily to screw as much for themselves out of the system as soon as, and for as long as, they could. There’s nothing like leadership or anything remotely approaching it, and there’s nothing in the substance of the remaining ranks that would respond to leadership.

    Good on Jones – I can respect his decision to act as he has – but, for the rest of his former compatriots, there’s only oblivion awaiting in the wings.

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  9. geoff3012 (56 comments) says:

    Bloody hilarious………

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  10. tvb (4,255 comments) says:

    There are people in Labour who had high hopes for Jones that he would take the party back. But the network that got control of Labour during Helen Clark’s time wold never let him win the Leadership. This will damage Labour. Jones is sending a signal that he does not see Labour winning the election otherwise he would stay on as a Senior Minister on reasonable pay.

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  11. Tinshed (117 comments) says:

    Absolute masterstroke by National. Takes Jones out of the equation, will lead to more Labour in-fighting and all the while National can play this as being the “best person for the job” and serving the best interest of all New Zealanders, etc.

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  12. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,833 comments) says:

    I reckon the recent selection of a further gaggle of poofter candidates would have been the tipping point. He must have watched in horror.

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  13. Elaycee (4,332 comments) says:

    It was a hoot watching the news break on TeeVeeOne…. left cheerleader Corin Dann had a face like a horse eating thistles and Bernadine Oliver-Kirby spoke as if she had swallowed a dead rat.

    But no mention by anyone of a ‘Pacific Economic Ambassador’ role – just an oblique reference that Jones was seeking a role in Fisheries.

    Hard not to laugh… but you can’t help it! :lol:

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  14. mjw (352 comments) says:

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  15. lolitasbrother (588 comments) says:

    coup

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  16. stever (26 comments) says:

    Um 2 things. Wasn’t April fools day weeks ago or did I read this right . He’s quitting politics for a cushy govt job. If so what a great tactic of John Keys. Offer a cushy job to labours only sensible candidate. Good work

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  17. mjw (352 comments) says:

    stever – but he didn’t use his own money. He used taxpayer money. On what planet is that ok?

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  18. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (837 comments) says:

    Hold on a little rich pricks. Just spoke to Matt the Chief and Manning the Deputy. They are saying this is good for Cunliffe.

    1. No more competition for Cunliffe. He will be the leader for life
    2. Now Cunliffe can officially put on “bro” accent and speak in Maori without any fear
    3. Jones is a list MP
    4. Now that he is part of National setup, Labour will throw more mud on him
    5. No more porn jokes – Labour is clean now

    Our internal polling shows a sudden jump of 5% in popularity. We are at 39% now. Good news

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  19. Peter (1,664 comments) says:

    The colossal personality of Cunners will carry them through.

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    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  21. RF (1,343 comments) says:

    SCS. 7pm….. Nice one. I spilt my bloody wine….

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  22. NK (1,133 comments) says:

    Jones is about the only Labour MP worth voting for. It’s really funny how the Mallards, Kings et al of this world hang on for dear life, as stale as, and the relatively fresh and intelligent Jones buggars off.

    That speaks absolute volumes.

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  23. Tinshed (117 comments) says:

    Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

    You have a new job as a Tui billboard writer?

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  24. big bruv (13,559 comments) says:

    NK

    There is one Labour MP who I reckon is a good bloke and that is Damien O’Conner.

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  25. Unity (411 comments) says:

    Good on Shane Jones. He was the voice of reason and he will be much better out of that toxic Party full of fluffy PC people. For me that’s the end of Labour or at the very least they are going to struggle now more than ever. A vote of no confidence in Cunliffe in my view.

    Amazing how National has snaffled him up though. Is that really right? The news was vague and didn’t mention a specific job for him within National. I’m sure all will be revealed soon.

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  26. deadrightkev (340 comments) says:

    As one more vaguely normal Labour MP steps off the Titannic.

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  27. Shazzadude (522 comments) says:

    The silver lining in the cloud for Labour is that Kelvin Davis is back in parliament.

    If the gays and feminists can step aside and let this man shine, it could be a big plus for them.

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  28. Tom Jackson (2,519 comments) says:

    left cheerleader Corin Dann

    I didn’t know that Dann had a doppelgänger.

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  29. lolitasbrother (588 comments) says:

    yes it is clear now about the personality of Cunliffe, and this years election. 2014 clear NZ Nat Government
    I often wonder where he will flee too, the Cunliffe,
    go now Cunliffe you fool and try not to remember
    that dog Geoff Palmer NZ, in the 1984 Government,
    he never saw he was a disgrace, , and he lingers here,yellow tooth garbage
    goodbye Dave Cunliffe take your home money and leave now forever we despise you

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  30. Chris2 (768 comments) says:

    Jones is rare amongst Labour MP’s in that he has pre-parliamentary skills that allow him to earn a living outside Parliament.

    I’m struggling to think of any previous serving Labour MP who has quit without being forced out due to defeat, scandal, or to establish their own party, but would be grateful to know of any, apart from maybe Mat Rata who resigned on a principal and forced a by-election which he lost.

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  31. davidp (3,557 comments) says:

    On one hand, Cunliffe disliked Jones. The rest of the Labour caucus disliked Jones because he wasn’t gay, a union hard man, or both. And Russel Norman both hated Jones and made an official complaint about him to Cunliffe, like a nasty little tattle tale running off to his teacher.

    On the other hand, Wira Gardiner supported Jones and gave him $1000 to support his leadership bid.

    So is it any surprise Jones figured out who his real friends are?

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  32. Colville (2,190 comments) says:

    I would have bet that Jones would have gone to WinstonFirst to spite Cun*liffe.

    Pity ;-)

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  33. big bruv (13,559 comments) says:

    Watch the scum left wing media try and spin this into some sort of scandal involving the Nat’s. I can just imagine how the hacks (Dann, Gower and Gower) are working out how to best spin this for Labour.

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  34. doggone7 (755 comments) says:

    Dead right deadrightkev. So far as I know (sometimes my fancy electronic scoring device doesn’t work properly) the score’s 15-1 in MPs stepping off.

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  35. J Mex (184 comments) says:

    New post at The Standard incoming…

    “We have always been at war with Shane Jones”

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  36. Tom Jackson (2,519 comments) says:

    from maybe Mat Rata who resigned on a principal

    I’m guessing the reason for his resignation must have been that the principal he was on wasn’t his wife.

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  37. Tom Jackson (2,519 comments) says:

    “We have always been at war with Shane Jones”

    Given the preponderance of ugly, flat-chested lesbians at the Standard, Jones’ predilection for big boobed porn stars probably rubbed them up the wrong way.

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  38. publicwatchdog (2,290 comments) says:

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  39. Tom Jackson (2,519 comments) says:

    Right you are, Penny.

    You’re a diamond.

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  40. big bruv (13,559 comments) says:

    Yes Penny, I bet he even pays his rates.

    Why don’t you give it a crack?

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  41. OneTrack (2,818 comments) says:

    bb – “There is one Labour MP who I reckon is a good bloke and that is Damien O’Conner.”

    What number is he on the list again? Do you know if he be standing for West Coast-Tasman again this year? Or has he been manbanned out?

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  42. Tom Jackson (2,519 comments) says:

    Yes Penny, I bet he even pays his rates.

    You pay Jones’ rates.

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  43. Tom Jackson (2,519 comments) says:

    We need to start a “Jokers’ Party”.

    State subsidised beer and black singlets; ritual hazing of poofs; wet T-Shirt contests; and all live rugby on Freeview.

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  44. Than (440 comments) says:

    Incredible how thick and fast the excuses are coming.

    This is a massive statement of discontent by one of Labour’s most prominent MPs, and no amount of desperate spin changes that.

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  45. bc (1,353 comments) says:

    Whoah, I wasn’t expecting that. What a crazy year for politics – and it’s only April.

    A bit of “fomenting happy mischief” with the headline though, DPF. Makes it sound like he’s defected to National, until you read the details and realise that he’s only taken a government position.

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  46. Viking2 (11,276 comments) says:

    TV one and Dear Corrin, This was out of nowhere.
    don’t think so. Its been rumoured for a couple of weeks.

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  48. Monty (966 comments) says:

    I want to hear his side of the kiss and tell. That is what labour will hate the most.
    My guess one of the reasons for Shane jones leaving was that he could not stand Cunliffe.

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  49. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    Now we know who Krim.Dotcon spurned for the luv of Hone! :)

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  50. Southern Raider (1,748 comments) says:

    I like Damian O’Connor as well and was thinking in the weekend what a master stroke it would be if National pulled their West Coast candidate and got Damian to jump ship. He would romp in on electorate vote but more importantly probably bring National a large upswing in party vote

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  51. Nostalgia-NZ (5,045 comments) says:

    Things have changed. Jones may have considered that jerking off in a motel room meant that he might never become leader because the party didn’t approve of his personal intimacy. Apparently jerking off another bloke in a motel room might have been different.

    It was only a few weeks ago that Cunliffe and Jones were seen hauling in a waka during a storm at Waitangi. I thought that was symbolically significant. What I didn’t know was that Mc Cully was in on the act and had an tie around the ankle of the soon to be ex Labour member from the North. Good fishing.

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  52. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,833 comments) says:

    It appears Sir Wira Gardiner is being credited with much of the ground work here.

    You don’t make Lt Colonel if you are a mug.

    Well done, Sir Wira.

    Labour never really understood Maori and never will.

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  53. Tom Jackson (2,519 comments) says:

    So is Jones quitting to be the new Man U manager?

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  54. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    Know that for a fact Nostalgia or just taking another shot in the dark? :)

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  55. Keeping Stock (10,177 comments) says:

    Hey Clint; are we pleased about that?

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  56. thor42 (971 comments) says:

    This is *great* news!

    If Labour loses the election, dump Cunners and put in Robertson that will only reinforce their status as the “gaggle of gays” party. Their Pasifika vote (at the very least) should plummet as a result.

    It now looks as if Damien O’Connor is the only vaguely centrist person left in Labour. He too (like Jones) is in the wrong party. How can he make that “gaggle of gays” statement but still stay with the party? Why on earth he wants to stay with such a bunch of losers is a mystery.

    Labour have been hollowed out like an Easter egg!
    Woohoo!

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  57. tvb (4,255 comments) says:

    Labour’s attitude to maori is take the welfare cheque and the vote Labour and SHUT UP and let the white boys run things. They will fling in the odd portfolio like Maori affairs but they will never give their Maori MPs anything serious.

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  58. Northland Wahine (659 comments) says:

    tvb summed it up in a nutshell… Here’s your money now there, there, be a good darkie and hush.

    As for Jones? Damn clever bastard and if he had got of his lazy arse years ago, he may have been the leader of Labour, even possibly leader of the government. However life is full of what ifs and could have beens.

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  59. wat dabney (3,721 comments) says:

    Penny was right all along.

    Talk about political corruption: using taxpayers’ money to pay-off the de-facto leader of the opposition.

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  60. Tinshed (117 comments) says:

    geoff3012
    od your full of it DPF. You’ve been saying more Labour MP’s should stand aside and the party needs rejuvenation and here it is.

    Dickhead!

    I know you are trolling and not at all very well, but I am in generous mood tonight so will rise to your albeit poorly presented bait: it is not rejuvenation when you leave your party for a new role, without much if any warning, created for you by the party of government. Especially if you are a high ranking MP who recently fought a good fight for the leadership of your party. And even more so if you have given the strong impression that you are at best uncomfortable with much of your party’s membership and power brokers. No, that’s not rejuvenation, that’s looking after number one and bugger your Party.

    And let’s be clear, this isn’t really about Shane Jones at all. It is about John Key taking a very sharp and pointy stick and poking it very firmly and resolutely in the eye of David Cunliffe. Welcome to the thunderdome, David!

    And lastly, please don’t call DPF a dickhead. It is unbecoming.

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  61. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    I hope Shane never spent Wira’s $1000 down at Video Ezy.

    No wonder he never had the strength to put up a good fight against Chinless and Pinky! :)

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  62. greenjacket (436 comments) says:

    big bruv: “There is one Labour MP who I reckon is a good bloke and that is Damien O’Conner”

    You have obviously never met him. Damien O’Connor might be a “good bloke”, but he is also as thick as a plank.

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  63. Auberon (873 comments) says:

    Yes, the funniest thing so far was watching Corin Dann do a live cross about his beloved Labour Party crumbling before his eyes, having just been scooped by TV3. He seemed genuinely heartbroken. Made my day.

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  64. wiseowl (827 comments) says:

    I feel sorry for Damian O’Connor.

    He is going to be very lonely now and maybe if he goes Labour is history.

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  65. Viking2 (11,276 comments) says:

    About the poll
    The Daily Blog Poll

    April Poll: What party will you likely vote for at this year’s General Election?

    Green Party (33%, 381 Votes)
    Labour Party (24%, 269 Votes)
    National Party (17%, 193 Votes)
    Mana Movement (12%, 136 Votes)
    Internet Party (5%, 54 Votes)
    ACT (3%, 38 Votes)
    New Zealand First (3%, 35 Votes)
    Conservatives (2%, 22 Votes)
    United Future (1%, 8 Votes)
    Maori Party (0%, 6 Votes)

    Total Voters: 1,142
    - See more at: http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/04/22/shane-jones-resignation-labour-dodge-a-bullet-the-greens-smile/#sthash.DMMetppi.dpuf

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  66. martinh (1,164 comments) says:

    Sucked Labour, you get what you deserve.
    Hopefully they drop as low as Bill English got National too

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  67. martinh (1,164 comments) says:

    Auberon,

    Yeah i saw that too, he looked dumbfounded

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  68. CharlieBrown (925 comments) says:

    I was hoping he would be the next prime minister for when National inevitably gets voted out of office, that is a shame for NZ as he does seem to be honest and capable of bringing NZ back to the center.

    On a side note, the comments section on Stuff over the matter really confirm that ultra lefties have invaded the free newspapers comments sections. I hardly even bother reading the herald and Stuff’s comments as they are so feral and left wing and hardly show a representation of actual NZ. I know I’ve added a few over the months that dissent from the majority of views shown and they almost never get posted. The quality of both major newspapers are also following the quality of the people they let post. Its why I now read the NBR instead where intelligent and well thought out comments and articles are written, even though half the time I disagree with them.

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  69. Tom Jackson (2,519 comments) says:

    Is Bedwetter banned from Kiwiblog again?

    I see he’s over at the Standard spreading manure.

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  70. David Garrett (6,774 comments) says:

    Have a look over at the Stranded…it’s like one of those Eastern bloc countries 30 years ago where Honoured Comrade became Traitor to the Working Class overnight, and your picture gets cut out of group shots of the Politburo…too funny.

    And whoever said O’Connor is the only Labour MP left to have any real connection to the working class is spot on…and the gaggle of gays he referred to will prevent him going anywhere when they finally get into government…

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  71. Viking2 (11,276 comments) says:

    You read the Standard. Labour Camp for you.

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  72. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    Don’t be depressed CharlieBrown. Lefties are unemployable so have all day to fill the Herald and Stuff with their shit while the real folk only get to comment later at night after we have payed our tax bill to keep the shit in smokes, pot and a broadband connection! :)

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  73. big bruv (13,559 comments) says:

    There is a glimmer of hope for Labour out of all of this though. At least they get Kelvin Davis back into the house.

    I know it will not make any difference this time around and that Davis faces a huge fight to reach the top but they (Labour) finally have a man who could be PM in the house. Of course for Davis to actually become leader and perhaps PM one day he will have to totally rebuild the party, turf out the union hacks, reduce the number of gays and start wining back the working mans vote.

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  74. big bruv (13,559 comments) says:

    Greenjacket

    “but he is also as thick as a plank.”

    You have just described the entire Green party, does not stop them being in the house.

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  75. David Garrett (6,774 comments) says:

    BB: Kelvin Davis is a fine guy…but you have to question his judgment in sticking with Labour given that the Sisterhood gave him an unwinnable list place last time…You have succinctly listed the problems he will have trying to make any progress in the “Rainbow Party”…which they may as well rename themselves as…

    Tom: Yes, I saw old Russell over there when I briefly visited…they are getting liberal…I counted at least five comments and he hasnt been banned…

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  76. big bruv (13,559 comments) says:

    DG

    Do the Labour wimin really think that the people of NZ are going to vote for a party of man haters?

    Are they that divorced from reality?

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  77. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    I like “The Poofter Party” Far more honest than trying to con the workers into thinking you still represent any of them unless they are transsexual entertainers! :)

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  78. David Garrett (6,774 comments) says:

    BB: They are a very queer lot..One of the things I will never forget is Ruth Dyson saying in a speech on some conscience issue that she would change her vote because I praised a speech she had made…when you are that bitter and bent out of shape anything is possible I guess…

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  79. big bruv (13,559 comments) says:

    DG

    Was Dyson sober enough to remember the speech you made?

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  80. CharlieBrown (925 comments) says:

    People’s comments on gays on this site actually show the problem with Labour, all their mp’s are bloody stereotypes. I don’t give a rats arse about an MP’s sexual orientation, I’m more concerned about the substance and the ability to project a well thought out message that matters.

    Instead the party is full of anti-male feminists that want sex based quotas, anti-job environmental loons, lesbians with a chip off their collar that want same sex marriages (I supported the measure but for such a divisive issue they could have chosen someone less stereotypical as the face for it), lieing leaders that have lived a long time of the taxpayers teet, and unfortunately the quality of maori mp’s they have had in the past has also played into some bad stereotypes.

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  81. David Garrett (6,774 comments) says:

    BB: You are confusing Dyson with Dalziell…after 8 pm she smelled like a jet aircraft …been for a dry out several times I am told…

    Nice to see you back Wahine..an ambassador’s job ought to suit Lazy Shane nicely dont you think?

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  82. Northland Wahine (659 comments) says:

    I would have praised her more often, David!

    On topic tho, good luck to Jones with this new position. Just don’t rest on your laurels.

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  83. thor42 (971 comments) says:

    @big bruv – “…they (Labour) finally have a man who could be PM in the house.”

    Hmm… maybe…..

    He has massive hurdles in front of him though. For a start, is he left-wing enough? Do the unions like him?
    Do the rainbow faction and the women’s faction like him?

    I have nothing against him personally but I despise the left – Labour, Mana, the Greens – all of them. Because of that, I hope that Davis *doesn’t* end up being Labour’s saviour.

    Oh – and given that he is only a list MP, his stay could be very brief if Labour get hammered in the election.

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  84. Northland Wahine (659 comments) says:

    Thank you David… And I suspect it will be a cushy job for Jones. Goes to show tho, l do believe he was headhunted because he’s the best man for the job. And kudos to McCully for recognising this.

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  85. geoff3012 (56 comments) says:

    inshed (58 comments) says:
    April 22nd, 2014 at 8:36 pm
    geoff3012
    od your full of it DPF. You’ve been saying more Labour MP’s should stand aside and the party needs rejuvenation and here it is.

    Dickhead!

    I know you are trolling and not at all very well, but I am in generous mood tonight so will rise to your albeit poorly presented bait: it is not rejuvenation when you leave your party for a new role, without much if any warning, created for you by the party of government. Especially if you are a high ranking MP who recently fought a good fight for the leadership of your party. And even more so if you have given the strong impression that you are at best uncomfortable with much of your party’s membership and power brokers. No, that’s not rejuvenation, that’s looking after number one and bugger your Party.

    And let’s be clear, this isn’t really about Shane Jones at all. It is about John Key taking a very sharp and pointy stick and poking it very firmly and resolutely in the eye of David Cunliffe. Welcome to the thunderdome, David!

    And lastly, please don’t call DPF a dickhead. It is unbecoming.

    I took the comment from somebody else………i was not calling DPF a dickhead….he’s not…….i’ve cocked this up….apologies….

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  86. Sidey (249 comments) says:

    Geoff3012,
    Yeah I spotted that but figured you’d get yourself out of it eventually!
    Hint… some quotation marks around other people’s quotes might help in the future….

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  87. CharlieBrown (925 comments) says:

    When did Jones come to parliament? 2005. So he has been there for only 9 years, he is new blood by Labours standards. There are a large number of labour mps that have been an mp since the 80′s and 90′s that won’t leave.

    But in saying that, John Key isn’t keen in new blood when it comes to the PM’s job. He should be stating now that this will be his last term and he will appoint a replacement mid term, that is the only way national can hope to see in a 4th and 5th term but I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have the country or his party’s best interest at heart.

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  88. kowtow (7,949 comments) says:

    How can you go from Labour to National?

    Have these people no ethics or morality?

    No of course not.

    Permanent political class looking out for No 1.

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  89. geoff3012 (56 comments) says:

    “Sidey (231 comments) says:
    April 22nd, 2014 at 9:43 pm
    Geoff3012,
    Yeah I spotted that but figured you’d get yourself out of it eventually!
    Hint… some quotation marks around other people’s quotes might help in the future….”

    Totally mortified…..in 1975 I “gate crashed” labour party election party in Hillside workshops union social hall…..don’t know why but thought wallace Rowling was a total fuckwit….Speculation tax and some might remember the limiting of how big a house you could build….I was 18 at the time…..staggered in “yelling we won”….”we won”….climbed on stage and crashed into band (took the drums and the drummer out). Got escorted of premises. (funny that)

    So i have taken one for the team. Family trust now owns building ha ha…..Bill Fraser was never the same!

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  90. martinh (1,164 comments) says:

    I wonder what NZ first will go up to in the polls after this.
    Watching Labour on Parliament tv i dont know how the hell they think they can put their hands up to govern. They are a bunch of lazy slugs, Annette king sits there literally stroking her fat troughing chin

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  91. WineOh (608 comments) says:

    I don’t think the Nats have had anything at all to do with this… its all about Labour.

    I suspect that he has done something deeply unpopular within the caucus, like say what the rest of NZ knows but that they don’t want to hear- Cunliffe will NOT be the next PM of NZ. However, I don’t believe he was made to walk the plank, he’s been too valuable for them and has been one of the only in the Labour ranks who has been making positive headways for the party among their base voters.

    My personal perception is that he made this decision to quit on his own, to preserve what dignity he still has left before being raped again by what the Labour party has become. It also appears that he did not give the party the heads up that he was doing it, as they appear to have gone into their War Room, cellphones off and no official party response from anyone of import. “How do we spin this” they’ll be saying to themselves. “What do we do now.” That muffled drum beat in the background is the sound of inevitability.

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  92. martinh (1,164 comments) says:

    WineOh
    Maybe Jones thinks Matt McCarten is as big a nut case as i think Matt is

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  93. Nostalgia-NZ (5,045 comments) says:

    “How do we spin this” they’ll be saying to themselves. “What do we do now.” That muffled drum beat in the background is the sound of inevitability.’

    Congratulate him, thank him for his service and move on.

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  94. Paul Williams (877 comments) says:

    FWIW, I’ve got mixed feelings. He was clearly a very clever business person and equally effective in the boardroom, Marae or in Parliament. That said, he was the political equivalent of a goal-hanger; someone who quite likes to kick the goal but seldom did the hard work. He also said stupid stuff ’cause he’d get a laugh. Playing to the gallery is important if you’re broadening the brand so long as you don’t unduly divide the existing fan-base. I didn’t see him do this well enough to be inclined to tolerate the grandstanding.

    I’m very enthused though that Kelvin Davis is being talked about as replacing him. He struck me as someone with enormous talent, insight, judgement and capacity to build consensus.

    Anyhow, it doesn’t matter what I think, or whether there’s perspectives, the blog-pile-on is underway…

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  95. Tinshed (117 comments) says:

    geoff3012

    I took the comment from somebody else………i was not calling DPF a dickhead….he’s not…….i’ve cocked this up….apologies….

    All good. Thanks for clarifying. Peace.

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  96. Elaycee (4,332 comments) says:

    David Garrett: You are confusing Dyson with Dalziell…after 8 pm she smelled like a jet aircraft

    Haha….. Love it! :D

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  97. geoff3012 (56 comments) says:

    Tinshed (59 comments) says:
    April 22nd, 2014 at 10:22 pm
    geoff3012

    I took the comment from somebody else………i was not calling DPF a dickhead….he’s not…….i’ve cocked this up….apologies….

    All good. Thanks for clarifying. Peace.

    peace brother!

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  98. Chris2 (768 comments) says:

    Come back Helen Clarke. Come back Charles Chauvel. Come back Chris Carter. Come back Darren Hughes. Come back Colin Moyle. Its safe now.

    Have I missed anybody?

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  99. martinh (1,164 comments) says:

    chris, yes david benson pope

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  100. gump (1,553 comments) says:

    It’s interesting that nobody in the blogosphere anticipated this.

    The new media has its limitations.

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  101. Warren Murray (293 comments) says:

    McCully played to Jones’ well developed sense of self interest. And now Jones is a standard bearer for public service?

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  102. HB (298 comments) says:

    the new job sounds interesting – TV3 said it was one created especially for him. How often do ministers do this? Create jobs for mates, or to nobble the opposition? I gather they are not going to advertise the job? It is just going to be given to him?

    I can totally see why Jones wants to leave Labour – they are a mess. But the new job offer sounds dodgy.

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  103. DJP6-25 (1,310 comments) says:

    Fantastic! Always kick the buggers when they’re down. that way, they don’t get up and bite you at an inconvenient moment.

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  104. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    Heckya’s hubby apparently donated money to Jones’ failed leadership campaign. That isn’t a good look.

    National of course are shedding 15 MPs, including at least one Minister. Why are so many Tories quitting?

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  105. big bruv (13,559 comments) says:

    ross69

    “Why are so many Tories quitting?”

    Because unlike the low life Labour MP’s they have options. Face it Ross, a job as an MP is the highest paying job that most Labour MP’s will ever have, they are not there to serve the people they are there to serve themselves.

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  106. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    Good on you, comrade ross. Even when down, you (loyal red) are here waving the sickle and hammer flag.

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  107. ShawnLH (4,434 comments) says:

    “Why are so many Tories quitting?”

    To make way for new blood, so that National remains vital and fresh, while Labour continues it’s decline into dinosaur territory.

    “Heckya’s hubby apparently donated money to Jones’ failed leadership campaign. That isn’t a good look.”

    Yes it is. Labour supporters at the Standard will try and spin all this. The public will not care one bit, and if they do they will likely see it as good strategy on National’s part. If Labour is to weak and too dumb to prevent their only half way decent MP being taken out of the game by the Nat’s, that does not say much for them.

    It’s called chess lefties, and your side is losing. Whining about it and crying foul won’t make any difference. It will only make you look weaker and more pathetic than you already do.

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  108. Mobile Michael (432 comments) says:

    I have noticed that John Key has never been asked about confidence in his leadership each ti e an MP announced they were leaving.

    Will Shane be back in three years for NZ First? And number 2 on the list?

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  109. ShawnLH (4,434 comments) says:

    “I have noticed that John Key has never been asked about confidence in his leadership each ti e an MP announced they were leaving.”

    Why would he? Nobody seriously doubt’s his leadership skills. Such questions are reserved for parties who’s poll results are dismal and who’s leader’s polls results are even worse.

    That would be Labour.

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  110. RF (1,343 comments) says:

    Chris2…. 10.28pm. How about Gerald O’Brien. He was mixed up with a youth in Christchurch back in the 70s.

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  111. Mark (1,432 comments) says:

    Cunliffes leadership is a continuing nightmare for Labour and the gift to National even the most optimistic could not beleive would fall in their laps.

    The right of Labouir is simply throwing in the towel as the left simply destroy what was once a major party. Labour could pole in the mid to low 20% range in the next election if the trend continues. :D

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  112. Southern Raider (1,748 comments) says:

    71% on Stuff poll say Labour is smashed big time. Only 5% say it’s okay because their is plenty of other talent in Labour.

    Interesting even on NBR the left apologists are trying to make out it is good for the party and that Jones was too centrist for the party and they can now return to their working class roots.

    Very deluded these people

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  113. polemic (429 comments) says:

    Why doesnt the Labour Party start trying to take over the Govt with direct infiltration town by town like its beloved fellow communists do in Ukraine….
    Then the Labour leader could sit back smugly and deny any involvement instead of trying to defend the party for its failings time after time

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  114. stephieboy (2,536 comments) says:

    Food for thought from a texter on the Radio this morn,

    Shane Jones purchased by JK much like Hone purchased by .com.?

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  115. David Garrett (6,774 comments) says:

    Ross: What a sad little man…every half pie objective commentator sees the turnover in National as a positive thing; new blood, rejuvenation and all that. But you, a worthy employee of the Ministry for Newspeak, asks why are so many “tories” quitting?

    Well, let me run through an illustrative few of them for you…I’ll try and keep it simple.

    Shane Ardern: Smart enough guy, but not stellar. Has accepted the fact that he won’t make cabinet, so is returning to his multi million dollar dairy farming operation in Taranaki. (He doesnt need the parliamentary income you see).

    Cam Calder: Helluva nice guy and amusing speech maker. Qualified as both a doctor and a dentist…but doesnt need to work at either. Also appears to have been passed over for a cabinet position so why stay?

    Phil Heatley: Demoted from cabinet for lack lustre performance. Has options outside parliament, so is taking them.

    Kate Wilkinson: Ditto.

    Do you get the picture? Unlike your sorry lot, the “tories” DONT NEED THE MONEY. They can find a suitable position paying the same or probably more outside parliament. Your lot by and large – Jones is the exception – cant. Get it?

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  116. ShawnLH (4,434 comments) says:

    ” and that Jones was too centrist for the party and they can now return to their working class roots.”

    I would have thought Jones was one of the few remaining links to working class folks.

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  117. RRM (9,662 comments) says:

    Well that’s it. Labour are completely fucked now.

    Jones was one of the very few among them that I could imagine myself actually supporting.

    labour – a voice for the working class.

    And by “the working class” I mean gay uni grads in the public service, and beneficiaries.

    Cuddle a crim today, it beats working. If you think about it, it IS a kind of work really.

    You can’t trust John Key.

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  118. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Shane was about the last of the “men” in Labour. They now have their way, full of fairies, half men, weirdos, and of course a buffoon, Cosgrove!

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  119. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    DG: This Ross69 clown is depictive of the envious leeching left. He must sit waiting to see something untoward happen to anyone other than the weirdos and leeches he beholds as messiahs. You are quite correct, when anyone of the right leaves Parliament they have a supportive position or business to go to. Lefties go to councils, unions, or the public service, not being able to keep away from the taxpayers’/ratepayers’/unionists’ purses.

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  120. David Garrett (6,774 comments) says:

    igm: It is really too funny watching these clowns flounder around for the correct spin to put on Jones’ departure…Have a look at today’s GD…someone has quoted at lenght from “lprent”‘s exposition on the banning policy at the Stranded…I often wonder whether some of the lefties who comment here – or perhaps just look and dont comment – ever find themselves uneasily wondering why you can say just about anything here and not get banned, but they over “Home” people are banned with gay (sorry) abandon? They are not all stupid, despite their political hue..

    Brainwave: Ross69…do tell us why you think you and your mates are allowed to comment at will here, while someone of your political opposite would last about five minutes Over Home? (Perhaps have a squiz at the section I refer to on todays GD before responding..

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  121. ChardonnayGuy (1,185 comments) says:

    Damn. Shane would have made an excellent Minister of Commerce, which is the portfolio which would have been tailor-made for him if he’d continued his parliamentary tenure. However, he’s an ambitious man and someone made a better offer. In any case, this makes a hash out of those ridiculous claims he’d head Winstonwards as a consequence of not winning the Labour leadership. My only misgivings were related to his unfortunate populist personal style and horizontal hostility displayed toward the Greens as Labour’s logical future coalition partner. And hey, Shane’s not a raving right sock con nutbar like some of his defenders in this thread and certainly not another John Tamihere.

    One wishes him well in his future career trajectory, although not without a degree of regret at the loss of a potential future Cabinet minister of his calibre. If I were the Nats, I’d save my fake sympathy for those continued questions about Judith Collins and ministerial accountability and conflict of interest.

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  122. wikiriwhis business (3,883 comments) says:

    “State subsidised beer and black singlets; ritual hazing of poofs; wet T-Shirt contests; and all live rugby on Freeview.”

    Don’t you remember Jenny Shipley saying we aren’t going back to the 60′s. She’s prog as.

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  123. David Garrett (6,774 comments) says:

    Update from the Stranded: (Hey, someone’s got to put on a heavy duty hazard suit and do the dirty jobs)

    Jones’ position apparently “became untenable after news of his support by right wing interests began to leak out.”

    IIRC it was Jones himself who “revealed” that Wira Gardiner had given him $1000 towards his campaign for Labour leader… $1000..wow! Although I guess if you are a union hack or on the bene that might seem like a significant sum…

    He’s also apparently no loss, because he made “misogynist comments” and supported “environmentally unsustainable industry”…By the end of the day he will be a worse apostate than Trotsky, and they’ll be dropping hints that some of the fraternal brothers should take an ice pick to him…

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  124. SHG (370 comments) says:

    Something I’ve seen hinted at but not explicitly stated in any published article yet – if National made this happen they’re fucking brilliant. Think of all the things that would have to come together.

    Sir Wira Gardiner secretly donates to Jones’s leadership campaign. Murray McCully informally sounds Jones out as to whether or not Jones really wants to spend another three years on the Opposition benches with a bunch of pakeha unionists, gay-rights activists, and tree-hugging hippies who hate him and hints that a high-level government job focused on Pacific economic development with a resources-slash-fisheries angle may soon be created if the right candidate could be found. Jones sees the writing on the hull and jumps from the sinking Good Ship Labour, which means that the next candidate off the Labour List gets tapped for a return to Parliament and oh ho ho guess who it is – Kelvin Davis. Kelvin Davis, a by-all-accounts bright talented hetero Maori male who got shafted by the sisterhood for being a bright talented hetero Maori male and who got given an embarrassingly low list position before the last election and who lost his job as a result. Being a lowly-ranked List MP who has already once been fucked by the party Kelvin Davis will feel like his hetero male testicles are on a table next to a pile of hammers unless he can win an electorate seat, and his home seat is oh ho ho it gets even better TAI TOKERAU. Which means to have any sort of job security Davis has to defeat Hone Harawira in an electorate race, which means Kelvin Davis has to knock the Mana Party and its parasite Kim Dotcom Party completely out of NZ politics and deprive the Labour Party of an entire coalition partner. Having a bright talented hetero Maori male running on the left in Tai Tokerau means that Harawira and Dotcom will be put under a fucking microscope during the election which is something I’m guessing neither of them want to happen. And this is all now a lot easier for Davis because he’s now back in parliament because Shane Jones retired after being offered a job by Murray McCully, and being back in parliament means he gets to run this knock-off-Harawira Tai Tokerau electorate campaign with parliamentary funding.

    Possible outcomes:

    1. Kelvin Davis runs a good campaign with support from Labour and defeats Harawira in Tai Tokerau. Mana Party out of Parliament. National laughs.

    2. Kelvin Davis loses Tai Tokerau when he gets hung out to dry AGAIN by Labour which gives him shitty support in his campaign because they want a possible coalition-partner party in Parliament more than they want a bright talented hetero Maori male on their own team. Labour thus confirms that it a) hates heterosexual males and b) hates Maoris all in one go, thus further pigeonholing itself as an extreme-left party. National laughs.

    If McCully (and let’s be honest, he wouldn’t have done this himself, so let’s include John Key) and National actually foresaw these possible outcomes and specifically targeted Jones in order to make them more likely, they have got serious game.

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  125. Rich Prick (1,633 comments) says:

    Great analysis SHG.

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  126. David Garrett (6,774 comments) says:

    It’s actually very interesting (and well worth a look) watching the lefties attack each other “Over There”…Stuart Nash – one of the very few of their commenters who uses his own name – comes in and says the obvious – that Kelvin Davis ought to have had a winnable list place in 2011…the reaction? He is immediately accused of being on the piss at 10 am, and then attacked for various supposed doctrinal errors…

    The developing line is that far from being one of Labour’s last tenuous link to Waitakere Man, Jones was “always in the wrong party” and has been bought off (for a couple of grand!!) by the evil party of the ruling class..

    By the end of the day he will have been photoshopped out of the pics of Labour’s last cabinet…

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  127. RightNow (6,841 comments) says:

    And the Daily Blog too…
    “Jones Resigns To Work For McCully – Labour Dodges A Bullet
    By Martyn Bradbury:…”

    Love this bit: “Working class people know the relief of a haemorrhoid being surgically removed”

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  128. Fentex (909 comments) says:

    Whether one thinks this is a sign of Jones being forced out by ideologues he can’t work with, or of a poor candidate running away from his own failure it will probably work out in Labours interest.

    It reduces internal friction so the Labour party ought work more cohesively. That may or may not be something voters enjoy and elect over anyone else.

    Danyl at the Dimpost is enjoying being vindicated in his past opinion of Jones and suggests that after the probable defeat of Labour this election a consequence will be an increased chance of Grant Robertson taking the lead.

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  129. Fentex (909 comments) says:

    Speaking about corruption – because it really is something National keeps supplying Labour ammunition for and should be first out of their barrel every time at the moment, Shane Jones seems to have informed us that he is participating with McCully in a corrupt practice, as described by No Right turn.

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  130. Fisiani (994 comments) says:

    Hone won the Te Tai Tokerau Electorate by 1165 votes. The National Party Vote {with no candidate} was 1814. If those 1814 people want to help National they should continue to give their Party vote to National but also give their electorate vote to Kelvin Davis.

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  131. kowtow (7,949 comments) says:

    When was arsehole Bradbury ever working class?

    Another charrdonay socialist .

    Funny also how the left talk of National as the ruling class ,when in fact we have a permanent political class made up of these professional politicians,who all seem to scratch each others’ backs ,at the expense of the taxpaying class.

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  132. Colville (2,190 comments) says:

    Fisiani.
    The Nats want Hone to win.
    Any coalition with Hone in it will explode in a few weeks.

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  133. Colville (2,190 comments) says:

    This Jones departure must be making the Nats piss them selves laughing. What a coup.
    Just when Cun*liffe is having a few quiet weeks and not actually making a cock of himself Jones pulls the trigger and shoots Cun*liffe in the foot.
    Its just too fucking funny ;-)

    Stuff poll had 5% of voters saying that Labour had the talent to do it without Jones. 5 percent.
    Five out of six of their voters think they are fucked. Brilliant !

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  134. lolitasbrother (588 comments) says:

    says
    “Colville April 23rd, 2014 at 12:18 pm
    Fisiani.
    The Nats want Hone to win.Any coalition with Hone in it will explode in a few weeks.”

    I say thats silly Colville and Fisani. This will be a straight forward NZ Nat win.
    Watch dudes, watch, this is New Zealand, full of middle class people, vote here .

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