Do as we say, not as we do

May 22nd, 2014 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

Andrea Vance at Stuff reports:

The Green Party is demanding transparency of political donations – but will hold a closed door auction to raise funds later this month. …

However, the are coy about their own fundraising methods. An agenda for next weekend’s annual day meeting shows the media are barred from a pre-lunch ”party fundraising session” on the last day of the three-day conference.

A spokeswoman explained the half-hour meeting is an auction for party members. It was a ”fun” session closed so guests could ”let their hair down.”

Co-leader Metiria Turei has crocheted a blanket which will be offered for sale. ”It’s not $10,000 a pop,” the spokeswoman said, referring to National’s fundraising events.

So the Greens are saying it is okay to sell yourselves, so long as you sell yourselves cheaply?

I of course think there is nothing wrong with MPs attending fundraising events. But the Greens are the ones who keep claiming it is wrong.

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37 Responses to “Do as we say, not as we do”

  1. b1gdaddynz (279 comments) says:

    Fundraising is perfectly acceptable as long as you aren’t successful!

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  2. Rich Prick (1,705 comments) says:

    “It was a ”fun” session closed so guests could ”let their hair down.””

    My imagination is running wild, and I’m thinking more than morris dancing might be involved.

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  3. alex Masterley (1,517 comments) says:

    the session is 1/2 an hour long.
    Says a lot for the greens fund raising expectations

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  4. jp_1983 (213 comments) says:

    The Greens don’t want media attending because they (Norman et all) would be embarrassed by the amount of money people would voluntary give to them

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  5. david (2,557 comments) says:

    It was a very old joke that ended with the punchline:

    “Now that we have established what you are, all we are arguing about is the price”

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  6. mara (787 comments) says:

    A crocheted blanket? dear lord …..

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  7. alloytoo (543 comments) says:

    ah David, you beat me to it.

    Churchill: Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?
    Socialite: My goodness, Mr. Churchill… Well, I suppose… we would have to discuss terms, of course…
    Churchill: Would you sleep with me for five pounds?
    Socialite: Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!
    Churchill: Madam, we’ve already established that. Now we are haggling about the price.
    (This is a very old joke where the participants vary dramatically from each telling. It’s very unlikely though not impossible that the joke originated from Churchill.)

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  8. burt (8,272 comments) says:

    What is the ‘currency’ of the donations that requires such secrecy ?

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  9. Don the Kiwi (1,757 comments) says:

    alloytoo.

    That joke certainly portrays Churchillian wit though, does it not?

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  10. Andronicus (219 comments) says:

    What a fuss about nothing.

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  11. alloytoo (543 comments) says:

    DTK

    Indeed, though I doubt the point will be well taken by the Greens.

    We have established both what they are and their price. Cheap.

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  12. RRM (9,924 comments) says:

    Maybe they just don’t want to end up with videos all over youtube of Green Party members and supporters emulating Mallard and Hodgson’s sweet sweet moves on the dance floor? ;-)

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  13. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    we need to get a camera in there.

    redbaiter – this is your big moment. we are sending you in undercover. i trust youve read marx etc?

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  14. OneTrack (3,107 comments) says:

    “Do as we say, not as we do”

    That is the hard-left’s mantra isn’t it? Four legs good, two legs better.

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  15. gravedodger (1,566 comments) says:

    Eye candy very expensive due to scarcity. outstanding value guaranteed
    Discount vouchers for electricity, not now so popular as power will be soo cheap.
    Greens, NZ finest another poor starter as BYO is de jour
    Matching bed socks, willy warmer and hat to match tutai’s crocheted wet blanket.
    2 minutes one on one with comrade XXXX, all you need to know on Das Kapital to be relaunched by Karl Normal as “Dis Kaos”
    Four free passes to exempt from Kennedy Graham, Steffen Browning and Catherine Delahunty, fully transferable and recyclable.
    Pledge that Julianne ‘Gentle’ Genter who will only oppose Transmission Gully North of Silverdale and South of Slope Point.
    Great raffle prizes at only 50c a ticket and limited to twenty tickets. nb not gambling as every player wins a prize minimum value .5$NZ.

    Target is two million normals with exchange rate of 200 000 to one $NZ, nb some of the notes may still be damp and ink could run, wont be noticed on hemp suits with natural dyes

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  16. ciaron (1,434 comments) says:

    RRM (9,123 comments) says:
    May 22nd, 2014 at 1:36 pm
    Maybe they just don’t want to end up with videos all over youtube of Green Party members and supporters emulating Mallard and Hodgson’s sweet sweet moves on the dance floor? ;-)

    Lest we forget….

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  17. GPT1 (2,122 comments) says:

    They really are sanctimonious hypocrites.

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  18. RJL (146 comments) says:

    The difference, of course, is that with Cabinet Club you pay a fee and then in return get to meet with a Cabinet minister. So, clearly cash for access.

    Whereas, with the Green’s blanket auction, any Green Party member (including MPs) can attend. The auction winner gets a blanket. You don’t need to pay anything to attend. You don’t need to bid in the auction.

    Also, Cabinet Club is about access to Cabinet ministers, whereas the Green party fundraiser is only attended by MPs (as there are no Green Cabinet ministers).

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  19. Rich Prick (1,705 comments) says:

    Oh I see RJL. Only the opposition are permitted to fundraise. Right, thanks for clearing that up. By the way, can you point out the law that prohibits MP’s who happen to cabinet ministers from attending fundraisers?

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  20. mara (787 comments) says:

    Memo to Greens – Macramé plant holders are very big this year. I know you won’t be tempted by the cheapness of the polyester, coloured crap from the Warehouse and will faithfully adhere to the hemp only rule. Oh, and Ms Turei, where did you obtain the fluffy hemp you used to crochet your blanket. Some pics please. Kumbaya.

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  21. RJL (146 comments) says:

    Rich Prick,

    The Cabinet Manual prohibits charging for access to Cabinet Ministers.

    Cabinet Ministers are welcome to attend/contribute to fundraisers. But if they do, then that fundraiser cannot be one whereby the funds are raised by selling access to said Cabinet Ministers. It would be perfectly fine, for a Cabinet Minister to, for example, contribute to a party fundraiser by auctioning a blanket they have made.

    Sure, the rules are perhaps a bit trickier if you are a Cabinet Minister, but that’s because Cabinet Ministers have power. Hence, why there are rules to avoid abuse of that power.

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  22. alloytoo (543 comments) says:

    I’m very glad that RJL agrees with us that the big difference is price.

    The Greens unable to command premium price are like those poor souls who have to “Wait until closing (of the pub) to give it away.”

    Of course while we don’t know Russel’s asking price because Kim is being coy, he has certainly told us how he plans to “Put out” as it were.

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  23. calendar girl (1,237 comments) says:

    gravedodger@2:17pm: Very clever; a good laugh, thanks.

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  24. RJL (146 comments) says:

    alloytoo,

    No, the difference is that the Greens are not fundraising by selling access to Cabinet Ministers (or MPs for that matter).

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  25. Paulus (2,627 comments) says:

    Selling yourself is often known as Prostitution – especially to the highest bidder.

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  26. Lance (2,655 comments) says:

    @RJL
    No, the Greens are just selling future access to cabinet ministers (well in their dreams anyway).
    Hence the heavy discounting.

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  27. ross411 (841 comments) says:

    RJL (131 comments) says:
    May 22nd, 2014 at 4:20 pm
    alloytoo,

    No, the difference is that the Greens are not fundraising by selling access to Cabinet Ministers (or MPs for that matter).

    Unlike.. the Labour party, where they were selling access? Like when Norman made his two pilgrimages out to Dotcom’s mansion, to discuss business? Which case of fundraising by selling access are we talking about?

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  28. OneTrack (3,107 comments) says:

    rich prick – “By the way, can you point out the law that prohibits MP’s who happen to cabinet ministers from attending fundraisers?”

    It’s the Envious Lefty Law.

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  29. OneTrack (3,107 comments) says:

    ross411

    Not to forget the Green Party, where Russel drops in for a chat with DotCom, and, nek minnut, he is guaranteeing that a Green-Labour government will actually interfere in the judicial process and stop the extradition, out of hand.

    What do these lefties see when they look in the mirror each morning? Or do they justify it because anything is ok for the “cause”?

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  30. Keeping Stock (10,342 comments) says:

    Keeping Stock’s resident songwriter Curly Sue has seized on the opportunity to take the piss out of the Party of Principle over its Crochet Club fundraiser…

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2014/05/curly-sues-nod-to-crochet-club.html

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  31. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    What about a few pics of a Labour social event, at taxpayers’ expense, where a young boy allegedly, was plied with booze and indecently assaulted . . . there are some around, and by hell would I love to get my hands on them. There must be a few senior Labour MPs, both current and past, extremely concerned about this event ever getting some real traction . . . if it were National, media would be all over it!

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  32. Zapper (1,021 comments) says:

    What really pisses me off is that the Greens have a co-leader who looks like Turei. They’re a joke of a party in every way, and she’s a joke of a politician, but couldn’t they at least find an attractive joke?

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  33. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    They could sack the Sausage and give the lovely Julie the job …..even if she is an airhead! :)

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  34. Mark Craig (31 comments) says:

    Rich Prick what happened there ,cat got your tounge ,or just cleaned out in the argument ,front up gutless fucker

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  35. Wayne91 (142 comments) says:

    Mark Craig – you must be a green party member going by your abusive post. Becoming a quite common theme and from the greens

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  36. Rich Prick (1,705 comments) says:

    “Mark Craig (25 comments) says:

    May 22nd, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    Rich Prick what happened there ,cat got your tounge ,or just cleaned out in the argument ,front up gutless fucker”

    Charming. Let me guess, you’re a Greenie and a bit new round here with just 25 comments to your name. I don’t respond well to Greenies nor abuse. I don’t tend to hang out on line all night either. For the record, I am not a “gutless fucker”.

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  37. MH (757 comments) says:

    lie back and in the tweets of a lowbore MP, think of English.

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