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In view of the extraordinary success of the anti-European UK Independence Party (UKIP) in the recent local and European elections, Wayne looks at the party and the European-wide backlash against immigration. Wallace follows up with German historian Professor Christoph Herzog.
O.K I’ll take that back . They will try to interpret it as a hicup due to unemployment; need to ramp up multicultural appreciation programs.
“Both in New Zealand and globally, the best of the leftwing tradition has always rejected small-minded nationalism, xenophobia and racism. In fact, leftists of an internationalist tradition have always favoured globalization and getting rid of national borders and barriers to migration. Progressive advocates of globalization of course do not defend a handful of rich imperialist countries, including New Zealand, dominating the world’s economy, but instead advocate an integrated and radically egalitarian world economy where production is based on social need and not on private profit. ”
Re; your comment at 8.23 about the quality of blogging herein last night.
Madam. May I refer you once more to my earlier comment to you that i posted yesterday that was along the lines of ‘Lighten up dear”.
Judith. Seriously. If you think that Kiwiblog – or any other fly-by-night blog for that matter – has any serious substance or relevance, then I feel sorry for your empty and evidently meaningless life.
Judith, the Internet – as far as social blogging is concerned – is merely a medium for the frivolous, wild and wacky to have a blurt at the World on whatever hobbyhorse they’re concerned with at this or that millisecond in time. In short, its just a bit of fun, not to be taken seriously.
Judith, wake up, smell the coffee, and get with the – light-hearted, totally non-serious – internet blogging programme!!
Check out this comment Judith made to Burt yesterday
“I realise that you’d like to live in a society where the weak in society would be left to rot in their own kind of hell, ”
Wow. What sort of person would think that of another? Oh I know, a troll.
“Progressive advocates of globalization of course do not defend a handful of rich imperialist countries, including New Zealand, dominating the world’s economy, but instead advocate an integrated and radically egalitarian world economy where production is based on social need and not on private profit. ”
Basing anything on “social need” is imperialist, as someone has to decide what the social need is. Not only do decisions formerly made at a dispersed and grass-roots level by freely trading individuals have to be collectivised by a central bureaucracy; this bottom-up selection process has to be banned less it compete with the central top-down dictate. And to ban it you need the monitoring agencies, informants and police.
Oh the delicious irony of political utopian theory… totally divorced from human nature or natural law.
I think you hit the nail on the head with “sanctimonious”
making a show of being morally superior to other people.
synonyms: self-righteous, holier-than-thou, churchy, pious, pietistic, moralizing, unctuous, smug, superior, priggish, mealy-mouthed, hypocritical, insincere, for form’s sake, to keep up appearances;
@ Akaroa (504 comments) says:
June 1st, 2014 at 8:47 am
I agree with what you say – but when the same people that spent a couple of hours dissing other blogs for the way the participants carry on – then proceed to carry on in an even worse manner – its hypocritical.
Whilst I am well aware of what goes on around the internet, this site generally has a higher standing. Whilst many tease and taunt, myself included, to call people out and incite violence and involve children etc – that is not on.
And… since when did ‘everyone else is doing it’ ever make it alright?
What if one of those gentlemen had actually ‘visited’ the other, and we were dealing with a serious assault today – would that be alright too? What sort of example is it to others reading this site? Its okay because other people do it? Rubbish!
“An immigration expert has come out today to challenge the assumptions about migration and housing, saying that ‘Restricting migration could help lower house prices, but doing so would be extremely difficult and have little impact’ – see the 5-minute TV3 interview and story, Migration will have little impact on house prices – professor. ”
Migration and Macroeconomic
Performance in New Zealand:
Theory and Evidence
The economic impacts of immigration in New Zealand have been extensively researched
in the past 15 years or so. In the abstract of their paper summarising key findings between
2005 and 2010, Hodgson and Poot (2010) conclude:
“… immigration has made a positive contribution to outcomes in
New Zealand… fears for negative economic impacts such as net fiscal
costs, lower wages, and increasing unemployment find very little support in
the available empirical evidence… the economic integration of migrants is
Since Hodgson and Poot’s survey was published, new theoretical and empirical work has
emerged which prompts a reassessment of the possibility that immigration could lead to
large positive or negative effects. This paper considers both recent and earlier work in
order to draw conclusions about the likely macroeconomic impacts of immigration,
discusses least regrets policy implications and suggests areas for further work.
Nana et. al. (2009) simulated the macroeconomic impact of an increase in immigration on
the New Zealand economy using a CGE model. This model was based on an earlier CGE
study by Poot et. al. (1988), which was originally based on an earlier Australian model by
Dixon et. al. (1982). Raising the inflow of migrants by 20,000 per annum increased the
resident population by 6.1 percent over 15 years, to 4.81 million in 2021. Relative to the
baseline, annual GDP growth rose by half a percentage point to 3.6 percent, and real
GDP per capita rose by 1.5 percent over the entire 15 year simulation period. The
increase in GDP per capita arises because the additional migrants are more likely to be of
working age than the resident population. Capital is assumed to increase in response to
increased labour supply to maintain the capital labour ratio. Both input and output prices
are lower relative to the baseline (reflecting increased supply). Lower prices improve
In this model, the additional economic activity is skewed towards relatively labour-
intensive industries (including tourism and other service exports) which benefit from the
lower wages associated with increased labour supply. As a corollary, relatively capital-
intensive industries do not benefit.
Model assumptions were varied to assess effects on productivity. Of all the assumptions
tested, only when immigration is assumed to lead to productivity improvements are
significant benefits generated above baseline.
2.3 Changing policy expectations
Since then, New Zealand has had substantial gross and net immigration, which has been
relatively skill-focused by international standards. However, New Zealand’s economic
performance has not been transformed. Growth in GDP per capita has been relatively
lacklustre, with no progress in closing income gaps with the rest of the advanced world,
and productivity performance has been poor. It may be that initial expectations about the
potential positive net benefits of immigration were too high.
Based on a large body of new research evidence and practical experience, the consensus
among policymakers now is that other factors are more important for per capita growth
and productivity than migration and population growth. CGE modelling exercises for
Australia and New Zealand have been influential in reshaping expectations.
Geez the name ‘johnboy’ is mud today. Johnboy got on the piss (whiskey and soda) last night and a few decided to join him (wine and JD) nek minute there was a sheep/goat orgy.
The big J is not impressed, but who cares. Since when did anyone have a right to stop men having fun?
@ All_on_Red (1,166 comments) says:
June 1st, 2014 at 8:53 am
Taking one sentence out of its entire context isn’t cleaver. Sanctimonious or not – I don’t really care what you think of me – but at least I’m ‘man’ enough to point out where I see a very poor example is being set and don’t just automatically accept a wrong doing, because the people doing it happen to vote for the same team. Just because its all over the internet, doesn’t make it right. ITs a very poor example of a blog that only yesterday was claiming its standards were better than anyone elses.
Arrived in Christchurch yesterday ( my first visit for 7 years). The wasteland of the Cbd is pretty sobering. How anybody thinks “the Government” could or should have miraculously rebuilt it by now is ludicrous.
@ Scott Chris (5,763 comments) says:
June 1st, 2014 at 9:03 am
I wasn’t a ‘victim’ I didn’t even take part in the conversation. I just happened to read it this morning and think how damn embarrassing it was for those that did take part in it. Especially as those same people had been claiming how the standards here were so much higher than elsewhere.
Looks like the Conservatives are going to have to do a deal with UKIP to survive.
“(Reuters) – Nearly nine in 10 of the over four million Britons who backed the anti-EU UKIP party in this month’s European elections will vote for them again in national polls next year, potentially costing Prime Minister David Cameron vital votes, according to a survey on Saturday.
If that were to happen, it would break the previous trend of support for UKIP in EU ballots disappearing at parliamentary elections.
UKIP, which calls for Britain to leave the European Union, won 4.3 million votes and topped the vote last week, scoring a 27.5 percent share, ahead of the main opposition Labour Party and ruling Conservatives.” http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/05/31/uk-britain-election-poll-idUKKBN0EB0EQ20140531
Will KimDotcons chief lickspittle Norman come clean on what inducements have been offered for him to oppose extradition before the election?
Any update on how the coalition of lesser lickspittles are polling this fine morn?
The scroll wheel is somewhat like the off button that you can bypass what doesn’t appeal to one … yesterday I felt very much like Judith and used the wheel to bypass the disgusting exhibition of slanging. Using the excuse of alchohol is a typical male moronic attitude of the limited mentality. It is not an valid excuse IMO.
Since cigarettes are not displayed at point of sale but the buyer has to request them by name, what is the real impact of proposed plain packeting?
Do smokers really discuss the brands they smoke, exchange cigarettes to see if another brand is better for them, or admire the design of a packet someone else has – the small portion which is not covered with obnoxious photographs and warnings?
Is it that plain packaging may be useful for other products, but smoking is the excuse to introduce it.
“I just happened to read it this morning.” Lol, how many deliberate & conscious acts does it take to have a few comments on a certain thread on a certain blog on the interweb on a device to “happen” to flash in front of you. So full of shit “Judith” Why don’t you go and lecture the real nasty bastards somewhere else. Does your “old boy” see how you carry on here? He needs to tell you to pull your bloody head in IMO. Go and make him some eggs or something, do some ironing.
@ freemark (362 comments) says:
June 1st, 2014 at 9:25 am
I actually quite often come in here whilst I am having an early morning cuppa, and see what has been said the night before. I don’t know why you would find that strange. I know many people that use that time the same way.
My ‘boy’ doesn’t tell me what I can and can’t do anymore than I tell him what he can do. But the fact you think that is the way a couple should carry on, certainly says a lot about your beliefs.
I happen to think that mature adults have a social responsibility to not encourage violence in society. Sorry if you feel differently but we are entitled to our opinions.
@ Steve (North Shore) (4,385 comments) says:
June 1st, 2014 at 9:23 am
I don’t read the standard Steve, went there once following a link and was disgusted with the carry on – have no idea who Linda is?
Yes, it was those two and others – from both sides of the political spectrum. Obviously a long standing dispute and involving family members as well.
I don’t care how anyone likes to paint it – when people provide address details and so on, it makes it serious and when someone actually follows that line and something bad does happen – it will be this blog that gets involved in a negative way.
It doesn’t have to be anyone taking part in that conversation, simply an on looker that didn’t agree could take action.
Do you know everyone reading this public blog?
Just watching q&a and Laila Harre talking to Susan Wood, and Harre just had her Show Me The Money moment, and, just like Goff before, fell at the wayside.
So, once again, the hard left are promising the world to get into power but have no idea how to pay for it. And to rub it in, she didn’t seem to think it was a problem. No wonder they say they hate money – they don’t understand it.
Radio NZ”s response to the UKIP earthquake is to treat us to Wayne Brittendon’s opinion: “UKIP “a lotof boorish statements” the British are a mongrel nation” “immigration [they are] the better for it”.
Judith, I do have a pretty good recollection of the gang of four including yourself, dissing it out and abusing those to the contrary over the Binnie Report and the Bain compensation saga.
Therefore a bit rich of you to complain about last night.?
I don’t know about the rules of the left but apparently in today’s Sunday Times a full page ad from Colin Craig and the Conservative Party congratulating Sue Bradford on her principled stand against the Mana Party and that buffoon.
Another alliance of convenience in the making.?
@ stephieboy (1,531 comments) says:
June 1st, 2014 at 10:00 am
Arguing about the facts and evidence of a well known criminal case, and arguing about a verdict and who was responsible for a mass murder, is not anywhere near the same as calling someone out and providing your address details inciting violence.
I have never given my address, or even my identity on this blog, let alone encouraged anyone to ‘visit’ me. You are being very desperate if you think the two are even remotely the same.
Yeah, Judith can certainly diss it out and when the Binnie report and Bain compensation were being discussed she went completely beserk if someone disagreed with her.
And she used to contact Rowan and co to make sure there was someone to help her out.
And it sure wasn’t lighthearted banter.
Thank goodness that is all over now. No more posts about Binnie , no more posts about Bain’s compensation claim.
The last thing that was of any note so far as the Bain saga is concerned was that defamation case that appears to have cost the instigator half a million bucks.
Judith, I stand by my previous post and your claims withstanding. One of the gang of four, Rowan, described me as a “child fiddler ” and others were dished out equivalent kinds of vitriolic from your lot.
Last night had nothing on it IMO
@ stephieboy (1,533 comments) says:
June 1st, 2014 at 10:50 am
And just because I happen to share the same opinion of who killed the Bains, as Rowan does, you are holding me responsible for the comment he made to you?
I am not responsible for any comments anyone else makes on here, but my own.
What people decide to call other people is not the issue I am complaining about.
What I am complaining about is the blatant attempt to incite violence that occurred on this blog last night. It was not just name calling, but backed up with the issuing of addresses, giving it some severity.
Tell me, how do you think it would reflect on Kiwiblog, if it appeared in the media that an ex-Act MP was supported by other Kiwiblog members in calling people out and inciting violence? Do you not think that the general public would not associate that behaviour (and the others involved) with Kiwiblogs administration, and in particular DPF – a well known John Key supporter? Do you not think that if someone wanted to, they could make an issue out of that behaviour and by association, relate it to two political parties.
This is election year, the internet and bullying are big issues – as is violence – do you really think that behaving in such a manner on a political blog is appropriate and should be condoned, especially considering the example it sets, not to mention the potential if such behaviour is allowed to continue – to cause harm to others just by association?
Stranger things happen in election years – if one side wishes to denigrate the other for their bad standards, they need to make sure their own are better.
Horan has made a series of allegations against his former NZ First colleagues, including:
• Peters’ failure to declare a stake in a racehorse on his pecuniary interests file.
• NZ First used about $20,000 from its taxpayer-funded leader’s budget to buy the Vanguard “constituent management software”. Horan claims Vanguard is used to seek memberships and donations, which is against Parliament’s rules.
• NZ First staff who are paid by Parliamentary Service are running the software, which is also against Parliament’s rules.
Really. That should be quite interesting. Very easy to quickly and decisively establish truth or falsity on that one. I’m sure our balanced and insightful media minds are on the case already, already having made various OIA requests and the like, with the intent of publishing ‘all the news fit to print’ so the voters can make up their mind, before they go to the polls, to decide whether NZF is a fit partner in the leftist coalition.
@ Reid (15,774 comments) says:
June 1st, 2014 at 11:13 am
I think you left off the allegations against Horan, himself. The serious fraud office still continuing the investigation, for a prolonged period of time – not having thrown it out as ‘unsubstantiated’ yet?
I think you left off the allegations against Horan, himself.
Only because they weren’t germane to the angle I took, but since you want to discuss them, my observation is that the allegations are not complicated rocket science and the police have had how many months – 15 or so? – to investigate, yet there is no conclusion. And of course, everyone knows it’s very difficult to go into an election if you have a cloud over your head, and who would benefit from maintaining that cloud over Horan or more particularly, who would not benefit by experiencing a significant loss of credibility given what they’ve been saying about him, if it turns out Horan isn’t guilty?
Please note I don’t particularly support or not support Horan, it’s just he appears to be being subjected to political games, with the police as a pawn in them, and while I don’t find that surprising, I do find that interesting.
The Conservatives’ cheeky ad featuring Sue Bradford in the Sun Star Times is a hoot. An opening salvo perhaps in a broader campaign? which, if this is anything to go by, involves humour, shaking things up a bit, and having some fun. Pretty trendy new logo.
The Conservatives’ cheeky ad featuring Sue Bradford in the Sun Star Times is a hoot. An opening salvo perhaps in a broader campaign? which, if this is anything to go by, involves humour, shaking things up a bit, and having some fun. Pretty trendy new logo.
We all know you’re a Conservative member – why try to pretend you’re a third party marvelling at the brillance of it all?
What I thought was funnier was the Daily Blog cut ‘n’ paste of it. There was a line “it’s going to be a while before Key and Craig get together over a cup of luke warm milo…” Luke warm milo! Love it! Now that’s cheeky humor.
Kirby goes on to predict, “Ultimately, we are going to get to a place where we will have no more choices. It will blow up. We are seeing cracks in the foundation of this fraud. . . . Gold and silver is your life insurance policy, and it isn’t going to come into its own until this current system breaks. I think we’re close to the current system breaking. . . . The way America is printing dollars, the dollar will absolutely go to zero.”
The road toll over Queen’s Birthday weekend last year was 0, this year it is 5.
Last year the authorities made a big deal out of the 0, citing it as proof that their policies were working.
I am not so sure. I think a lot of these accidents are due to randomly occurring instances when people let their guard down for a critical split second, like that tourist who allegedly ran a stop sign in clear daylight and caused an accident that killed three people in South Canterbury.
It’s really hard to verify whether blanket 5-km/h-over speed-ticketing campaigns work, when all of a sudden a car goes through a stop sign and takes out another vehicle somewhere out in the countryside, maybe on an isolated country road where you never see a cop.
What can be done to combat these random, fleeting moments of inattentiveness?
Evidence of Russian involvement (and lies about it) in Ukraine mounts.
What, you haven’t realised the US have been behind it all along and Russia is simply acting precisely the same as far more moderately than the US would be acting if Russia was doing to the US what the US is doing to it, say in Canada or in Mexico? How incredibly naive of you, SPC. Esp citing the Western MSM as if its not a disingenuous propaganda organisation. Don’t you know anything at all, about the world works?
I suppose you think Libya and Syria were and are both gwasswoots upwisings in the name of democwacy too. Boy. Talk about dumb.
During the first quarter of 2014, earnings by major U.S. retailers missed estimates by the biggest margin in 13 years. The “retail apocalypse” continues to escalate, and the biggest reason for this is the fact that middle class consumers in the U.S. are tapped out. And this is not just happening to a few retailers – this is something that is happening across the board…
…But plummeting retail sales are not the only sign that the U.S. middle class is really struggling right now. Home sales have also been extremely disappointing for quite a few months.
@ Keeping Stock (9,915 comments) says:
June 1st, 2014 at 12:11 pm
Actually KS, it wasn’t those two whose actions I was concerned about. It was the actions of ‘calling someone out’ and then providing addresses that concerned me. Name calling, tiffs, and so on are part and parcel of the internet. Stupid and immature, and a bad look, however, unlikely to cause physical harm. But when a person takes it serious enough to actually give their address – then I’m sorry, it is unacceptable, and reduces this blog to a low standard if it is allowed to continue. Whilst none of the parties concerned may have acted on that information, you do not know who else with a grudge might be looking on, and any subsequent action would reflect directly back to this blog, and the people this blog supports.
Am intrigue to know how using gold or a gold standard will magically fix the US economy.? This given the fact that the value of a nations currency is determined by it’s GDP i.e the sum total of it’s productive wealth (N Z Agriculture,Horti,Viti culture, Forestry ,Fisheries etc,etc.)
Reid, there is plenty of evidence that the uprisings in Libya and Syria were caused by their leaders ( Al Assad and the Colonel )unwilling to compromise and negotiate with the protesters instead of shooting them!
Am intrigue to know how using gold or a gold standard will magically fix the US economy.
This despite me giving you the answer to that question weeks ago, in a format you can sit back and watch, using language a child can understand. Here it is again. Either watch it and educate yourself, or accept you just don’t want to be told the answer to your question, live happily in your ignorant crapulence and don’t pretend to others on this blog you know what you’re talking about because you’ve looked into it. If you go to the uploaders youtube site, you’ll find an earlier one in the series that explains the difference between currency and money, which will more directly answer your specific question, but this episode is also an essential backgrounder.
Shinzo Abe is a hawk (I remember when his father was the prime minister). His grandfather was also prime minister, but that was before my time.
I believe the Japanese government want to take a more active role in their defense, and the Americans will probably be happy to have the Japanese shoulder more of the costs involved.
Japan is incredibly vulnerable to conventional attack (with so many of the vital arteries and infrastructure on the narrow strip of land on the Pacific coast running down along the island of Honshu). A couple of well-placed bombs to bring down their elevated highways, railways and power lines, and the country would be hamstrung.
Hopefully if the Japanese can get through the next couple of decades until their demographics stabilize, they will be in time to watch the Chinese population suffer the same kinds of problems the Japanese are facing now, and may be in a position to help them.
Japan and China (and the Korean peninsula) have so much more to gain if they can cooperate rather than try to beat each other up. They have an incredible amount of talent and human resources between them.
Reid, I will sincerely undertake to watch it but will stop it starts to drift into techno economic babble as is the case with Conspiracy based monetary theory.
I can safely assume it agrees with the common sense observation that the value of a nations currency is directly related to it’s productive wealth – GDP.?
A return to e.g the gold standard would not change this fact one iota.IMO.
So it got a bit rough in Ekatahuna last night.
A man who died in Eketahuna after crashing his car in the Tararua town allegedly drove off from a party because his wife had said she wanted to leave him.
A man in his mid-30s, crashed into a power pole on the corner of Herbert St and Alfredton Rd, Eketahuna, about 10:30pm yesterday.
Acting Central District road policing manager Kris Burbery said the man had been at a party, where he got into an argument, left, drove 600m down the road and crashed into a power pole.
”Initial indications suggest that alcohol and speed are two factors that have caused this tragic and totally preventable crash.”
Despite first aid being given the man died at the scene.
An Eketahuna woman told the Manawatu Standard the man had been drinking at the Eketahuna Rugby clubrooms at the time.
The club was celebrating its 125th jubilee this weekend, but the man was not a member, she said.’
He was angry at the time because he had been told his wife wanted to leave him.
”He did big donuts down the driveway and skidded all the way down the road.”
Good article on the gas agreement between Russia and China outlining some of the antagonistic history now being overcome as a direct result of the idiotic strategy being played out in Ukraine courtesy of the moronic WhiteHouse neocons to whom Obama has handed US foreign policy over to and who, of course, are now f***ing it up just as badly as they did when Bush 43 let them play with Iraq. Anyone would think they were doing it on purpose, but of course, that’s just a conspiwacy theowy. Too bad (for the US and the world) that their influence in the WhiteHouse isn’t also a theory, isn’t it.
Reid, stop posting conspiracy babble re Neo cons ,possibly Jews and Obama having a direct hand in and creating the Ukraine crises .
Your cabal were not involved in the same way in Libya, Syria , Egypt etc too.You either watch to much Kremlin based RT Propaganda or Conspiracy sites like Global “research ” or Infowars etc including state sponsored Irannnews agency .
Yours is all Conspiracy buff stuff.
Yup, definitely a brilliant piece of political humor! Not to mention a slap in the face for Sykes, Minto and Harre! Nicely done 🙂
“The Conservative Party has a new, unwilling poster child – radical Left-winger Sue Bradford.
In a week of strange political bedfellows, Colin Craig’s Conservative Party has run a full-page picture of Bradford and praised her for her principled stance in leaving the Mana Party over its new alliance with Kim Dotcom.
The full-page advertisement on page B15 of today’s Sunday Star-Times carries a huge picture of the veteran politician and the headline “Nice one SUE”.
The text below says that while Bradford and the Conservatives “couldn’t be further apart on the political spectrum”, the party admires Bradford as someone who “stands up for what they believe in”.”
Hey Johnboy, can you attract Judith’s attention, so she does not get waylayed by Big Bruv and D4J and Linda from the Strandard?
I would, but I have no sheep, goats or whatever you have on farms (country boy gone city)
A half rate for farmers $12.50 and an exemption for meat farming – the revenue dispersed via a 1 % cut to company tax and the first $2000 being exempt from income tax. Also a $12.50 credit per tonne for forestry.
So they will force New Zealanders to pay 5x the market price to reduce carbon emissions.
I’m looking forward to our astute onto-it Fourth Estate forcing this admission from the reluctant Belamites and detailing the precise economic implications of their very latest insanity during the election debates srylands.
I really really am. Of course they’ll have to fit it in between talking about the latest wisdom from “celebrities” such as Lucy Lawless and weeding out all the Liarbore and Bedlamite fifth columnists who’ve cleverly embedded themselves deep within their very anatomy like a tumour, but I’m sure that they’ll manage to do all of that while fully discharging their sacred duty during this critically important election discussion.
I listened to the Greens announcement on their carbon tax idea on TV1. I concluded they are totally confused ( I’m being nice!)
1. They say per head of population we are 5th highest emiters of CO2.
2. They say the ETS doesn’t work so need a Carbon Tax
3. Tax on companies with emissions but company tax will go down 1%
4. Tax to be $25/tonne , meat farmers 12.5%
5. Expect cost to be passed onto consumers
6. So first $2000 is tax free to compensate
7. So everyone is better off
8. Dirty dairy farmers must pay.
So where is this helping the environment — charge a tax , expect costs to be passed so no incentive to reduce emissions because cost can be recovered.
Income from tax is given away –ie wealth redistribution. No money goes to environmental issues.
Some how “dirty dairying” gets pulled into the issue of emissions –I thought their problems with dairy farming “pollution” was to do with water quality.
As mentioned above the international “carbon” price is below $5 and recently the EU had to scramble to put a floor under their price to stop their system collapsing.
Message to Norman — carbon taxes and other variants of them don’t work and are yesterdays game. Everyone else is moving on. This scam has run its coarse and the lastest is sugar taxes.
“A half rate for farmers $12.50 and an exemption for meat farming .. blah blah”
Yeah I can read too.
Why those numbers? If we must reduce carbon emissions, we should pay the world price. Anything higher is not efficient. If there are problems revealing the world price, work to do that through promoting efficient carbon markets.
If as a country we don’t want to reduce emissions we should do nothing.
If we must reduce emissions we should use an ETS with maximum international linkages.
A carbon tax with no international linkages is just another tax.
Introducing a $2,000 tax free threshold just reduces the efficiency of the income tax system.
There is nothing good about this announcement. It will do nothing for climate change. It is bad policy. It will reduce New Zealand’s prosperity.
” They say the ETS doesn’t work so need a Carbon Tax”
So identify what is wrong and fix it.
Making New Zealanders pay 5x the market price for reducing emissions is economic vandalism.
Lets try an analogy. Let’s say that the Government announced that we were all going to pay 5x the market price for medicines. Because it is “unfair” that we are paying so little for drugs. How would that go down?
Back to the carbon tax. Carbon taxes only work when they BITE. They are designed to hurt energy consumers. If they don’t, they are pointless. Who hurts the most? The poor. So this is working in exactly the opposite direction to NZ Power.
So bear with me.
NZ Power is going to fuck up the electricity market. It is justified by Labour because energy prices are too high.
The Carbon Tax will destroy the emissions market. It is justified by the Greens because energy prices are too low.
Welcome to your new energy world under a Left Government.
It looks like that American solider that Obama swapped for 5 Taliban leaders may have gone AWOL on purpose, and may even be a traitor, according to those he served with. A fellow soldier has done a large Twitter stream explaining what happened.
Some highlights below, but it’s worth reading the entire thing. He starts off with –
<—- Fuck what you I heard. I was there.
— c (@CodyFNfootball) May 31, 2014
“What [Bergdahl] was portraying to his family and what was happening in real life were polar opposites”
“[Bergdahl] did say ‘If deployment is lame, I’m going to get lost in the Mountains and make my way to China’ starting to see what we are dealing with?”
“Why would someone pack all of there [sic] belongings and send them home in the middle of a 12 month deployment? Hmmmm”
“So we now have Pre-Meditated Desertion at this point, yes?”
Teams were immediately kicked out into surrounding area to look for B. I can’t not describe the intensity
Our PLT came upon some children, they asked him have they seen an American.
The children said “yes, he was crawling on his belly through weeds and acting funny a while ago”
Congratulations Judith for your principled stand on a number of issues.
In my considered opinion, Justice Wylie will ensure that ‘justice is done and is seen to be done’ and will deliver a
shock and awe’ verdict on Thursday 5 June 2014 in the John Banks electoral fraud case, that will remind those at the highest levels of political power in NZ, that they are not a form of ‘protected species’ to which the ‘rule of law’ does not apply.
We shall see!
So far – so good.
I predicted that this case would go to trial.
(How many so-called ‘experts’ and ‘commentators’ correctly predicted that?)
I also predicted that Justice Wylie would make his verdict within 2 weeks (- it will be one week, unless there are unforeseen complications.)
There are a number of folk who seem to think that John Banks will not be convicted.
Having been to the Auckland High Court every day of this trial, and heard most of the evidence – I would say – ‘dream on’!
In my view the most compelling evidence was the 2 hour audio of the Police recorded interview with John Banks.
Neither Graham McCready nor myself expected that evidence to be produced in Court – which was – in my considered opinion, quite damning.
‘Nothing to hide – nothing to fear’?
So – why didn’t John Banks take the stand?
Oh – because Crown Solicitor Paul Dacre QC would have barbecued him under cross-examination?
This will be an historic and unprecedented Court case, in my view, and a very long time coming …..
I see the Lefty’s crying and wailing on TV tonight wanting Ultimate Fighting and Combat Sports banned…
Personally I think Combat Sports are great- Imagine D4J, Big Bruv, Redbaiter and Judith going ‘hammer and tongs’ in the ring? Last man standing etc…
*Though I should add I am strictly a Queensberry Rules man myself should anyone wish to challenge me..
the chick “our house is now complete”
the guy “it would be if there was a boat in the driveway”
the chick laughs and says “keep dreaming”.
dime @ 3:58pm . . .
I just want to check . . .
Without having heard that and going off your retelling of it – I could hear that one of a few ways. (1) Keep dreaming – as in – we’re not doing that because I don’t want to do it. But also (2) Keep dreaming because we’ll never be able to afford it or have other things to spend money on etc (3) Keep dreaming because I know that it’s a pie in the sky sort of half-hearted desire – one of those things you talk about without any serious intention. Or (4) simply on-air banter – which is more about directing how you want to come across to people listening. Communication is often less about content and more about how people come across.
Life of a weight watcher (who is way under target therefore enjoying new off-diet options). . .
Latest discovery is ‘lite coconut cream’. (WTF is the diff between coconut cream and milk ? Ingredients both say coconut milk – hmmmm).
I’m now buying tins and tins of it. Combine with dessert powder for butterscotch coconut heaven. $2.60 total. Scoop into piehole using stick sweets from dairy. 10c each. Also good with porridge. Simply irresistible. I love coconut flavour – now I can have it for a very reasonable 238kj / 100mls.
Also – looking at every nutritional label of meal simmer sauces / pasta bakes etc. Flavour flavour flavour !! Sweet apricot on special got me eating chicken again. Also good with home made potato chips (and I’m only getting better at making those – shit are they ever good). 200-300kj / 100g is completely doable. Upwards of 350kj ? – would have to give you a Big O just looking at the packaging to even consider.