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None of these spotty adolescents would have voted for National anyway…The fat German is only stealing votes from Labour and the Greens..
Hell- Even I voted for Labour when I was young and deluded at Varsity!
… and now you’re just old and deluded here – instead ? 😛
But I do agree with you – most young people wouldn’t be attracted to National – or Labour for that fact. The funny thing is, I bet half of them will get in the booth and when they can’t find KimDotcom on the voting form, they won’t know who to vote for~
Sir Cullen’s Sidekick (806 comments) says:
August 6th, 2014 at 4:40 pm
Sorry fellows – looks like John Key gone by lunch time to me……
I do think that National will be able to stitch together a government, but at such a cost, that not only will the country be the losers – but John Key will resign, maybe not immediately but he will not see the full term out. I don’t think having to compromise will be his style. He’ll move on to much greener pastures.
David Farrar has clearly officially entered middle age, he can’t remember what it was like to be young anymore. Still, he could try and use his life time membership of the Young Nacts to blarg his way into the VIP area to oogle the girls so all might not be lost.
Look, these are kids engaging in politics. That has to be good. Studies have shown that voting is a habit – and the earlier you start that habit, the more likely you are to continue. Hopefully, they’ll vote now and that will lead to them becoming adults who take an interest in the governance of our country.
From such small seed do insurrection’s grow. It’s an interesting example of how easy it is for a speaker to manipulate the ‘mob’ for his own benefit, and, given the fact that most there are both white and old enough to be working, one must wonder what the bribes and blandishments were that got them inside the venue. No doubt Minto J was looking on with interest and satisfaction; Karl Marx and Joseph Stalin would have definitely approved…
Richard John Seddon (the famous ‘King Dick’ which some may have heard of), used to use a phrase to describe his control over his audience. The phrase was ‘I played ’em like a piana’, and it would seem that the large German has somewhat-similar abilities.
BTW: Did anyone else notice the conspicuous absence of Polynesian faces amongst the audience? For such a race-based party such an absence is interesting.
National needs to fight back. Put Stephie on a stage next to Dot Com, telling them to vote for her Dad, and they’d soon change their minds about KDC. It’s populist politics – KDC is acknowledging the young votes, when National and Labour are ignoring them or acting like old farts – National needs to fight back – run a couple of gigs and get the enthusiasm going – they are, after all a significant group of voters – (but please, not JK, Whaleoil and DPF doing a trio rap – that would be too much!).
Hilarious! I don’t give this any import whatsoever – they are students at a student function for god’s sake; going with the flow, having a laugh. Has anyone here actually been to one? I went to many things like this, it isn’t even a big one. 90% of them will have parents that vote National at the very least – parents that push their kids into tertiary or have to fork out for it generally do. They might rebel a bit and cast their vote for Labour but that would be about it.
I would give ‘the kids’ more credit than ‘human excrement'; they are mostly smart, they will know the value of a dollar having to face the hard reality of student debt. They will have older brothers and sisters who have had to deal with it.
Did you see the young fellow laughing at the start? They’re just kicking out the jams and taking the piss. In the privacy of the polling booth they’ll all tick National, don’t worry DPF. F wits like Tiki Tane, they all do this, always have done and as I recall, when you’re in the audience you can’t help but feel a bit sorry for them when actually you know you’re living in a pretty sweet country.
To quote the Who, the kids are all right
The ones to really worry about are still running about in the bush in the Urewera. Now they really hate John Key
Hilarious! I don’t give this any import whatsoever – they are students at a student function for god’s sake; going with the flow, having a laugh.
You obviously aren’t taking this seriously enough, duggledog. Young people never behave the way you are suggesting, and never before have young people been attracted to anti-establishment movements. It’s a new phenomenon due to the lack of charter schools, the previous administation, and subliminal Nazism.
(and it’s election year )
This should have been about ACT and United enabling National to sell off public assets at below fair value and sell off farmland to foreigners at world market prices with no CGT applying to the profits to the sellers.
This should have been about ACT and United enabling National to sell off public assets at below fair value either above or below fair value depending on the share price and whatever our preferred narrative is at the time, while continuing the dishonest characterisation that it was a complete sale rather than 49% of each asset
I remember being at a gig with a prim young thing too many years ago and watching her behave in a similar fashion. Flushed with the excitement of her (probably) first gig and being with her (probably) first boyfriend and her (probably) first proper drinking session she went crazy and yelled similar things in a similar situation. Then joined promptly joined the Young Nats a couple of weeks later.
She’s now married (not to me!) with kids and runs a profitable business
National shouldn’t write off the youth vote, I have plenty of teenaged students who support the Nats and some will be able to vote this time, while the rest will be needed for the next election. Unfortunately it seems to me that National just assumes they won’t capture the young vote and so don’t try too hard. I went to a debate put on for the 18-30 crowd by Rotaract the other day and Maggie Barry was representing National. Surely they could have got someone like Nikki Kaye to take that one? Young people respond better to faces like theirs. The other parties all sent their younger candidates. Barry was good but she also came across condescending and openly stated National had nothing to offer youth because their policies are about what’s good for all New Zealanders. Fair enough, but the message didn’t need to be delivered so bluntly. Felt like she walked in assuming a hostile audience and didn’t want to be there. I’m in my 20s and have always voted National, it isn’t a demographic to ignore.
Re: ‘I wonder what became of all those drug-addled anti-establishment youth of the 60′s and 70′s?.
FWIW, beign ‘Boomer’s, they largely became ultra-conservative, frequently right-wing, thoroughly-domesticated, home owning, totally out of touch, traditionalist, capitalist running dogs (just like their parents BTW), who, after allowing the ‘liberal’ genie to escape from the jar their parents had kept it in, are now trying to put the lid back on what they created and impose their will on the very unappreciative and rebellious next generation/s…
Judith (7,763 comments) says:
August 6th, 2014 at 5:19 pm
National needs to fight back. Put Stephie on a stage next to Dot Com, telling them to vote for her Dad, and they’d soon change their minds about KDC.
Why the fuck should John Key’s kid be put up on stage? When has she ever shown any interest or concern for politics? You’d think people want young voters to vote based on what they think about each party’s policies, not based on what a populist personality tells them to do.
“David Farrar has clearly officially entered middle age, he can’t remember what it was like to be young anymore.”
Not so sure – perhaps he was at university in the last half of the 80’s. At that time the drunken student chant was “off with Goff!” as he was minister of education somewhere in that timeframe. That’s my recollection of all the AUSA-organised student rallys at the time.
To be honest I don’t remember that much thanks to the efforts of NORML but “off with Goff” seems to have stuck. 😀
@Pete: I gave your transcript a thumbs up… not because I support DotCrim, but a thumbs up to you for transcribing it. Thanks.
I’ve said it a few times before on this blog and I’ll repeat it. This guy DotCrim is a dangerous bastard who is making a mockery of our political process on so many levels and the sooner we can get him out of our country the better it will be for New Zealand.
“An Internet-Mana Party video clip of a frenzied crowd cheering on Kim Dotcom and chanting “f*** John Key” is a terrible look and an embarrassment to Internet Party leader Laila Harre, an expert in political marketing says.”
Looks like KDC is gonna get another telling off…..