Two more polls

September 5th, 2014 at 5:33 am by David Farrar

Fairfax and the Herald both released this morning.  One has Labour at 24.3% and the other at 23.8%. Their focus on hacked e-mails instead of policy  is backfiring.

Polls are at Curiablog.

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This is the time and size weighted average of all public polls.

Fairfax have said it all over bar the shouting. I would not be complacent. Certainly the thought of Labour governing on just 25% of the vote seems preposterous, but under MMP it can happen. The centre-right parties only have one seat margin over the minimum they need to govern.

Make sure you keep encouraging people to vote.

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69 Responses to “Two more polls”

  1. Keeping Stock (10,337 comments) says:

    But… but… but…; how can this be? Meanwhile, Labour can’t even get its flagship policies straight.

    The public will indeed Vote Positive. Unfortunately for Mr Cunliffe and his assorted bunch of MP’s and political aspirants, that means they’ll vote positively to return John Key for a third term as Prime Minister. Then the blood-letting in Labour will start all over again.

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  2. lolitasbrother (685 comments) says:

    Yes looks good. I think there will be claw back of some social conservative votes still,
    eg Me, I would vote conservative if I could afford to, but I will not take the risk. There is also the risk of both Conservative and NZF coming in under 5%
    Wow Farrar, MQ, up at 5.30 in morning

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  3. eszett (2,408 comments) says:

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  4. eszett (2,408 comments) says:

    Their focus on hacked e-mails instead of policy is backfiring

    I am sure Judith Collins wouldn’t necessarily agree with that.

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  5. EAD (1,071 comments) says:

    Wrong thread but breaking news – woman beheaded in the UK.

    Great Britain with their world reknown culture of Shakespeare, afternoon tea, cricket, evensong and ……….. beheading

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11075380/Woman-beheaded-in-north-London-garden.html

    Time to play guess the religion

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  6. Bogusnews (473 comments) says:

    Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful to see.

    It is so refreshing that NZ’ers, by an llarge are still focussing on important issues rather than the nonsense from Hager.

    For example, the fact that the death duty, which could cost NZ’ers hundreds of thousands, was until very recently swept under the carpet in favour of salacious gossip shows the msm should hang their head in shame.

    But absolutely no complacency. Make sure you get out and vote Nationalites!

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  7. Other_Andy (2,676 comments) says:

    And in the mean time the unbiased non-partisan NewZealand Hamas is campaigning for Labour’s Capital Gains Tax

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/election-2014/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503581&objectid=11319207

    The NZH is pushing all the ‘Green’ and Labour policies

    – ‘Income Equality’
    – ‘Child Poverty’
    – ‘Anti mining and fracking’
    – ‘Global Warming’
    – ‘Capital Gains Tax’
    – ‘Anti Israel’

    While trying to smear National with dirty politics.

    It is time the MSM is forced to put a promoter statement on their ‘editorials’ and editorials disguised as news.
    * Publishers and broadcasters must ensure that any election advertisement that promotes any candidate and/or party has been authorised in writing by the candidate and/or party secretary(s) before it is published/broadcast.

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  8. Milk Me (157 comments) says:

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  9. budgieboy (113 comments) says:

    Labour performance has Matt McCarten written all over it in SO many ways…his record is not all that flash isn’t?

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  10. Griff (7,683 comments) says:

    eszett (2,377 comments) says:
    September 5th, 2014 at 5:53 am
    Whoever can get the more than 50% of the seats in parliament can form a government. If Labour can do that with the help of the coalition partners, but National can’t well that’s just too bad for National the country.

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  11. David Farrar (1,894 comments) says:

    Eszett – it won’t be too bad for National, but the country. If National can’t govern without NZ First I would rather they go into opposition, wait for things to fall apart and come back in two or three years

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  12. Keeping Stock (10,337 comments) says:

    The National campaign is in turmoil and the party faithful are reluctantly waking up to the fact that their dear leader is actually a dirty lying scumbag.

    Wow; the trolls have been dragged out of bed early this morning to counter this tide of good news. I somehow don’t think the War Room will be a safe workplace today :D

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  13. MT_Tinman (3,184 comments) says:

    DPF,I can’t afford three years of over-spending mayhem.

    For mine if NZF are the “king makers” NZ should vote again.

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  14. Milk Me (157 comments) says:

    Early ferry to the mainland, Wellington is doing my head in!

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  15. eszett (2,408 comments) says:

    David Farrar (1,878 comments) says:
    September 5th, 2014 at 6:10 am
    Eszett – it won’t be too bad for National, but the country. If National can’t govern without NZ First I would rather they go into opposition, wait for things to fall apart and come back in two or three years

    That’s your opinion, David and fair enough.

    Point is, however, that there is nothing preposterous about a coalition government if that is what the voting result delivers. If more people voted for the left bloc than for the right bloc, then that’s a democratic result.

    Just because one bloc would be more fragmented than the other does not undermine it’s legitimacy.

    You may think it’s bad for the country but you would probably think that of any left wing government.

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  16. IGM (382 comments) says:

    Are taxpayers funding Hager’s protection or is this the responsibility of Labour/Greens/Slobcom? I will be pissed off if my taxes are funding safety for this pathetic little greasy weasel. He has caused more disruption to our country than his worth . . . I hope he gets what he deserves.

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  17. FeralScrote (217 comments) says:

    LoL,look at granny Herald having a sook this morn that they can`t get any dirt to stick.
    Maybe they should just stick to trying get some utu against Cameron Slater cos` he`s got better sources than them.
    The Herald your best place for yesterdays news.

    Ha, milkme, keep drinking Hagers Koolaid,you know you can`t handle the reality.

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  18. IGM (382 comments) says:

    Milk Wimp: I hope you fall overboard. Don’t expect any taxpayer funded help . . . you don’t pay any.

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  19. mcardnas (84 comments) says:

    EAD (856 comments) says:
    September 5th, 2014 at 5:57 am
    Wrong thread but breaking news – woman beheaded in the UK.

    Great Britain with their world reknown culture of Shakespeare, afternoon tea, cricket, evensong and ……….. beheading

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11075380/Woman-beheaded-in-north-London-garden.html

    Time to play guess the religion

    yes i heard that and that they said it wasn’t terrorists.
    Yeah RIGHT ! i bet she was Terrified

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  20. mcardnas (84 comments) says:

    i am underwhelmed daily by the *cough *TRUth *cough* the fairfax media and herald try to pas off to us daily .

    the ONLY poll that counts is on the 20th
    VOting to day mE!

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  21. Lindsay Addie (1,507 comments) says:

    Going by 2011 poll results both the Fairfax and Herald polls tends to inflate the National vote about 2% but this is very good result for Key and friends. DC’s ongoing fudging and flubbing of the CGT policy will outlive dirty politics in the voters minds.

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  22. gravedodger (1,566 comments) says:

    Those who contemporaneously laud MMP and decry “dirty politics” need to read more history.

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  23. KiwiGreg (3,255 comments) says:

    If Hone wins TTT it probably WILL be a hydra government.

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  24. OneTrack (3,089 comments) says:

    EAD – “Great Britain with their world reknown culture of Shakespeare, afternoon tea, cricket, evensong and ………..”

    The UK has increased their “diversity”. It’s a plus.

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  25. Mark (1,488 comments) says:

    If my very unscientific straw poll is anything to go by Cunliffes inheritance tax is going to be a significant blow to Labour. The cafe gossip amongst 12 of us has seen 3 long time labour voters in their 60’s now voting National to stop Labour “stealing” what they had worked all their lives for. Stealing being their words not mine. Labour voters down to 2 in the group.

    The degree of accuracy of course is very suspect and unreliable.

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  26. oldpark (320 comments) says:

    It was most fortunate that John Key discovered the real” dirty politics” ambush planned by Labour/Green Party’s.The sneaky backdoor attempt to gouge the unsuspecting voter out of the family home,by bringing in an Inheritance/Death tax and calling it Capital Gains Tax.Cunliffe when caught in the headlights with the other guy called Parker ,who has a previous track record of lying on company documents.Tried to spin their way out of the back door ambush as worked out with Green Party.Cunliffe the architect of the Inheritance/Death tax,then tried to say a panel of experts would work out the plan.Of course after the election,should enough voters be conned to let Labour/Green implement the tax theft of the family home.Seems to vote sight unseen on a massive tax grab ,after the election comes down to this.Anyone silly enough to vote blindly for Labour/Greens on Cunliffe CGT fiasco .Might as well give them the keys to their houses and bank account numbers.Trust Cunliffe/Parker or Norman/Turei to do the right thing by homeowners ,if elected,yeah right.Voters for peace of mind voting and a strong final day poll result.Party vote National.

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  27. Nostalgia-NZ (5,193 comments) says:

    Jettisoning Collins looks to have helped. That is was for something written as ‘hearsay’ was clever because it doesn’t open the can of worms, at least at this stage that more directly involves Key. Whether this poll may ‘confirm’ or not that the NP will get over the line the fall out to dirty politics is going to be more destructive. WO heads to the High Court this afternoon, seeking rulings about privacy – this is could be a the first of a number of interesting cases, where a person conspiring to break the privacy of others – even the law, and boast about it, seeks the protection of the Law. No doubt he’s entitled to it, but the public interest is likely to be afforded a higher protection.

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  28. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

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  30. Redbaiter (8,801 comments) says:

    “If National can’t govern without NZ First I would rather they go into opposition, wait for things to fall apart and come back in two or three years”

    I agree and maybe the fallout from that loss will provide a rejuvenated National Party that next election is able to give voters a choice other than Socialism A or Socialism B.

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  31. Keeping Stock (10,337 comments) says:

    Labour have hardly mentioned National’s dirty politics – it’s the news media that’s been quite rightfully informing people of the depths National have sunk to.

    No; they’ve hardly mentioned it eh Milt; if you search “Cunliffe dirty politics” on Google, you get a mere 261,000 hits. On the other hand, enter “Cunliffe capital gains tax” and you get a mere 111,000 hits.

    I rest my case :D

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  32. James Stephenson (2,173 comments) says:

    Great Britain with their world reknown culture of Shakespeare, afternoon tea, cricket, evensong and ……….. beheading

    To be fair, we’re quite good at it and even did it to a King once.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_were_beheaded#England

    Yes, I know, but I’m feeling pedantic this morning and couldn’t resist.

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  33. mandk (992 comments) says:

    Milk Me: “The National campaign is in turmoil and the party faithful are reluctantly waking up to the fact that their dear leader is actually a dirty lying scumbag”

    So says our correspondent from the land of the fairies.

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  34. Viking2 (11,467 comments) says:

    Busiest early morning post on here in years. Here’s me thinking you all slept in each morning.

    DPF ,looks like its an early post everyday now.

    Good result for NZ.

    Get out and vote while you and your mates still think this way.

    Interesting watching Key on the news and on the MSM. Seems everyone wants their photo taken with him. New phenomenon in NZ politics.

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  35. Gravelroad (154 comments) says:

    Eeeek! A disillusioned Milk Me is coming to the South Island?

    Might be best if you stay in Wellington where the support for Hager and his book lies.

    “Has anyone actually read the damn thing?” Ha ha, you’ve got to be kidding. We scum, feral types in the South Island don’t read.

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  36. Dead Earnest (160 comments) says:

    And Milk Me says regarding Hager’s novel, ” Has anyone here actually read the damn thing?”

    Up there with the Chinese Communists aye Milky, advocating compulsary book reading?

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  37. radvad (765 comments) says:

    Dotcom’s “bombshell” to bump National even higher. Any takers?

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  38. lazza (381 comments) says:

    “Make sure you keep encouraging people to vote”.

    Roger That!… and dissuade/demoralise all the “Others”.

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  39. Griff (7,683 comments) says:

    Nostalgia-NZ

    but the public interest is likely to be afforded a higher protection.

    In regards to KB.
    You have protection against being identified.
    One could equally argue that this is against the interest of the kb community.
    However the law(DPF) protects you without favor just as the law (DPF) protects all other anonymous commentators on here
    As the law rightly protects whale and his right to privacy .

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  40. Keeping Stock (10,337 comments) says:

    @ radvad – indeed; probably explains why Dotcom has already voted, and is encouraging people to vote before his “bombshell”. It’s certainly an odd strategy.

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  41. Ashley Schaeffer (487 comments) says:

    In this poll, the Conservatives have a higher share of the Party vote than the Maori and Mana Parties combined and yet would get no seats where Maori and Mana would get three apiece. Ridiculousness.

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  42. Odakyu-sen (642 comments) says:

    EAD

    It’ll probably turn out to be some chubby white guy with a history of psychosis (and off his meds) and a penchant for fake Japanese swords.

    Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.

    //

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  43. Grendel (1,002 comments) says:

    Stuff is also now trying to pimp the labour lady in ohariu as a ‘serious threat’ to Dunne. based entirely on the fact that they want her to be.

    she sure does have some of the nastiest unionists in wellington on her campaign, whose first release was about removing the ‘vile’ peter dunne, no discussion of policy, just straight to attacking the person. (btw, if you see anything described as vile, 9/10 its a lefty describing something they do not like but cannot come up with an objective argument against).

    Anything is possible, but with both charlie shovel and whats her name from national having moved on, and national voters understanding MMP, i cannot see dunne going anywhere. sadly i just moved 30 metres inside the mana electorate, so dont get to vote in ohariu anymore, and have to settle for voting against faafoi (not sure if i can stomach voting for parata, but there is not much choice outside of her).

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  44. Scott Chris (6,135 comments) says:

    explains why Dotcom has already voted, and is encouraging people to vote before his “bombshell”. It’s certainly an odd strategy.

    Yes, good point. Looks like the “bombshell” will be a blank.

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  45. Neil (586 comments) says:

    Only one poll counts.Keep working.
    Listened to Annette King on Morning Report who sounded a bit like a headless chook. There was a sound of desparation in her voice. What could she say ? Those people wanting selfies with the PM, that’s as good as a poll indicating National support.
    If National win(which I hope so) I believe there will surface information about the combined left campaign of dirty tricks. Cunliffe had to have that rather than policy. Labour’s policy is wrong, the people know it. Key has lifted his game.
    As Mayor Daley’s Chicago, vote early but NOT often

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  46. Redbaiter (8,801 comments) says:

    “The NZH is pushing all the ‘Green’ and Labour policies”

    Good comment Other_Andy. I reduced it and published it on twitter.

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  47. radvad (765 comments) says:

    How about Cunliffe having to ask people to take selfies with him? I even tried to feel sorry for him but luckily I failed.

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  48. kiwi in america (2,441 comments) says:

    My faith in kiwi fair-mindedness has been upheld. The media skewering of National and Key has been as relentless and it has been shameless. The obsession with Cameron Slater and his hacked emails and the subtle and not so subtle ways they have tried to pump up parties on the left and have left various of Kim Dotcom’s egregious practices unexamined is one of the most blatant examples of media bias I have ever witnessed. Most people have seen through it.

    All kudos to John Key. He lanced the Judith Collins boil and he laid a perfect trap for Cunliffe re CGT and he fell in it. Listening to his rambling explanations to Duncan Garner yesterday I knew this issue would be the death knell for Labour. Explaining is losing and when you start futzing with the bach, people’s inheritance of the family home and you kick the detail for touch with an amorphous ‘Expert Advisory Group’ I thought: these people are playing with fire and they are going to get burnt.

    Let’s hope Slater gets his injunction today and Dotcom makes such a dishonest asset disclosure that he incurs the wrath of the judge. Leila and Hone – hurry up and cash those last cheques! Like the All Blacks National must not let up and must ensure every one of its supporters gets to the polls to finally bury this unholy alliance.

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  49. Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes (16 comments) says:

    These weighted polls are a fantastic way to smooth out the rouges and get a sense of what is happeneing broadly. I have resissited commenting on all the dirty politic stuff, and have found it incredibly tedious. I dont think it will be the end of it with all the inquiries, and reviews and gnashing of teeth to come. It does strike me that the continued slide of labour maybe due to the fact that some suspect that labours hand is behind the book. As DPF has pointed out, it has been a very one-sided snap shot of what both sides do to the same or greater extent. It has been very co-incidental that the labour campagain has been “vote positive” , yet those who know how labour work, know the reason why labour is called the nasty party. Slater & co have been disgracful – no doubt, and I wont darken the door of that blog again (as an aside, I cant believe how much happier and balanced I feel by not reading his blog since this broke). The repsonse to labours past behaviour by slater & co is very much like teh Israeli reaction to palestine aggression – they kill one, we kill 20.

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  50. Max S (21 comments) says:

    On those numbers it would be in National’s interests for Peter Dunne not to be reelected. National/Act would then have 62 seats in a 122 seat Parliament.

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  51. Lance (2,654 comments) says:

    @radvad
    You will know Labour have thrown in the towel when some heavies grab some poor unsuspecting passerby for a ‘selfie’ with DC.

    It’ll be ugly.

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  52. Slipster (170 comments) says:

    @Other_Andy: It’s not just the NZH that is guilty of blatant Left bias and partisanship, most if not all MSM is like that. Just look at Yahoo news for example: Their columnist (James Robins) in a comments-closed (of course) article is wringing his hands in apparent anguish over why, oh why have the voting public largely ignored the Hager’s bucket of slime? While at at, he (kind of casual-like) tries once again to palm off allegations and outright slander as “facts”, totally ignores the real issues but lays thick his righteous indignation with the general public who doesn’t share his views and obsessive mud-slinging.

    Well, that’s the Left for you.

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  53. calendar girl (1,232 comments) says:

    Couldn’t believe David Cunliffe’s stance on Prime News last evening. After a screening of his previous, very clear, answer that “a month” was the period of time that family heirs would have to sell an inherited home in order to avoid capital gains tax, Cunliffe claimed boldly that that was just an example – the actual detail would be worked out by Labour’s expert committee. When challenged by interviewers, citing the “month” that he had advised clearly the previous day, Cunliffe became a little irritated – evident in both his words and in his facial expression – and replied with something like: ” It was an example, and that’s the way it is”.

    It’s difficult to accept anything said by a person who simply denies clear evidence that’s on the record. Why couldn’t he simply admit to a mistake, say that he got the details a bit mixed up, and set out how the matter will be resolved at the legislative drafting and Select Committee stages? That’s not the greatest political outcome after such a gaffe, but it could be better than what I recall was actually screened last evening.

    TV1 ran this story too, but saved Cunliffe from acute embarrassment by failing to screen footage of his actual statement the previous day.

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  54. Slipster (170 comments) says:

    radvad (709 comments) says:
    September 5th, 2014 at 8:17 am
    How about Cunliffe having to ask people to take selfies with him? I even tried to feel sorry for him but luckily I failed.
    ——
    How much was he paying?
    If he wasn’t too stingy he could probably find some takers in Hunters Corner or sompin’

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  55. jaba (2,141 comments) says:

    watching Cunliffe trying to explain HIS CGT is embarrassing.
    Imagine if in a few months, things REALLY turn to shit in the Middle East/Russia and Obama rings PM Cuniffe (with his co-deputies in the room) for assistance .. ummmmmmmmmmmmm

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  56. waikatogirl (409 comments) says:

    Horrified yest by Cunliffe stating that CGT policy will be written by an expert panel after the election WTF! When have parties not been upfront with their policy content before we vote for said policies

    Seemed to me that Cunliffe knows laboor is not going to win the election so why bother with details! Just make empty promises, that’ll do for the dumb public, they won’t notice

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  57. Paulus (2,626 comments) says:

    Mr Cunliffe – how long does it take to get probate in New Zealand ?
    I am advised about four to six weeks for a straightforward one.
    A house cannot be sold whilst under Probate.
    Years for more complicated cases.
    Remember “Jarndice v Jarndice” as contained in Bleak House by Charles Dickens.

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  58. trout (939 comments) says:

    The breakdown of the polls is a revelation. Labour (the working man’s party) is attracting ONLY 18% of the male vote. The party of identity politics, the man ban, and the rainbow coalition is reaping what it sows.

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  59. Fisiani (1,039 comments) says:

    Get to a polling booth today and Party Vote National

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  60. Lance (2,654 comments) says:

    So who is Waitakere man going to vote for?

    Labour = a bunch of pussies who apologize for being men and want to tax my inheritance
    Greens = anemic assholes who won’t let me use my chainsaw and will ban my V8 muscle car
    Internet Mana = Pimply faced uni geeks and Hone who hates whites… nah
    Winston First = A bunch of old farts with zimmer frames. Uncool

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  61. Keeping Stock (10,337 comments) says:

    @ Lance – not sure about Waitakere Man but Te Atatu Man, a close relation, will be voting for National List MP Alfred Ngaro who has waged a superb campaign so far. So will all his mates.

    With Phil Twyford at #7 on Labour’s list, Te Atatu has suddenly become a must-win seat for Labour on current polling. But he is up against a formidable opponent this time, not Tau Henare.

    https://www.facebook.com/AlfredNgaroForTeAtatu?fref=nf

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  62. Lance (2,654 comments) says:

    @KS
    Totally agree… my electorate :-)
    Was Paula Bennett… very good job and excellent MP

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  63. Nostalgia-NZ (5,193 comments) says:

    Glad you’re being more careful about the privacy of others griff, you have always afforded your own privacy great care but been one of the first on the bandwagon to ‘out’ others.

    The term ‘privacy’ may or may not have a place in ‘campaigns’ to disrupt or damage investigations by the SFO for example, or against Public Servants suspected by the ‘master’ to have leaked information or to attack a Judicial Officer commissioned by The Crown. It’s at an entirely different level and not without its risks. No doubt Slater will be looking for an interim order and the MSM will argue against that not being in the public interest, particularly because it relates to an election this month. Some of those arguments, if we get to hear them today, or at some later point will no doubt be on Slater’s ‘various’ positions as to whether he is a member of the media or not – one thing for sure is the MSM are. A few concise sentences on what the MSM through it’s counsel argue what the leaked material represents in terms of the public interest may be more damaging than the isolated references and refer more to a campaign going right to Cabinet. If the order is successful the opposition will say that National are looking to hide things before the election and trying to keep the public in the dark. All in all, particularly – with a close run election looming, it might have been better to leave this stuff alone. That is assuming that some individuals (not necessarily politicians) are crapping themselves and prepared to fund suppression to any limit. Anyway, best place for such things – The Courts.

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  64. Charles Finny (9 comments) says:

    David, thank you for doing this analysis. I look forward to the update after the One New poll is released this evening. As we discussed at Auckland Airport the other day there is a clear trend there for Labour (down down down). Do you agree with my analysis that has Andrew Little as the last person in on the list, if constituency seat wins go as expected, and if the vote on the day matching the current weighted average poll result? And would you also agree that, at current polling levels, the only way Maryann Street would get back is if Chris Bishop wins Hutt South? Now I know this will not go down well with some of your readership but I have considerable time for Street, Davis, and Beaumont – all of whom will miss out on election unless the polls reverse.

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  65. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    No; they’ve hardly mentioned it eh Milt; if you search “Cunliffe dirty politics” on Google, you get a mere 261,000 hits.

    That’s an odd way of measuring things. Still, why the hell not – when I Google “John Key” dirty politics, I get 323,000 hits. By your measuring system, National has been focusing on this much more than Labour has.

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  66. hj (6,991 comments) says:

    One way of (possibly) viewing this is of a football match where the opposition is useless. A liberal elite has wrested politics from the ordinary person. Maybe that’s what Josie Pagani is talking about with her “third way” (keep LPrent and co out the back washing the dishes)? I mean does the stubble on Russell Brown or Professor Paul Spoonley really fool anyone? Huh?

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  67. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Milk Me:

    Hagers book for those who insist on keeping their heads firmly embedded in the sand is hardly nonsense, as he said himself the book largely wrote itself.

    Has anyone here actually read the damn thing?

    You and Judith at last count.

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  68. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (888 comments) says:

    I think now the left wing nutters’ only hope will be Crim DotCon’s “da bomb” on September 15th. If that is something like John Key’s government passed on spying information to USA, UK and Australia, they can kiss this election good bye for good.

    I have a feeling they will come up with something atrocious even if it is completely wrong hoping John Key won’t have enough time to prove it wrong…e.g. John Key is actually a robot…. get the drift?

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  69. goldnkiwi (1,303 comments) says:

    Went to a fund raising dinner last night with Paula Bennett and Barbara Kuriger. Questions from the floor, not one mentioned ‘that book’, one referred to the state of NZ media, freedom of the one sided press that is, and others concerned matters pertinent to small town/rural NZ. About 300 attendees at $50.00 a pop, not too bad, restaurant was at capacity. Paula Bennett was very moved when speaking of the events in Ashburton, so sad that that has happened in NZ, she spoke very well of all of National’s achievements, especially the ones that the media doesn’t see fit to mention.

    If the media doesn’t mention them they still exist and they are far reaching social policies. Well done, Team Key!!!

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  70. deadrightkev (465 comments) says:

    “Eszett – it won’t be too bad for National, but the country. If National can’t govern without NZ First I would rather they go into opposition, wait for things to fall apart and come back in two or three years”

    I couldn’t agree more DPF.

    It would wipe the word reform from the NZ landscape and Peters would be so painful it would be just awful. I support Act and the Conservatives policy mix in general.

    Act has sucked a kumara courtesy of their board and brainless campaign strategy so we are lucky to have Colin Craig picking up momentum on the right. It will take a monumental effort plus luck to get Jamie Whyte into parliament.

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