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April 13, 2005 9:17am by David Farrar

Peition against cricket tour of Zimbabwe

Someone has set up a petition to encourage the Black Caps not to tour the despostic nation of Zimbabwe.

I’ve signed.

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sector 7G

“Lets help Zimbabwe and sign a petition”…..What a bunch of backpatters!
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April 13, 2005 11:14am
TomV

So what do you suggest Mr sector? Pre emptive nuclear strike? A bunch of flowers?
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April 13, 2005 11:51am
Kimble

Fletch, you sad git.
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April 13, 2005 11:56am
Silas

Unfortunately the long term solution for Zimbabwe is the end of Mugabe. Either by natural causes or cause and effect (lead).

Signing cricket petitions is not going to change a thing. UN action on Zimbabwe is also pathetic. They should have their seat at the assembly suspended, with no voting at the very least.
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April 13, 2005 1:34pm
TheProphet

Ah I thought the petition was to the Black Caps.So signing the petition may change something if a Black Cap decides not to go because of the petition.
Mr sector – sorry your entire comment can’t have come up as the solution to the problem that you dis doesn’t seem to be there. pat pat pat pat

Allah protect us
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April 13, 2005 2:25pm
sector 7G

What do you think Mugabe will do if a bunch of cricketers decide not to turn up??????????? I guess you hope he will resign? Which probably will happen………………………………
It will be a massive blow to him……………………………….
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April 13, 2005 5:02pm
TheProphet

Sector – Its a petition to OUR cricketers.I don’t think it will make the slightest difference to Mugabe. It may however force the ICC to reconsider their position in regard to Zimbabwe. When Zimbabwe’s own cricketers are engaging in disobedience that may tell even you something.
Oh and get a new keyboard your ‘?’ and ‘.’ keys seem to be sticking.

Allah protect us.
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April 13, 2005 7:57pm
sector 7G

So is it a petition to our cricketers or to the ICC? I take it has nothing to do with helping Zimbabwe then………..?????…..?????…????
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April 13, 2005 8:54pm
KImble

Fletch, consider it a petition urging our fellow country men to NOT support Mugabe in any way. There, now you can fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck oooooooooooooooooooff.
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April 13, 2005 9:57pm
sector 7G

Kimble…….Even if i did consider it that way it’s still just backpatting!
What good will come out of it?
No cricket to be played against Zimbabwe is a death sentence to the sport in their country!
Is that what you want?
And no i wont go away, sorry!
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April 13, 2005 10:12pm
Kimble

“death sentence to the sport ”

Apt choice of words.
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April 14, 2005 9:06am
sector 7G

Thanks for you input Kimble…..
Still havent got a reply of what you think this will actually do Kimble……
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April 14, 2005 10:57am
Lin Nah

Who gets the US$2m fine? Just the ICC or does some (or all) of it go to Zimbabwe? It won’t mean much if the tour was cancelled and the fine all goes to Zimbabwe. Unless the money goes to the poor in Zimbabwe.
Anyway I assume that those ppl signing the petition won’t mind chipping in a few $ towards the fine. While I am against the tour, I don’t think I or anyone should sign the petition or put pressure agains the tour without being willing to financially contribute to any costs related with cancelling the tour. Just my 2wickets worth lin
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April 14, 2005 9:39pm
Alistair

It was me who started the petition. You are right, Mugabe would no resign because the Black Caps don’t go, but by going, we are turning a blind eye to what he’s doing and has done to the country. He is the patron of Zimbabwean cricket, so who do you think is going to get LOTS of money from the tour, including money from TV rights, etc… Yes, Mugabe and his government. The petition is to stop the Black-Caps from going, thereby stopping them from condoning Mugabe’s actions.
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April 14, 2005 11:32pm
sector 7G

The players in the team will also get some money,who needs it more Mugabe or the players who dont even have their own sets of pads?
They are there to play cricket.They are sportsmen!
Are you saying Alistair that by going to Zimbabwe they are supportive of Mugabe’s actions? Maybe you should ask them how they feel about Mugabe and ask them what they believe they are going to play cricket for….politics or to play the sport they love against another bunch of cricketers who are in the unfortunate position of living under Mugabe?
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April 15, 2005 12:28am
Alistair

Well, how many Zim cricket players do not even live in Zimbabwe anymore, including black players like Olanga, because they spoke out against Mugabe. They have been banned from playing cricket for Zim, and no longer live in the country for fear of their lives. My view is, by going there, we are ignoring what’s going on in the country. Ordinarily I would never mix sports and politics, but he is the patron of Zim Cricket, so like it or not, it is mixed in this case. Mugabe and his government will benefit from this tour (yes, the cricket players too), but I think the world needs to stand up and say “what’s going on there is unacceptable, and we will have nothing to do with you until you change your ways”.
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April 15, 2005 7:21am
Kimble

Fletch, I dont expect it to DO anything. I dont sign petitions to achieve any specific goal, it is simply telling someone what I reckon.

But I suppose if anything if enough people (NZers) sign it NZ cricket might think that going to Zimbabwe would be a PR disaster and would alienate a big chunk of their audience. Signing the petition is like telling NZ Cricket what you think on the subject. I dont think it will change terribly much but then again it didnt cost me anything.

If your objection is that simply expressing our opinion is useless as it wont lead to the over throw of Mugabe, then I have to ask you , what is the point of you expressing your opinion on anything, unless it is going to markedly affect things? Wouldnt that be a waste of time too? Do you feel smug and self congratulatory for doing it?
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April 15, 2005 9:23am
sector 7G

Kimble-You are not just expressing your opinion. You are trying to cancel a sports teams tour of Zimbabwe, is that not the aim of this?
Why dont you leave it up to the cricket players to decide, rather than put pressure on them to do what “you” believe is the right thing to do! Do you really believe that they are unaware of what is going on in Zimbabwe?

And Kimble “Do i feel smug”……Not as much as you do. If you think that calling me Fletch is some sort of intimidating tactic it just shows how pathetic you really are!
Have a nice day!
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April 15, 2005 1:05pm
Kimble

Fletcher IS your name isnt it? How could you be intimidated by this? Anyway…

I AM just expressing my opinion, Fletcher, my opinion is that the Black Caps shouldnt tour Zimbabwe. Again, your objection appears to be with anyone expressing an opinion about anything. Seriously, what is with that?

Why dont you leave it up to the potential petition signers [cricket players] to decide, rather than put pressure on them to do what “you” believe is the right thing to not do!

I do think that some players know what is going on in Zimbabwe, but the thing is, if it is left up to the individual players to decide whether or not to go some will say “No, I dont want to be used for propoganda purposes by a tyrant so I will not go.”

Then NZC will say, “We respect your decision and it will not affect your selection for the national team in the future.” And then move onto the next teir of players.

Eventually, you will get to some players who will look at the money and the status of having represented their country in Cricket and figure that that outweighs their moral convictions. So a second or third rate Black Caps team WILL end up touring and the outcome would be the same as if the first team went. But there would be the extra possibility that Zimbabwe wins the test match and you just know the Patron of Cricket in Zimmers would use that for all its worth.
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April 15, 2005 2:12pm
sector 7G

That is my name Kimble and i dont feel intimidated at all!
The fact is that i have posted on here plenty of times, yet the only time you went to the trouble of looking at my email address was when i said something you didn’t like,remember “Fletch you sad git”?
If it is just your opinion why do you need to put it in writing?
Ohh…… dont worry you answered it in the last 3 paragraphs of your previous rant!
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