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January 10, 2008 10:35am by David Farrar

Iraq is doomed!

They’ve sent in the anthropologists!

Actually, being serious, it looks a very sensible initiative.

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Tina

Maybe my memory isn’t correct on this …I thought you had basically conceded you were an idiot and therefore thought it was a commonly held belief.

Maybe that was the phil guy…..
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January 11, 2008 1:56pm
roger nome

Yawn ….
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January 11, 2008 1:57pm
Tina

Indeed.
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January 11, 2008 2:10pm
Redbaiter

“By Baiter’s and Tina’s logic every country in the world that has the misfortune to have a dictator holding the reigns of power should be invadad and occupied,”

Dumbfuck.
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January 11, 2008 2:15pm
Andrew W

This may surprise you Tina, but most Iraqis didn’t like Saddam and were happy to see him go, and; there was no El Quada in Iraq when the war ended.
Bush and Co had a huge opportunity at the end of the war that they pissed away trying to milk every advantage they could for themselves and America rather than pushing ahead with what was best for Iraq. You can argue that since America paid for Saddams downfall they were entitled to first dibs on the oil if you want, but otherwise stop talking BS, it’s boring.
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January 11, 2008 2:15pm
Redbaiter

“there was no El Quada in Iraq when the war ended.”

A lie.
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January 11, 2008 2:16pm
Tina

More good news Andy….don’t tell the left, it only upsets them.

9 out of 18….not bad considering where they’ve come from.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8U3B17O0&show_article=1
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January 11, 2008 2:16pm
Redbaiter

BTW dumbarse, there’s no U after Q.
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January 11, 2008 2:17pm
Tina

From the link….

“Anbar province, once considered a stronghold of al-Qaida, has been reclaimed for the Iraqi people,” Gates said.”

Good job.
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January 11, 2008 2:19pm
roger nome

““By Baiter’s and Tina’s logic every country in the world that has the misfortune to have a dictator holding the reigns of power should be invadad and occupied,”

Dumbfuck.”

Current Demerits:

Redbaiter – 35 (15/10/07) and 20 (24/10/07) and 20 (29/10/07) = 75 total

20 points – abusive language
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January 11, 2008 2:20pm
Andrew W

Tina, that link proves or disproves what?

Yeh, I’m lousy at spelling.
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January 11, 2008 2:22pm
Tina

Well Roggy…….truth may be a defence here.

You are “Dumb” and also a useless “fucker”…..so you can hardly expect the obvious connection not to be used as shorthand.
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January 11, 2008 2:24pm
Redbaiter

Whaddya expect for chrissakes? People to respond seriously to such dipshit logic??? Find somewhere else to play infant.
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January 11, 2008 2:25pm
roger nome

The point was Baiter, that if you’re going to wage an illegal war based on fabricated intelligence, it should be obvious that the outcome of it will be much better than the pre-invasion situation. In 1994 Dick Cheyney thought that impossible, so an occupation was decided against. I have to say I agree with him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i-mksZODSs
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January 11, 2008 2:26pm
Redbaiter

For fuck’s sake. I don’t ever click on your links Gnome. Why the fuck would anyone??
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January 11, 2008 2:27pm
Tina

It indicates that Iraq is progressing despite the horror at this prospect of the US hating left.
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January 11, 2008 2:27pm
Andrew W

Yes it is progressing – it has been for about a year now, Gen. Petraeus was appointed last January, before then the occupation was mismanaged and the situation was steadily deteriorating.
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January 11, 2008 2:31pm
Redbaiter

before then the occupation was mismanaged and the situation was steadily deteriorating.

Yawn- what pointless drivel. still, its all about egg on face really isn’t it Andy Pandy. Teach you to be sucked in by mainstreammedia drivel won’t it? You fall for this kind of propaganda far too often. A smart boy cool enuff to attract a bimbo 20 years younger would wisen up.
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January 11, 2008 2:33pm
roger nome

Still no arguments from RB or Tina, only hysterical abuse. Too easy.
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January 11, 2008 2:34pm
Redbaiter

“Still no arguments from RB or Tina”

Hahah. Thanks for the laff mungbean- as opposed to what- this kind of fantasy based drivel? ” wage an illegal war based on fabricated intelligence” Whose got time or inclination to deal seriously with such dick wacking crap, really???
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January 11, 2008 2:36pm
Andrew W

Red creates his own reality.
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January 11, 2008 2:37pm
roger nome

So now a little apparent progress is being made, after 5 years of pointless blood bath, predicated on lies? Horay! What an inspiring victory. You people really are thick as pig shit aren’t you.
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January 11, 2008 2:38pm
Redbaiter

Talking of reality, hows the silvercheck going??
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January 11, 2008 2:38pm
Redbaiter

“You people really are thick as pig shit aren’t you.”

Even if we were, you’d still have a lot of catching up to do lamer.
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January 11, 2008 2:40pm
Redbaiter

“predicated on lies”

a claim which you’ve never been able to supprt with even one authentic example.
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January 11, 2008 2:46pm
roger nome

“such dick wacking crap, really???”

So that’s what “inconvenient truths” are called in Bleater’s personally crafted reality. Tell me bleater … having any luck finding those elusive reds that you’re so sure lurk under your bed?
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January 11, 2008 2:49pm
roger nome

George Bush said that he was sure that Iraq/Saddam possessed WMDs beyond any reasonable doubt. He was wrong, therefore someone along the line was lying about the certainty of the evidence. Whether or not Bush lied is difficult to prove, though in any case the invasion was predicated upon a lies.
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January 11, 2008 2:54pm
Redbaiter

“the invasion was predicated upon a lies.”

So you keep saying, but are only capable of weak excuses for never being able to provide even one example.
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January 11, 2008 2:55pm
Tina

That’s great that you’re acknowledging much progress Andy….now it’s time to

You must be aware that extra troops is what has caused the insurgents to collapse not a Marshall plan.
And collapse it seems to be.

Petraeus would not be winning without the extra numbers.

Search and destroy is now the main mantra, not fortify a town and patrol.
The Sunnis are finally being forced to consider their enlightened self interest.

Bad luck for the left, the quagmire is rapidly being paved.
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January 11, 2008 2:58pm
Tina

….”time to advance to 2008″.
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January 11, 2008 2:59pm
roger nome

In financial terms the invasion and subsequent occupation will end up costing the US about $1 trillion, and 5,000 dead soldiers (and that’s not all the armed “security” personel that have been acting as defacto soldiers).

The cost for the Iraqi economy runs into the hundreds of billions, and at the very least 150,000 dead civilians. And all to “get rid of saddam” (which in itself really means nothing if you don’t improve the condition of the country – which hasn’t happened). And now there’s been a little “apparent progress” so now it’s suddenly all worth it? Not even close.

[DPF: I thought the left said it was all about cheap oil. Sounds like the most expensive way ever devised to get oil]
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January 11, 2008 3:09pm
Tina

Remeber what you are Roggy…….
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January 11, 2008 3:11pm
Tina

Also “Remember”
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January 11, 2008 3:11pm
roger nome

So it’s still “you’re and idiot”. I’m starting to think that I hurt your feelings somewhere along the line Tina. Was when I made you look silly through demolishing all of your attempts at an argument on a previous “Iraq” thread? You really need to get over that you know. At the moment you’re just looking like a petulent little child.
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January 11, 2008 3:17pm
Tina

Perk up Roggy….Iraq’s going great.
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January 11, 2008 3:23pm
radar

It is clear that a lot of the people who have commented on this post are opposed to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. I cannot read minds but it seems that the reason for their opposition is largely due to the unnecessary deaths that have occured in that country, both from the invasion itself and the sectarian violence that broke out post-invasion.

Then I read comments from Redbaiter, which beside from being quite angry and also incoherent, are filled with rantings about the evils of the mainstream media, and how every organisation that is not borne out of the Bush Whitehouse is incorrect, a communist, or just plain stupid.

It would be great, Redbaiter, if you could tell us a) why you supported, and continue to support, the invasion of Iraq; and b) how you defend the obviously terrible job that the people who engineered this war did.

It is clear, and has been for some time, that not enough troops were sent in, that they should have stopped the looting immediately, that they ignored screeds of professional advice, and that the whole operation was something of a carnival of the absurd.

When people post legitimate criticism about the invasion itself, or how it was carried out, it would benefit people like Redbaiter to calmly tell us how we are all wrong, without resorting to paranoid rantings that make him appear uninged and divorced from reality.
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January 11, 2008 3:40pm
roger nome

“[DPF: I thought the left said it was all about cheap oil. Sounds like the most expensive way ever devised to get oil]”

I’ve written on this previously on kiwiblog DPF – unfortunately I can’t find the quote.

I will say however that the Iraq war was probably at least in part motivated by the US’s worries about the global energy situation in the coming 20 years or so. The international energy agency is predicting a flattening off of non-opec oil production post 2010 – so any increases in production that happen after that date will have to come to dictators, which puts them in an extremely powerful position.

These dictators want to ramp the price of oil up so they’re getting the most from their resource base that they can. This means restricting supply. The US of course doesn’t want this, so Iraq can be seen as “example” to the rest of them. If they don’t keep the spigot open they can expect the same. There’s also the fact that Iraq has the second largest undeveloped conventional oil reserves in the world, so are integral to any increase in global production going into the future. Essentially the US wants to avoid a repeat of the 1970s and 1980s oil shocks – (OPEC was in a similarly powerful position, as non-OPEC oil resources were under developed and not capable of immediate increases in output, and they exploited this situation through restricting supply). A repeat of the global recession that resulted from the last round of oil shocks would be of far greater cost than $1 trillion, the war could still turn out to be economically rational for the US economy as a whole (let alone for the oil giants that are so closely associated to the Bush administration).

So while I’m not say that this is “the” reason for the Iraq war, it seems likely that it figured in the Bush administration’s considerations going into the war. Particularly given that Cheney’s think tank, “a project for a new American century” published a report between 1999 and 2001 which made security of oil supply a top concern for US foreign policy going into the 21st century.
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January 11, 2008 3:52pm
Redbaiter

“It would be great, Redbaiter, if you could tell us”

Us??? Sure, now could you just tell me how many of you there are there, and what authority you have to speak for those others, and once we have that out of the way, I’m ready to deal with your many assertions and questions.
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January 11, 2008 3:54pm
Redbaiter

You want the Chicom generals to have all the oil right roggy??
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January 11, 2008 3:55pm
Ryan Sproull

Redbaiter,

Will you stop dodging the question if I say I’d like to hear your answers to Radar’s questions too?
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January 11, 2008 3:58pm
Redbaiter

“Will you stop dodging the question if I say I’d like to hear your answers to Radar’s questions too?”

Its not dodging the question. He/ she is using the plural pronoun us. I want to know who I ‘m responding to.
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January 11, 2008 4:00pm
roger nome

Here we are….

15 September 2002: A SECRET blueprint for US global domination reveals that President Bush and his cabinet were planning a premeditated attack on Iraq to secure ‘regime change’ even before he took power in January 2001.
The blueprint, uncovered by the Sunday Herald, for the creation of a ‘global Pax Americana’ was drawn up for Dick Cheney (now vice- president), Donald Rumsfeld (defence secretary), Paul Wolfowitz (Rumsfeld’s deputy), George W Bush’s younger brother Jeb and Lewis Libby (Cheney’s chief of staff). The document, entitled Rebuilding America’s Defences: Strategies, Forces And Resources For A New Century, was written in September 2000 by the neo-conservative think-tank Project for the New American Century (PNAC).

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1221.htm
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January 11, 2008 4:02pm
roger nome

This also from the above report:

The plan shows Bush’s cabinet intended to take military control of the Gulf region whether or not Saddam Hussein was in power. It says: ‘The United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein.’
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January 11, 2008 4:04pm
Ryan Sproull

Its not dodging the question. He/ she is using the plural pronoun us. I want to know who I ‘m responding to.

Him, and The Audience, I suppose.
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January 11, 2008 4:06pm
BeShakey

Redbaiter – I assume he was referring to the readers of the thread, He may have been wrong to assume that more than one person would read something you wrote, but its tough to blame him for that. I’d be interested in hearing your answers, I think the war is a bad thing, but maybe your insights will change my mind.
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January 11, 2008 4:07pm
Redbaiter

“The Audience”

What audience? and when did said audience (if it exists) delegate the expression of their views and opinions to radar?
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January 11, 2008 4:08pm
BeShakey

Hear that sound, its Redbaiters credibility getting up and leaving.

Redbaiter – People who read this blog are an audience for the comments. There was never any suggestion that radar had been delegated the right to express their views, his comment merely suggested that someone other than him/her may read your post.
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January 11, 2008 4:11pm
Redbaiter

“I assume he was referring to the readers of the thread”

Whoever the readers of the thread may be, there is not one here from left right or center who have agreed to let their views and ideas be expressed by another poster, and I doubt there’s even one here who fully agrees with the words of radar anyway.

Damn brain damaged collectivists come on here speaking in the plural like the fucken robots they are. They need to realise that on blogs, they write for themselves and nobody else. They need to recognise that the opinions they express are their own, and that there’s no big cheering crowd of like minded collectivist numbskulls as they would like to imagine. Speak for yourselves for Chrissake. What the fuck is so hard about that???

Are you really that brainwashed you cannot stop from thinking of yourself as a collective?? Maybe you should give up being a human and live as an ant, or a white bait, or more likely, a lemming.
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January 11, 2008 4:16pm
Redbaiter

“Redbaiters credibility ”

IMHO, a valueless item as far as delusional and irrational leftists go anyway.
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January 11, 2008 4:18pm
BeShakey

Do you have it in you to answer those questions red? If so, I (note the singular) would be interested to hear them.
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January 11, 2008 4:18pm
Ryan Sproull

Radar,

Your question has been answered, Logan-5.
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January 11, 2008 4:18pm
roger nome

“You want the Chicom generals to have all the oil right roggy??”

It is an interesting question Baiter. What’s worse, the invasion and subsequent occupation in Iraq, or the prospect of the OPEC dictators using their monopoly over large, un-tapped oil reserves to screw with the global economy?

Now that’s a debate that I think is worth having. It certainly beats a debate about whether it was worth it because it may have facilitated Iraq becoming a viable independent democracy in the future. Either a fundamentalist Islamic state will be voted in after the US leave, or their will be a dictatorship that the US likes (i.e. Musharaff in Pakastan).
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January 11, 2008 4:21pm
Spoff

Scott Ritter’s predictions have proven to be accurate in the past. Here is his take on the surge:

http://www.alternet.org/election08/72214
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January 11, 2008 4:21pm
Psycho Milt

Its not dodging the question. He/ she is using the plural pronoun us. I want to know who I ‘m responding to.

Redbaiter is very fond of this diversionary tactic. Disclaimer: “diversionary tactic” is an assertion on my part, based on my personal disbelief that he’s incapable of grasping that his comments are read by a large number of people, not simply the long-suffering blogger he happens to be insulting at the time. It is not intended to be taken as an “argument.”
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January 11, 2008 4:32pm
radar

“Damn brain damaged collectivists come on here speaking in the plural like the fucken robots they are.”

Well that pretty much sums up everything I wrote about Redbaiter.

You seem to be avoiding the questions, Redbaiter, and I am assuming it is because you are more comfortable engaging in false bravado that actual debate. That is what I assumed would be the case.

To answer your pedantic question, by “us” I was referring to the people who have commented on this thread who are opposed to the war in Iraq. I don’t believe I speak for everyone who holds that position, but this is a blog, not a university essay. I hope you will forgive me.

Now that I have answered that for you I expect an answer to my questions, but based on your past immature performances I shan’t be holding my breath.
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January 11, 2008 4:32pm
BeShakey

Given that its been nearly quarter of an hour since Redbaiter was asked it in a very straightforward and uncontroversial way, and he still hasn’t answered, I think we can assume he has self-combusted in a fiery ball of right wing rage.
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January 11, 2008 4:37pm
PhilBest

This argument about “leaving Saddam in power to avoid 100,000 deaths”, (or 200,000 deaths, or whatever) is deeply flawed. What we simply are not entitled to assume, is how many people would have continued to die under Saddam’s rule had he BEEN left in power, and for HOW LONG, and whether he would have done another invasion of Iran or Kuwait or wherever.

Anyone that argues that Saddam should have been left in power is warped in the head.
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January 11, 2008 4:39pm
radar

“Anyone that argues that Saddam should have been left in power is warped in the head.”

Or smart, as it turns out. It was completely reasonable not to trust the disaster that has been the Bush administration to do anything in a competent fashion. Based on what has transpired in Iraq since 2003, leaving Saddam in power was a completely reasonable position.
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January 11, 2008 4:45pm
roger nome

“Anyone that argues that Saddam should have been left in power is warped in the head.”

So you would be for a military invasion of Zimbabwe then PhilBest? Or for that matter, a few dozen other murderous dictatorial regimes? Regardless of how many people die, whether it’s actually likely to improve the situation, its legality under international law, the dangerous precedent that it sets etc….. who cares right? At least a bad guy “gets what he deserves”?
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January 11, 2008 4:47pm
Redbaiter

I think we can assume

We? Sigh… fucken hopeless..

“Redbaiter is very fond of ”

Oh, look whose turned up- Psycho Singaporean Censor Milt…
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January 11, 2008 4:48pm
Redbaiter

“Scott Ritter’s predictions have proven to be accurate in the past.”

Not when he predicted he would be shafting some 14 year old girl.

http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-news/826568/posts
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January 11, 2008 4:50pm
roger nome

Still stuck on one minor and largely irrelevant semantic point that has already been addressed hey baiter? Yep, looks like a diversionary tactic to me. Unable to answer the real questions hey bro?
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January 11, 2008 4:51pm
Peak Oil Conspiracy

Phillip John/Roger Nome:

“[DPF: I thought the left said it was all about cheap oil. Sounds like the most expensive way ever devised to get oil]”

I’ve written on this previously on kiwiblog DPF – unfortunately I can’t find the quote.

Surprise? That Kiwiblog engine isn’t perfect, you know.
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January 11, 2008 4:54pm
roger nome

Hey POC, haven’t seen you for a while. BTW that thread is probably about a year old. On the other if I had written it “just a few days ago” I don’t doubt that I could find it in a matter of minutes.
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January 11, 2008 4:56pm
Redbaiter

“Based on what has transpired in Iraq since 2003, leaving Saddam in power was a completely reasonable position.”

..and you guys really expect me to waste my time responding to this kind of irrational zealot??? You anti Iraq anti America soviet propaganda loons are just so last century…
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January 11, 2008 4:56pm
Redbaiter

who’s turned up…
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January 11, 2008 4:57pm
roger nome

Don’t address any of the arguments will you baiter?
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January 11, 2008 4:59pm
Peak Oil Conspiracy

Still on holiday, Phillip John/Roger Nome, so not following the threads too closely. The point remains (with no disrespect to DPF intended): Kiwiblog’s search engine isn’t perfect. I’ve discovered this many times over.
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January 11, 2008 5:00pm
roger nome

POC – Use google then. Very good for finding fresh quotes that are “just a few days” old.
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January 11, 2008 5:02pm
Peak Oil Conspiracy

Never mind, Phillip John/Roger Nome, I wouldn’t expect you to concede the point.
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January 11, 2008 5:03pm
BeShakey

Aaah, I was wrong, Redbaiter was just waiting till there was another diversion for him to use to avoid stating his arguments.
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January 11, 2008 5:04pm
roger nome

“I wouldn’t expect you to concede the point.”

The point is conceded POC – but I duly note that it’s a largely irrelevant one.
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January 11, 2008 5:06pm
PhilBest

Here’s some of the LATEST about “the Lancet” Iraqi deaths “study”.

http://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/databomb/index.htm

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119984087808076475.html
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January 11, 2008 5:09pm
Redbaiter

“Don’t address any of the arguments will you baiter?”

Don’t supply that lie will you Roggy?
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January 11, 2008 5:14pm
PhilBest

Roger Nome says:

“So you would be for a military invasion of Zimbabwe then PhilBest? Or for that matter, a few dozen other murderous dictatorial regimes? Regardless of how many people die, whether it’s actually likely to improve the situation, its legality under international law, the dangerous precedent that it sets etc….. who cares right? At least a bad guy “gets what he deserves”?”

Any other examples you can offer to compare with a Dictator who has Oil wealth, who has invaded two neighbouring countries, killing more than a million people, and who routinely kills thousands of his own people annually and six figures on special occasions, used chemical weapons on his own people, and spent more than ten years playing “chicken” with UN weapons inspectors? Sorry, Mugabe doesn’t quite measure up.

The fairer comparison for Saddam, is Adolf Hitler, in terms of likely deaths were he left in power vs. deaths resulting from a war confronting him. So we should have left Hitler alone, woger nono, because war is awful and people ger killed?
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January 11, 2008 5:16pm
Redbaiter

“At least a bad guy “gets what he deserves”?”

You unbelievably dumb dumbarse…
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January 11, 2008 5:16pm
roger nome

PhilBest – who really cares? It’s at least 150,000 and probably closer to 200,000. If NZ that proportion of NZ was killed it would be like losing a whole city the size of Palmerston North. Nothing to sniff at.
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January 11, 2008 5:16pm
Spoff

WTF unsubstantiated allegations posted by some blogger have to do with Ritter’s credibility escapes me. Unless of course you are trying to paint him as a republican. No, that can’t be right, it’s male interns they seem to prefer.

Don’t worry about addressing my posts Mastredbaiter. I’ll let you know when I’m drunk enough to engage you.
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January 11, 2008 5:22pm
dad4justice

“who really cares?”

typical gutter comment from the thickest dickwack on the net . Phillip John Mason is a disgrace to himself . How much does Queen Helengrad pay you to talk utter shit here all dam day – Uncle Gnomer pile codwapple dog turd ?
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January 11, 2008 5:23pm
dad4justice

Sonic spoofed again .
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January 11, 2008 5:23pm
Redbaiter

“You seem to be avoiding the questions, Redbaiter, and I am assuming it is because you are more comfortable engaging in false bravado that actual debate.”

Make any assumption you want, but if you honestly believe that those two questions you asked are hard to answer, its a pointer to why you think the way you do. You have just never taken the time or effort to study any possible alternative views to the one you prefer. Rather than approach the Iraqi war from an objective and rational viewpoint, you’ve come from the partisan leftist angle and have obviously never spent one nanosecond studying the alternative.

Its why you think the way you do and its also why you speak of yourself in the plural. You are completley devoid of the ability to think and act act independent of the crowd.

Leftists always only know one side of the argument. Rightists know both sides and have taken an objective decison as to what is right or wrong. This is one of the essential differences between the mindsets of left and right, and it is put on display time and time again on this blog by leftists who write here and persistently show their complete ignorance of the other side of any argument.
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January 11, 2008 5:25pm
Ryan Sproull

Philbest,

From one of your links:

“Three weeks before the 2006 elections, the British medical journal Lancet published a bombshell report estimating that casualties in Iraq had exceeded 650,000 since the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003. We know that number was wildly exaggerated. The news is that now we know why.”

Fuck, that’s impressive journalism, isn’t it? “We know our opinion. The news is, we now have some arguments to support it, rather than our previous posision of just believing it for no good reason.”
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January 11, 2008 5:30pm
Redbaiter

“WTF unsubstantiated allegations posted by some blogger have to do with Ritter’s credibility escapes me.”

Unsubstantiated…?? Haha, you’re objective on the Iraq issue alright..

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30587
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January 11, 2008 5:33pm
dad4justice

Lefties can’t debate – give me the floor Captain, as I want wipe the floor with the cowardly insipid leftist comrade bastards and bitches . Doom them, otherwise we doomed says my good friend Frazer .Rear rank steady Sir .

gnomer put your head up spoffter and out will pop a backstabbing nutbar called sonic . Man what weirdos and gutless wonders you freaks are .
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January 11, 2008 5:33pm
Andrew W

“Leftists always only know one side of the argument. Rightists know both sides and have taken an objective decison as to what is right or wrong.”

See, Red really does create his own reality! Both left and right can be blinkered by their ideology, you’re an exteme example Red.
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January 11, 2008 5:35pm
dad4justice

Ryan not annoying Ian Wishart and co… today ? you four eyed git .
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January 11, 2008 5:36pm
dad4justice

Oh yes how could I forget timid Andrew WWWW , keep your powder dry you softy creep. What a yellow coward . Nappies still wet ?
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January 11, 2008 5:38pm
Ryan Sproull

D4J,

lol.
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January 11, 2008 5:38pm
Andrew W

Have you worked out that you’re a joke yet D4J?
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January 11, 2008 5:40pm
Redbaiter

“See”

Nope. Can’t see it. How’s the silvercheck goin’?
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January 11, 2008 5:43pm
dad4justice

“Have you worked out that you’re a joke yet D4J?”

Oh didims Andrew what a nasty comment and I might cry . God you insipid hand wringing liberal creeps give me the shits . Look you mad lefty tit grubbers, war is war and Putin likes playing chess and oil wells. We are doomed I say . Shut up Frazer . What a timid sick joke you are .
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January 11, 2008 5:48pm
Ryan Sproull

Dad,

What do you mean by “four eyed git?
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January 11, 2008 5:50pm
dad4justice

Shut up Ryan . Go stuck your thumb you stupid boy .
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January 11, 2008 5:52pm
Ryan Sproull

Dad,

When you called me “four eyed”, what did you mean?
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January 11, 2008 5:56pm
Redbaiter

Might have a drink tonite- celebrate 6 years of Guantanamo.
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January 11, 2008 6:09pm
dad4justice

Amen to that red . Dam softcocks give me the shits .
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January 11, 2008 6:13pm
Ryan Sproull

Dad4Justice,

What did you mean when you called me a “four eyed git”?
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January 11, 2008 6:14pm
dad4justice

Shut up ryan – you nitwit troll.
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January 11, 2008 6:18pm
Ryan Sproull

Dad4Justice,

Are you able to answer the simple question? Yes or no.
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January 11, 2008 6:19pm
dad4justice

Look you wacko creep you should get outside for some fresh air. You are a troll at Ian Wisharts site 24/7 and the fucking huge amount of time you silly idiot spend on the net is unbelievable . Go outside and get some fresh air you demented fool who must have more than 2 eyes . You are pathetic . Every thread at the tbr and still you continue here with silly crap . I got it wrong as the amount of time a twisted nut bar like yourself spends tapping keys is beyond words .You must have 6 fucking eyes and 9 fingers on your web .
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